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Speaker 1: Hi, Get everybody. I'm Dan Horden. Thanks for downloading The
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Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. The I've Got My Spine, I've Got
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Speaker 1: My Orange Crush addition, as the Bengals get set to
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Speaker 1: open in Orange as they face Jacksonville in the first
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Speaker 1: home game of the year. Coming up, I'll go one
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Speaker 1: on one with Trey Hendrickson and also chat with his
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Speaker 1: friend and former teammates Sam Hubbard this week's Ruler of
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Speaker 1: the Jungle. Then, in our No The Faux segment, we'll
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Speaker 1: since the anniversary of a broadcasting masterpiece. Tuesday marked the
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Speaker 1: sixtieth anniversary of what I consider to be the greatest
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Speaker 1: work by a sports broadcaster of all time. It was
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Speaker 1: Vin Scully's radio broadcast of a Sandy Kofax perfect game.
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Speaker 2: Three times in his sensational career, as Sandy Kofax walked
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Speaker 2: out to the mound to pitch a fateful ninth where
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Speaker 2: he turned in a no hitter. But tonight September ninth,
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Speaker 2: nineteen hundred and sixty five, he made the toughest walk
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Speaker 2: of his career. I'm sure, because through eight innings he
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Speaker 2: has pitched a perfect game.
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Speaker 1: Note that Vin used the words perfect game. There's no
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Speaker 1: such thing as a broadcaster's jinx. Call of the ninth
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Speaker 1: inning was filled with vivid descriptions that perfectly captured the drama.
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Speaker 2: And you can almost taste the freshure. Now twenty nine
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Speaker 2: thousand people in the ballpark and a million butterflies.
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Speaker 1: And now here's Vin's call of the final.
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Speaker 2: Out, two and two, the Harvey Keane one strike away,
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Speaker 2: Sandy into his wind up. Here's the pitch.
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Speaker 3: Swung on in this the perfect game.
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Speaker 1: Scully did not speak for thirty eight seconds, he let
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Speaker 1: the roar of the crowd serve as his color commentator,
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Speaker 1: and when he finally did return to the mic, he
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Speaker 1: put the cherry on top of the Sunday.
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Speaker 2: On the scoreboard and right field. It is nine forty
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Speaker 2: six pm in the City of the Angels, Los Angeles, California,
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Speaker 2: and a crowd of twenty nine thirty nine just sitting
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Speaker 2: in to see the only pitcher in baseball history to
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Speaker 2: herald four no hit, no run games. He has done
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Speaker 2: it four straight years, and now he capped it on
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Speaker 2: his fourth no hitter. He made it up perfect games,
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Speaker 2: and Sandy Kopax, whose name will always remind you of strikeouts,
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Speaker 2: did it with a flourish. He struck out the last
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Speaker 2: six consecutive batteries. So when he wrote his name in
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Speaker 2: capital letters in the record books, that K stands out
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Speaker 2: even more than the oufax.
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Speaker 1: That K stands out even more than the oufax. What
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Speaker 1: an incredible summary. I've always maintained that if we were
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Speaker 1: there that night to write a story about the game,
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Speaker 1: and had several hours to choose every word carefully, our
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Speaker 1: stories would not compare to what the Dodgers broadcaster ad
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Speaker 1: libbed well brought casting it live like Sandy Kofax that night.
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Speaker 1: Vin Scully was perfect. If you would like to hear
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Speaker 1: the entire ninth inning, just search for Vin Scully, Sandy Kofax.
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Speaker 1: You'll see a link on MLB dot com and YouTube.
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Speaker 1: Now let's get to my first guest. First and ten
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Speaker 1: Browns at their own twenty five thrash goes in motion.
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Speaker 1: Placo fakes a handoff and he gets sacked night knocked
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Speaker 1: down by Trey Hendrickson, who led the NFL with seventeen
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Speaker 1: and a half of them a year ago, and he's
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Speaker 1: got his first one in twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 4: Seventeen and a half two years in a row, thirty
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Speaker 4: five two year total. He is a premier pass rushery.
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Speaker 1: After a lengthy contract negotiation, the Bengals, an all pro
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Speaker 1: edge rusher, Trey Hendrickson, agreed to erase this season thirteen
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Speaker 1: days before the season opener. That led to speculation that
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Speaker 1: Trey would be on a quote unquote pitch count in
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Speaker 1: Week one. That did not turn out to be the case.
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Speaker 1: Trey played the most snaps of any Bengals defensive lineman
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Speaker 1: and played them well. He's PFF's ninth highest graded Edge
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Speaker 1: player after one week and for what it's worth, Shamar
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Speaker 1: Stewart is seventh. I talked to Trey about his performance,
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Speaker 1: Schamar's performance and why he doesn't wear gloves. Trey, after
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Speaker 1: having just a few training camp practices, you played fifty
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Speaker 1: seven snaps in the opener, You had eight quarterback pressures.
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Speaker 1: You had a huge impact on the game. Al Golden said,
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Speaker 1: that's an amazing human being to be able to do that.
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Speaker 1: Were you essentially telling the coaches to leave you out there?
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Speaker 5: It was something that the you know, game dictated. Every
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Speaker 5: drive is important. I think every drive is important in
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Speaker 5: every game, but specifically we were in must win situations
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Speaker 5: if we want to go where we want to go.
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Speaker 6: This season, big start being in division.
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Speaker 5: And on the road. So, you know, it was something
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Speaker 5: that I love this team. I've said that this whole offseason.
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Speaker 5: I had great work at the d one point of
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Speaker 5: Vidro with Chase he was my trainer there, and then
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Speaker 5: coming here I got to work out with Pat at
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Speaker 5: Black Cheap and then obviously finishing the job with Joey
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Speaker 5: in House. So I had a great offseason something I
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Speaker 5: was very proud of. I know my wife was very
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Speaker 5: proud of the way I worked as well. So considering
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Speaker 5: all those things and working out and then getting a
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Speaker 5: win and me having to play fifty seven snaps, I
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Speaker 5: do it again.
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Speaker 1: The defense held Cleveland to sixteen points, you got two takeaways.
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Speaker 1: What did the defense do best in the win?
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Speaker 5: I think we're just creating an identity of what kind
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Speaker 5: of brand of football we're going to play. And we're
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Speaker 5: far from where we want to be. There's a lot
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Speaker 5: on film that we have to get corrected. But anytime
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Speaker 5: you're learning with a win, that's a good thing. In
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Speaker 5: the National Football League, we're.
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Speaker 1: Visiting the Trey Hendrickson throughout training camp, you could be
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Speaker 1: seen constantly giving pointers to Shamar Stewart. What'd you think
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Speaker 1: of his debut?
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Speaker 5: You know, I think he's got an exceptional amount of talent.
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Speaker 5: I think that's what the guys in this building obviously
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Speaker 5: have seen in the recruiting process of bringing him to
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Speaker 5: be a part of the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Speaker 6: So the potential is there.
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Speaker 5: Jerry's doing a good job of tapping that potential and
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Speaker 5: everything that it comes with, and as he continues to
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Speaker 5: learn of what our brand of football is, I know
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Speaker 5: his production will improve.
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Speaker 1: Jerry coaches hard.
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Speaker 6: Do you like it? Yeah?
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Speaker 5: I think Jerry's a great coach. His reputation around the
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Speaker 5: league speaks volumes. Great person, great coach, fun to work with.
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Speaker 5: He is an intelligent mind when it comes to run schemes,
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Speaker 5: how to break them down, how to make it identifiable,
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Speaker 5: to slow the game down. So for me as a player,
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Speaker 5: I've been with three different defensive line coaches, and you know,
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Speaker 5: all of them in their own rights, have been elite.
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Speaker 1: Charlie Goldsmith wrote a great story about how you, during
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Speaker 1: the period where you were watching practice but not taking part,
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Speaker 1: reached out to Jerry and said, let's meet every morning
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Speaker 1: at five thirty am so you could learn basically what
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Speaker 1: he was working on with the defensive line. Five thirty
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Speaker 1: am meetings with the coach.
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Speaker 6: Well, you know it was.
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Speaker 5: It was an interesting time for me and I wanted
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Speaker 5: to do more. So the more I would be able
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Speaker 5: to learn the defense. Obviously I could teach from in
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Speaker 5: that situation I was in, so I could actually give
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Speaker 5: to the guys and be speaking the same language and
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Speaker 5: being all on the same page, not just you know,
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Speaker 5: out there just to be out there, you know, like
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Speaker 5: having a purpose. While I was out there, all of us,
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Speaker 5: like I said, collectively speaking the same language. So it
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Speaker 5: was important to me to learn this defense. You know,
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Speaker 5: didn't know what the future held, but I wanted to
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Speaker 5: lean in to the qualities that my wife and I carry,
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Speaker 5: which is when we're all in, we're all.
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Speaker 6: In, you know.
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Speaker 5: And that's something that I have made clear since the
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Speaker 5: beginning of this off season is that I love the
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Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals and I want to.
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Speaker 6: Be all in for them, no matter what that looks like.
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Speaker 1: Do you always get up that early or did you
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Speaker 1: do it specifically in order to meet with Jerry before
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Speaker 1: he had other stuff to do.
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Speaker 5: Well, meetings were happening, you know, pretty early here during
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Speaker 5: camp because there was a quick turnaround for practice for
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Speaker 5: training camp, so there was a limited amount of time
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Speaker 5: because obviously when my son was awake in the afternoon
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Speaker 5: when we all went home, I wanted to spend a
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Speaker 5: little bit of time with him, not meet after so alarm.
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Speaker 6: Clock getting a little early. You know, it is what
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Speaker 6: it is.
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Speaker 5: We're in the National Football League, you know, I needed
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Speaker 5: to catch up for months of time away, and I
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Speaker 5: think we did a great job, the professional professionalism of
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Speaker 5: Jerry to do that for me. During the circumstances, and also,
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Speaker 5: you know there was a mutual respect there where we
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Speaker 5: all wanted.
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Speaker 6: To get better and I could help in any way
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Speaker 6: I could try.
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Speaker 1: You're a four time Pro bowler, you were a first
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Speaker 1: team All Pro member, last year, runner up for NF
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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, NFL sacks leader. It's a
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Speaker 1: heck of a list. What's next? What are you determined
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Speaker 1: to do going forward?
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Speaker 5: I want to be the best Trey Hendrickson I can be,
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Speaker 5: and all those accolades aside.
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Speaker 6: I want to glorify the Lord with my play.
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Speaker 5: God has been so gracious to me with the game
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Speaker 5: of football and my walk personally from high school, college
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Speaker 5: in the NFL and now being in my ninth year
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. These are the things I talked about
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Speaker 5: with my dad when I was six years old, like
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Speaker 5: every six year old talks about, and having a son.
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Speaker 5: Now myself puts it in perspective. You know, this is
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Speaker 5: also a long offseason to spend time with family and reflect.
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Speaker 6: I know I have a lot of work to continue
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Speaker 6: to do.
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Speaker 5: I know I have a lot of gas in the
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Speaker 5: tank and tread on the tires, so I'm excited for
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Speaker 5: the future. But I've never played for the accolades. I
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Speaker 5: never played for the statistics. I want to help my
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Speaker 5: team win. I want to play as hard as I
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Speaker 5: can and let the trips fall where they may. And
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Speaker 5: I know it's been five years of saying that, it
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Speaker 5: is the truth, and I have high spectations for myself
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Speaker 5: because of the way I work and the way I
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Speaker 5: conduct myself.
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Speaker 6: And you know, but that's something that every.
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Speaker 5: Week, giving it your all with the win in mind
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Speaker 5: and helping the team the statistics or the byproduct.
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Speaker 1: The ruler of the jungle this week is Sam Hubbard,
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Speaker 1: your teammate, your former running mate, is the two defensive ends.
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Speaker 1: What did you respect about Sam when you two guys
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Speaker 1: played together.
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Speaker 5: There's so many things I could say what I respect
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Speaker 5: about him, but I think, you know, he embodied what
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Speaker 5: being a Bengal was on and off the field, and
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Speaker 5: I think he was a leader through and through, you know,
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Speaker 5: first in line, always an example of what it looked
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Speaker 5: like to be a football player, give a one hundred
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Speaker 5: percent effort all the time, and his character was second
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Speaker 5: to none. You know, he was a guy that you
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Speaker 5: could always rely on, always trust, knew what to do
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Speaker 5: and did it to a high level, and I have
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Speaker 5: a tremendous amount of respect for him and the friendship
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Speaker 5: I'm going to have with him for years to come
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Speaker 5: because of the things he taught me as a player
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Speaker 5: and obviously hopefully the things I taught him.
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Speaker 1: He told me you reached out and asked him to
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Speaker 1: look at the tape, give you some pointers after week one?
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Speaker 3: Will he?
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Speaker 5: You know, I think that football will always be a
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Speaker 5: part of his life. It'll always be a part of
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Speaker 5: my life. There's always a day where we won't be
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Speaker 5: able to play, and whether that's ye're one for some
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Speaker 5: guys or you're fifteen for other guys, there's a day
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Speaker 5: where we take off the pads and you know, sometimes
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Speaker 5: in life it comes sooner than later. And you know,
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Speaker 5: for him to handle it with the amount of like
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Speaker 5: I respect the way he handled it and everything that
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Speaker 5: he has and a tremendous life looking forward to ahead
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Speaker 5: of him.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's a it's.
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Speaker 5: A cool thing, you know that for him to you know,
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Speaker 5: we talk ball, and we will always talk ball, and
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Speaker 5: I always want his opinion because he gave it to
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Speaker 5: me on Monday mornings after the game, we would talk
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Speaker 5: about football.
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Speaker 6: So he's a He's a part of.
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Speaker 5: The Cincinnati Bengals culture that we're going to continue on here.
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Speaker 1: Another teammate and friend is Josepho's. He had an awesome
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Speaker 1: response when I asked about you during your contract impass.
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Speaker 1: Here's what he said. The defense needs him. You feel
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Speaker 1: his presence when he's out there. Ask any offensive lineman
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Speaker 1: in the league. When trade lines up in front of
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Speaker 1: you with his tinted face, mask, no gloves, long sleeves
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Speaker 1: and tights, you know you've got war the whole game.
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Speaker 1: What's your reaction to that quote.
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Speaker 5: I love Joseph, He's been He was my first rookie
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Speaker 5: as a VET, you know, not to say that being
13:31
Speaker 5: year four in New Orleans was an a vet, but
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Speaker 5: I came here for a purpose, and obviously he was
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Speaker 5: the first defensive end that I was able to inherit
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Speaker 5: a meaning was drafted to us in our room also
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Speaker 5: Cam sample, but to take him under my wing in
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Speaker 5: some ways like Cam Jordan took me under his wing
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Speaker 5: and kind of help him along the way. Now he
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Speaker 5: has to become who he wants to be, and for
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Speaker 5: him to talk about me like that is special, And
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Speaker 5: you know, I hope someday you know there's someone that
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Speaker 5: will look up to him the way you know I
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Speaker 5: look up to Cam and hopefully he looks up to me.
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Speaker 5: So you know, that's just continuing the legacy and of
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Speaker 5: what football is. It's it's not keep all your secrets
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Speaker 5: and hold them tight to your chest. It's it's a
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Speaker 5: giving sport. We have a common goal to win. We're
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Speaker 5: all wearing the same uniform for this season and continuing forward.
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Speaker 6: It's a special thing.
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Speaker 5: So that's a tremendous respect for him and he's a
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Speaker 5: he's a friend for life too.
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Speaker 1: A follow up to that quote, why no gloves.
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Speaker 6: It's just a toughness thing.
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Speaker 5: You know after a while, Like in New Orleans they
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Speaker 5: got sweaty, and Fau they got sweaty, and you know,
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Speaker 5: after a while it was like, man, why you know,
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Speaker 5: so being a part of you know, there's some guys
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Speaker 5: that don't wear gloves and you always know that those
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Speaker 5: guys are they got a little something to him.
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Speaker 1: Final question, and the only contract related question now that
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Speaker 1: you're playing again, is the bitterness gone? How are you
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Speaker 1: feeling mentally?
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Speaker 5: You know, it's one one game in a time mentality,
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Speaker 5: doing what's best for the twenty twenty five Bengals, and
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Speaker 5: for that, I will give everything I've got. And you
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Speaker 5: know it's something that I don't even think about what's uncontrollable.
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Speaker 6: I can only control what's controllable.
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Speaker 5: And that's how we handle ourselves in our home and
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Speaker 5: in our family and how I was raised. So what's
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Speaker 5: in my control is going out there on Sundays and
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Speaker 5: giving it my all.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you so much, thanks for the time, best of
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Speaker 1: luck this week.
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Speaker 6: All right, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Trey has one of four players credited with eight pressures
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Speaker 1: in Week one to share the NFL lead. Miles Garrett
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Speaker 1: had two sacks against the Bengals, but the old line
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Speaker 1: held him to five pressures. For the second straight year,
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Speaker 1: the Bengals will open in orange, but in addition to
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Speaker 1: wearing that color, Zach Taylor has another request for any
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Speaker 1: of you going to the game.
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Speaker 7: I know how loud we're going to be, and so
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Speaker 7: let's do it early. Let's show him right out the gate.
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Speaker 7: I think when Sam Hubbard is up there is the
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Speaker 7: ruler of the jungle. Every seat is packed, and I'd
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Speaker 7: love to look up just for I'm just asking for
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Speaker 7: one game, a ten minute sacrifice from the parking lot,
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Speaker 7: and so that that might just mean getting up ten minutes,
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Speaker 7: ten minutes earlier and getting to the stadium ten minutes
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Speaker 7: earlier than you normally would. And so do whatever you
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Speaker 7: want of those extra ten and then that extra ten
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Speaker 7: getting in the stadium. And so when when Sam's the ruler,
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Speaker 7: I'm kind of looking up at that escalator that's to
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Speaker 7: my right, and it's it's like, you know, and maybe
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Speaker 7: people just appease me and stand at the bottom. So
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Speaker 7: I can't see as he's up there, but I would
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Speaker 7: love to hear that just week one. The rest of them,
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Speaker 7: you can you can tell, get a little extra longer.
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Speaker 7: But I think for this first one to be awesome,
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Speaker 7: just to send the message to the team, we got
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Speaker 7: to do our best to start to to zero. And
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Speaker 7: for all the great things that we want to do
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Speaker 7: this year, it starts with playing great at home. And
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Speaker 7: that's a collective effort from our players, our coaches, our
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Speaker 7: fan base. And so I'm excited to set off twenty
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Speaker 7: twenty five the right way at home and Orange were
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Speaker 7: oranged out, you know, and the gat and I goes
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Speaker 7: to be fired up.
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Speaker 1: So finish that last beverige and Burger at your tailgate
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Speaker 1: lot and be in your seat ready to belt out
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Speaker 1: the Hooday chant when it's led by my next guest,
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Speaker 1: The ruler of the Jungle this week proudly wore the
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Speaker 1: orange and black for his hometown team for seven years.
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Speaker 1: I am speaking of the Cincinnati kid, Sam Hubbard. Sam,
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Speaker 1: great to see you. Here's my first question. What did
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Speaker 1: you do on your first NFL Sunday in retirement?
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Speaker 8: Dan, Good to see you. Uh yeah, it was a
17:32
Speaker 8: weird feeling.
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Speaker 9: I was.
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Speaker 8: I was out of town. I was on a fishing
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Speaker 8: trip in Yellowstone, but I was locked in. I was
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Speaker 8: in the airport, but locked in on my phone watching
17:42
Speaker 8: the game. Uh play by play it was. I was
17:45
Speaker 8: glad they game on with the wind. You know, it's
17:47
Speaker 8: tough to always play in Cleveland again. That win first
17:51
Speaker 8: week is so huge to set up the season. I
17:54
Speaker 8: was pumped for him.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna miss game day. But what about
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Speaker 1: training camp? Did you miscamp up?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 8: You know, I've had August this training camp for the
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Speaker 8: last I don't even know, fifteen twenty years, and having
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Speaker 8: that month back to myself was different for sure. I
18:11
Speaker 8: definitely was doing other activities outside of training camp, but
18:16
Speaker 8: I definitely missed the you know, the time you spend
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Speaker 8: with your teammates that August training camp, you really develop
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Speaker 8: who you're going to be as a team. You kind
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Speaker 8: of get closer, develop those relationships. And I was texting
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Speaker 8: some guys seeing what was going on, what was the
18:30
Speaker 8: latest developments. You know, it's it's fun chatter. And just
18:35
Speaker 8: felt a little out of the loop, but that's the
18:37
Speaker 8: natural the way of things.
18:39
Speaker 1: Well, I am sure you're up to speed on Week
18:42
Speaker 1: one now. Road wins in the AFC North are prized commodity.
18:46
Speaker 1: What did you think about Cincinnati's victory in Cleveland.
18:50
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's huge that, Like you said, those AFC North
18:53
Speaker 8: winds are massive for setting you up for the postseason.
18:57
Speaker 8: My career, of the last several years, we've had trouble
19:01
Speaker 8: winning in Cleveland. It's a tough place to play, the grass,
19:04
Speaker 8: the crowd, that defense is you know, it's it's a
19:09
Speaker 8: tough win and I'm glad they pulled it off, setting
19:12
Speaker 8: themselves up to to be top of the vision and
19:15
Speaker 8: you know, fight to stay at top it as the
19:17
Speaker 8: season goes on.
19:18
Speaker 1: When you win a game like that and you didn't
19:21
Speaker 1: play your best, are you fine with it. I'm sure
19:24
Speaker 1: immediately after the victory you are. But as the days
19:27
Speaker 1: go by, do you still feel good about it?
19:30
Speaker 8: Well, when you can win those games that are close.
19:32
Speaker 8: You know, last year we had a lot of those
19:34
Speaker 8: games and we didn't win them, And that's all that
19:37
Speaker 8: matters is getting those wins and learning from them. And
19:40
Speaker 8: I'll tell you, you do a lot better in the
19:44
Speaker 8: long run winning close games like that and learning from
19:47
Speaker 8: them than you do, you know, having losing all those.
19:51
Speaker 8: You know, I'm sure that with the way that they played,
19:54
Speaker 8: they're very motivated on fixing their mistakes. I know several
19:57
Speaker 8: guys are, you know, not happy with a one to
20:01
Speaker 8: oh start with that type of win, So I'm sure
20:04
Speaker 8: they're building on it and excited about the momentum and
20:08
Speaker 8: first home game, perfect place to put on their best performance.
20:12
Speaker 1: One thing they are definitely happy about was the run defense.
20:16
Speaker 1: In Week one, Cleveland ran it twenty four times, no
20:19
Speaker 1: runs longer than five yards. They averaged two yards per carry.
20:24
Speaker 1: How closely does stopping the run like that correlate to victory?
20:29
Speaker 8: Very closely, especially on the road. You know, I saw
20:32
Speaker 8: a lot of guys taking on blocks, shedding blocks, block
20:36
Speaker 8: destruction making tackles usually early in the season. Early in
20:41
Speaker 8: the weeks, you see a lot of mistackles as people
20:44
Speaker 8: get back into the swing of things. I think they
20:46
Speaker 8: did a great job. Obviously, we're working really hard in
20:48
Speaker 8: camp on tackling, putting an emphasis on it, and it
20:51
Speaker 8: showed up. And if you can have those fundamentals and
20:55
Speaker 8: really build your foundation on stopping the run early in
20:58
Speaker 8: the season, it becomes a standard and I think that
21:00
Speaker 8: sets them up well. That's a very big positive.
21:03
Speaker 1: When you went to the Super Bowl in twenty twenty one,
21:05
Speaker 1: Al Golden was the Bengals linebackers coach. What was your
21:08
Speaker 1: reaction when he came back to be the DC.
21:10
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know Il really well. I know how much
21:12
Speaker 8: he loves football, how intense he is in his preparation.
21:16
Speaker 8: We always talk about how early he gets there and
21:19
Speaker 8: all his coffee, and you know how much football means
21:23
Speaker 8: to him. And I think that resonates to the defense,
21:27
Speaker 8: especially with these young guys coming from college. You know,
21:29
Speaker 8: he had experience in college and knows how to develop guys.
21:34
Speaker 8: And I thought it was a great fit. Knowing Cincinnati,
21:36
Speaker 8: knowing you know, the coaching staff, a lot of the
21:38
Speaker 8: players too. I was excited about the fit, and obviously
21:43
Speaker 8: they're off to a great start.
21:45
Speaker 1: You and Trey Hendrickson formed a dynamic duo at defensive end.
21:49
Speaker 1: What do you respect most about Trey?
21:52
Speaker 9: Yeah.
21:52
Speaker 8: I have a lot of respect for play obviously, Trey.
21:54
Speaker 8: Obviously we have grown very close over the years, had
21:57
Speaker 8: a lot of big moments, a lot of big wins together.
22:00
Speaker 8: I really respect his intensity, his work ethic. He's one
22:04
Speaker 8: of the most intense guys you'll find on the football field,
22:07
Speaker 8: and that translates to his play, and you know, he's
22:10
Speaker 8: always looking to get better. He texted me after the
22:12
Speaker 8: game coach me up, and I thought that was funny.
22:17
Speaker 8: You know, he's had a great forty pass rush win
22:21
Speaker 8: or something like that, and he was still focused on
22:25
Speaker 8: you know, he's got to improve, He's got to get better.
22:27
Speaker 8: So that's just the relentless mindset that I think makes
22:29
Speaker 8: him great.
22:30
Speaker 1: Will you coach him up?
22:31
Speaker 9: Did you watch the tape?
22:33
Speaker 8: I watched it. I don't know if he needs much
22:36
Speaker 8: coaching for me, but sometimes it's good for a second
22:38
Speaker 8: set of eyes just to bounce ideas off of. So
22:41
Speaker 8: I'm always there for that for anybody.
22:44
Speaker 1: Sam, you got to know Joe Burrow as an eighteen
22:46
Speaker 1: year old college freshman, and you two guys have been
22:49
Speaker 1: fast friends ever since. When did you start to think
22:52
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow could be one of the best quarterbacks
22:55
Speaker 1: to do it?
22:57
Speaker 8: You know, it's an evolution, I think that. You know,
23:00
Speaker 8: when the quarterback battle was going on at Ohio State,
23:05
Speaker 8: it dragged on very long because Joe simply wouldn't allow
23:11
Speaker 8: a clear decision. He was fighting constantly, you know, making
23:16
Speaker 8: his case. And you know, Dwayne Haskins was a great
23:20
Speaker 8: player and came in for the Michigan game the year
23:22
Speaker 8: before because Joe's hand was broken, and you know, it
23:26
Speaker 8: kind of set him back, but he fought tooth and
23:28
Speaker 8: nail and I just earned so much respect for him
23:31
Speaker 8: during that quarterback battle. And obviously I went to the
23:34
Speaker 8: NFL and he went to LSUS, so we never got
23:36
Speaker 8: to play together. But watching him from Afar, you know,
23:39
Speaker 8: I was campaigning for him to come to the Bengals,
23:43
Speaker 8: to Zach to Joe, trying to broker that relationship just
23:47
Speaker 8: as a friend, knowing how much it'd mean to us,
23:50
Speaker 8: and thankfully it all worked out.
23:52
Speaker 1: Good recruiting on your part. I remember that National semifinal
23:56
Speaker 1: game against Oklahoma, where he threw seven touchdown passes in
23:59
Speaker 1: the first half, and at that point it was likely
24:02
Speaker 1: that the Bengals were going to have the first pick
24:04
Speaker 1: in the draft. Were you as excited watching that LSU
24:07
Speaker 1: Oklahoma game as I was.
24:10
Speaker 6: No.
24:10
Speaker 8: I watched every one of his college games with some
24:12
Speaker 8: of my our Ohio state friends and we just were
24:16
Speaker 8: you know, in all I like, I think the whole
24:19
Speaker 8: country was in you know, his performance in big stages,
24:24
Speaker 8: his growth from his I think his red shirt junior
24:26
Speaker 8: year to his red shirt senior year, but all throughout
24:29
Speaker 8: the toughness he showed. I think it took a lot
24:32
Speaker 8: of people by surprise and gained a lot of Joe
24:34
Speaker 8: Burrow fans. But we had a close, a close game
24:39
Speaker 8: to Miami late in that year where we could have
24:42
Speaker 8: beaten them in double overtime and lost the first pick.
24:46
Speaker 8: I'm just glad it worked out and we were although
24:49
Speaker 8: it was a tough year too, you know, in twenty
24:52
Speaker 8: nineteen to go two and fourteen and paid off getting
24:57
Speaker 8: that first overall pick to get our.
24:59
Speaker 1: Guy Sam After you fire up the fans as the
25:03
Speaker 1: ruler of the jungle. This Sunday, the Bengals will host
25:05
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, coming off an impressive Week one win
25:09
Speaker 1: over Carolina. What are some keys to victory for the
25:11
Speaker 1: Bengals this Sunday.
25:13
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's starting fast, you know. I think
25:15
Speaker 8: that this crowd is going to be incredible open an Orange.
25:19
Speaker 8: There's gonna be a lot of excitement, a lot of tailgating.
25:21
Speaker 8: I'll hopefully provide some juice and energy at the start.
25:24
Speaker 8: But you know, we've had a lot of home openers
25:28
Speaker 8: where we didn't start fast. I remember playing Jacksonville Week
25:31
Speaker 8: four on Thursday night in twenty twenty one and we're
25:34
Speaker 8: down fourteen to nothing at half, and that just makes
25:37
Speaker 8: it harder. But if you can get that lead early,
25:40
Speaker 8: get the crowd behind you, get that crowd noise going,
25:42
Speaker 8: start getting those pass rushers to get a good get off.
25:47
Speaker 8: With that silent count and a little chaos, I think
25:50
Speaker 8: they can really establish a strong foundation to winning at home.
25:55
Speaker 8: That can be the key to getting where they want
25:57
Speaker 8: to be at the end of the year. So I
25:58
Speaker 8: think it's just starting fast and not letting any adversity
26:02
Speaker 8: that arises that will for sure arise shake these new
26:06
Speaker 8: players and it'll be fun to watch.
26:09
Speaker 1: You're doing phenomenal work in the community with the Sam
26:12
Speaker 1: Hubbard Foundation. What do you have going on this time
26:15
Speaker 1: of year and how can people help?
26:17
Speaker 8: Yeah, this time of year, schools back in session. Our
26:20
Speaker 8: main program, Hubbard's Cupboards, is grown by fifteen schools this year.
26:26
Speaker 8: This school year that just started, We're in thirty six
26:28
Speaker 8: local schools providing resources for confidence and school supplies, high
26:34
Speaker 8: gene items, healthy snacks and if you're interested in learning more,
26:38
Speaker 8: check it out on our website Sam Hubbard Foundation dot com.
26:42
Speaker 8: And I'm excited to be still in this community here
26:44
Speaker 8: in Cincinnati doing things like this and staying involved.
26:49
Speaker 1: We are excited to see you on the stage as
26:51
Speaker 1: the Ruler of the Jungle this Sunday. I appreciate your
26:54
Speaker 1: time and enjoy the season as a fan for the
26:57
Speaker 1: first time in a long time.
26:58
Speaker 8: Thanks Dan, always a pleasure see you there.
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Speaker 1: week's Know the Faux segment. After a dreadful season that
27:32
Speaker 1: ended with a four and thirteen record, the Jacksonville Jaguars
27:35
Speaker 1: cleaned house, firing their GM and head coach. The new
27:39
Speaker 1: GM is thirty five year old James Gladstone, the youngest
27:43
Speaker 1: GM in the NFL. The new head coach is thirty
27:46
Speaker 1: nine year old Liam Cohen, among the five youngest head
27:49
Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL, and the team's new vice president
27:52
Speaker 1: of football Operations is Hall of Fame offensive lineman Tony Bisselli.
27:58
Speaker 1: The new trio is off to a good start after
28:00
Speaker 1: a twenty six to ten Week one win over Carolina.
28:04
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie is the voice of the Jaguars and joined
28:08
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham and me this week on the Bengals Game
28:10
Speaker 1: Plan Show.
28:12
Speaker 3: It's been a tough go around here, as you guys know,
28:15
Speaker 3: and it was a good start, and even in the
28:17
Speaker 3: offseason it felt like it might be that way. Tony
28:20
Speaker 3: Bucelli is running things around here now. The new regime
28:24
Speaker 3: seems to be all pulling in the same direction, which
28:27
Speaker 3: we haven't maybe always had. So yeah, it was a
28:29
Speaker 3: good start. It was just it was one game, but
28:32
Speaker 3: I think it felt pretty good around here. I think
28:33
Speaker 3: your assessment's dead.
28:34
Speaker 4: On what did the Jaguars do best? In your opinion
28:39
Speaker 4: when you were watching the game live, What did they
28:43
Speaker 4: do that kind of made you perk up in the
28:46
Speaker 4: in your in the broadcast booth and take notice, or
28:50
Speaker 4: after the game when you had time to look at
28:52
Speaker 4: it again in review tape of it, what might have
28:55
Speaker 4: jumped out at you?
28:57
Speaker 3: Okay, But I think the main thing is they said
29:00
Speaker 3: they were going to run the ball, and they said
29:02
Speaker 3: they were going to be a physical So, you know, we.
29:03
Speaker 9: Have a new regime.
29:04
Speaker 3: You never really know, right, you know, you have an
29:07
Speaker 3: idea what they want to be and what they hope
29:09
Speaker 3: they'll be. But Liam Cohen ran the ball as the
29:12
Speaker 3: coordinator in Tampa last year, and I think one of
29:14
Speaker 3: the things that helped him really sort of unlock some
29:16
Speaker 3: things in Baker Mayfield is he got Bucky Irving in
29:19
Speaker 3: that running game going, and I think that's one of
29:21
Speaker 3: the things that made him attractive to Jacksonville. Well, he
29:23
Speaker 3: got here and they said, listen, we're going to run
29:25
Speaker 3: the football.
29:26
Speaker 9: We're going to we have to be a physical football team.
29:28
Speaker 9: And they did that.
29:29
Speaker 3: They stuck to the run. They ran for two hundred yards.
29:31
Speaker 3: You know, the running the teams that are committed to
29:33
Speaker 3: the run. Everybody could run on first and ten, but
29:36
Speaker 3: he's still willing to run on second and nine, right
29:38
Speaker 3: or second and eight. And I think they were so.
29:40
Speaker 3: I think the commitment to the run traves ETN had
29:43
Speaker 3: the big game rushing. The team rushed for two hundred yards.
29:47
Speaker 3: They were more physical than this team's been in a while.
29:49
Speaker 3: I think there's one thing that jumped off the page
29:52
Speaker 3: and I think we were all kind of excited about
29:54
Speaker 3: is they said they were going to run the football and.
29:55
Speaker 9: They did right.
29:57
Speaker 1: My son is a student at the University of Colorado,
30:00
Speaker 1: so I watched a lot of Travis Hunter last year
30:03
Speaker 1: and it was an amazing show on both sides of
30:06
Speaker 1: the ball. In Week one, most the offense, just a
30:09
Speaker 1: few snaps on defense. I heard that Liam Cohen apparently
30:12
Speaker 1: said earlier today he'll play more defense this week. How
30:17
Speaker 1: has he looked, I mean, has he been as impressive
30:20
Speaker 1: on the practice field as he was for the Buffaloes
30:23
Speaker 1: last year.
30:24
Speaker 9: You know, damn.
30:25
Speaker 3: The thing is he's never tired wherever.
30:27
Speaker 9: I don't even where he is right now, but wherever
30:28
Speaker 9: he is, he's not tired.
30:29
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that right now.
30:30
Speaker 9: He's never tired.
30:32
Speaker 3: That's the amazing thing about him. And I'll say this, Yeah,
30:36
Speaker 3: he's look good in practice. He's got to learn the offense.
30:38
Speaker 3: He's got to learn defense. But he can play all
30:41
Speaker 3: day long. And if your son watched him, you probably
30:43
Speaker 3: watched him.
30:43
Speaker 9: You know this.
30:44
Speaker 3: He's got the endurance. What he's got to do is
30:47
Speaker 3: learn the offense and the defense. Last week he played
30:50
Speaker 3: forty two plays on offense and six on defense. I
30:53
Speaker 3: think this week the plan is to play more on defensive.
30:55
Speaker 3: Liam said for a couple of reasons. Number one, he
30:57
Speaker 3: got the first game under his belt. Right now, he's
31:00
Speaker 3: got the feel of playing on both sides of the
31:01
Speaker 3: ball and knowing both game plans. And he did that
31:04
Speaker 3: one time, so this will be the second time he's
31:06
Speaker 3: done that.
31:06
Speaker 9: The other thing is.
31:07
Speaker 3: He's playing Joe Burrow. Okay, with all apologies to Bryce Young,
31:11
Speaker 3: this week, he's playing Joe Burrow. When he's playing those
31:13
Speaker 3: receivers so I think it's all hands on deck. Defensively,
31:16
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's going to be. Let's say
31:19
Speaker 3: there's sixty offensive plays and sixty defense. I don't know
31:22
Speaker 3: that he's going to play forty and forty, but I'll
31:25
Speaker 3: bet you he plays twenty to twenty five on defense,
31:28
Speaker 3: would be my guest this week, and forty or so
31:31
Speaker 3: on offense. If I was guessing, I think that's where
31:33
Speaker 3: it would be.
31:33
Speaker 9: But yeah, he's been very impressive.
31:35
Speaker 3: He's a great kid, hard worker, gained the respect of
31:38
Speaker 3: his teammates really right out of the gate, and he's
31:41
Speaker 3: going to be some player.
31:42
Speaker 9: He really is.
31:43
Speaker 4: What other players on the Jacksonville Jaguars have impressed you.
31:49
Speaker 3: I would say Travis Etn had the big game. You know,
31:52
Speaker 3: people have been trying to chase off TRAVIS'STN forever. Right,
31:55
Speaker 3: He's the first round draft pick. He was just okay
31:58
Speaker 3: for some of those years, so they thought, I think
32:00
Speaker 3: Bigsby might beat him out. He's more of a downhill runner.
32:02
Speaker 3: Then they drafted to running backs, they drafted Basil Tutons,
32:05
Speaker 3: they drafted le Quinn Allen, and everybody thought Travis might
32:09
Speaker 3: be say everybody, many thought Travis might be the forgotten man. Well,
32:12
Speaker 3: he took that personally.
32:13
Speaker 9: He said, okay, okay's still my job.
32:15
Speaker 3: And he had the big game one hundred and forty
32:17
Speaker 3: plus last week, so he certainly looked good. And I
32:20
Speaker 3: think one of the reasons is they blocked. They brought
32:22
Speaker 3: in Robert Hainsey to be their center. He's a physical player.
32:25
Speaker 3: They brought in Patrick McCarey from the Ravens to be
32:27
Speaker 3: the right guard.
32:27
Speaker 9: He's a physical player. Ezra Cleveland, the left guard.
32:30
Speaker 3: Was always athletics, but I thought he had a little
32:32
Speaker 3: more lead in his rear end this time than I've
32:35
Speaker 3: seen in the past. So the running game Travis CTN
32:37
Speaker 3: stood out. And I'll say this, Foyer Lucan had a
32:40
Speaker 3: great game. He was kind of playing out of position.
32:42
Speaker 3: He's always led the team in tackles. He's often led
32:45
Speaker 3: the league at tackles.
32:46
Speaker 9: Last year they moved him to from the mic to.
32:48
Speaker 3: The will because they thought he'd played space better, and
32:50
Speaker 3: it was a mistake. He's back at the mike linebacker spot.
32:53
Speaker 9: He was the player.
32:53
Speaker 3: He was the AFC Player of the Week defensively this week,
32:56
Speaker 3: and he earned that with ten tackles and a diving interception.
33:00
Speaker 9: I would say a Lucon.
33:01
Speaker 3: On the defensive side the middle linebacker, and travisse Etn
33:04
Speaker 3: on the offensive side who had a really big game.
33:07
Speaker 3: Those two guys are attorneyes that were real pleased with
33:10
Speaker 3: how they played.
33:13
Speaker 1: There are a lot of high draft picks on the
33:14
Speaker 1: defensive line. Frank the number one overall pick from a
33:17
Speaker 1: few years back, Trayvon Walker the seventh pick in the
33:20
Speaker 1: draft not too long ago, Josh heinz Allen many years ago,
33:24
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead was the seventeenth pick in the draft. Remains
33:27
Speaker 1: a giant up front. How good is that group? Because
33:31
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns front gave Cincinnati a lot of trouble last.
33:34
Speaker 9: Week and the ends are very good.
33:37
Speaker 3: I would say that Josh heines Allen and Trayvon Walker
33:40
Speaker 3: are going to continue to be good players.
33:42
Speaker 9: Two years ago, Josh.
33:43
Speaker 3: Had seventeen and a half sacks and Trayvon had ten.
33:47
Speaker 3: Last year, Treyvon had ten. Josh didnt that as good
33:49
Speaker 3: a year, but the ends are good.
33:50
Speaker 9: They're good there.
33:52
Speaker 3: Duan smooth Is the backup end, had two sacks last
33:54
Speaker 3: week or a sacond and a half. They went and
33:56
Speaker 3: got Emmanuel ogg go to be a backup end, so
33:58
Speaker 3: I think they're okay outside. I would say that the
34:01
Speaker 3: jury is still out on the tackles. Eric Armistead did
34:04
Speaker 3: not practice much. He was hurt too much a camp
34:06
Speaker 3: played last week. I'm not sure he played, made a
34:09
Speaker 3: lot of splash plays. De Von Hamilton, the nose guard,
34:11
Speaker 3: played okay last week. They added two guys, Austin Johnson
34:15
Speaker 3: from Buffalo and Colin Saunders from from New Orleans. I
34:18
Speaker 3: think they're just okay at tackle. I think if you
34:21
Speaker 3: if you try to identify a concern on the football
34:23
Speaker 3: team going into the season coming out of camp, it
34:26
Speaker 3: would be defensive tackle. I'm not sure they fixed that.
34:29
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see. So I think the ends
34:31
Speaker 3: are pretty good and and I think they like where
34:33
Speaker 3: they are with their ends. They'd probably like to see
34:35
Speaker 3: the tackles flash a little bit more. I think I would,
34:39
Speaker 3: And I think that's probably where they are as well.
34:42
Speaker 4: How how big a focus is ball security with the
34:46
Speaker 4: coaching staff during the course of practice.
34:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll tell you this. Any team that runs
34:53
Speaker 3: the ball and it's sound like a broken record here,
34:55
Speaker 3: guys that I apologize, but we haven't done that around here,
34:58
Speaker 3: right any team it's that committed to running the ball.
35:02
Speaker 3: Better take care of the ball. You know, if you
35:04
Speaker 3: think if you're a running team, the game's going to
35:07
Speaker 3: be a little shorter, right, You're not as likely to
35:09
Speaker 3: come from behind, And I think you better care of
35:12
Speaker 3: the ball.
35:12
Speaker 8: Now.
35:13
Speaker 9: Again, they've played one game.
35:14
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean Trevor won't throw it forty five times
35:16
Speaker 3: on Sunday in Cincinnati. But I think that's who they
35:19
Speaker 3: want to be. You always want to establish your identity,
35:22
Speaker 3: and I think that's who they want to be. So
35:23
Speaker 3: they've got to take care of the ball, and Trevor's
35:25
Speaker 3: got to take better care of the ball. He would
35:26
Speaker 3: tell you that Trevor's got to. Trevor Lawrence is a
35:29
Speaker 3: really good kid and he's going to be a very
35:31
Speaker 3: good player in this league. There's no doubt in my mind.
35:33
Speaker 3: I think he's made progress, but the one thing he's
35:35
Speaker 3: got to do is take care of the ball. I
35:36
Speaker 3: think Trevor was so successful in college sticking balls in
35:40
Speaker 3: there where you probably shouldn't have been able to. But
35:42
Speaker 3: his receivers were so good and his arm is so
35:45
Speaker 3: good that he got some balls in it and.
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Speaker 9: Maybe you shouldn't. You shouldn't have been able to write.
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Speaker 3: And you have to learn and you get in this
35:51
Speaker 3: league and didn't like that. You get in this league.
35:53
Speaker 3: That cornerback from wake Forest who couldn't quite get there
35:56
Speaker 3: is now a cornerback from the Denver Broncos who's going
35:58
Speaker 3: to get there right. And I think that he had
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Speaker 3: to learn that and I think he's starting to. So, Yes,
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Speaker 3: small security is a big deal. Turnovers or the kiss
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Speaker 3: of dead. By the way, we were the worst team
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Speaker 3: in the league last year in takeaways. The Jagguars had
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Speaker 3: nine takeaways all last year. The defense got them nine
36:17
Speaker 3: turnovers all last year. They harready got three in the
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Speaker 3: first game. They had three takeaways for a team that's
36:22
Speaker 3: a third of what they did in the entire season.
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Speaker 9: So that's certainly a point of emphasis with his defense
36:26
Speaker 9: as well.
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Speaker 1: Three years ago, Jacksonville made the playoffs and won a
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Speaker 1: playoff game, one of the great comebacks in football history,
36:34
Speaker 1: twenty seven zip to beat the Chargers. They still had
36:37
Speaker 1: a winning record the following year and Trevor Lawrence got
36:40
Speaker 1: hurt late in the season or they might have made
36:42
Speaker 1: the playoffs again. And then last year the bottom fell
36:45
Speaker 1: out for whatever reason. Four wins all year. What happened.
36:48
Speaker 1: Why did they fall off that coup last year?
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Speaker 9: Boy, then that is the question.
36:53
Speaker 3: I'm still horse from that comeback three years ago, so
36:55
Speaker 3: I remember it well. One of the fun moments we've
36:59
Speaker 3: all had around here.
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Speaker 9: You know what the question you just asked is is.
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Speaker 3: The bizarre one? They had the really good year under
37:06
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson his first year here the playoffs, They won
37:09
Speaker 3: the playoff game, they went they may be Elite eight
37:11
Speaker 3: if you will, of the NFL, and then lost to
37:13
Speaker 3: obviously a very good Chiefs team.
37:15
Speaker 9: And they were very good that year.
37:16
Speaker 3: The next year they started eight and three and it
37:18
Speaker 3: looked like they were It looked like they were pretty good. Now,
37:21
Speaker 3: if you remember the game against the Bengals here, Christian
37:24
Speaker 3: Kirk got hurt. Okay, in that game when he got her.
37:27
Speaker 3: There were eight and three at the time, and that's
37:29
Speaker 3: the game he got hurt, and that started the spiral down.
37:33
Speaker 9: Man.
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Speaker 3: They finished one in five. One in five started with
37:36
Speaker 3: that game against the Bengals and never picked up the pieces.
37:39
Speaker 3: I thought last year they kind of would resurrect that,
37:43
Speaker 3: but they just never got it going. Doug Peterson's a
37:45
Speaker 3: wonderful man. I think he's a very good football coach,
37:47
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure he and the in the GM
37:49
Speaker 3: were pulling in the same direction. The more you lose,
37:52
Speaker 3: the more confidence you lose. And you know that defensively
37:55
Speaker 3: they weren't very good. They brought in a new coordinator,
37:57
Speaker 3: Ryan Neilson last year, and it was a disaster defensively,
38:01
Speaker 3: so the offense was playing catchup all the time. It
38:03
Speaker 3: hard to run the ball when you're down seventeen to
38:05
Speaker 3: six in the second quarter, and that was kind of
38:08
Speaker 3: the season they had. So yeah, it was I'm not
38:11
Speaker 3: sure everything that happened, Dan, but it.
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Speaker 9: Was a hard year.
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Speaker 3: Man. It was a hard year, and that's why sometimes
38:16
Speaker 3: we have those. That's why you have all the changes.
38:18
Speaker 3: They had the changes, and I think that's why there's
38:20
Speaker 3: so much positivity now because they are all pulling in
38:23
Speaker 3: the same direction and they all seem to be of
38:25
Speaker 3: a similar mind, and I think they're excited about where
38:27
Speaker 3: they are.
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Speaker 9: I really believe that.
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Speaker 1: All right, thanks to Frank Frangie, And here's a quick
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38:44
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