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Not So Fast Episode 6 · Not So Fast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,
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  Speaker 1: where two.
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  Speaker 2: Longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest sports stories
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  Speaker 2: of the day.
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  Speaker 3: Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst. Not so fast, my friends.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Not So Fast, Perloff and Pabst. Paul, a
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  Speaker 3: full weekend of college football. I know you were in heaven.
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  Speaker 4: Five days of college football, a lot of couch time,
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of remotes.
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  Speaker 3: It was perfect.
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  Speaker 4: There was drama in places we didn't expect drama. We
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  Speaker 4: thought LSU-Clemson would be the feature game that we talk
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  Speaker 4: about for days, not so fast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about a ton of games coming this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't talk that much about Michigan, Western Michigan, but
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of all we've been talking about since then.
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  Speaker 3: If you watch the Dan Patrick show, there was so
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  Speaker 3: much analysis on it. It's a layered topic, Paul, but
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  Speaker 3: take me back to Saturday night. What was your reaction
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  Speaker 3: in real time when Michigan won on the Hail Mary?
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  Speaker 4: So you're watching at home. I'm watching in a big
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  Speaker 4: bar where there's TVs everywhere, so you can't really hear
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  Speaker 4: what's going on. And Western Michigan is staying in that
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  Speaker 4: game the whole way, and they force Michigan to be
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  Speaker 4: in a do-or-die situation with a Hail Mary.
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  Speaker 5: Underwood throws the ball. Ball goes out of bounds. Zeros.
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  Speaker 4: The refs, it's over, Johnny. And they start running on
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  Speaker 4: the field. And so, like, Michigan fans at the bars
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  Speaker 4: that were, like, crying in their beer, and other people
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  Speaker 4: were cheering because Western Michigan is just a great story.
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  Speaker 5: Look, it's over.
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  Speaker 3: There's zeros.
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  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you celebrate? I'll be on the way back
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  Speaker 4: to Kalamazoo. But then there just seemed to be this pause.
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  Speaker 4: You see Kyle Whittingham of Michigan talking to the refs.
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  Speaker 4: And then the refs are huddling. And whenever refs are huddling,
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  Speaker 4: it's never.
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  Speaker 5: Good for the other team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I went straight to anger. I'll be honest. I
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  Speaker 3: was very frustrated because I was rooting for the Cinderella.
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  Speaker 3: I was rooting for Western Michigan. I thought Michigan was
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  Speaker 3: disappointing from the get-go. I did not like the way
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  Speaker 3: their offense was moving. So I was rooting for them,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, this is great. Got to stay
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  Speaker 3: up and watch this awesome upset. And I felt robbed,
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't even go to Western Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: So they start lining up for the second Hail Mary.
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  Speaker 4: It almost felt like a kicker. You know, they call
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  Speaker 4: timeout to freeze them, and he gets a second look
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  Speaker 4: at it. Bryce Underwood got a second look and threw
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  Speaker 4: it to the front of the end zone. And before
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  Speaker 4: the ball even came up, we're looking at each other,
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  Speaker 4: the friends watching the game. Oh, of course Michigan's going
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  Speaker 4: to win it here after this controversy. Of course he
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  Speaker 4: hits the guy in the front end, and it's over.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's kind of why I'm giving the Big
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  Speaker 3: Ten a slight pass here, Paul, because it was a
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  Speaker 3: perfect storm. How many times have we seen this where
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  Speaker 3: there was an argument over one second? And what are
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  Speaker 3: the odds of you hitting the Hail Mary? Even with
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  Speaker 3: the mulligan, it's still a very low percentage play.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think what still is outstanding to people is
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  Speaker 4: why the replay was called for in the first place.
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  Speaker 4: Did Kyle Whittingham call for it? I think people at
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  Speaker 4: home didn't even know there's two clocks in college football.
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  Speaker 4: I think everyone knows the refs keep backup time. I
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  Speaker 4: always thought that was a backup plan in case the
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  Speaker 4: scoreboard went down. I thought NBC or ESPN or ABC
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  Speaker 4: controlled the time, and what you saw on the field
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  Speaker 4: was it.
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  Speaker 3: So what would your solution be if this case comes
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  Speaker 3: up again?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I guess you would say what happens on the
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  Speaker 4: field is the final answer, and you have to get
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  Speaker 4: it dialed in the two clocks before the game ends
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  Speaker 4: because parsing through that and the guy's foot on the
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  Speaker 4: back line, it doesn't match what people see at home.
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  Speaker 4: And when people at home see that, the Big Ten
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  Speaker 4: office was involved in the replay. This wasn't a Big
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  Speaker 4: Ten on Big Ten crime. This is Western Michigan. This
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  Speaker 4: is a once-in-a-lifetime win that felt like it was taken
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  Speaker 4: from them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw Fox's Mike Pereira, of course, officiating experts,
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  Speaker 3: say that in the NFL, if this comes up, you
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  Speaker 3: always go to the TV copy.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, I hope the Big Ten learned, go
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  Speaker 3: to whatever the TV says, because people want to see
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  Speaker 3: what's actually happening. You can't have, quote-unquote, a secret clock.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a secret clock, but you have to defer...
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  Speaker 3: to the TV clock, so next time this happens, whatever
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  Speaker 3: NBC has, that should be it.
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  Speaker 4: Right, and what happened all night, at least on social
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  Speaker 4: media and people who watch college football and live on
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  Speaker 4: social media, they're waiting for the Big Ten statement.
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  Speaker 5: And the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 4: Statement came out a couple hours later, and it came
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  Speaker 4: out in this weird font that looked like something from
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  Speaker 4: Stranger Things, and it didn't satisfy anyone's curiosity because it
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  Speaker 4: felt like the Big Ten was getting their house in
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  Speaker 4: order for this statement. But the average fan thinks that
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  Speaker 4: that game was stolen. Look at that font there, Perloff.
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  Speaker 4: That looks like a book from the 80s, like a
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  Speaker 4: crime novel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for some reason, the statement didn't really help the
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  Speaker 3: Big Ten. Now, let me ask you this question, Paul.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at all of college football, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of conferences. It's so different from the NFL where
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  Speaker 3: everything comes through one office. I'm kind of wondering, is
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  Speaker 3: this a growing pain of college football where you see NIL? Now,
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  Speaker 3: you get a Western Michigan against a Michigan. That's going
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  Speaker 3: to be competitive. Now you have all these different conferences
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  Speaker 3: and all these different networks. Do they need to really
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  Speaker 3: solidify this and have a plan going forward?
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  Speaker 5: That's a bigger picture.
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  Speaker 4: There is no unifying body in college football. The NCAA
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  Speaker 4: doesn't oversee the clocks. It's like the conference and the networks,
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  Speaker 4: and it's different from game to game.
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  Speaker 3: I'm setting you up to be college football czar here, Paul.
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  Speaker 3: I say everything has to come under one roof. So
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  Speaker 3: in situations like this, the Big Ten doesn't have a
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  Speaker 3: different thing than the ACC and the SEC. ACC has
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  Speaker 3: the immediate. You get to hear the officials now. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that transparency is the number one thing, and
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  Speaker 3: there are a lot of lessons out of this. A
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  Speaker 3: lot has to be different next time.
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  Speaker 4: It was a very interesting postgame. The Western Michigan head coach,
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  Speaker 4: he didn't go scorched earth. He said, I'll let the
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  Speaker 4: others fight my battle for me. But it was also
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  Speaker 4: interesting because Western Michigan got paid $ 1. 5 million to be there.
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  Speaker 4: They're coming back to Michigan in 2029. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: Michigan's ever going to Kalamazoo to play home and home.
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  Speaker 4: But it felt like one of those moments that's gone forever.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. But can a loss be a win in
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  Speaker 3: the sense that when they're picking the group of five
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  Speaker 3: playoff teams, And if Western Michigan runs the table, they
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  Speaker 3: have Boise on September 26th ball, who is a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people's favorite to get that spot. If Western Michigan
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  Speaker 3: runs the table. Will everybody count this as a win?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And the other way, this is a horrible win for Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: This might as well have been a loss.
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  Speaker 3: This is worse than a loss.
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  Speaker 5: Boise had a better week than Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Michigan's at a tie for that last playoff spot.
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  Speaker 3: I think the committee's going to remember back in the
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  Speaker 3: beginning of September and say, no, we're not letting them
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  Speaker 3: get away with anything. Right.
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  Speaker 4: You could win and still lose in college football. A
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  Speaker 4: lot more games to chop up. The game we thought
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  Speaker 4: was going to be a game of the weekend, LSU
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  Speaker 4: versus Clemson. That was a no-show. Back in the day
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  Speaker 4: when someone didn't show up for work, a no-call, no-show.
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  Speaker 4: That's what happens with Clemson football. At no point did
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  Speaker 4: that feel like a football game. And LSU stepped on
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  Speaker 4: the gas. They didn't pump the brakes in any way.
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  Speaker 4: Sam Levitt, the new quarterback that transferred from Arizona State,
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  Speaker 4: he did a little more running than passing, but he
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  Speaker 4: looked fantastic. And that was a 10-point spread. That was
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  Speaker 4: considered a nice game.
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  Speaker 3: A possible game.
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  Speaker 5: And it was non-competitive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, LSU outrushed them 309-40. That's not good. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's what you expect when Michigan plays a MAAC team.
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  Speaker 3: This made the ACC and Clemson look like a Bush
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  Speaker 3: League conference compared to the SEC. We call this on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: I lean more towards you've got to use the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to use the NIL. I think Lane Kiffin
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  Speaker 3: made an emphatic statement with this win.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Lane Kiffin made a statement at halftime. He was
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  Speaker 4: rallying the troops, and he didn't step off the gas
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  Speaker 4: in any way. Lane Kiffin, even in the pregame, he's
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  Speaker 4: sampling Morgan Wallen with his walkout.
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  Speaker 5: And he had Libby.
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  Speaker 4: Dunn and Theo Vaughn as his walkout crew when he's
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  Speaker 4: walking through the Tiger fans.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, you said it, I think,
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  Speaker 3: last week. You've got to embrace the bad guys.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He's stepping into it.
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  Speaker 4: All right, does this say more about Clemson going forward
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  Speaker 4: or LSU going forward?
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I think it says more about Clemson, as in
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  Speaker 3: we may be done with Davos.
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  Speaker 5: Are you calling the season?
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  Speaker 3: I'm calling the season. Is that allowed?
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  Speaker 4: We said on Not So Fast you never say it's
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  Speaker 4: over before it's over, but you may be right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, they had a lot of pro players
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  Speaker 3: last year and didn't win anything. All those pro players
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  Speaker 3: are gone. They did not replace them. How are they
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  Speaker 3: going to get better? This was embarrassing. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: hate to say one loss counts for more than one loss,
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  Speaker 3: but in this case, you're not what your record says.
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  Speaker 3: This is a bad, bad 0-1.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't aspire to be in the pinstripe bowl.
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  Speaker 4: No offense if you're Clemson football. And I think in
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  Speaker 4: two weeks, Clemson versus UNC in the buyout bowl with
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  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 3: Oh! Yeah, I mean, that's a must-win. You don't want
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: to say must-win ever. That's another thing. So we're doing,
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  Speaker 3: you know, is it over and must-win in the first month,
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  Speaker 3: and I say yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still technically summer.
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  Speaker 4: The other game, Boise versus Oregon, that was a better
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  Speaker 4: game than you expected. We actually said on Not So Fast,
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  Speaker 4: don't sleep on Boise.
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  Speaker 5: They're always good.
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  Speaker 4: But Oregon football in the second half, buzzsaw. Dante Moore,
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  Speaker 4: the second half looked like real Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: Well, first half was scary, though. Yeah. Because a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people picked them to win the title. I was
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  Speaker 3: leaning towards them for the title. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 3: saw some vulnerability. I know what you're talking about. Dante
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  Speaker 3: Moore was awesome in the second half. But did you
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  Speaker 3: see a national championship team that can go toe-to-toe with
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State, go toe-to-toe with Indiana?
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  Speaker 4: In the second half I did. By the way, those
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  Speaker 4: uniforms are first ballot. Just want to throw that in there.
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  Speaker 4: But the second half, it's like they outlasted them and
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  Speaker 4: out-talented them in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually walked away with a little different vibe
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  Speaker 3: from this one, where I said to myself, I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: I didn't pick Oregon to win it all.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to some NFL news. We're a
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  Speaker 4: day away. A little NFL news over the weekend. It's
• 8:59
  Speaker 4: mostly college football, but some NFL news. The Falcons named
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: Tua the starter. If this is health-related with Pennix, your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: If it's not health-related, your thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: So Michael Pennix said that he wasn't quite 100%. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's totally health-related because there's no upside with Tua.
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  Speaker 3: We saw Tua played a little bit better in preseason
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  Speaker 3: week three, but he really struggled. He was down in
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: Miami with a great offense, and he was good. I
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: have a number that surprised me. He's 44-32 as a
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  Speaker 3: starter in the NFL. That's good. When Tua plays and
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  Speaker 3: he's healthy, he's been productive.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like we've seen his best work in 23
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  Speaker 4: and 24.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're saying. So Tua is an
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  Speaker 3: insurance policy for Penix, and they had to go to
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  Speaker 3: it because Penix is not ready. You have to see
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  Speaker 3: what you've got in Penix.
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  Speaker 4: It does seem like that, that Tua is in a
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  Speaker 4: holding pattern, like a high-end holding pattern quarterback. But you
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  Speaker 4: drafted Penix high in the draft. You changed the whole
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  Speaker 4: direction of your franchise. And if you don't give Penix
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  Speaker 4: a really good look, 10, 12, 13 games. Why did
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  Speaker 4: you draft him in the first place?
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  Speaker 3: I don't like anything Atlanta's done team-building-wise. You know, they
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  Speaker 3: kept taking skilled position players. They took Bijan, Drake, London,
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts, and then Michael Penix. They have a very
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  Speaker 3: old offensive line that's going to be injury-prone. They haven't
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: really built a tough defense. So I think that this
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  Speaker 3: is not a good situation anywhere around. And even though
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  Speaker 3: Penix is young, Paul, they might be watching college football
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  Speaker 3: on Saturdays like us and thinking– That's our future.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what drives me crazy about the Falcons
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  Speaker 4: is you need 10 wins and you're hosting a playoff game.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, you may need nine wins in
• 10:24
  Speaker 5: that division to host a playoff game. Their schedule, it's
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  Speaker 5: not the hardest in the world.
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  Speaker 4: They've got a lot of winnable games there, but it
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  Speaker 4: always feels like the Falcons are one step away from being,
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  Speaker 4: I like them.
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  Speaker 5: I love them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. You say 10 wins. We've been waiting for this
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  Speaker 3: team to get 10 wins in the last few years.
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  Speaker 3: I picked the Falcons almost every year. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why they're going to get the 10 wins now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Unfortunately, 8-9 will also get you there in
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  Speaker 3: the NFC South. All right, coming up, we'll stick with
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: the NFL. Have Josh Allen and other soon-to-be 30-year-old quarterbacks
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: already lost their best chance to win a Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 3: We'll explain next on Not So Fast.
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  Speaker 4: Pearl, it's time for the midday pick-me-up. We all love
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  Speaker 4: this one from the weekend.
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  Speaker 5: A little baseball. Look at the Toronto fans.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, look at this.
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  Speaker 5: Guys, let's team up. We can do this. A little help,
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  Speaker 5: a little help, a little help. And there we have it.
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  Speaker 3: You have no idea how many times this hit my
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  Speaker 3: social media feed, Paul, and I don't know what that
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  Speaker 3: says about me. I've seen this clip at least a
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  Speaker 3: thousand times.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, is it the highlight of Toronto season?
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  Speaker 7: Who knows?
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  Speaker 4: But awesome way to see the fans working together. We
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: love that on Not So Fast.
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  Speaker 5: That was great. Midday Pick Me Up, we always love that.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to it. It's time for Warm Takes.
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  Speaker 4: You kids at home, we don't want you getting burned.
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  Speaker 4: Just a little warm stuff from the college football.
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  Speaker 5: Weekend and NFL as well.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: There's a thing we like to call the Sept Heisman
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  Speaker 4: on the Dan Patrick Show and here on Not So Fast.
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  Speaker 4: It's a person who dominates college football in September. The
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  Speaker 4: Sept Heisman rarely wins the Heisman Trophy because they peak
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: too early. Your guy, Perloff, Malachi Toney, you called this
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  Speaker 4: on Friday on Not So Fast, who's your Heisman pick.
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  Speaker 4: He dominated Stanford the other day, and that's saying it light.
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  Speaker 4: Twelve catches over 200 yards, three touchdowns. He was the
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  Speaker 4: focal point. He's one of those guys you can't take
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  Speaker 4: your eyes off of. So he is in great shape
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  Speaker 4: for the Heisman. Jeremiah Smith, the wide receiver at Ohio State,
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  Speaker 4: also dominated week one. Jeremiah Smith looks great. Everyone knows
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  Speaker 4: him already. They've got brand recognition based off last year
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  Speaker 4: and Jeremiah Smith a couple years ago.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone knows this guy.
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  Speaker 4: It's really, really tough to win the Heisman in September.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost technically impossible because the voting is in December.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's so refreshing to have two wide
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  Speaker 4: receivers battling because historically this doesn't happen. The last pure
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  Speaker 4: wide receiver to win the Heisman was Deontay Smith, the
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  Speaker 4: Bama a few years ago. Remember, he came out of
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  Speaker 4: nowhere because of the Jalen Waddell injury. Remember, he broke
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  Speaker 4: his ankle. But two wide receivers. Desmond Howard won it
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  Speaker 4: more than a generation ago, but he had to use
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: return stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Look where we are.
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  Speaker 4: Smith is in the mix. Malachi Toney is in the mix. Now,
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  Speaker 4: will they split votes with Julian Sayen and Mensah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that can happen. But two wide receivers in the mix
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  Speaker 4: in September, I'm all about it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. You know, there are a lot of
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the mix, too, so maybe those guys split
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  Speaker 3: their vote. Malachi Toney, in the first drive, I ran
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: straight to the betting app and I'm like, I'm putting
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: even more on him for the Heisman.
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: That was your pick on Friday.
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he caught three of the four, three of the
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: first four plays were Malachi Toney. Actually, Paul, I understand
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: we have some sound of me on Malachi Toney. I'm
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: going wide receiver, do everything, man. Malachi Toney out of
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: University of Miami. I think he's still 18 years old,
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: but he's the most exciting player in the country. I
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: think that team is going to be unbelievable. I think
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: the offense is going to run through him That's like.
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: Going third person. Not so fast, Perloff.
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: You setting up your own callback for your thing. I
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: tried to give you credit three minutes ago, and you
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: still brought back the clip.
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: Proud of you.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: Malachi Toney, by the way, is almost a health concern
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: for the rest of the ACC. I swear, Stanford DBs,
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: about three of them broke their ankles trying to keep
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: with this guy.
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: They have a good athletic department, though.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: You knew he was coming, and you could not stop
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: him in any way.
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: It reminds me of Randy Moss in college. Remember Tavon
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: Austin at West Virginia?
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: We know we can't stop him. Why bother trying?
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was awesome. Okay, my warm takes on another
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: awesome college football player, Trinidad Chambliss, quarterback Ole Miss. Ole
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: Miss with a tough, hard-fought win over Louisville. Now, Trinidad Chambliss...
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: is not necessarily a first-round draft prospect. And you know
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: I'm a Moneyball guy, Paul. Yes. You know, I love
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: my analytics. I've seen Moneyball with Brad Pitt at least
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: five times. I identify more with Jonah Hill than Brad Pitt. Shocker.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: From a look standpoint. Now, all the Moneyball reasons say
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: that you do not take Trinidad Chambliss high. He's 24,
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: first of all, and he's just a skunch below six feet.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: So we're talking Kyler Murray, taller than Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson—
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Sort of that vein of quarterback. And usually that is
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: tough because you can't see over the line and you
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: have to block a certain way. I don't care. I
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: don't care about any of the money ball stuff. The
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: way the ball came off his hand was incredible. His
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: long passes, especially in the second half where he just dominated,
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: you could just eyeball this guy and say that's an
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: NFL quarterback. Not only is he probably, I'm going to
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: say it, the best quarterback in college football, he's so clutch.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: It's just explosive. The ball comes off like fire, Paul.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: That is not an analytic. That is Perloff's eyeballs. I
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: love what I'm seeing out of Trinidad Chambliss, and I
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: think he's going a lot higher in the draft than
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: we thought.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: This is you going against the grain on yourself because
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: you're notoriously heightest when it comes to quarterbacks.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I didn't like Kyler Murray at the top
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: of the draft. Right.
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: If he was two inches, three inches taller, you may have.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: But I'll give you my comp for him. Baker Mayfield. Okay.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, about the same size. Hard to deal with.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: Trinidad Chambliss is fantastic.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: I think he's one of those guys where he'll probably
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: go like top five picks of the second round.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: No, show bet. I think he gets in the first round.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Show bet.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that some team is going to ignore
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: the analytics, ignore the numbers.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Keep it friendly?
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's keep it friendly. I say Trinidad Chambliss is
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: a first-round pick.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: 20 bucks on Trinidad Chambliss? Put that down, Scotty.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to my next warm take here.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: I want to go back to Western Michigan versus Michigan.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Nobody's necessarily rooting for or against Michigan or for or
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: against Western Michigan, but when you see the end of
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: that game and you see Western Michigan, a directional school
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: about to take down Michigan, the big house, you have
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: to start rooting for them because you're not rooting for them.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: You're rooting for the story. And when this happened right here,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: you think it's over. And you think, I just saw
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: one of the biggest upsets in recent or all-time college
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: football history. On this show Friday, I think we talked to,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: on Thursday, we talked to Nicole Auerbach about the Appalachian
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: State win over Michigan a generation ago.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: This was that.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: This was this generation's version of that. And it got
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: taken away. And whatever you think of the clock and
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten and whoever took this away, Sports fans
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: were bothered and bummed. I was with two of my
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: friends watching the game. And when the ruling happened and
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Western Michigan lost, my buddy Phil, who's always negative, by
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: the way, said, can we just go home? He didn't
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: go to Western Michigan. He's not from Kalamazoo. He wanted
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: to call it a night because that's how bummed he were.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I think as sports fans, we were sports bummed by
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: that call because a moment, a great moment was taken
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: away for us.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: And we live for those moments.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: You know, It didn't feel like Appalachian State in the
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: sense that you could tell these teams were evenly matched.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Even-ish.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe we didn't see it coming. It didn't feel David
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Goliath to me. I think Michigan's about to have a very,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: very long season. If Michigan had gone 3-9 and Western
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Michigan had won that game, would it be remembered as
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: David versus Goliath? I'm not so sure.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: It's the moment, though.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: You have a Hail Mary, Western Michigan directional school. That's
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: not Appalachian State. If you're at Western Michigan, you could
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: just roll into Ann Arbor any day and just go scoreboard.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: For three years until they play again. I mean, look
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: at this guy. It was taken away from him. And
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: you're never getting this chance again. I know you play there,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Western Michigan, three years. But unless you're a freshman, no chance.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, directional. It's not the one where J.J. Watt and
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Antonio Brown went.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Central Michigan. That's my Chippewas.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: That's your Chippewas. Okay.
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I'm going back to the NFL for my next warm take.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I cannot believe this. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Joe
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Burrow all turned 30 this year, Paul, or this season. Now,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: none of them have won the Super Bowl. Burrow, of course,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: got to the Super Bowl. I think it's getting late
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: early for these three quarterbacks. I mean, they are good enough, obviously,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: to win a Super Bowl. But if they don't do
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: it this year, then I think you're going to start
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: to hear a lot of noise in Cincinnati, Buffalo, and
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: believe it or not, Baltimore. They're good enough quarterbacks to
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: make the Super Bowl, but is the team around them
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: good enough? Now, Cincinnati spent a lot to fix their defense,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: puts even more pressure on Joe Burrow. Buffalo fires their coach,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: brings in a new coach who is Josh Allen's guy.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Pressure there. And, of course, Baltimore, the odds are they're
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: second in Super Bowl odds. They should be a Super
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Bowl team. Paul, I am worried that if these teams
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: do not win, we're going to start to see those
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: three quarterbacks talking about maybe I have to pull Matthew Stafford.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe I have to go to another team to win
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: That I could see, and that's a pretty warm take
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: that they may have to end their career elsewhere. You
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: look at it, if you think these guys have six
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: more chances, really, realistically, and they have to get past
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: each other and then win the title. Joe Burrow is
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: that close, and if Aaron Donald didn't sack him, he
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: would have had his Super Bowl.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: But it does feel a little bit like 80s.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: NBA, 90s NBA. There's no Michael Jordan. Mahomes isn't that anymore.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: But if you're Patrick Ewing, how many chances do you get?
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: If you're Barkley, you had one chance. If you're Carl Malone,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: you had your chance. You may only get one.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Well, also, there's some quarterbacks coming up. Caleb Williams, maybe. Obviously,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Drake Maywood, he did last year. Bo Nix. Bo Nix.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: And there's a great draft class coming in next year.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: So there could be a Tim Duncan. Think about it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Tim Duncan came in 99 post-Jordan, and all those guys
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: didn't win because then they had to deal with the Spurs.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Man, we are comping the heck out of this segment.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: All right, let's have a little game time. We love
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: to play games here and not so fast. This one
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: is called Who Said It? We'll play the clip. I
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: think it's football-related. That's the only hint I got from
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: the control room. Who said this, Pearl?
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: It's a big.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Culture shock, coming to a place like this, that's not
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: a diss towards anyone else. but it's just different the
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: way Coach runs it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Gotta be a new guy.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Is it the way Coach runs it up? Meaning Lane
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Kiffin in LSU?
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Are you going Sam Leavitt?
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, Sam Leavitt. I agree.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: We're both Sam Leavitt, LSU quarterback.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Here we go. You know, it's a big culture shock
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: coming to a place like this and That's not a
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: diss towards anyone else, but it's just different, right, the
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: way Coach runs it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: By the way, Josh Hoover looks like a football guy.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: He got hit in the first quarter, the new IU quarterback,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: and he did not go to the sidelines.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: He pulled a J.J.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: Watt.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: If you get bloody, you stay with it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: So if you're all bloody during a football game, you
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: don't go to the sidelines and wipe it off.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: You miss that great shot. Look at that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: That is... Legendary. Yeah, it was early in the game, too,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: and not a lot was going on. And then you
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: look over at Josh Hoover.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: That's a ticky-tack face mask call, by the way.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Oh, you're being sarcastic. He's
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: like the exorcist right there. Josh Hoover played pretty well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: by the way. Yes. He throws a pretty nice ball.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think that was much of a challenge.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: You poo-pooed Josh Hoover last month.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I know, I know. Well, listen, we do not know
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: what Indiana's going to be. You really couldn't tell on Saturday.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: But he's right about Signetti being different than Sonny Dykes
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: at TCU. I believe that Signetti, he's that coach. He's
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: like the Belichick of college football.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Nice comp.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: All right, one more round of who said it. We're
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: both 0 for 1. Who said this, Perloff?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Outside the building, our building, there can be a narrative
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: that it's easy, that college football is easy, and we
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: should steamroll teams.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: The reality is a really good team with some really
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: good players.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I know this one. This is obvious. This is Oregon
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: coach Dan Lanning.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Dan Lanning's a good call.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I can't call up that. I'm going to go Ryan
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Day just to be counter. Ryan Day of Ohio State.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: What do we got?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Outside of this building, our building, there can be a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: narrative that it's easy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: College football is easy and we should steamroll teams. The
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: reality is that's a really good Wisconsin team with some
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: really good players. I'm going to take credit for Dan
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Lanning because that would have worked for him as well.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: It would have.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: We're both 0-2 in this game. We're playing pretty well,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: but that is a little bit of C.J. Carr talking
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: about the win. Nice win defensively, not so much on offense.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, C.J. Carr, by the way, I had high expectations.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: He's got to pick it up a little bit.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to pick it up, and he will.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: He's got some games where he can easily pick it up.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Coming up next, we will go to, oh, a little
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: AFC North. No, AFC East, NFC East breakdown, getting you
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: ready for the NFL season coming up tomorrow night.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Stick around. This is Not So Fast.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: The Patriots run was great, but I can't act like
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: they didn't have the record that they had and I
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: didn't see what I've seen in the playoffs. Their schedule
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: was very weak. The weakest, actually. And then if we
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: look at how Drake may play in the playoffs, it
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: wasn't great. By the way, if you weren't aware, New
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: England Patriots, Seattle Seahawks tomorrow on NBC. Cheers.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: It's like Wayne's World product placement.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I think I'm going to watch that game. Yeah, why not?
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl rematch.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl rematch. I just looked at it. I'm seeing
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Seahawks at three and a half point favorites. It's interesting
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: what McCoy said. I don't think a lot of people
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: are taking the Patriots too seriously right now.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: No, I think people look at that as a team
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: that overachieved and they'll come back to earth a little bit.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: But we'll talk about that because we're going to get
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: to our previews. Here we go.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: We have threat level, AFC East, NFC East. I'm going
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: to set you up, Pearl. How threatening are these teams?
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I know there's some that are maybe non-threatening. but I
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: guess some type of threat level that gives the people
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: some hope. Let's start with in the AFC East, the
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins. How do you feel about the Dolphins plus
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: 4,000 to win the Super Bowl?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Is there such a thing as a negative threat level?
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: You know, here's my favorite part of the Dolphins. This
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: is their wide receiving core depth chart. Malik Washington, Caleb Douglas,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Jalen Tolbert, and Chris Bell.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: You're making some of those names up.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Jalen Tolbert was barely a wide receiver three,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and now he might be a wide receiver one. This
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: is one of the most obvious tanks I've seen in
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: a long, long time. Right.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: And I don't understand the tank job by them because
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: last year, there's Malik Willis.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I'm going to get to him.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Last year, they started trading Jalen Phillips and they did
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: that fire sale. But then the offseason, they spend a
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: medium amount of money on Malik Willis, who was really
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: good with the Packers. But you put him in position
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: to do what?
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Succeed this year?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I think you'd give him a year-long tryout. For
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: some reason, maybe he will be the guy. Or at
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the very least, he'd be a bridge quarterback where you
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: have him as a starter. You draft a guy in
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: the top five and have him sit behind Malik Willis.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I thought Malik Willis should have gone somewhere like the Vikings.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: So you're saying the Dolphins, they don't want to improve
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. Actually, I like Jeff Halfley, their new coach.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: He seems like a real motivator.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: This is a gap year.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: This is a building year, and the worst thing they
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: could do is go 8-9 and miss out on, say,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Dante Moore or Arch Manning.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, the New York Jets, decent defense. Geno Smith is
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: their quarterback. It also feels gap year-ish.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Any threat level?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I would say it's more than the Dolphins, for sure,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: but minimal. It's funny because there are some players there.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: We both love wide receiver Garrett Wilson. David Bailey looks
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: very promising. You know, if Geno is in a clean pocket,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: he will shred you. But the odds of him being
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: in a clean pocket consistently in here in New York
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: are low to me.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: More likely that they win six games or Garrett Wilson
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: demands a trade before Thanksgiving.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Garrett Wilson knows. They must have talked
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: to Garrett Wilson and said, like, Geno's here for now.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Your quarterback of the future is playing college football.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Okay, let's go to the New England Patriots. There's the Jets' schedule.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Titans, Green Bay, Detroit, and then it gets a little heavy.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: They do with the Browns in there.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: That says tank to me.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that says let's pack it up, Johnny. All right,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: let's go to the New England Patriots. They make the
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl. Not a great showing in the Super Bowl.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Not the worst of all time. But they get a
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: bit of a hall pass because no one expected them
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: to be there. Drake May was an MVP candidate right
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: to the end of the season. Do you look at
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: the Patriots as a dip or hold steady?
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I actually look at it. Now, they did add A.J. Brown,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, who's going to make Drake May.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: They're better at that position.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: They are better. They finally re-signed Christian Gonzalez. The schedule
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: is a lot harder. I view them, and tell me
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: if you follow this, as a 2000s Titans with Mike Vrabler, 2010.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: That's a deep cut. Mike Vrabel was always good with
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: the Titans. They were always 11 wins, but they were
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: never threatening to win a season.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: And they ran the ball a lot.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: They ran the ball a lot. They played conservatively. Now,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: last year, they did throw the ball around the yard,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: but it's going to be harder against the schedule. So
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I think there's a ceiling to where this team can go.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to play hard for Vrabel. I
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: don't think they're going to go back to the schedule.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: You know, that Patriots schedule there, Jets and Dolphins later
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: in the season, that could be one of those. We
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: have 10 wins, and we need those last two.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, before that, though, there were some tough ones.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we kind of glazed past those.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Lions, Chargers, the Bills. Not to mention, this
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: is a tough opening day against the Seahawks. That team
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: who won the Super Bowl wins about 75% of the
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: time in Week 1. It's a tough assignment for New England.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: All right, weirdly, we're going with the Bills last because
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the Bills feel like the favorite.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: Joe Brady, the new coach.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Everyone remembers Joe Brady, 2019 passing game coordinator with LSU.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Now it's his job. It's his stage. Sean McDermott's out.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Your thoughts on the Bills?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I would have done a clean break. I would not
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: have brought back the OC. Obviously, they finally let go
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: of Sean McDermott, probably overdue. I don't get it, Paul.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: You know, you weren't getting to the Super Bowl with
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: this coaching staff. Why are you bringing the OC up?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Why don't you go in a totally different direction?
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's like a comfort thing. I think
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: it may be one of those things where Josh Allen
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: was more comfortable. It feels like Josh Allen, this juncture
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: of his career, has some level of head coach approval.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: So I can't imagine they didn't say, we're going with
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Brady or looking elsewhere. And he probably said Brady because
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I felt comfortable.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have preferred if they had not made
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: him comfortable. I think Josh Allen has played amazing. He's
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: arguably the best quarterback in the league. But something falls
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: apart in the postseason. Paul, last year Mahomes was out.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen had to get to the Super Bowl. And
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: he didn't.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: More likely the Bills miss the playoffs, win the Super Bowl.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: Ooh.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go win the Super Bowl. Now, that
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: being said, I can't see them missing the playoffs. Josh
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Allen will run them into the playoffs. What they do
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: there is a different story.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they have a tough start to the season. But
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: let's get over. Let's go to it. The NFC East.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Let's go to the NFC East.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I'm going to start at the perceived bottom. The New
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: York Giants, they feel promising. Jackson darts there. Malik Nabors
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: is getting healthy. Harbaugh's in town. Cam Scadavu, year two, healthy.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to sell it. I'm trying to sell it
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: to the fans.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of hype. I mean, John Harbaugh has
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: You know, plus 600 is not that bad, especially compared
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: to a team like the Dolphins.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: No, here's my concern. Malik Nabors is coming off ACL and,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I believe, a meniscus tear. Is he going to be
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: sort of Odell Beckham Jr.? The second. And Odell Beckham Jr.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: is there, but he's too old. We've talked about this
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: a lot. Jackson Dart, can he stay healthy?
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: By the way, can we talk about that play right there?
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I don't want Jackson Dart running a pitch option with
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Cam Scadaboo this season.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: But they're going to. Those two guys can't help it, Paul.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: They love getting, they like being knocked silly, it feels like.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: They love, they're overly physical.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Right. What was it, Jackson Dart's father was a linebacker?
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Jackson Dart's father was a DB at Utah back in
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: the day. He's got defensive mentality in a quarterback's body.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I do like? their linebacking core, Brian Burns,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Arvell Reese, and Abdul Carter.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: That's cool.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: First of all, Brian Burns is one of my favorite
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: pass rushers. Spider-Man, he is incredible. If Arvell Reese is
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: as good as he looked in training camp clips, that
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: could be a really good unit.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: So maybe it's not this year, but remember the peak
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Eli Manning days? Justin Tuck, O.C., all those guys. Strahan,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: they won with those four.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Same formula. And Jackson Dart's a good enough quarterback.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: The question is, will he be helping?
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Will he run and slide? All right, let's get to
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: your Washington Commanders, Pearl. Jaden Daniels is back. Don't shake
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: him off yet. Two years ago, they're in the NFC
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: title game.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Way ahead of schedule.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Way ahead of schedule. It turns out that schedule may
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: never be happy. Last year, they fell apart. Paul, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: don't like this team. I don't know if it's vibes.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: There's just something off about it. Obviously, they lose their
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: left tackle. Huge issue. Jaden Daniels is talking about injury prone.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like he's going to get killed this year,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: and I don't like the fact that their wide receiving
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: core is getting older. Show me something to get excited
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: about with Washington.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I'm going to differ you with this one.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I like the promise they showed a couple years ago,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: and there had to be something there. Jaden Daniels, a
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: year and a half ago, if you said you could
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: start your team with a young quarterback, people would have
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: picked him His injury shifted the bandwagon to Caleb Williams
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: and Drake May, as we said before. I think it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: going to be a bounce back of your big time,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: and you're looking at me like you have no chance.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: The Stephon Diggs signing, that's exactly what a guy like
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: him needs.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, come on. Stephon Diggs.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: Last call.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: About older receivers, you know, receivers hit 30 and usually
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: fall off a cliff. I feel like Diggs already fell
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: off that cliff. Can't get excited about them.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Let's get to the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas has improved on defense.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: The offense was top three in the league last year.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Cowboys this year, next year, no chance.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: The hype is real about the Cowboys. I mean, the
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: hype is there. I'm seeing some Super Bowl picks. Nine
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: and a half is their win total, Paul. That's a
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: lot for a team.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: Is that lower than usual?
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: They only had seven wins last year, so I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: that makes sense. But I think people are overestimating the
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: defense a little bit. A rookie safety is going to
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: transform the whole unit? Has that ever happened?
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say Derwin James at his peak or
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Ed Reed at his peak, but I'm giving you the
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: best of the best.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: And also, those guys probably take a little bit of time.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I know how you hold Ed Reed on a pedestal.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I hold Brian Dawkins in Philly. It's the best safety
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: of all time. We can get that later.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: The Cowboys could easily start out 2-0 there.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, listen. Their offense is going to be great.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: It was last year. Dak Prescott's a quality quarterback. But
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: even if they have that year, remember they kept going
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: 12-5 with Mike McCarthy? Do they scare you in the playoffs?
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, in the playoffs?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they do because I think their defense
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: has improved. The Micah Parsons trade right now is working
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: out for them.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Not so fastball. Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs? Come on.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: At some point, it has to happen like an eclipse.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: It has to happen once a generation. All right, let's
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: get to your squad, your Philadelphia Eagles. They're always in
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: the mix. They're very consistent.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: A.J.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Brown is gone by design. They're the most, to me,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: the most confusing team in the NFC East.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: How so?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: That It could be a Super Bowl win or Nick
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Sirianni could be on the hot seat in November.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll tell you why they're confusing to me.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Sean Mannion is their offensive coordinator. Our buddy. Yeah, first
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: of all, he's a good friend of not-so-fast.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: Close friend of not-so-fast.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the nicest guys in the NFL industry.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Too nice for Philly?
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe, but also he's inexperienced. So the Eagles have had
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: trouble with inexperienced play callers during this Nick Sirianni run.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I'm a little bit worried about that. And you need
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Taequann Barkley to carry Jalen Hurts. Listen, Jalen Hurts is
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: a polarizing figure. He is what he is. He's played
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: enough that we know his game. He's going to show
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: up in certain big games. He's going to be inconsistent
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: during the season. What's the guy who is going to
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: be consistent? Saquon Barkley. If they can run Saquon as
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: much as they did two years ago, then I'm very
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: confident in this offense. If not, I don't know. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: don't want to put too much on Jalen Hurts' shoulders.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Would the fans turn on Jalen Hurts?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: They would turn on him if they were for him
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: in the first place. Quarterbacks in Philadelphia are strange players.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Strange tale. They didn't like Donovan McNabb despite all his success.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: They love Randall Cunningham.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Nah, not so much. Not so much. I remember there
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: were people calling the sports station saying, put in Bubby
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Brister over him. So they don't love Jalen Hurts. And
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts is definitely a bit of a quiet guy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: He doesn't really get the crowd fired up or do anything.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia likes emotion. I mentioned Brian Dawkins, who wore his
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: heart on his sleeve. They love that. Jalen Hurts is
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: too cool. But as far as Super Bowl... They've been
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: every other year under Sirianni.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Is there a Super Bowl team in the division?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: If any, it'd be the Eagles, because they have some...
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: By default. Well, by default. But also, they have Jalen Carter,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Cooper DeGene, Quinion Mitchell on defense. They can be a
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: lead on both sides of the ball. But to me,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: you know what? I'm sorry. The inexperienced play caller is
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: what I come back to.
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: That's the AFC and NFC East. A lot more tomorrow
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: in the NFL with the kickoff on NBC.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Coming up next, it's time for the Clip Joint. We'll
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: chop it up. We're going to talk time zones, which
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: we don't understand. and others don't understand.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Stick around. Not so fast.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Were you aware that the clock in the stadium and
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: the clock with the officials or the replay center don't
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: sync up?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: No, I had never heard that before. Again, it synced
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: up except for a couple of hundreds, right? And that
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: just kind of came into play. I know in this
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: world we live in, the impression is that, oh, okay,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the man stepped in and the Big Ten wasn't going
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: to let Michigan lose another Appalachian State-type game in the
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: big house, and so.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: They're going to do what they could.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Listen, they still had to make a play at the end,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: and Western still could have defended it a lot better.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: But, yeah, I.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I did learn something. That was going on like we
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: were getting ready for our game and we're going, wait,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: what happened? And we couldn't figure it out. And then
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: it started to get out and get the phones blowing up.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Western Michigan got screwed.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast, Pabst and Perloff, NBC Sports
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Now every day.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Now, I love that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: That's a great question by Dan. Did you know there
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: was two different clocks at the end of the game?
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Chris Fowler is a measured voice of college football. He's
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: been working in the sport for 40 years. He's if
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: not the face, one of the faces of college football,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: he didn't know there.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Was two clocks.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had the thought, how many games has Chris
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Fowler done? How many big games?
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Most of them.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Everybody watching. Yeah. Most of them. Yes. And if he
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: didn't even know that, it does show what an anomaly
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: would happen on Saturday night.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: It's not something that they should have rehearsed. That being said,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Chris Fowler, I don't think he said one way was
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: right or wrong. He basically said it was kind of
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: an unfortunate incident because no one really knew.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Well, what's great about having Fowler on the show, and
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: we have him pretty regularly, we've known him for years,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Dan's known him for decades, is that he is a
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: very big voice of reason. He'll present both sides. He's
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: not a hot take guy. He's a guy who'll give
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: you deeper perspective from a pure expert on the college football,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: especially the broadcast of college football.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. How long have you known Fowler? Did you ever
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: get to work with him?
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I worked with Fowler for two years, him and Kirk Herbstreet,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: when I started ESPN. And he's one of the best
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: of all time. I mean, he started Scholastic Sports America
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: back in the day. But he calls, like you said,
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: all the big games and tennis and other things. But
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: it's great to have his availability on the show for...
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: He wasn't calling this game, so he's kind of a
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: neutral party.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've been around him when he's at
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the Dan Patrick show. It seems like he has great
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: chemistry with Dan going back to the mothership. That being said...
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: He basically said, I haven't seen this. The fact that,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: to me, Chris Fowler has no experience in this situation
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: speaks to how unusual it was. But now, after we
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: have all this happening, Paul, there's no excuse next time
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: it happens.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Well, but it still is conference by conference. There's not
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: an overriding body. If this were the NFL, there's one
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: central office. It's not like Jacksonville games have a different clock.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Maybe they wish they did. But every team in the
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: NFL is under the same jurisdiction.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't care what conference you are. You
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: call your officials today. You get on the horn on Tuesday.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: And you say, we are going with the TV clock.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: There's too much money out there being bet. There's too
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: much money at stake. They have to be as transparent
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: as possible. And by the way, I like what they're
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: doing now. With some boost, ACC, you could hear the
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: chit-chat between the official replay and the actual on-field official.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: That should be everywhere now.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Look at you, Perloff from NSF calling out college football.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I like it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Well, it seems obvious at this point. It's just become
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: too big of an industry.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, especially with that Western Michigan loss. All right, let's
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: get to it. Bill Belichick, who has had a good
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: start of the season on the field with the TCU in.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Michael Lombardi resigns. There's an investigation going on. Bill at
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: some point has to talk to the media. And here's
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: how that went.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: Why do you think questions are being asked by investigators
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: about sex and drug use within the program? Yeah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: Talk to the other guy, Sam.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: You know, your GM steps down. amid the investigation, your
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: son's on medical leave, amid questions from investigators about drugs.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Pat, I understand where you keep asking those questions.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I can't speak about that. It's already been talked about.
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: Well, I guess just the question then would just be,
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: what indications do we have based on the last year
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: and everything that's been reported that you have control of
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: this program?
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's, if you're around here every day,
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I think it's it.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: A couple things there on those responses by Bill. First
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: of all, I hope you had closed captioning. Secondly, he
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: was practicing biting his lip so much that he actually
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: bit his lip, it looks like there. But he found
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: a way to say nothing and not get criticized for it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he won. Now, if they had lost, Paul,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: would people have reacted differently to this?
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: But they were off this weekend.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: They didn't even have a game to win. I think
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: they have East Tennessee State next week. But he basically said,
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: talk to the bosses. Aren't you the boss of the
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: football program? Didn't you hire Mike Lombardi? Are you going
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: to defer to, you know, Robert Kraft, in the old days,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: you'd do that. Now you're deferring to the athletic director?
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's pure Bill Belichick. And by the way, how
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: do you think the reporter did sort of holding up there?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: It's hard. I think he's terrifying, Bill Belichick. I've been
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: in press rooms. I know you have too with Belichick.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: He is not easy to ask questions.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: See, I disagree on that because I think the North
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Carolina media knows that in three years, Bill Belichick will
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: not be present at North Carolina football games in charge
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: of the place, whether he goes pro or goes home,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: because those are the only two options for Bill Belichick's future.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to be the coach there
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: in three years. If I'm a North Carolina reporter, I'm
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: going to step on the gas because I don't have
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: access to him anyway. I'm never going to have direct
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: access to this guy. Look up the reporters back in
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: New England. So why not just go, I'm going to
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: press this and make Bill answer something and not mumble?
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Dan, ever interviewed Belichick on the DP show? I'm sure elsewhere.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know that he's ever had a sit-down of
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: any way with him. Dan's talked to him off the
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: air before, and I don't know if he had a sit-down.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: It's interesting. All right, I'm going back to the NFL.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: The Ravens are favored to come out of AFC this year.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And Derek Henry talked about how he feels about not
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: getting to a Super Bowl yet.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: I want to win a Super Bowl. So that's a
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: big motivation. I just want to be able to feel
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: that feeling. I'm tired of watching. Every year I'm tired
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: of being at home on the couch watching. I want
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: to be a part of it. So that's what motivates
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: me right now. And I'm going to keep going until
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: we get to that point.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, if he doesn't want to be on
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: the couch, Paul, you know my suggestion. Go to a
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: party instead.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: So Derek Henry, instead of sitting at home, should just
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: fly in if he doesn't make the Super Bowl.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: And just, I mean, people invite him to parties.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: You'd invite him. Oh, my God. I mean, he's a
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: big guy. I think he would eat a lot, so
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: that's a bit of an issue.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: But if we roll into a Super Bowl party with
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Derrick Henry, instead of you and I being on the outside,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: we're now on the inside.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: You know, I was surprised at the Ravens. The odds
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: are so good. They're the favorite in the AFC, sort
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: of tied with the Bills. I'm not sure the Ravens
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: are headed that way. What do we know about new
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: coach Jesse Minter? What do we know about Derrick Henry?
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Is he going to be able to keep up this
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: level of effectiveness as he gets into his 30s?
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I like one more good year out of him, two
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: more good years out of him. I still think they
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: have the talent. The wide receiver position is always in flux,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: but Zay Flowers seems like he's a guy, maybe not
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: the guy, but I feel pretty good about the Ravens
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Well, it's two guys who have not won in the postseason.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Two probable surefire Hall of Famers, quarterback Lamar Jackson and
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry. Again, as you said, I'm sick of watching
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. I don't know if there's time for
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: him to get there, Paul.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to Kyle Shanahan, the head coach
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: of the 49ers. Now, Kyle Shanahan... He's on his way
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: or left a week ago to go to Australia. And
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: he was trying to get his time zones correct as
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: the head coach or the boss set the tone.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Here's how that went.
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: When I look at my clock and it says the time,
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: and then I try to see my family's time, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: it says the time, but it says yesterday.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: I don't even get how that's possible.
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: So I feel like I'm in the future. And then
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: also when we play on our Friday, which I think
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: is a Thursday in the U.S., we're such creatures of habit.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: So I call today Tuesday.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: No, wait.
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: Sorry, I call today Wednesday, which is the first day
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: we put in a game plan. But I think it's Monday. However, though,
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: it's Sunday in the present.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: So, like, I'm going to.
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: Mess that up all week if you guys ask me.
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: But today is just our first day of the game plan,
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: which is a Wednesday. We'll put in some on a Thursday.
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: Friday is the final part of the game plan. Saturday
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: we walk through when we play on Sunday, which is
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: a Friday in Australia and a Thursday in the U.S.
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: So don't ever make me do that again.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: That clears that up. You know, I love that about
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan. He's a pure football guy. Football guys don't
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: need to know time zones. Tell me when Sunday is.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Tell me when kickoff is.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: You know, it's been a pretty bad offseason for San Francisco. Obviously,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan got in a car accident. The owner had his...
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: extracurricular activities.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Nicely said.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I feel like Kyle Shanahan's making a comeback. That was hysterical.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even understand what he was saying.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: And I don't think that was on purpose.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: I think he was actually trying to get it and
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: he got into it and he couldn't find his way
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: out of the time zone thing.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And listen, I get it. I've been actually Googling
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: about five times. Like what time is it actually for
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: the bodies of the Niners and the Rams players? Definitely
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: around 3 a.m.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: I get confused when I go back to Chicago. I
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: think it's one time zone away. All right, let's get
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: to this before we break. This is called the rando,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: something we saw this weekend that you should see. Now, Perloff,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Of course, I was cruising Facebook Marketplace, and I saw
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: this piece of gold come up for only $ 2, 500. This
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Bears tailgate van.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Whoa.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: How much did you say it was?
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Two-wheel drive.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: It's $ 2, 500 listed. I think I can talk him down.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: You can make a van that's two-wheel drive? I don't know.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: It looks in solid condition for an 89 Astro van.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Look at this gorgeous piece of material. Look at that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Four seats. A grass field in case a game breaks out.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: AM and FM?
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: You can only take it to Bears games. What if
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: we want to go to a different game?
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: How do I convince my wife that I could buy this? Like,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: what move? Is there a move? Do I have any
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: moves on this?
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: There is zero move for a team-themed van. I mean, listen,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: vans are already a hard sell, but then you put
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: a sports thing on it. Although, I mean, not to
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: get too personal, but you did name a child after
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Walter Payton. Exactly.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: And everyone should name their children after Walter Payton, if
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I have anything to say about it.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: All right, coming up next. Oh, I can't wait. constructive criticism,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: the feel good, and much, much more. Stick around. Not
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: so fast.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: All right. Welcome back to not so fast. Now, every
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: day we do leftovers, Paul, certain sports topics that we
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: didn't get to. And last night when we did Kyle
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Shannon from Australia talking about the time change, I think
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: to be fair, we need to hear from Sean McVay.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: The Rams are leaving today or tonight for Australia. And
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: McVay was asked if he's concerned about their plan.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: He seems concerned.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: He seems really concerned. Well, listen, it, Sound waves and
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: TV waves take a long time to get from Australia,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: so that's what happened there.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: But you go back to that.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: The Rams, we're going to judge this game by the
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: travel plans of these two teams because the Rams, like
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: you said, I think they're in the air as we speak,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: and I think they're keeping all their watches on L.A.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: time and just ignoring the fact that they're in another country.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think you're going to determine who had
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: a better plan by who wins. We actually do have
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: the McVay sound. Let's check it out.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: What gives me confidence is I'm not going to really
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: make it a big deal. It's, hey, this is what
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the reality is. We've got a long way to go.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: But let's be ready to rock, you know, when that
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: three hour window that we're allotted comes. And and that's
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: what it is. And, you know, to spend a bunch
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: of time and talking about it, you know, and I
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: get it with you guys, too. Like, I understand your
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: guys questions. But, you know, for me, you know, I've
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: kind of told you guys what our approach is and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: our expectation is our guys will be ready to go.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm not really I'm not worrying about it because
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I know what our plans are. We're going to follow
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: that plan and then we're going to focus on our
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: preparation and try to go be at our best and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: go swing when we get a chance to play against
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: a great team.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: You know, McVay sounds really confident, but I'm not buying it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I like what the Niners are doing. I'm seeing them
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: over there going to Australian rules football games. I know
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: my body, Paul. When I land somewhere else in a
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: different time zone. I am not ready to go.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: I once went to Dublin for 48 hours, and I
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: didn't feel really good at the back end, but I
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: felt fine on the front end of the trip.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: That's because you were drunk.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the entire time.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: No, I like the Niners' approach a lot better. I
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: understand what McVay is saying, but I'd like to talk
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: to the sleep scientists.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, we're going to have them tomorrow on Not So Fast.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: It's time for a constructive criticism. Your thoughts, Twitter, just
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: hit us back. Say what you want to say about
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: the show, about my shirt, about the football weekend.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Here you go, Pearl. I've got a couple for you.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: Constructive criticism.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Prior to Western Michigan, college football teams were 110,352-0 when
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: leading at the end of regulation.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: That's actually correct. If you win the game, you don't
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: usually lose the game.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not much you can say back to that.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of college football.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: 1869.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember, yeah, University of Chicago was a four-point
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: favorite over Harvard.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: And they covered. All right, let's get to the next one.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Constructive criticism.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: How many more games until the New York Jets' defense
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: breaks the interceptionless streak?
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: I'm calling my shot.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Jets not only get an interception, they get a pick
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: six week one and make fun of the story.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny. In the preseason, they had
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: some picks, and everyone made such a big deal of it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I get that record, but there's a little more going
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: on with New York than just getting an interception.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: And against Cam Ward, he might be good for one.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he likes to play fast and loose. I'm actually
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: down on the Jets a little bit. I'm going to
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: say week eight.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: All right, last constructive criticism. We don't see these in advance. Oh,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: this is a tweet from Paul Pabst. Following is a
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: true story. Yes, I went out of town for the
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: weekend and I packed up toiletries, headphones, phone charger, sunglasses.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I literally forgot to pack clothes into my weekend bag.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Was that a subconscious effort to buy new clothes, Paul?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Is that what was going on?
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Well, that's how it worked out.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I was actually wearing a shirt on Saturday night when
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: I met my friends that had the tag on it,
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: like I was going to a dance and I just
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: bought the suit.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: But going without any clothes, it's kind of freeing. It's
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: a little freeing.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, A, you're probably a little overextended, but, B,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: imagine if you got to Super Bowl week and you
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: had just one outfit.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I can tell you for a fact, I once went
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: on a road trip with Dan Patrick. I think it
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: was the Fiesta Bowl, and he did not bring clothes,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: but I think it was a choice.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: We went to the mall. He bought everything at the
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: mall and brought it all home.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I love it. But you're good now? You have something
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: to wear?
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: I got something to wear. This shirt may have been
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: bought two days ago.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: Who knows?
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to something we like to call
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: the feel good. Put you in a good mood before
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: you end your day on Not So Fast. Bro, you're
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: going to like this one. Notre Dame fans will like
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: this one. Wisconsin fans, not so much.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, come on.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: They did the Lambeau Leaf.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: That's like checking the box. It's like going to the
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Pat's or Gino's in Philadelphia.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: See, Notre Dame are traditionally not big celebrators. So is
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: this out of character? You're a Notre Dame fan, Paul.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's a little out of character.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: They usually sing after the game. But you're in Lambeau
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: once in your career. Lambeau Leaf. The bros are there.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: Tarps off. Let's go.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Why not? You know what it speaks to me? Wisconsin
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: was unthreatening. They had no fear of them. And those uniforms,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: they were wearing Ohio State red. I didn't like anything
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Wisconsin was putting out there.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those Wisconsin uniforms are questionable. And the not-so-feel-good, we
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: forgot to mention this, but let's mention it, SMU Florida
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: State last night, powerless for the first hour and a half.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: That really put a crimp in my plans for the night, Paul,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: because I was psyched to watch SMU. So what happened?
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Have we figured it out yet?
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: We don't know.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: But getting an electrician on a holiday weekend short notice,
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: that must have.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Been costly for FSU's athletic department. Check on the budget there.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: That's our show for today. Much more tomorrow. Getting you
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: ready for the NFL season tomorrow. The Dan Patrick Tomorrow Show.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Where is that game tomorrow, Paul?
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: That is in, oh, on NBC Sports.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: It's in Seattle.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's in Seattle technically.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Pacific time zone. That's not that complicated.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: NBC Sports. All right, thanks a lot for listening. Tune
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: in tomorrow.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: We'll be here. Take it easy.