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ACHIEVING YOUR WILDEST DREAMZ Interview with Angela Di Paola · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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Hey, hey, hey, and welcome to another Friday night session in
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Terry's world of Terry Messenger's Genius Zone.
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Now, Oh my gosh, I'm thinking of changing the name of the podcast
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to your Zone of Weakness instead of your Zone of Genius.
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Now, why would I want to do a thing like that?
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Well, just listen in to some of the most incredible people that
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are bringing forth their genius and listen in for the clue.
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And Speaking of that. We have this incredible woman.
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Her name is Angela. She's a world class coach,
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author, speaker, and she runs a transformation program for both
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men and women. So the men are not getting left
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out. I want to keep the men inside
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this zone of genius because you are.
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You are just so incredible guys and and and we just need your
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genius. But you know Angela.
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Is going to talk in this episode of how to bring out not just
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your your power and your purpose and your magic, but she's going
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to walk you through step by step from the solution where you come
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out on the other side being the person that you are.
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Going right through to the inner healing of what it takes to to
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heal your life at a deep, deep, deep level.
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And of course, you know she believes that magic happens.
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By bringing back the inner child, the happiness.
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But you know, the question is what happens if you haven't had
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a happy childhood? Well, you'll hear me talk about
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in this episode that it's never too late, Never ever too late
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for a happy childhood, and you're going to find out exactly
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how and why and also why you are the superhero.
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Of your own life. So you're about to watch your
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life come up as a movie on the big screen and you are going to
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go through the most exciting, riveting life, changing details
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and information of how to totally release your magic.
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Even when you have been fighting disease of the mind and disease
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of the body. And with no further ado, get
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your favorite drinks, sit back, relax and let's have our Friday
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night session with the beautiful Angela.
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Hey Angela, how are you? Amazing.
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How are you so happy to be here? Yes, I'm going really, really
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well. I've.
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I've had a bit of a sore throat, but I'm on the tail end of it.
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So yes, I'm looking forward to our summer months.
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But you are on the other side of the world, so where are you,
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Angela? Located in Montreal, QC, Canada.
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So we're smack in the middle of summer right now, which is nice.
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Oh wow, you lucky thing. And I'm off to Bali with someone
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from Canada. Soon she's flying out there and
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we're going to be doing some really exciting things like
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we're going to be branding ourselves and launching her
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legacy. So that's so, so, so very
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amazing. But, you know, I can't wait to
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have this discussion with you because.
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You know, I have a heart and a passion for people to really
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transform their lives and you are definitely all about that.
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And I love that you are solution focused in.
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Yeah. And also you because of your
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background in, you know, as a social worker and also in CBT.
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I personally have come to find that CBT is the single most
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powerful talk therapy I have ever come across that I've ever
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known about, where you're simply just talking to someone and you
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know I love that you you are bringing so many of your own
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modalities that you've done because you've you've got a lot
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of modalities up your sleeve that really.
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Bring out the magic in a person, right?
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Yeah, well, because nobody's A1 size fits all and but some
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people CBT is super effective because again it's connecting
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that like our emotions with our thoughts and how one influences
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the other and it gives you a nice concrete strategy.
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So it's a very, like you said, solution oriented, solution
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focused and that works really well with some people, but some
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other people. Maybe they need more of a
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narrative approach. They need the storytelling
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approach to connect deeper within.
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And some people, well, there's just so much going on.
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They need to accept what's happening first before they can
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move forward. And some people just need simple
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quick solutions, so and some people need all of the above at
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different points, so. It's really.
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Tailoring things to really meet the individuals needs.
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Yeah, and and look. What I love about what you're
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doing, it's very much aligned with what I do as well.
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And that is that, you know, I think there's a time and a place
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exactly what you've just said, you know, where CBT like
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obviously, in case people don't know what that is, it's
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cognitive behavioral therapy, correct, Angela?
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Exactly. Yeah.
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So you know, it's clean language.
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It's it's the ability to go deep very quickly.
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Don't you find like you're gonna go rather than just going back
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and forward and back and forward with a lot of questions just
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sort of going really in this clean?
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Methodology you're able to navigate for that client.
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And bringing awareness to all the noise that goes on in our
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mind because there can be a lot of noise.
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And so it's to really shine a spotlight on it and then just
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start cleaning it up because often people, it's like they're
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trying to clean. A room with the lights off and
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maybe they're getting some dust, but they're spreading others.
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So what kind of behavioral therapy can do is it can really
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shine a light on. Like here are all the thoughts
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and how they're contradicting and creating all this anxiety.
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So now that we see these thoughts and the feelings
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attached to them, let's undo that and let's find another way.
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Yeah, because we've all got a past, right?
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We will all run to child. Yes and and and I love the fact
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that you do the inner childhood. Oh, that's nice.
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Yeah. And you know, I'm sort of
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getting this vision, A vision just came to my mind and you
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were just talking about how you're going in and and and sort
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of clearing that I was imagining this great big vacuum cleaner.
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Yeah. Really.
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Like sucking out all the debris, all the negative talk and all
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the rubbish and you know, it just, that's, that's the vision
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I just had then. So you believe that obviously
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making the magic happen happens with fun and bringing the fun
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back, you know, can you talk? Us through about, you know,
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like, because there's a lot of serious adults out there, let's
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face it, right? And how important is it to be
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able to find that magic? Yeah, it's it's necessary.
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It's, I think, one of the secrets to having a happy life.
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Because again, I think somewhere along the line especially, and
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it's not to say you shouldn't be responsible and you shouldn't be
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serious. There's a time and place for
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everything. It's just sometimes we forget
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the reasons why we're doing all of this and that is to enjoy
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life and that is to enjoy the people in our lives and to have
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that fun. That's why often parents relive
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their childhood through their children and at the same time
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they don't. It's great to do that and they
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can still relive enjoy their childhood themselves or relive
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their own childhood themselves and reconnect with that
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innocence and that childlike ponder, because that's what.
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Keeps us curious and excited and enjoying life.
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Like I feel myself getting excited talking about it
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because. I can see that.
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Yeah. I mean, I know NLP holds a
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presupposition. It's never too late for a happy
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childhood and I feel like you're you're what you do for the world
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is really emulating. Why it's not too late to have a
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happy childhood and how you can go back to that inner child and
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how you can heal. So you know, obviously you know
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that these people are in a position of, you know, losing
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who they are, getting caught up in the people pleasing trap.
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Perhaps you can tell us about your story in your mid 20s and
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exactly what happened. And cheering.
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Yeah, so my mid 20s, I was pretty much at the epitome of
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everything was about everyone else.
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At the time I was a hospital social worker, so the job was
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all about other people, as it should be.
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It should be about helping your clients.
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But it was like that also meant not taking my breaks and doing
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more than maybe what was required of me and meant also
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working late and meant. Also at my home life, like
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making, I basically put everybody ahead of myself to the
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point where I was ignoring my health, which was actually not
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doing so well at the time, but I didn't realize it.
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I just said, oh, I'm stressed, I'm stressed, and then I'll
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never forget this. It was like a crisp winter day
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sitting in front of my doctor because I had him feeling well
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and literally a friend literally drove me to the doctor to be
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like, this is not normal. You need, like, it's not normal
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that you feel so unwell. You need to go deal with that.
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So I'm sitting in front of a specialist, He just examines me
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and he's like, oh, you have like a golf ball sized tumor sticking
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out of your throat. Do you realize that?
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And I'm like, no, he's like and way too casually.
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Like, way too casually. He says it's probably cancer And
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I'm like, wait, what? Say that again?
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He does. He just says it like well.
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Casually, I'll never forget that I was like, oh.
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My gosh. Go on.
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And I think it was like four or five inconclusive biopsies and a
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surgery later, it turns out he was right.
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That's exactly what it was. It was cancer, thankfully, very
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cheatable. Thankfully I'm OK.
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It's in remission. It's been in remission since
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there haven't been any issues And you would think you would
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think that would have been enough to be like OK and like
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geez, you're not even like you've ignored yourself to the
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point that you had a freaking golf ball sized tumor in your
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throat and you didn't even, you didn't even know that was
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happening. You need to take care of
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yourself. But.
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That is that that. I mean, and isn't it
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interesting, right. You know, you sort of wonder
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like a young woman like you, you know, not just getting, you
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know, these thyroid issues, but the fact that it is cancer.
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And I feel like there is too much.
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Of either people on that side of the spectrum where they are, you
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know, really fighting disease. And if they're not fighting
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disease, guess what, they're fighting disease.
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So obviously you learned a bit of a hard lesson, although maybe
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not right there and then from what I understand, but I I
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believe you kind of learned along the way.
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After getting burnt out that you might have had that kind of
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hello wake up moment, that what's going on and what had
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gone on in your body was kind of like it.
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It's it's it's almost like a G PS:, isn't it.
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It's like our subconscious saying hey hey, this is just a
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redirection, are you listening now?
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You know do this because one thing I noticed is that.
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I used to be an absolute crap magnet when I was in that
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position. And what you're driving with
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that typical person, you know, that's just really, I guess
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they're fighting that in a child that keeps coming back.
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And they're dealing with all these kind of issues from their
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past. They're driven as a result and
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they're really trying to cover up the pain.
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So they they they kind of going and going and going and going.
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And then I found that when I stopped, which is usually at a
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point of a breakdown, which we're going to find out all
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about yours in just a moment. That's when you kinda get the
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hello call and it's like the subconscious mind going, well,
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if you're not gonna stop, if you're not gonna throw, I'm
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gonna throw you down. One way or another, you're
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stopping like it's enough. Exactly, Yeah.
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So what actually, I mean, obviously, you know.
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On the other upside of my story, just very quickly, you know,
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once I was able to heal the way I was thinking and go through a
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lot of the elements that you're going to be talking today about,
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I my immune system just became so much better.
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You know, all of a sudden my immune became rock solid.
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You know, my, I even grew, I've told this story on my podcast
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before, but I've, I even grew at the age of 40 like a tiny
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little. And my sister who's a big
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skeptic, she, she could never believe that and she's an
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analyst, you know. So she's into all the
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analyzation and escalation of technology and she went, well, I
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will. She has, it's true, but this is
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what the mind So the mind can really make us or break us in
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our physical form, in our mental.
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But your thyroid cancer obviously wasn't enough for you.
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You so tell us. Yeah, tell us about your
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breakdown and and what that what happened there?
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Yeah. So that's it.
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After that, I became maybe a little more health conscious,
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but you know, right when. I called myself the People
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Pleasing Addict because it felt like an addiction.
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It just went right back into the same habits, into this, and it
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took 13 years. It actually took about 13 years
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after I had the cancer diagnosis.
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You know, in that time I became celiac, like I had issues with
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the thyroid. Well, I didn't have a thyroid
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anymore, but with the medication, there was just a
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bunch of stuff that was just going on and again, just ignored
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it. It's like, no, no, no, it's
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stress. I didn't learn.
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I should have learned, but I did not learn until I think I'd say
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it was maybe 2-3 years ago. And I just completely my body,
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like you said, actually really beautifully, like the body said
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no. The body mind souls like you're
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done. That's it.
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You're not. You're not moving forward until
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you start to actually deal with this.
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Because this, we can't do this anymore.
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How did you know that you were actually having like a a real
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burnout? What was the symptom?
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Oh my goodness. It was like nothing I ever felt
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before. It was I would wake up with
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this, like pounding anxiety. Like I would wake up just
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terrified with no real reason to be terrified, but just.
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This feeling of terror in my body, and it was so hard to
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concentrate. It was so hard to move.
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It was hard to get anything done.
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It was just the sense of pessimism, like I'm normally a
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very optimistic, bubbly person. And all of that was gone.
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There was no spark, There was no magic.
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There was no anything. It was just this fear and this
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sadness and this emptiness it was.
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And it was one of those things where I was like I could this
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could not be my life. Like, I cannot, like this is not
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a life I want to live. And I think it was at that
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moment where you know, when they say you hit rock bottom, well,
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emotionally I felt like I hit rock bottom.
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And I'm like, no, this is not for me.
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I something needs to change. And you know what?
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That change has to be me. Like nobody can make me suddenly
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feel better because God knows the people around me, my husband
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and. The people who really love me,
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of course would want me to get, but it had to come from me and I
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had to start making changes in how I approach things.
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And you know, I had to first of all treat this and get the help
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I needed to treat that, and then and then reconnect spiritually
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because I think somewhere along the line I had lost a little bit
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of that and like really reconnect with that spiritual
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connection, you know? And I know.
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Talk about what? What, what?
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When you say connect with spirit, because, I mean, some
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people understand we're all spiritual beings, right?
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We, we truly are. But you had a real spiritual
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awakening. So you know from from going to
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that, waking up and feeling terror and you know.
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You know, obviously you are the epitome of a classic person
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coming onto my show who talks about your zone of genius
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through your zone of weakness. And I always say that it's the
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weakness that forms that you know, incredible you know moment
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where we just say no more and then somehow or rather it's like
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God put us on the planet and said.
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You know what? You have got to be the light and
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the ambassador of your show and what you're going to do.
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So I'm going to make sure that we we treat you like a diamond
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and we put you under absolute incredible pressure.
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So when you had, you know, from where you were in that waking up
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with terror every morning to the spiritual awakening.
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Talk us through, you know what that looked like, what that felt
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like, and and what happened for you.
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Yeah, So for me it was really like calling out to God or my
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higher power, like I meets God and to be like, I need help,
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it's really surrendering. Honestly, I think surrendering
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was. The best word to say?
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Yeah. Like I can't do this and I can't
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do this on my own and I need help.
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I really really I really need help because I'm not OK and I
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know you didn't put me on this earth for this.
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This is not your plan for me. So help me.
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Please help me. And I don't feel like that
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surrender if I can just really bring this up because obviously
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the listeners really, they want the gold Nuggets.
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So you know. What do I require to do?
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And when you can stand on the shoulders of giants like Angela,
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you know you you may not have to get hit with a a disease or, you
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know, have that moment where you're so in the darkest,
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darkest place that you're pleading to God.
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But the operative word is surrender.
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Do you think the surrender? Can you explain?
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What surrender? Feels like what it actually.
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It was so, you know, I would at that point meditate a lot and
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just sort of like kind of go in my head and be like okay, God,
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just talk to me and help me. And I remember this one image
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and it was like the most powerful image because sometimes
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we think it's like I have to give everything up all at once
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and we're just not ready to. So in this image I had seen
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myself. Almost like a kid holding on to
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this really big rock. And it was jagged and it was
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hurting me, but I couldn't let it go.
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I was so scared to let go of this rock.
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And then I was like, I know, God, I know you're going to take
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the rock. I know you're going to help me,
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but I am not ready to. And and I get emotional thinking
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about it because it was just so powerful.
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Suddenly I just felt these two arms around me, just with so
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much love saying, OK, then we'll hold it together.
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And when you're ready to let it go, we'll let it go.
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And when that happened, it just gave me the permission to be
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okay. This is who I am.
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This is what it is. And over time, eventually I was
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able to let go of that rock and then reconnect and then connect
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with that purpose and that and connect with God and to that,
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like, and just find that light, you know?
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And I remember another very powerful moment was that
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recognition of, you know, we, you know, how we struggle with
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the not good enough. They're not good enough.
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Well, was that. And I remember I would do this
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thing every day, and I still do it, actually, where I'm like,
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okay, God, how can I serve you today?
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And I would just write. I would just literally write
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whatever comes to me, you know. And at one point I was
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struggling with the not good enough.
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And then what came to me was, but at your truest, and I
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believe this of everybody, it's not just me, but at our deepest
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core, we're an expression of God's love or the universe's
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love. So how can you not be good
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enough if at your core you're just you, you are an expression
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of. God or the universe's love.
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And when I had that, I was like, welcome, I love.
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That I mean you know how we we you know, cuz when you say this
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I'm kind of like picturing you know one of those moments for me
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where I just felt like I wasn't good enough and and you know
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you're in this self sabotage you're in this and and the and
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the worse you get the worse you seem to get.
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You know it. It's like a downward spiral.
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But you know, it's interesting how us humans, it doesn't matter
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how self-centered we are when there is a bigger purpose
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outside of our self, how it can really bring us out.
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But as you're saying that what came into my mind is it's you
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know, you know, I'm God's. I'm God's image.
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I'm made in God's image. How dare I insult him?
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How dare I put too much alcohol into my body?
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Or how dare I tell myself that I'm not good enough and all of a
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sudden it's like that is so key that when you realize that you
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are something beyond just your human, your human physical.
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Form that you know is is is really just, you know, Ego.
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It's it's it's what's going to pass on, you know, one day.
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But inside of us is something so infinitely powerful in that
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spirit and spirit can't die. Spirit will never ever die.
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So yeah, that is so, so, so amazing.
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So you know, you being a social worker, you being a narrative
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therapist, you having CBT under your belt, you being able to
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have some of the most powerful world class methodologies to
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help people to really step into their magic.
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And take action. You know when a person comes to
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see you, like I know you've got this program and I always love
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to go through like the the modules that are developed in
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the program because I almost feel like.
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When you when I kind of, I mean I'm a bit cheeky here, but I'm
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going to go deep into each one because what that's really going
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to do is in itself, it's going to help our listeners because
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I'm so passionate about that happening.
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So obviously you know you're helping people to come out of
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that that dark place. And and have this spiritual
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awakening and realize that there is something so much bigger and
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better in them. And I mean, you're also an
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author and you've written a book.
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What is it That's life, Or is it?
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That's life. Or is it?
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You better get that book, everyone.
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And you know, So what is what when you say that's life?
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Or is it? Tell us what's behind that
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philosophy, Um. I guess it's just very often
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we're like, I guess that's life. That's just what it is.
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And it's sort of this, you know, like resignation, you know,
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like, oh, I guess this is what I have to accept.
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So I posed the question, yeah, that's life.
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Or is it? Or is there maybe something
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more? And maybe you don't have to
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settle for something you don't want.
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Maybe there's something more you can go after, but so long as
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you. Go after it.
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I like that. I like that because it's, you
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know, I've suddenly got this picture of, you know, a person
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throwing there. Hands up in the air and going,
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oh, well, that's life exactly. And then sort of this big long
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pause and then going, hmm. Or is it?
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Yeah, exactly there. Must be nothing bigger out
26:05
there. I love that.
26:06
So, yeah, that book. I'll have to get my hands on it.
26:09
Please send me a copy. Yes.
26:11
Absolutely I will. Yeah, so now step into the magic
26:17
of your life. When you say that, what exactly
26:21
do you mean? What is your powerful?
26:24
So when you're talking about that powerful formula of being
26:27
able to step into your magic, what does Angela really mean
26:33
when she says step into your magic?
26:36
Yeah, it's reconnecting with. That inner child that see, I
26:42
say, I say like we can all make magic happen but sometimes we
26:46
lose that and we forget about that and we get so focused on
26:49
everybody and everything else that we forget about that child
26:52
who believed in magic, who believed in Santa Claus and saw
26:55
the world through wonder it like with wonder and excitement and
27:00
saw magic everywhere and then had this amazing imagination
27:04
like we want to kind of harness that so now we can have that
27:07
imagination and. On top of that, as adults the
27:12
know how to make it happen. So it's connecting, merging that
27:16
inner wisdom, the adult, the logical adult, with the
27:19
childlike innocence and creativity to live that life
27:22
that you want to live, to live that fulfilled life.
27:26
And who? Well, they're listening.
27:28
Would like to know how you can do that.
27:31
Yeah. Would you like to know what
27:33
Angela is talking about, where she says, you know, come into
27:38
this magic life and and really embrace that in a child with a
27:44
whole new sense of? You know, excitement and fun.
27:49
So I'm going to be really cheeky now and I'm going to walk, walk
27:52
us through your, you know, like it.
27:55
It's almost like an 8 step program.
27:57
So when people are stepping in, they know there's eight steps
28:02
from where they are to where they're going to go.
28:05
But you know, you're doing something a little bit unique
28:08
here because. You're approaching the first
28:12
step as what is your story and getting really lays illusive
28:18
focused on it and then how to align it with your dream life.
28:23
So talk me through that. So the first step is actually it
28:27
sounds simple, but you'd be amazed at how often we don't do
28:31
this. It's just asking yourself, what
28:33
do I actually want? Because very often we tell
28:37
ourselves what we should want. Or we call or we'll or we'll
28:41
have settle on. So it's like, I don't really
28:43
think I can get the thing I want.
28:44
So I'll settle for this. So the first step is like let's
28:49
again remember how we talked about shining a light in that
28:54
how we should shine the light on everything instead of like just.
28:59
Going around in the metaphorical dark.
29:01
So it's like, write down all your wants, every want that you
29:04
have, especially the ones that contradict themselves.
29:06
Because I promise, when there's probably a should want, all the
29:09
other ones, probably a genuine one.
29:11
And let's like actually put it all on paper and put it on out,
29:14
put it all out there. And then once we're able to do
29:17
that, then we can look at like, okay, what is it that you out of
29:20
all of this? What are the should wants?
29:22
The things that you say I should want, but deep down I don't.
29:25
And let's just eliminate them. Because the reality is you don't
29:27
actually want it. You're not going to feel good
29:29
when you get it, and it's not going to give you anything.
29:31
So let's just eliminate it and then look.
29:34
Can you give me an example on that like the should wants
29:37
compared to the the really do wants?
29:40
Like what's the typical kind of thing here?
29:43
Because I know Anthony Robbins always says stop shooting all
29:46
over yourself. As a person, like when you say
29:49
write writing down your story and writing down all the things
29:52
you desire and then also the you know, including the the shoulds,
29:57
what what's what's the trap that people fall into there.
30:01
So a should want could be, well, you know, I should get a nine to
30:04
five and have a stable job and work my hours and then just be
30:10
happy with that when deep down maybe they're an interpreter and
30:13
maybe they want to make their own hours and maybe they so it's
30:16
like. And then it contradicts because
30:18
it's like, well, I want to be able to travel the world and do
30:20
all these things, but then I should want to do this.
30:22
So it's like, well, why don't we just cross out the shoulds?
30:26
I'm not saying quit your job, but let's just look at what you
30:29
actually do want. So you don't really want the
30:32
9:00 to 5:00. So how can we figure out a way
30:34
to get out of that? What is your actual want?
30:37
So it's. So that's the difference between
30:40
a should want and then if we take it even a step further than
30:42
that. So there's the should want, and
30:45
then there's the. What I would call the settle
30:48
want. So then we look at so we get rid
30:50
of the should once and then we look at the rest and we look at
30:52
each of them and it's like is this what you genuinely want or
30:55
are you just thinking that's all I can get.
30:57
So it's like well you know if I can make a six figure salary
31:01
that's enough. But deep down I want to have a
31:04
frickin villa in Florence, you know.
31:07
Now we're talking, you know. So why don't you get yourself to
31:12
dream big and imagine you're going to get it.
31:14
Imagine there's you have all the money you have all the
31:17
opportunity What would that actually look like And I call
31:20
those the dreams wants like the like it's it's not the I should
31:25
visit Italy it's the I'm getting a freaking villa in Italy kind
31:27
of thing you know it's. That Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:29
Because I think we, I think sometimes we try to dumb
31:32
ourselves down a little bit if we're going to be honest with
31:35
ourselves now that you've. Really alluded me to that
31:38
because it might be, well, I would say that I typically might
31:44
put something down there that seemed rational and what I felt
31:49
that I shouldn't put. When I think about it, it is a
31:52
should and I've never ever thought of that and I've never
31:56
heard of that. So that's a really powerful tip.
32:01
To kind of like you know and and it almost is a bit of a trick
32:05
actually because it helps you understand how you can dream
32:10
big. Because I've always wondered in
32:13
the back of my mind, I've known that they have has been things
32:17
that I've put down that just seem to make sense.
32:20
Yeah. And, you know, so you're doing
32:23
it and wanting it for the wrong reasons, but what you're talking
32:26
about is really dreaming big and making those big dreams happen
32:32
rather than just playing small. So yeah, I totally love that.
32:38
And I mean the next step is embracing your why and going
32:43
deep past all those superficials.
32:48
So let's go deep into that, Tell us about how we can go really
32:55
into our why. Well, cuz that's it.
32:57
It's great to have your dream. And they should and they should.
33:00
I just caught myself saying should.
33:02
And it's important that they're the big dreams.
33:04
They're like, ah, they set yourself on fire.
33:06
We also will need to know why we want them, like what are the
33:09
core values driving them. Because I promise you when
33:12
obstacles hit you're going to need that why to hold on to for
33:16
dear life to get you through the obstacles or the hard times.
33:18
And they're going to have it's going to happen.
33:20
So we need to know okay why why is this so important to me And
33:24
often again it's so easy to give a should why like Oh well you
33:27
know it's going to be good for my family it's going to be good
33:31
for my you know it'll be nice to have Well that's not enough like
33:36
you we want to dig deep enough so that it's.
33:40
Like I say, to succeed you're wise have to be stronger than
33:44
you're why not. So we need to get a very
33:45
powerful we need to go deep to like okay, let's remove the
33:51
okay. My first answer is, oh, it'll be
33:52
nice for my family, which is great Okay.
33:55
But why is that important to you?
33:56
And we keep digging deeper and deeper till it feels so powerful
34:00
and so inspiring that it's like, well, I will do anything to get
34:04
this because it's so important to me and that's.
34:07
What's that that step is all about is really like, let's dig
34:11
deep and get to why it's so important, beyond the
34:14
superficial, beyond the shoulds into what's actually driving
34:18
you. So it's it's really finding out
34:23
the driving force and you obviously have a very powerful
34:28
formula as I know that this is something that when you get a
34:32
good coach, a good mentor and someone that really aligns.
34:37
With who you are, you know that that person is going to really
34:42
help you navigate that. And.
34:45
Yeah, and and and I I do like the way your formula is very
34:51
unique and you know, I can see by the questions that I'm asking
34:55
and you're answering how that works and why that makes sense.
35:00
So. You know guys, if you haven't
35:02
got a pen and paper and you haven't written down, great that
35:06
you know, you know, write down let's what's my story and get
35:11
really loose laser lucid focused on that so that you can really.
35:17
You know, allow the power of your dreams to come into the
35:21
reality and ask yourself why? Why do I want this?
35:27
And you know, go as deep as you can.
35:30
And of course the next step, which is in the next part of
35:34
your module, is the smart goal. Yeah.
35:39
So when you say a smart goal because obviously you've talked
35:41
about you know, dreaming big, you know, cancelling out the
35:46
shoulds and now we've got we come into a more like a, a
35:52
grounded process. So can you talk me through what
35:57
this is and how you're bringing together the why with the value
36:03
system and kind of taking people and leading them to their
36:07
ultimate destiny? How does this work?
36:10
Yeah. So essentially, like, it's two
36:12
steps. First, we have to because for
36:14
the goal to be meaningful, like, it's great to say, like, oh, I
36:17
want this goal and it's nice, but we want it to be like, oh
36:20
wow, this is a big dream and we want to know why it's a big
36:23
dream. And we need to combine those two
36:26
so that it's a meaningful goal. It's not just a rinky thing
36:28
goal. It's like, no, no, this is a
36:30
goal because it's combining what I want with my dream.
36:32
But then we need to make it specific.
36:33
It can't just be like, I want to be really rich.
36:37
OK, what does that mean like? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:41
This is when we need to paint a very clear picture of this is
36:45
where I want to go. This is what I want to what I
36:47
want it to look like. This is my destination because
36:50
like the reality is if you don't know where you're going, you're
36:52
never going to get there. So we need to create a crystal
36:55
clear picture like OK, I want to instead of I want to be really
37:00
rich is I want to have a 8 figure income.
37:06
I want to have a villa in on the coast in Florence.
37:10
I want like you want to make it very specific so it's very clear
37:13
in your mind. Ah, this is it.
37:14
This is where I'm going. I'm excited about it.
37:16
It feels really good. I have a destination if we
37:20
because like I said, if you don't know where you're going,
37:22
how will you get there? I'm I'm just as just saying all
37:27
this I'm kind of having I'm dreaming and I I I trust that
37:31
every there's people out there that are doing the same thing.
37:33
So I'm I'm kind of going okay. Yeah this this this kind of
37:38
money would be amazing and there's always a reason for
37:43
money anyway. We know that it's not just so
37:45
people can have you know $8,000,000 stored up in their
37:49
pantry doing nothing but it's what we can actually do.
37:54
With the 8,000,000 or the 8 billion or whatever you're
37:57
dreaming about. But I I had this kind of a
38:00
vision of, you know, a home in Greece and you know, like this
38:05
little this, like a beautiful cottage just sitting there
38:09
overlooking the picturesque. You know, beautiful, you know,
38:15
environment. And then I had another picture
38:18
of having a place in my favorite space in orbit which is high up
38:24
in Bali, where I am going soon, where, you know, the spirit of
38:28
the gods, the island of wards and it's and then I'm like,
38:31
yeah, I could have all these. Kind of places around the world
38:37
where I can just pop in and visit whenever I like and my
38:40
family can do it as well. But it's interesting how, you
38:45
know, just listening to what you're saying just does really
38:51
awaken that. So for someone who's struggling
38:55
perhaps out there. Are there any tips and tricks
38:59
on, you know, if because you can imagine if someone really is in
39:03
the, you know, the the really the deepest, darkest back space.
39:08
How do you get them to move into a completely different mindset
39:13
where they're suddenly dreaming of that, that holiday home in
39:17
France or that house that they're living, you know, by the
39:20
sea Like how what's what's the. The best thing that someone like
39:25
that can do to start dreaming big.
39:28
Yeah, so often that person that you're describing is the people
39:32
please, or the one who just overburdens themselves with too
39:35
many things to do and just constantly trying to do things
39:38
for other people and feeling overwhelmed and exhausted and
39:41
probably a little resentful or a lot resentful and burnt out.
39:44
And they've kind of lost track of who they are because who they
39:47
are is dependent on everyone else and doing things for other
39:50
people. So what?
39:52
I teach them, and it's going to sound so silly, but it actually
39:55
makes such a difference. It's a simple phrase whenever
39:58
somebody asks them to do something, to just say let me
40:02
get back to you. So instead of saying yes or no,
40:04
just be like, oh, let me get back to you tonight and then ask
40:08
themselves, do I actually want to do this?
40:11
And if not, what do I want to do?
40:14
And it doesn't mean I'm going to expect you to suddenly start
40:16
saying no or anything, but I want.
40:18
What I would want that person to do is to start listening to
40:21
themselves and listen to their inner voice, because often they
40:24
tell me I don't even know what I want.
40:25
Well, of course you don't. You haven't been listening to
40:27
that voice in so long, Why would you do?
40:29
It. So let's start small and just
40:31
start listening to that. Like, OK, well, somebody asks me
40:34
to do something. Yes or no?
40:35
Do I actually want to do it? No.
40:37
OK, Already you're listening to that voice.
40:39
Great. Well, what do you want to do
40:41
this? OK, well, at least you're
40:43
starting to bring awareness to that voice because the more you
40:45
can do that then. And the more you've developed
40:49
the ability to listen to that voice, well then the more you
40:52
can actually start taking action and knowing what you want and
40:56
paying attention to what you want, it won't be as
40:58
intimidating because you'll have developed that skill.
41:00
So it's a simple reason. Let me get back to you and then
41:04
ask yourself, do I wanna do it? Very, very smart.
41:07
I need to tell my husband that, you know, don't don't answer on
41:12
my behalf, don't answer, you know, Australia.
41:16
Just pause and and and just tell them that you're going to get
41:19
back. And so in terms of, you know,
41:23
getting them to dream about what they truly want, do you take
41:28
them through a like a a visual? Visualization.
41:33
I know that you know with with what we learned through NLP,
41:38
it's always based on what are you seeing, what are you hearing
41:43
and what are you feeling, which is VAK, right?
41:47
So to sometimes it's very difficult for a person who's in
41:53
a very stuck bad place. To suddenly imagine what their
41:59
life is going to look like when it's so incredibly bright and
42:05
everything's good and they're feeling fabulous, right.
42:08
Because they're sort of stuck over here.
42:11
So I know one of the tricks that with NLP, and I'm not sure what
42:15
your method is, is actually getting them to see both and,
42:20
you know, with the awareness of, OK, this is where you are now
42:23
and kind of like stepping out of almost like.
42:26
They're they're being very objective and somehow there's
42:29
this magic of, well, take yourself out of it, you know?
42:32
Get out of the freaking way of yourself at the moment and just
42:36
take yourself out and go right. See yourself over there, over
42:41
eating, over drinking, sabotaging yourself, being lazy,
42:44
unmotivated. Whatever you're doing, you know
42:47
how you do it when you're in that space now over here, what
42:53
is it that you know? You would be doing in the ideal
42:58
world and then getting them to really picture into that.
43:02
And I know that that's kind of like the format that we go
43:05
through. What's your format to really
43:07
help that person to to see their goal?
43:10
Yeah, so like things like I love visualization, things that we're
43:15
visual creatures, we even when we think, we think in pictures
43:20
most of the times, so. I And often we get stuck.
43:24
Like you said, people get stuck within themselves.
43:26
So to actually have them visualize themselves.
43:29
I love the idea of like, okay, you have full permission to be
43:32
in this dark spot. Yes, it's a lovely spot.
43:34
You can stay there. Okay, it's fine.
43:37
And now imagine another you at a different.
43:41
Spot. Maybe that was a trick.
43:48
It's different. So it's sometimes it's a matter
43:50
of. Looking at like OK, well there's
43:54
a reason you're this way like it's something that it's as it
43:57
sounds so strange but it's even giving them permission to be
43:59
like, OK, you're like that that's fine.
44:01
Just why don't we just accept this is where you're at.
44:04
You know how we said we need a destination We also need a
44:06
starting point. So why don't we accept where
44:08
you're at And that's OK. There's no could have should
44:12
have would haves. It doesn't matter.
44:13
Let's just start with accepting this is where you're at.
44:16
And yes, and the world comes into play.
44:19
Yeah, exactly. And the more we do that, then
44:23
the more like once they can feel OK.
44:25
I'm not being judged for being here.
44:27
I can or they can stop judging themselves for being there.
44:30
Then they give themselves permission to actually dream
44:34
bigger and to start thinking and even again start listening to
44:37
the small ones. Because if you're not used to,
44:39
if you're not used to know, if you don't, if you haven't paid
44:41
attention to yourself for so long, how can you possibly know
44:44
what you want and why? Like where you want to go?
44:46
So let's start with the small things.
44:48
Do I feel like going for a walk today?
44:50
It doesn't matter if you do it or not.
44:51
I just want you to pay attention to that voice that says I feel
44:53
like going for a walk or I feel like doing this, or I I don't
44:57
want to do this, but I'd rather do this.
45:00
Start listening to those little wants and then and now we can
45:03
give you. You can give yourself permission
45:05
to have the bigger wants. Let's remove the obstacle.
45:08
Let's pretend you're going to get it no matter what.
45:10
Okay, you're guaranteed to win. What would that look like?
45:13
Let's pretend fear is not an issue, like you have the
45:17
courage. Which they do, but they don't
45:19
necessarily know that yet. But let's begin.
45:21
You have the courage. What would that look like?
45:23
And so when we start eliminating all those reasons why they can't
45:26
do it or they see that they're they're allowed to be given
45:31
hypothetically because again, that's less threatening
45:33
hypothetically, a reason to do something or a way to see
45:37
something, then they're more than people are more likely to
45:39
be like okay. It's just, you know, it's just a
45:41
vision. It's not something I have to do
45:43
just yet because that's really scary.
45:45
And you know, fair enough, it is scary.
45:47
But if I can let my imagination again, it comes back to being a
45:50
child, right? Like letting that imagination
45:52
come out. Letting their self play.
45:55
Be a kid again. Imagine all this possible.
45:57
What would that look like? Yeah.
46:00
And for you viewers at home listening or maybe listening as
46:05
you're driving or wherever you are or maybe walking, taking a
46:08
brisk walk, you know, one of the things.
46:11
That you're going to find out soon is you may have heard
46:15
Angela say that you know you need courage and then you know
46:21
the the monkey mind might step in and go where the heck am I
46:24
going to get courage from, you know?
46:28
So really what it's about is we're going to show you because
46:32
this is part of her program where as we so stay listening
46:38
guys because as we go deeper. You've just got a few steps
46:42
left. You're gonna find out where
46:45
you're gonna get your courage, where you're gonna get your fun,
46:49
where you're gonna get all those magic resources.
46:53
So stay tuned. So, yeah, So the the next step,
46:57
of course, is the one that is possibly the most, I guess,
47:04
sabotaging one that people tend to neglect.
47:08
And that's the action. But this is before you get them
47:13
to take action. I love the fact that you get
47:16
them to do an action plan. So yeah, let's learn about the
47:23
action. Plan And here's the thing with
47:26
the action plan. See, either people ignore it
47:28
altogether, just run right into the unknown and then get
47:33
overwhelmed. Or, and this is are they make?
47:37
Are the action steps are so vague and far in between that
47:40
it's like oh it's really hard to get to or it's so convoluted and
47:44
people are looking at like well let me get every eventuality
47:47
because deep down I'm kind of stressed that maybe I won't be
47:50
prepared. So I have to over prepare and I
47:53
have this like super convoluted. Like I almost picture somebody
47:57
tied up and like just stuck like kind of waddling through because
48:01
there's just there's just too many if ands or buts and then
48:05
they get lost in that. Are my personal favorite.
48:07
Is when people and I and I say this having been guilty of all
48:12
these things, like I developed this plan because I lived
48:14
through all the ways not to do it.
48:18
But sometimes people get stuck in the action in the I have to
48:22
have the perfect plan mentality and it's an excuse to not take
48:26
action because there's never going to be a perfect plan.
48:28
So when we do the action plan together, all we do is we look
48:31
at the next two or three steps. That's it.
48:34
What are the next immediate steps you have to take.
48:36
We know the destination, we know where you wanna end up.
48:39
So now we just need to know what are the next steps to get you
48:42
just a little bit closer to that and how it's.
48:46
Good. Yeah.
48:48
And then, of course, it's practicing, isn't it?
48:50
So that whole. Evolution of taking that action
48:59
plan and knowing what works and what doesn't work then.
49:05
Ooh, so you even go into that element of well, maybe that
49:10
action plan didn't work after all.
49:12
And you, you know, what did you practice?
49:15
And I think this is the magic of having the right coach and
49:21
mentor. And when you hear that this is
49:24
exactly what Angela does, that's when you know that.
49:29
You're going to be able to face up to that because I I think a
49:33
lot of places they don't, they don't mention that, you know,
49:35
they do. They go out and say take action
49:38
and then everybody's going, well, where do I start?
49:40
What do I do? And then they come back and they
49:42
don't confess that it didn't work or they didn't put it into
49:46
practice. So you've come up with this next
49:49
step, which is evaluating. And as you evaluate the plan of
49:54
action, you're assessing what worked and what doesn't work.
49:58
So tell us about that. What, how does that work and
50:01
what is the big draw card of, you know, people being able to
50:07
go through this with you? Yeah.
50:10
Well, because again, often it's like you said beautifully.
50:12
People just take action, like, OK, and then they take another
50:15
action and maybe they end up repeating the same thing over
50:18
and over and they're hitting their head against like, what I
50:20
call a metaphorical wall, right? When in reality, it's like,
50:23
well, why don't we take a step back?
50:25
We took the action. Now we need to look at is it
50:28
working, is it take like, are we getting closer to where we want
50:31
to be? If if it is, great, okay, what
50:33
is the next step if it's not working or is it partially
50:36
working like some parts are working, that's great, but maybe
50:38
it needs to be a little adapted a little bit so it's sort of
50:43
creates it instead of. And again the other pieces like
50:46
we can be so judgmental, right? And we can be like, what's wrong
50:49
with me? I'm failing or we can.
50:51
Blame other people like it's everybody else's fault.
50:54
It's not working. So what this does, it kind of
50:57
makes you more of an objective observer, almost like a
50:59
scientist, right? You did the experiment and now
51:02
you're evaluating the data. That's it.
51:03
That's all. There's no bad.
51:06
It's anyone else's fault. It's just like facts.
51:08
This is unwell. This is what didn't go well.
51:10
This is what needs to be adjusted.
51:12
This was an unexpected occurrence that happened.
51:14
Okay, Great. Now what can I do about it?
51:17
So it just gives you the tools to.
51:20
And the indication of like Okay, well, what's my next step now
51:23
based on this step, maybe it didn't work at all.
51:26
Okay, well, maybe it didn't work, but it highlighted an
51:29
issue that I didn't think of that I need to address to get it
51:32
even closer. So at least now let me address
51:34
that issue. And that's the power of a good
51:36
evaluation and then to have the. Power of brightness and success
51:40
and people that really, really big in their industry in their
51:45
field. Because I'm just having this
51:49
kind of flashback to where we were taught that when you're
51:55
looking at something that didn't work, like what you're talking
51:59
about, and then you're looking at the other element that does
52:03
work, and then you're saying that you're acting like that
52:06
objective scientist. So you're sort of stepping out
52:09
and you've almost got, you know, your hand on your chin and your
52:12
your eyes are looking upward and you're going.
52:16
Okay. And then you really being able
52:19
to look at what didn't work and really see what did work and
52:26
that that is a huge secret to greatness.
52:30
So I I would even be naming that that specific module, you know,
52:37
evaluating the plan of action towards your greatest success,
52:43
because I feel that that is going to be such a huge piece.
52:51
For people who are very high achieving and you know that
52:54
you're a high achiever, I'm a high achiever.
52:57
So therefore we're going to attract other people who are
53:00
high achievers. And guys, I think one of the
53:03
biggest fellacies is that we think that people who are
53:06
really, you know, superior, confident, great, they show up
53:11
with this, you know, magnetic aura and this ability and maybe
53:16
they're succeeding as well. You think that they don't have
53:19
to deal with adversity. They had the biggest adversities
53:24
right. You would know Angela.
53:27
Absolutely. Well, it's in the adversities
53:29
that you learn and you grow if you let yourself.
53:32
It's in the failures that you can see like this didn't work,
53:35
but you know what? It like we said, it highlights
53:38
something that maybe I can take into account next time.
53:41
And now I'm that much wiser and moving forward, I'm not gonna
53:44
make the same mistake cuz I took the time to figure out what the
53:47
mistake was and then move forward from it.
53:50
So. Yeah, that's huge.
53:52
It's a huge, huge piece. Yes.
53:55
Yeah, it so is and I'm just. Really, as I'm walking through
54:00
this with you, because my higher consciousness understands what
54:05
you're talking about, I'm just kind of like processing and
54:08
feeling better already, you know?
54:11
So if I was feeling 80%, I'm feeling like 98% right now.
54:16
So here's the part that I'm sure a lot of people are waiting to
54:19
hear and it's it's really about the part where you're breaking
54:27
free from. The inner child and the element
54:32
of what you are, you know that that's a piece of it.
54:36
And of course you've you've just got to stick around for a little
54:39
bit longer because in the next piece you're going to find out
54:42
we're going to talk about now healing the inner child and then
54:46
we're going to talk about how to the courage doesn't have to come
54:51
from the kitchen cupboard. Can we just say that, guys?
54:55
Yeah, so let's talk about breaking free of the insecure
55:01
and fearful child. So talk us through that.
55:06
What does this person do with you and what does that look
55:11
like? Yeah.
55:12
So inevitably whenever you do something big and something
55:17
really. Important to you.
55:19
It's scary. It's really freaking scary.
55:22
And so it's going to bring out all those insecurities and all
55:24
those worries and all those fears.
55:26
And what this step does is, again, it shines a light.
55:29
What are the actual fears? What are the worries?
55:32
Because what they actually really are is that scared inner
55:35
child, that part of you. And we all have it, that was
55:38
wounded at some point. Disappointed, hurt, scared.
55:43
Well, she, I say she for me. But that child will come
55:47
screaming, come screaming at you with you.
55:50
I'm not good enough. I can't do it.
55:51
I'm too stupid like all those things.
55:53
So what we do in this step is we go to that child and we heal her
55:56
and we we become. We give her the chance to let
56:01
herself. First of all again I say herself
56:04
the child be heard. Because I think that poor child
56:08
has been silent and told you're not allowed to feel this way.
56:10
You can't feel this way. You can't.
56:11
So it's been. Sort of holding it all in and
56:15
carrying this big burden, you know that that image of me with
56:17
the rock, that was the child holding on to the rock.
56:20
So first of all, we let it know like, hey, why don't you, let's
56:23
give you the space to actually express all those feelings, all
56:27
those insecurities. You're safe, you're loved.
56:30
Let's give ourselves a chance to parent, to see that child, to
56:33
separate ourselves from that child.
56:35
See that, that that young child who's just so scared and sad and
56:38
worried, holding on to way too many burdens.
56:42
And give it some love and compassion and say like, OK, you
56:44
know what? Cuz if we saw we're hard on
56:47
ourselves, but if we saw ourselves as that child and you
56:49
see a child, you're not gonna be like, wow, you're a piece of
56:51
garbage. You're not gonna do that.
56:52
You're gonna be like, Oh my God, this poor child, why are you
56:54
holding on to all these things? Yeah, I mean, I just had another
56:59
visual. Just you must be a really visual
57:02
teacher because the way you're describing it must be your
57:05
highest, you know, system of how you process.
57:09
Because I just had this kind of a flashback, and I know you're
57:13
like me, you do work with both men and women.
57:16
So I'm thinking like, for the woman, I'm almost imagining her
57:20
going back as the godmother and the and the and the man going
57:25
back as like the Wizard of Oz or something like.
57:28
And and and going back. And then this little child, like
57:31
the inner child is comes running up like it's a long lost, you
57:36
know, favorite grandparent and just kind of wraps their arms
57:40
around and then starts telling all the truth.
57:44
This happened to me and this happened to me and this happened
57:46
to me. And with that love and that
57:51
compassion and that and give that child the chance to just
57:55
get it all out. And then.
57:57
And this is where, and This is why it was so important at the
58:00
beginning to figure out what do you want, Who are you?
58:02
What are your values? That's that inner wisdom.
58:05
Now we can tap into that adult logical you and parent that
58:08
child and give it the comfort that it needed to hear all those
58:12
years ago. Well, now you have the
58:13
opportunity. It's never too late.
58:14
So now you have the opportunity to heal that child and give them
58:17
that. And that's what this step is all
58:18
about. But we needed to go through all
58:20
the other steps to get you to that level, to be able to do
58:24
that. It's never too late to have a
58:26
happy childhood. And now for the drum roll.
58:32
Where's the drums? I haven't got my band yet.
58:36
But you know what? It's And this is the part where
58:42
the Fairy Godmother or the Wizard of Oz says okay, I hear
58:47
you child, what do you need? And this is the part where
58:52
Angela harnesses. The wisdom and reconnects you to
58:59
your future self and it's almost like they there we are in our
59:05
adult form, like our higher self, speaking to their inner
59:09
child and asking them to connect with the resources that they are
59:15
going to have and travel through their life with as a pattern to
59:20
meet that complete higher self. So tell us about harnessing this
59:26
wisdom and and reconnecting into that higher self.
59:31
And so part of it, because often what tends to happen, I've
59:34
actually even had clients afterwards tell me it's like, Oh
59:37
my God, it. The child and the adult were so
59:40
enmeshed and it was so hard to tell them apart.
59:42
But now that I could separate them, it's so easy to see myself
59:46
as the adult comforting the child.
59:47
And that's the piece that's the part that we work on together is
59:51
let's. You know how we always say like
59:54
I know I've said this and I'm sure, I'm sure the viewers, you
59:58
guys have said this too. And you too, Terry.
1:00:00
Where it's like well, logically I know this, but emotionally I,
1:00:03
you know, I don't believe it or logically I know.
1:00:07
But emotionally it's a different, I'm feeling something
1:00:09
different. Well, the logical view, that's
1:00:11
the inner wisdom, the emotional view, that's the wounded child.
1:00:15
So what we do is we separate the two, we see the inner child, we
1:00:18
see where that came from and then we we give it the space.
1:00:23
Again, to express and let itself say what it needs to say, and
1:00:28
then we comfort it the way it needs, the way that child needs
1:00:31
to be comforted. And that's how you harden it,
1:00:34
because you already have it. It's there, You have the logical
1:00:36
part, the logical part of you that's saying, well, wait, I
1:00:38
know better and I know this and I know this.
1:00:40
It's just that inner child screaming so loud.
1:00:43
We need to comfort it, to calm it down so that it can hear that
1:00:46
piece. And that's really what that is.
1:00:49
You know, it's like when you're growing up and you're a kid.
1:00:54
And I remember 1 Christmas Eve, I couldn't sleep because I was
1:00:58
lying in bed and I couldn't wait for it to be Christmas.
1:01:01
So I just wanted to go out to the Christmas tree and open up
1:01:04
all my presents, right? And I can just imagine it's
1:01:08
like, well, instead of opening up presents and materialistic
1:01:11
things like cars and dogs or this or that, it's kind of like.
1:01:17
Oh, I'm going to open up. Look what I've got.
1:01:21
I've got courage. And then kind of like ingrading
1:01:25
it and then opening up the next one and Oh my gosh, I've got
1:01:29
love and opening up the next president.
1:01:34
Oh my goodness. Look what's inside here.
1:01:36
It's fun. So, you know, I I I love that.
1:01:41
I love how you have really provoked so much vision.
1:01:47
Through your, you know, transformational teaching and of
1:01:52
course you know a a solid rock solid program just wouldn't be a
1:01:59
a rock solid program without the secret source.
1:02:03
And you know the the the big grand finale of what it now
1:02:10
takes. To go forward and what you are
1:02:13
teaching and preaching to those people to go out in the world,
1:02:19
what is the #1 secret source? Once they've gone through all of
1:02:23
this and they've really transformed, what now?
1:02:28
What next? So it's harnessing the power of
1:02:30
support. And The thing is, some people
1:02:34
might ask, well, why don't you ask for help at the beginning?
1:02:36
Because you're not ready to do it yet.
1:02:37
You need to go through your journey.
1:02:39
You need to. Experience some of the struggles
1:02:42
and develop. Heal that inner child and
1:02:44
develop that voice to say like no, no, I am capable.
1:02:47
I am confident I'm coming from a place of strength not a place of
1:02:51
oh I, you know I'm I don't feel confident so I'm ashamed that
1:02:55
really asked for what I need or the opposite where it's like I
1:02:59
have to prove myself No, no. You know who you are.
1:03:02
The last step is now we need to get.
1:03:04
You don't have to do this alone. Who's the expert?
1:03:07
You know, there's always going to be someone who who's done it
1:03:09
before. You don't have to reinvent the
1:03:10
wheel. So who's the expert?
1:03:12
Who is the person who can actually help me on the ground
1:03:15
and get things done? And then who can keep me
1:03:17
accountable? And sometimes all three of those
1:03:19
people could be the same person. But make sure that you have
1:03:22
those 3 components. And once you have that, so
1:03:27
imagine this right? You know what you want.
1:03:30
You had. You know how to make an action
1:03:31
plan. You know how to evaluate your
1:03:32
progress. You can.
1:03:34
You've calmed the inner child down.
1:03:35
You've developed those strengths, that confidence.
1:03:37
You've learned how to overcome obstacles, and now you have.
1:03:40
You're not doing it alone. My God, you can accomplish
1:03:42
anything at this point. Like you're going to get your
1:03:45
goal. You're already getting your
1:03:46
goal, like it's happening. And then you can just replicate
1:03:48
this over and over again as your dreams expand and as you develop
1:03:52
new wants and new wishes and desires.
1:03:55
It's yeah, like after that you're good.
1:03:57
You are going to get your goals, I promise you.
1:04:01
Oh, and yes, so Napoleon Hill wrote this too in his book Think
1:04:07
and Grow Rich, and it was, he called it the Mastermind team
1:04:14
and it it actually a lot of your theories and methodologies
1:04:20
remind me of, you know, the training through Think and Grow
1:04:24
Rich. Like he has one chapter where he
1:04:27
has an actual conversation with the devil.
1:04:31
And you know, and he switches seats and the devil really is
1:04:35
the shadow self. And it's, it's really getting to
1:04:39
know your dark side, the other side, the light side, the dark
1:04:43
side and the light side. And then you know the the secret
1:04:48
source. And he didn't call it his secret
1:04:50
source, but it came up as the mastermind.
1:04:54
So he actually had. Real.
1:04:58
I mean, he had mastermind people around him because he went out
1:05:02
and interviewed many, many of the greatest people in history
1:05:06
back then, right? But he also had an invisible
1:05:09
mastermind team. Oh yeah, I heard about that.
1:05:12
That's really cool. Yeah.
1:05:14
Yeah. Yeah.
1:05:16
And so, you know, it's like I can remember when I, when I did
1:05:19
that, I I I hired the Queen. And Oprah Winfrey and Jesus.
1:05:26
And I had all these amazing people that would be sitting at
1:05:30
the table and I would say, well, what would they say here?
1:05:33
You don't need to hold a meeting.
1:05:35
But, you know, like you're saying you can't do this alone.
1:05:40
Greatness does not walk alone. And I feel that's a really big
1:05:45
lesson for me to learn, too, because I've always been very.
1:05:49
Individualized. And you know, even sort of
1:05:53
growing up, you know, in a family business where we were
1:05:56
together running a family business in real estate, we were
1:06:00
very much in our own kind of domains, which you can still be
1:06:07
isolated in a house full of people.
1:06:11
And and what Angela's saying here is.
1:06:15
You know, you've got to be able to have people not only
1:06:18
surrounding yourself. It's it's okay to surround
1:06:21
yourself with great people. But if you're not actually
1:06:24
seeking them out, then it's like everything.
1:06:28
You can be lonely in a crowd. So you know who, who are your
1:06:34
some of your greatest people like?
1:06:35
You don't have to name them, but what are they?
1:06:38
What? What are they actually bringing
1:06:40
to the table For you? That's really vital.
1:06:43
You know, past, present, future. What?
1:06:46
What sort of people are these for you?
1:06:50
So there is the there is accountability is a big one.
1:06:55
I definitely the people who keep me accountable and keep me on
1:06:58
track and keep me focused on what I need to be focusing on.
1:07:04
Then there's the spiritual wisdom.
1:07:07
Is a bit. Yeah, that's a big one, isn't
1:07:09
it? Yeah, that's huge.
1:07:10
Probably like top of my list. Oh yeah, I agree.
1:07:16
So I have my and you know, whether whether it's spiritual,
1:07:20
spiritual, or people who are very spiritual and you have that
1:07:23
connection with them. So those are.
1:07:24
Yeah, so you've got the accountability where you're
1:07:28
accountable to someone. You've got that spiritual
1:07:33
spirituality concept. What what would you suggest is
1:07:37
the a good third one? Yeah, a good third one is the
1:07:40
mentors, the people who've already done it or who who have
1:07:43
the knowledge and the skill and the know how.
1:07:45
Like that's another. And who can actually help me and
1:07:49
can because it could feel very lonely.
1:07:51
And like, OK, there's many roads that will lead me to my
1:07:55
destination. Yeah, why?
1:07:57
Why? Why take the long route and why
1:07:59
make all the mistakes? Why not jump on the shoulders of
1:08:02
a giant and learn how to get there quicker?
1:08:06
It just makes very much sense. It's not rocket science, is it?
1:08:10
And you know what? I know the concept.
1:08:12
I'm. I'm completely always teaching
1:08:14
it in my container. And that is that we require,
1:08:18
regardless of your zone of genius, what your empire that
1:08:22
you're building, what your story you're telling it is. 80% energy
1:08:29
and 20% strategy. So I love that And and what a
1:08:33
way to go out. So, you know, remember guys,
1:08:37
it's once you come through Angela's program, she's going to
1:08:40
walk you through these eight steps, but she, she's holding
1:08:46
people as well so that there is this accountability for 12
1:08:51
months, it might be 8 short and very quick steps.
1:08:56
But there is also that beautiful accountability of having 12
1:09:01
months where you can just bounce offer.
1:09:04
She's got an amazing book. How can we get our hands on that
1:09:08
book? We'll we'll drop the link by the
1:09:10
way, we'll pop the link for the book so people can buy it.
1:09:14
And I guess the question is, how's the best way for people to
1:09:18
get in contact with you? Yeah, so.
1:09:22
You can get in contact through social media.
1:09:25
You can through through the website.
1:09:30
I'm holding weekly seminars. I'd love for you to come join
1:09:33
me. They're on Thursdays at noon
1:09:36
Eastern Time, and I might be putting another time later on,
1:09:41
but make. Sure.
1:09:41
You give, make sure you give us the link, We'll pop it down.
1:09:45
People can come on in and guys, you can actually contact Angela.
1:09:52
Yeah, and you can connect with her and go through this.
1:09:56
And I know for anyone who's going through people through my
1:10:00
podcast, you are going to find when you've met with your you
1:10:05
know that that ideal person that has walked your walk and you can
1:10:10
hear their experience, they will look after you.
1:10:14
You will be looked after, especially when you quote that
1:10:17
you've come through and you've learnt about this person through
1:10:21
Terry Messengers. Genius.
1:10:23
So, so, Angela, any last words before we close out?
1:10:28
I think it comes back to you know what?
1:10:30
We can make the magic happen. You deserve to make the magic
1:10:34
happen. It's within you.
1:10:36
Make it happen. You deserve it.
1:10:37
Like, enjoy. Yeah, Make it happen.
1:10:41
Make magic happen. And Angela, thank you so much.
1:10:46
Thank you for having me. This is amazing.
1:10:51
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