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Ep. 69: 2024 Draft Class Superlatives | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zamine Kay Nannie Stevens. The twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four draft is now behind us. Who get some new
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  Speaker 1: players headed to Jacksonville and a whole lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Do have some breaking news off the top here though,
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  Speaker 1: as a list of unsigned free agents as well as
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  Speaker 1: some cuts to the team wide receivers. A Jones is
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  Speaker 1: being cut as well as kicker Joey Slide. So, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: that news coming out Brian Thomas Junior was their first
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  Speaker 1: draft picks. That means they mean to cut to the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver room as well. Well, that made sense because
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  Speaker 1: you're going to need to keep Devereux and de borrow
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  Speaker 1: the Dune from Baltimore as a receiver because that's the
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  Speaker 1: position that he plays as well.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just a numbers game.
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  Speaker 3: The Jaguars will save about five million dollars against the
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  Speaker 3: cap in twenty twenty four, not that they needed to, John,
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  Speaker 3: they've got lots of room.
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  Speaker 4: Well it's yeah, it's uh. I don't love it. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I like Zay and I like what he brought. I
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  Speaker 4: think it would have been good to have that option,
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  Speaker 4: but in the cap era, when you're trying to save money,
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  Speaker 4: roll out the future. It is a you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: not a sign of our times. We've been in this
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  Speaker 4: time forever. But it is a function of the salary cap.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I let's not forget before he leaves, big, big,
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  Speaker 4: big contributor to that twenty two teams a Jones. It
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  Speaker 4: sort of shows you how tough it is to stay
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  Speaker 4: in this league at the age that he's at flourishing
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  Speaker 4: member of this team twenty two, flourishing member in twenty three.
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  Speaker 4: Couple injuries, it's a tough leak.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he left his memories too, right the two point
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  Speaker 3: conversion against Baltimore in twenty twenty two that gave them
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  Speaker 3: that win, that started the winning streak, and he had
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  Speaker 3: a big one in Tennessee a couple of weeks later
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  Speaker 3: where he just tight roped that.
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  Speaker 2: Was caught by the pylon camp.
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  Speaker 3: He leaves a lot of great memories in the fans'
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  Speaker 3: minds if they think about what's a Joe might put
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  Speaker 3: that team?
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  Speaker 1: Good win, healthy, tough year last year, so roster casualty
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  Speaker 1: as of this point, we're going to bring our guests now, though.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Sikhma from Pro Football Focus, of course, their lead
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  Speaker 1: draft analyst, Tart, Thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: We got some news there.
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  Speaker 1: We do want to talk about our first round draft pick,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior, of course, and what that addition to
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  Speaker 1: the offense is going to mean for Trevor.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 6: When I saw this pick, I was like, Hey, this
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  Speaker 6: is a really good pick, and then I looked.
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  Speaker 5: Up, Oh, I think they're going to be more vertical
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  Speaker 5: on offense.
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  Speaker 6: And actually the checks were pretty dang vertical last year
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  Speaker 6: in their offense. When you look at you know, big
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  Speaker 6: time throws, total yards, total attempts, passing.
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  Speaker 5: Grade on throws that were twenty or more.
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  Speaker 6: Yards down the field, they were top ten in all
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  Speaker 6: of those categories. And so Brian Thomas Junior and the
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  Speaker 6: addition of Gabe Davison free agency, that just puts their
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  Speaker 6: foot on the gas even more for that being an
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  Speaker 6: identity of their offense, Trevor Lawrence ha said a couple
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  Speaker 6: of four thousand yard seasons, but I genuinely think that
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  Speaker 6: with their offense now, the skill set that they have
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  Speaker 6: at wide receiver and that mentality that we saw from
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  Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, this could be a potential five thousand
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  Speaker 6: yard passing season for Trevor Lawrence if he is fully healthy,
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  Speaker 6: because we already know that's what they.
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  Speaker 7: Want to do.
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  Speaker 6: Now they just have the pieces to do that even better.
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  Speaker 6: So like the draft pick, especially now that I went
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  Speaker 6: and look back and said, this is exactly where they
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  Speaker 6: were going, it's the type of player that allows them
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  Speaker 6: to do that even more and more successfully.
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  Speaker 2: Trevor has offensive line taken a step.
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  Speaker 3: Back in terms of value for wide receivers because it
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  Speaker 3: was a great offensive line draft and the Jaguars went receiver,
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  Speaker 3: which it didn't seem like they needed to fill as
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  Speaker 3: significantly as I thought offensive line. Or is Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 3: just that special that he couldn't pass on it?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 5: I think that it's a little bit of a combination
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  Speaker 5: of both.
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  Speaker 6: Right, Trent balk there the general manager, I think throughout
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  Speaker 6: his general manager career, whether it's been in Jackson Mill
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  Speaker 6: or his time in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 5: Like he's going to gravitate towards athletes.
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  Speaker 6: I mean the Mason Smith pick in the second round
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  Speaker 6: is just more evidence to that. But when you look
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  Speaker 6: at Brian Thomas junior, the size man six or three
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  Speaker 6: two ten pounds, four three three speed, I mean that's
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  Speaker 6: just pretty rare for that size and speed combination, so
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  Speaker 6: you gravitate towards that. But I do think that we
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  Speaker 6: are in an age where picking wide receiver, even over
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  Speaker 6: something is what we thought is pivotal as offensive tackle
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  Speaker 6: or offensive line in general. It is more common because
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  Speaker 6: we are seeing such superstars come out from the receiver position,
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  Speaker 6: and I think that goes all the way down to
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  Speaker 6: the grassroots level, right You're seeing more seven on seven camps.
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  Speaker 6: You know, these guys are getting involved in skill position
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  Speaker 6: work way earlier in junior high, in high school, and
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  Speaker 6: you're just developing more wide receivers nowadays. So there's just
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  Speaker 6: a ton of these great skill position players that are
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  Speaker 6: coming through year after year. So it's a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of Okay, Brian Thomas and his unique athletic ability at
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  Speaker 6: his size couldn't really pass that up.
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  Speaker 5: But also it is just the fact that.
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  Speaker 6: Wide receiver more often, like you said, is getting valued
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  Speaker 6: as a premium position like pass protectors, like pass rushers.
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  Speaker 6: So we're seeing that more and more. And obviously this
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  Speaker 6: traf was a good state before.
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  Speaker 4: And the Jaguars obviously focused on special teams a lot
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  Speaker 4: late because of the new kickoff rules. Did you see
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  Speaker 4: that as a major trend around the NFL, and it
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  Speaker 4: seems to me like the league is really going to
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  Speaker 4: be at a point this year of trying to figure
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  Speaker 4: out what these new rules mean. They sort of think
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  Speaker 4: they know and they're going to experiment with it, but
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  Speaker 4: it might be a year or so before they really
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  Speaker 4: figure out how best to take advantage of them.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch this year, And
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  Speaker 6: by fun, I mean some teams are maybe gonna be
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  Speaker 6: a little disastrous and other teams are absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: Going to hit a home run. And every team is
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  Speaker 5: trying to take that third phase.
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  Speaker 6: Of the game and make it into a plus for them, right,
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  Speaker 6: something that's going to be very important. We've heard over
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  Speaker 6: the years pass that old field position matters so much,
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  Speaker 6: and that's such an important part of the game. It's
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  Speaker 6: why kickers and punters and kick returners have been drafted
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  Speaker 6: decently highly over the last couple of years, at least
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  Speaker 6: every now and then.
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  Speaker 5: But this is totally different.
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  Speaker 6: Now you have an opportunity to pick a totally different
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  Speaker 6: type of kick returner that could really be advantageous to
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  Speaker 6: the game. I mean, you guys, know, everybody out there
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  Speaker 6: watches the games over the last couple of years, every
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  Speaker 6: single kickoff, they're just through in the back of the
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  Speaker 6: end zone. I mean, that's how every drive is going
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  Speaker 6: to start, right at the twenty five yard line.
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  Speaker 5: Now it's a little different.
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  Speaker 6: You have an opportunity to really make a difference and
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  Speaker 6: flip the field a little bit more in your favor
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  Speaker 6: with guys who can see the field.
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  Speaker 7: A little bit more.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Kick returners used to just be all right, let's put
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  Speaker 6: our fastest guy back there, have them receive the ball
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  Speaker 6: and run as fast as he can, and hopefully our
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  Speaker 6: blocking team will be able to get guys blocked up.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe we can get a rushing lane and hit something
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  Speaker 6: up the sideline. But now, with the contact window being
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  Speaker 6: much closer together, kick return is much more about.
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  Speaker 5: Seeing the field.
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  Speaker 6: Like it's almost about running back vision at this point,
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  Speaker 6: you know, what are you in space? So you're gonna
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  Speaker 6: look at a lot of these numbers, these one cut backs,
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  Speaker 6: these shifty wide receivers, these guys that make players miss
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  Speaker 6: in open space. That's actually going to be prioritized, in
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  Speaker 6: my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: More than just straight line speed.
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  Speaker 6: You want to be able to hit the home run,
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  Speaker 6: but shoot if you can get an extra ten, five,
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  Speaker 6: even five yards on a kickoff return because you just
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  Speaker 6: see the field very well, you see the blocking very well.
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  Speaker 6: That is incredible advantageous at a consistent level. So it's
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  Speaker 6: going to be very interesting to see how these teams
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  Speaker 6: kind of navigate those new kickoff roles.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor, when we look at this class as a whole
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, Trent Balky definitely went for some size,
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  Speaker 1: some physicality. That's something he talked about at the end
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  Speaker 1: of last season. They weren't big enough, they weren't strong enough.
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  Speaker 1: You see a lot of six to six guys. You
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of three hundred plus pounders, maybe not
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  Speaker 1: developed yet. But he definitely went for that, Let's get
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  Speaker 1: these big people in here and try to train them up.
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  Speaker 1: Is that advantageous by the numbers or is this kind
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  Speaker 1: of a boomer bust with some of these guys.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's hell boom or bust.
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  Speaker 6: Anytime you're talking about a draft pick, right, I think
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  Speaker 6: sometimes that's a little unfair when you talk about general
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  Speaker 6: managers or making selections, you just go, oh, this guy's
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  Speaker 6: a boomer bust. There's no such thing as a guarantee
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  Speaker 6: at the NFL level when you're talking about college kids
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  Speaker 6: going to the pros. So everything's got a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of a risk to it. But certainly when you look
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  Speaker 6: at this draft for the Jaguars, at least for the
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  Speaker 6: first couple of picks. Gil Brian Thomas Junior, very good
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  Speaker 6: vertical threat, and I mentioned that unique size and speed
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  Speaker 6: combination there from him. But you know, can he develop
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  Speaker 6: and do a full, overall, well rounded wide receiver.
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  Speaker 5: I think that is a question.
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  Speaker 6: Now he's a younger guy, so you expect that he's
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  Speaker 6: gonna get better, but really good off of a vertical plane,
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  Speaker 6: but can he developed more nuanced in his route running
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  Speaker 6: canny diversify his routree more than just those vertical routes
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  Speaker 6: and things off of a vertical stem.
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  Speaker 5: That's what you're looking to see.
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  Speaker 6: So there's a little bit of risk there if he's
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  Speaker 6: just a vertical wide receiver.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, it was picked a little bit high, but
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  Speaker 5: even for.
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  Speaker 6: Just that, I like I said, the size, speed combinations incredible.
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  Speaker 6: Mason Smith total projection, right, I mean, five star, number
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  Speaker 6: one overall recruit at one point is able to play
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  Speaker 6: as a true directman at LSU gets injured, Tears' his
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  Speaker 6: acl which is a couple of plays into twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 6: and then this past year in twenty twenty three, you
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  Speaker 6: could just tell there was a combination of he had
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  Speaker 6: not played a lot of football and he's still trust
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  Speaker 6: in that knee. Now he was able to play and
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  Speaker 6: be fully healthy, which is good, but he's definitely a
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  Speaker 6: projection there Jerry and Jones. I like from him because
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  Speaker 6: over the last couple of years he sort of struggled
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  Speaker 6: as an outside receiver, but then Florida State moved him
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  Speaker 6: into the slot and he was excellent elite coverage grade
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  Speaker 6: in our metric system. He was a top tier Select
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  Speaker 6: grou slot receiver that we had in this class. And
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  Speaker 6: I also like the addition to Jordan Jefferson and Javon
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  Speaker 6: Foster as well. Those guys I think have a lot
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  Speaker 6: of experience to them good depth players, and so that's
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  Speaker 6: sort of how I saw those first couple of pictures
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  Speaker 6: for the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: Every second'm a Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining us. You appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Guys.
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  Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here on jagsam coming back.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna go over some superlatives for the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four NFL Draft class. After the break, Move the.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Jerry, how you doing, man?
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  Speaker 6: Good?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, congratulations, We're just gonna bring you right down the road.
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  Speaker 9: Let's play bowl there.
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  Speaker 7: Let's go.
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  Speaker 10: Congratulations man, Here's here's here's our gimp Okay, congratulations.
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  Speaker 6: That a couple of party.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, remember we talked about the mall.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations man, Man, never get sick of hearing those calls.
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  Speaker 1: That's third round pick Jarry and Jenkins out of Florida State.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of left Trent Bok on Red.
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  Speaker 7: Bear as well.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't get a little excited at the party. But
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  Speaker 1: we love those calls. We love you know, dreams coming
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  Speaker 1: true for all of these draft picks, and it's exciting
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  Speaker 1: to get the new players in.
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  Speaker 4: Here, you guys. Yeah, And he's an intriguing guy. I
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  Speaker 4: talked to h the four state secondary coach yesterday. Played
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  Speaker 4: at a very high level out side. They moved him
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  Speaker 4: inside last year because they felt like his experience and
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  Speaker 4: his awareness inside, which you have to have to play
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  Speaker 4: the nickel. Really took him to a different level. It's
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  Speaker 4: what they need. I mean, he has the skill to
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  Speaker 4: eventually move outside. It certainly sounds to me like he
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  Speaker 4: will be the guy to beat in terms of the nickel.
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  Speaker 4: It's a tough thing to move inside as a rookie
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL and play the nickel. But you know
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  Speaker 4: everything you hear about the kid. Great kid overcame a
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  Speaker 4: lot of adversity early, which leads you to believe that
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  Speaker 4: he can overcome what he needs to overcome to get
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  Speaker 4: into the lineup. Great second day draft store.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they spent a lot of time with him
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  Speaker 3: when he was at the local pro day because he
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  Speaker 3: didn't work out. He stood on his combine in his
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  Speaker 3: Florida State Pro day. And I talked to Doug yesterday
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  Speaker 3: about him, and he sees his immediate contributor on special teams.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, steps right in and it's a guy who
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  Speaker 3: can be one of your better special teams coverage guys
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  Speaker 3: right out at the gate.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of our guys. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: do some superlatives, like we're in high school once again.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go over this twenty twenty four draft class with
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  Speaker 1: start out with the first round pick, because why not,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Thomas, you and you're most likely to succeed because
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  Speaker 1: the first round pick, so you better succeed.
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  Speaker 4: But as we.
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  Speaker 1: Mentioned, I mean, this is a great threat for Trevor,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's nice to mention as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: a young player that can grow with Trevor, right, Like
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  Speaker 1: there's they brought in some veteran receivers when they for
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  Speaker 1: you know, when Doug came in and kind of overhauled
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  Speaker 1: everything for Trevor to work with. But now it's someone
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  Speaker 1: that you have locked up for the next couple of
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  Speaker 1: years to grow with Trevor.
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  Speaker 3: Really long arms and big hands. I mean you see
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  Speaker 3: that when you see him reaching for it, which allows
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  Speaker 3: him to go out and get that fifty to fifty ball. Clearly,
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  Speaker 3: Johnny also has great body control because you see him
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  Speaker 3: in the corner of the end zone or down the
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  Speaker 3: sideline with a guy in coverage and still making the catch,
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  Speaker 3: which will be great on third downs.
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  Speaker 2: Right to be able to keep this team on the field, be.
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  Speaker 3: Able to have to throw to a guy and know
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  Speaker 3: that he can elevate and go get it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he has every tool. The thing that you hear
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  Speaker 4: about him needs to develop or out running. Trevor talked
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  Speaker 4: about it. That's big in the NFL. I mean it's
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  Speaker 4: hard in the NFL to just be great based on
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  Speaker 4: physical tools, which he has, so his task to reach.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the thing said about him was outside the
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  Speaker 4: top three. He had the skill set to be a one.
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  Speaker 4: The development part will be the key for him bare
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  Speaker 4: minimum this year. He comes in and strains the defense
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  Speaker 4: and gives them, you know that magic for the thing
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  Speaker 4: that I like, You've got Christian, You've got gave Davis,
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  Speaker 4: who here's a great kid, and Evan Ingram. He doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have to be the guy. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars and first round receivers in the past have failed
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  Speaker 4: because they had to be the guy. Day one gives.
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  Speaker 1: Him a little leeway to learn as he comes in.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Mason Smith Knacks. I actually got
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Ethan Wad during this process when we
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  Speaker 1: were doing draft picks and told me a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about I'm gonna project here and call him the best
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  Speaker 1: comeback story because if they hit, which is what they're
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  Speaker 1: hoping for, he's dealt with an acl tair and then
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  Speaker 1: last year said he didn't really feel that comfortable, but
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  Speaker 1: ethan waan on the front office is hoping that when
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  Speaker 1: they get him in the building can work with them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I think as you watch the tape from this past season.
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  Speaker 11: Early in the season, he was still kind of recovering
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  Speaker 11: from that knee injury, but each week the tape got
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  Speaker 11: better and better. And it also helps that we have
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  Speaker 11: his defensive coordinator from college, Matthouse here in the staff
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  Speaker 11: room as well, that I can really speak to his
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  Speaker 11: ability and his character.
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  Speaker 1: John that Matt House connection, the new inside linebackers coach,
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  Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator at LSU last year, and he
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  Speaker 1: got a couple of his guys in the building for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure that helps when you're investing in a
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  Speaker 4: player to be able to turn into a guy. So
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  Speaker 4: what kind of kid is this? You know, beyond everything
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  Speaker 4: they're telling me, you got somebody in the building they
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  Speaker 4: can tell you, Yeah, I'm not BS and you. This
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  Speaker 4: kid's x y Z. You know, Brian said it all weekend.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: This kid has every trait. You're taking a guy later
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: in the second round who has a first round pick potential.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: If everything goes right, is it boom or bust I guess,
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: but I completely agree with what Trevor said. I've never
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: seen a draft pick in the NFL. He's not boom
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: or bus so crystal bold business you take traits. He
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: certainly looks like he can be that tall, long, dominant
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: defensive tackle that when those guys hit, they have the
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: potential to be core defensive players and impact in a
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: lot of ways.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: So the first thought that I had when they drafted.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Him was that the Titans took Jeffrey Simmons out of
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State a few years back and he had torn
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: his ACL and he knew he wasn't going to be
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: ready until his second year, and that has paid off
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: in spades for them. This guy has the same physical
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: profile as Jeffrey Simmons as Chris Jones terms of height
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: and length and strength. If the Jaguars can get some
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: sort of super production from this kid, if he can
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: reach his potential, what a great pick.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: This could be.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Because when you watch the Titans play, Jeffrey Simmons is
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: the best player on their defense.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Sometimes he's the best player on the field.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: So you're going for that lightning in a bottle with
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: a guy like this and hoping it pays.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Off big time six five and three hundred plus pounds.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he'll also get to like that exactly,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna get to work with, you know, and
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Eric Armstead who's long and tall as well. So I
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: hope they can pick up some pointers on that line
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: there and develop as things go along. Let's go a
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: little later in the rounds. Let's go to Cam a little.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I think this is our most confident player, John, you
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: were you were hearing some of that zoom he had.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: He thinks he's the number one guy in the class,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and when he spoke to me, he said he's excited
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to get into camp and compete.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, why not. I mean, if if you have
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: a choice between a kid who comes in and really
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: thinks highly of himself and really doesn't at kicker, you
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: may as well think you're good and then not worry
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: about what happens if you show it. So you know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: it's the old cliche kickers. You sort of put him
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: in the corner and whatever they want to do, it's
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: okay because they're a weird ad bunch.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Until you need him to kick a game winning field goal.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: That takes you to the next round of the playoffs,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: like Roley Patterson. I mean, you couldn't have been in
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the stadium that day, sure against.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: The Chargers a year ago and not have thought, I
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: wonder what's going through his head?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Sure, so you want this kid to come and be
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: willing to swing his leg and give it his all.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: He's got the leg strength to kick from sixty right.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Whether he's accurate from there or not in the National
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Football League remains to be seen. But I think the
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: interesting part is they really like and both Doug and
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Trent told me this yesterday, they really like his ability
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: to control the ball and drop it into that zone
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: because if it goes into the end zone, that's a penalty,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: not a foul, but it costs you yards. So you
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: want to put the ball in a position where your
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: team can get underneath it in this new kickoff, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: they think he's got that kind of control.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: And look, since Doug got here, they've sort of been
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: looking to solidify that kicker to get their six seven
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: year guy, whatever that is. So they took a draft
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: pick in what otherwise was not considered a great six
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: seventh round drafts. So you take that year and do
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: you have to kicker.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: And you see, if you saw it, well, they said
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: he'th farwell out to work out all three of the kickers,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: and this is the guy he came back raving about,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and he was the second kicker taking in that round.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: So they got the guy that they wanted without having
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: to move up to get him.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: You're that confident at twenty years old, the youngest kicker
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to be drafted. So that's a good sign.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I can't even remember twenty much less if I was
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: confident that so long.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Ago, so long ago. Let's go back to some of
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the big linemen. Jordan Jefferson. I'm gonna give him most
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: competitive because he got a little bit of an attitude.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I think we've all seen this video of him at
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the Shrine Bowl tossing a helmet around football.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Is not a nice kid, but sometimes.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And that's what we need sometimes, right because how many
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: times would we say maybe a little attitude wouldn't help once,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't hurt once in a while for this team.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And if you can have that on the line, maybe
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you know him and Cam can. I think Brent from
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Action News was saying that they should have a helmet
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: talks in competition.
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: Think they're they're so.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Adept at that.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen through the years around here with some
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: guys it's gotten him cut.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: You hope he doesn't do that here, but you do
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: like the attitude.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: And look, if you're in the trenches all day, you
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: got to keep that attitude alive.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's a straight nose tackle. Now, I mean, like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: so you've brought in a guy who is sort of
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: your athletic guy. Next to him his nose tackle, You're
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: starting to see a little bit about what Ryan Nielsen
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: wants from his defense. Fourth round, right, so you can
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: get big. That's where you're supposed to get your big
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: run stuffer. If he's that, he was the strongest guy
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: at the Yeah. So combined again, it all goes back
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: to we talked all weekend about traits, and I'm more
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: and more considering the draft is such speculation. If you
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: draft guys with traits and they work out, they have
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: a chance to be high end. A lot of your
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: guys don't work out anyway, so you may as well
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: have the traits.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna close things out with mister congeniality,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Jarion Jones, my personal favorite personality. He's gonna be a
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: team favorite for sure, I can just tell. And he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: also a huge Jag fan growing up. He talked about
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that when we got him on the media call.
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: So when I was growing up, you know, I was
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: a big Maye Jones Drew guy like I was a
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: big Maurice Jones Drew guy like. I was a super
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: fan of him, you know, I was. I watched just
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: about I think every game that he played, you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: And when Jalen went there from Florida State, like I
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: was tuning into every game, him playing inside outside, just
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: the way he brought.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Like what he brought to the game.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: You know, I kind of fell in love with.
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: Jack watch Jalen was there, and especially while Mary's Jones
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: drewers they you know.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: So just now me being.
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: Able to continue that Florida State pipeline and come in
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: and make plays and do what I do best, you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: it's it's a blessing.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: You have the number one thing he has in common
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: with Moys Shins. He's a big fan of Moys. I
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: love yeah, he h Yeah, that's the kind of kid
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: that gravitates to Morys.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: In the third round, You're hoping to get a guy
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that can come in.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: And play, but you're also hoping to get a guy
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: that loves football because it's going to take a lot
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: of work to get him ready to go.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: And it looks like he's willing to put that in.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And you heard him on that call earlier, emotional, obviously
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: excited to be picked, but he also said I'm ready
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I'm a dog, let's go. Well, it was neat about
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: that quote. Is you really heard what's in it? For
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys draft weekend, all of said he
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: gets drafted and he realized he's going to get to
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: continue living his dream for X number of years, and
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: so many guys on draft weekend, you know, you know
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: it's ending at that point, so clearly he savors it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: You know, he's sitting there telling Doug, I love football.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Well that holy heck, I get to go play it
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: some more. Pretty cool.
• 21:45
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• 21:47
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• 22:13
  Speaker 8: Okay, then we've got ozone mailbag presented by fanatics, And
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: there's so many questions, John, and sometimes only you have
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: the answers.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Sometimes only I get the questions.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, fair enough, you try to give us the answers,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and we do appreciate that. So our first question today
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: comes from Bradford from Orange Park.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And Uh, it was does Lawrence's fifth year option, uh,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: which he and Travis etn got on Monday? Does that
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: preclude them from signing long term contracts? And I kind
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: of get the question. If you don't go into real
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: detail in a story, you said say, well, okay, well
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: they got the fifth year option. Well that means there's no.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: The answer is no. You give the fifth year option
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: to basically secure the player. The team has the right
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: they can sign Trevor, Lawrence or a traves Et in
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: the long term deals whenever they so choose. I expect,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I've been saying for a few weeks. I expect the
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Trevor deal at some point this off season to be done.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Travis is in a different situation because he's a running back.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: It's a little more of a at this point in
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the contract, fourth year year to year and then sort
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: of see what kind of a shorter term deal at
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: the end of that contract, what the numbers look like. Unfortunately,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: it's a different terrain for running back and quarterback.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Just thought, Trevor's fifth year number is twenty five million
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: dollars and that's a big number, and a lot of
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: times in the first year of a new deal they
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: want to get that number lower so they have more
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: cap flexibility. So you'd probably like to see him get
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: a new deal done so that you can manage the
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: first year of that number.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It is something we see with quarterbacks a little closer
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to training camp, ray a little later in the summer.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Things usually seem to come through before training camp.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the mahomes Borough, like a lot of them have
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: been July, say, closer, much much closer the week before. Yep.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Our second question is a little bit about draft dogs. Right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: These guys all are great off the bus, but I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: don't see any dogs I help them wrong. Do you
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: see any dogs?
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Dog?
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of self proclaimed dogs, for sure.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: I was a little intrigued by the question because I
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: got you know, I listened to three minutes of zoom
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: calls with these guys and watched the b roll, you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: for five seconds of highlights. I I'm not good enough
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to know that that means their dogs or not, because
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: dogs means you're yelling at people a lot or beating you.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's it sure seems like there's some confidence.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: H But we'll find out if they're dogs once the
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: pads goals, you know. So, uh, it's great to yell
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: in the locker room with your teammate if you can't play,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: your teammate's going all right.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Dog, You can't possibly know until you get them into
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the fourth part of a game and you need to
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: make a play and they do where they don't.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Right, So you got to be a dog. You can't
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: just look and act like one.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Fair enough, we'll see when they get into game action.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Let's round things out with a little bit of an
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: hour later. Do you think most fans think of the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: draft in terms of what can help the team win
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: this year, while most gms are thinking about what can
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: help the team win more so the following year.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I think most fans are thinking absolutely about what
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: can help them win this year. The GM has to
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: have an eye on that. But as I wrote in
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: the text answer to this question, if the GM's not
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: looking past the year that he's drafting in, he's doing
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: a disservice to the team. You can't just draft for
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: that year. So yes, I think there's a huge disconnect
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: between that. I've said more and more in recent years
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: there's a been disconnected what fans because we build these
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: guys up so much in April and then talk about
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: them so much. There's this, oh, if they don't play
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: well Week one, they're terrible. The draft is really about
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: the second and fifth year of those guys career. I
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: don't say anything you get from rookies as gravy, but
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: in some cases it's as hard to come in and contribute.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: This is why you have a coach who coaches the
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: team and a general manager who manages the roster, because
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: somebody has to have that macro view and to be
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: able to see three and five years down the road.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: We have seen it where coaches make short term decisions
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: to win now because their jobs are so year to year,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: and those aren't often the best long term decisions. The
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: best in recent memory here is the decision of twenty
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: seventeen to take Leonard Fournette instead of Patrick Mahomes.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: How might that have been different.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Right, because Leonard Fournette was a very good player to
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: one playoff front. Yep, you sort of even knew then
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: that it was short term gain, long term pay.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent, And it's so easy to look back
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: and have hindsight twenty twenty. But that is such a
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: glaring short term solution for the Jaguars. They knew that
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: they needed the running game to make Blake Bortles more
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: effective to play to the defense which they had built
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and bolstered through free agency. And it was a good
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: decision because it got in the AFC title game, but
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: that only lasted a year if they'd taken Mahomes.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Who knows what might have been.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of might there because you don't know
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: how things work out. But you have to have a
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: big picture of you with draft choices, because few and
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: far between are those guys that come in and just
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: light the place up as.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: A rookie time.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: We'll tell on this hard to judge a draft right away,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of course, that's what we've been doing all day, but
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it'll take a while to see where these draft picks
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: end up. Stay with us for a little bit longer.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: We talk about what's coming up, including rookie minicap.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Yoh, it was good, Bro, it was good.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: Welcome to Jacksoville.
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: Man, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Excited to be there.
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: You can't wait beating it down here. Bro, it's gonna
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: be It's gonna be awesome. You love the guys. Can't
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: wait to have you brothers.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: Yep, appreciate you.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: How's the how's the knife and everything?
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: Good? Yeah, it's been going good so far. Excited families
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: in sight of everybody's here.
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: Man, I'm happy for I don't want to take too
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: what's your time? But yeah, I'm sure you got some
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: media stuff all that.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: Yep, appreciate it though, bro.
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, bro, all right, man, I'll see you soon. Enjoy
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: I know your probably can come down here tomorrow. Enjoy it, man,
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: soak it up. Congratulations, Tell your family, I said, what's up?
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, wait to meet you, bro, got you appreciate your
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: fair them all right?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Roy Ever, long's talkings, new Target.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: How's it going well? I just slayed twenty nine? Pretty good,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: pretty good day, good day. That was cool though.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: If anyone can relate, it's it's Trevor, I'm sure.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: So we've got rookie Minniember. We're just discussing this the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: end of next week, one of John's favorite times of
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the year. We get these rookies in here and running
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: around twenty fifteen.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Dante Fower popped his ACL in the first ten minutes
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: we came in the camp, and so mini camp went
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: from being actually a physical endeavor to more of a.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Mental right, which is what it should be. It's guys
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: have been.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: It's intro, it's here's where the bathroom is, so you
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: know when you come back next week you can get
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: to it. And no, and but here's how so that
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: you're not running around and having no idea what's going on,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: you try to give rookies as many reps. They'll give
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: them some reps this weekend. You do OTAs, and you
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: bring them in early during training camp, training camp so
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: that by the time they get like a fourth read
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: on something, you're not walking around and going, wow, look
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: at the MEC.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: But it is an important point because these guys have
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: been training for running forty our dashes and three cone
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: drills and bench pressing. They haven't been doing football stuff,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: and so you put them on the field right away,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: and they're not acclimated to it. So it's it is
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: much more about here's how we work, Here's how we meet,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Here's where everything is in the building, so that you
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: are more productive when training camp roles.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: And strength guys and trainers have begged coaches for years
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: to realize, don't work these guys when they first get here,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: for years that they didn't listen. Finally, over the last
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: couple of years, with some injuries like that, most teams
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: are doing it this way, which is basically, this is
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: an introductory orientation, if you will.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: More than we won't say anything crazy from them in
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: mini camp. But is there any player in particularly you're
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing in person?
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: You look for athleticism, right, So, I mean, it'll be
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: cool to see Mason Smith because I'm sure you look
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: at him and say, well, that's that's what I thought
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Well, Miles Cole, the came from Texas Tech, who's a
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: project in the seventh round. But talking to some of
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: these guys, these coaches yesterday, apparently Ryan Nielsen was banging
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: the table to get Miles Cole thought so much of
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: his traits.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Well, and the big thing you don't want is there's
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: what eight nine draftees, as a GM or a scout,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: you don't want to be walking off the field that
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: many camp going, you know, which occasionally happened.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I've been here in the past.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: So that's the big thing to get through that weekend.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: They all want to get back to their office and
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: go alright, alright, okay, we're all right there. These guys
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: can at least line up so because it doesn't happen
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: as often as you used to, but occasionally happens.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: All right, that's what we got mini camp headed. Next week,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: we'll get all these rookies in the building. We appreciate
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you joining us. We'll see you next week on JAG's Am.