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Healing the Mother-Daughter Bond: Navigating Love, Fear, and Legacy | FT Wynika Williams | EP99 · Jess Ask

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  Speaker 1: Yo, it's your girl, Jessica and Smith, and you already
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  Speaker 1: know that you've entered the safe space for influencers to decompress.
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  Speaker 2: Have fun and just ask God for another day? Do
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  Speaker 2: you already know what it is? And then you know
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  Speaker 2: it's about to get real?
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  Speaker 1: To be sure to show your girl the love and
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  Speaker 1: like coming and subscrabe God.
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  Speaker 3: For another day.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, I know we could be another way.
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  Speaker 5: Yea, Since Sily my burdens down, glory, glory hollering you,
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  Speaker 5: Since SII my bird burdens down, don't tree me no
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  Speaker 5: like they use to.
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  Speaker 3: My last shi sidely Mine burn down. Friends, don't tree me.
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  Speaker 5: Like they used to sin sidely Mine burn down.
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  Speaker 3: Come on.
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  Speaker 6: This morning.
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  Speaker 3: They don't know about Kenny w baby he used to friends.
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  Speaker 5: Don't tree baby my My daddy was over praise and worship,
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  Speaker 5: but shaded grove seeing me church. Sometimes he had the
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  Speaker 5: rocking and.
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  Speaker 3: Leading praise and worship.
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  Speaker 5: That's where I got my extra from. Okay, But if
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  Speaker 5: you don't know where you're at, you in the same
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  Speaker 5: place where influencers can decompress, have fun and just ask
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  Speaker 5: Such a girl.
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  Speaker 3: Jessica and Smith and I am here with the lovely
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  Speaker 3: does a right? Does a raid? Does a raid? Does
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  Speaker 3: a raid? Does a raid? Doesn't rade? What sucks? Y'all
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  Speaker 3: listen listen. This is they don't know. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they really like this school.
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  Speaker 5: Don't know about that school, not not the the layer
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  Speaker 5: burdens down or a good I surrender all.
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  Speaker 3: Victory. Victory is mine, yes, victory is mine. Victory today
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  Speaker 3: is mine. Yes, I told say that, get together behind
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  Speaker 3: victory to day is mine.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, listen, now if we go down that road, listen, listen, Hey.
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  Speaker 3: I starting to feel my help and now happenings since
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  Speaker 3: my baby. You can, baby, when you that's a decree
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  Speaker 3: in Clarence, I don't. I don't. That's what I grewed
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  Speaker 3: up on. What about you this?
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I grew up you said seeing that? You
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  Speaker 5: said seeing me? Yes, I was seeing me. I grew
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  Speaker 5: up missionary Baptists. You know what I'm saying. So you
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  Speaker 5: know we. I grew up on a little charge to keep.
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  Speaker 5: I have a God to glory calling saying to serve
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  Speaker 5: this present age, my calling to fulfill. Okay, good, I
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  Speaker 5: never got I got a charge to keep and a
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  Speaker 5: calling to fulfill everything.
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  Speaker 3: In the middle, they.
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  Speaker 5: Always had a deacon that was missing teeth or his
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  Speaker 5: dishes were to be so you can never understand what
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  Speaker 5: he was saying.
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  Speaker 3: And then he.
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  Speaker 5: Had either a bald head or fuzz in the middle
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  Speaker 5: with everything and it was no lineup. You can never
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  Speaker 5: see where it started, but you could see the shape.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: Those were the anointed deacons. I don't know the anointed
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  Speaker 5: deacons that smoke cigarettes. They would they smoked the cigarettes,
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  Speaker 5: but would pray heaven down at the altar after Sunday school. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: now I'm not talking about my church. I'm actually talking
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  Speaker 5: about my Grandmama church. We gotta risk your soul just
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  Speaker 5: to then. But I am talking about my grandded my
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  Speaker 5: Grandmama church, because they would tell that a charge to
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  Speaker 5: keep up every Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, okay, you know it ain't gonna lie.
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  Speaker 5: For a long long time, I thought they were saying, hey, Charles,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like.
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  Speaker 3: Who is Charles and why they trying to keep him?
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  Speaker 5: What he at?
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  Speaker 3: Where is Charles? But you know it's a charge to
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  Speaker 3: keep I have.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't never heard nobody say they thought they was oh,
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  Speaker 6: my God speaking of a community in Charles, Lord Jesus,
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  Speaker 6: y'all ready for this community highlight.
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  Speaker 3: That's where we're at.
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  Speaker 5: We're at a community highlight, and we have a special
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  Speaker 5: community highlight. We have one of our community members that
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  Speaker 5: are just just blessing us with her support like she
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  Speaker 5: is phenomenal. We both know her personally through Coach d
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  Speaker 5: and the unchurched community that's being built. I'm just super
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  Speaker 5: excited and super grateful for her. Malitra Johnson, Listen, you
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  Speaker 5: are special to God like you are like the apple
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  Speaker 5: of God's eye, and we are so thankful and so
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  Speaker 5: grateful that you are. You decided to live this one thing.
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  Speaker 5: Malitia has a story. Malitra, don't look she does not
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  Speaker 5: look like what she's been through. And so I'm just
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  Speaker 5: excited for you, Malitra. I'm excited for what God is
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  Speaker 5: doing for you. I'm excited for the plans that He
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  Speaker 5: has for you, the plans to profit prosper you. And
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  Speaker 5: not only I hear the Lord say, I'm not just
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  Speaker 5: keeping you in this season. I am prospering you in
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  Speaker 5: this season. It was a season where you said, God
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  Speaker 5: just keep me. It was a season that you just
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  Speaker 5: said God just keep me. But you you're over that season.
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  Speaker 5: You're in the season of prosperity. Come on, my God,
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  Speaker 5: and may he continue to blow your mind as you
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  Speaker 5: prosper my God.
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  Speaker 3: And so even as to you.
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  Speaker 5: As to you, I hear the Lord say, as whatever's
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  Speaker 5: to you is unto your children. And so even that
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  Speaker 5: that that DNA that runs through them, the legacy, your
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  Speaker 5: legacy shall be prosperity in the name of Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: So Malitra, we love you over here, just as the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Let's show our girls some love.
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  Speaker 5: That's played out. That played out you did. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 5: you did so well on it. I'm learning, baby, I learned.
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  Speaker 5: I'm learning these fades and things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because that the chop off was not getting it.
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  Speaker 3: We get we find a mutual ground. We're growing.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, progress over perfection, speaking of progress over perfection. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: the guests that we have when I say definition of
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  Speaker 5: progress over perfection, girl, bad girl, y'all can hear her
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  Speaker 5: laughing right now because you think I'm just playing, But
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  Speaker 5: I'm real when I say this, Okay, my girl, that
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  Speaker 5: we have on here tonight is dangerous, bro. Like I am.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so glad when God was like I was just
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  Speaker 5: randomly minded my b is you know how I normally
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  Speaker 5: do desiray, and the Lord was like text her and
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  Speaker 5: Tellor is time.
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  Speaker 3: I think she can She's gonna confirm that.
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  Speaker 5: She's gonna confirm that if I said that, because I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to be no liar, but I say, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's time. And I just sent her the calendar link
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  Speaker 5: because it was it was no way that the season
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  Speaker 5: that she's in, the elevation and the it's almost like
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  Speaker 5: the pace and the urgency that's needed for Oh, I'm
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  Speaker 5: I feel my health, the urgency that's needs needed for
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  Speaker 5: her in this time. God is really like like just
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  Speaker 5: putting a a another gas pedal. It's almost like two
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  Speaker 5: gas pedals that's being placed down on the Accelerate. That's
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  Speaker 5: the word I'm looking for, Okay, Acceleration is all over her,
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  Speaker 5: her life, her creativity, her brand, her visibility.
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  Speaker 3: Hallelujah.
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  Speaker 5: I just feel like the Lord is elevating her and
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  Speaker 5: accelerating her in this season.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm just honored that she's here.
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  Speaker 5: She's an author, she's from she's from Louisiana Museum.
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  Speaker 3: Right, y'all gonna hear that that.
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  Speaker 5: The dialect y'all. Yeah, baby, I love talking to her.
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  Speaker 3: Just I just listen.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited about listening. Also, she's a mother, she's a wife,
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  Speaker 5: a proudest. Maybe she loved her husband. Okay, I love
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  Speaker 5: a good wife that love her husband. Baby, she she'll
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  Speaker 5: shut it down for him, okay. But she loves being
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  Speaker 5: a wife. She loves being a mother. But most importantly,
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  Speaker 5: she loves being a child of the king and the
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  Speaker 5: daughter of the daughter of the most times. So I
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  Speaker 5: present to Somemon introduce to others, my girl, my homie.
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  Speaker 3: Why Niko William.
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  Speaker 5: She dead, y'all, she's so cute, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Here, Hey, how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I am just amazed. Thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for having me. Girl. You got me over here
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  Speaker 2: about to cry, You got me over here about to
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  Speaker 2: turn up. You got me over here yourself. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna every check right now. But I'm so excited. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much for having me. Thank you. That's a ray,
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  Speaker 2: the des a ray.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on doing. You got the flow, You got the flow,
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead and do it.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Yes, come on, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. I see you girls, de devil love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it, y'all.
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  Speaker 5: I promise you'll. I'm gonna stop her every time she says, so.
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  Speaker 3: I just, I just I don't get you.
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  Speaker 5: I love people from Louisiana with that that dialect. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: So two things I said if I was if I
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  Speaker 5: was a different ethnicnicity, I want to be Hispanic.
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  Speaker 3: I love Hispanic people and their culture.
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  Speaker 5: And then also if I could talk like something like
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  Speaker 5: have a dialect, Oh, Nalla baby, what up?
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  Speaker 3: Nalla baby?
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I would love I would
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  Speaker 5: love to say like I was from New Orleans because
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  Speaker 5: I just feel like, y'all, it's just something like, it's
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  Speaker 5: just something about it.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yes, honey, I want.
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  Speaker 2: It, and I'm gonna have to get you together because Louisiana,
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  Speaker 2: even though New Orleans is in Louisiana, it's two different
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  Speaker 2: places people. It's different from Bad roy Tree, Port Afa Lusis,
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  Speaker 2: you know, northern Louisiana. New Orleans is his own police.
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  Speaker 3: So and I felt like you was from New Orleans.
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  Speaker 5: But then I was like, oh lord, I don't up
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  Speaker 5: is bad Rouge either, because because bad Rouge people be like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not from New Orleans, I'm from bad Rudge.
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  Speaker 3: Like so I said let me just keep it on
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  Speaker 3: the state. So baby Nola, baby all d yes.
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  Speaker 5: Ma'am, we get we get. We getting all the flavoring, okay,
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  Speaker 5: all occasion seasoning, but we're getting were getting all of
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  Speaker 5: it today.
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  Speaker 3: Sis, tell us, tell us how you feeling, ma'am. You
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  Speaker 3: look good.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Girl. I'm just everything that you
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  Speaker 2: just said. It is just like, Wow, that's the season
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  Speaker 2: where God has me at because there is a demand
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  Speaker 2: for me in this season and God is just like,
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  Speaker 2: show up, step out, be visible. And I'm just like, Okay, God,
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  Speaker 2: I'm out here, you know, and I'm gonna confirm you.
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  Speaker 2: You text me, you text me, and you was like, look,
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  Speaker 2: it's time. And the tears begin to just roll and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what what you mean? Did you send me
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  Speaker 2: to Canada link? And I'm just like, wow, like it's time,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So I'm so excited. I'm just amazed that
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  Speaker 2: what God is doing, even through your platform and just
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  Speaker 2: for even a little ranch like me to be here,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so thank you.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm excited.
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  Speaker 5: I know that when when certain people are called certain people,
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  Speaker 5: there's something that's a demand that's on the platform. Right,
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  Speaker 5: So we're in this Yes, three sixty five campaign, which
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  Speaker 5: means like giving God our years every day? Right, And
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  Speaker 5: I like to start off that off with that with
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  Speaker 5: you because you've been in a season where you say,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, God, this is not the time for me.
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  Speaker 3: To do that. But lately you've really leaned into your yes.
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  Speaker 3: What has that been like for you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? It's been hard, right, because saying yes to God
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  Speaker 2: is more than just you know, it's me giving him
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  Speaker 2: permission and access to my life. You know, because sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you can want to just take control of the steering
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  Speaker 2: wheel and say, Okay, God, I'm gonna let you do
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  Speaker 2: this or I'm I'm aa do it is. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to give you I'm not gonna surrender totally.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm in a season where it's just like, guy,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you say goals, because I can't do it by myself.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you need me over here, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: if you're telling me to do this, I'm going I'm
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  Speaker 2: in complete surrendering. So it's whatever you say over my.
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  Speaker 3: Life that's so good.
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  Speaker 5: What what held you back from surrendering fully? Because I
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  Speaker 5: know that you just said giving your years to God
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  Speaker 5: now looks like surrendering fully So what did that look
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  Speaker 5: like when you weren't surrendering, surrendering fully.
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  Speaker 2: Fear, pride, feeling as if I knew the plans and
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  Speaker 2: the purpose that I had for my life and God,
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  Speaker 2: you know, whatever you want me to do, I get
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  Speaker 2: to it later. And oh wow, even when I decided
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  Speaker 2: to step out in the beginning, the enemy is he
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  Speaker 2: used to terment me, right, And so a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people they can feel as though if I'm obedient to
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  Speaker 2: God and the enemy that's gonna, you know, put a
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  Speaker 2: mark on me, right, and I don't want the warfare
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  Speaker 2: and the hell that's gonna come along with it. And
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  Speaker 2: so a lot of that had to do with me
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  Speaker 2: just being like, no, I'm gonna do it my own way.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I just be like, you know what, guy,
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  Speaker 2: you you triumph over the enemy me? What I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: him for? What I'm getting the tax cart? Because sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you can just go through so much and you can
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  Speaker 2: feel as if you know, but but God is God
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  Speaker 2: is God, and so I just got to be obedient
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  Speaker 2: to him anyways. So that's that.
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  Speaker 3: I love that. I love that I remember.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if it was a personal conversation or
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  Speaker 5: like one of those conversations, you know, how we just
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  Speaker 5: be together, We just be talking, right. I can't remember
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  Speaker 5: if it's there or if I saw it on your platform.
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  Speaker 5: One of the things that I understand that we have
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  Speaker 5: in common is that there is annointing for the bloodline
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  Speaker 5: breaker on our lives. And I know my audience here
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  Speaker 5: or our community here is my version of it. But
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  Speaker 5: I love to hear different versions and aspects of it.
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  Speaker 5: So I want to tap into that portion of you
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  Speaker 5: real quick, because my understanding is it's we talk about Nola,
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  Speaker 5: but Nola has a principality of witchcraft, and you've been
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  Speaker 5: open about that experience. Can you tell us about that
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  Speaker 5: and what's the warfare? What does that warfare look like
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  Speaker 5: coming against? Is that witchcraft in your own bloodline or
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  Speaker 5: it's just in the community, Like, what does that look
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  Speaker 5: like for you? And how did you, out of all
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  Speaker 5: of your bloodline become this this, this woman of God,
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  Speaker 5: this preacher and not delve into that.
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 6: That is.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. That's a lot. So New Orleans we are known
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  Speaker 2: for witchcraft, right, And it was just yesterday me and
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  Speaker 2: my girls who were in the French Quarter and we
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  Speaker 2: was walking around and they had the people out there
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  Speaker 2: with the terror cards in the fort tending they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to call us to the table, but I'm over that
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  Speaker 2: praying and I'm pleading the blood of Jesus and my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: like min, can't we go? So like, I'm always combating it.
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  Speaker 2: And it was definitely in my bloodline, and before I
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  Speaker 2: got saved, I never really dabbled into it darkly, but
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  Speaker 2: you know as far as like some stuff unknowingly we
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  Speaker 2: participating in witchcrab right yeah, and I, oh, my god,
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  Speaker 2: should I even shell this eye? Married into a family.
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  Speaker 4: That that does it.
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  Speaker 2: So with me, I'm always I've seen it behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it, you know, up close and personal. But
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  Speaker 2: my sirn is to God, and so I just thank God,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because when I see it, He's educated me
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  Speaker 2: on it, so I know how to break the altar.
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  Speaker 2: I know, you know what to do and what not
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  Speaker 2: to do, and you know, educating my children and how
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  Speaker 2: to close these doors and how to renounce it and
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  Speaker 2: how to you know, even repent for you know, my bloodline,
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  Speaker 2: because even if I didn't open up the door for it,
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  Speaker 2: I still have to repent so that guy can go
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  Speaker 2: back and cleanse my blood nine back, you know, those
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  Speaker 2: previous generations that did entangle themselves with that. And I
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  Speaker 2: remember my grandmother. She always would saying, like, you know, people,
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  Speaker 2: they will put hexes on her and all kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know, So that stuff is real and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people think that it's just it's play, but it's
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  Speaker 2: very real. And so I don't play anything about that
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  Speaker 2: concerning and stuff. But I just thank God that even
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  Speaker 2: when I tried to run from him, he been called
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  Speaker 2: me since a little girl, and so even when I
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: tried to run, I couldn't run far. And so I
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  Speaker 2: just thank them, girl.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're so good. So my I heard the Lord say,
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  Speaker 5: don't don't take it by chance that people know what
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  Speaker 5: witchcraft is. So can you explain what witchcraft is and
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  Speaker 5: how people can know if they're in it, like what
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  Speaker 5: sign to look for, because like you said, some stuff
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  Speaker 5: we don't even know is witchcraft and we be playing
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  Speaker 5: around weed.
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  Speaker 2: Well Lord, so all right, so for instance, the people
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  Speaker 2: with the spiritual baths and the crystals, like crystals and
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  Speaker 2: all that that that's new age, but it's still witchcraft too.
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  Speaker 2: Terror card readings, anybody that's participating, Like I've seen a
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  Speaker 2: lady post on threads, and she said, whoever's playing with
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  Speaker 2: my boodle dog, can you just put it down for
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  Speaker 2: a season? And she said it so casually, but I
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  Speaker 2: was so grief because I'm like, this lady don't even
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  Speaker 2: know what she's saying, right, And she's an influencer out here,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like wow. And so anybody that's participating
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: in voodoo dolls and you know, witch doctors and they
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: have people that go to witch doctor psychics like all
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: of that. They have Christians that participated in that stuff.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: They called out the name of Jesus. They go to
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: church on a Sunday shout and do all that. And
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: then on a Saturday night they at the sitting up
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: there with psychics and stuff. So you know, it's so
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: many different ways that you could just open up the
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: door to witchcrafts. So it's a lie. It's a lie.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: What's interesting is you bring up like the witch doctor
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: or whatever. And I recently found out. I'm not gonna
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: say what's that about it, but one of my grandmothers
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: went to a witch doctor because she she was trying
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: to figure out what was going on with her. She
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: was trying to figure out what was going on with
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: her because she was her body was being attack, but
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: the doctors couldn't figure it out. What come the gag is?
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Come to find out, another woman that wanted my grandfather
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: put a spear on her.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: And I was when I.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Found this this stuff out, I was like, why y'all
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: not telling us a little bit earlier like this they're
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: supposed to be doing this.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: My prayer life would be a little bit different, man,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: if y'all would just let us know this stuff is
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: really like going on.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: But a good a good witch. That's when I say
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: white witch was telling her that the lady went because
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: you can't understand. She was like, this is why you're
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: not bail a better. So she and up the white
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: witch did whatever to my grandmother. Now mind you, my
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: grandmother is a professed Christian, was a professor Christian.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: So it's like wait, you know, like hold up, wait,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: we went to another witch for what? Another witch? Did
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? So did we ever get better?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: For real?
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Like that?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I got question?
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: Just so when you bring up like the witch doctors
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that, there's levels I guess to witchcraft,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: and we only thinking about it on one end of
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: the spec like the most extreme negative end of the spectrum.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: But it's certain things that even us as Christians except
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: as witchcraft. Do you have examples of things that we
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: accept as Christians that would be identified as witchcraft?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Well, Lord, they gonna get me. But even when you
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: identifying as like the astrology and stuff like that, right,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: all of that God never called us to be geminized
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and scorpios and all of that stuff. And so when
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: you identify with that, you're taking on those personalities of
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: those deities and you're claiming to measure your own. You know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: people sprinkles saw that your door and just just when
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I tell you, it's so much spiritual baths and you're saying, oh,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put this spell on this man, you know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: to make him fall in love with me. And you're
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: putting stuff in your food, and you're burying stuff in
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: your backyard and you're gonna get you chicken blood, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you're you know, performing all different type of rituals. And
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: even if you go to uh they like they have
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: these different concerts that that you'll go to not knowing
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that they're performing a stay on. So they're they're open
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: up domonic portals and so now you in that atmosphere
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: knowing you have no business in there, and now you
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: don't open up the door to the enemy. And so
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: it's so deep here. We pass by the cemetery of
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the mortuary all the time, and so my children they
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: know we don't play that. And so while all of
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: my daughter and her friends they want to go in
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the cemetery for Halloween, to go to the horning house
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and stuff, my daughter's sitting outside, Mike, can you pray
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: for me? The other And so it's just so many
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: different ways that you can open up the door to
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the enemy. And he makes this like this generation is
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: desensitized to witchcraft. It's all over Disney, it's all over everywhere.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: So you'll never look at witchcraft as if it's something harmful, because,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: like you said, the white Witch, some people tell you,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: oh that's a good thing. It's a good bad witch.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: A witch is a witch, a witch is a witch.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Crap is witchcrab. So no matter which way you cut
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: the cookie, it's still witchcrap. It's still defouled me. It's
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: still in purity. When it comes down to spirituality, it's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: still contaminated because it's not pure because it doesn't come
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: from God. Anything that doesn't come from God, who or
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the spirit is contaminated.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: That's so good what you're saying, the stuff about Disney, right,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: let me tell you this what you can my uh.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: It was an instance where I was at my sister's
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: house and.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I was I was in her room and the TV
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: was on in the other room, and I wasn't really
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: paying attention to what they were doing. I had just
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: woke up from a deep sleep and all I heard
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: was an unfamili your noise. But I wasn't settled with
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: the sound, right, I wasn't settled with the sound, and
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: I screamed out. I said, what y'all watching? And nobody responded.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Everybody got quiet, because at the end of the day,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: they know TJ. They know TJ for speaking in tones
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: like my little brother be like what I say, what?
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Just go station like he'd be like hansomsu or hamasoms.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I'm like that, And so they already know. So it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: not like a surprise that I'm asking, Hey, what's going
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: on now? My sister's not my thing? My sister's doing here,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: or something like that one of their grandmothers is there,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: or something like that, and so I'm just like, okay,
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: I ain't get no response, but I'm still being disturbed
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: by this sound. And I come around the corner and
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: as I'm walking up and saying, hey, what are y'all
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: look listening to? I I get up to the TV.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: There is a witch movie on, like one of the
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Broomstone or whatever. Because we make we fold, say, clean
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: it up in a way. Disney cleans it up in
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: a way. It's like, yeah, this is this is just that.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I watched witch movies.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Hocus Pocus, that's the movie I watched when I was
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: when I was young. Didn't think nothing of it, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: but these these three witches was in a circle and
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: they singing their heart out like whatever they sing it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: And then you could see another scene where uh, somebody's
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: being like terrified or whatever on what's whatever they're doing.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I don't really care what's going on.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I saw enough. I said, he turn it off.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Turn it off.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: That's those are witches. We don't do witches in here.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: And that's not even my house, now, mind you. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: had to, you know, go to I went to kel.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, I don't want I don't want
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: to ever disrespect your home what you do in your
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: home day. But I just you know, the witches. I
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: just don't play with witches. She understood, you know what
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. And I had to explain to my niece
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: at the time because the Lord, the Lord was really
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: dealing with me on how I could.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Scare her.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: In that moment and with the lack of understanding, you
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: get what I'm saying, like because she didn't understand. All
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: she know is TJ popped off, like she just she
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: just got mad. And so in that moment, the Holy
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Spirit was like, just you have to go back and
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: explain to her why you did it. And so I
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: have this conversation. I don't have words for it. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: don't I don't have language for her understanding, right, but
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: I was leaning on Holy Spirit and I was like famn,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Like I say, do you understand? You know why I
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: just did this? And she was like no, And I said, Okay,
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to explain it to you. It's from
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: the best of my abilities. And I said, I'm so sorry.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I did not mean to scare you.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: However, we got to take those things seriously.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: What do those moments look like when you're trying to
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: explain it to your children, because you love your girls,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: like your girl's a beautiful shout out to your beautiful daughters.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: What do those what do those moments.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Look like when you're trying to explain those your children,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Because if we're going to tell them not to do something,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: I don't believe just saying hey, don't do this.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I believe in having a reasoning behind it. What does that?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Can you help us with language on that? And when
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: we're talking to our kids.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Listen, girl, when I love how you are with your niece,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and you know, holldly spirit told you to go back
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: because I'm wanting the parents when I see it, I'm
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: cutting it off. Yeah, And I am there. I'm very like,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I'm very loving and playful, and I sit there and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: explain stuff with them, But when it comes down to
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: witchcraft and spirituality and them opening up the door for
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the devil, I don't play, and so I'm very straightforward.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I don't especially that mommy is like the swoor comes out,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: and so I cut you know, because I want them
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to know just how serious it is.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: But then I do go back and I have those
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: conversations with them, just to let them know, like, hey,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: this is what it is, this is what we're not doing,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: and just trying to make them aware because the thing
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: about it is that even if they're not doing it,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the children at their school, they don't.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: My daughter had to sleep over one day, and so
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: it was like a month later. I went in a
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: room and I'm cleaning up from under her bed and
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this coloring picture head came from
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: under the bed and I'm like, what is this? And
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: it was a witch on the paper. I said, where
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: you get this from? She said, my friend drew it
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: at school. And then I'm like, wow, oh my god.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And so I have to be very conscious and careful,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: like my daughter is this thing now where she's taken
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: little items from her friends at school and she's bringing
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: them in the house and I want them. People don't
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: bring nothing in my house if I don't buy it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Your dad like, don't bring it in my house. You
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: know there are spirits and things connected to this stuff,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: and so I'm very conscious of that. I don't allow
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: them to watch certain stuff on TV. It's so funny,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and the enemy knows all of this stuff, right, but
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: he be testing my patience just to see like if
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back on some stuff. But I'm not.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: My daughter. She does hair, and so there was this
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: witch that actually booked au appointment and came to home
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: to get her hair done. And so guy had already
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: told me who the woman was before she got there,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: and so I'm like, okay, well how you want me
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: to handle it? And it wasn't until she began to
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: like open up and try to talk to my children.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: That's when I told him like, look, babe, you gotta go.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Half wasn't even half o her head done, but I
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: was like, look, you gotta go. I I don't play that.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I don't you know, allow that. I'm not about to
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: allow you to open my children up to this, So
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: you gotta go. So I put her out Just recently,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I put her out there and she had to go
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: no with my line on my.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Ear listen listen because you say and not solved.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: And I saw baby and I stay strapped.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Watch well.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: But just recently, my daughter wanted to go to the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: movies with her father, and so usually when she gets
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: ready to go, she'll tell me, hey, we're gonna go
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and see XYZ so this time she didn't tell them this.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, hey, what y'all going to see? And
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: she said Wicked. And when I tell you, I couldn't
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: hit the floor. Just I was like what. And so
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: she was like, it's not that serious. It's just a movie.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And this is seventeen year old now, and I'm like,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: but you know, I don't play this like no, And
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: so I had to get in contact with his mom
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and tell him. You know, to some maybe it's just
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: a movie. But to me and my house, maybe we
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: serve the Lord. We don't play that. We're not gonna
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: open up the door to the devil. So it's just
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: so many ways. When it comes down today, you gotta
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: be just straightforward with them and let them know because
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the enemy walks around lurk and trying to see who
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: he made the vowel, and if we give him access,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: maybe he gonna come here full full fledge.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I got a question, So, how do you respond to
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: those people who may say, oh, it's not that serious, yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: you being too deep, or you know, it's just this
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: is just kind of like what it is, Like, how
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: do you Because I love the fact that you stand
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: on what you stand on right, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: But for some other for some people who may be
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: looking at it like, dang, why she's so hard, she's
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: so harsh, it's not that serious, Like how do you respond?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Or what do you?
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: What do you?
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: What do you feel? How do you respond to that?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I used to not say anything because I didn't want
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: to come off as that right, and so, and I
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: know that everybody walk is different, and so I used
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: to ask God, like, God, why is it that I'm
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: the one that just think everything so serious and everybody
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: else so leg to Daisy, and he just he had
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to strengthen me and my identity and who I am
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: in him so that I can be more confident, in
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: bold with the things that he's telling me. And sometimes
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: people don't even realize that they are walking in darkness,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and you know, because the enemy has blinded their minds,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and so if they're so contaminated, it's so you know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: they're in the pit. They're not gonna realize in the
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: pit playing with the pigs until they come out, you know.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: And you just gotta stand firm and just be like, look,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: this is what it is. This is what God told me.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Even if you want to say God or not, or
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: even just educate them, bring them, you know, because any
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: thing about it is a lot of them. They are
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: in the church, right they claim Jesus on Sunday, but
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: then Monday they live in this way. And so I
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: always go back the scripture. I always show them the scripture,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: even if they want to see it or they don't.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Because God word stands. His word overrides my worry anyway.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I can tell you whatever, you can tell me whatever,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: but if you claim that you live by this word,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna go by.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: M That's so good. I want to follow up question too,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: like what you were just saying, like the example that
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: you use with and just let it. You know, me
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: and Delirey are intrigue right now you're teaching us.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Well, how okay, let's say speaking on what Desibert says
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: like it's not their serious right? What a about the
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: woman that came into your home? Right you said that
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: they she started teaching or saying something to your to
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: your girls. How do I know, especially if I'm a
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: babe in Christ, how do I know what to look
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: for or listen to when I'm when I'm encountering witch.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: Crawd like, if if with the doing of the hair
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: and she's coming in, how did you know that outside
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: of just the Holy Spirit?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: What language was she using to identify herself as a witch?
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: So what she was?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: So she first came in and she so the way
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: my daughter looked at me, I was like, you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and so I just went sat down, and so she
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: was like, you gotta be kinder to yourself, you And
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what it? But my eyes is closed. She
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: never looked at me. She never looked at me face
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: to face. But she's she feels my presence walking in
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: and she's, you know, reading my spirit. And then she's
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: talking about the spirit and things like that, and so
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what spirit are you referring to? Because you
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: gotta know, you know, they in the Bible. It shows
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: us when guys talking about Holy Spirit, it's a capital X,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: it's not a lower kid's s. There are spirits and
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: there is Holy Spirit. So which spirit are you referring to?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And just listening, like you have to really listen and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: pay attention to what they're saying. Because even in the Bible,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: there was this girl running behind the apostles and she
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: was speaking with a familiar spirit. And so here's this
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: woman telling me things and it was accurate, it was accurate,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: but she was speaking from a familiar spirit. She wasn't
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: speaking from the Holy Spirit, you know. And so besides
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit, you will like you have to ask guy.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: You gotta have the Holy Spirit. You gotta ask for
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: him to shop your deserm it because it's so easy,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: like there is there's no black or w But a
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: lot of people get caught up in a great area.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's good.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: People.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: They get caught there and now they're entering into new
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: age and now they wondering why they're fighting demons and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: just so many different things, and they're being tormented and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: they won't even tell you. You know a lot of
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: people get tormented at night by demons and don't even
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: know how they come up out of that stuff. Right,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: But you just got an ex guy for you gotta
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: have discerned me, because if not what sounds good, all
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: of it sound good. But you can't go off of
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: what sound good. You can't go off of what you see.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: You gotta be able to see the spirit that's in
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: operation behind the person you are in the person.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: That's so good I just I honestly didn't even think
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: that we would spend a lot of time on witchcrad.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: But I guess the Lord is really trying to pull
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: this out. And also I hear the Lord say that
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: he trusts you with this area, like E been being
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: a staple of in this area of where teach, not
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: only teaching people, but coming against it is not. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: think it's not by having sins that you had to
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: come against it, and still sounds like coming against it
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: with your family members of you know this, this practice
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: of witchcraft. And so I just commend you, because I mean,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: to the to the people that have not really tangibly
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: experienced it, it's scary.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: To be honest with what I be hearing. I'm like, nah, fam,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if I want to go there.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with their Princeville. I don't.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: I don't want to lead us at that. But I
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: commend you.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: So I'm about to do a gentle switch because we
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: bring we're bringing up your daughters, and people could be like, oh, okay, no,
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: her daughters are beautiful. You are bringing them everywhere. I
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: just love how your relationship with your daughters is just
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: it's just like highlighted like in this season. Like I
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: know you loved your kids, you know before, but like
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: in probably the last twelve months at least, you have
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: really grown with them in a way. It's almost like
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: as you're teaching them, they are teaching you. Can we
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: dive into that because sometimes parents are not open to
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: learning from their children.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: How has that been for you?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's been a blessing. It's been a huge blessing
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: because like they are the new generation and if we
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: are so like, I don't know everything, and so I
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: lean on my seventeen year old to teach me so much.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: She not taught me about social media, She not told
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: me about everything, you know. See, she teach me the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: new hairstyles, like just so much. They're full of their
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: their creativity is on a whole nother level. These children
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: are wiser, they have more access than what we have.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm always willing and open to learn from them,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: even my eleven year old. I'm learning so much and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I just thank God for it. Because when we were
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: at the when we were in Birmingham and the unchurch conference,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: they were talking about socks and everything, and my daughter
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: was like, we talk about that at school, my seventeen
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: year old, and I'm like, what, like her and her friends,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: they have these conversations on the regular. So when I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: tell you, you gotta get around you know, the younger generation,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: because that's what I said. So I ain't afraid the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: eggs baby, they'd.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: Be tired of me.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: They said, you on the night, now teach me. No.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: I love that you highlight that because sometimes we can
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: limit kids, like we just like, oh, they're just so
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: cute and we just got to take care of them.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: But we don't take the opportunity to just kind of like,
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: can you teach me how to do this? Like my
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: niece I was telling you earlier, Oh annointed, her hands
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: are so anointed, like.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Just just wild, wildly.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Anointed, and so like just learning from her, like teacher,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: you don't need to do this, or you need to
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: put your phone like this so you needed it. I'm like, okay, girls,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: it's almost like she's corrected me. But I almost either
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: we have a choice to be like girl, get out
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: of my face, I'm gonna do what I want to do,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: or let me progress with the time, like because I
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: don't want to.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Be staggering this place.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: So, speaking of being staggering, the place you went from
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: hardly doing content, we really saw you had a podcast
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: and it was like, uh, sometime it would have to
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: Now you in full fledged.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Your camera look better than mine sets. I'm like, what
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: it's going on.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're a full makeup artistry, we're doing one
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: on ones. We're talking about the Lord and beaten faces
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: at the same time, Like, where did this shift come from?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Or was it always in you? And what's the plan
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: for it?
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful. So look, I've just joked out right now
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: because if I really did do a full shift. So
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: when I buried my mom and my son, I buried
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: my dreams, I buried my goals. Everything that I want
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: it is doing life. And so I just realized, like, look,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting any younger. I'm not getting any you know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: like the time's evolving and the things that I want
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to do, I'm not gonna be able to do this
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: on my job. I'm not gonna be able to be
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: in a place where I'm happy. And so I decided,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I say, you know what, Goud, I trust you. I'm
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: gonna just step out on faith and I'm gonna do
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: everything that I love to do, like I'm always seeing
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: you know, like makeup. I've been doing makeup since I've
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: been eighteen, So there's no reason for me not to
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: be out here doing something with makeup. And so I
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: decided to just step out on faith and I say,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna just start doing it on
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: social media. And then when my coach stop me and
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: she was like, my nigga, you do makeup and I'm like, no,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I've always tried to hide, and she was like, you
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: need to start doing it, you know. And so when
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: she said it, I was like okay. And then so
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: many people have already had always told me, and then
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, guy, I'm gonna just
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: be obedient and step out. I saw my daughter God
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: is doing amazing things through her in her business, Like
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: she's on social media as well doing hair and you
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: know guys always opening up doors and seeing her clients,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and so I'm like, you know what, let me step
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: out on fake. And so that's another thing to watching
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: my daughter her grind, her hustle, like the way she
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: shows up this summer. This girl was going to going
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: to school, going to band practice, still coming home doing content,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: doing YouTube, you know, and just doing running her business.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: And so she really inspired me to step out and
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I say, you know what, I'm gonna step out. I'm
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: gonna give it a goal. What's the worst that can happen?
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: And so the worst that you happen is just me
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: feeling like, you know, like why I keep doing this
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: every day? But I love it. I really enjoy it,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: and so I'm just excited about what God is getting
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: ready to do. When we were laying together, he gave
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: me a new name for my podcast, So don't prove
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: for me, you know, but this thing is just amazing
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: because I'm able to see so many women heal and
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: embrace their true identity and their authenticity and just tap
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: into the power of makeup and like really look at
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: themselves and love what they seek, you know. And God
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: had me in a season where he didn't even allow
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: me to wear makeup because he had healed me, you know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: cause he's like, look, you're trying to hide behind his mass,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Like I need you to heal for real. And so
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I went through a season where he wouldn't even allow
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: me to wear makeup. And now that He's allowed me
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: to like just come out full swinging and it is powerful.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: So they got some stuff in the pipeline, you know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: I'm working on So yeah, girl, you're definitely working on it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: I'm interested in knowing because I'm I know, Desert Ray
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: is more comfortable.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Does Ray is like a real cosmetologist.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Like she she went to school, she got a license
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: and everything like that, So she can't I ain't gonna
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: say she can't ask no questions, but she ain't probably
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: gonna ask me the questions out here. Okay, So what
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: is the what do you think is the biggest struggle
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: with makeup that women that you find with, Like when
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: you're interacting with different women, what is what do you
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: find that's the common denominator of the makeup experience.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Them not knowing how to apply it properly, or you know,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: them watching a million YouTube videos and still don't even
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: know the difference between the brushes and you know, not
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: know how to do it and confidently just show up
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: with the you know, because you can sit up there
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: and you can buy all the top notch make up,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: but if you don't know how to apply it correctly,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: then you right back. Well why so you know, then
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of them. I'm grateful because God has been
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: sending me a lot of women that they're just tapping
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: into makeup right. Yeah, it's it's like they got the
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: training wheel zone. So I'm excited about that. And that's
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: what I love, like women who never saw them themselves
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: in that way, because I was that woman that would
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: wear makeup, but I still never felt beautiful. I still
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: never felt you know, worthy, And so God is sending
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: me those type of women to pour into.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I love I love that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: That you just said that, because I feel like I
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: don't even know what brushes did, but it look if
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: it looked like it's gonna work.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I just be picking it up. I ain't gonna lie
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: to see you.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Like I like my I have a friend, her name
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: is Antoine. Shout out to my beautiful girl. She she'll
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: be like, oh, j just you did your makeup good today,
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: like you look you look good. And every time she
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: come with me, because I feel like she's so good
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: at everything, like she just can't mess up anything.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: That's how you are. And so anytime she say you
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: do good, I'm like, I don't know what I did,
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: but let me try to figure out.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know what brush I use, but no, it
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: can I feel like applying plant, applying makeup for me
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: because makeup is attached to femininity and for me, and
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: because this is a moment, I'm gonna be transparent because
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: I feel like I don't fully understand my feminine DNA,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: like meaning that like who I am. So I'm still
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: like feeling like discovering, like do I really like makeup?
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Or how do I you know, I want to be
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: that bad? You know, like how you you look?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: It looks like you effortlessly put this face on like
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: it's and all I do.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: I just put a little foundation on so my first
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: face won't be ashy, like so it looked it looked
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: like my skin the.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Same color, like that was the goal.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Please just get the same because I got like three
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: different colors on my face, like that was the goal.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: And so what do you what do you find out
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: like with women when you're doing these.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Coaching sessions like are you are you talking to them
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: and just discovering like how they identify what they do
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: identify in their femininity with how to identify as a
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: woman and how does makeup enhance.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: That or hurt it?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So God always sends me women to help them
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: enhance right in their area because I was the one
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: who was hurting in their area and I had to,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: you know, do it want eighty. But the women that
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: God is sending to me, like some of them there,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: they'd come out the lifestyle because there was a point
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: where I had to journey with my daughter through a
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: season of her life where she was identifying as you know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: what is a stun and so I had to journey
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: with her and bring her through the process of femininity
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: and things like that. But some women, they are able
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: to just see themselves more confidently and tap into their
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: femininity because a lot of them they just did work.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: In moms, they go to work, they go home and
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: take care of their kids. They don't have time to
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: pour into themselves, and so we are so focused on
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: pouring into everyone else, well we forget the poor into ourselves,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and then we're wondering why we angry? Are we dealing
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: with feelings of frustrations and all of these different things
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: and not realizing, like did you even take the time
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: to look in the mirror and tell yourself you're beautiful
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: or put some lipstick on up, you know, do something
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: for yourself. So I'm sitting there and I'm teaching them
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: not even just make up, but how to love on
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: them again, how to pour into their on cups, like
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: really ministering to their soul, you know, and bring healing
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: and wholeness. And then we're gonna work on the makeup.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: That's so good. Yeah, that's so good.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: I love that because you know, everybody, most women have
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: some type of idea image of what makeup is or
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: how they feel about makeup. So when you really just
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: begin to have conversations on why, and most of them
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: it's just, hey, I don't know what this is, right,
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: or I don't know how to apply this.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: But when you when you encounter women who.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: Wear a lot of makeup all the time, when you
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: begin to have when you really get down into the
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: deep conversations of who they are, a lot of times
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of them are using that to mask something else,
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: So I love that.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: You know, when God puts you in a space, when
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: you're when you're in a healed space to be able
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: to pour back into somebody to help them see the
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: beauty of who they are without it. Then once they
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: put it on, it allows them to see themselves in
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: a different light. You know what I'm saying, It's not
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: no longer. Hey, I need this because you know X,
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: Y and Z is no. No, this is I like
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: makeup because it helps enhance who I am naturally. You
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So I love, I love've been
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: watching some of your some of your content. I'm like, girre,
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: you better go.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Yeah.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: She Then you've been going offices like real talk like
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: like I said that camera cameraing, like you've been inspiring me.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: You say I inspire you sis, but you real dealp
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: and inspired me because it's like I don't know. It's
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: something about oh man, I feel like I'm about to cry,
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: so I know this is the word. It's something about
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: seeing mm hmm, don't have me about the cry child girl.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: It's something about seeing you do life with your daughter's intentionally.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: This just blesses me so good.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: People know that I've talked about, you know, not having
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: certain experiences with my mom, and people just don't know
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: how important that relationship is because I'm a thirty three
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: year old woman and I'm still healing from things I
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: didn't experience with my mom, Like I didn't ex I
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: mean I had a experience with my mom, but I
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: think about it with makeup. We went to mac and
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: she matched me. But just, uh, that's kind of that's
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: not the same thing. That's not the same thing as
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: being taught. You know, I'm not saying I'm the only
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: one that has had that experience. I haven't had that experience.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: But and my I love my mom. My mom is
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: a great you know, a great mom. She did the
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: best that she could, right, But just to be able
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: to see that you're you're feeding off of your children
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: and you're trusting them in a way that will uplift
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: them in the future, it just wonty could it blesses
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: me so good? Like and so sometimes I'm gonna be honest,
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: I have to pass by your country because it overwhelms
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: me in that place. And not in a bad way
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: of what I'm blaming you, but it's like, man, this
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: can actually happen, like this is real. I can actually
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: have this experience when it's time for me to be
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: a mom, Like some people don't have that reality, you know.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I just and the thing about it
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: is that the enemy, he has always come in between
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: a mother and a daughter because that's a powerful unit, right,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: That's a powerful relationship, and it's beautiful. And when you
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: begin to talk about your mom and your experiences with her, girl,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I just was sitting up here and I'm like, you know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I closed the casket on my mom and I was
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: with my Me and my mom had a very close relationship,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: and I was with her when she took her last break.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: But you know, in that moment, I'm like, God, like,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: why did you take my mama?
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Like I'm hurting and I'm just I feel a void.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: But I thank God for the memories. My mom walked
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: me down the aisle at my wedding, my mama and
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: my dad. My mom went dress shopping with me. My
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: mom always told me she loved me. She always hugged me.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: We will be in public and she would hold my hand,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: you know, And I'm like, girl, don't be doing all that,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: you know, But I see that I'm the same way
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: with my girls. And my mom always pray for us.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: And so even going back to when you ask how
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: are you this woman a guy right here and now,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: it's because that woman prayers. She did it because when
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I was out here acting the fool, doing whatever I
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: wanted to do. My Mama would be up in the
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: middle of the night in a seating for me, praying
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: for me, covering for me. And so that's how I'm
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: able to be who I am today. If it was
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: not for her, I would not be who I am.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And so my heart gets it frustrates me when I
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: see women treat their daughters a certain kind of way,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Like even when my daughters, when they make me mad.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: You don't think they make me mad their teenagers, of
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: course they do. But I'll never neglect them. I'll never
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  Speaker 2: talk bad to them, I'll never talk down to them.
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  Speaker 2: I'll never just treat them any kind of way because
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, their God's daughters, and
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want him to treat me like that. So
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna always uplift them, inspire them, and pull them
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  Speaker 2: up and let them know, you know that they are worthy,
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  Speaker 2: because I never want my children to have to heal
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  Speaker 2: from any of the things that I went through, and
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I thank God that they haven't. Like my daughter is seventeen,
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  Speaker 2: My daughter is gonna be the first graduate of my bloodline.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter is gonna be the first you know, so
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  Speaker 2: many other things, my daughter has never experienced any of
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: the trauma that I experienced, and I thank God for
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: that experience. So you will be an amazing mother. You
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  Speaker 2: will have that relationship with your daughters and your sons,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: and God is gonna bless you, know you. And even
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: going back when you were releasing that word over Malitra
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, I said, God, it's the
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: same word that you gave me at the beginning of
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: the week about your children. And so I just pray
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  Speaker 2: over you and your seeds that you will experience the
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: goodness and some guiding that you experienced the the goodness,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: the prosperity, the favor, and that it won't even just
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: be you and your children, but your children's children, and
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: they will see they will experience the favor of God
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: because of everything that you're doing right now. You're preparing
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: for your children's children's children children right now what you're doing,
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  Speaker 2: and they will be blessed.
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  Speaker 3: Man. Thank you. Literally last night, oh my gosh, I
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: didn't literally last night. I was talking to my sister Kendall,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: and I told her that the community that I'm in in.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: Everybody has experienced pregnancy, whether they've lost the child, like
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: a miscarriage, whether they experience abortion, they still know they
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: can get pregnant.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, we know I'm not a virgin on here,
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  Speaker 3: I've told you that.
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  Speaker 5: You know I'm not amergen. So let's get that over. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: Christian podcast. But my god, but even in that, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know. There's a there's a thing that tries to
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: play in my head that.
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  Speaker 3: I I don't I haven't gotten pregnant because I can't
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  Speaker 3: and and I try to.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I fight that sometimes because it's like
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: I'm thirty three years old, not married. I haven't even
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: it hadn't even happened on a well let me say this,
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: let me chuse word wisely, but it just hasn't happened.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: Like I haven't had a technical pregnancy scare, like things happened,
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: my body was changing. It's like, okay, let me take
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: a pregnancy boo boo boo. But I've never been pregnant
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: and had to have that fear. But at least in
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: the fear, I know I can get pregnant. That I
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: hope that makes sense or whatever. Like the curiosity is
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: am I fertile? Like?
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Am I? You know what I'm saying? And so for you,
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I say that, because for you to say that.
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  Speaker 5: Today, I'm just gonna take it as confirmation to the
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: insecurities that I have on even being a mom, not
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: the fact of being a good mom.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Will I even be a mom? God, I'm a mom? God? Like,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: is it part of my identity?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Is that part of my my my life and the
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: progression in my life? So I thank you for that.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I think you just don't even know how much I
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: needed that in that moment.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: So oh girl, and right quick, and I don't want
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: to cut you off. But the reason why is because
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: God wants your husband to be that experience you and
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: your husband to have those children, you know, because you see,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: you know other moms and their relationships and everything. But
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I could have deal with two baby days and I
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: got a husband, you know. And people laugh at me
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: all the time because if my daughter graduation and the
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: things she goes through, all three of them are in
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: the picture with me and her, like it's the whole,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: you know. But you know, I thank God that you
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: won't have to go through that, right that it'll just
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: be you and your husband and your children. You're you
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: and you are guide. So that's the reason why. So
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: don't even never allow the enemy to make you think
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: they yeah, you further, You're very further. Whatever it is
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: that you wanted, your heart's desire, God is gonna give
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: you that because you're obedient to him and the plans
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: and the purpose that he has for your life. So
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: God has no choice, He has a choice, but he
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: got He got you, girl.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: What was coming up while you were talking, Jess? The
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Holy Spirit reminded me of the story of Hannah.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: So, Hannah was married to al don't don't give me,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: don't give me to my names?
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: You know the Bible names be you know an Alkena. Yeah,
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: So they were married and the scripture literally says that
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: the Lord closed her womb. Right. There's other instances in
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: the Bible where it talks about women being barren, but
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: the scripture says that the Lord closed her womb. Right,
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: she's now she's so she's married, like, she living a
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: good life, like because he closed her womb, they couldn't
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: have children together at that time. So he had children
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: with Panama over there, right, So Banana was having all
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: the babies, right, So all of a sudden or not,
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: she begin to have a burden about a son all
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, right. The truth is there was culturally
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: Israel was was was out here life, and Israel was
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: doing the things that wasn't pleasing to God.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: So God was like, I need a solution in this earth.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: So the Lord put a burden on Hannah for a
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: son who was Samuel. Right, So just imagine if the
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: timing timing. It's all about timing, right, So just imagine
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: if you know she was able to have children at
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: whatever point in time, at the time that God needed Samuel.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: Samuel may not have been here, but because of God's
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: perfect timing his love, there was an agreement. She began
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: to intercede, she began to pray this thing through, and
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: now we have Samuel, who was one of the Bible's
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: most powerful prophets.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: So I keep holding on to that because you're thirty three.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: I'm finna be thirty nine, who have experienced, you know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: near death from having fibroids, who has experienced a miscarriage.
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: But I've also I'm continuing to hold onto the words
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: that I know that I heard from the Lord about
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: I will be a mother.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: I think at this point in time, though, I am
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: open to what that looks like.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, I know that I
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: will be a mother to some children, now, whether that's
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: my own birth out children, whether that's I met my
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: husband has children, or whether we adopt or whatever that
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: looks like.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: But I'm holding on to that word and I'm open.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: I'm opening myself up to what God has for me
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: to do in this space because maybe I'm not a
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: mother to somebody that our birth, but there is a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: child that needs what I have to give to them,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I'm just encouraging you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: because you're not You're not alone in this journey. You
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. You're not alone in this journey.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: And when the time is right, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: the God is gonna blow your mind with your man.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: First off, he's gonna be everything that you desired. You know,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: he's gonna have the characteristics of God. He's gonna love you,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: he's gonna cover you. And that's the type of environment
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: that the Lord wants the birth in these children.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Jesus Man, that's the right there.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: When I tell you, this was not a space that
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: I thought, this is why when people will be like, what.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about, I don't know what we're gonna
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: talk about, child, I don't know what we're gonna talk about,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: because if I knew, I would try to make it perfect.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: I know that's how the Lord worked with me.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: I would try to make it perfect, and perfection will
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: will disrupt the.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Plan of the plan of the Lord. Right, And so
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for you.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: Why Nica that the ray, I'm gonna let that be
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: your thoughts because you you just you just kind of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: dropped them, like you said, you dropped the mic on
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: that one. Listen, why Nika, I, man, you're gonna have
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: to be on again because I don't.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like schools enough out of heat,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: like should be Mike, Yeah, this was this, This is
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: this girl.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: The thing about it is when none of this is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: playing in my mind, like I really was not planning
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: any of this at all.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: I was really thinking about going in another direction.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: But thank you God for this, because I really feel
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: like with the understanding transparency that we all shared, there's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: there are women that really need to hear this level
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: to break something right and to know that they're not
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: alone in their thoughts. Sometimes we can think we're alone
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: in our thoughts as women, but we're not.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: We're really not.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: We're all pretty much struggling with the financial foundational principles
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: of insecurities, uncertainty, uncertainties, and uh curiosity. Like if we
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: boil down those three things, it all all falls down
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: in those things. And if we just appreciate each other
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: and just be honest with each other sometimes to hey,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: I'm dealing with this, or hey, I've dealt with this,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: or you're not crazy for this, because I you know,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: you want to get through it like there's hope.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Then I feel like we'll be stronger as a unit,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: And so you already know what time it is, while Nikka,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: I you know, here we give the guests the final words,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: and so I know we've talked about a lot, right,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: so I would like to give you the final the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: final the space to say what's on your heart, whether
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: it's from the conversation or it's something just God gives you,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: or you want to make sure that you may clear
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: the floor is yours is.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. I just want to thank you so much again
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  Speaker 2: for a loun you to come on and share this
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: space with you. And that's a ray. And the words
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: that I have for y'all is just to really embrace
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: who you are. Embrace everything about yourself. Sometimes the one
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: thing that we may hate about ourselves is the thing
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: that God wants to use, right and so just embrace
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: your voice, embrace your authenticity, embrace who you are, and God,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: embrace this new season that he's bringing you into and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: just embrace embrace him. So that's what I got for you, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome, that's a ray. This was good.
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  Speaker 2: This was.
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  Speaker 5: This was so good.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: I was not expecting this, but I needed it so bad.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: Why Nikka, thank you so much, Sis, I love you,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: my new all of baby, my know all the baby.
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  Speaker 5: It's all the community members, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 5: tuning into this week's episode until next week. Until next time,
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  Speaker 5: Remember life could be much more simple if you just.
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  Speaker 1: I know I won't see you back until next week,
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  Speaker 1: but until then, remember to love always yourself and always say.
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  Speaker 4: Thank God for one another day. Hey, hey, I know
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: we could be another way. Hey, pray thank God for
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  Speaker 4: another day. Hey, hey, I'm just thankful another day. Hey hey,
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  Speaker 4: another day. Oh, another day wise, another day to get
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  Speaker 4: it right, another day to rise up, another day living,
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  Speaker 2: We loved ones.
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