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Full Show Podcast: 17 December 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, yessues, the interviews, the issuers and the inside
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the early edition with Smith City, New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and apply at store use dogs.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be welcome on into your Tuesday. Bit by bit
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  Speaker 2: we get closer and closer to Christmas, and now in
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  Speaker 2: today's program, this is the day we find out if
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  Speaker 2: we've been as economically blue as we felt over the year.
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  Speaker 2: Cameron Bagwi's predictions in just five minutes time, I forget
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  Speaker 2: meth and coke. We're scoffing pharmaceuticals as well. When we're
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of a psychedelic renaissance. We'll have more
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  Speaker 2: details and ten we're going to go to Australia with
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  Speaker 2: Donna to find out how the poisoned Pinut Colada drinkers
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  Speaker 2: are going and also to update the Ossie heat wave
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  Speaker 2: that's happening right now and its effects. And we'll be
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  Speaker 2: joined by the Queenstown Mayor on the government's moves to
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  Speaker 2: get councils to stick to their resisential knitting. We'll have
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  Speaker 2: correspondents from right around New Zealand and you can have
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  Speaker 2: your essay as well for a small charge. Ninety two
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  Speaker 2: ninety Tuesday. Big zeb is the text.
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  Speaker 1: Number the agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, good morning. I'm Adre Dickins. It's Tuesday, the seventeenth
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  Speaker 2: of December. Hundreds are feared dead on the tiny French
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  Speaker 2: island territory of Mayote, just off the coast of Madagascar.
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  Speaker 2: This is following the devastating cyclone.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, we're encountering a number of difficulties and transporting
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  Speaker 3: all the staff and equipment needed for the victim rescue
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  Speaker 3: mission on the island of Mayotte. So here there's a
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  Speaker 3: sort of clusterlogue that's being organized to bring together the
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  Speaker 3: man and equipment.
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  Speaker 2: So Mayotte just a tiny, tiny place and some of
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  Speaker 2: the houses just senties.
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  Speaker 3: Really.
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  Speaker 2: It's feared the death toll could potentially reach thousands. Some
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  Speaker 2: neighborhoods have been completely flattened in the extreme wind. There's
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  Speaker 2: a new statement out, possibly written by fallen Syrian leader
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  Speaker 2: Basha al Assad, saying he never intended to flee to Russia. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: and at no pointed stepping down uh ah. The statement
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  Speaker 2: was posted to the presidential Telegram account. He's on telegram.
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  Speaker 2: Although it's not known who's currently in control of Vasad's
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  Speaker 2: Telegram account. So we have a drone detection system being
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  Speaker 2: sent to New York as officials continue to receive thousands
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  Speaker 2: and thousands of reported sightings of drones over the multiple states,
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  Speaker 2: including New York and New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: It's remarkable, with all these sightings over the last while,
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  Speaker 4: why do we have more questions than answers. If the
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  Speaker 4: technology exists for a drone to make it up into
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  Speaker 4: the sky, there certainly is the technology that can track
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  Speaker 4: the craft with precision and determine what the heck is
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  Speaker 4: going on.
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  Speaker 2: So the Homeland Security Secretary says he's not aware of
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  Speaker 2: any foreign involvement, adding the increased sartings might be due
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  Speaker 2: to a change in regulations allowing drones to be flown
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  Speaker 2: at night. We're in a high state of alert, aren't we,
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  Speaker 2: right around the world. And beckcoin once again has hit
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  Speaker 2: a rec value. Its popularity continues to surge. It's now
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  Speaker 2: reached one hundred and six thousand US dollars a bitcoin,
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  Speaker 2: as follows a reelection of Donald Trump, who went out
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  Speaker 2: and said he wants to make bitcoin strategic reserve in
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  Speaker 2: the United States of America. So that was all in
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  Speaker 2: Since yesterday's peakad has dropped slightly. It's now sitting at
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and four thousand US dollars.
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  Speaker 1: A popper on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early
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  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
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  Speaker 1: Bids and applying store news talk said be so.
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  Speaker 2: Today, a seventy seven year old farmer from the Corimander
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  Speaker 2: will appear in court accused of shooting dead an alleged
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  Speaker 2: poacher on his land. The farmer allegedly caught a pig
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  Speaker 2: hunter gutting a beast and then something terrible happened. The
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  Speaker 2: man who died was a father of five, and even
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  Speaker 2: his mother has described him in the media as a
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  Speaker 2: rat bag, a lovable rat bag, a cheeky little monkey,
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  Speaker 2: a loved father of five, and a ledged poacher. So,
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  Speaker 2: of course the case has started. I can't cast comment
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  Speaker 2: on the case, but here's some of the observations I've made.
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  Speaker 2: Private property rights in this country appear to be an
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  Speaker 2: endangered species. A neighbor of mine found one of his
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  Speaker 2: trees have been poisoned by his direct neighbor, and so,
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  Speaker 2: of course he popped across the fence and said, what's
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  Speaker 2: happened here? Do you know, Well, the neighbor freely admitted it.
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  Speaker 2: The tree was affecting his vibe. It had to go,
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  Speaker 2: even though it wasn't their tree, And they had to
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  Speaker 2: cross the fence and go on to the property and
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  Speaker 2: start killing the tree. And they never had the decency
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  Speaker 2: to consult the owner of the tree and now proud
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  Speaker 2: to admit it. Yeah, the tree had to go, mate, Sorry, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I killed it. It's unbelievable. Private property rights. Your land
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  Speaker 2: is your land. Screw with it and expect a reaction.
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  Speaker 2: People also seem to have developed a hard line towards
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  Speaker 2: holding people to account to hear it and talk back
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  Speaker 2: all the time, don't you know, get tough on these guys,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So, shooting at people quite a thing. It's
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  Speaker 2: something I have never done and hope I never do.
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  Speaker 2: If you are shooting at someone, then surely you must
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  Speaker 2: have sufficient reason to be doing so. And this is
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  Speaker 2: what a jury will wrestle with today and in many
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  Speaker 2: other cases. What is the punishment equal to the crime
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  Speaker 2: and consequences is another thing. If you kill or seriously
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  Speaker 2: hurt a person, then that person's whole life rests in
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  Speaker 2: your hand, their pass but also their future. That they
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  Speaker 2: now miss out on. Now that is the consequence that
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  Speaker 2: you need to learn with, you know, forget getting going
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  Speaker 2: to jail for a bit. That is the consequence that
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  Speaker 2: really weighs heavily on your soul. And remember twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: hindsight is always a very terrible thing, but often it's
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  Speaker 2: also the truth. Try to have twenty twenty hindsight before
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  Speaker 2: you start doing something stupiday. Too many people still believe
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  Speaker 2: they have a right to exact hearts punishment. Often it's talk,
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  Speaker 2: but then it isn't, and then when it isn't, it's bad.
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  Speaker 2: So today we'll witness a tragedy involving all sides going
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  Speaker 2: too far and symptomatic for me of the way our
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  Speaker 2: society is going, full of entitlement, anger and harsh retribution.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens, you talked about question of the Day and
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand and Jetstar have been in the gun for
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  Speaker 2: recent hikes and air fares during busy periods. This week, well,
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  Speaker 2: the week remember when Pearl Jam played two concerts in
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  Speaker 2: Auckland and then Cole played, then played three all in
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  Speaker 2: the same week, and there was marathons and all sorts.
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  Speaker 2: Air fears jumped to extraordinary levels. They were apologizing yesterday
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  Speaker 2: that you alone say it's just supply and demand and
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  Speaker 2: New Zealanders were just being far too busy. You're being
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  Speaker 2: far too busy. It's a concept called active pricing. It's
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  Speaker 2: becoming more and more common. Recently in London, I went
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  Speaker 2: to a great David Hockney exhibition and well recommend that
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  Speaker 2: booking the tickets online, I noticed that if I went
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  Speaker 2: to a session one hour later, then they wanted five
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  Speaker 2: quid more when I went to pick up my tickets
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  Speaker 2: at the gallery. Why, I said, more people want to come?
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  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, well sure, and then you're going to
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  Speaker 2: make more money. Why do you have to charge more?
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  Speaker 2: They said, it's active pricing. So my point is, and
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  Speaker 2: my question is, is active pricing a good thing? Does
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  Speaker 2: it make you angry? Should it continue? Should it stop?
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  Speaker 2: Should a mostly publicly owned company like Air New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: use active pricing? Remember, active pricing is an active choice
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  Speaker 2: by the retailer, and as such I think they need
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  Speaker 2: to know the customers feel used by it, and the
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  Speaker 2: customer is always king. It's five fourteen. What's going to
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  Speaker 2: happen with the HAIFU? The half year? The economic forecast
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  Speaker 2: and update. Cameron Baggery is with me.
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  Speaker 1: Next Andrew Dickens on early edition with Smith City, New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture bids and applying store news talks.
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  Speaker 2: It be yes Coomb onding to you. It is sixteen
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  Speaker 2: after five High fou Day today. That is the half
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  Speaker 2: year Economic and Fiscal Update. Treasury will release it this
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  Speaker 2: afternoon and we'll get new insight into how the economy
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  Speaker 2: is tracked over the past six months and what Treasury
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  Speaker 2: is forecasting as we go forward into twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: the year that we have to survive. To you may remember,
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  Speaker 2: it's all coming with a warning from the Finance Minister
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  Speaker 2: who yesterday said the government inherited difficult economic conditions. So
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  Speaker 2: Camin Bagrie is the lead economist from Bagriy Economics and
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  Speaker 2: Joints who right now, how the Cameron? There we go,
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  Speaker 2: Sorry Cameron, the mouse wasn't working. How the Cameron?
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  Speaker 5: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: I like what west Pac senior economist Darren Gibbs said,
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  Speaker 2: he expects a deeper shade of red. What are you expecting?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess. We go back and had a look
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  Speaker 5: at the twenty twenty four budget. There was a downside
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  Speaker 5: scenario in mate, and it looks like the economy has
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  Speaker 5: been tracking more in line with the downside scenario. And
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  Speaker 5: that downside scenario had a lot more red It had
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  Speaker 5: net debt getting up in an excess of forty five
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  Speaker 5: percent of GDP, that had the operating balance or what's
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  Speaker 5: called the obi gaal not getting back into surplus over
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  Speaker 5: the forecast period, and it looks like we're tracking more
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  Speaker 5: in line with that scenario than the central scenario they
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  Speaker 5: presented in the twenty twenty four budget.
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  Speaker 2: Would this be the lowest point as we look forward
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  Speaker 2: to twenty two twenty five, or you know, could we
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  Speaker 2: go lower?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 5: I think the low point is going to be this
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  Speaker 5: what's called fiscal year. The economy in a cyclical sense
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  Speaker 5: has actually turned the corner and we're starting to bounce
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  Speaker 5: back up. Monetary policy, the Reserve Bank is going to
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  Speaker 5: work a little bit of magic over twenty and twenty
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  Speaker 5: five that will help the fiscal forecasts out. But the
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  Speaker 5: real big problem with the fiscal forecast is not just
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  Speaker 5: where the come with the economy does in the next
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  Speaker 5: sort of twelve months. It's sort of average growth. And
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  Speaker 5: the key variable here is what's called productivity growth. How
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  Speaker 5: smart we are with resources in the Treasury's chief economic
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  Speaker 5: advisor the Reserve Bank have both been out warning about
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  Speaker 5: productivity growth. That goes straight to the heart of average
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  Speaker 5: growth over each year, and that goes straight to the
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  Speaker 5: heart of your tax revenue numbers. And I think they're
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  Speaker 5: going to find that the government's got a bit of
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  Speaker 5: a hole in regard to tax revenue. And if you
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  Speaker 5: don't have the tax revigue coming in to the degree
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  Speaker 5: that you were expecting, you're going to have a little
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  Speaker 5: lot more problems getting back from deficit the surplus.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly on that tax revenue. It's a bit of a
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  Speaker 2: visus circle, isn't it. The more we cut government spending
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  Speaker 2: to fit the revenue right, the more the economy retracts,
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  Speaker 2: meaning the less revenue the government receives and tax. Therefore
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  Speaker 2: we can't really pay the debt, you know, we sort
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  Speaker 2: of it's sort of creates itself, it spins on itself.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the government is fation some pretty complex trade offs. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: you need to be fiscally responsible. Now you've got to
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  Speaker 5: try to go from deficit surface. You need to read
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  Speaker 5: what's called the fiscal buffers. Because New Zealand shakes a
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  Speaker 5: lot of it, and you want to have a bit
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  Speaker 5: of a water chest to deploy it to borrow if
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  Speaker 5: something nasty happens, and odds are something nasty is going
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  Speaker 5: to happen in the next sort of ten years and
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  Speaker 5: we need to be prepared for that. But the other
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  Speaker 5: side is that governments need to invest in the economy.
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  Speaker 5: You need to have a well functioned education system, you
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  Speaker 5: need to have a well functioning roading system, you need
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  Speaker 5: to have a well functioning health system. It's a question
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  Speaker 5: you get in that balance between doing fis were responsible
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  Speaker 5: but also investing for a bit of economic prosperity for
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  Speaker 5: the economy.
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  Speaker 2: So are they being physically responsible? You hurt? The Finance
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  Speaker 2: Minister yesterday said we've inherited difficult economic conditions, but that
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  Speaker 2: was a year ago and they've made some quite big
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  Speaker 2: macro moves and that's helping to exasperate exascerberate the economic conditions.
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  Speaker 2: So are they managing it well.
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  Speaker 5: Now? Look, my personal view is that the debt targets
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  Speaker 5: that are on the table at the moment, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think they're going to be hit. I think we need
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  Speaker 5: to be tilting a little bit more towards the investing
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  Speaker 5: for perspiity, but investing with discipline. That's the key here.
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  Speaker 5: What we saw out of the previous government was there
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  Speaker 5: was a hell of a lot of money that was being
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  Speaker 5: thrown around, but it was ill disciplined and it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: hitting the market in regard to getting results. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to see this government loosen the debt targets,
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  Speaker 5: be probably a little bit more less a steer. But
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  Speaker 5: you have a bit of a tagline about investing for
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  Speaker 5: prospiity and having a lot more discipline about where we're
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  Speaker 5: going because we need to fix the health system, we
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  Speaker 5: need to fix the education system, we need to fink
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  Speaker 5: Sobriting system.
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  Speaker 2: All good, Cameron, thank you so much for your wisdom.
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  Speaker 2: It is five twenty investing for prosperity with discipline. It's
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  Speaker 2: five twenty.
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  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture bids and a flying Store youth talks.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be So we've got a second lot of findings
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  Speaker 2: from a Massi University drug trends survey and they're a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a worry. One in four survey responders report
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  Speaker 2: using pharmaceuticals for recreational use over the past six months.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty four percent report using MDMA and ketamine and other
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  Speaker 2: psychedelics for therapeutic purposes. And from the team at the
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  Speaker 2: Massive University in New Zealand Drugs Research Team, I'm joined
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  Speaker 2: by Dr Robin van Dersand and hello Robin, Hi, how
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  Speaker 2: are you very good? So to the pharmaceuticals. First, do
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  Speaker 2: we have an illegal trade in pharmaceuticals and people are
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  Speaker 2: sort of selling tramadol to each other.
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  Speaker 6: Potentially a little bit but also potentially a bit more
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  Speaker 6: boring than that that people are just you know, sharing
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  Speaker 6: these drugs with one another when in need. But there
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  Speaker 6: is definitely also a little bit of sale going on.
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  Speaker 2: So what should we be worried about with the pharmaceuticals.
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  Speaker 6: A big thing is sort of health and safety. I
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  Speaker 6: think you know a lot of people who take these
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  Speaker 6: drugs nor medically might not have gotten the advice of
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  Speaker 6: their doctor. You know, they might also be mixing these
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  Speaker 6: drugs together, for example, with alcohol, which is a big
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  Speaker 6: risk in terms of overdose or poisoning or experiencing harmful effects.
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  Speaker 6: And also we've got as people are buying these drugs
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  Speaker 6: illegally via a drug dealer. Then we've got this risk
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  Speaker 6: of them buying counterfeit pharmaceuticals.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I meanwhile to the more traditional drugs, the mtumaze,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. You're saying, and you've said in your report,
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  Speaker 2: the world is in the midst of a psychedelic renaissance. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it sort of means that we've got a kind
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  Speaker 6: of really renewed interest in psychedelic across a different area
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  Speaker 6: of society and in the medical sector in terms of healthcare.
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  Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of research on the potential
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  Speaker 6: benefits of psychedelics for a number of mental health benefits
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  Speaker 6: and therapeutic purposes. You've got a lot of cultural coverage
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  Speaker 6: of psychedelics, so it's quite a sort of zeitgeist more
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  Speaker 6: broadly in the culture at the moment. So that's kind
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  Speaker 6: of what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: By that, and one that we need to take great
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  Speaker 2: care of. And I thank you Robin van der Sanden.
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  Speaker 2: And it is now five twenty four. This is News
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  Speaker 2: Talks AB.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio. How ad
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  Speaker 7: It be.
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  Speaker 2: This is News Talks B five twenty seven. I'm Andrew Dickins,
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  Speaker 2: drop the well beings. The government has given the councils
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  Speaker 2: the tang las for Christmas, and they're going to hold
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  Speaker 2: councils accountable for the basics like pipes and rubbish. But
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  Speaker 2: whatever you do do not mention well being. But I
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: don't know about you. The care and maintenance of pipes
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  Speaker 2: and sewage and all that sort of thing is pretty
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  Speaker 2: fundamental to my well being, pooh, fundamental to the health
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: of society and well being anyway. Minister Simeon Brown now
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  Speaker 2: wants to report issued each year on the financial health
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  Speaker 2: of each council they're spending and their results. He wants
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: to compare them all together. They also want to look
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: at changes and rates for each dwelling. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: the government's going to read the publicly listed council reports
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  Speaker 2: and produce their own report because apparently many rate payers
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: don't or can't be bothered reading what the councilor has said. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it's not as though it's hidden. It's also the job
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  Speaker 2: the media used to do until we got so skinned
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  Speaker 2: we don't have the staff to turn up to actually
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  Speaker 2: report on it. Remember that each time. You like the
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: media sort of being chopped down a little bit. We
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  Speaker 2: need people to report on stuff. I couldn't help thinking
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing was a bit of a dramatic production
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  Speaker 2: just before Christmas. Christmas panto here Ryan, he said, was
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  Speaker 2: it bluster? Maybe part of a bit of a war
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  Speaker 2: to paint local bodies as a villain for committing exactly
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the same crimes that central government are guilty of. You
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  Speaker 2: know this, critics of council red tape and building consents,
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  Speaker 2: and yet the irony is that it's central government who
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: writes the rules that the councils are merely enforcing. There's
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  Speaker 2: criticism of a lack of long term plans from councils
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  Speaker 2: when central government tends to change its plans every three
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  Speaker 2: years in line with elections. Central government has been palmed
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  Speaker 2: off with some of the biggest and hardest part of
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  Speaker 2: civil maintenance to their councils. They've got the water, the pool,
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  Speaker 2: the rubbish. And then, of course central government has crippled
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  Speaker 2: councils by and allowing them to only make revenue through
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  Speaker 2: property taxes, and then when things go wrong, treat local
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  Speaker 2: government like a whipping boy. I think the point of
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  Speaker 2: the government's attack on councils has to make them more
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  Speaker 2: accountable to ratepayers, yes one, but possibly to distract voters
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  Speaker 2: from looking at central government. And thank you for that.
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  Speaker 2: Councils are accountable to ratepayers. It's called the vote, and
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  Speaker 2: ratepayers are notorious for not bothering to use it anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Bring it on. I support them mostly. I love the report.
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  Speaker 2: I love the ratings, I love the comparisons. Councils should
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: not be afraid of being held to account because they
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: must believe they're making their towns bitter, and I believe
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: on the whole they are. They're doing a pretty good job.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: On the smell of an oily rag.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: And on that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to the Queenstown mayor, which is
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: a good call as well, and the Queenstown mayor will say,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: how does the how does how is his counsel feeling
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: about suddenly all the eyes and whether he feels it's bluster,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: whether he feels he's already completely accountable to the rape payers.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: That's in about twenty five minutes time. JOHNA. Devan is
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: on the way as well. How are those Pincolada drinkers
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and Fiji going and there's a heatwave in Australia. By
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the way, we'll have details of that with Donna right
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: here on Early Edition. I'm Andrew Dickens. Good morning to you.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day, Early
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Beds and Appliet Store. You talk sippy.
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: Everybody on the I'm Drew Dickens and it is Tuesday,
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: and I spent the afternoon yesterday watching the cricket going.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Now, this is the way I expected the Black Pats
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: to play right from the very beginning of this Test
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: series against England. Yeah, finally there was Cain Winamson being
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: majestic and then saturnly comes out for wuck sex beautiful.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: He should have been playing right from the start of
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the series. Anyway, it was a very rewarding day and
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: today hopefully we'll put the final nail in the coffin.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: And don't think this is just sort of you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: a dead rubber. Every test is an important test. Well
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: done black Caps. Now look, I'm one of those odd
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: people who read the death notices to you. I always have.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: My mum taught me this. You you always look out for
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a name you might know, because he might be able
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: to extend into sympathy to somebody who might have had
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: a loss. Anyway, every now and then you get a
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: little bit of a shock. Obviously you see a name,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: you go oh oh. Today this morning at four am
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: in the morning, I'm reading the death notices as you do,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: and I saw the name David Weatherley, the actor. Do
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: you remember if you saw a photograph of him, you
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: would He passed away on the twelfth He was eighty
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: five years old. Born in London, David served in the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Canadian military, then came to New Zealand and was right
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: into the theater, captivated audience and in the theater, radio, film, TV,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: voicing ads. He earned international recognition. He was the innkeeper
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: at the Prancing Pony in The Lord of the Rings.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: If you're one of those people. He was also a
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: major force at the Mercury Theater, Aukland's main theater for
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: so many days that closed down at the turn of
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the century. Now at the moment that theatre is being renovated.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: It's Aukland's oldest theater, a beautiful Edwardian theater, and it's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: about to reopen and it saddens me that David Weatherley
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: won't be there to see it. And if you still
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: don't know who David Weatherley is, he was cookie Bear
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and the chocolate chip ads for Hudson's. He was the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: bear that went from Doudo that inside that fur time.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: There was David Weatherley who was a lovely man and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: his funeral is on Thursday. Andrew dickens it is a
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: twenty one to six. We're off to Dunedin. Jimmy Cunningham, Hello,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: good morning. Gosh, you've got fire restrictions yees.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: So fire in emergencies prohibited outdoor fires and fireworks in
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: central Otago, Naisby and Upper Whiteitucky until further notice. This
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: means no fires are allowed in the open and all
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: permits are suspended. District Manager Phil Marsh says strong northwesterlies
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: and a lack of rain has dried out these areas.
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: He sees other parts of.
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: Otago remain in open fire seasons, but more restrictions are
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: likely throughout the week to include more air Further north,
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: fireworks have also been banned in the McKenzie Basin and
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: Ashburton Lakes for the summer.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Any rain in the forecast.
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: No, we're fine today apart from a little bit in
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: morning cloud northeasterlies developing and a higher fourteen.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Excellent fire conditions. I'm so sorry, thank you so much.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood joins us fro christ Church and you've got
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: problems with fire conditions as well.
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: We do have problems with fire conditions here Andrew, but
• 21:23
  Speaker 11: more specifically about fireworks in fire conditions. There have been
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: reports of fireworks being let off, particularly around the Salwyn
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: district and Rolliston. This is as we have had multiple
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: wildfires over the past few weeks. We are obviously in
• 21:38
  Speaker 11: a restricted fire season here too. Fire and Emergency reminds
• 21:42
  Speaker 11: that fireworks might not be banned here in Canterbury at
• 21:44
  Speaker 11: this point, but that could change as the chances of
• 21:47
  Speaker 11: blaze become too high. The Rolliston Volunteer Chief fire officer
• 21:51
  Speaker 11: actually went and spoke to some people a week or
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: so ago about their fireworks after comments online called for
• 21:57
  Speaker 11: them to be officially warned or worse. Fire and Emergency
• 22:01
  Speaker 11: Community Risk Manager Dean Harker says, regardless, reports of people
• 22:05
  Speaker 11: using fireworks right now is concerning. He acknowledges people stop
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: piling fireworks at guy Fawkes will sit them off over summer,
• 22:12
  Speaker 11: but he says that's hugely risky given the current dry conditions.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And how are your conditions.
• 22:18
  Speaker 11: Well, some a very well needed drizzle at the moment, Andrew,
• 22:21
  Speaker 11: we'll clear to find by this afternoon southerlya's turning easterly.
• 22:24
  Speaker 11: The high though only seventeen.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: In Wellington. We have Max Tol Hello Max, good morning.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Now the mass of rape rise coming.
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, Wellington City was already clubbed with a roughly
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: twenty one percent rates rise. This year's shock and or
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: for households getting that first bill in the post. It's
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: going to keep getting worse next year as well. The
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: City Council's proposed budget signals the more than fifteen percent
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: rise on average as well next year. It is today
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: voting to finalize its long term plan. They've done their
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: best to go back to the drawing board to cut
• 22:57
  Speaker 12: a few things around the edges. There will certain using
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: suburban paid parking, which is going to rattle a few cages.
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: These staggering rates increases is certain to be the focus
• 23:08
  Speaker 12: I think for people challenging the man next year and
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: running for council.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about councils and their transparency.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: A bit later on with the Queen Stout Mayor after
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the new changes. Hey, how's your weather today, Max.
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: Well, we've had a bit of a storm overnight, but
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: it should be easy to partly cloudy weather this morning
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: thirteen the High Central.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: And Wendy Petrie Jones is right now in Orkanan. There's
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: a reopening of a cold case.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: Good morning. Yes, police are reopening a two thousand and
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: four cold case involving two Auckland schoolgirls. The two girls
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: claim they had been kidnapped and sexually assaulted in a
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: van over three days in December by four men. Police
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: questioned at least to one man at the time and
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: gathered DNA, but no one was charged. One of the women,
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Marquetti edmunds Paripi, says police had believed one of the
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: men who claimed the sex was consential, despite both girls
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: being underage. She says she's lived in fear ever since,
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: but has now decided to assist police with reopening the
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: case and the hope to find enclosure.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: And how's Awkin's weather?
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: Well, it was a bit rainy, wasn't it yesterday? Today
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: partly cloudy with isolated shower. It's caring to find this
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: evening southerly's but we've still got a high of twenty
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: four degrees.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, thank you, Wendy. And as long as it
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't rain on Hamilton during the test, and I'm not
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: all happy with that. It is seventeen minutes to six,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: by the way, donnad to Mayo the penicalatic people in Fiji.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: By the way, look, it's not as bad as what
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: happened in Laus.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: The guys in Fiji got taken to hospital, got discharged.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yes they were poisoned, but not the way they were
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: of mouse. So it's not similar. But it's certainly nowhere
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: near as serious. But we'll talk with that with Donna
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Tamayo in a few moments time. And I say that
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: because Fiji is highly dependent on tourism and this is thinking,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: you know, dry stuff up just like that. I should
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: talk to you about New Caledonia too, before the hour
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: is out. Donald Tamayo is on the way here on News.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: TALKSB International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: It's fourteen to six. If you think it's earlier in
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: New Zealand. You should think how early it is in
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Australia with Donald Demayo, whiz, good morning to your donna,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Good morning. Tell us about the Aussies who fell ill
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: drinking the pinacolada in Fiji.
• 25:12
  Speaker 13: Yes, well for some it would be considered a holiday
• 25:15
  Speaker 13: from Helbert. What happened was a number of people, about
• 25:19
  Speaker 13: seven people fell ill after having pinicolades. It was a
• 25:22
  Speaker 13: fancy resort in Fiji's the Warwick, Fiji. Now were heard
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: from an Ossie granddad. His name is David Sandu. Now
• 25:28
  Speaker 13: he received a phone call from his daughter and she
• 25:32
  Speaker 13: told him, oh that she and his teenage granddaughter had
• 25:35
  Speaker 13: been hospitalized. They fell ill after drinking peanut coladas at
• 25:39
  Speaker 13: this hotel. Now a total of four Ossie's out of
• 25:42
  Speaker 13: the seven that fell ill were hospitalized. Now it's a
• 25:47
  Speaker 13: suspected mass alcohol poisoning, they're calling it, and investigations continue
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: into what actually happened. We we're waiting for toxicology reports
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: to come in. But at this stage it's no suggesting
• 25:59
  Speaker 13: anything untoward happened. Quite a few number, quite a few
• 26:03
  Speaker 13: questions still remain, of course. But when we heard from
• 26:05
  Speaker 13: David Sando, he said it just sent chills down his spine.
• 26:09
  Speaker 13: And it's because once he got that phone call. It's
• 26:12
  Speaker 13: because of what happened in Laos recently and that tragedy
• 26:15
  Speaker 13: where that left two teenage Ossie's dead. And I think
• 26:20
  Speaker 13: that's what he was thinking when he got that phone called.
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: He was thinking the worst.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. And Fiji didn't appreciate him actually mentioning the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: worst because as they've driven to point out, it hasn't
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: been nearly as bad as that, and of course that
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: depended on the tourism. So we wait for the toxicology
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: report exactly. Meanwhile, it's pretty pretty hot on your neck
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: of the woods.
• 26:39
  Speaker 13: I'm sweating as we speak, really, I really am.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Hold on, it's three o'clock in the morning.
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: It's all well, it is warm, so the call chain
• 26:47
  Speaker 13: has come through. But yesterday was absolutely a scorture for
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: most of Australia. Victoria, for instance, recorded its highest December
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: temperature in five years. And it's impacting South Australia, Northern
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: territory in your south. Wow, I was Queensland an as
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: I mentioned at Victoria. The Weather Bureau is said that
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: wholly up in Victoria's northwest recorded wait for it forty
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: seven degrees mid afternoon. Other places reached mid forties. That's
• 27:14
  Speaker 13: twelve to twenty degrees above the December average. Yes, it's
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: really really warm. In Adelaide it was thirty eight degrees
• 27:22
  Speaker 13: by ten am yesterday. In Melbourne it reached thirty degrees
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: by nine am and by late afternoon thirty nine degrees.
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: And of course a lot of concern for the fire
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: danger and everyone is on a high alert and the
• 27:35
  Speaker 13: fire services especially thankfully, a mild you know, relatively you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 13: anticipated highly anticipated cal change came through last night. The
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: gave a sudden relief.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: You stay called John.
• 27:49
  Speaker 13: You can barely sweek, I can barely speak.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I'm so warm. Thank just so much for your time today.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Text through from Steve, who says uperplex by the New
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Zealand media hasn't mentioned the drone situation plaguing the East
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: coast of the States. It's all over the international news
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and very interesting. Well we did. We talked about that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: half an hour ago, Steve. You should have got up.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Remember the early bird gets the worm.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Andrew dickens.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: So the government's making moves to refocus local councils on
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: core services and to improve their accountability for ratepayers. Councils
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: will be focused on delivering basic services without paying attention
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: to the four well beings, which is social, environmental, economic
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and cultural. I will also be required to do a
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: yearly report so people can compare rate increases, council spending
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and debt to other councils. A leaderboard, if you will.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: The Mayor of Queenstown is Glenn Lewis, who joins me
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: right now. Glynn, Hello Martin, do you focus on the
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: basics or not?
• 28:43
  Speaker 14: We hesty given a large portion of the visitor population
• 28:50
  Speaker 14: to our district.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: So so hearing all this yesterday, how did you feel?
• 28:58
  Speaker 14: Look? This was well signed hosted earlier in the year
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: by the Minister and the Prime Minister at the Local
• 29:05
  Speaker 14: government conference, so it came to me as no surprise.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Sure, but how do you feel?
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: Look? I think some of the stuff asking for it's
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: all publicly available information now, so just go to collate
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: it and put a lable doesn't make me, I mean
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: not to my feelings about it. It's the information's there,
• 29:29
  Speaker 14: they're just going to publish it in a different format.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: This is absolutely true. The media used to do that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: When we have more reporters that's true. And of course
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the question is our council's less transparent than central government.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And I would actually argue that councils are more transparent
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: than central government. I mean, how often do you get
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: to see the debate about what the finance minister is
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: doing with the budget?
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 29:49
  Speaker 14: Look, all our workshops and decision making is all open
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: to the public. We don't have closed corks every Monday,
• 29:57
  Speaker 14: so and governments don't have to produce ten year budgets
• 30:03
  Speaker 14: or have asset management plans for all the assets they own.
• 30:08
  Speaker 14: So I think a local government suit me, let's say,
• 30:14
  Speaker 14: has better methodologies and looking after the assets they own
• 30:17
  Speaker 14: on behalf of the rate payers.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: But the point being, the government has got into a
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: vibe that councilors need to do better. So will these
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: measures make councilors do things better?
• 30:30
  Speaker 14: No, they'll just make them do them the same as
• 30:32
  Speaker 14: they've always done them in the last teen fifteen years, because,
• 30:37
  Speaker 14: like I said, all the accountability measures as they call them,
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: we're doing anyway and they're just going to report them differently.
• 30:44
  Speaker 14: And the whole problem is that no one reads those
• 30:46
  Speaker 14: documents anyway. I'm telling now my rate payers don't get
• 30:49
  Speaker 14: into the detail of my lot, tom plan, or the
• 30:51
  Speaker 14: annual plan or the annual report. I don't know how
• 30:54
  Speaker 14: another document is going to solve it.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, you are accountable. It's called the vote. Glenn l
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Well said, thank you very much. Glynn is the mayor
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: of Queenstown and it is now eight minutes to six.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew Dickens, on early edition
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a play
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: at store Youth Talk.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Said, be so this morning. I mentioned the fact that
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I read the death notices every day, and today I
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: saw David Weatherley's death notice. You know Cookie bed, don't
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you do? And it made me sad. He got to
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: eighty five. And Craig said in a text years ago,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: when I was a panel beating apprentice, my boss used
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: to read the death notices every single morning and he
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: said to us if he saw one of our names,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: he would give us the day off. Paid good one. Craig, Hello, Heather,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: how are you do you know?
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: I really worry Just on another subject, I worry about
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: your hearing quite.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: A lot because my headphones allowed.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: Your headphones are they no? They're not at full noise?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Are they pretty much at full I turned them down
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: for you so that you don't go, what the hell,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Oh my godd right, this is my entire broadcasting career.
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: Andrew. I walked into the studio. You had headphones on
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: and you were looking at the computer, and I said,
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: I said hello, Andrew, and about two seconds later you
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: got fright. It is so bad for you, But you
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: will consider.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I've been checking my ears because everyone's been saying this forever. Yeah,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it's because of old rock and roll radio. You know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: you want to be inside the radio. You're inside the radio,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: not like the radio is over there, Yeah, and you
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: just want to get into it. So I check my
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: hearing every every year, and it's been as fine.
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: I'm impressed with that my husband. But my husband is
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: the same as you, and he's been working in radio
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: for a long time, and his cans, his headphones are
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: as loud as yours. And the other day there was
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: something was beeping and I think it might have been
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: the microwave or something like that, and he didn't hear it,
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: could not hear it. Everybody was sitting there going what
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: is even even the three year old was like what
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: that noise? And Mary couldn't hear.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: It, So who needs to hear them? Mike, what I'm well,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: no one.
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: But what I'm trying to say to you is you
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: tell me your hearing is fine?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So does he?
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I know?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Clearly not bund to David Stack the other day. Although
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: David David's got the new things, he's been deaf, it
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: turns out for the last twenty years. And he's right,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: he's seen world as full color.
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: Now there's little headphones that you're putting your ears.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It's incredible. One's at the back, so not even in
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: as weird as how amazing it is amazing. What are
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you talking about today?
• 33:08
  Speaker 14: Listen?
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: We're going to talk about councils, because so.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I can't hear you. What Lord, I feel so.
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: Bad for all and anyway, much like I feel bad
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: for myself. We're going to talk about counsels because counsels
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: clearly are not getting the message from the government that
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: they need to focus their spending in the right way.
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: And so the Government's decided yesterday to legislate and just
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: force them to do it. Thank god. Counsels are just
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: wasting everybody's time, wasting everybody's money. I am increasingly increasingly
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: frustrated by them. Have a chat to Campbell Barry, who's
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  Speaker 10: actually a good guy who runs one of the councils
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  Speaker 10: down and Wellington represents local government New Zealand, get his
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  Speaker 10: take on it. And also going to chat a little
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  Speaker 10: bit about the government's books because they're opening today and
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  Speaker 10: it's not going to be pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Cameron Bagrey took to me this morning and he said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at some stage we've got to stop cutting
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  Speaker 2: and actually start actually investing for prosperity, which is.
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  Speaker 10: This is true, but how can you invest for prosperity
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  Speaker 10: when you're blowing all your cash? I mean basically what
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  Speaker 10: we're doing is it's like we're running a household buying
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  Speaker 10: lots of really nice VERSACEI clothing, but not buying the
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  Speaker 10: house to live in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying the versace nice, lots of.
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  Speaker 10: And Welling lots of techy Vesci and wellingt Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 10: great to Public Service.
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  Speaker 2: Had a great show and I thank you, and I
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  Speaker 2: thank Leo being my producer, our producer today and I'll
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  Speaker 2: catch you again tomorrow. Bye bye.
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