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Set 2: GBF- Big Week for Losers (w/Charles McDonald) · Stugotz and Company

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: God bless football. Mikey, eh?
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: God bless football, Taylor.
• 0:16
  Speaker 3: God bless football, Stugatz.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: He is fired up. Carolina won. He has winners and losers.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Charles McDonald is going to join us from the Athletic.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: It was a great, great football weekend. You guys watching
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: the baseball?
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: I'm watching the Dodgers lose.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: You made TV, too. Yeah, I made TV, too. That's
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: very nice of you.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: If there's one thing I can get behind right now
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: in baseball, it's the Dodgers losing.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes. I think everyone can get behind that. I
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: think the players want that. They can point and say, see,
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: you don't need to trade for Scooble. You can still win.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Mike.
• 0:49
  Speaker 4: This is God bless football, but Taylor, this Brewers team
• 0:53
  Speaker 4: could be what the Yankees team is if they had
• 0:55
  Speaker 4: any kind of direction without power pitching.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Move some runners over, force the issue. I'm just saying.
• 1:03
  Speaker 3: The Yankees, like, look at the Brewers. Like, the Brewers
• 1:05
  Speaker 3: could win the World Series. Again, I don't want to
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: get into baseball right now. The Brewers could win the
• 1:09
  Speaker 3: World Series, and the Yankees will be like, oh, what
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: a fluke this Brewers team is.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: Yes. I asked, and I realized I asked during God
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: Bless Football.
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: I was surprised that Mikey followed me with an extra
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: little bonus take that he had about the Brewers and
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: the Yankees. The Brewers get to the same place the
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: Yankees get and lose. I mean... No difference.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: Station to station, this is a football show. It doesn't matter. Taylor,
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: you have winners and losers for us?
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Give me the music.
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: My first loser.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: Hold on a second. Mikey, what are you laughing at?
• 1:48
  Speaker 4: I'm laughing at my first one is going to be
• 1:51
  Speaker 4: my first loser is going to be the Washington Commanders,
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: even though they tied, they're a loser.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: And the Giants won, even though they also tied.
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: Big winners. I mean, they're one of my winners.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Big winners. Taylor, you go first.
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: Taylor, kick us off. Go ahead.
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: My first loser, the entire NFC East. The NFC East
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: is the NFC South with better PR. It's a terrible division.
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: They went winless this week, and two of them played
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: each other.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Almost impossible.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: Ask the Giants if they feel like losers today. Seriously.
• 2:29
  Speaker 4: Listen, the one team lost to an 0-4 team, one
• 2:33
  Speaker 4: team lost despite being up with eight seconds left, and.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: The other two played each other. All four, no wins.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: That's a great loser. Uh, Mikey, you're up. Do you
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: have a winner or a loser? Or are we just
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: staying with Taylor? I do.
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: No, I've got a loser here. Um, Owen Shying is
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: the punter for Townsend. And sometimes you got to know
• 2:54
  Speaker 4: what you are and know what you're not. If you're
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: a punter, you can't be making tackles. I advise anybody,
• 3:01
  Speaker 4: if you're a little squeamish, don't watch what happened to
• 3:04
  Speaker 4: Owen Shying when he tried to make a meaningless tackle
• 3:07
  Speaker 4: as somebody was diving into the end zone because his
• 3:10
  Speaker 4: arm moved in a way that should not move, and
• 3:13
  Speaker 4: it was really disturbing to watch. But sometimes, punter, just
• 3:17
  Speaker 4: punt the ball and get out of the way.
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your job. Punt, get out of the way.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: What do you got, Taylor?
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: So I have another loser. And before we were going
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: macro with the NFC East.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 3:29
  Speaker 3: Going micro here. Another loser, Jaden Daniels, because we've got
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: to give a congratulations to Jaden Daniels for being the
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: dumbest player in a game that featured Jameis Winston and
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: Cam Scadaboo.
• 3:41
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: Jameis would have known what to do. I mean, he
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: would have. Scadaboo, they let him off the hook, man. Oh, yes.
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: Nobody was more relieved to see that time tick down
• 3:52
  Speaker 3: than Cam Scadaboo once he processed what was happening.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, had a big fumble that could have cost the
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: Giants the game there.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: All right, I got another loser. I have a loser.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: All right, go ahead. I'm not supposed to play the game.
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: No, you can play it.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: We want you to play it. Thank you. I know
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: his team won, but D'Amico Ryan's loser took over the
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: play-calling responsibilities against Cam Ward, who's always on 3rd and Longstreet.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: And now he's going to take credit. He's celebrating after
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: the game. Let's start and do something special. You're 1-4, man,
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: with a world-class defense.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: Enough.
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Mikey, you're up.
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: Loser.
• 4:32
  Speaker 4: Loser for the weekend. Everybody involved in the Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: Trade.
• 4:37
  Speaker 4: Because, I mean, the Cardinals wasted a top five pick.
• 4:42
  Speaker 4: They got back a day two pick for him. The
• 4:45
  Speaker 4: Texans traded for this guy because, oh, he's got all
• 4:47
  Speaker 4: this talent. Go look at the history of players traded
• 4:50
  Speaker 4: within the first three years of their rookie contract, and
• 4:54
  Speaker 4: you will find nobody on the list who made an
• 4:57
  Speaker 4: impact going forward.
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: It felt like Marvin Harrison Jr. was about as safe
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: as a prospect could be coming out of Ohio State
• 5:04
  Speaker 3: with that number four pick. Now he reunites with C.J. Stroud.
• 5:08
  Speaker 3: My bigger concern with Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: Is C.J.
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  Speaker 3: Stroud does not throw to receivers that are very tightly contested.
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: Nobody is more tightly contested than Marvin Harrison Jr. when
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: it comes to running routes. There's a DB basically on
• 5:21
  Speaker 3: top of Marvin Harrison Jr. every time Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: goes out to run a route.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: The Cardinals, man, flashy with the picks. They don't have
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. You might want to get that first. I mean,
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying Marvin Harrison would be better if he
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: had a quarterback. I'm not saying Jeremiah Love would be
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: better if they had a quarterback, but they're doing this
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: in reverse order. They're going wide receiver, running back, and
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Bursette.
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: If you're the Dolphins, I know the Dolphins right now
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: look as bad as you could get.
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: You paid Malik Willis, but it seems like the impression
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: is you're just going to draft a quarterback next year
• 5:55
  Speaker 3: anyways with whatever pick you get, probably a top three pick.
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: He was bad yesterday, yep.
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: He was bad?
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: But is there any part of you, if you're the Dolphins,
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: where you consider drafting Jeremiah Smith if you get a
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: top three pick?
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: No, you're doing what the Cardinals did, music.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're doing what the Cards did, essentially, right? Well,
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: I guess, well.
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: What I guess I'm asking is, do you think Malik
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: Willis is getting a fair shake this year when you
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: look at the weapons that he's playing with in Miami? Like,
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: if you look at Miami's depth chart, it's as bleak
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: as a depth chart as you could get.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: How much money did they pay Malik Willis in the offseason?
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: He got.
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: Three years, $ 67 million, 45 fully guaranteed.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: All right, so they paid him $ 67 million to be
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: in a bad position. Yeah. And who wouldn't take $ 67
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: million to sit out on that field and play football
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: with the rest of those Dolphins?
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: The casual NFL fan has never heard of Malik Washington,
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: Caleb Douglas, Chris Bell, Ryan Miller, Jalen Tolbert, and Kevin
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: Coleman Jr.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: Or Ollie Gordon III, yes. Unless you picked him up
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: on waivers. He was a stud at Oklahoma State. Six-round pick,
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: which is why you don't take Jeremiah Love fourth overall. Sorry.
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: What's really interesting about this, though, like they're going to, oh,
• 7:17
  Speaker 4: we're tanking, we're going to get the quarterback. Okay, you
• 7:20
  Speaker 4: get the quarterback, and you're bringing him into what? Taylor
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: just listed those names, and I'm like, oh, okay, every
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: rookie quarterback will succeed playing with those guys.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, if you're a good quarterback, you'll make any
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: situation good, and then hopefully they build from there, I think.
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: Perfect transition, Stu, because I got another loser.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Any winners?
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: No, this was a big week for losers.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: I actually have another loser, too.
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: It was. It was a big week for the losers, though.
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, we saw losing in ways we've never seen
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: losing before. It was fantastic.
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: On the topic of if you're a good quarterback, you'll
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: make any situation work, my next loser, Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert,
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: I would not be surprised at this point if Justin
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: Herbert goes down the Andrew Luck path where he looks
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: at his fiancee, Madison Beer, and then he looks back
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: at Jim Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel looking as lost as
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: two coaches could look on his sideline and says, you
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: know what? I don't really need this.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Where'd he go to school? Justin Herbert?
• 8:19
  Speaker 6: Oregon.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: GM of Oregon football?
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, he got like $ 150 million guaranteed. Like Justin Herbert.
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: If Justin Herbert never wants to work another day in
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: his life, he's earned that right. And you look at
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: people make excuses. Like Herbert didn't pass 100 yards passing
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: until the final minute of that game on Sunday where
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: he was sacked five times. He fumbled the interception. The
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: interception was about as bad as an interception could get
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: for a quarterback.
• 8:50
  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: That whole team is a bunch of losers. Sorry. Too harsh? Wow.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are. Jim Harbaugh, great coach.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Anyway, go ahead, Mike.
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: I got another loser. Here you go. Luther Burden.
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: There's few things you do not want to be called
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: in the NFL, and they are called a lot of names.
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: One of them is soft, and the other one is
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: a quitter. And not only did they get their butts
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: kicked by the Green Bay Packers, but after the game,
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: linebacker Zyre Franklin said Luther Burden quit.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: He didn't want to play anymore.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: Loser.
• 9:32
  Speaker 5: Loser.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: I have a winner, oddly, Nick Sirianni. Now, listen, he
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: was a big loser at the time.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: All of this doesn't sound right. You have a winner,
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: and it was Nick Sirianni.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I had a loser in D'Amico Ryans who won,
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: and Nick Sirianni, who lost, is a winner. He only
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: won because of just how bad Dan Quinn was later
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: on that afternoon. It made us forget about Nick Sirianni. Now,
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia hasn't forgotten. but I can only speak for myself here.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: When I saw what happened at the end of the
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: Washington game and the New York Giants, I I totally
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: forgot about what Nick Sirianni did at 1130 in the morning.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: That's you, though. Like, Eagles fans probably didn't watch another
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: snap of football yesterday. Also, that game was starting to
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: bleed into the 1 o'clock window. I did not like
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: that where I'm having to choose between the early game
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: and the late game. Like, that game went on forever.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: Right, because the start of the 1 o'clock games is
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: a rush. Sacred, yeah. Yeah, but that was a good game.
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: The rare good game in London, huh?
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: I'm the first one to bash an international game. International
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: games have been having moments recently.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you put the Jags and the Eagles out there,
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: they'll have some moments.
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: I have a winner.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: What?
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: Drake May.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: Big winner. Drake May absolutely.
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: Carves up the Las Vegas Raiders. So we were wondering,
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: are the Raiders real? I think we got a pretty
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: definitive answer that the Raiders might not be real after
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: that emotional game against the Kansas City Chiefs, which was
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: basically the Raiders Super Bowl. Drake May, 374 yards passing,
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: four touchdowns passing. If Drake May is playing with confidence,
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: watch out. The Drake May demise was greatly exaggerated.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: I think. It was. It's been two weeks now where
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: he has fixed whatever it was that was wrong with him. Mechanics,
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: Sims told us.
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: But we'll say at the end of the season, oh,
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: the Raiders wasn't that good of a win on the schedule,
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: even though at the time the Raiders were one of
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: the better teams.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: In the AFC. Mendoza time, huh? He doesn't look ready. Hey,
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: you got one more with Kirk? Take him out for
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: one more. See if he has one final ride in him.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: All right, I've got a winner.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: All right, before we get to Charles McDonald here from
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: The Athletic, go ahead.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Jalen Warren.
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: Every time that guy is touching the ball right now,
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: it's going to the house.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: He's good.
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: Every time he's getting the ball, it is a big
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: play after big play.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: That guy is winning people fantasy games left and right.
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: I have one more winner, actually.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: Wow, exciting. Who do you have?
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: The 49ers defense.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Wow, not the offense, huh?
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: No, just the defense.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: The Niners, like you go into a Seattle-San Francisco game expecting–
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: the Seattle defense to be the story. The Niners sacked
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold five times. They forced four turnovers. They recorded
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: seven tackles for a loss. Fred Warner has absolutely perfected
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: the punch out where I think Fred Warner. Fred Warner's
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: a first ballot Hall of Famer. The second he retires,
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: he's going into the Hall of Fame.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: But the NFL has perfected that. The punch out. They
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: really have.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: There are some running backs right now from the 90s
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: and the 80s that are like, thank God I am
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: not in today's NFL because I would have fumbled. so
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: many like tiki barber you already had a fumbling problem
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: yes tiki barber would have been out of the nfl
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: in like three years.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: Chris collinsworth said it on the broadcast last night he
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: said i'm glad i'm not playing today i would have
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: fumbled a thousand times also in.
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: That 49ers game where the niners get the stop to
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: end the game yeah the last play cooper cup very
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: close to getting the first down i think that's on
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: the ref there to recognize like hey we've got a
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: moment here and you just ruined it like i think
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: it's almost like tie goes to the runner in baseball
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: right Ty should go to the cool moment in football.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Put it on the poll. Should Ty go to the
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: cool moment in football? I'm with you. He broke that
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: plane of glass they were talking about. I so badly.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: It was a first down, man. I thought it was
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: very clearly a first down, but then like. Once you're
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: watching the replays, the fact that it was called short
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: on the field, you knew they didn't have enough to
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: overturn it. Yes, it's a terrible rule. I'm with you.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: The cool factor should prevail in those situations. Charles McDonald
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: from The Athletic next. Stugatz here. You guys know me.
• 13:55
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• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Our buddy Charles McDonald from The Athletic. He's in an
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: apartment now. I told him I preferred when he was
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: roaming around some sort of alley, which he was doing
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: the last time he joined us. He is with The Athletic.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: He is live streaming Falcons games, and he did so
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: last night so people could watch his death. Charles is
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: with us right now. Put us there. Just put me
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: in the room. Before we get to the Falcons, the
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: entirety of the game, just put us there. What was
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Charles McDonald thinking the first time he saw Tua run
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: out on the field?
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be honest with you. I barely remember
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: even seeing him come on the field at this point.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: So sometimes human brains, when they go through a traumatic event,
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: you'll start deleting memories so that you start to feel
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: better about things as they go along. And I remember
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: seeing Pennis go down And then I remember seeing like.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: Tua on the field and I knew it was over.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: I knew immediately. I knew it was over because like, I, I,
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: I used to say this at the, when, like when Tua,
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: Tua non-mania was at its peak.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: When I was watching those games, I was like, dude, like,
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Tua kind of does this thing where it's like, it's
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: like he, it's like he plays like the defense isn't there,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: you know, like, okay, well, we went through this play
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: in practice and the play card says to throw it here.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: So I'm just going to drop back through my little
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: shuffle and then I'm just going to throw the ball there.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: But like there's 11 players on defense though, you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: and it works. It works when there's like Mike McDaniel
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: and you've got Tyreek Hill as peak and Jalen Waddle,
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: but like, this ain't quite that.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: They got some good players.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: So like, you're still going to have to like react
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: to the defense. He just didn't do it. And then like, When, when,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: when Kyle Hamilton was the first person I saw, like
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: as the camera moves, when the ball was in the air, right.
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: I kind of like blacked out for a second. Yes.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: The most predictable result of all time.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: And it still hurt so.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Damn bad because it was just like another classic Falcons
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: L at the end to Mike panics, this guy, like
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: after the game, he's, he's talking about, Oh, well, you know, if,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: if we, if we got the ball first in overtime,
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: I probably would have been out there. Oh, then why
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: didn't you come out there when they had the ball
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: with more.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: Times for cover from whatever injury, right?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: More time, the rest.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: What does that mean?
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: And then he said, he said, knowing me, I'll probably
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: play next week.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: Knowing you know, you will never see him play again.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: What are you talking about? This, this is a guy like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: who was medically cleared to play the first two weeks
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: of the season and chose not to play because he
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: mentally wasn't ready, which is fine. Like respect that boundary,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: but also know yourself. And I know you might, you
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: chose not to play at the.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: Start of the season. So what do you mean knowing
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: you will be back next week?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It's horrible.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Cause I was, I was, it's like, it was such a,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: it's such an emotional rollercoaster road. You know what it's
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: like watching Cooper rush. score three points against the Panthers.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: And then four days later, they scored 35 points against
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: the Packers. And a week later they're scoring 45 against
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: the saints.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Don't I was high.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I was high. Like I was having fun. It's the
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: first time I've had fun a long time. And then
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: they took him for me again, but this time it
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: was worse. It was worse because everybody could see me.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: Everybody could see me having a bad time and that's
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: what made it so much worse.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yes. No, I love that. But at least you're in
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the NFC South, my man.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. You know, like, like they'll probably go like eight
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: and 10 or not eight until like seven, 10, eight
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: and nine.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And then I get them a playoff.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: In the draft.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I will say, I will say, and Stu, I know
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: you can relate to this, the Jets fan. I think
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: the Falcons and the Jets have the two longest playoff
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: droughts in the NFL right now. I just want to
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: see them play a game with stakes. A game with stakes. So, like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: I would take a playoff game even.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: At, like, eight and nine. But then I'm just like,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: God damn, like, what's next?
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Like, are we just going to do this again next year?
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: How are we going to get a damn quarterback that
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: can actually play through a full season?
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: That was the worst possible ending.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: You got the injury to Penix, and then you got
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: the feel-bad Tua crap, and he's just going to go
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: daughter out there again next week, and they'll probably get
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: blown out again.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: You had us all laughing with Tua at practice, just
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: going through reps like there's no defense out there. Mikey,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you were laughing the same way I was laughing. What
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: was happening there? You were envisioning it, right?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I just have this vision of Tua in the middle
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: of a game faking, like moving his shoulder like somebody
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: is swinging a pad at him in practice. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> And.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: The funny part was when they do the, the, the
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: back view, like where you can see like behind Tua
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: and the, the offensive line had parted. So like there's
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: a clear passing lane and you can see Kyle Hamilton
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: just standing right there. And he still just threw it
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: at him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: get there.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: There's, you know, I, I, I was going to say,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe, maybe I've been a kind of a denier.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I'm like, Oh, he's bad because he had concussions.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: Maybe I got to reconsider some things.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just bad, right?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Charles.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Charles, shifting to the NFL as a whole, if I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: asked you, first coach fired, Dan Quinn, Jim Harbaugh, or
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni, who would you take there?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Ooh.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Probably Dan because it might have too many L's.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: But I got to say, man, did you guys see
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: what the commander's offensive lineman, Chris Paul, not to be
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: confused with, you know, NBA choker Chris Paul.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, CP3, right? Yes.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: He said that they actually did have the instructions to
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: spike the ball or to not, like, let the clock
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: run out.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Like, the coaching staff had told them that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: And I guess, like, Jaden Daniels forgot somehow.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I thought.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So, like.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: this is sometimes like where you see like, dude, sometimes
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: the coaching staff does tell you to do the right thing,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: but it's still up to the players to actually execute.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: And I, it kind of bothered me to way that
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels took no accountability for that situation.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Like, dude, you have the ball in your hands.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: You're the only person that can stop this. And like,
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: if you get a message from.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: From Dan Quinn or the OC or whoever that says, Hey,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: When we get down there, we're going to milk the
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: clock and then we're going to run around for a
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: little bit so we can spike it and then.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: We're going to kick the field goal.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: As time expires. So even if we miss, like, we
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: still come away with a tie. Like, the only thing
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: you can't have happen there is.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: One, what they did. And then, two, like, you missed
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: a field goal with, like, 40 seconds left.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Jameis hits a big throw, and now you're losers because
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: you couldn't count down to 50. Like, that's on the
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: quarterback there. And the fact that he said it starts
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: from the top.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Down, you won't. Yes.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: On the field, you're the coach. I mean, that's what
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: he is. It's like CP3. It's like Chris Paul, your
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: basketball guy. The point guard is the coach on the floor.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: The quarterback is the coach on the field. And Jaden
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Daniels was not in any sort of rush to get
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: up once he did fall down.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Here's my theory my theory on this because okay also
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: you need to go back and listen to Jonathan Vilma
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: make this call he has no idea what's going on
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: no clue what's going on like he's sitting there talking
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: like well you know obviously they're just gonna run out
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: the clock here and just run the ball like Jonathan
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: They don't have any timeouts, but it seemed like, it
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: seemed like.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Jay had the taking a knee, right?
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Like what happened?
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: And then you, and then if you listen to the play,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: like as James running matches, getting tackled, like Bill was
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: basically saying, yeah, see, I knew I w I knew
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: they wouldn't pass there. why did you know that that's
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that's insane for you to decide that take but then
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: you realize jayden jayden's thinking the same thing too and
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: i realized i don't think jayden knew that you only
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: get two timeouts in overtime i think he was expecting
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: them to have another timeout because that's the only reason
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: you get tackled you're like well whatever it doesn't matter
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: coach about to call timeout you don't have any.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Yes but here's the thing if he thought he had
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a timeout he was in no rush to call it Yeah,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that's also a great point.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: That's also a great point. Yes.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: And it's just, like, and sometimes, like, you can tell, like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: who is actually locked into, like, what is going on
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: within the game. I think a great example is yesterday,
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars tip returner, Abner Abdullah, when he's running, you
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: can see him look up because he's trying to see
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: how much time he has left before he's going to
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: get tackled. And he knew as soon as he hit
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: the ground, he stands up. We got one second left.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Because he knows, like, if I keep running.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: We're, we're, we're not going to be able to score.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: It's over.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: That's the third string running back.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Why does your franchise quarterback not know that he doesn't
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: have any timeouts? Like that, that was, and then to let,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: to let Dan Quinn, who obviously like deserves blame for the, the,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: the Giants be able to get back into that game
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, but like letting Dan Quinn completely
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: fall on the grenade to the point where he's like
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: cutting reporters off and saying, no, like, no, that was
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: my fault. I thought that was kind of shitty from
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels on.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: A real note.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Charles, yesterday you had some head coaches making power plays.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: D'Amico Ryans in Houston, Sean Payton taking over play calling
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: in Denver. The offense for Denver, it still wasn't inspiring.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Is the biggest problem in Denver the quarterback that's being
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: asked to execute the plays?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he won't throw the ball. I don't know. I
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: don't know what his problem is.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Like, last year, it's like, like, I've always been kind
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: of like a Bo skeptic to a degree, but he's capable. And, like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: he showed that last year. Like, he has, like, some
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: real high-end plays where he can, like, zip the ball
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: down the field.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: And I honestly, like.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: What I kind of dislike about Bo is also what
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I like about him is that in the past, he
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: was willing to just rip the ball down.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: The field and take a chance.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: It might be picked, but sometimes you're going to find
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: somebody down there for a big play that can get
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: you going.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: And this year, he's just turning all that stuff down.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: I honestly thought, when I went back and looked at it,
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: the play calling with Davis Webb, it was fine. It
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: just kind of felt like this was... what Sean felt
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: like he needed to get power back. Or if I
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: can put on my cynical Falcons fan hat for a second.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Please do.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Are you guys familiar with Pete Carmichael? He was the
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: OC for the Saints for about 20 years. He was
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: the quarterback coach for the Chargers with Drew Brees before that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: never called a play one time. I think this is,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: he never called a play. Like 20 years, he was
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: off the court, earned a whole lot of money, didn't
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: do much of anything on game days besides pat Sean
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: on the back when they scored a million points. But
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I think this is Sean Payton trying to make his
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: new Pete Carmichael. It's like a Frankenstein, the monster type
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: of bit. Because Davis Webb did have a chance this
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: offseason to leave the Broncos. He could have gone to
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: the Eagles, There were other teams that were rumored that
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: wanted him to come in and be their play caller.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: But you know what really sucks?
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: Like finding a new offensive coordinator when you're the one
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: that already calls plays. What do I need to find
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: a new one for?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Just sit there, bro. I like you. Just be a figurehead. Yes, right.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe he just knows how Sean Payton likes his coffee.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Right, exactly. Exactly, right.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: Sean says, sure.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Like a break call place.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: What Davis didn't know is he's on a leash. That's
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: like two inches long. Yes.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: So when the quarterback goes through a bad stretch and
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: you're not scoring, well now song gets to call plays again.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: And guess what?
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Nobody's going to want to hire a guy who got
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: play calling privileges revoked from him four games into the season.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: So he's going to be stuck there for a few
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: more years there. Now Sean gets to mold his new
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: perma OC that never calls plays, makes his coffee.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Perfectly the perfect amount of cream, the perfect amount of sugar.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: And he gets to have his way because I don't
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: really know why you're pulling play calling duties from him.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: When you started calling plays, And the quarterback still won't
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: throw the ball. Not Davis' web fault. He got scapegoated
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: real bad there.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I was greeted by Mikey A. this morning. He said
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to me, he didn't say hello. He just said Nick
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Sirianni should send Dan Quinn some thank you flowers. Do
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: you agree?
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he should, because Nick.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Dude, I've been a Sirianni defender, kind of. Because, like, bro,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: he's got to be good at something. They win too
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: many games for him to be just a complete, total,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: useless idiot.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Like, I... Like.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know what that is. I don't know what
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: he is good at, but it's gotta be something, man.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: They went to two Super Bowls in four years and
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: should have won both of them. Could have won both
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: of them for sure. Like the first Chiefs won. Um,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: And he's got to be good at something, but then
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: you see, like, as the players start to dissipate and
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: they don't have the talent that they once had. Now, bro, like,
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: the thing with these Eagles games is they're just goddamn
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: boring now.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: Like, they just... They don't do anything. It's just three yards.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: and a punt every single drive. So now I'm just like, okay,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: you don't do anything here. And now Howie, who has
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: infinite job security, is already retooling for the future.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: Nick's cooked. He's cooked.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's going to be during the
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: season or at the end of it, but it's just
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: kind of crazy when you look at his record, his
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: coaching record, the amount of wins, the amount of playoff success.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Everyone thinks he's a bum. And we're probably right on that, too.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni is so unlikable, though, that I feel like
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: if he can't make it work with Philadelphia, there is
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: no place that's going to want him.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: There is no place.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That's going to look at him and be like, that's
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: what we want. Guys, guys, guys, he made it work.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: They won a Super Bowl. They went to two.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: So did Doug Peterson.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl. He went to two. Right, right. Okay.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: We actually talked about this at the office yesterday.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: If Nick Sirianni gets fired, does he have a head
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: coaching job next year?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: And honestly, I do.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: That's insane.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I know it really is.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: That's insane.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: No, no, no timeout. He beat Andy Reed and Patrick
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Mahomes in a super bowl.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: It's the worst game Patrick Mahomes has ever played in
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: his entire life.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yes. Dude.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: How am I supposed to sit here and say that
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: he's actually, he's 61 and 29 as an NFL head coach.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: He's got a 68% winning percentage in the NFL.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: And he might not have a job next year.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: It makes no sense.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: No, I still, I think I still maintain like he's
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: got to be good at something, something he has to
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: be good at.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: I just can't pinpoint what it is.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Charles, in that Commanders game, I was surprised when they
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: go up 14-0 and the Giants and their defensive coordinator,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Denard Wilson, just turned to that cover zero blitz. As
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: an X's and O's guy, are you shocked that teams
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: just seem like they have nothing for blitzes? Like when
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: you look at Brian Flores in Minnesota, too, as an example?
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay. I think this has actually been like the...
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: I'm not.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: to say this but i i think this is um
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: it's kind of like the next evolution of like defensive
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: scheme stuff where i think we had we had a
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: phase kind of where like if you if you look
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: at like the kind of proliferation of like nick saban
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: and belichick coverages that every team runs now like we
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: kind of got stuck on coverages um and then now
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: like the next phase off of that is just absolutely
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: fucking up pass protection plans so like i i honestly
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: think like You see it with good college defenses, too,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: where they're just kind of picking on six-man zero pressures,
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: but they're pulling guys off of the line of scrimmage
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: at the last second. So honestly, the Texas play, the
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: last arch pick, was a really good example of that,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: where they got the running back to slide one direction
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: where all of the defensive players were. They dropped one,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: and then they send a guy through the gap where
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: the running back just left. So like it's a lot
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: of information to try and like sort through if you're, uh,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: if you're an offensive player, if you're a running back
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: or an offensive lineman. And I think that that's kind
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: of where teams have kind of been just getting absolutely
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: fucked up. Like, like the, uh, Like Brian Flores of
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: the Vikings, he's really good at that. Brett Venables in
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: college is really good at that. Mike McDonnell, when the
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Seahawks do blitz, is really good at that. And that's
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: kind of like the next step for defense. How can
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: we get your protection plan to be all messed up
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: and then we're just going to level your quarterback?
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: But it is kind of funny to see just.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: How bad offenses are at it with, with just a
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: little bit of a change up, you can get like
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: free runners all the time.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Like the Falcons do it too.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: But I think, you know, you're actually going to see
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: an adjustment off that. And I think that's also part
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: of the reason why teams are running the ball more
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: because like, if you're going to just stack linebackers on
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, well, that's just a math problem.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Like 320 weighs more than 250. So we're just going
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: to run it right at you. But when it gets
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: to pass pro, that can be really difficult to sort
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: out and deal with.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Taylor thinks Brian Flores should be the MVP, the NFL MVP.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: You agree? Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: If the Vikings win 17 games and they win 17
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: rock fight.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Games, you should be coach of the year over Kevin O'Connell.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: No, MVP.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: MVP.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: MVP.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: MVP.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: He should be both.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: And let's name him Comeback Player of the Year, too.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: Maybe he can finally get a head country job next year.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Charles, today, where do you have the Jaguars' holder in
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: the MVP conversation?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: He's got to be second.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: I mean... Dude. No. Right now, I think he's my
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: top for MVP. Because.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Wow. That, that guy was going through it during that game.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: And also, you know, shout out, shout out Devon Hamilton,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: because that's a guy who clearly, you know, there's always,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: you get a few goofballs at football practice every day
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: who are just going to long snap, even though they
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: have no desire or.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: Ability to long snap in a game. He's clearly one
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: of them.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: So the fact that it was in the vicinity, pretty good,
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: but also the holder. Yeah. He got, he gets to
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: be number one MVP ranks. Number two is Kyle Hamilton. And,
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: And then not Kyle Hamilton, excuse me. Number two is
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Brian Flores. And then number three is the Falcons for
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: week three and four before Kyle Hamilton ruined my life.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: It is very hard to keep a secret, nearly impossible
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to keep a secret these days. Did you enjoy the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: reporting of Marvin Harrison and the trade over the weekend
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and us not knowing for 48 hours where the hell
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: he was going to end up?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: It was worse than that. It was worse than that.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: Because after Schefter and Rappaport did the mystery Marvin Harrison
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: trade report, which as someone who used to.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: Do more journalism than I do now, blew my mind.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Bro, that's not your job. Your job is to report
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: who Marvin Harrison got traded to.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So then....
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Mike Florio floats out that, yo, I'm pretty sure he's
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: getting traded to the Texans. And then Adam Schefter responds
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: to that with a quote tweet of his own tweet saying,
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: I can neither confirm nor deny that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: He's getting traded to the Texans. And then, and then the.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Miko after the game, you know, you just dismounted off.
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: The, the, the, the, the presser saying, yeah, we did it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: We traded for Marvin Harrison. like, okay, cool. Like then
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: what do we do all this for? Like, what are,
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: what are we doing?
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: The, the, the insider stuff, I gotta say the insider stuff,
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: the older I've gotten, it just feels so fake. Like
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: what is this job? What is this job? Wouldn't even
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: tell us who Marvin Harrison's going to. And then the
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: head coach of the team just comes out and says, yeah,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: we traded for him.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: What do you do then?
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Charles, if I could just put my tinfoil hat on
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: for a second and try to make sense of the
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison jr.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Trade.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I think it was the Texans just saying, let's hold
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: off on making this trade because if we're 0-5, we're
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: going to cancel it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Right, no, no.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: And I think that that's, I honestly think that that's correct.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: But like, the point that... Oh, like, you know, Adam
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: knows what's going on. Ian knows what's going on.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: Tell us.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: They knew on Saturday that Marvin Harrison was getting traded
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: to the Texans.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Why do you have to protect D'Amico Ryan? He's a
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: grown man.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: He's a big boy.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Listen to me. I'm going to have Schefter on the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: show later this week to yell at him for this.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Everything you're saying is right. Would you like to join
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: us when we have Schefter on so you can ask
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: him these questions?
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. Before we get you out of here, Charles
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: McDonald from The Athletic is with us. You're a Georgia fan,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: so you had some feel-good over the weekend, but I'm wondering,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: did you feel bad for Alabama? Those were some bad... What? <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
• 36:38
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• 36:51
  Speaker 6: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
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• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Alabama got the calls all the time. And guess what?
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I'm on your tears.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Like Scott Tenterman in that South park episode drink.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: I'm drinking all of them, baby. Like, yeah, it was,
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: you're damn right.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: The rest were terrible. And guess what? You still caught
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: that big L.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Don't take my only feel good away. I'm sorry.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: I don't give a crap about Alabama fans.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: I want them to cry more.
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: My ideal weekend is.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Well, it was almost an ideal weekend, but I still
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: got the Saints on Monday and the Alabama on Saturday.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: And look, as someone who thinks that nickel Ruby Coleman
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: knocking out, you know, that little Saints wide receiver, the
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: NFC title game, that was definitely past your fears, but
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: it wasn't called. That's the greatest past breakup in NFL history.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: So anything that happened on Saturday, cool.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: Me, go dogs, run the table.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Were those the two best teams in the country?
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: I think so.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Same.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: I think so.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Keelan Russell is going to be an absolute monster
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: once he, like, gets adjusted to the speed of the game.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: It happens a little slow for him sometimes, but he's
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: so goddamn athletic and fast that even against, like, a
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: team like Georgia, it really stands out. Yep.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Charles, we appreciate it. As always, can't have you on
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: here enough, man. We'll have you on later this week
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: with Schefter. You can yell at him, all right? Stop yelling.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: At me. I'm yelling at everybody last night.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: That's what the Falcons will do to you. I know, right?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're irrationally upset with Adam Schefter. Right.