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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian, here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, June 24, 2026.
- 0:08Speaker 2: I mean, I.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Wish him well, but he's got two problems.
- 0:15Speaker 4: Energy and immigration.
- 0:17Speaker 5: Maybe there'll be a contest, maybe they won't. I hope
- 0:20Speaker 5: there is, because I have absolutely no idea where Andy
- 0:23Speaker 5: Burnham stands on anything.
- 0:25Speaker 6: If we keep pretending that being prime minister is a
- 0:28Speaker 6: popularity contest, we will keep getting people who can win elections,
- 0:32Speaker 6: but who cannot run the country, and they end up
- 0:34Speaker 6: resigning in the very sad way that Keir Starmer had
- 0:37Speaker 6: to do yesterday.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Keir Starmer's out and Andy Burnham is waiting to be
- 0:41Speaker 1: anointed Britain's PM.
- 0:43Speaker 2: But the King of.
- 0:44Speaker 1: The North's first real test is solving the United Kingdom's
- 0:48Speaker 1: cost of living crisis while controlling a fractious backbench. Our
- 0:53Speaker 1: always hilarious UK politics expert Richard Ferguson is here in
- 0:57Speaker 1: just a moment.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Well, they say a change is as good as a holiday.
- 1:09Speaker 1: And what Britain's really need right now is a holiday
- 1:11Speaker 1: from the nightmare that their politics have become. One of
- 1:14Speaker 1: our UK politics experts is Richard Ferguson, the Australian's Canberra
- 1:17Speaker 1: Bureau Chief. Richard, bringing in Andy Burnham and chucking out
- 1:21Speaker 1: Keir Starmer, surely that's going to make everything better in Britain.
- 1:23Speaker 4: I think the proof is yet to be in the pudding, Claire,
- 1:26Speaker 4: but you have to see Andy Burnham... returned to Westminster
- 1:31Speaker 4: after several years as Manchester Mayor to.
- 1:34Speaker 5: A heroic welcome.
- 1:36Speaker 4: There were all these, the sea of Labour MPs that
- 1:39Speaker 4: wanted to have a selfie with him in.
- 1:40Speaker 5: The Great Hall.
- 1:41Speaker 4: He walked into the House of Commons and everyone was cheering.
- 1:45Speaker 3: We now come to underburn a member from Makerfield.
- 1:52Speaker 4: It really was the King of the North has come
- 1:54Speaker 4: down to London and saved us all.
- 1:56Speaker 2: His train was late though, I heard.
- 1:59Speaker 5: Yes, he will.
- 2:00Speaker 4: I mean, but this is why he's going to nationalise
- 2:02Speaker 4: the railways and save everybody.
- 2:04Speaker 5: I can't wait.
- 2:05Speaker 7: To which Keir Starmer will say, actually, I started to
- 2:09Speaker 7: nationalise the railways, but nobody noticed. This is the last
- 2:14Speaker 7: time I ever get to do my Keir Starmer impersonation
- 2:16Speaker 7: for the rest of my life.
- 2:17Speaker 1: I hope you've been working on your Andy Vernon impersonation.
- 2:20Speaker 1: I know, I know.
- 2:21Speaker 4: It's really Manchester accents and Glasgow accents don't seem to
- 2:24Speaker 4: go together.
- 2:25Speaker 5: So I've got some work.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Well, you're going to have lots of fodder, I think,
- 2:29Speaker 1: because they say he's the King of the North.
- 2:31Speaker 2: He's from Manchester.
- 2:32Speaker 1: He's just been elected in his kind of home patch,
- 2:34Speaker 1: the seat of Makerfield, where he did surprisingly well, even
- 2:38Speaker 1: though Labour's under assault from Reform UK and an even
- 2:42Speaker 1: further right-wing party. called Restore, Andy Burnham surprised everyone by
- 2:46Speaker 1: really romping at home and he hopes that that's going
- 2:49Speaker 1: to deliver him straight to 10 Downing Street.
- 2:53Speaker 4: We must now.
- 2:54Speaker 3: Take this path and put this country back on the
- 2:58Speaker 3: right path and bring people back together and get things
- 3:02Speaker 3: working properly again.
- 3:05Speaker 1: There's talk of waiting until after NATO and various other
- 3:08Speaker 1: things and doing an orderly handover in September.
- 3:11Speaker 2: That's not a good idea, is it?
- 3:12Speaker 4: Well, that appears to be Keir Starmer's last act of
- 3:14Speaker 4: revenge against Andy Burnham. He's created quite a long timetable,
- 3:18Speaker 4: about three weeks up until the 9th of July, where
- 3:21Speaker 4: anybody could try and get the numbers to challenge Andy Burnham.
- 3:25Speaker 5: And then you.
- 3:26Speaker 4: Have almost a three-month period until he's actually prime minister,
- 3:30Speaker 4: if there is a challenge.
- 3:32Speaker 8: And I will do everything I can to ensure an
- 3:36Speaker 8: orderly handover of power. I will also give my successor
- 3:41Speaker 8: my full and unequivocal support, knowing that they will inherit
- 3:45Speaker 8: a Britain that is far stronger and fairer than the
- 3:49Speaker 8: one I inherited two years ago, better prepared for the
- 3:53Speaker 8: challenges ahead, and better able to ensure the Labour Party
- 3:56Speaker 8: secures a second term in office.
- 4:00Speaker 4: Now, Wes Streeding, the former Health Minister, was the most
- 4:05Speaker 4: likely Blairiter right-wing challenger to Burnham who's on the soft
- 4:09Speaker 4: left he has now come out and said I will
- 4:12Speaker 4: be backing Andy Burnham all the way clearly because he's
- 4:14Speaker 4: been offered a big job maybe Chancellor of the Exchequer
- 4:18Speaker 4: but if Andy Burnham does go ahead unchallenged he's the
- 4:24Speaker 4: only person to nominate for the Labour leadership he will
- 4:27Speaker 4: be Prime Minister you would imagine in the middle of
- 4:30Speaker 4: July But even that's a long time. That free week
- 4:35Speaker 4: still creates a long period in which people stop asking
- 4:38Speaker 4: what's going on with Keir Starmer and start asking what's
- 4:41Speaker 4: going on with Andy Burnham, a man whose only plan
- 4:44Speaker 4: appears to be that he's smilier and a bit sexier.
- 4:48Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Well, that's something in politics.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Now, Britain's been here twice before in the past generation alone.
- 4:56Speaker 1: David Cameron resigned after he didn't get his way on
- 4:59Speaker 1: the Brexit vote and Theresa May took over.
- 5:01Speaker 2: She subsequently lost her majority.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Boris Johnson got a huge majority in 2019, but the
- 5:07Speaker 1: party forced him out in 2022. And Liz Truss came
- 5:11Speaker 1: in after him. She lasted just 49 days and you've
- 5:14Speaker 1: made great fun of her. You do a good Liz
- 5:15Speaker 1: Truss impersonation too, Richard. What does history tell us about
- 5:19Speaker 1: whether this is a good idea or not?
- 5:20Speaker 5: Well, I think that sometimes it can be a success.
- 5:22Speaker 4: Theresa May to Boris Johnson actually was a great success
- 5:26Speaker 4: in the short term because Boris Johnson was everything Theresa
- 5:30Speaker 4: May was not. Charismatic, able to connect with people, able
- 5:35Speaker 4: to connect with those parts of the countries that voted
- 5:37Speaker 4: for Brexit. Sounds a lot like Andy Burnham, doesn't it?
- 5:40Speaker 4: There are three types of leadership contenders. The bleeding obvious.
- 5:46Speaker 4: The anybody but that bloke. and the rank outsider. Andy
- 5:50Speaker 4: Burnham is the rank outsider. He is not part of
- 5:53Speaker 4: the cabinet. He is not part of the Westminster bubble,
- 5:56Speaker 4: despite the fact he used to be a long-term part
- 5:59Speaker 4: of the Westminster bubble when he was a minister for
- 6:02Speaker 4: Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.
- 6:05Speaker 5: And then he's quite similar in that respect to Mark Carney.
- 6:08Speaker 4: Mark Carney, replaced Justin Trudeau, who was really struggling after
- 6:11Speaker 4: 10 years in office. He'd been the governor of the
- 6:14Speaker 4: Bank of England, the governor of the Bank of Canada.
- 6:16Speaker 4: He was not a part of the establishment. And he
- 6:19Speaker 4: is the clean broom who came in and he won
- 6:22Speaker 4: an election for the Liberal Party of Canada, which nobody
- 6:25Speaker 4: believed he would win. He's since then managed to pick
- 6:29Speaker 4: off members of the Canadian Conservatives to come and join
- 6:32Speaker 4: the Liberals to create a majority.
- 6:34Speaker 5: And The clean broom is usually the best way to go.
- 6:41Speaker 4: If you can't go that way, you do go for
- 6:44Speaker 4: the bleeding obvious, which is the heir apparent.
- 6:46Speaker 5: That's your Paul Keating. That's your Julia Gillard.
- 6:48Speaker 4: That would have been, I think, Angela Rayner in the
- 6:51Speaker 4: British context if she had not fallen to that tax scandal.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Turmoil in British politics today as the UK's deputy prime
- 6:59Speaker 3: minister is forced to resign. Angela Rayner referring herself to
- 7:03Speaker 3: the independent ethics advisor after admitting to not paying enough
- 7:08Speaker 3: stamp duty tax on a personal property.
- 7:10Speaker 4: If you can't get someone from outside, if you don't
- 7:13Speaker 4: have an obvious successor in the cabinet, that's when you
- 7:17Speaker 4: end up with the anybody but him term.
- 7:20Speaker 5: And I think Theresa May was a bit of an anybody.
- 7:22Speaker 4: But him, except she was anybody but Boris Johnson, who
- 7:25Speaker 4: fell apart after Brexit. You have Scott Morrison's a bit
- 7:30Speaker 4: of an anybody but that bloke, you know, came up
- 7:32Speaker 4: through the middle.
- 7:33Speaker 5: It worked. He was a bit of a new broom.
- 7:36Speaker 4: But then it became clear that he had no kind
- 7:38Speaker 4: of base within the party.
- 7:39Speaker 5: And it was very superficial.
- 7:42Speaker 4: And that's when it all fell apart from him and
- 7:44Speaker 4: he ended up being, you know, losing to Anthony Albanese
- 7:46Speaker 4: in the way that he did.
- 7:48Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 7:48Speaker 1: And in the meantime, voters had started becoming nostalgic for
- 7:51Speaker 1: the ones that they hated before, for Tony Abbott and
- 7:53Speaker 1: for Malcolm Turnbull.
- 7:55Speaker 2: The same with Rudd-Gillard.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Rudd, you could kind of argue that changing leaders is
- 8:00Speaker 1: worth the price that you pay in terms of credibility
- 8:02Speaker 1: and trust from voters because you eke out your time
- 8:05Speaker 1: in politics. And if you are a diehard believer on
- 8:09Speaker 1: one side of politics or the other, you're all about
- 8:11Speaker 1: just getting into power and getting some change done. I
- 8:14Speaker 1: don't think anyone in the Albanese government would regret the
- 8:16Speaker 1: years that they spent in power in the Gillard government,
- 8:19Speaker 1: for example, now. But is it really worth it? Is
- 8:22Speaker 1: it worth having a few extra years in government? I'm
- 8:25Speaker 1: talking now about the good of the country. And in
- 8:27Speaker 1: Andy Burnham's case, his choice is either sit out the
- 8:31Speaker 1: prime ministership for as long as he can or go
- 8:33Speaker 1: to an election as soon as possible?
- 8:35Speaker 2: What do you think he will do and what should
- 8:37Speaker 2: he do?
- 8:38Speaker 4: Well, he has promised the Labour MPs, of which there
- 8:41Speaker 4: are a lot, thanks to Keir Starmer, there is a huge,
- 8:44Speaker 4: huge majority, much bigger than Boris Johnson's, only one MP
- 8:47Speaker 4: short of Tony Blair's 1997 landslide against John Major. He
- 8:53Speaker 4: has promised them not to go to an election because
- 8:55Speaker 4: most of them will lose. A good chunk of them
- 8:58Speaker 4: will lose. Now, it is clear that the Burnham victory
- 9:02Speaker 4: in Makerfield really took.
- 9:04Speaker 5: The wind out of Nigel Farage's sails.
- 9:09Speaker 9: Andy Burnham wins the Makerfield by-election by more than 9,000 votes,
- 9:16Speaker 9: handsomely beating Nigel Farage's Reform Party.
- 9:20Speaker 4: And there was another by-election, which no one else is
- 9:22Speaker 4: talking about, in Aberdeen, where the Tories actually won a seat.
- 9:26Speaker 5: Imagine that, the Tories winning a seat in Scotland.
- 9:29Speaker 4: But they won that because they were seen as the
- 9:31Speaker 4: more serious alternative and they made that into a referendum
- 9:34Speaker 4: on oil and gas. So it is clear that people
- 9:38Speaker 4: across Britain are voting tactically to avoid a Nigel Farage government.
- 9:44Speaker 5: That might not work in the end.
- 9:46Speaker 4: There might be enough of a push, especially if things
- 9:48Speaker 4: don't go well for Andy Burnham in the short term.
- 9:51Speaker 4: But Andy Burnham is now in a very strong position
- 9:55Speaker 4: where he doesn't have to go to an election. He
- 9:58Speaker 4: can go to an election whenever he wants It's in
- 10:00Speaker 4: his choosing. He has three years of MPs who are
- 10:03Speaker 4: giving him a lot of goodwill.
- 10:06Speaker 5: And he has a very weakened Nigel Farage.
- 10:09Speaker 4: It may end up being that the winner of all
- 10:11Speaker 4: this is the Tory leader, Kemi Badenoch, who's starting to
- 10:14Speaker 4: make some headway with right-wing voters in against Farage and
- 10:19Speaker 4: who may benefit from Andy Burnham going hard left and
- 10:23Speaker 4: spending too much money.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I really wonder though, Richard, if the backbenchers in the
- 10:27Speaker 1: Labour Party are going to be Andy Burnham's problem.
- 10:29Speaker 2: I mean, they were Keir Starmer's problem.
- 10:31Speaker 1: They didn't show him much gratitude for having called themselves
- 10:33Speaker 1: into Parliament in the first place. They crushed his attempts
- 10:36Speaker 1: to do the kind of welfare reform that analysts in
- 10:39Speaker 1: Britain say is needed if they're going to pay for
- 10:41Speaker 1: a high defence budget and get the debt down. he
- 10:44Speaker 1: was humiliated again and again, and ultimately now they've abandoned
- 10:47Speaker 1: him completely. Doesn't Andy Burnham have to get those people
- 10:50Speaker 1: under control if he's going to achieve anything that makes
- 10:53Speaker 1: Labor look credible whenever an election is held?
- 10:56Speaker 4: I think he does, but that's the difference between Andy
- 10:58Speaker 4: Burnham and Keir Starmer, which is that Keir Starmer's problem
- 11:03Speaker 4: appears to be that he refused to talk to people.
- 11:06Speaker 5: He didn't even talk to his own cabinet.
- 11:09Speaker 4: An interesting point When he resigned, the Prime Minister did
- 11:13Speaker 4: not tell his staff in Number 10 that he resigned.
- 11:16Speaker 5: His chief of staff did it.
- 11:19Speaker 8: I want to thank the brilliant Number 10 staff and
- 11:22Speaker 8: our country's extraordinary civil service who dedicate their lives to
- 11:27Speaker 8: public service.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Keir Starmer really didn't have any interest in his party.
- 11:32Speaker 4: He didn't really have any interest in doing politics. He
- 11:35Speaker 4: saw himself as a bureaucrat. He might be a very
- 11:38Speaker 4: good head of the cabinet office, but that doesn't make
- 11:40Speaker 4: you a prime minister.
- 11:42Speaker 1: At two ends of the political spectrum, Richard, there seems
- 11:45Speaker 1: to me from a distance to be a big sense
- 11:47Speaker 1: of unease in Britain. On one end about violent crime
- 11:50Speaker 1: and that some people, for example, Nigel Farage from Reform,
- 11:54Speaker 1: blame on high immigration and a problem generally with small
- 11:58Speaker 1: boats and high immigration in the country causing angst. On
- 12:02Speaker 1: the other end of the spectrum, there's been a perception
- 12:04Speaker 1: that the government of Keir Starmer is way too woke,
- 12:06Speaker 1: that they struggled on issues like puberty blockers, that they
- 12:09Speaker 1: struggled to identify what a woman was, that there was
- 12:11Speaker 1: a suppression of civil liberties by police officers showing up
- 12:15Speaker 1: in people's houses and arresting them for Facebook posts. Where
- 12:18Speaker 1: is all of that sort of ideological unease? Where does
- 12:22Speaker 1: Andy Burnham sit in all of that, given that he's
- 12:24Speaker 1: on the serious left of the Labor Party?
- 12:26Speaker 2: Is he very woke?
- 12:28Speaker 4: Well, this appears to be where Andy Burnham's pragmatism has
- 12:31Speaker 4: kicked in. Many people in his faction of the Labour
- 12:35Speaker 4: Party despise the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, who has introduced
- 12:40Speaker 4: Tony Abbott-style tough immigration policies. And he has decided to
- 12:45Speaker 4: back Shabana Mahmood. He has made it clear he will
- 12:48Speaker 4: not be changing her policies. She's very likely to stay
- 12:51Speaker 4: as Home Secretary, if not promoted to Chancellor. She's another
- 12:55Speaker 4: person being talked about, Chancellor. But he has been very
- 13:00Speaker 4: pragmatic on immigration in that seat. He has walked back
- 13:05Speaker 4: his previous statements that he'd like to rejoin the European
- 13:07Speaker 4: Union because it was, as we said, it was such
- 13:09Speaker 4: a huge leave seat maker field. He has been quite
- 13:14Speaker 4: pragmatic on that. The trans issue isn't one he's really
- 13:18Speaker 4: dealt with. It will be interesting to see how that goes.
- 13:21Speaker 4: Part of Keir Starmer's huge problem has not been voters
- 13:25Speaker 4: going to reform.
- 13:26Speaker 5: It's been voters going to the Greens.
- 13:28Speaker 4: This is Anthony Albanese's worst nightmare, which he managed to
- 13:31Speaker 4: kill off in 2025, right? And that the Greens have
- 13:34Speaker 4: been sitting at like 15% in the polls. At one point,
- 13:38Speaker 4: they were ahead of Labour in the polls. Zach Polanski,
- 13:41Speaker 4: the Greens leader, who is a absolute quack, but charismatic,
- 13:46Speaker 4: has been very successful. But Andy Burnham did a fantastic
- 13:49Speaker 4: job in Makerfield of making sure everyone that was voting
- 13:51Speaker 4: for the Greens and the Liberal Democrats voted for Labour.
- 13:54Speaker 4: And in a first-past-the-post system, there are no preferences flowing
- 13:58Speaker 4: to him. He just needs to get those voters back.
- 14:01Speaker 4: So if he gets the Greens voters back on his left,
- 14:03Speaker 4: that's actually going to help him electorally.
- 14:09Speaker 1: What are voters looking for from Andy Burnham in the next.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Weeks and months, Richard.
- 14:15Speaker 4: I think ultimately, as Neville Rann once told Bob Hawke,
- 14:19Speaker 4: all they care about is the content of their wallets.
- 14:22Speaker 4: We can talk about woke issues. We can talk about immigration,
- 14:26Speaker 4: the murder of Henry Novak. That didn't appear to work
- 14:28Speaker 4: for Nigel Farage in Makerfield, where he lost by 20 points.
- 14:32Speaker 4: All of these issues are salient, important issues that people
- 14:35Speaker 4: care about. But ultimately, it is petrol, the price of bread,
- 14:40Speaker 4: the price of milk. This is why Pauline Hanson is
- 14:43Speaker 4: doing well in Australia at the moment, because all of
- 14:46Speaker 4: those three things are too high. And if Andy Burnham
- 14:50Speaker 4: doesn't do anything about cost of living and goes and
- 14:52Speaker 4: just puts up people's taxes, then that.
- 14:56Speaker 5: Is how he's going to lose.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Richard Ferguson, thank you very much.
- 15:00Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Richard Ferguson is the Australian's Canberra Bureau Chief. The Australian
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