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Legendary Play by Play Announcer Steve Holman Sr · Motor City Mad Mouth

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  Speaker 1: Happy.
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  Speaker 2: Was everybody? I'm happy? Why not? Most of him?
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  Speaker 3: Ed Mouth Show have a road treat on to night.
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  Speaker 3: His name was Steve Holman Senior, the legendary voice of
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  Speaker 3: the Atlanta Hawks. Once upon a time they used to
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  Speaker 3: play in the Omney Arena. Of course that probably wore
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people were born. Now they're at State
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  Speaker 3: Farm Arena. And I had an opportunity to meet Steve
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  Speaker 3: when he was the George Caster Georgia Sportscaster of the
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  Speaker 3: Air Award at the National Sports Media Association EVENTU at
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  Speaker 3: that time, I believe it was Ogan is in my
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  Speaker 3: Way Forest, Winston, Salem. There you go for a moment,
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  Speaker 3: and Steve and I spent time eating dinner together and
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  Speaker 3: had a wonderful time. And Steve has been a really
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  Speaker 3: good friend of mine and been wanting to get him
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  Speaker 3: out for a while. And I'll have an opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: do this and celebrate the most underrated because I say
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  Speaker 3: that because you're not as nationally as a lot of
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  Speaker 3: guys are known person on the planet. My goal is
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that people from the national level get
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  Speaker 3: to know who Steve Owensor is by the time we
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  Speaker 3: get to do with these child are going to know very much.
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  Speaker 2: We really are see. Thanks for doing this with me tonight.
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  Speaker 4: My pleasure always so.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, but that said, I have to ask you what
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  Speaker 3: inspired you to get into broadcasting.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I as a as a young young lad up
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  Speaker 4: in Massachusetts, I would listen to Johnny Most and I
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  Speaker 4: guess from the time I was eight years old, I
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  Speaker 4: decided I wanted to be Johnny Most and you know,
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  Speaker 4: and do that and ill, Luckily enough for me and
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  Speaker 4: you know, God Willie, I was able to do it.
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  Speaker 4: And I started at seventeen working for Kirk Goudie at
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  Speaker 4: his radio station in Lawrence, Massachusetts, my hometown. The first
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  Speaker 4: thing I did was go get a pass at the
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  Speaker 4: Celtics games from the great Howie McHugh, who at the
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  Speaker 4: time was the PR man along with Jeff Twist, who
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  Speaker 4: was a long time Celtics PR guy. He was an
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  Speaker 4: intern at the time. We were both we were both
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  Speaker 4: young at the time, and I started going to the games.
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  Speaker 4: I introduced myself to Johnny. Eventually he let me start
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  Speaker 4: keeping score for him, and one night in nineteen seventy six,
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  Speaker 4: he lost his voice. I had to take over and
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of a game, and then I did
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  Speaker 4: a couple more games after that another week or two,
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  Speaker 4: and next thing you know, I got hired in Boston
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  Speaker 4: at the CBS station. And then the guy that was
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  Speaker 4: my boss there, Mike Wheeler, came to Atlanta to start
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  Speaker 4: the all news radio station WGST, and he said, would
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  Speaker 4: you like to come to Atlanta? And kind of the
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  Speaker 4: rest is history.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing. I remember Jeff Twist. I covered a couple
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  Speaker 3: of games with the Pistons and the Celtics when I
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  Speaker 3: was out there. Basically enough, I broke for the torn
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  Speaker 3: leg on my left Angeles skiing out there. The chef
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  Speaker 3: is one of the nicest guys anybody could ever really meet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff's terrific.
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  Speaker 2: He was.
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  Speaker 4: He was featured pretty prominently in that Celtic UH series
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  Speaker 4: that they had on Max on HBO Max, which is
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  Speaker 4: still out there now. I think it's nine parts, and
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  Speaker 4: he's in quite a few of them.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff a super nice guy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, you know you talk about most, but were there
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  Speaker 3: any other announcers that you idolized in addition to him?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, growing up, I heard all
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  Speaker 4: the great ones, Chris Shankel Uh. You know, it was
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  Speaker 4: when I was a kid. It was just as the
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  Speaker 4: Patriots were starting in the AFL, So every NFL Sunday
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  Speaker 4: we would get Chris Shankle and the New York Football
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  Speaker 4: Giants uh into our into our area. So I actually
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  Speaker 4: grew up a Giants fan, uh, and I'm still a
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  Speaker 4: Giants fan. And I became more of one when uh
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  Speaker 4: when Eli went there, because Eli went to Old Miss
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  Speaker 4: and my youngest son and daughter in law both are
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  Speaker 4: Old Miss grads, so UH, I got that little connection there.
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  Speaker 4: And I still follow the Giants, although I am a
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  Speaker 4: Falcons fan all the way through right now. And also
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  Speaker 4: you know, Braves, Hawks, Falcons, everything Atlanta right now, I've
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  Speaker 4: been here. I've been in Atlanta now forty six years
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  Speaker 4: at August, so our forty make it forty five years
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  Speaker 4: in August and forty years with the Hawks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: You talk about the fact that you began your NBA
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  Speaker 3: career as an assistant with the Celtics and then you
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  Speaker 3: filled in for Johnny Moss and seventy six Chris, his
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  Speaker 3: voice was hoarse. Was that a dream come true for
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  Speaker 3: you to be able to be able to do some
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  Speaker 3: Celtics games growing up as a kid going full well
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  Speaker 3: what their history has been.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I grew up, you know, watching
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  Speaker 4: the Celtics all the time, and a lot of nights,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and the playoffs especially, they weren't on. They
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  Speaker 4: were blacked out because the games weren't sold out. Even
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  Speaker 4: playoff games sometimes weren't sold out, so they were blacked out.
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  Speaker 4: And I can remember the famous Havlichek Stole the ballgame.
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  Speaker 4: I was watching it through a bunch of snow on
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  Speaker 4: the screen. I had to pick up a Providence station,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and try to move the TV in certain
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  Speaker 4: ways back like we did in those days, and I
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  Speaker 4: could see it through the snow, and of course I
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  Speaker 4: had Johnny on, so I was actually listening and watching
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  Speaker 4: at the same time that that Hamilichik Stole the Ball
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  Speaker 4: thing happened, and it was amazing to listen to it
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  Speaker 4: live because I think everyone, I think everybody probably listening
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  Speaker 4: or watching to that figured once Bill Russell threw it
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  Speaker 4: off the Guy Wire, it was going to be all
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  Speaker 4: over with the Philadeli trot might score and pull off
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  Speaker 4: the upset in the series.
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  Speaker 3: Amazingly enough, when you talk about and you began, I
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  Speaker 3: began in nineteen seventy nine myself. I worked for WXYZ
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  Speaker 3: Radio as an assistant producer that subsequently.
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  Speaker 2: Went on the air.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm amazed at how similar our paths are when
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  Speaker 3: you get into it earlier. I've always liked radio and
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  Speaker 3: earlier been on TV a lot. But back then I
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  Speaker 3: took what was given to me, and it's a whole
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  Speaker 3: lot different than what they're doing with now with get
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  Speaker 3: in later in the show. So I like where you're
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  Speaker 3: going with a lot of this. So let's talk about
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  Speaker 3: your first radio job with Kirk Goudy. Here's a guy
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  Speaker 3: that's covered everything on the planet and he hires you
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  Speaker 3: for your first radio job.
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  Speaker 2: What was that like working for Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it was amazing because he was the you know,
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  Speaker 4: he was at the top of the mountain at the time.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he was doing the World Series, he was
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  Speaker 4: doing the NCAA Basketball Championships, he did the very first
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, and he was doing Super Bowls at that time,
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  Speaker 4: so he was he was the king of the hill
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  Speaker 4: and to be able to work for him was amazing.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, he did a couple of radio shows
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  Speaker 4: for NBC at the time, and he would send me
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  Speaker 4: out to the games at Red Sox or Celtics or
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  Speaker 4: whatever Bruins games, and for his show, I would have
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  Speaker 4: to interview people, mostly on the other teams that would
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  Speaker 4: come in, you know, for the national perspective on it,
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  Speaker 4: and I would ask them questions and they would I
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  Speaker 4: would have to ask them and have say yes, Kurt
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  Speaker 4: or answer like they were talking to Kirk Gowdy.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that really is amazing you work for a
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  Speaker 3: guy like Cam And of course I always used to
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  Speaker 3: watch him on the Major League Baseball Game of the
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  Speaker 3: Week as well as on Sundays he was paired with
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  Speaker 3: right Don Brody and.
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  Speaker 2: Ld Ro Goottas.
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  Speaker 3: So here you are having a chance to work for
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  Speaker 3: him with your first gig on radio, that to me
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  Speaker 3: was just sensational.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I did everything. I mean, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: not only did the sports, but you know at the
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  Speaker 4: time I was doing, I did the news. I played records.
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  Speaker 4: We actually played records back then. It was nineteen seventy one.
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  Speaker 4: Was my first first time on the air was Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 4: weekend of nineteen seventy one. So I played records, I
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  Speaker 4: did the news, I did did some games. I did
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  Speaker 4: a lot of softball games. They had Industrial League in
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  Speaker 4: my hometown. I would do Lawrence High games, basketball, football,
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  Speaker 4: you name it, twenty five dollars a game back then,
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  Speaker 4: and you know I would do all of that along
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  Speaker 4: with everything else. So it kind of you know, made
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  Speaker 4: me well rounded in the business for sure, to do everything.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that that's something that you know, maybe
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  Speaker 4: young people now don't don't really get to do, is
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  Speaker 4: to you know, immerse themselves into all of it and
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  Speaker 4: try to you know, try to progress that way. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: wants to be on Sports Center. Everybody wants to be
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  Speaker 4: on TV. Uh, you know the radio thing. You know,
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  Speaker 4: people do it now as a stepping stone for TV mostly,
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  Speaker 4: I think, and a lot of the young guys that
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  Speaker 4: are coming up, you know, Iron Eagle son Noah for instance,
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  Speaker 4: he did the Clippers for a couple of years and
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  Speaker 4: now he's off, you know, making millions to on NBC
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  Speaker 4: and and such, and you know, that's that's the way
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  Speaker 4: it is right now. But I think radio is still
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  Speaker 4: for play by play for games is still terrific. It's
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  Speaker 4: right there at the top, especially with the addition now
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  Speaker 4: of serious XM and you know, the NBA app and
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  Speaker 4: the Baseball app. You can get the you can get
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  Speaker 4: the games anywhere now just on your phone.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's terrific, well amazingly, Yeah, that that is
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  Speaker 3: totally unbelievable. When you talk about radio, one of my
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  Speaker 3: mentors is Ernie Harril. Did you ever have a chance
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  Speaker 3: to come in I have.
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  Speaker 4: I have met Ernie of course. You know, Ernie's an
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  Speaker 4: Atlanta native. Uh, and uh so everybody here knows knows
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  Speaker 4: all about Ernie used to do the Atlanta Crackers games
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  Speaker 4: before he started doing the Tigers and and made it
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  Speaker 4: big that way. Uh, you have Erny, very nice man.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Early in my career when I got here to Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: I had a chance to meet him a couple of times.
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  Speaker 4: And uh at one of the Braves uh Hall of
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  Speaker 4: Fame things, Warren Spawn was there, so I was able
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  Speaker 4: to get a chance to talk to him, and uh
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  Speaker 4: it was. It's been terrific to meet all these different people.
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  Speaker 4: And and if it wasn't for radio, wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 4: to do any of that.
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  Speaker 3: And and you're right, a lot of people don't really
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  Speaker 3: understand the value of radio. If you can talk and
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  Speaker 3: articulate radio and paint the picture, I would think he
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  Speaker 3: gives you a bigger advantage with that as a training
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  Speaker 3: ground before you ultimately get on TV or the pictures
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  Speaker 3: that and you fill in and try to wells out well.
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  Speaker 4: Play by play, you know, on radio teaches you to
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  Speaker 4: not use a script for anything. You don't have a teleprompter.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're doing the game. You're right out there.
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  Speaker 4: There's no eraser on a on a play by play broadcast,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And I think one of the one of
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  Speaker 4: the things that you see over the years, A good example,
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  Speaker 4: number one would be Al Michaels during the earthquake in
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  Speaker 4: in what was an eighty nine the World Series with
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  Speaker 4: the Oakland A's, when they had that out there, Al
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  Speaker 4: was able to jump in and basically do play by
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  Speaker 4: play of that. Uh. You know, when you get a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of news anchors that all they do is look
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  Speaker 4: at teleprompters all all day and all night, something happens
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  Speaker 4: that goes off script for them, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: it's they don't know, you know, they don't know what
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  Speaker 4: to say. But play by play guys have that experience.
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of times when there's a crisis or
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  Speaker 4: something happens, the play by play guys are the ones
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  Speaker 4: that can step in and really do do a better
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  Speaker 4: job with that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're right, and I think the right word that
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  Speaker 2: says about the anchor, Steve is helpless. They really do helpless.
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  Speaker 2: Dun't found it. I mean, I know you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: be nice about it, but it is what it is,
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  Speaker 2: right right, right, Yeah, they can't go out.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard when something happens off script. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: a but play by play, guys, it's it's what we
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  Speaker 4: do every day. So it's a it's it actually is.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's it kind of comes naturally to.
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  Speaker 3: Us and the ability to think on your feet, Candy,
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  Speaker 3: But you have time to do a quick station break.
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  Speaker 3: We'll go ahead and do that and give you a
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  Speaker 3: idea about where you're going to wind up to the
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  Speaker 3: next book.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 3: Katy will go ahead and do that real quick before
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  Speaker 3: we proceed it. We got a lot more coming here
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  Speaker 3: on the MotorCity Man Mouse Show.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Scott Morgan.
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  Speaker 3: Run needs to be joined by legendary broadcaster Steve Holman,
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  Speaker 3: and Steve, it's just so great to have you on
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  Speaker 3: and now.
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  Speaker 2: We get to do this.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll wait for Katy to come on and what
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  Speaker 3: she does she's taking doing a little bit of multitasking
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  Speaker 3: as well, so we'll here's the we'll keep it going.
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  Speaker 3: And I know she's called my travel agent right now
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  Speaker 3: as we get ready to go to Europe this summer,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm really looking forward to doing that as well.
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  Speaker 3: So I got, oh, yeah, I haven't been across the
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  Speaker 3: Big Pond before.
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  Speaker 2: Show she's working on that.
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  Speaker 3: So what we'll do is, well, she gets on in
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  Speaker 3: just a moment, okay, and she's already telling me that
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  Speaker 3: she's on the full with the agent, so we'll just
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  Speaker 3: keep her rolling. So let's talk about Atlanta right now.
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  Speaker 3: You move there in nineteen eighty, you cover the Falcons,
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  Speaker 3: you cover the Atlanta Chiefs, and of course she did
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  Speaker 3: baseball for Georgia Tech. And then you also proceed to
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  Speaker 3: do the ninety six Olympic Games with the men's and
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  Speaker 3: the women's basketball and boxing the only year the USA
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  Speaker 3: won the goal. So give me your thoughts about those
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  Speaker 3: entire overall experiences, about doing each and every one of those.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, the one of the first
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  Speaker 4: things I did along with Brad Dessler, who worked with
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  Speaker 4: we both arrived in Atlanta at the same station at
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  Speaker 4: the same day, I would do morning drive sports he
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  Speaker 4: was doing afternoon And one of the first things that
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  Speaker 4: we did with some Atlanta Chiefs games, the old outdoor
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  Speaker 4: soccer team that played Atlanta Fulton County Stadium, and we
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  Speaker 4: would broadcast those. That was quite an experience. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: then we did you know, the station had Georgia Tech games,
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  Speaker 4: the legendary late great Al Seraldo for many years did
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  Speaker 4: those games football basketball, but sometimes when there'd be a tournament,
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  Speaker 4: we would each take turns doing a game during that time.
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  Speaker 4: And for instance, I got to call the famous Dandy
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  Speaker 4: Ainge full court basket when they beat Notre Dame when
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  Speaker 4: Brigham Young won that game right at the buzzer. So
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  Speaker 4: that was one of the things that I was able
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  Speaker 4: to do. So it was a lot of great experiences.
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  Speaker 4: And then the Falcons. I worked on those broadcasts for
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  Speaker 4: five years with Bob Neil the first year at Harmon
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  Speaker 4: Wages and then the next four years of that I
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  Speaker 4: worked with Brad And you know, we at the time
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  Speaker 4: the NFL did a story on us. We were the
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  Speaker 4: youngest broadcast team in the NFL at that time, and
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  Speaker 4: now the two of us may be you know, one
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  Speaker 4: of the oldest teams. If we were we had to
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  Speaker 4: go back to it again.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the one thing I've always prayed about Atlanta. You
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  Speaker 3: bring up an interesting point. Lots of times when you
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  Speaker 3: build new stadiums, a lots of cities get rid of
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  Speaker 3: them within twenty thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: But Atlanta does a good job preserving a lot of
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  Speaker 2: its stadiums.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, the Georgia done went down and you had to
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  Speaker 3: let Atlanta fuld County Stadium go. But think about Turner
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  Speaker 3: Field is being used for Georgia Tech football.
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  Speaker 4: At Georgia State. Yeah, Georgia State.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm at Georgia. Ah.
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  Speaker 3: I got them confused. Older in the same state, Georgia
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  Speaker 3: State football. So that's great that they're using it. That's true.
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  Speaker 3: And I did get the Fulden County Stadium and it
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  Speaker 3: was any place, and you haven't been there before. Then
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  Speaker 3: I went to the old Georgia Town which was a
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  Speaker 3: cool place too, But out Georgia State's usual. I know
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  Speaker 3: the Braves have moved to the suburbs. So what are
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts about the way Atlanta handles its stadium situation?
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  Speaker 4: You know they they for two years we played at
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  Speaker 4: Georgia Tech, and we played at the Dome at the
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  Speaker 4: time while they were building which is now State Farm Arena.
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  Speaker 4: It was Phillips Arena at that time. So when they
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  Speaker 4: knocked down the Omni, they built the new arena right
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  Speaker 4: on the same location. So that's why we had to
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  Speaker 4: play games at the Dome for two years and at
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  Speaker 4: Georgia Tech. You know, we would bounce between the two.
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  Speaker 4: But the Phillips Arena was very nice and it's still
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  Speaker 4: still is, but it's like a brand new arena. It's
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  Speaker 4: like a totally different arena since we did the renovations
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  Speaker 4: on State Farm Arena a couple of four or five
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  Speaker 4: years ago now, and it's considered by all the visitors
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  Speaker 4: that come in, you know, broadcasters and such and other
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  Speaker 4: teams that they're just amazed at what it looks like now,
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  Speaker 4: and it's it's basically a brand new arena.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's obviously downtown when I was there before
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  Speaker 3: I went to the new Football Stadium. Isn't it adjacent
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  Speaker 3: to where the Falcons or right now? What is it Mercedes.
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  Speaker 4: Mercedes Benz Yes and Benz Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're practically across the parking lot right right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're very close and now we're building Centennial Yards up,
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  Speaker 4: so there's going to be hotels and restaurants and shops,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna have one of those mini domes like
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: they have the out in Las Vegas. You know they
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: you know where the Eagles are playing and the U
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: two started at the Sphere. So this dome that we're
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: building is going to be one of those mini ones.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I think there's one in Dallas now and there's going
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: to be one here in Atlanta. So they're gearing up
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: with the Centennial Yards, getting everything done and ready for
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: the twenty six when we have a lot of the
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: soccer games are coming in the World Cup, so they're
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: they're really gearing up for that.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: So I've heard talk about the NHL making another return
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: to Atlanta. They've had the Flames and the Thrashers. They
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: didn't work out downtown. Do you see the NHL going
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: back to Atlanta but only in the sun.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the that's the talk. In fact, there's a
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: there's a Flames hat for you right there, this guy
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: the Atlanta Flames.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: There.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: They're talking about the suburbs. There's an old mall uh
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: in in Alpharetta, which is about forty minutes north of
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: the city. Uh and they're they're talking about taking that
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: whole area of North Point Mall and turning that into
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: an arena. So I think it's a long way off,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: but there's still talk of it. And uh Anson Carter,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: one of the former NHL players who played for the Bruins,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: now is on the TNT coverage. I think he's still
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: involved in that, trying to bring a team here. He
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: lives in Atlanta. So I think there's still hope for it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: And and you know, you know, it was through no
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: fault of fans of hockey why the Thrashers left, because
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: you know, it turned out that the old owners, you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: they they they saw a deal that they had and
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: they really weren't interested in the hockey that much. So
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: I think there's a chance for it to come back.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And I know Gary Bettman has talked about it a
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: few times that he'd like to see a team back here.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: And of course we are, you know, we're in the
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: we're number eight I think right now in the TV
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: market in the country. So the NHL would love to
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: come back to Atlanta.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I agree, I mean, and you know, you only
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: like cook four hours away from Nashville, so you have
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: an automatic rivalry with the Predators right there. And of
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: course you know Atlanta and South Florida is always a
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: good rival that, right, So let's talk about your time
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: with the Hawks. I knew we're going to get to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: that sooner or later, but you've given me such a
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: wealth of information on Atlanta sports that I had to.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Pick your brain about that, and I think A allowed
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: me to do that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Now, you've been with the Hawks for forty years in
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: obviously now you've broadcast three thousand and eighty three consecutive games.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: How have you pulled this off?
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: That's regular season in playoffs, I don't count preseason. So
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: within down two hundred, I think two hundred and fifty
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: seven away from breaking chicks record check her and as
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the as the record of thirty three thirty eight, So
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: you know, within striking just now, certainly, and God willing,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: and you know I can do it. I think I
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: can maybe pull it off. And you know, Chick worked
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: until he was eighty six, and you know I'm a
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: youthful seventy one right now, so I think I can.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I think I can do it, you know, as long
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: as they let me and I can still speak and
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: do it. I'll continue to do it and I have
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: no plans on stopping.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: So how will you feel when that time comes that
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: you're able to break chick HER's record. Now, let me
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: tell you this. I met Chick Hern years ago with
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the Pine at Silver Domago Pistons were playing the Lakers
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: in the NBA Finals, and one of the nicest guys
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I've ever.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, very nice. He was very nice to Steve Junior
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: came with me on a trip out out west and
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: he took pictures with him and it was great. He
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: was very nice. And his wife, Marge, who's also passed
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: now since then, she was always very nice. Even after
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Chick passed, she would still come to the games and
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: she'd speak to me and speak to all of the announcers. So, yeah,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: it would be quite if it happens, which I hope
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: it does, God willing, I hope it happens. And if
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: it does, and it's going to be an accomplishment that I,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: you know, have have had an eye on for a
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: long time because it's one of those records that a
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: lot of the announcers even have said, oh, nobody will
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: ever touch that. Chi current record, you know, because always
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: something happens and somebody has a streak gear and a
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: streak there, and then they miss a game or or whatever.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: But it's just one of those things that you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: it kind of means a lot to me to show
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: up every day to work and you know, and just
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: be there every night.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: So what do you attribute your durability to. Is it
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: a good diet or the you need or work out.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess I've been you know, I've
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: been blessed, as they say, I mean, you know, I've
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: been sick. Certainly, I've had I've had some throat issues
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: that I've had. Many doctors here in Atlanta have helped
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: me through on many games, and there were probably a
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: lot of nights that I shouldn't have worked that I did.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I remember one time I was really bad coming back
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: from New York. I believe I had pneumonia, and they
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: gave me an adrenaline shot in one of my cheeks
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: and they you know, they gave me another shot of
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: something and the other one and and they got me
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: through the game. It was a big steroid shot, you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: plus plus the the adrenaline, so I was able to
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: do it, but there have been a few instances like that,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: but otherwise I've been I've been very lucky as far
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: as health and and that kind of thing. So you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: like I say, if I can continue, I try to
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: walk every day. I have a new dog that you
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: could probably hear in the background, uh, Teddy, named after
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Ted Williams. He just turned a year. So we walked.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: There's a place in Noon in Georgia where I live
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: called the Link, which is one of those walking paths,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: and we walk up there a lot of mornings and
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: go four or five miles. So that keeps me, keeps
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: me in pretty good shape.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: So when I talk on iron Man, I only really
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: turned my mind to me they're probably others. I look
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: at Lou Garrig and Cal Ripkin, right, you deal when
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: somebody puts you in the.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Iron Man category of a Lou Garrigg and a.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's it's amazing to be, you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: even mentioned in that. I remember when I passed the
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: the cal Ripken thing, what was he twenty six something?
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, twenty six thirty two. So when I
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: passed that, in fact there was it was a scheduling conflict,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: but I know the Hawks had probably they had tried
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: to have Cal Ripken at the game when I broke
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: his record, but it didn't work out. I was hoping
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: it would because he comes to our games once in
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: a while. He's been around a little bit, but that
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: would have been kind of neat. But just to be
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: in the same you know, conversation with that, and you
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: know what, my old buddy John Stirling, who did the
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: games when I first started eighty five eighty six with
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: the Hawks, I would do radio when he did TV.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I never counted those games that I did. There's probably
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: another one hundred or so that I've done, but I
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: didn't count till he left to go do the Yankees
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: in the eighty eight eighty nine season. That's what I
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: started counting. But John, he he went for years and
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: years without miss He did over five thousand, I think consecutive,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: you know, because they play one hundred and sixty two games.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: We play eighty one. But John, John's an iron man
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: on his own right. You know, he just retired and
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I talked to him, you know, every every so often
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: we stay in touch, so you know, John is one
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: of those iron men too.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw John a couple of years ago it
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: was fortunate enough to take a picture. You mean to
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: tell me you weren't counting those other games?
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Not didn't count. I didn't start counting, you know, it
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: didn't never really dawned on me to do it. I
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: guess I could go back and do it. But I
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: didn't do every game play by play. Then, you know
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: that I would do when John did TV, I would
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: do radio, and then the games that he would do
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: on radio, I would I would be with him and say,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: that's right, John, You know that would be my that
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: would be my job on those games, all right.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: So you felt like you were able to do them
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: to the fullest capacity, which is why you were able,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: which is why you decided and tell them.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Is that correct? Right? Yeah?
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Exactly? I started. In fact, I didn't really I went
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: back and started counting. When it got to be you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: one hundred and two hundred and three hundred, just kind
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: of people would say to me, well, how many games
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: have you done? Or this and that, And along with
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: our PR people and a couple of the newspaper guys
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: here in Atlanta, we went back and put that all together.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: When it was starting to get to be a thousand
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: and then it was two thousand. So I've got basketballs
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: for one thousand, two thousand, and three thousand, and I
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: have three grandkids, so each of them we'll be able
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: to get one of those and have that as a
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: souvenir after Gramps has gone.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: That's funny, unbelievable.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: So I have to ask you, have you ever been
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: offered a national TV opportunities or jobs with bigger market.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: We'll talk on national TV and then jobs of other markets.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: No.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there have been people always over
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: the years about Boston. You know when I go back
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: that I do. I want to go back. I've been here.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I've been here so long now, I know. As far
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: as any national No, I've done national radio a few times,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: you know, the Olympics and and some of the other
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I used to cover the Masters every year before I
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: started doing the Hawks for for Westwood One. It was
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Mutual then Mutual Radio back then. I would do that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, I've there's none of the
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: TV or anything like that. I do have the what
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: they call the face for radio, so you know, I'm
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: happy to do what I am. I'm what they call
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: a lifer, and you know I set out to do that. Really,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be Johnny Most or you know, just
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: one of those guys that stayed stayed with the team forever,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: because I wanted to be one of those guys that
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: people would bring their kids to a game and say,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: you know, I used to and it happens now I
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: get pictures and and that that kind of thing. So
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be Johnny or Vince Gully or you
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: know any of the guys that have been for years
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: and years. Ernie Harwell did it for years and years
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: in Detroit, and uh, you know, I just I just
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: wanted to be that and and it really it makes
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: me happy nights at the games when people do come
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: up and they bring their kids and want to take
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: a picture or whatever. So, uh, for me, it's been
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: that's been a rewarding part of all of this. And uh,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: to be around all the players that I've been around
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: over the years with the Hawks, and I still see
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: some of them once in a while, I'll bump into them,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: and you know, they'll remember that the times they were here,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: So that's always fun. And I've had eleven coaches that
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: I've been with with the Hawks over the years. So
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: it's been great.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but one about bigger TV markets.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know how good you are anyways, yeah, or
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: manner to it all?
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: No, that never really did. I mean I quite honestly.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, nobody's come docking up my door about it,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: so I don't you know, And if they did, I
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: don't know if I you know, very happy here. The
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: boys grew up here and uh, you know, that's that's
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: I've been happy with that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: We'll bring in Katy Imley for a quick station break
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: to have some more great topics to talk about with
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Steve Holeman, senior legendary broadcaster for the Atlanta Hawk. Glad
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Steve Kenny will give us the station break, we will
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: continue in the conversation. Having a good time, Steve.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I'm having a great So I'm gonna let my dog
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: out the door right now, all right, one second, just
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: give me one second, let him outside here.
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• 28:35
  Speaker 3: That man across the screen from me, mister Olwen's going
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: to be in the next one. When I write this
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: bad Boy and I start outlining it in Your Great Suffer,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: and we alluded to it before.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Now we're gonna touch mya on it again.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: So it sounds like to me that you really enjoy
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: being the local guy Anyways, two of the people I
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: really come to mind and me have always been George
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: blahow did Troy Pistons and Eric read You're the Miami
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Heat and you remind me of that total typical guy
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: where I want to be the guy that they always
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: take the photos with, that they always remember George. Comment
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: on George Blaha and then after that, please talk about
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Eric Reid.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Well, George is just you know, he's phenomenal. He always
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: has been. He's been one of the nicest guys to
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: me when I first started. And as you know, he's
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: going into the He's getting the Kurt Goudi Award this
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: year at the at the Hall of Fame in Springfield.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: That is certainly well deserved. I don't think we have
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: enough of our our local announcers in that, you know,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: we have, We've had our share, but they seem to
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: go for the Nationals, you know, a little bit more.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: But it's great Al McCoy made it into the Kurt
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Goudi Award. Of course, Johnny Most and you know Marv
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: and guys like that. But I think we need more
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: of the local guys. So it's great that George George
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: did it. I mean George is in his fiftieth year, right,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: it's going to be fifty one, I think next year.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: And I think he just turned eighty or eighty one.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: So he's just he continues to roll in. So he's great.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: And I've known Eric for years too. He used to
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: be up in uh Providence, up that way, and uh
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: so I've known him a little bit since then. But
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: he came in I think when the when they first started, Uh,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: he was working with what was it Sam who did
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: the Miami games first. Uh, he came in right after him.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I think I.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Memory, but yeah, I think I know who you are,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: but I will Yeah, Mir Albert certainly one of the
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: best basketball ones. And I recently had on this very
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: show Kenny Alberts, who's a very good friend of mine
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: at all. And of course you obviously think the world
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: of Eric read.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Don't you.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Eric's Eric's a great guy and uh,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: you know, like I say, I've known him for years.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Kenny too. Uh. You know, Kenny's one of those guys
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: just like his dad, just you know, he does everything, hockey, basketball, football.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I think he just wrote a book too, Kenny did.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: And of course Marv had that famous book that he wrote.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I'd love to, but I have game, which is exactly
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: the way most of us are. You know, we get
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: invited places and say, well, I'd love to, but we
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: have a game. You know, that's the that's the way
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: it goes. That's part of the business.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Well, last summer, amazingly, how you mentioned that, Steve, But
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Kenny and I we did do a book swap.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I sent him mind, he sent me his.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: We've both signed it back and forth to each other,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and he was kind of enough to come on my
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: show as well.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about some of the highlights that you
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: had in Atlanta. Yeah, obviously had one of the best
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: players I've ever watched, Dominique Wilkins. But tell me some
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: of the players, the coaches and as well broadcast as
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: even joined working with with the Hawks.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, we've had so many guys
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: come through a Dominiques right at the top. I mean
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: we still on our Hawks charter. I sit right across
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: the aisle from him, so you know, we've been friends
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: for forty something years. You know, even before I started
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: doing the games, I would I would cover some of
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: those Hawks games when he started in eighty two. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: came in in eighty five eighty six. But you know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: the coaches have been terrific for the most part. Really. Uh.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: I'd say a couple of my favorites were Lenny Wilkins,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: who was here for seven seasons.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: You know, Lenny is just one of the nicest guys ever,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: not only a great coach, but a terrific person. Mike
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Woodson was another one of my favorites of all time.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: He was here for seven seasons as well. And I
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: don't know if you saw this earlier, what he just
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: got the associate head coach job with the Sacramento Kings.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: So he's going to work with Doug Christia and with
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: the with the Sacramento Kings. So I'm glad that what
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: he's back. And you know, he had been in Indiana
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: for several years his alma mater, so now he's back
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: in the NBA.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Woodson's a really good coach. I had the
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: opportunity to work with Chuck Day myself and Rick Carlel's
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: a good coach that got his team really going with
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: a strong marriag Yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Rix.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Rick's good guy too. I mean, Rick's been around for
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: so long second stint with the Pacers, and I'm really
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: happy for him that they've been able to win both
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: of those games. And you know, we'll see what happens
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: the rest of that series. But there were so many
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I can't say there's really anybody that's been you know,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: anybody that I didn't didn't care for. You know, there've
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: been a couple of coaches here and there, but for
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: the most part, it's been it's been terrific. And all
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: the players that have come through the doors, I'm not
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: sure exactly. Somebody asked me how many I'd have to
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: figure that all out, but it's probably not as many
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: as you think because several years. There's not a lot
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: of turnover. When we were in the those eighty five,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: eighty six you know, the famous eighty eight series, the
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Larry Bird Dominique series, a lot of those guys stayed
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: around for a while, you know. So Doc Doc Rivers
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: is one of my favorites. He was here for nine
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: years and up until Trey Young passed him this year
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: on the assist leader. Doc held that assist record for
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: the for the Hawks for many many years.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people don't realize that takers
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: played with the Hawks for sure, and we're going to
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: talk about Trey Young. Were actually right, now, tell me
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: a little bit about this guy here. Is a very
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: fiery individual as he put people in the stands. And
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: how good of a player is he?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Well, he's he is much beligned. I think nationally he
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: doesn't get nearly the credit that's due him. Again, this year,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: he led the league by a wide margin and assists
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: and the assist ratio. You know, he was one of
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: the top play eight and he had more clutch shots
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: than anybody. He made more clutch shots than anybody in
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: the league this year and amazingly, they didn't even make
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: him one of the finalists for that Clutch award. So
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: you know, it's crazy to me, but Trey has been
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: so good and we're starting to put some really good
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: players around him. Jalen Johnson, who spent a lot of
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: the year hurt, he comes back healthy this year. We've
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: got a very young team, and you know, Dyson Daniels
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: who came here and all of a sudden became the
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: defensive player of the year and the NBA led the
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: league in steals by a phenomenal margin. I mean, it
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: wasn't even close. So we've got guys that are twenty one,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: twenty two. Zach resis the number one draft pick out
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: of France. He nineteen. He just turned twenty. So in fact,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: there was one time during the playoffs that are starting
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: five had a younger average age than the Auburn starting
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: five did the tournament. So that's how young our team is.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: And I think that the future is really bright right now.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Talk to me about Quinn Snyder. He did a really
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: good job at the Utah Jazz and he pulled him
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: into Atlanta.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Quinn, you know, Quinn was here. Quinn was
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: here with coach Budd for a year before he got
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: the Salt Lake job, so he was familiar with Atlanta
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: and you know, we of course were familiar with him.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: And he's just one of those He's a basketball genius,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, he really is. He's he's one
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: of those guys that you know, he he just knows
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: it inside out. He's got great schemes and just to
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: watch him at shoot arounds and when we're on the
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: road and see some of the things that he can
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: put in and plays and just his imagination of it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: And I like the way that he uses. He is analytics,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: but not like overboard like some people do. He does
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: go by the theory that three is better than the
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: two anytime, because you know, the three's three is more
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: than two, at least even with new math it is.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: So that's what his theory is, you know, kind of
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: tee at high and let it fly. Maybe not to
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the extent that the Celtics the other night shot sixty
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: and what they make fifteen out of sixty, but he
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: loves he loves the three pointer, and you know it
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: makes sense mathematically and just everybody can shoot them now,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: even in Yeka Congo our center. He spent the whole
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: summer learning how to shoot threes. He did really well
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: with them this year. So, you know, if if we
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: can get another big guy with our team to back
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: up and Yakka and be solid in the middle. We
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: didn't have enough size, I don't think this year. So
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: we can get some size and add a player here
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: and there. I think I think the Hawks can be
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: very good this year.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was my excellence.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: So you think they're probably a player or so away
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: with a big guy, so that bit more formable.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think that. I'm sure without the injuries
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: this season, I'm sure we would have been at least
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: in the top six and missed that play in thing.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: So that's that's gonna be one of the things that
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: they really key in on this season. Three years in
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: a row, you know, we've been in the play in
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: so uh, this year is the year that they really
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: want to make sure they can get into that top six.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: So you bring up another great point things we called
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: the GMT A theory on the mortisity Man Show, great
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: mindset a like. Obviously you and I are doing exactly that.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Just for those of you that are joining us on YouTube,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: my name is Scott Morgan ROV pleas be joined by
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Steve Holman, senior legendary broadcaster the Iron Man. I'm broadcasting
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: not too far away from chick Hearn. But he breaks
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: his record some two hundred and fifty some games away,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: there'll be a record that will never be broken. Anyways.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not a betting man, but if I bet, I'd
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: be betting on that anyhow. Nevertheless, when you talk about
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: that play in tournament, you've got two things that really
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I think about what the NV is doing. I don't
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Number one and again just my opinion. Okay, I don't
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: like the NBA top to me, it's a gimmick. I
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: don't like it. But that's just my opinion, okay, just mine.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Well, I really liked it this year because we made
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: it were we were in the we were in the
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Cup tournament. If you remember we you know, we beat
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Cleveland twice. We beat Boston twice this year, and we
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: beat the Knicks twice, and one of those wins against
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: the Knicks was the game that put us into Las Vegas.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: You know, we had won a game and then went
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: into New York. So we had to pack for either
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: coming home after the game in New York or go
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: right to Vegas. So you know, we won, you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: thank goodness, we won and went right to Vegas. We
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: got to Vegas at four thirty five in the morning
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: and then you know, played two days later and against Milwaukee,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: and it was it was quite an experience. Really. I
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: thought it was great for our young guys to be
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: to be in that kind of atmosphere. It was almost
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: it was almost like a you know, a playoff final situation.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: We had all the NBA people were there. It was
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: big time for our guys. I think it really was helpful.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Well, what do you think the NBA Cup is like?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: In just general?
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: For the I like it. I think I think Adam
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Silver's come up with something, you know. I mean, you've
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: got to try, You've got to try to do things
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: that will be a little innovative and and get get
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: people interested in And I think there were a lot
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: of teams, a lot of fans were interested in that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: You know, it's a good mid season thing where we're
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: kind of in a lull maybe at that point of
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: the year, and and to be able to follow a
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: team and hope that they make it into that. I
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: think it's terrific. I really have. I don't have any
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: problem with it at all.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why you're in the business, and that's why
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I'm here interviewing. You've getting your opinions.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I have no problem from the post part.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: It's just to be you know what. I still maybe
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I'm just getting used to it. I don't know, But nevertheless,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: it does give these players a chance under pressure situation,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: something is on the line, and.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I'll go there. What about the play in though, Hi, Brian.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Well, the play in, like I said, we've been in
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: it for three straight years. The first year we won,
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: we actually you know, won the first game at home,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: then went to uh we went into Cleveland in fact
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: and won, and then went went into the into the
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: next into the regular playoffs to play against Boston, and
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Trey won a game in Boston in that series, two
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: of the three pointer right at the end, So it
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: was exciting. I think it's great. It adds more interest
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: for more teams and for more fans. I mean, you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: this year we were eight, we would have been in
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: the regular playoffs, So that's one thing that worked against
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: us because we weren't in the regular playoffs because of
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: the play in. But I think the fact that we
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: have ten teams now instead of just eight that are involved,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: you know that you have to if you're number ten,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: you have to win twice and to make it. And
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: if you're the seven eight, if you happen to win
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: the first game, you're all all of a sudden number seven.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: So I think it's a good thing. And I think
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I know, the ratings have been very good on ESPN
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: when they've carried those, so I don't think it's going away.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I think that's that's something that's here to stay.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Last year, the Detroit Pistons won a mere fourteen games.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: This year, they really turned it around and made it
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: and they lost to the New York next we're your
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: thoughts about what they've done in Detroit in just one
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: short year.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I, you know, I think jb has done a
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: great job with them since he came in, and they've
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: got a lot of great young talent, and I think
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: it was good for them to be to be in
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: that series against the Knicks and learned from that. You know,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Kate Cunning had a couple of games where he was
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: a little off, and those are the things you learn
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs. You can't they always say you can't
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: win until you lose, and you've got to get one
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: of those lost series under your belt.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: So I know, Quest that you've probably hit with a
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: lot and you get to hit hit it again. If
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: you had to choose the greatest of all time between
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Lebron James and Michael Jordan, you go.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Not much of a question for me. It's Michael Jordan.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's any I don't think there's any
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: question on that. Really. You know, Lebron's great and he's
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: had a great career, and he's he's got a lot
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: of things going for him with but you know, you
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: I hear the arguments and all of that, but I
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: don't think you can you can duplicate what Michael Jordan
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: did ever again. So I have to put him right
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: there at the top. But you know, a lot of
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: people talk about and I really love Will Chamberlain. I
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: mean the things that he did. You know, that goes
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: back probably too far for people that are you know,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: have what have you done for me lately? Crowd? But
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: you go back to Wilt and Oscar robertson those kind
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: of guys, Bill Russell, I mean, those are all all
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: time greats. But if you had to pick between Michael
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: and Lebron, I would go Michael one hundred percent.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: You know, Steve, I'm not so sure if Lebron would
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: even make my own top ten.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: I I don't see. I don't do a lot of
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: that top ten and stuff or whatever. But he's good.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's going to look at him, he's, you
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: know what, forty years old now, I mean, and he's
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: still going and you have to have a lot of
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: respect for him for what he's done in his career.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I do. But what do you think of all
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: the great players that have played in this league?
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I know, yeah, there's a lot.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: That's always a great debate. I mean, you've got a
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: lot of players that you know, young people now don't
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: even consider some of these guys. You never hear wil
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Chamberlain's nay, really mentioned at any of those And he
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: only didn't win more championships because he would run into
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: the Celtics at the time. And you know, the Celtics
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: were so far above everybody else in the sixties then,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: and you know that that's why. But will I mean
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: he was, he would he had forty rebounds. Sometimes in
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: a night he'd score fifty points and have forty rebounds.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, my goodness, how can you be better than that?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to give you a list of names here, Dan,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I want you just to give me your basic opinion,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: just maybe a few of them. We already talked Lebron James.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Give me a brief description how you would describe Lebron
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: in general? What do you what do you think that
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: comes to mind?
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Well, I think Lebron is an iron man in his
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: own right. I mean, just to be able to play
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: as long as he has and to stay as healthy
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: as he has over the years, He's really been basically
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: injury free for the most part. Uh So that that
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: durability is where I'd put him right now, Michael Jordan,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: I would say it's still the best, the greatest, you know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: more championships and all the things that he's done just
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: just terrific. Top of the mountain.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Magic Johnson, Magic.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Terrific too, played all those positions for the Lakers, was
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: able to step in and do everything, really and he
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: he was. He had a lot of Bob Coosey in him.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: You know, they used to call him the Houdini of
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: the hardwood, and Magic did a lot of those same
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: kind of things.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Larry Bird, Larry.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: I think even now, believe it or not, I think
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: he's underrated by a lot of people. The things that
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: he could do, the passing, the shooting, the three point shots.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: You know that that eighty eight, the famous Game seven
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: between the Dominique and Larry and the two teams. That
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Game seven, I believe there were three three pointers tried
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: in that game, I mean the whole game by the
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: both teams. So but Larry could shoot him. You saw
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: him in that twenty won and he turned away and
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: he knew, all right, who's going to finish second? I
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: mean he was. If he didn't hurt his back, who
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: knows how much he would have done.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: One of my favorite stories of Larry Bird and I
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: was covering the Pistons and the pacers and he was
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: the actual coach. I asked him after the game, after
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: everybody was done, talked to him, said Coach Burke, I
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: was really being very respectful, and not only because when
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: he went to Celtics, I said, I know you were
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: not one of the better athletes that's ever played the game,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: but I did it, Steve in a very respectful way.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: What made you better than and a lot of the
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: other players. So he says the response, because I get
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: told my name's Scott, here's what made me he would
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: do well in the game. You don't have to be
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: the better athlete. You just have to outthink your opponent,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: like three.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Steps I had of the game, and that's what this
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: guy was. He's think he's the ultimate man's thinker. He
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: was able to outthink his opponent and thinking it's a
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: tool that you just can't teach, you really can't.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: And he fut three steps I had. Let's go to chatman.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I'm start to get little bit interesting here. Brian Petty says,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: James would be in my lower top ten. How I
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: got some people chiming and it does happen there. Number
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: thirty three Liary Bird, the passing, shooting, rebounding ig and
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: to say the least household Jai, one of our big followers,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: and he says he's wearing his hat. I had some
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: hats out here too. I have to get you one
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: once when I get out there, I'm wearing am I
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: really seriously really at watching the legend do his word,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: So I have to get you one of those. I
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: have a lot of fun with that, really seriously, really
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: because nowadays twenty twenty five he say those three.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: But you know another thing about Larry. I'm a little
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: biased about Larry because I was the PA announcer in
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Boston his rookie year. So I did that for two
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: seasons seventy eight seventy nine when the Celtics won twenty
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: five games I believe it was. And then the next
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: year Larry came in and we won sixty that next year,
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: so you know he turned that right around too. So
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: I have, you know, great respect for Larry and you know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: I have a great picture with my son that it's
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: up on the wall. And he's always been very cordial
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: and you know, not exactly the you know, as we
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: would say, not red buttons back in the old days,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: we'd say, but Larry has been terrific and to be
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: to be around him that rookie season was was amazing.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Well, the only I don't really think, well, Larry Bird,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Magic Johnson together collectively his they saved the NBA from
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: going bankrupt.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: They were, Yeah, they were, I mean, that was Larry.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: They did the seventies. You know, in the early part
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: of the seventies and mid seventies, the league was in
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of trouble. I mean there were a lot
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: of drugs and and that kind of thing. So so
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: they did they came along with that championship game in college,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: and then they brought it to the NBA and then
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: you know, they passed the torch on to Michael and
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: guys like Dominique and uh, you know, and then there's
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: always going to be somebody comes along. Every time they think, oh,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: how are we going to replace this guy? There's always
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: somebody comes along and does replace them.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you think of those two, they saved
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: the NBA.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: They did, they did. Yeah, they put it on the
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: map again.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you one thing. When you talk about Erle.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Barkley, David Stern too was part of all that he was.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: He was great with all of that.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Well, David Stern, thanks Magic and Larry to this day.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: But Charle Barkley. Actually, I have a photo of them
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: in my book at NSMA convention was unbelievable.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I love Charle Berkeley because that only day.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: He's great. He's he's one of the nicest guys too.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I mean people see him on TV. A lot of
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: people that young people don't remember when he played. I
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: mean he was. He was a terrific player. The round
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: bound of rebound is what they always called him. And
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: you know he's a he's a great guy too. He
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: does a great job on that TNT show. And when
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: when my son was ten, I brought him to a
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: game in Philadelphia. I would take him on a trip,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: usually on his birthday, and he was in Philly and
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: I remember after the game and I couldn't figure out
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: how Charles knew this. We were in the hallway ready
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: to leave to go back to the hotel because we
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: didn't have charters back back that far long ago. Charles
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: came out down the hallway and he said to my son,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: a happy birthday. And it had been in the notes
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: that he was at the game, and so Charles apparently
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: had looked at the notes and and knew that it
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: was Steve Junior's birthday. So he came out and said that.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: So I've always every time I see see him now
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: at various functions and things, I always mentioned that to
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: him and and he, you know, he says he remembers it,
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: but I don't know if he does. But that was
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: That's something that I'll always remember.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: He talks about Isaiah Thomas.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: Not one of my favorites. Uh, you know, I always
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: said what he played phony smile and that kind of thing.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: One of the greatest things ever was when he threw
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: that Inbounds Past and Larry Stolen gave it to Dennis Johnson.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: That was that was great, Okay, I can appreciate that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Being a Detroit guy, Isaiah I covered the Bad Boys,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: so yeah, and I actually have a floor piece of
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: their floor in my living It's unbelievable, But it was
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: definitely a fiery player, to say the least.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: To Rick, you know, work was a coach with us
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: for a year. He was an assistant coach here. So
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: and now he does the radio with UH with Mark
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Champion with the Pistons, and so he does a good
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: job with that too. So I like Rick a lot.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: You know, Uh, Lambert, I could you know, I could
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: take her leave Lambert, I.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Don't like him, So you and I are definitely in
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: the same time. Let me tell you Lambert forgot about
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: it another ten to twelve minutes ago, but I had
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: a couple more good questions I want to throw your way.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I was at Boston Garden. I love watching games in
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: the Boston Garden. And you know, Jack Twist once again
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: took good care of me.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: In that time.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I had a busted up ankle thro the ligaments and
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: and I got into a little exchange with Bill Lambert.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: On my ally was Dennis Rodman, and I told Bill
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Lambert to his face, just because you can't, just because
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: you can make your current payment doesn't necessarily I can make.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Mine without working. And Dais Rodman went to Batman. Did
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: that day.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, Dennis and I were good friends, and
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: the thing is that you do tend to build relationships.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: But on that very trip, though, I had a chance
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: to see David Robinson play his first game. Let me
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: tell you that Celtics fans are really, really, really impressed. I've
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: often wondered, though, that you feel that announcers that have
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: kids have a bit more of an advantage over those
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: that don't to be able to get jobs, because we've
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: talked about some of the names over often wondered about
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: this because you see how the apple doesn't fall from
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: the three, so to speak.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Well, there are a lot of great broadcasters that are
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: out there right now that happened to be sons of
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: of great broadcasters. And it's not that they're not great broadcasters.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: They did get a head starter. Although you know when
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: when your your father is is Jack Buck or uh,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: your father is Kurt Gowdy. Like Kurt Gowdy Junior became
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: one of the top producers, uh you know for the
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: he did the Kentucky Derby with ABC for many years
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: and then he and in fact he's still kind of
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: I think he's sever he retired now, but he kind
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: of runs that uh the MSG not MSG that the
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: s n Y network in New York, so you know,
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: and all these other broadcasters is uh, Skip Carrey, Chip Carrey.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: You know they came from Harry Carey. Uh and there's
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys like that, but they're all they're
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: all very good broadcasters. Uh. It just happens. They they
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: had the right you know, they had their they were
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: the right jet pool at the right time, so they
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: had that advantage over other people. My father was a draftsman,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: so I had no no in anywhere when I started.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: You know, I just like I say, I would go
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: into the radio station and in my hometown and practice
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: on weekends. They finally put me on, and they put
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: me on weekends, and then I one thing led to another,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: so you know, I had to work at it. And
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of great broadcasters that have worked at it,
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: and I kind of feel I've got to hang my
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: hat on that that I you know, my father was
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: not in the business, so I kind of feel like
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: I did it on my own.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's I think you should feel very satisfied
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: that you went in there, you created your own trail,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: You were good enough to continue to make lose and
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that's an inspiring know which leaves me come my next us.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: And boy, I'll tell you I've looked at a booth
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: with you one time, going back and forth. I'm having
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: so much phone. Maybe you got to give me an
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: opportunity to come to a hawk came. At least let
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: me sit next to you, because now they put us
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: all the way up in the pot.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: That's not me. Get me over to State from Arena, please, I.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: You know, when you want to come, we'll do it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Really, I'd love to do that. I really would love
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: to come to Atlanta and do it. I just imagine
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: what it's like for you and I just sit there,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: you know, and be able to go out there and
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: do this. It's always been a dream of mine. Never
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: really worked out for because I became, you know, a.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Writer and all that.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: But I've always yearned on the opportunity to play by playing.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean I would ever want to do
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: it the right Situaice came. But now I run my
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: own business here. But I don't tell you that I've said,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: alongside of you and do this would be something I
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: would really be thrilled to do. So that leads me
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: to my next point, though, Steve, what advice would you
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: give to a lot of the younger generation, Because let
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: me pair the fact that number one, Okay, you have
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: new media, Internet, social media, and you've got a lot
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: of different aspects of this connected. It's not like when
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: we were in old school media. You had to earn
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: your way into business. Now there's so many different ways
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: to do it through podcasts and so forth. But it
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: was a tougher dig Steve when we got involved. But
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: how are you adjusting to this new format, which is
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: what my book is a lot of.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know the podcast things. I do
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: a bunch of them, and you know, they're they're great.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I listened to some of them. You know, it took
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: me a while to figure out what it all was.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't real, it wasn't radio, it wasn't TV.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: You know. But I think we've advanced past that now
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: a lot of things like look at Pat McAfee's show.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: It's so successful, you know that third hour he does
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: just on YouTube. I mean, it's it's great. I mean
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: it's terrific. But the advice I always give when I
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: speak to college kids or even high school kids about it,
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: they want to get into broadcasting. Number one. I always
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: say beyond time, the early. It sounds very simple, but
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: if you're early some you never have to worry about
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: being stuck in traffic or anything like that. For I
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: leave my house about three point fifteen for a seven
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: thirty game, and it's about a forty minute drive to
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: State Farm Arena. But I like to get there and
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: get set up and get everything spread out and ready
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: to go have to worry about it if there's an
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: accident on the connector or anything else. So that's one
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: of the things I do, and I always tell I
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: always tell kids to try to learn how to type
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: two like the real typewriter, you know, like the old typewriter,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: your keyboard on the laptop, the ASDF semi LKG. Learn
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: that because when there's something breaking news or whatever, you're
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: gonna have a little advantage because you can type faster
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: than people that are typing with just their thumbs or
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: one finger, you know. So those are two of the things.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: And try to do as many things as possible. Uh,
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Like I say, I did the news, I did, I
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: did sports, I did I played records, did all of
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. And the more you can do
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: the more valuabil you are to a to a radio
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: station or a TV station, you can step into certain
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: roles and say you want to do something. So U
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: that's the advice I always give.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember my typewriter.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: All well, now I have to admit I only type
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: with two, three or four fingers. You just think of
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: the coordination, purposes and as about it. But that's how
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: I wrote my book.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: It worked.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: It's called you know, it's called winning ugly. I once
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: upon a time I won a trophy for and bowling.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: This is really true, Steve, for most unusual forms. So
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: if you can imagine how I put my book together. Right, So,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: now I got Jake Katy put these three up there. Okay,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: he's got my tinery set for you, Steve, So you
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: got to see this. Good to come to Atlanta one hour,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: John up to Freely you close to Athens. Just saying now,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I keep saying it because you're always going to do
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: a Hawks game and then go watch the UGA game.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Of course I have my friend there. It doesn't if
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: you if you're.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Early get noticed as well, you have peace of mind,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: you're prepared to reflect journalism. I always get the stadium
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: between three to five hours early, because I'm Preparation is
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: something I really believe in. The more I know ahead
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: of time, the game is easy. It's like oh I
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: do on these shows. Once you get on the air,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: it's nothing, right, But once it's a prep work lead
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: you know, so you sound credible all the time. God,
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I got two three four figures. Whatever it did and wouldn't,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't use them all. I don't have the ability
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: to use all these. I have a bad thumb issue,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: but that's for another day. But no, with all due respect,
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: You're right, you've got to be prepared. You're in trouble.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: And one thing that came to mind, do you feel
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: that you have to be a good writer to be
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: a good broadcaster?
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I would say certainly.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: But I think if you can if you can speak
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: it the same way you could write it, I think
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: that's the way the way to go. I mean I
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I yes, to be a good writer is an advantage certainly.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, Well sure, because you got guys like you know,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Mike Wilban and Tony Kornheiser are the two guys that
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: come to mind as well. And I've been doing it
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: for ages, so right, So yeah.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, so that validates I'm so glad to see that
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: we've had an opportunity to cover so much ground because
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people are watching the show
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: and I'll be able to rewatch it and talk about
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: it again, because this is a good show. Not only
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: do we talk about the old time NBA, but and
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: but as we close this thing, would you do you
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: feel that we miss the old NBA or do you
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: like what you're seeing with the new version of it.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: I like both. I do like the new style. I'm
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: not one of those you know, this is the way
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: we did it back in my day. You know. I
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: like the game now. I really think it's it's fun,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: it's up and down, it's it's something that young people
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: can really kind of grasp and you know, to go back.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: You know, the traditional TV radio is kind of going.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: It's all like serious XM on radio. It's on the
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: on the phone. People are watching on the app and uh,
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: you know the days of people sitting down and listening
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: or watching a game for two and a half three hours,
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: I think those days are gone. Uh. And the young
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: people that are watching maybe watching on TV, but they're
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: doing something else on their phone. So that's the that's
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: where we've gone, I think, and it's I think it's
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: been better for young people to watch this. The three
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: pointers are exciting, the game is exciting. I think the
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: young players that we have now are are certainly very exciting.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: And the old guys will tell you they're they're all
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: better athletes than they were back in those days. So
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: I do love the old day too. I mean, there's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: nothing better to me than watch some old games with
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: you know, Bob Coosey and John Halechek and Bill Russell
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. So I like both. But
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not one of those stuck in the past. And
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: you know, I like to move forward. And the young
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: guys keep you young. I mean, they keep me on
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: two and we've got nineteen twenty twenty one year olds
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: on our team.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Well, Jay has a great question, and then we'll give it
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: a Candyambly for a final station break and put in
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: a what's the difference in an athlete transitioning to a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: broadcaster versus a journalist becoming a broadcaster.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: That's a good question.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Well, I think you know, you don't necessarily have to
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: be a journalist to become a broadcaster. I think that's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: they're kind of they're very similar. It's it's helpful to
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: have some journalism in your background, which you know most
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: of us have. But for the athletes, though, it's very difficult.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: I think for them to transition. A lot of them
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: think it's easy, and it's not that easy. I give
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: you an example of Dennis Scott, right, who was big
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: now on NBA TV and TNT and everything. Dennis came
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: and and came to me and and did three years
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: with me off and on, uh you know, in the
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: analyst chair and and I really you know, helped him
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: learn how to do it. And and even when he
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: went into the Georgia Sports Hall of Fame here, he
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: he gave me a little shout out, which made me happy.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: And uh, you know, but those guys really have to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: work at it. They just can't walk in there. And
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: and and I think Tom Brady's fighting it's not as
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: easy as it looks, you know, it's it's it's not
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: as easy. The athletes add a lot, certainly, uh you know,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: because they played the game. They've been there and done that.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: But to become an athlete and a broadcaster, that takes
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: a certain amount of you know, special ability. You know
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Frank Gifford was able to do it. Come from the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: broadcast booth, you know, from the football field, out of
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: the broadcast booth. Pat Summer, all guys like that. They
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: they really they became more than analysts. They became they
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: had their own shows. They they did play by play.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: I mean that that takes somebody really special.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Excellent question, Jay, it really is, right, will Ring Kenny
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Hambling And for one more station break, you get to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: see the book I am. Now you got me thinking
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: I want to get to Atlanta and come up to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: see a Hawks game and be able to sit right
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  Speaker 3: we could do some good stuff as well. So now
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  Speaker 3: you've got that on my list, and here's my travel
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  Speaker 2: I'll go ahead, KADYE get one more station break.
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