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Ep. 851: Rut Fresh Radio - Thankful For The Rut · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
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  Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,
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  Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
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  Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts
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  Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones.
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  Speaker 2: The rut has been rocking and Roland. It is Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 2: week and I am very thankful for many things in
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  Speaker 2: this world, and I am thankful that this gear are
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  Speaker 2: still doing the thing. This is rot Fresh.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Everyone? Welcome to rut Fresh Radio, rock
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  Speaker 2: you by First Light Gear. I'm your host k C.
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  Speaker 3: Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Jones is here as well, and want to inform
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  Speaker 2: you first and foremost that you need to be thankful.
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  Speaker 2: You have a lot to be thankful for. I don't
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  Speaker 2: care who you are.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do this to me. Why you know what you're doing?
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't. It's it's for real, man. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's just the air we breathe, the woods outside,
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  Speaker 2: the near running around. You know, the life that we've
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  Speaker 2: been gifted is a blessing and I'm thankful for it.
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  Speaker 2: If you are the kind of person who thinks that
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  Speaker 2: you might want to buy some gifts for some people.
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  Speaker 2: First Light is having a Black Friday seal, right, now,
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  Speaker 2: you can go in there and get you all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of good stuff. You can even have it in time
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  Speaker 2: for some winter hunting if you want to.
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  Speaker 3: Are we going to have a first Light cell at
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  Speaker 3: the Element? What do you mean? Sorry? Are we going
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  Speaker 3: to have a Black Friday cell at the Element? Maybe?
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  Speaker 3: I hope, So, I don't know, I hope. So we
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  Speaker 3: were fixing me selling some T shirts and shirts and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm pretty scad about that. Yeah, But I'm most
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  Speaker 3: excited this week for hen. Turkey's on my plate? Dude,
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  Speaker 3: do you have one to eat? And I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: got a turkey. I'm sure my mom's gonna make a
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  Speaker 3: turkey for us. I'm sure, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a hen. But what do you think
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  Speaker 3: they do? You can't make it? God will sound very
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  Speaker 3: good with my mouth. What do you think they do
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  Speaker 3: with all the hens?
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  Speaker 2: Because I think that the most of is that what
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  Speaker 2: it is, They just all go into production. I think
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  Speaker 2: so the majority of turkey that's eating is probably gobs.
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  Speaker 2: If there if you're cooking a big guy or a
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  Speaker 2: big turkey. It's probably a god right, Yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's interesting. Yeah, I bet it's like cattle man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I beat heifers too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're mostly eating steers and letting them Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: halfsp so probably so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Tyler, it's a weird time of year. But
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you that just from some of our
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  Speaker 2: recent experiences. I'm gonna be honest with you. I had
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of the oh no, it's over. I
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  Speaker 2: missed my operaortunity. Did you I did? When did you
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  Speaker 2: have that? Probably driving home about a week and a
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  Speaker 2: half ago. It felt like once we got to the
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  Speaker 2: twenties in the dates that it was just like man,
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  Speaker 2: no more. Really, I felt I felt better about the
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  Speaker 2: second I know you do. I think that it's because
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  Speaker 2: you just have a little more experience hunting some of
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  Speaker 2: the Midwestern stuff in the later dates than I do.
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  Speaker 2: I've just well, one year, I did kill a buck
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  Speaker 2: on the twenty third, but outside of that, I've killed
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  Speaker 2: a deer fifteenth and earlier pretty much anytime I've hunted
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  Speaker 2: the Midwest, and you're so good. No, it's just because
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  Speaker 2: I'm willing to shoot smaller deer than you, no whatever
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  Speaker 2: do I do think, you know, to just kind of
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  Speaker 2: offer that encouragement that we do to try to be
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  Speaker 2: pretty encouraging around here. Man, deer doing the thing almost
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  Speaker 2: until the new year in most of the country, as
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  Speaker 2: weird as that sounds, and especially in the next couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks, right, I mean, and truth be told, even
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  Speaker 2: once kind of the rut does seem to be over,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bed to food is still a really good
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  Speaker 2: way to kill a deer. Yeah, And so like there's
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  Speaker 2: just a lot of opportunity out there. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things I kind of learned throughout this
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  Speaker 2: rut is that I might not actually like the rut
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  Speaker 2: as much as I thought I did. Really, Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of inpredicted, unpredictable for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, What if you were a guy who only
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  Speaker 3: had five acres, would you like the rut more?
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  Speaker 4: You think?
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  Speaker 2: And I only hunted that.
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  Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is like if you didn't
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  Speaker 3: have because you got a couple of nice private tracks
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  Speaker 3: to hunt, yeah, and so do I. And there that's
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  Speaker 3: because we hunt together. I mean, if if you deer
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  Speaker 3: in public, if you're in public or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: You may like the rut better because you know these
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  Speaker 3: people that have not that we have any of this
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  Speaker 3: on our private pieces or anything, but like the's people
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  Speaker 3: that have these big old summer food plots and all
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're leaving corn and all this, and that
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  Speaker 3: you might you might only have a chance of that
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  Speaker 3: deer on their property during rut.
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  Speaker 2: I think that limited time would make me like the
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  Speaker 2: rut more than limited acreage. I think that if you
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  Speaker 2: if you're a kind of guy who hunts only on
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  Speaker 2: the weekends or you know, uh, just only has like
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  Speaker 2: maybe five days total in the woods, Yeah, the rut
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  Speaker 2: is just awesome because you there's gonna be deer running
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  Speaker 2: around and you can you can manipulate them. Was calling inside.
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  Speaker 3: I think also for a guy that wants to kill
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  Speaker 3: like a pope and young say, but if you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm holding out for that one sixty, that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: or I'm the guy who's holding out for a target
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  Speaker 3: deer right like you. I mean you may not even
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  Speaker 3: have one sixties where you're at yet, maybe that your
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  Speaker 3: target deer is a one forty one or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Limited and limited time both don't like if I could
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  Speaker 2: advise someone don't put yourself in that box. If you're
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  Speaker 2: if you have limited time, order go out and find
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  Speaker 2: a dear that's doing something cool and shooting, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like it's uh it's a good way to like sit
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  Speaker 2: all year and kind of be miserable and maybe not
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  Speaker 2: be one hundred and three.
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  Speaker 3: Or four years. I'm telling you that I did the
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  Speaker 3: target deer thing. I think it was day two of
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  Speaker 3: that first hunt when you were like, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: leave that deer and go somewhere else, and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'll go over in hunt him because you told me
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  Speaker 3: how easy it was, you know, you just talk.
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  Speaker 2: The first day.
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  Speaker 3: After that it was ridiculously hard. Which that was the
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  Speaker 3: only days with the dough. So that's that's the thing
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  Speaker 3: that made a difference, you know. And so uh he
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  Speaker 3: became uh more predictable outside of his rut behavior, but
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  Speaker 3: also because of that deer uh and what he is
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  Speaker 3: and who like, how how he behaves right, how wise
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  Speaker 3: that deer is, and how arrey he is, it made
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  Speaker 3: him extremely hard hunt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you had a deer that was
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  Speaker 3: just bed to food, not super wise to hunters or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: October could be a pretty good time for you.
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  Speaker 2: It could be it might be uh in the future
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  Speaker 2: for us too.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's uh, every deer season is different, and this one
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  Speaker 2: has definitely felt a lot different than the ones in
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  Speaker 2: the past, and it's how it's always going to feel.
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  Speaker 2: And it's really one of the things that keeps us
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  Speaker 2: liking to do it for sure, you know, because it's uh,
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  Speaker 2: you just there's no like, oh, remember fourth is a
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  Speaker 2: day when we kill the deer this year, and it's
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  Speaker 2: how it's always going to be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always different, dude. I'll tell you. There's a
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  Speaker 3: there's a thing that we deal with because you know,
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  Speaker 3: we do have we have to make plans for where
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  Speaker 3: we go in the year, and so like you either
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  Speaker 3: have limited you do have limited time sometimes, but it's
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  Speaker 3: only in that area or whatever. And so I think
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  Speaker 3: what you sometimes what you run into or I feel
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  Speaker 3: this a lot, is like, oh, dude, I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to kill on this trip because you know, the ruts
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  Speaker 3: winding down this next trip and then from there I
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  Speaker 3: got to go do this and that's not going to
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  Speaker 3: be that great a hunt. It's just something kind of
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  Speaker 3: stuck in there or whatever. And it's like you start
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  Speaker 3: looking at things. You're like, obviously, being tired kind of
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  Speaker 3: uh can affect your attitude as well, right, And also
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  Speaker 3: and you're just like, I'm not going to kill another
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  Speaker 3: deer this year, Right've killed one and that's all. That's
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  Speaker 3: all we kill this year, you know, which I mean
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  Speaker 3: most people would love to kill just one deer year,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean one big buck, right, But I
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  Speaker 3: just I feel that way sometimes And then I come
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  Speaker 3: home from a trip like we just had, and I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 3: I just need to not I just need to not
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  Speaker 3: like worry about that stuff, probably quite as much as
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  Speaker 3: I do, and just which I've done better, but I like,
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  Speaker 3: just continue to hunt hard, that's the main thing, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: continue to go out there, get up at the right time,
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  Speaker 3: go out there, don't sit in the truck too long
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  Speaker 3: when you get to the parking spot.
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  Speaker 2: These are all things that I did and still kill
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  Speaker 2: the deer, sofa.
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  Speaker 3: And you can, right, But like you're also really really
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  Speaker 3: good on the ground, so I think that, yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: you also have you have the the kind of note
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  Speaker 3: don't give up kind of thing too, Like you may
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  Speaker 3: not have the get started kind of thing, but you
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  Speaker 3: don't you have to don't get up the kind of
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  Speaker 3: thing you gotta.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta be able to judge your situation. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to glass from a vehicle, there's no
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  Speaker 2: reason to be there an hour before the sun gets up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but if you do, then you get
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  Speaker 3: you might bump the deer because you're moving your trucks.
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  Speaker 2: What do you know about that?
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  Speaker 3: I know something about it, so Tyler.
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  Speaker 2: What Tyler is alluding to is that him and I
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  Speaker 2: both had some really great blessings of success this past
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  Speaker 2: week and those have been posted over on the Element
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  Speaker 2: Instagram if you want to check that out, and.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about it on our podcast too.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about it on our podcast. It's coming out
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  Speaker 2: pretty soon as well. But enough about us, y'all are
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  Speaker 2: here to hear from hunters around the country. Tyler, who
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  Speaker 2: do we have this week?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we've got one of our good buddies, Patrick pay Singer.
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  Speaker 3: He works with that end game calls and somehow being
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  Speaker 3: known for their turkey calls. Patrick is just a white
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  Speaker 3: tailed deer killer. He is. He finds a way to
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  Speaker 3: shoot Mondo's and he's going to be talking to us
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  Speaker 3: about Tennessee. We've also got another dead end game called
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  Speaker 3: guy who's Jeremy Kritcher out in North Carolina. He killed
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  Speaker 3: him a buck out there the other day. And that's
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  Speaker 3: that's North Carolina's kind of under the radar kind of place.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel like there's some pretty good bucks and
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  Speaker 3: there's real cool habitat.
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  Speaker 2: It might be the prettiest state in the country. I
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  Speaker 2: need to go there, Yeah, for sure, for sure you do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you should go there sometime and do that. Jake Belinda
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  Speaker 2: who had some recent success in another state, but he
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  Speaker 2: will be in Pennsylvania and has been there for the
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  Speaker 2: next foreseeable future. So he's got a good report from
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  Speaker 2: US for US for that state. And we've got our
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  Speaker 2: own Chris Christopher Webb who has been hunting Texas and
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  Speaker 2: killed just such a nice, just dark headed deer the
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  Speaker 2: other day here in North Texas. Awesome, let's get the reports.
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  Speaker 2: We are making the rounds with dead end game calls
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  Speaker 2: today because we have got Patrick Paysinger in Tennessee. Man,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Patrick?
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  Speaker 2: Not much?
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  Speaker 5: Brother?
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  Speaker 2: You seen them deer out there? Yes, I am.
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  Speaker 6: I actually sat Sunday evening after church about gotten the
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  Speaker 6: stand about three pm. It was a good high pressure,
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  Speaker 6: clear started cooling off real good towards sunset, and seen
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  Speaker 6: a lot of deer, a lot of deer on their feet.
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  Speaker 2: You know, just as a little background for folks that
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  Speaker 2: don't know you actually are probably known for turkey hunting,
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  Speaker 2: but you're quite the deer slayer yourself. And even there
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  Speaker 2: where you're at in Tennessee, you've killed some of the
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  Speaker 2: biggest deer around. And I don't want to make you blush,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a podcast, so nobody will know. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee a state that isn't known for giant bucks. But
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, has big Bucks had the world
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  Speaker 2: record for a little while. You know, what's what's kind
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  Speaker 2: of the thing that gets big bucks killed in Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: in your area?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, over the years, Tennessee has done a really good
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  Speaker 6: job at the management and uh, you know, growing up,
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  Speaker 6: we were a four bucks state limit and now it's
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  Speaker 6: down to two, so that has really helped. And in
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  Speaker 6: East Tennessee where I'm at, one of the major things
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  Speaker 6: that we've what I've seen is is going back into
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  Speaker 6: the nineties, when I grew up, it was all cattle
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  Speaker 6: pasture and tobacco fields. Yeah, and once the government did
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  Speaker 6: the big tobacco buy out. A lot of these farms
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  Speaker 6: has transitioned over to corn and beans agriculture because we're
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  Speaker 6: at the foothills of the mountains and it's rolling. So
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  Speaker 6: we've got a lot of open fields and bottoms and
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  Speaker 6: those are converted to ag.
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  Speaker 2: And you know how good that is for deer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. So in that area of the country,
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  Speaker 2: is there a lot of crops still in or is
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  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff harvested?
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  Speaker 6: Pretty much all of it's harvested. Something I do on
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  Speaker 6: my farm. We used to I've got one hundred acres
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  Speaker 6: there and it was growing up, it was always pasture
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  Speaker 6: and cattle, and now I've converted. I've got a good
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  Speaker 6: friend that does ag, so he does soy beans are corn,
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  Speaker 6: and what he does on the back two acres, he
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  Speaker 6: leaves it standing for me. So I've pretty much got
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  Speaker 6: the only crops still standing. And I put a couple
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  Speaker 6: of white tail Institute food plots that butt up right
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  Speaker 6: against it, and you'll see the deer will transition, come out,
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  Speaker 6: hit the clover, hit the greens, and then go into
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  Speaker 6: the grains.
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  Speaker 3: Man, it sounds like you got a good setup. From
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  Speaker 3: here on out to the end of the year.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, my place will get better and better because I
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  Speaker 6: leave the pressure off I've got on the Basically, I've
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  Speaker 6: got an acre of acre and a half of standing beans,
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  Speaker 6: two green food play and then on the other side
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  Speaker 6: of the green food plots, I've got an acre of CRP.
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  Speaker 6: So they've got everything in this back corner and then
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  Speaker 6: hardwoods on the other side of it. And I just
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  Speaker 6: don't hunt it much. I can sit back and watch
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  Speaker 6: it a little bit from my house and then monitor
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  Speaker 6: the trail cameras and then whenever I see a deer
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  Speaker 6: move in and everything's right, then I go in.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, when you say see a deer, I'm
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  Speaker 3: assuming you're talking about mostly on trail camera. Now what
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  Speaker 3: are your trail camera? What do they look like right now?
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  Speaker 3: Are they deer moving around? Are you seeing big bucks
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  Speaker 3: show up? Are they not near the food or they
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  Speaker 3: near the food? What's the deal?
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  Speaker 6: So right now, it's smack dab in the middle of
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  Speaker 6: just major breeding.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say right in the middle of it.
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  Speaker 6: Usually the week leading into Thanksgiving is prime time breeding.
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  Speaker 6: And what I'm seeing is is the dose are concentrating
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  Speaker 6: hitting the beans. They are pouring out in the bean
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  Speaker 6: every evening and I'm seeing those those real small bucks
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  Speaker 6: irritate them, and then I'm getting pictures or seeing those
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  Speaker 6: big boys cruise in.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's definitely peak of the rut.
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  Speaker 3: Would you say it's, uh, there's a lockdown situation going
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  Speaker 3: on right now?
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  Speaker 2: There is.
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  Speaker 6: They're there, but they're bouncing off, coming on and off
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  Speaker 6: quite a bit. But yeah, it can be that lockdown definitely,
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  Speaker 6: because it seems like the big buck that I killed
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  Speaker 6: two years ago on my home place, I think it
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  Speaker 6: was the eighteenth. I had trail camera pictures the day
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  Speaker 6: before I killed him.
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  Speaker 2: Actually breeding they do.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 2: So Tennessee is you know, technically the South and if
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  Speaker 2: people are listening, they can tell from your accent for sure,
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  Speaker 2: just like us, right, but surely not deer. You know,
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  Speaker 2: deer in the South are kind of used to warmer tempts,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, kind of across the country it's been
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  Speaker 2: unseasonably warm for the November. Do you feel like that's
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  Speaker 2: suppressed deer movement or are they still pretty daylight active?
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  Speaker 6: Well, what has suppressed the deer movement where I'm from
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  Speaker 6: is acorns. Yeah, we've had a bumper crop of acorns,
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  Speaker 6: and until I'd say the past week, it didn't matter
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  Speaker 6: what food I had out, I just wasn't getting many
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  Speaker 6: deer come out into the food plots or the beans,
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  Speaker 6: even when the beans were green and they usually demolished.
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  Speaker 6: The end of September, we were having the white oaks fall,
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  Speaker 6: and the deer were just staying in the woods.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm so close to betting that.
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  Speaker 6: I usually don't see the temperature play a big part
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  Speaker 6: of that.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was mostly the acorns got you.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: So in the next week, do you expect the lockdown
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: situation to be different? You're going to see more buck
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: movement or less buck movement. How do you feel about it?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to see more.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: You know, we're going to get into I traditionally I
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: love that that week of Thanksgiving, in the first week
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: of December, we're right there. As you guys said, that
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: southern transition, if you look at lines Tennessee is like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: it's not deep.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: South, it's not north.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: I usually see that that peak of the rut, you know,
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: a week or two later, mostly in our area, and
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: from those dose getting bred the first couple of weeks,
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: you're going to see that you know.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: What is that the drury is called desperately seeking.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: They're not going to be in the complete just food mode,
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: but you're going to have those big boys still want
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: to find that last available though.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So with that being said,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: do you what would you rink buck moving on a
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: scale of one to ten for the next week in Tennessee,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I would say a seven. That's pretty good, man, It's
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: a pretty good time in the woods, that's right.
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: The only reason I wouldn't give it higher just because
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: we have been in gun season since Saturday.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Gotcha?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: If gun season, what wouldn't have been going on?
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: So that may suppress some dear movement just from you know, pressure,
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: But I think if you're somewhere where that pressure hadn't
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: been affected, you're going to see really good dear man.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Gotcha. All right, it's a little bit of a bonus
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: question here. Are there better weeks coming or is this
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the time to be out right now?
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: I think if you have a place with low pressure,
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: you've still got to just killer weeks left.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Awesome?
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Cool, all right, Patrick, appreciate the report, man, Yes, sir.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Talking to one of my old friends, Jeremy Chritcher, here
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: from dead End Game calls Jeremy, how's everything going, dude?
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: And too blessed to be the press?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Brother?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, I like it, man, I like it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you guys have been blessed, y'all. Yup shot several
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: deer and been out hunting quite a bit, and y'all
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: are about the deadliest turkey people I know. I mean,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, if ain't a turkey just out there
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: just shaking in its boots while I'm saying dead end
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: game calls, man, then I don't know what that turkey's doing,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: because y'all are deadly on the turkeys. But we're talking
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: deer right now. You've been out there in North Carolina
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: and had some success recently. Talk about that a little bit.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: What was going on when you were able to kill
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: that buck?
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Sure?
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: So last week we finally where we're out North Carolina.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: We're kind of at the bottom of the mountain as
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: far as Northwest goes, though, but it's been hot like
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: seventies and it's just not ideal for mid November. Finally
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: had a good col frut push in, but it rained
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: the whole day. But I was watching the wind for
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: this particular buck and the col frut push, and I
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: was like, man, as soon as it's rain stops, he's
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: gonna want to get up. And sure enough, about an
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: hour before it quit, he was on his feet by himself.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: And but then I got in the stand hoping to
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: hunt that evening, and it just.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Right there last.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: Light, it come a quick rain. So I kind of
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: got caught in the rain again, and that messed me
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: up because I thought I had everything.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't think I got as wet as I actually got.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: And a couple of days later, still good, cold, frosty
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: morning got in there and he come right in, just
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: as pretty as he pleases, and just blew the cap
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: on him.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: The powder didn't nignight. Oh. I was like, man, this
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: is not happening.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: But he's still there, And I was like, how did
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: he not spook? And put another cap in? And I'm
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: just like, Lord, please help this shot to go off
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: and just.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: The cap again?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Oh man, And I'm like he's still there. So where
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: did he? Was he coming into food or what?
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: Yes, at this point on camera, a couple of nights
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: he had been with some doze, but this morning in particular,
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: he was coming into cornpile.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Got you, and oh he well, he was hungry that morning.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I guess why he wouldn't leave.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: If I was a deer, I'd be killed at food
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: That's my problem.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: We had.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: So so he's still there and I managed to pull
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: the gun off the tripod, unscrew my breech plug dunk
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: the powder loading now round unberknownst to me. I didn't
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: look at it enough. My breech was just caked and
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: wet powder. So when I got this shot off, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: guess it just locked. Man, it finally ignited, but it
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: just and he ducked it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And uh ran off And I was like, man, that's it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: And the next that night he actually came right back
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: with a young buck. And then the next morning he
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: was with the dough and she was hot, and he
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: he was more concerned about her, and I was like, well,
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: this evening might be it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: So hey, real quick on that that morning, when he's
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: with that dough, is he is he coming by the corn? Still?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Like is that dough leading him to corn?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yes? So what he'll.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: Typically what will happen that I've seen on a hot
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: dough is he might stand in the pile, but he's
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: more concerned about what she's doing. God, he may not
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: even dip his nose down.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So so maybe like being at a food
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: source because of the dose is a pretty good reason
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: to be at a food source too, not just because
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: it draws bucks in.
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think, uh, we have a lot of
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: doze around here, and just and that's what led to
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: his destruction there that evening was because uh he left her.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I had some does.
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: Come in, young bucks come in, grunting the most vocal
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: I've ever heard them on this farm. But the doze
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: just did not want to have it, and so the
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: young bucks would absolutely run them all off. And about
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: five minutes left of legal no camera light.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: But I was like, God, just would you give me
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: one more chance?
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: And I've paid that prayer one hundred times, but so
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: sure enough, like fifty yards from me, a deer comes
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: out of the creek, which I have never seen a
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: deer come out this way before, and I'm looking at
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: its butt and again it's dark, I'm in the woods,
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: and I see Antler's moving. I was like, I think
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: that's him. If not, it's that big seven, but I
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: think it's him. And I was like, well, he's probably
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: going to go to the bait pile and he'll turn
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: for me.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Here in a minute.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: And sure enough, all he did was he he scanned
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: that field and he turned and he went back into
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: the creek to leave. And as soon as he turned
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: back into the creek, I was like, it's now or never,
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: and I shot right then and he wasn't standing at
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: eighty yards and and then he probably didn't go fifty
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: seventy five yards.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Man smoked him. That's cool, dude, congrats on the big bulls.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: It was fun because I had my little boy and
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: my wife and Mitchell and his son. So I called
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: I called that everybody and was like, hey, I think
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: he's down. And I was like, but there's also a chance,
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: like it's not him. I was like, I think it's
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: him though, But so anyway, having man just having a
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: little tracking party with family like that was just that
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: was what it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Was all about. That's a good time. Do you feel
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: like there's still gonna be doze in heat right now? Like,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: are we still in the dead of the rut there?
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: I think some of it's locked down because of just
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: what I've been seeing man. Two weeks ago, two three
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: weeks ago, scrapes were unbelievable. But camera activity wise, I've
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: got a couple different cameras on the farm, and I'll
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: have a dough walking and you know, within between five
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: minutes and an hour a buckle on that same trail.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: So I think they're still cruising.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, got you?
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Are they going to be pretty daylight active still
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: or is it just too hot?
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: So they have been more nighttime. But the good news
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: is within this next week it's supposed to get down
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: into the twenties finally, man, and so we should see.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: I think they'll definitely be up on their feet more.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: But I have you know, they really like those cold,
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: frosty mornings as far as what I've been saying.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure cool.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: So they're just giving far between here man, thirty minutes
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: from here up the mountain, you know, the elevation goes
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: up fifteen hundred feet. I mean they it snowed and
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: my brother was hunting the snow Saturday.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that?
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Hey, would you ever use a like a drag, like
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: a you know, a scent scent drag or whatever?
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: I have before? Actually I used one one time in
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: New York. I was hunting on one of our farmers
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: up there, and it I don't know if it makes
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: a difference or not.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I didn't really know what I was doing back then.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just thinking because as you know, you said,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: the Bucks will come through a half hour after a
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: dough comes through. I just wondered if that was That's
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: something I don't like doing. But I have done it
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: before too, and I don't know if I knew enough
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: either at the time. You know, Yeah, I don't think.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess it just depends on the.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Quality of the leriu you're using.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, when them bucks when they're when
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: their cruising, they just especially them older bucks, they worked
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: their nose so much there is no telling what can
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: happen for sure.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Well that's awesome, man, Hey, on a scale and one
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: to what do you think Buck movement is going to
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: be like next week?
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: Next week, I think everything's gonna be on their feet.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: I'd say the problem is it's a little bit late.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: They might be a little more on lockdown. But I
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: think movement's gonna.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Be up there. Eight. Oh okay, Yeah, that's awesome man. Well, Jeremy,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Pel.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate the report, Jeremy, and Uh. North Carolina
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: is a state that there's a lot of hunters, but
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: you don't hear a lot of press coming out of there.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: So we appreciate you giving us a good detailed report
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: on things. Man.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Yep, y'all have a blessed season. Man, Yes, tell you too.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: On the phone, I've got Jake Belinda with the void. Jake,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: you've been hunting up in Pennsylvania. You've been hunting all
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: over actually Pennsylvania recently. How's how's everything going in your
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: neck of the woods.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: Man, It's been going pretty good.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: It uh just wrapped up our our bow season, early
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: bot season.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: So what what you've been seeing during your early bost
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: season is in the last week or so, what's the
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: what's the deer movement like, and what's what are the
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: things that are affecting what those deer are doing.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: So it's the tail end of the rut here in
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: the mountains. I've been seeing a lot of really good
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: early morning movement, some mid a little bit of mid
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: day on the certain weather days, and then you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: evening time the big deer are showing their face where
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: some of the younger class bucks. You know, your two
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: and a half year olds are kind of showing more
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: of a going back to food source pattern.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, so when you say showing their face, they're they're
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: still doing the thing, the rut thing a little bit.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, some of the bit.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, this end of the year, this time
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: of year is a really good time to catch some
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: of those big, giant mature bucks on their feet looking
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: for the last estra's dozetcha. Right before you know that,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: they pretty much go back into hiding.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: So so do you expect to see deer that you
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: haven't ever seen before? Potentially if you're hunting this time
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: of year.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I actually seen a really big dear that
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen. I had pictures of him in August
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: and then he disappeared and then just showed back up.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm you know, he's outside of
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: his core rut range and just kind of hitting those
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: last few known pockets.
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: But it's a really good time to catch some big
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: deer on their feet.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: So if they're you got bucks that are out looking
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: for new doughs, what kind of areas are those? Do
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you find those betting in there in Pennsylvania, Like, what's
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: what's that stuff?
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Looks like it's a lot of mountain hill country, so
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: leeward side, so like it would be like eastern points,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: ridge points. Dough groups are starting to get pushed back together.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: I'm starting to see a lot more doze instead of
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: being in singles and doubles, get going back into those
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: groups of four, five and six family groups.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Gotcha? Gotcha?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: So when a buck is going to check those leeward sides,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: are you is he gonna be? I guess that you're
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: saying leeward on the wind right? So is it gonna
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: be downhill of the end of of those betting areas
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: is kind of where you want to set up?
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: So, uh I I hunt a lot of you know,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: big mountaintops, so that bottom third, you know, not quite
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: the very bottom, but the bottom third. They're they're using
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: drainages to basically cut corners as quick as they can
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: to check to see if they can find any hot,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: hot doughs on those dough betting areas.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Gotcha. So you like kind of the mid mornings then
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: for that kind of stuff.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, ten o'clock, ten to ten to one on those overcasts.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: You know, forty degree days seem to be the magic
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: for this late late rut period.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Gotcha. So in the next week or so, do you
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: expect things to change much much in Pennsylvania as far
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: as do your movement goes, especially buck movement.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Uh, it's definitely gonna change, and it's due with a
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: multiple of factors. I mean, we have a very large
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: hunting pressure numbers starting bear season just came in, and
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: then rifle seasons coming up next week. And the older
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: age class of bucks if they're not on a dough
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: basically the young fond does this.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: Uh, I see him going.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Back to their their places of hide that they've you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: survived four five and six years to get away from
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: the gun hunting pressure.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Gotcha? Gotcha? Okay, so those places, what do those places
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: look like? The hiding places?
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Man, it's very in so everywhere, but uh, steep hillsides,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: thick terrain, mountain orl thickets where they have isolated food
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: sources for you know, mature dear. Once they're done with
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: the rut here this next week, they like to be
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: isolated and kind of by themselves. You still may catch
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: one or two on some dough dough groups. You know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: you have that second cycle coming in about the third
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: of December here, and you might catch a buck on
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: his feet, you know, following some does, but a lot
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: of the majority is going to be isolated by themselves.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Cool. All right.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: So on a scale of one to ten over the week,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: what are you gonna rank buck movement in Pennsylvania?
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a pretty good I would
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: say seven, because we're getting some We're getting some weather.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: We're supposed to have really cool temperatures, some snow for
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: gun season, So that's gonna get deer on their feet
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: and they'll be seen.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Awesome, dude. Well, thanks so much for the report, Jake,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: and I hope you have a good rest of your year.
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: I appreciate it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Man. Thanks The Element's own Christopher Webb. Chris Webb is
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: on the phone. He has been having some success in Texas. Chris,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: what's happening?
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: Dog?
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: You know, just got one less tag in my pocket.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: That's nice, man. You still got how many you gotta lift? In?
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: Oh? In Texas?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Well? You know, when they're their bodies are so small,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: you have to kill quite a few to make up
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the meat. Yeah. Yeah, that's right, but you killed a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: really nice buck. Congratulations man, thank you. It's a funny.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Tyler tried to claim, you know, something in on it
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: because he had talked to you, But then I had
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: talked to you even more recently than he had, and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: so we all, you know, if you don't mind, Tyler,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and I would like to just also be included tiny
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: bit on the success.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: You can be the one that tags it though.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me about what that deer was doing.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: He was, I mean, it was ten minutes after first light.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: He was just searching, searching for DOZ and so I
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: had the camera I have there showed he was there
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  Speaker 4: about an hour earlier, and he was just you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: we're kind of entering that late stage here in North
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Texas where they're trying to find those last few dos,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: and so he was that's.
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: What he was doing.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Gotcha, what uh, what's the food source in that area?
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: That field has a couple oaks, and then I I
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: run corn there and then I also planted a bunch
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: of oats and stuff.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: So do you think are those oats look good? I mean,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: like you think that's a big draw for deer right now?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: As they look good? Yes, and as much as I
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: would like to say yes, it really hasn't been the
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: case right now. I think there's still so much food
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: in the woods and they like the corn. But we
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: haven't had a hard freeze yet.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, what's the weather been like? I mean, we've
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: been out of state, but I would assume because I
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: came back and it was like eighty Is that kind
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: of what it's been or is it hot yesterday compared
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: to what it has been the last few days.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: It's been mid days in the sixties and then love's
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: and like the mid to high forties.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: That's not too bad.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not bad deering weather, but still that cold
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: freeze would make a huge difference on hitting that green
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: food source. Right But you said you had this deer
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: on camera. Are you relying on camera day to quite
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: a bit to make moves right now?
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: Right now?
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: No, someme of the year is just getting the woods?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha. So do you feel like most
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: of the dos have kind of gone through cycle? Where
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: you're at or where are we at in the rut
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: in Texas right now?
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: I do think most have I hunt a pretty small
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: property that doesn't have a lot of dose. So I
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: think I know for sure that one of them has
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: from some chasing and stuff that I've seen and heard about.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: So some of the younger ones could come in later.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like the most it's still a
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: good time of year to do some calling right now.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Where I'm at, I've I've had no success calling, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I have been continuing to experiment, like with deer insight,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: seeing how they react to different stuff.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Are use deer calls or something different.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I rattled out a buck and then he just ran
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: off as fast as.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weirds when a dobin and buck gets after you, Man,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, Chris, Hey, I'm real glad Kse didn't use your
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: nickname in this podcast.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to get rid of it, man, is he Yeah
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: he did?
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like he made a good shot.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Was was there a grunt stop involved?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: No?
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: So the deer was eating something, I would assume.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Uh, he saw a little bit of movement up in
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: the tree when I drew my bow, and it still
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: was kind of dark, and he just really couldn't figure
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: out what I was. And he stopped at about seventeen yards,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: quartering to a little bit and I just put it
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: a little back of the front shoulder and watched him fall.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Oh. I thought you were going to say, throat patch,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: that's the way to go.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Hey, So this deer was in true cruise mode when
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: you first saw him. Yes, And do you expect that
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: to be the case in the next week, that deer
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: still in cruise mode and looking for dose more than
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: they're worried about food.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for Texas for sure. From just historical data and
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: what I saw this weekend, I expect that to continue.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Gotcha?
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Gotcha?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Can you feel like those pinch points and all are
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: going to be kind of the thing to focus on?
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Are you thinking about.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: More like dough betting or field edges or like what's
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the what's the go to right now?
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Field edges and dough betting and food are probably the
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: things I would focus on.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Gotcha?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Cool? All right, let's give it a ranking, man, on
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten. What do you think
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: buck movement's going to be like over the next week
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: in Texas?
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I think the next week's going to be a nine.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite weeks in Texas.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Man, I don't think I would disagree. I think it's
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: a really good week in Texas and thankfully you still
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: got tags in your pocket, man, so get out there
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and get it after.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I appreciate the repas. Yeah, absolutely anytime.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, the deer is still doing the thing
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: around the country and it's always a good time to
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: be in the woods as long as you've got an
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: open season. If you want to hear more about Tyler
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and I's success in the Midwest hunting some big old
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: deer out on the planes, which those two places kind
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: of sounded different, but they touch. They kind of sound different,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: but they touched, so it's kind of the same place.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's on the Element podcast this week. Go check that out.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: And then also also our very own Mark Kenyon, who
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: has graciously allowed us to bring these reports to you.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Mark put out a video on the Media channel a
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: few days back. It's called Hunting and Fishing road Trip
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: with Mark Kenyon. And this is back in the days
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: when he had facial hair. I don't know, does he
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: have that still. I know he shaped it for a
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: while there. I don't know, Yeah, well I think he had.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: He pulled some you know, some ideas from Buck Truck
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: for this, you know what I mean with facial hair,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: being in a truck and all that kind of.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: He tried to put a buck boat in that thumbnail
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: out there. Anyway, Mark's been out doing some cool stuff
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: and like he usually does, he does some He's one
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: thing Mark does really good is he like takes a
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: dream and makes it come to fruition. You know, like
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: like it's not just like sometimes we're just like a
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: it's just two dudes going and go him dear hunting.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Sometimes Mark's like, Hey, what's the coolest thing I could
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: possibly do? And I'm gonna go pull this on.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: That's right, I mean Mark. One of Mark's streams is
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to go do you hunt with us? And he pulled
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: it off one time.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Dude, isn't that crazy? Note I think he's been downhill
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: since then.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Go watch that video if you want. You guys, we're
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: gonna link all that stuff in the description below. Remember,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I know that we all want to get out and
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: hunt deer right now, and honestly, as a hunter, we
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: get one track minded a lot of times. But it
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: is a good time of year to stake a step
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: back and spend some time with your family, telling me
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: you love him, telling me thankful for him, and uh,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: get head out the door and go hunting.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Eagle hunting afterwards.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Make sure you do Thanksgiving the lunches so you can
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: hunt the afternoon. But no, really, I mean you're gonna
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: have a here, a lot of marketing this week about
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: going to stores and buying stuff and this and that
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: and the other. And you know, it is fun to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: give gifts, so I'm not saying that, but remember like
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: what this week is actually about. It's about giving thanks
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: for all that we have been given. And remember that
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: this has been rough, fresh keep it fresh.