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Killers Amongst Us: Murder on the Waxworm Farm (part 5) · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
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  Speaker 1: the production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. The search is
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  Speaker 1: on for Lois Reese, who has left a trail a
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  Speaker 1: mile yye. All she needs now is a new driver's
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  Speaker 1: license and somebody's car. Whose car will it be? I
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace? This is Killers amongst Us the death of
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  Speaker 1: Pamela Hutchinson, found basically her medically sealed in the bathroom
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  Speaker 1: there at her resort condo and leaving caught on video surveillance.
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  Speaker 1: Is Lois Reese actually wearing Pam's hat. The two met
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  Speaker 1: at a local oyster bar. At the bar, hit it off,
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  Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, Hutchinson allows her to
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  Speaker 1: come home with her. Why did she do this? I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you why. She wanted to be free. She wanted
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  Speaker 1: to gamble, and she needs somebody else's money to do it.
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  Speaker 1: That's why all she needs now is a new driver's
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  Speaker 1: license and somebody's car. Take a listen to Dave Mack
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  Speaker 1: Crime online dot com. Where is Lois Reese? Lois Reese
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  Speaker 1: was in Texas less than a week after she befriended
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  Speaker 1: and killed Pamela Hutchinson in Fort Myers Beach. By all accounts,
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  Speaker 1: the Minnesota woman was making a new friend, just like Hutchinson,
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  Speaker 1: at a restaurant, Liam's in South Padre Island. You know
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  Speaker 1: South Padre Island. That's just a hop, skipping and jump
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  Speaker 1: from the Mexican border. Guys, joining me right now is
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  Speaker 1: a very special guest, special in so many ways, not
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  Speaker 1: just because of her persona, her personality, but because she
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  Speaker 1: is lucky to be alive. I'm going to call her Jane. Jane,
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  Speaker 1: how did you meet Lois Reese? I met her at
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  Speaker 1: Liam's restaurant one evening. I was at the bar and
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  Speaker 1: she came into the restaurant and said, well, I guess
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  Speaker 1: we're both eating alone tonight. I mean, she struck up
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  Speaker 1: a conversation, so we talked. She said that back to Florida.
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  Speaker 1: She said, she's a widow and I'm a widow. We
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  Speaker 1: had that in common, and she said she was down
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  Speaker 1: there for property. She said that she was speaking for
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  Speaker 1: her husband and that her family was not allowing her
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  Speaker 1: to gree properly. So we just had a big conversation
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  Speaker 1: over dinner that night. Now wait a minute, let me
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  Speaker 1: let me understand this. Okay, you're at Liam's Did you
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  Speaker 1: say Liam's restaurant? Staurant? But I was sitting at the
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  Speaker 1: bar in the restaurant, just like Pam Hutchinson, Cheryl McCollum.
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  Speaker 1: Are you hearing this? He has a clear m o. Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: This is how she operates and working Again. You scour
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  Speaker 1: the bar in the restaurant, you see somebody the right
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  Speaker 1: age group, the right hair. You approach her, and of
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  Speaker 1: course you're going to be overly friendly. That's when people's
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  Speaker 1: defenses go down. Just like a lot of child molesters,
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  Speaker 1: they're not mean to the children. They give them gifts,
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  Speaker 1: they're kind to them. Otherwise you can't capture them. That's
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  Speaker 1: what she's doing. It is twisted, but it worked back
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  Speaker 1: to who I believe to be Lois Reese's next intended
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  Speaker 1: murder victim. I'll call her Jane. Jane, what color is
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  Speaker 1: your hair? I'm a brunette naturally, so it was brunette now, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. Jose Scott Morgan and ashi Willcotter hat still
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  Speaker 1: having their cup of hot tea are you keep put
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  Speaker 1: down your china cup for a moment and let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about the facts. Joe Scott Morgan true Jane is brunette.
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  Speaker 1: But we know Lois Reeese have been changing her hair
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  Speaker 1: color to change her appearance, right, Yes, yeah, absolutely, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's almost like she's chameleon like she's going
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  Speaker 1: to adapt to whatever kind of environment. All she needs
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  Speaker 1: is kind of a rough template to work from, and
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  Speaker 1: she sees that that's what's so scary about her, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: because you know how Cheryl had mentioned just a moment ago,
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  Speaker 1: how she kind of walks into this area and surveils
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  Speaker 1: the entire area and picks the person that she wants
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  Speaker 1: to be at that moment in time. And these people
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  Speaker 1: have the ability to kind of watch mannerisms, voice patterns,
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  Speaker 1: all the sort of thing, and the physical is just
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  Speaker 1: kind of whatever as long a she's in the basic
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  Speaker 1: template and then she can adjust to fit that template
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  Speaker 1: on the road. And just say, you know, Cheryl McCallum,
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  Speaker 1: Louis Reese had a brunette driver's license. ID Absolutely, I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you, Nancy, this woman at her chosen profession was
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  Speaker 1: a pro. Do you remember Jim Birch with a GBI, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: He trained us when I was a real young, up
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  Speaker 1: and coming weed and seed person, and he used to
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  Speaker 1: tell us to go to the grocery store pick somebody
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  Speaker 1: walk past them looking their buggy, walk back to them,
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  Speaker 1: and start a conversation just based on what was in
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  Speaker 1: that buggy. And here's what you learn about people. If
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  Speaker 1: they're throwing a party, you know it. If they have
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  Speaker 1: a young baby, you know it. If they're single, you
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  Speaker 1: know it. So you can start a conversation just by
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  Speaker 1: the items and that buggy, you already know something about them.
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  Speaker 1: And what's funny about human nature is people will often
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  Speaker 1: open up to a complete stranger. So these women are
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  Speaker 1: saying they've lost their husbands, this is why they're eating alone.
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  Speaker 1: They're you know, they don't live far from here. They're
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  Speaker 1: telling her things about their private life that she ends
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  Speaker 1: up using against them. And of course, overwhelmingly static statistics
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  Speaker 1: show that perps violent felons are men most often. So
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  Speaker 1: you let your guard down when you're approached by a woman.
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  Speaker 1: Back to our special guest, Jane, not her real name, Jane,
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  Speaker 1: could you tell me one more time about you sitting
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  Speaker 1: there at the bar of this restaurant and Lois Reese
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  Speaker 1: comes up to you. She came in, she saw that
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting alone. She said, well, I guess we're
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  Speaker 1: both having dinner alone this evening, or we're both dining
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  Speaker 1: alone like that. So then we started talking what would
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  Speaker 1: she talk about? What would she talk about? Jane, she
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  Speaker 1: had said that she just came back from Florida, that
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  Speaker 1: she was a widow that down in Texas looking for property.
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  Speaker 1: She was thinking about relocating. Um, she was grieving over
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  Speaker 1: her lost husband and her family not allowing her to
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  Speaker 1: grieve properly. So that's why she wanted to get away
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  Speaker 1: from her family. And so that we just I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about a lot of things after that, But
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  Speaker 1: did you have dinner together? Well, yes, I'm eating the
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  Speaker 1: process of eating. And she came in and she ordered something,
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  Speaker 1: and um, we just talked talked to the bartender. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he was our way server, So we just kind of
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  Speaker 1: all kind of got into a conversation. He wouldn't hear
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  Speaker 1: what we were talking about, and he would kind of
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  Speaker 1: join in, and you know, so question what did she order?
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  Speaker 1: To remember what she had? I can't remember what I had? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: she had like the to the tartar you know has
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  Speaker 1: the avocada and the onion, because I remember her telling
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  Speaker 1: me that it was had too much onion. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what I remember her eating. You have a good memory.
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  Speaker 1: And did she pay for it with cash or credit card?
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  Speaker 1: She paid cash, and she pulled out a big water
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  Speaker 1: cash because I never carry cash. I'm always using my
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  Speaker 1: debit card. She had a big hand cash. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: don't you just love the details? Back to Sheryl McCollum,
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  Speaker 1: because that cash is that five thousand dollars she stole
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  Speaker 1: from Pam Hutchinson's ATM account. That's right, And it's the
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  Speaker 1: way that they can't track her. She's not leaving a
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  Speaker 1: footprint anywhere or anybody's debit card or credit card. The
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  Speaker 1: other thing, Nancy, I promise you where this future victim?
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  Speaker 1: And I believe she was the next victim too. She
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really remember the conversation, she said, they were just talking.
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee you she navigated that conversation to learn things
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  Speaker 1: about her, To learn that she lived alone, to learn
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  Speaker 1: that you know where exactly she lived, whether she was
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  Speaker 1: still working, whether or not she had adult children nearby.
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  Speaker 1: She was learning is she going to be an easy
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  Speaker 1: prey for me? That's what she was doing totally, And
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  Speaker 1: you know what you can find out, So much if
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  Speaker 1: you just ask the right questions and take time to listen. Jane,
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  Speaker 1: what happened next, Well, we closed out our tag and
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even have dessert. No, m okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Were y'all drinking alcohol? I don't really remember glass of
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  Speaker 1: wine or something, and she probably did too. I don't know, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right. I had asked her if she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: ride back from her hotel, because you know, a woman
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  Speaker 1: by herself, it's I just don't think it's safe. She
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  Speaker 1: was walking everywhere. I dropped her off at the Motel six,
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  Speaker 1: and we did exchange numbers because she texted me a
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  Speaker 1: few days later and she wanted to meet me meet
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  Speaker 1: up with her again for just a dessert or something.
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  Speaker 1: So don't believe I did go that time, but I
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  Speaker 1: did go, like the following Friday. I actually was fighting
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  Speaker 1: at thirteenth the next time that we met at Limb.
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  Speaker 1: So how was that initiated? The next time that you met?
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  Speaker 1: How was that? How did that come about? I think
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  Speaker 1: we just texted back and forth about so you guys
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  Speaker 1: meet up again. What happened, Well, we went to dinner
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  Speaker 1: at Limbs, and she paid for my dinner, and so
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  Speaker 1: I guess you had said something about she didn't really
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  Speaker 1: like South Padre either in that month, because she was
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  Speaker 1: part of getting Sandy and Habit to take two showers,
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  Speaker 1: and I told her that she might like my air
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  Speaker 1: it's close to the beach, you know, it's like thirty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Family oriented and anyway. So I guess that's how she
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  Speaker 1: ended up back at my house because I was going
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  Speaker 1: to show her around my area, and so we went
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  Speaker 1: in the hot tubs. She had her bathing suit with
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  Speaker 1: just bought a bathing suit and a little fun at um.
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  Speaker 1: So we went le me in my hot tub, and
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  Speaker 1: then she spent the night. The next morning. Whoa wait,
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  Speaker 1: wait wait wait, wait wait wait, don't bury the lead.
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  Speaker 1: She spent the night in your place. Yes, you never
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  Speaker 1: once picked up a crazy vibe. No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: She was self trusting. Man, she's good. It was good.
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  Speaker 1: I had the security cameras in my house, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that might have scared her a little minute. Thank
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  Speaker 1: goodness for those security cameras. You go to sleep, where
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  Speaker 1: is she in the next room. She's like on the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the house. So you wake up the
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  Speaker 1: next morning and what happens. I took it at breakfast,
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  Speaker 1: and we drove her round area and show her houses.
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  Speaker 1: And when I brought her back to her motel, did
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  Speaker 1: you ever see her again? No? I didn't see her.
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  Speaker 1: We tried. We exchanged someone numbers. When I called her,
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  Speaker 1: somebody else was on that line like this is Stormy
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  Speaker 1: in me a message. There was a last but I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember what it is. That's when I picked up
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  Speaker 1: this woman is not who she says she is. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there you go, right there, straight out to you, Joseph
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  Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, that one foam as as you may have
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  Speaker 1: saved Jane's life. That was the alias she used in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when she was trying to quote rent a home
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  Speaker 1: from test Coster. I e get test Coster alone and
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  Speaker 1: killer and squat in her house and then leave. She
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  Speaker 1: used the name Stormy. Remember, oh yeah, And you know
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  Speaker 1: we were talking. This is really interesting that this has
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  Speaker 1: come up because remember what we were talking about a
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  Speaker 1: few moments ago, Nancy, this patterned behavior that you have,
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  Speaker 1: and she thinks that she's the puppet master and that
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  Speaker 1: she's orchestrating everything and all it takes. You never know
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  Speaker 1: how that one little stone thrown into the pond is
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  Speaker 1: going to send out ripples, and it just could offset
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  Speaker 1: the balance of things where she readjust and has to
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  Speaker 1: go into another direction. This woman is very, very, very
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  Speaker 1: lucky to be a lot Jane. When you heard the
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  Speaker 1: answer machine say, Hi, this is Stormy, leave a message,
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  Speaker 1: what did you think? I thought it would very shay,
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  Speaker 1: And I said you had a name? She called herself Donna.
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  Speaker 1: To me, that was the name that she gave me, says,
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  Speaker 1: I go by Donna. Donna. She said, I go by Donna.
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  Speaker 1: And you called and the message was said, Hi, this
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  Speaker 1: is Stormy. What did you do? I just sant to
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  Speaker 1: questioning yourself, like who is this person? Or I don't know?
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  Speaker 1: I was speaking all kinds of things. Did you think
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  Speaker 1: that maybe you may have misjudged her character at that time?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really know what just kind of shot that,
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  Speaker 1: do you have a different name? Did you ever get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to ask her about it? I never saw
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  Speaker 1: her again. You know, it's funny how one tiny chink
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  Speaker 1: in the armor can ruin the whole battle. Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to this. The State Attorney's Office in Lee County, Florida,
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  Speaker 1: has released hundreds of pages of documents detailing the murder investigation.
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  Speaker 1: The cases are strikingly similar. Pamela Hutchinson found dead almost
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  Speaker 1: the exact same way as Lois Reese's husband, David, both
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  Speaker 1: found on the bathroom floor with a towel draped over
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  Speaker 1: their heads, both shot with a twenty two caliber bullet.
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  Speaker 1: Reese visited the home of an another Blooming Prairie resident
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  Speaker 1: who lives in Fort Myers Beach a portion of the year,
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  Speaker 1: the visit taking place a week before Reese allegedly killed Hutchinson.
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  Speaker 1: Terese Costra says she saw a woman walking around the
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  Speaker 1: edge of her property and recognized Reese because they had
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  Speaker 1: known each other for fifteen years. Costra says Reese put
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  Speaker 1: her head down and applied wronghouse before leaving. Documents say
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  Speaker 1: Reese also befriended a woman in San Padre Island, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: shortly after Hutchinson's death and just a few days before
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  Speaker 1: her arrest. Reese even slept in the woman's guest bedroom.
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  Speaker 1: The woman said Reese appeared completely normal. You're just hearing
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  Speaker 1: our friends at KAA LTV ABC six News. The search
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  Speaker 1: is on for Lois Reese aka Stormy aka Donna, who
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  Speaker 1: has left a trail a mile wide across the country.
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  Speaker 1: She ends up in South Padre Island, Texas, just a
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  Speaker 1: skip and a jump twenty seven miles to the Mexican border.
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  Speaker 1: All she needs now is a new driver's license and
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  Speaker 1: somebody's called whose car will it be with us? Jane. Jane,
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  Speaker 1: befriended by Lois Reese, even lets her sleep in her
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  Speaker 1: guest room, saying Reese appeared completely normal, asking her about
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  Speaker 1: her family getting into her home, getting into her car.
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  Speaker 1: What does that tell you, Cheryl McCallum, It tells me
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  Speaker 1: again this woman is very good at her con. When
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  Speaker 1: you run a con, nancy like if I was working undercover,
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  Speaker 1: I have to be from a southern state. I can't
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  Speaker 1: fake that. I can't get rid of that. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of what she did was true and authentic. She had
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  Speaker 1: a son, tan, she dyed her hair, she was grieving
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  Speaker 1: her husband. She killed him, but she was grieving him.
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  Speaker 1: Those things rang true. But then she changes some things,
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  Speaker 1: like her name, her address, things like that. Where she
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  Speaker 1: keeps the con going. So what she's doing is she
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  Speaker 1: goes from Lois to Stormy to Donna. Once the last
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  Speaker 1: murder would have happened, she would have also dropped Stormy.
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  Speaker 1: That person wouldn't exist anymore. She would go from Donna
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  Speaker 1: to somebody else, like Stacy or something. And where does
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  Speaker 1: she turn up? About twenty miles from the Mexican border,
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  Speaker 1: South Padre Island, Texas, enjoying a meal at a bar
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  Speaker 1: seeded amongst a group of women. Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 1: US Marshall's arrested Rees about twenty five minutes after getting
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  Speaker 1: a tip that she was inside a restaurant on South
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  Speaker 1: Padre Island, Texas. Authorities also found nearby the car she
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  Speaker 1: had stolen. Now, South Padre Island is a beach resort
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  Speaker 1: less than thirty miles from Mexico, and authorities were concerned
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  Speaker 1: she was going to cross the border. She's been on
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  Speaker 1: the run since late March, when police say she killed
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  Speaker 1: her husband in Minnesota that made her way to Florida.
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  Speaker 1: That's where Lee County deputy says she killed Pamela Hutchinson
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  Speaker 1: earlier this month, assumed her identity and stole her car.
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  Speaker 1: Reese has been sighted several times since then, including in Ocala, Florida, Louisiana,
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  Speaker 1: and Corpus Christi, Texas, but she has not been apprehended
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  Speaker 1: until now. Last night, authorities released this new surveillance video
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  Speaker 1: to show Reese at a convenience store in northern Iowa
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  Speaker 1: last month. She is seen approaching the cashier, buying a
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  Speaker 1: sandwich and asking for directions. The store is right next
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  Speaker 1: to a casino where authorities say re spent most of
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  Speaker 1: the day gambling. Police say she was gambling she has
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  Speaker 1: a gambling problem. US Marshall's arrested Rees about twenty five
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  Speaker 1: minutes after getting a tip that she was inside a
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  Speaker 1: restaurant on South Padre Island, Texas. Authorities also found nearby
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  Speaker 1: the car she had stolen. Now South Padre Island is
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  Speaker 1: a beach resort less than thirty miles from Mexico, and
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  Speaker 1: authorities were concerned she was going to cross the border.
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  Speaker 1: She's been on the run since late March, when police
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  Speaker 1: say she killed her her husband in Minnesota that made
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  Speaker 1: her way to Florida. That's where Lee County Deputy says
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  Speaker 1: she killed Pamela Hutchinson earlier this month, assumed her identity
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  Speaker 1: and stole her car. Reese has been sighted several times
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  Speaker 1: since then, including in Ocalla, Florida, Louisiana, and Corpus Christi, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: but she has not been apprehended until now. Last night,
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  Speaker 1: authorities released this new surveillance video to show Reese at
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  Speaker 1: a convenience store in northern Iowa last month. She is
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  Speaker 1: seen approaching the cashier, buying a sandwich and asking for directions.
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  Speaker 1: The store is right next to a casino where authorities
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  Speaker 1: say re spent most of the day gambling. Police say
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  Speaker 1: she was gambling. She has a gambling problem, sitting at
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  Speaker 1: a restaurant at the bar in a group of women.
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  Speaker 1: When you look back on this, Jane, what do you think. Well,
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  Speaker 1: right now, I'm safe, but I found out that I
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  Speaker 1: refrained by a serial killer. You know my heart just
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm still freaking out about it. And every
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  Speaker 1: time we talk about freaked out. So I'm very careful
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  Speaker 1: now who I talk to. You were spared, You were spared, right,
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  Speaker 1: Louis Reese on the search for her next victim, her
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  Speaker 1: next twin doppelganger, so she could get one more car
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  Speaker 1: and one more ID to cross that twenty miles across
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  Speaker 1: the Mexican border. Join me now is a very special guest.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Tess Coster and test knew Reese in
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota and saw Reese in Florida, befriending Pam at the bar.
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  Speaker 1: They were eating at the bar, and it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: she was wooing a boyfriend. She would look directly into
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Pam's face and they would talk and laugh. She just
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: met Pam Hudgeson at this bar and somehow connived her
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  Speaker 1: way over to pam condo where Pam was murdered, and
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  Speaker 1: left the towel stuck up under the door so the
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  Speaker 1: stint of a decomposing body would not seep out of
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  Speaker 1: the condo and alert authorities. But they found out, and
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  Speaker 1: you're right. The video shows Lewis Reese leaving the condo
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  Speaker 1: wearing Pam Hutchinson's hat, getting into Pam Hutchinson's car and leaving.
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  Speaker 1: And she used that ID and those credit card, that money,
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  Speaker 1: the car, all of Pam Hutchinson's to make it across
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  Speaker 1: the country, staying in hotels, ordering room service until she's
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  Speaker 1: apprehended just thirty miles from the Mexican border, chatting up
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  Speaker 1: another woman at an upscale restaurant bar, probably her next
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: intended victim, because she needed another ID in car to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: get across the Mexican border. What do you think about that?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Theory of mind test Coster. I think you're right on
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  Speaker 1: the dot with that. That's exactly what she had planned.
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  Speaker 1: And I am so thankful that that Gal is still
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  Speaker 1: alive today because her plan was to do it all
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  Speaker 1: over again to get across the border. Feel that poor
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  Speaker 1: Gal's car and ID and murder her and probably the
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  Speaker 1: same emo again as with Dave and Pamela put her
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  Speaker 1: in the bathtub, towels under the door, opened the window.
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  Speaker 1: So yes that that Gal has to just think her
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  Speaker 1: lucky stars. You know, I'm just thinking about him dying
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: over the money to gamble. Pam Hutchinson died to get
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: money in a car. Other people's lives mean absolutely nothing
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to her. They are just a means to an end.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Their lives have no value at all. And I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: about Lois Race crossing the country and her husband dad
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: husband's Cadillac Escalade, and then Ham Hutchinson's stolen car. That
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  Speaker 1: would bother me that I'm driving their car, using their
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: credit cards and money after I kill them. I mean,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: did any of that even a glint of that ever
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  Speaker 1: shine through? Yeah? Where's the remorse? I can't imagine. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, could I myself could never do any of
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: those things in the first place, But you would have
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: so much remorse, how could you continue on? What do
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: people back in Blooming Prairie think of all this? Most
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of them don't want to talk about it because this
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: is such a nice, great little tone and this is
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: such a sad story to have attached to our tone.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Let'll tell you what you would never I mean, what
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: was her reputation before all of this? Nice, sweet, happy,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: go lucky person loved kids, you know, had the daycare,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: went bowling with the bowling she was on the bowling team.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: The bowlers all loved her. I don't know where the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: personality switch came in. We are talking to a friend
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: of Lois Reese, is so called serial killer. Losing Lois
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: test cost her who many people, including law enforcement, believe
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: was scheduled to be Lois Reese's next murder victim. Tess,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: When you go to bed at night and say your prayers,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I bet you think back on the time you were
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: almost murdered at the hands of a serial killer. I do.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I'm very grateful that I'm still here today. What does
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: your husband say about all this same thing? He says, Honey,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that could have been you. Horrible of us because we
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: are together an awful lot to Killen Thompson, KIMT News
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: three Rochester. Where now the lowest Reese has been arrested?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Where does the k stand? The lowest Reese undered a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: guilty plea in Dodge District, Dodge County District, Cord in August,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and she was immediately sentenced to life without prole You
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: know it makes you wonder, right Jane, every time he's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: sit down at a restaurant and somebody sits beside you
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: about killers amongst us. Who would have ever suspected this
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: was a serial killer, Jane, Well, certainly not me, killers
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: amongst us. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye for