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- 0:00H Well, hey everybody, how we all doing today. It's the crypti
- 0:57Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones boy to have another fantastic show today. We're going
- 1:03to be talking about the Pope Luke monster and goat men across America and the
- 1:08world. Actually, uh, but for whatever reason, we have a ton
- 1:14of goat men here in the United States and I'm the perfect person here today
- 1:21in the studio. I am doctor Dennis Carroll. Back. Today we're going
- 1:23to be talking about goatman, the history, the recent reports. We're going
- 1:29to talk about the goat man bridges and the spiritual aspect behind it. Let's
- 1:34just say okay, so y'all know this is going to be a really interesting
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- 3:19Okay, Okay, Well, let's get to our show today. Okay,
- 3:23because I would like to pull up Dennis Carroll. I'm sorry, I would
- 3:28frog in my throat. Hold on, I'm gonna drink. Okay, that
- 3:34just happened out of nowhere. Okay, So let's get into the Pope Lick
- 3:37Monster, the Public Monster. Excuse me, all, I got a call.
- 3:45Okay, I'm back. I sound normal again. The Public Monster is
- 3:50a cryptid believed to live in a train trestle over Pope Lick River in Kentucky.
- 3:57The creature is described as a goat man with lights in dark hair horns,
- 4:01and it carries an axe. It mimics human voices, luring unsuspected unsuspecting
- 4:10victims onto a high trestle, calling them in the voice of a loved one
- 4:15or crying. Okay, now that sounds familiar, right with some other cryptids
- 4:19that we know. Multiple fatalities have occurred over the years from thrill seekers and
- 4:26goat man enthusiasts. The bridge trestle is approximately nine stories high. That's at
- 4:31least ninety feet tall. Okay, it is a rickety eight hundred foot long
- 4:39bridge, you guys. That is really long. It's actively used by Norfolk
- 4:46Southern Railroad and its private property fenced in and posted with signs warning people to
- 4:51stay out. The legend of the Pokeld Monster has been a source of trauma
- 4:57for many victims, families, railroad andmployees. And I'm assuming the whole community
- 5:01in this little town in Kentucky. Many deaths have happened there. And there's
- 5:08people who are thrill seekers that want to go see the goat man and they
- 5:13get out on this bridge, on this train trestle. I'm about to showy
- 5:15all some pictures of it. It's terrifying. I think some people must go
- 5:20at night. They don't know what they're getting into, okay, and it
- 5:24looks really old. So some people that may not be from there don't know
- 5:28that the trains actually go back and forth over this train trestle and they get
- 5:31halfway out there and they can't no matter how fast they run, they can't
- 5:35get off in time, okay, before they get hit by a train.
- 5:39Okay, So to help me talk about this today and have a wonderful discussion,
- 5:43I have my friend doctor Dennis Carol in the studio today. Dennis has
- 5:47over forty years of experience in the paranormal. He is my top resident guest
- 5:54on here to talk about the occult crypto is the UFOs, you name it
- 6:00demonology, and today it's Scopeman. So please help me. Welcome to the
- 6:02show our good friend Dennis Carroll. Heyn all that, good glady be here.
- 6:11You know, the Public Monster is one of my favorites. Absolutely.
- 6:15I have studied it over the year. As a matter of fact, I've
- 6:16been very close to the vicinity of public but never really got to the trestle.
- 6:21I would love to have gotten there. But I want to say something.
- 6:25Do you remember the movie The Lost Boys, the original Lost Boys?
- 6:30You remember that scene? You remember that scene in the movie where they're hanging
- 6:34off the train trestle. Remember that and the trains that had to be inspired
- 6:41by the Public Monster legend. Absolutely, I've always thought that and that would
- 6:46be in a bad situation to get in a little of the train trestle like
- 6:50that. But you know, Jessica, the interesting thing about the Public Monster
- 6:56is it follows the precepts of a lot of legends that go worldwide. These
- 7:00supposed entities that guard bridges and mountain passes and overpasses and bushes like that,
- 7:09rivers and all that. What's going on with that. They're like almost like
- 7:13some kind of ethol type guardians in these places. And the Public Monster is
- 7:18one of the worst. He carries an axe supposedly, by the way,
- 7:24that would have to be very bad. Not only are you going up against
- 7:28the supernatural type entity, but it's carrying a weapon. It's bad, It's
- 7:33very bad. And this is very dangerous out here. I have a few
- 7:39pictures to show to give the audience an idea of how tall this is and
- 7:44how long the train tracks are. Okay, So that is an actual Norfolk
- 7:47Southern train going over this trestle. And this is a shot from above that's
- 7:54really tall, okay. And there's no room for movement on this train trestle.
- 8:00Uh on this train track, there's there's no sides, there's no median.
- 8:03I guess you could call it to stand over to the side. When
- 8:07it comes through. You basically have to jump off and pray that you can
- 8:11hold on for your life to the side of this because you're and most people
- 8:18can't hold on to the side while that train goes by. If it's a
- 8:24very long train, you're in big trouble. Absolutely. So, as I
- 8:33was researching the Public Monster, I noticed something right off the bat that there's
- 8:39a whole lot more uh, story surrounding the Public Monster of people dying on
- 8:45those train tracks than there were about really the Public Monster itself, because there
- 8:50were so many deaths there. Dennis, Well, it's this ability, I
- 8:54think too, Jessica, those here was luring people out there, and there's
- 8:58a lot of talk about this thing connecting and communicating with people's minds in a
- 9:03bad way, uh, sort of hypnotizing them, causing them to want to
- 9:09go out there on these on this trestle or go around with the sinity of
- 9:13where it's supposed to be. It's almost like it has a supernatural power in
- 9:18this location to entice and lure people out there to their doom most of the
- 9:24time. Uh. That's a that's an interesting attribute to this of the scripted
- 9:28as well. Uh. That's a very that's a very h that's a very
- 9:31bad picture there. That's that's the kind of a way I envision he looks
- 9:37probably in real life. Uh. The interesting thing about the goat man and
- 9:43a lot of these goat men, and when I think, when I think
- 9:46about the goat man, anonymou Pan instantly kind of gets into my mind the
- 9:52god Pan. But the goat man looks different than Pan. Pan may have
- 9:56a horn, but he still looks sort of like a stylized human, whereas
- 10:00in the goat man it looks just like a goat, a full grown,
- 10:05full blown goat walking around on his hind legs, like a person like you
- 10:09see there. That is more of the cryptid. I would say, the
- 10:15true goat man looks like more so than the god Pan. Now Pin he
- 10:20had his followers, he had his knouns, and he had his parties out
- 10:24in the woods. He was sort of a part of God. He went,
- 10:26he would like the Ravish women, and he was sort of a portenth
- 10:31of nature itself. That's what God, That's what Pam was all that.
- 10:35But the goat man does not do that. The goat man is more of
- 10:37a threatening kind of a cryptid. It is more of an eule kind of
- 10:43thing. And we do know a very distinct connections of goats and the Satanic
- 10:50the Satanic things about them. We'll get into that in a little while,
- 10:54but we know there's a very distinct connection with the Baphomet and the goat in
- 11:00the Satanic place and the Satanic cults and all that. That's freaky stuff.
- 11:07It is freaky. Well, well, I wanted to kind of go through
- 11:11and show some newspaper clippings about the public monster, just pretty much right off
- 11:16the bat, so that we can get kind of an idea of the enormous
- 11:20nature of the people who have been injured or even died on this bridge.
- 11:28So I mean, this goes way back, okay, way back. People.
- 11:31They say that at least for fifty years, the goat man has been
- 11:35spotted in this area, Okay, an actual goat man with that, and
- 11:39like you had described, you know, there's the pan type of a goat
- 11:41man, and then there's the goat man cryptid goat man okay, which I
- 11:46think they're both kind of cryptied, but the one that's got the full body,
- 11:50you know, the goat face, the goat. Everything's a goat okay,
- 11:54except for the bipedal walking. He's been spotted there. And I say
- 12:00he because I've never heard of a female goat woman, have you, Dennis,
- 12:05which is odd okay, But but he's been spotted there for fifty years,
- 12:11okay. And some people used to say, well, it's only because
- 12:16it's it's like a warning to the kids to keep them away from that train
- 12:18trestle. Okay, but others have said, no, they've actually spotted this
- 12:24thing. Okay, they've actually spotted it. And even back from nineteen eighty
- 12:28six, it's mostly teenagers, Okay. Teenagers and young adults are being they're
- 12:37dying from getting hit by trains. Of course, Norfolk Southern Railway. I
- 12:41have family who worked at Norfolk Southern their entire lives. Okay, My grandfather
- 12:46and my uncle for all their adult lives worked for Norfolk Southern. And they
- 12:52have fences up around this trestle. They know how dangerous this is. They
- 12:56have keep out posted signs. I mean, they have the full ability to
- 13:01sue people who go into that, you know, to go after them for
- 13:03hefty, hefty fines. From what I can remember, they have something I
- 13:07hate to call them, the lawmen, and with Norfolk Southern, and it's
- 13:11their own police force, Dennis, and I think it's federal Okay, So
- 13:18there are families that want to sue Norfolk Southern after their children die there,
- 13:22but Norfolk Southern can actually go after them from what I understand, And you
- 13:28know, it's the bad, bad thing about it, just because people don't
- 13:31realize that you get so far down that railroad trestle in the wrong direction,
- 13:35there's no way you're going to outrun that train. There's no way you're going
- 13:39to be able to get out of it. The only safe place would be
- 13:43at the very end of the trestle and you see the train coming from a
- 13:45long way off, you have chance to do it. Well, you're in
- 13:48a vest You're in almost, I would say, almost like a suicidal position
- 13:52there. Why do these people want to take that risk? I don't know.
- 13:56That's beyond me. But as for suing, yeah, were here's the
- 14:03bad thing about a situation like that. The company's going to say, well,
- 14:07there's no trustpassing. You broke the law to get out there. You
- 14:11should not have been there where someplace you shouldn't have been. You know.
- 14:16I can see the company's point of view on that too, But it's bad.
- 14:20It's very bad all the way around for whoever's involved in it absolutely now.
- 14:26Just a few years ago, a couple years ago. I think this
- 14:30is twenty nineteen. There was a young lady. I think she was around
- 14:33twenty two. This is a Roquel band. Okay. She and her boyfriend,
- 14:37I think her boyfriend, and she and her boyfriend been dating for about
- 14:41a month. And she was kind of a thrill seeker. I can't say
- 14:45I'm not a thrill seeker, Okay. I like to go out and do
- 14:46fun stuff and get scared, and you know, I'm looking for cryptids too,
- 14:52Okay. But she and her boyfriend had gone and look how high that
- 14:56bridge is. Good grief. She and her boyfriend had go on to I
- 15:01think I was Waverley I want to say Waverley Hill, but I think that's
- 15:03I don't know if that's in Kentucky. One of those sanatoriums, okay,
- 15:07one of the sanatoriums that is not too far from here. Okay, one
- 15:11that's been featured on Ghost Adventures. Okay. They went there to go,
- 15:18I don't know, go get scared, Okay, go do some thrill seeking,
- 15:20all right, whatever, go see ghosts and uh. And it wasn't
- 15:24really doing anything for him when they got there, so she was like she
- 15:26told her boyfriend, well, hey, let's go over to this bridge and
- 15:31go see we can see goat man. And so they went, well,
- 15:33they're not from there, Okay, they're not from the area that I think
- 15:35they were from, Ohio. They drove over to this this area where the
- 15:41public monster is, broke through the gate. Okay. I guess they got
- 15:45through the fence. I I can't say I've never you know, crawled through
- 15:48a fence. Okay, I know, I know how that goes, all
- 15:52right, But but I'm not sure that they actually understood how how far across
- 15:56and how high up that bridge was. Okay, because once you go up
- 16:00to it, you actually, I think you access it by going up a
- 16:03hill and there's the bridge connects two hills. Okay, So once you get
- 16:07up to that hill, I don't think that it was dark. I don't
- 16:10think they knew exactly how tall it was off the ground, okay. And
- 16:15I don't think the guy, the boyfriend knew that it was even in use
- 16:18by a railroad company. So they got out there. She went first,
- 16:22I guess, but they got out on this trestle. I think they were
- 16:26like halfway out onto this trestle and they saw line and the train came.
- 16:33They tried to outrun it. He jumped over the side and held on for
- 16:37dear life. And I don't think she made it. I think she got
- 16:40hit by the train. I think that it knocked her off and she fell
- 16:42down and she ended up dying, Okay. And I think that's the most
- 16:45recent death that's happened there. I do believe that was around twenty nineteen,
- 16:51and it was completely tragic, and I think it it really I mean,
- 16:56it affected. It affects everybody affected that young man, and I do believe
- 17:02I think that he got sued if I'm not mistaken potentially about the road.
- 17:07Yeah. I've mentored a lot of groups over the years, Jessica. And
- 17:12that's the number one rule of any kind of paranormal investigation, whatever it be
- 17:17equipped did, whether it be ghosts research, whatever the situation. The number
- 17:21one rule is you never break the law. You never break the law and
- 17:26you and you. Number two is safety is paramount. You always recognize the
- 17:30safety of something like that. And uh, if you violate either one of
- 17:34those two, you do so with your own peril, you know. Oh
- 17:40yeah, oh yeah. I always encourage everybody don't don't break the law.
- 17:44Okay, don't break the law. Go somewhere. That's I mean that that
- 17:48is dangerous. I mean I would I don't know what I do if I
- 17:52found out when my son becomes a teenager and he's driving and gets to go
- 17:55plays, if I found out he did something like that, it would just
- 17:57it would ruin me. I mean, I would be so I mean just
- 18:00just to know that he went and did something like that would be horrible.
- 18:03I can't imagine what my mom thinks about me doing dog maned research and stuff.
- 18:07Okay, so you know, but I'm a grown woman. Okay,
- 18:11but but yeah, that's just it's plain. What is that like Russian Roulette
- 18:15or chicken? Basically with the train, I don't know, It's just not
- 18:21worth it your life. Like I've said over the years, you don't want
- 18:25your investigation to end in the in the er or in the morgue. Definitely
- 18:29not. You know, I would advise people if you're dealing with some type
- 18:34of a supernatural entity supposedly like this as you know, has that ability to
- 18:40lure you or or sort of fool you or trick you into doing you know,
- 18:44like with a crying and all this other stuff. You understand what you're
- 18:48dealing with and what you may face, and be very very careful. You
- 18:53know, when you're facing something like that, you should sort of your vibrations
- 18:57should be notched up a few a few more levels. You should understand what
- 19:03you're facing and be very wary of anything like that. And and but like
- 19:08I said this thing to me, Jess, because especially with the Public Monster,
- 19:12it's almost like it has a very negative, a very strong, powerful,
- 19:18kind of a bad, dark supernatural power attached to it that you draws
- 19:23these people to that place. And and of course it's Tressel going over a
- 19:29gore. Just what it's basically doing. Nine I think it's nine stories.
- 19:33That's what I stept there. That's a long ways up. It's very very
- 19:38high. I mean, I'm I'm kind of scared of heights, okay,
- 19:41So I would never go on that thing ever. And yeah, and trains,
- 19:47you know, growing up with in a trained family. My great grandfather,
- 19:49my greet, my grandfather, and my uncle all work for norfol Southern
- 19:52or Southern Railway back in the day, and so I know the dangers of
- 19:56trains, okay, and how fast they go. So I remember my grandfather,
- 20:03this is this is terrible. Probably shouldn't say that. I'm gonna way
- 20:04and tell everybody. So my grandfather when he was I think it was my
- 20:08grandfather. Maybe it was his dad that saw this. I think it was
- 20:11his dad when he was little. Uh, I think he was a His
- 20:15dad was like an engineer did something in a small town here in Georgia,
- 20:18and and it had snowed, it was icy outside, and one of the
- 20:22conductors or engineers somebody that worked on the train in this small town slid on
- 20:27some ice and fell up underneath the train as it was moving, and it
- 20:33cut his body in half. Okay, cut his body half, and so
- 20:37but he was still alive, Okay. And I remember he didn't have a
- 20:41lot of time to live. So they called his family in to stay their
- 20:45final goodbyes to him. And uh so, I mean it, it's a
- 20:49he talked about that. My grandfather used to tell us that story, okay
- 20:52and uh and it was kind of like one of those warnings. It's like,
- 20:55don't get near the train. Okay, don't get anywhere near the train.
- 20:59This is what happened. And we saw this. That man had to
- 21:02tell all his children and his wife goodbye, you know, in his final
- 21:06moments, because he and he lived. I've helped out in the Morgue.
- 21:11I've helped out in the Morgue a few times over the years, and we
- 21:14did have a person that was brought in one time that was a victim of
- 21:18the train. And it's not good, and that's a very very bad It
- 21:22has been a very bad way to go, absolutely, and I've always been
- 21:26I have been around trains moving through. The matter of fact, from where
- 21:30I'm sitting right now, there's like about a half mile from me as a
- 21:33train, a train rail system that would be very dangerous. You know.
- 21:40There are a lot of accidents associated with trains too, you know, over
- 21:44the years, cars trying to outrace them and train wrecks and all these other
- 21:49things. So it was a dangerous thing, absolutely without doubt and still is.
- 21:55Could not careful with you and the spargators. Thank you, Mari Marine,
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- 22:06are enjoying it today she says, goat for it, goat for it.
- 22:10Okay, got your goat? Okay, speaking of interesting puns like that,
- 22:15Dennis. We hear a lot of people say, we got your goat,
- 22:18and you know when we talk about being the goat the greatest of all time,
- 22:22there's a lot of like acronyms and puns made out of the word goat.
- 22:27What's the history behind some of that, because we were talking about that
- 22:30earlier today. Well, to get your goat thing, I actually be the
- 22:34goats used to be very valuable animals on the farm, you know, along
- 22:40with cows of course, horses and goats, sheep and the goat. To
- 22:45get your goat meant to actually somebody's shielding your goat or actually taking some of
- 22:49your vaduable property away from you. That's where that term comes from. My
- 22:53favorite is escapegoat, which is a biblical thing actually back I think in the
- 22:59days of the Ywish temples, they actually would have a goat represent all of
- 23:04the sins of the people, the bad things of the bad luck, the
- 23:07famines and all that stuff. They was supposedly theorectally put this on the goat
- 23:12and turn this goat loose in the wild. It was like we're sending it
- 23:17out away from this kind of thing, and that's where you get the scapegoat
- 23:21at. And the interesting thing about the goat, though he represents the center,
- 23:26the bad part of the sheep represents the save the good, whereas in
- 23:33the goat. And I think that's one reason why the goat has such a
- 23:37very distinct tie to the Satanic in that respect, the goat and I have
- 23:44seen this and I know you have to me it's represented not just only with
- 23:47the Baphomet, but the goat's head is a representative of the upside down pentagram,
- 23:52you know that you see on a lot of Satanic imagery. Yeah,
- 23:57like that, And he represents actually Satan himself, because Satan is the bad
- 24:06guy. He's the goat, and he represents the evil in our universe.
- 24:12And unfortunately, the poor goat gets stuck with this tag. But goats have
- 24:18been very beneficial animals over the years. You got you got milk, and
- 24:22you can make cheese and goats and milk. But goats were also could pull
- 24:26wagons and pull loads. They also would take care of your garbage too.
- 24:33The goats were very handy to have around. Absolutely, I've been around a
- 24:37lot of goats. I like goes. And I think you remarked one of
- 24:40them that they have some very strange eyes. If you look at the goat's
- 24:44eyes, and I think this is one of the reasons why it gets tagged
- 24:47with a satanic thing. If you look at the goats eyes, they look
- 24:49almost serpentine like the eyes of a snake in a way. You ever notice
- 24:55that they have slits for eyes, And yeah, see if I can pull
- 25:00a picture up at some point today to show you guys their eyes, because
- 25:03they they are. My sister has a goats. She has miniature goats,
- 25:07but they're actually kind of big. They're supposed to be miniature goats, but
- 25:11they got kind of big and they have it's kind of odd when you look
- 25:15at them, because they're they're not slits like a snake. They're kind of
- 25:18like horizontal. But they kind of a weird look to them. They have
- 25:23a very weird satanic kind of a look, and I think that's why they
- 25:26got tagged that way. But still goats. I like goats. I mean
- 25:30I have been around goats a lot and I used to take I used to
- 25:33take my dog and walk him into the area and they had goats in a
- 25:37fence. And the goats are very friendly animals. They would come down to
- 25:41the dog and play with them, and all that goats wouldn't eat, you
- 25:45know. I don't know why they got such a bad reputation on a lot
- 25:48of stuff, but that's the way it wents. Uh, yeah, that's
- 25:51the iyeeeah. The goat, it's kind of weird looking it does if you
- 25:56look at it the slandering way. It does a little bit like a serpentine
- 25:59eye. But I can see why. But another thing is that in Jewish
- 26:06jew on the Claw, you were not supposed to eat clothing hood animals,
- 26:10you know. Uh, and the and the and the goat has a clothing
- 26:14hoof. Do you have you ever seen that movie The Witch? Have you
- 26:18seen that movie in the Witch? Yes? Remember Black Philip, Black Philip
- 26:23the Realm and that he was looking Actually I read about him the other day.
- 26:29He's still alive and they retired him to a farm in North Carolina,
- 26:33and he was he's kind of a little very rambuctious. I think he like
- 26:40I think budded a few people on the movie says, so he was kind
- 26:44of wild. But and there are certain scenes in that in that movie where
- 26:49you look at Black Philip and he's looking back and there's like an intelligence there
- 26:53that is not good. You know. It's kind of like looking almost like
- 27:00a demon or a devil looking kind of a thing too. I can see
- 27:03how to go get some of that, but still he kind of gets a
- 27:07bad rep like the wolves. He kind of gets a bad wi rap a
- 27:10lot of things. Oh yeah, well, you know, there's there's a
- 27:12video that's going around social media that got it got kind of popular a couple
- 27:17of months ago of a it looks like a black colored goat and it's walking
- 27:21on two legs, on its hind legs throughout a village. It looks like
- 27:25a village in either somewhere in South America or maybe it's even in Africa,
- 27:29I think, because my friend Schantil Shanty was talking about it yesterday out of
- 27:33South Africa. So that's creepy. That's not what people really want to see
- 27:37when they're walking down the street. You know, they don't like goats are
- 27:44like any other animal that they can be trained to do things like that.
- 27:47Dogs can be trained to do that. Bad is how trained to do that?
- 27:52The interesting thing here's what disturbs me when they walk around too much on
- 27:56it and do it too Alton Uh, that's disturbing to me. That's unnatural,
- 28:03very unnatural, which is very much like the dog man we've talked about
- 28:06so much. His legs are like that of a dog, the backwards,
- 28:11sunning kind of legs. And anything that has a leg like that, it's
- 28:17naturally not made to walk upright. And when they don't, and when they
- 28:21do that, that's kind of disturbing to see. But they have actually though,
- 28:25and I've seen this just because there have been bears that have had some
- 28:29kind of an injury that would not not allow them to walk on all fours.
- 28:33They would walk around on two legs just as good as you and I
- 28:36could, but they were made to do that out of necessity because of an
- 28:41injury or a mutation or something like that going on with them. But whenever
- 28:47we see things like that, it is disturbing to us because we it has
- 28:52such an unnatural look doing, you know, it's very unnatural. And something
- 28:57else is very unnatural about the public Monster to me, is it lures people
- 29:04out to the bridge, to the train trestle. It lures people out,
- 29:08is what people is the It's the common legend there that it lures people out
- 29:12in a hypnotic state, so it hypnotizes people and it sounds it mimics their
- 29:18loved ones. Okay, this is not the first cryptid or tells of a
- 29:22cryptid that actually does something like that. Okay, we have skin walkers that
- 29:29do stuff like that too. Well, there's an evil, a malice behind
- 29:33this kind of stuff that you see about it. And we've talked about this
- 29:37before often. I've done a lot of extensive research on the conjuring of some
- 29:42of these crypt PIDs, and I have always felt that the public monster was
- 29:48something that somebody conjured up. Let me say this about dark witchcast and I'm
- 29:52going to be doing a show on this Friday night on paranorm one of you.
- 29:56There are three basic forms that you can now what I'm talking about the
- 30:00European type witchcraft and all the skin walkers. Right now, there's three different
- 30:06types of forms. Without being becoming aware of wolf and a tiger and all
- 30:10this other thing that you do and some of that, you can also become
- 30:14something like a black panther. You can become either a large black housecat,
- 30:21or you can take on the form of a goatman. Really okay, yeah,
- 30:27so those are the three distinct ways that you can do that, and
- 30:32of course to be able to do that is where the contrary part comes in.
- 30:37What you're doing is manifesting this out of the mind, and you're using
- 30:41rituals and demonding power to accomplish these things. You have to wonder how many
- 30:48of these crypti is even this even goes in with dog men and perhaps even
- 30:52the Bigfoot as well. They may have been conjured through these means and not
- 30:57just naturally occurring. Because I'm going to say this for all of the people
- 31:03listening out there today. If something can contact then communicate with your mind,
- 31:08especially without using words spoken words, then that is what you're dealing with,
- 31:14is a spiritual entity of some sort. And I think that that covers the
- 31:19public monster. Oh yeah, well, I actually was having a conversation with
- 31:25a good friend last night. We were messaging and he was telling me that,
- 31:29you know, he's a field researcher too, and he was saying that
- 31:33there's an area that he researches and there are people a lot of people at
- 31:36research this area. He said that there's been there there, They've had issues
- 31:40there with people getting up and having like an uncontrollable urge to walk into the
- 31:45forest, okay, as though something is calling them there and they can't stop
- 31:49themselves from going, like they've literally had to stop people from from moving forward.
- 31:53And a lot of that. Yeah, you have a lot a lot
- 32:00of that too, folklore, Joseph, because you go to look at the
- 32:02will of the whist and that theres do in Ireland, These things that lure
- 32:07you away from the from the beaten path to do what they're going to do
- 32:10to you, or to have you come to a bad end some way,
- 32:15whatever way it may be. Uh, these are not good things, of
- 32:17course. This is evil, very evil in that respect, and down night,
- 32:22Satanic or devils or whatever name you want to put on it. Uh,
- 32:27this is a power. This being has exulted a supernatural type power.
- 32:31And these beings, these countured things are supposed to have something like that.
- 32:37Definitely that kind of a power. Uh, what you're dealing with. If
- 32:40something like that can affect your mind to that extent, that is bad stuff.
- 32:49It is. Well, you know a lot of these cryptoids are telepathic,
- 32:52and some of the ones that I've encountered have been telepathic, which is
- 32:57a little bit different, I guess because telepathy and then tipity is mind control
- 33:01in a way, okay, just a form of communication, and we're all
- 33:05we're all capable of doing it. But when you're able to control people through
- 33:09mind techniques okay, and energies, that's that is a whole that's a different
- 33:15level. Okay, it's a different level. And you come in putting your
- 33:22thoughts over somebody else's thoughts that controls them. That is a form of possession,
- 33:28is it not? You know, I mean, that's the way you
- 33:30got to look at it. And when anything ever, I won't say this,
- 33:32and this is always a warning. I've getten a lot of people.
- 33:35Anything that tries to communicate with you that way or tries to establish that kind
- 33:40of a communication with you, be very very very very careful because most of
- 33:46the time these are bad actors. These are bad guys. They're up to
- 33:50no good somehow or now they're in that respect, So be very careful.
- 33:53If something starts communicating with you like that, you know, you would handle
- 33:59it like you would, right or something you know, what could have happened
- 34:02to you? Possession? That's right, that's right. Well, there have
- 34:07been times when I've been out in the woods in the field doing research and
- 34:10I felt like I hit an energetic brick wall. And I've even been zapped
- 34:15by things like Bigfoot, okay, and uh, where it's an energetic kind
- 34:21of thing, okay, and uh, you know when it's happening, Okay,
- 34:24you know there's something off. And I didn't feel like I was being
- 34:28controlled, but in a way I kind of was. Because I didn't want
- 34:30to go past that energetic brick wall. Something told me not to. My
- 34:35gut instinct kicked in and said don't move, don't go. And uh now
- 34:39was that me or was that them? Or was it both? Okay?
- 34:44I think it was both being able to put out something that they call it
- 34:47infrasound, Okay, like putting out infrasound, Uh, making you feel nervous,
- 34:52making you feel fear, making you feel like you don't want to keep
- 34:54going forward. Okay. Uh. That is something that Bigfoot is definitely capable
- 34:59of, probably dog men, and I would assume he's goat men as well.
- 35:05And something that can exert that type of influence is definitely spiritual. In
- 35:08my book, it has a spirit to it. It has a spiritual side
- 35:13to it. And whenever you encounter something like that, like I say,
- 35:16all bets are off, especially if something is trying to coherse you into certain
- 35:22ways. That's not good. That goes against the laws of every nature law
- 35:27that you could think of when it comes to that. That's violating someone's personal
- 35:31space and their privacy when you start getting in their mind and start doing stuff
- 35:37like that. I have seen that happen, and like I say, that
- 35:40is where actual possession begins on certain things like that. I'm a friend.
- 35:45I'll tell you a quick story. I had a friend who actually went out
- 35:50and this was in England. It was a part of England where he was
- 35:53at that there were had been reports or the stuff thing seen in those woods
- 35:58or that more land that he was at. He actually spent a few days
- 36:01either in a tent and he did an experiment where he's kind of a mind
- 36:07ritual experiment where he tried to manifest this monster I think it was the Dartmoor
- 36:12monster or something like that. And uh, he tried it unsuccessfully. And
- 36:16here's the weird part. Just a few days after he left, someone was
- 36:21malled very badly there by something that appeared to be some type of an animal
- 36:25that that's not native to England. Uh. They shouldn't have been there.
- 36:31And I just wonder if his experiment may have succeeded and he didn't know it.
- 36:37You have to be very careful what you what you comment, what you
- 36:40what you conjure is basically, conjuring is a form of summoning or calling for
- 36:47something. You know. You know in the movie Constantine as an exorcist,
- 36:52you know, he has the tattoos on these on his arms, you know,
- 36:55and then when you put them together, it has a magic symbol.
- 36:59And all I say, you know, he says, I command you into
- 37:01the light. You know. That is summoning. That is summoning, That
- 37:07is conjuring, and conjuring usually is not a good thing. Oh gosh.
- 37:13Okay, So I have a story that I am going to tell. Okay,
- 37:17I'm going to tell this is a personal encounter, something that happened that
- 37:22I remote you for someone. I was given some coordinates of a property because
- 37:25something had happened to somebody that I know, and uh, and he had
- 37:29been attacked in his tent one night while he and another another friend of mine
- 37:34were out there doing some big footing. And uh, well, I want
- 37:37to I want to go back a little bit rewind because uh, the the
- 37:43infra sound and things like that. You know that that happens because we are
- 37:46in their territory, okay, and we've we've kind of gone into their domain,
- 37:50and so they're trying to push back on us to keep us out,
- 37:52Okay. And I think this is also that some of the case with a
- 37:55lot of the story that I'm about to tell you, because I think I
- 38:00think that he's made a video about this and put it out about a year
- 38:02ago. I think, but I'm not sure, so I'm gonna I'm going
- 38:05to keep the names out of this, Okay. But I had I had
- 38:07a friend who was going through going through some things. He was a little
- 38:13depressed and stuff, and and it all kind of stemmed from I guess I
- 38:16think he had watched a movie. Okay, there was a documentary that he
- 38:21had watched where the audience kind of unsuspectingly was uh it was a movie premiere,
- 38:28it was live. Uh, the audience experienced a ritual being done in
- 38:32this movie to conjure a cryptid. Okay. I didn't know any details about
- 38:37any of this. I wasn't there, Okay, but apparently I would assume
- 38:43they would have been conjuring a bigfoot, but I believe it was Pan.
- 38:46They were conjuring Pan okay in this movie, and the audience inadvertently became part
- 38:53of that ritual. Apparently okay and uh. And so this this gentleman and
- 38:58another gentleman were out do some camping on some private property and they one of
- 39:04them went to he turned in for the night, and they were hearing noises.
- 39:07The other guy was hearing a bunch of noises and stuff. And this
- 39:13one gentleman had fallen asleep, I think, and and all of a sudden
- 39:15he was violently shaken awake and basically levitated in the air. And like all
- 39:21this stuff happened where he got attacked, I mean, he was being attacked
- 39:23and he he had he thought that he had had a possible attempted alien abduction
- 39:30going on, okay, and so so he had given me the coordinates to
- 39:35this when when all this happened, it was very traumatic for him. Whatever
- 39:38happened, it was really bad. And so I was given the coordinates of
- 39:42this property and uh, and the date and the look, you know,
- 39:45the time that this happened. I remote viewed it and my data said Pan.
- 39:50It literally said Pan. On the in the data, and h and
- 39:53I had written down like furry legs and fur and all this kind of stuff,
- 39:57and it was just all this stuff was leading up to some kind of
- 40:00character, okay. And and when I sent him all this data, he
- 40:05was pretty much floored because he thought he had had some kind of alien abduction
- 40:08and it made him remember, oh my gosh, I can just watch that
- 40:12movie where they were conjuring Pan, and my life started to go down the
- 40:16drain. I'm not going to say down the drain drain, okay, but
- 40:19it was things started going south in his life and and it kind of escalated
- 40:24with him being attacked by what my data suggested was Pan. Okay, now
- 40:30that this remote viewing, so I don't I don't know what any of this
- 40:32stuff is, but it changed the trajectory of what he was doing. I
- 40:37don't even think he does research anymore, Okay, not not kryptis because this
- 40:42was actually conjured and it was conjured into his life. Dennis, mhm,
- 40:49he's okay to do. Well, you know something, Jessica's sitting there listening
- 40:52to you a story. Then you got to remember one thing about rituals,
- 40:58even watching a ritual become a participant. That's the bad thing about it.
- 41:04And uh, you know I might have told you know, remember me telling
- 41:07you about how that time I snuck in on an actual black mass. I
- 41:10won't go into all details on me, but I was there for a lot
- 41:14of their rituals. I didn't like it. I didn't participate in their rituals.
- 41:17Matter of fact, I had to leave about halfway because they were getting
- 41:22to the sacrificial part. I didn't want to know if they were sacrificing people
- 41:24or goats or whatever the situation was. But even just being there had a
- 41:31great effect upon me, and I would advise people not to do that,
- 41:36because even watching these things is participating to a certain degree, and you have
- 41:42to be very very careful spiritually how you deal with these things. That's why
- 41:46I tell people some of these certain movies that are out there are downright satanic
- 41:52in that respect. Uh. And a lot of these alien inductions that we
- 41:57hear about. Look at some of the reports on its very ritualistic kind of
- 42:00stuff that's going on. What is the basis for a lot of this.
- 42:06That's like when I looked at the public Monster, and I always look at
- 42:09something like that I always want to go to its origin, what started that?
- 42:15Where did it come from? And I found evidence that there was witchcraft
- 42:19in that vicinity of public the Pobelic River is actually where a lot of that
- 42:23too at last, and that there were and right now where I'm sitting today,
- 42:28and I can tell you this without a doubt, Jessica, there are
- 42:31three operating covens around me and two voodoo sects in just this little small area.
- 42:37Okay, what's in a bigger area? What's in Atlanta? My god?
- 42:43We all know, you know what a lot of this stuff that's going
- 42:46on. But let me say this, we have to be very very careful
- 42:50with what's what's happening in the world around us today because things have been amped
- 42:54up in these last few years to the degree that it's just downright aren't and
- 43:00dangerous to the knife degree it is very dangerous now, very of fifty one.
- 43:07What's up? One? Ito? Juanito has an interesting comment because I
- 43:09was actually going to bring this up today in regards to another goat Man Bridge.
- 43:14Okay, because one of my favorite ghost shows, I know, I
- 43:17always say it's my favorite ghost show is was Ghost Adventures. Okay, La
- 43:21Ghost Adventures. Haven't watched it. The last one I watched was their Skinwalker
- 43:24episode. Hey, that was a good one. So I don't watch it
- 43:28often. But one says Ghost Adventures did a live seance ten years ago during
- 43:34Halloween and people on Twitter started getting sick, and the people who were watching
- 43:37with me got sick and went to bed. Now, that's actually why I
- 43:42stopped watching Ghost of Adventures, Okay, because they were doing rituals on air,
- 43:47and they're airing them for the entire masses the general public. They have
- 43:52a huge platform with probably a million millions of people watching, okay, and
- 43:58they started doing things like this goat Man's Bridge. This was actually one of
- 44:01the one of the reasons that I quit watching was because they started doing rituals
- 44:07and reading rituals at this goat Man's Bridge in Texas. Okay, this is
- 44:12the actual bridge right here, Dennis. Yeah, that's in Denton, Texas.
- 44:19They were talking about how Satanists go and do rituals underneath this bridge.
- 44:25Okay, so they're actually doing Satanic rituals here. And so what did the
- 44:30Ghost Adventures crew do. They took out a book of spills and rituals,
- 44:35and one of the guys started doing incantations. So guess what I did.
- 44:39I muted the television and I ended up turning it off because he was putting
- 44:45those incantations into my home, therefore making my television a portal and opening up
- 44:52my home to whatever they're trying to open up, is what I felt.
- 44:55Well, let me tell you this, Jessica. And whenever you do rituals,
- 45:00you do conjuring. Well, we were talking about earlier and summoning force
- 45:04something. If you summon for something, that's something that's going to attach to
- 45:07you with claws of steel. Okay. That's just the way this kind of
- 45:12the spiritual thing works. And when if you're even watching rituals, you are
- 45:16participating because you are being influenced by a share of power. These things have
- 45:22a power about them, okay, and it's a dark, residual type power
- 45:28that lasts. And that's the thing about the ritual. That's the power of
- 45:32the ritual itself. Look up the word in the dictionary. That's what it
- 45:37defines it as. It's a share of power, a share of force that
- 45:43goes around these things. And it's not good to even watch these things because
- 45:47I can say it's participating in it. That's what it basically is. You're
- 45:51becoming part of the ritual and your opening up yourself up to possible attachment by
- 45:57these things. And like I say, they attach, she would steals a
- 46:01claw, steals steel claws that they will not turn you loose, want to
- 46:06get a hold of you. That's true. Okay, Bernard lives not too
- 46:09far from there, Hey, Bernard, Okay, I want to give a
- 46:13little bit of history behind the Okay, I know we're talking about the public
- 46:15monster, but this I wanted to kind of show the pattern of the different
- 46:20goatmen across the United States. And let me tell y'all, Texas has a
- 46:23lot of goatmen, Okay, a lot of goatman. There's at least five,
- 46:27okay that I found. But this is the story behind this goat man
- 46:30bridge is very tragic. It's very sad. There was a there was a
- 46:36gentleman farmer. He was an African American man. He was a very successful
- 46:39goat farmer. Okay, that lived there. This is the story behind it.
- 46:44This built was the bridge was actually built in eighteen eighty four. It's
- 46:46the oldest of its kind in Ditton County, and the legend has it that
- 46:53the goat, the goat farmer had put up a sign there. Okay,
- 46:57he put up a sign and it said this way to the goat. Okay.
- 47:00Around there, apparently there was a there's a white supremacist group, y'all
- 47:07know what I'm talking about. That that was I don't know, they erereakan
- 47:12havoc Okay, during this time in history, and they got upset about him
- 47:16putting that sign up there, and they went and they found him. They
- 47:20actually brought him to that bridge, according to legend. I don't know about
- 47:23if this is his. I think it's historically correct, okay, because I
- 47:27found a lot of articles on this. But he was hanged there underneath that
- 47:31bridge. Okay. Well, when when the people who did it came back
- 47:37to see his body, the body was gone. Okay, his body was
- 47:40gone. It wasn't there. Now. The lore says that this man,
- 47:45his name was mister Washburn. Washburn haunts the old Altam Bridge as a half
- 47:51goat, half man creature, kidnapping those foolish enough to summon him with three
- 47:55knocks on the bridge's frame. Okay. Now that that's the story behind this
- 48:00goat man's bridge. Okay, And to this day, Satanic rituals are done
- 48:06under this bridge to summon the goat. And you know an interesting thing,
- 48:12Josepha, wherever these dark things are done, they seem to have a power
- 48:15in itself that draw people there that want to do more of it, or
- 48:20that are brought there for that purpose. I'll see that happening a lot.
- 48:24And I when you know, are you familiar with a movie called The Late
- 48:28Night with the Devil? No? No like that? Well this is I
- 48:37haven't seen it, but I know a little bit about it. I mean
- 48:40I saw I'll set rid of a view on it. But it's supposed to
- 48:43be like it took place with a late night show one night for Halloween,
- 48:47and they brought you They brought this this young girl on I think, and
- 48:52she was actually possessed by demon. But anyway, the interesting thing about this
- 48:55that other people that were watching this supposedly got bossessed because of it too,
- 49:00and all that. It's called Late Night with the Devil. But basically when
- 49:05I saw that, I said, ah, it's just like doing the ritual,
- 49:08you know. And that's why I would not really want to watch this
- 49:13movie, because you're participating in something like that, especially a ritual for possession.
- 49:20That's not good no matter which way you look at it. And I
- 49:23think a lot of these goat men, and since this is sort of prevalent,
- 49:28not just in this country, but all over the world, different places
- 49:30in all the world. Look at Billy Billy goat gruff. Remember that story
- 49:35Billy goat Grusse that lived down the bridge, you know all that, all
- 49:38this stuff, it has a distinct and very strong connection to dark witchcraft.
- 49:45Absolutely in my vote, that's the way I look at it. There's an
- 49:50origin in this universe for everything, Jessica, and we always have to look
- 49:54towards the origin. What started something, How did it begin? Why is
- 50:00it there that gives us the keys we need to unlock the mysteries of the
- 50:06things that we look at, So always look for the origin. And I
- 50:08think a lot of the origin of these things is definitely conjured. It is
- 50:15conjured. It is Actually we have a Cryptoville in the chat today, Hey,
- 50:20Mark, he and I did a show together about conjuring cryptids, and
- 50:23uh, there's it's just it's not a smart idea in my opinion. Okay,
- 50:29to go out and conjure cryptids, but it seems like that's the case
- 50:34for Satanna rituals, especially to go out and conjure deep, dark, demonic
- 50:39entities and things like these goat men. Now, now are we are we
- 50:44saying that most goat men? Do you do you think if there's a goat
- 50:46man at a bridge, do you think that it's dark or could they could
- 50:50they be benevolent? What do you think? Dennis? I think it has
- 50:54at my level inside to it, absolutely level and benevolent. I think it's
- 51:00malevolent because a lot of it has a dark energy to it and has that
- 51:06dark negativity to it. And here's the interesting thing, Like I said before,
- 51:09bridges actually have a mystical connection to them. They're like they're like portals
- 51:16in a way, okay, and that respect, you're going from point A
- 51:21to point B, but you got to use the bridge to go there.
- 51:23It's like a doorway. That's what it basically is a doorway a lot of
- 51:28times. And I think a lot of these entities, like the crossroads or
- 51:31the bridge, or the mountain passes or whatever may be, these are entrances
- 51:37and doorways that these entities use for their certain purposes. And I think whenever
- 51:44you're around locations like that, you're definitely going to run into something out of
- 51:49the ordinary. Oh yeah, Peter Palmer, He says, I grew up
- 51:52right down the road from the polk Lick Trestle just outside of Jeffersontown. Oh
- 51:58my gosh, wow. You know, from what I was reading, it
- 52:01seems as though the communities there are pretty traumatized by all of the deaths of
- 52:08all these teenagers and young young adults that are going out there and passing away
- 52:14and stuff. But I don't know, Peter, have you now? I
- 52:16saw I also saw his comment saying that they have a public monster festival.
- 52:21Now I think it was the first one this Yeah, so that would that
- 52:25would be interesting. And I was watching something yesterday that there are some gentlemen
- 52:30saying that they had suggested that to keep all the kids and everybody away from
- 52:37breaking into that fence and getting up on that trestle, to actually put some
- 52:39sort of a statue up out in the woods, away from away from the
- 52:45danger. Put it in the woods, so it'd be like an attraction to
- 52:47go kind of lure everybody away from the danger and have something to go take
- 52:52pictures and do their EVPs and their ghost hunting and whatever. They're going to
- 52:55do go go conjure over there, okay from the danger And I think I
- 53:01think I've heard there have been meetings the Chamber of Commerces, you know,
- 53:07like what can we do a tourism if we got a monster, we can
- 53:09get to use that way. I think that, you know, there's a
- 53:14lot of tourism stuff involved in that. But if I if I live,
- 53:17you know, around there, unless they definitely stay away from the trustle do
- 53:22not get on the dress sole, don't do that. But the festival,
- 53:25I'm sure is just to bring in more tourism and help the economy a little
- 53:30bit. They do the same thing with the Mossman and Point Pleasant. I've
- 53:34been there and they do it very successfully too, by the way. So
- 53:38I think it's a it's a chamber of commerce thing, you know. But
- 53:43uh uh, if you've got a local you got a local legend, you
- 53:49got a local monster, you know, why not use it? I mean,
- 53:52I embrace it, embrace it. If you have a local cryptid,
- 53:57Uh, it's better to embrace it and monetize off of it. For a
- 54:00small town like Lizard Band, like you're you live out in South Carolina,
- 54:02right and you guys have the Bishopville Lizard Band. They have a festival every
- 54:07year. I think it's a wonderful thing to have a conference and a festival
- 54:13off of that. Uh Is was here, but but I would. Okay,
- 54:17So this is an interesting comment to Eric. I agree with you on
- 54:21this, Okay, Eric says, or Aaron, sorry, Aaron. Aaron
- 54:23says. I feel like I alternate between there are not as many Satanists as
- 54:28people claim, and then holy crap, there are so many Satanists, okay,
- 54:31and uh and if you turn on the television and you're watching videos's to
- 54:37say, music concerts and stuff too. There's a whole lot of symbology in
- 54:43our pop stars right now, Okay. And you and I have talked about
- 54:46this before, a lot of Satanic rituals being done on stage and stuff.
- 54:52And I don't think it's as prevalent as we I think it is prevalent in
- 54:54the media, but I think in everyday lives there's not that many. There's
- 54:59not a whole lot of that going on, in my opinion, but I
- 55:00don't know them. Look at this. Look at it this way, Jessica.
- 55:07The pop stars are utilizing that they're being used for that because look at
- 55:10all the Swifties out there, thousands and thousands of them watching this. Look
- 55:15at the influence this lady has over these people. This is a perfect Satanic
- 55:22tool, if you want to look at it that way, a very perfect
- 55:24way to influence populations, to get them to do what you want to do.
- 55:30I mean, how could they pass up such a great opportunity. They're
- 55:34not going to and they're going to use that. They're going to utilize it
- 55:37whichever way possible. And look at the many different pop bands over the years,
- 55:43the rock bands that have used the satanic imagery and all that. They
- 55:46made it cool, you know, the end thing to be the end thing
- 55:51to do. But look at the root cause of all of this. You
- 55:54know, somebody somewhere in the various regions who's the public are pr man Robbie
- 56:00is laughing about this because they've got the perfect media to use. But if
- 56:07you're on the stage performing listen to this what I said earlier that goes into
- 56:12this. If you're on the stage performing a ritual, everybody in the audience
- 56:16is also participating in the ritual with you. Look at how many thousands upon
- 56:23thousands can be affected by this millions. That's what they're after. Yeah,
- 56:31it's millions. And it's first of all, it's making it cool to practice
- 56:36witchcraft and stuff, and it's also making it cool to you know, I
- 56:42don't know, just whatever they're doing, it makes it cool. It's not
- 56:45cool. It's really not cool. And I feel uncomfortable whenever something like that
- 56:51comes on the screen. Even in the music. I mean back in the
- 56:54what is that the Satanic Panic back in the nineteen eighties, I remember that,
- 56:59okay, And I remember I remember like they said, you could play
- 57:02a record backwards, you could would have different you know, messages in it,
- 57:07and they still do that. It's called I want to say, backtracking
- 57:09or back something. I can't remember. Somebody the audience will know. But
- 57:13you you play music backwards and it has your your subconscious mind picks that up.
- 57:19Okay, just like, uh, what is that? Like led Zeppelin
- 57:22and stuff like, I mean, it's all sorts of records, all sorts
- 57:24of music, but it's like Satan's a Satan Satan like over and over again
- 57:29and stuff. And Beyonces music has it? I heard it Beyonce Okay,
- 57:34But back masking that's it. Thank you. Cryptoville yeah, yeah, well,
- 57:40yeah, I think it's kind of a lot of the back masking was
- 57:45sort of like, you know, a lot of imagery we see today,
- 57:49you read a lot into it that might not really been there sometimes, but
- 57:52uh uh, some of it it became that it became sort of like,
- 57:58hey, we need to do this kind of thing. It on our records.
- 58:00So if people are looking for this, you know, uh that that
- 58:04started that way. Here's the interesting thing I'll saying here listening to what you
- 58:07were saying, Joseica, and I'm thinking, you know, once upon a
- 58:09time, this stuff was in the back rooms. It was hidden, and
- 58:15they practiced this stuff out of sight. Now it's in the it's in the
- 58:19open and in the public because, like I say, what a great opportunity
- 58:22for them to expand their spirit fear of influence. Yeah, absolutely, oh
- 58:30yeah, they're casting spells. Thank you, Brown Dwarf. There's music producers
- 58:34who have talked about casting spells into records. You know, I came across
- 58:38some liquid deaths. Okay, y'all know what liquid death is, Dennis,
- 58:42are you familiar with that. It's a it's basically water in a can.
- 58:46Okay, but that's the name liquid death. Now, I have seen videos
- 58:52of a witch, a scholar witch. She's a witch, and they had
- 58:57her in the warehouse of the liquid death facility, casting spells and putting demons
- 59:01in the water. Okay, so you've got you've got holy water sands the
- 59:09reason you have on holy water Okay. Uh, that's the way they can
- 59:14go. Uh. This is just the opposite of everything that's good and wholesome
- 59:19and nice. Okay, that's just the opposite of it. Every and and
- 59:22in witchcraft, especially dark witchcraft, uh and Satanism, everything is reversed.
- 59:29They say the Lord's prayer backwards, the crosses are upside down and backwards.
- 59:36All of this is a symbolism. You must understand. Uh. When they
- 59:39instead of the couple of sacrament they drink human urine and blood. The list
- 59:49goes on and all. It's just backwards and perverted and turned around. That's
- 59:52just the way it operates. So the opposite of good is evil, but
- 59:57they want to turn it into saying that he is good. That's the way
- 1:00:01they want to reverse it. That's the way they operate that way, and
- 1:00:06that's an insidious way they go about it. But you know, we have
- 1:00:08to be very careful and like we've talked about this many times before, just
- 1:00:12going on your other shows, what goes in the gates of your soul,
- 1:00:17watch them very closely, whatever they may be, whether it be sounds or
- 1:00:22sights, or drink whatever you drink, and food you eat, whatever you
- 1:00:25consume, however you consume it, thoughts, whatever it may be. Be
- 1:00:30very careful of what you let in because there are forces out there. And
- 1:00:36I can tell you this without a doubt because I have met them face to
- 1:00:38face. I have actually physically fought them. Okay, they are real,
- 1:00:45just as real as you and I sitting here today. You better not play
- 1:00:49with these. If you play around with a poison snakes, sooner or later
- 1:00:52you will get bitten. That's just the way that goes. Oh yeah,
- 1:00:58oh yes, John and cocoa. Hello. John Fortman says water is very
- 1:01:04susceptible frequency and to frequency and energy. Okay, this is the demon version
- 1:01:08of the zombie virus carried in the water. Water is a great conductor.
- 1:01:15Water is a great conductor. Yeah. Uh, you know, look at
- 1:01:19baptism. What this baptism we use water. Water is a great media.
- 1:01:24Water has always Water is life. It symbolizes life, and if you corrupt
- 1:01:29it, then your corrupting life is that way? Will that not be the
- 1:01:32way evil would like to look at it? Definitely? Uh? And you
- 1:01:37know water to me, someone can symbolize eternity as well, something that lasts
- 1:01:44forever, goes on and on and on. Uh. You have a lot
- 1:01:46of very spiritual symbolism and stuff like that, whether it be good for or
- 1:01:52bad. Yeah, for sure. I mean there's a lot of logos of
- 1:01:58companies. I know Marine had mentioned and Starbucks. You know, that's that's
- 1:02:00an interesting logo. Actually, if you look into the history behind that,
- 1:02:05what that is looks like I thought it was a mermaid okay, but but
- 1:02:08it's kind of I think I have a little more sinister meaning and so and
- 1:02:12that's something that so many people are drinking. Okay, So you put a
- 1:02:15symbol on something that everybody is ingesting. It is a It is a subtle
- 1:02:22influence, Jessica. It is a brainwashing, That's what it basically is.
- 1:02:25And what they're trying to set us up to do with all this symbolism and
- 1:02:29all this products, the products, the rituals, the dances, the songs,
- 1:02:35whatever the situation may be, what they're setting it's up for. It's
- 1:02:38trying to reverse that, to get us to believe that good is evil and
- 1:02:43evil is good. That's what it all comes down to. That's the major
- 1:02:45play behind that, and that's what these things are putting forth in that way
- 1:02:51respect, it's a great pr public relations thing, okay. And they're for
- 1:02:55them. They're good trying to get us brainwashed into there of a leaf system.
- 1:03:01Yes, absolutely, I have something that I want to talk about,
- 1:03:07but I'm hesitant to bring this up because when I was a kid, I
- 1:03:13mean, I might as well talk about it. I even have a picture
- 1:03:15of show. Okay, So I'm gonna let me take this comment down.
- 1:03:17Okay. So when I was a kid at a dentist I did. I
- 1:03:22was a dancer, Okay. I was dancing my whole life. I did
- 1:03:24tap in ballet and jazz and all that stuff. Okay. And we would
- 1:03:28dance at our small town at our events, and we would we would often
- 1:03:34use the Masonic Lodge as a dressing room. Okay. And uh, and
- 1:03:40plays don't come at me if you guys are Masons, I don't know.
- 1:03:43I have nothing against it. Okay, it's fine. But when I was
- 1:03:46in there, we were doing like costume changes. I remember it being really
- 1:03:51hot and I was looking for some air conditioning. I was looking for some
- 1:03:54relief. I had gone to the bathroom and was running cold water over my
- 1:03:58wrist and splashed in it. I had makeup on, so I didn't want
- 1:04:00to get my makeup messed up. And but I was. I was trying
- 1:04:03to find some coolness, like some ac And so I opened up a door
- 1:04:10that I shouldn't have opened. Okay, I probably shouldn't open it, and
- 1:04:13uh, and I found that I was. I was looking up goat men
- 1:04:15last night, you know, I was doing my research and I saw this.
- 1:04:18And this is exactly what I saw in this lot. Okay. When
- 1:04:21I open up the door, it was in a closet and I saw this,
- 1:04:28I know, right and so, but but this was actually a picture
- 1:04:32talking about it's a Satanic ritual. Okay. So I just thought it was
- 1:04:38interesting. It's just something to bring up. I please don't come at me,
- 1:04:41y'all, okay, Uh, But I but that's what I saw when
- 1:04:43I was a kid. It was that exact same goat head. Uh.
- 1:04:46And I and it kind of didn't terrify me. But I was so confused.
- 1:04:50It's like, why does this do it? In here? These grown
- 1:04:53men dress up for Halloween. That's what I thought, So a note,
- 1:04:59Okay, I think, without a doubt, just for you, you were
- 1:05:02meant to see that. Okay. I think a lot of times we are
- 1:05:06meant to have experiences that educate us that way spiritually, especially sometimes. And
- 1:05:15let me say this about the Masonic Lodge and all this thing and the others
- 1:05:18so called secret societies out there, why are they secret? Why they call
- 1:05:25secret societies? I'm not going to get in into the day because that's the
- 1:05:27show for another time. But but everything that you see in this world is
- 1:05:31not what often it appears to be. We must remember that things are not
- 1:05:38always what they seem to be, and we don't the worst thing about it
- 1:05:44all. We don't want to get fooled, and we don't want to get
- 1:05:47taken to the cleaners, as they used to say. We don't want the
- 1:05:50wool pull over our eyes. The use of few metaphors. We need to
- 1:05:56watch out for that, definitely, because these things are up to no good
- 1:06:00and they are the enemies of everything. I mean, I hate to sound
- 1:06:03metal dramatic, but it's true. They are the enemies of everything we love
- 1:06:09and hold most dear. If we only realized that, and we need to
- 1:06:13be on guard against a lot of these things, no matter what they may
- 1:06:16be. In that respect, we do, John Coco, I saw a
- 1:06:23prop costume. That's what I saw. It was an actual It looked exactly
- 1:06:27like what I showed you. Okay, it's a batho met, that's what
- 1:06:30it's called. It is an idol, a batho met. It was a
- 1:06:32bapho met. Okay. There was a robe and there was a tall mask,
- 1:06:39I guess you could say. And I literally thought, wired, it's
- 1:06:43gotta be for Halloween. But but inherently I knew it was for a ritual.
- 1:06:46I knew it when I was a kid. I mean I was just
- 1:06:48a kid and h and saw that, and I always kept that in.
- 1:06:51I didn't really I didn't talk about it because I wasn't supposed to be wandering
- 1:06:55around. Okay, that was my bad. But like like you said,
- 1:06:59Dennis, I was meant to see that. Here we are talking about it.
- 1:07:00I'm you know, I'm not gonna tell how many years later. It's
- 1:07:03a lot of years later. And that's something that I kept in. But
- 1:07:06I had that experience, so that I could be more understanding of what we're
- 1:07:10talking about today and uh and the implications of it and the root behind I'm
- 1:07:16not saying there's a root. I'm not saying that little lodge there's a root
- 1:07:19behind any of this stuff. But it's symbolic, Okay, symbolic. I
- 1:07:27don't know. Surely they weren't conjuring pan or they I don't know, maybe
- 1:07:33who knows, I don't know. What you know, they're the thought behind
- 1:07:38a lot of that, Jessica, And I'm gonna get into that today either
- 1:07:41that some of these things like pan uh Medusa and some of these other things.
- 1:07:45So I actually representations of the demonic. A lot of demonologists believe that
- 1:07:50these ancient gods were actually demons. They're mascrated as gods. Of course,
- 1:07:56demons are definitely, and I met a few in my time. Our egomaniacs.
- 1:08:00They want to be worshiped. They think they are a little I call
- 1:08:03them ten penny gods. Uh, that's what they think they are. And
- 1:08:08they're they're they're caught up on that. They love that worship thing. You
- 1:08:11know, absolutely, it gives them more power, It's what it does.
- 1:08:15The more acknowledgement you give them, the more powerful they become. That's what
- 1:08:18they exist on. And they have a lot of symbolism. It's not just
- 1:08:23it's not just the goat. It can be the owls. Owls are a
- 1:08:26symbolism of of Hecate and uh and the alp, the goddess of the wisdom
- 1:08:32and all this. Uh. They they play in a lot of rituals.
- 1:08:36It's not there are different types of animals. The wolf, of course.
- 1:08:41Uh. The list goes on and on, the raven. The list is
- 1:08:44on and on and on. And you see this spop up with a skinwalkers
- 1:08:47thing too. As a matter of fact, it's the symbolism of these animals.
- 1:08:50There's a lot of symbolism going on here. And that's why I said
- 1:08:55we need to pay attention to symbolism, because it's a secret language. Absolutely
- 1:09:00it is. It is now. I saw Mark Marco's a Scottish ripe Mason.
- 1:09:05Listen, A lot of people that I know are Freemasons, and I
- 1:09:10got a family who's pretty high up in the Freemasons as well. Okay,
- 1:09:14on one side of my family. So you know, I was only talking
- 1:09:18about my observation from what happened that one day. So you know, Freemasons
- 1:09:24go way back, okay, And that's a whole other rabbit hole. I
- 1:09:27don't want to go down there today. But our founding fathers were all Freemasons,
- 1:09:31okay for the most part and stuff, so got to have some respect
- 1:09:36for that. It's just I wanted to talk about one more goat man at
- 1:09:41least before we go today, because there's another pretty famous goat man out of
- 1:09:44Texas called the lake Worth Monster, okay, And I was just thinking,
- 1:09:49you know, the Jersey Devil has been described as a goat man as well
- 1:09:53up in New Jersey in the Prime Barons. Okay, but but today I
- 1:09:57do there was there's been a lot of sightings of this, of this Lakewards
- 1:10:01Monster up in down in Texas, and uh, and it's described as a
- 1:10:06goat man. This is a picture somebody's holding up a picture of somebody actually
- 1:10:12snapped a picture of it, and it looks like a white goat man.
- 1:10:15They described it. The witnesses, there has been multiple witnesses. They've described
- 1:10:18it as a half man, half goat, seven feet tall, weighing three
- 1:10:23hundred and fifty pounds. Harry, I wonder I wonder if I could I
- 1:10:27wonder if that could be a sheep squatch? Yes, remember squat? Yes,
- 1:10:33Well, well this is different because they said that it was covered in
- 1:10:35scales too, So Harry has horns on it, covered in scales, and
- 1:10:42reportedly seen running across a cliff and tossing a pickup truck tire five hundred feet
- 1:10:47in the air. Okay, that's five hundred feet in the air. That's
- 1:10:53that's got a lot of strength behind it. Tires are a little heavy,
- 1:10:56Okay. All several cases were actually bigfoot and some other things like that had
- 1:11:03wet where their hair was wet would look kind of like scales too. I
- 1:11:08mean, when their hair is madden and wet, it cannot hear that way.
- 1:11:12Here's the thing about it, And you know, I've talked a lot
- 1:11:15about this now, have read over it seemed like in my lifetime a million
- 1:11:18or more eyewitness accounts of all these things. And here's the interesting thing you
- 1:11:23got to remember about human observation. When we get scared, I mean really
- 1:11:29scared, things can take on a different ramification of what they may really be.
- 1:11:35A lot of times it looks a lot bigger than it is to us.
- 1:11:39If we're scared out. It was scaredness pretty good. We seem to
- 1:11:45make the size bigger than what it really is. We exaggerate it in our
- 1:11:48mind. Our mind does that too. It's just fear doing that, you
- 1:11:51know. And I think sometimes and I've noticed just in a lot of these
- 1:11:57eyewitness cases, the fear sort of takes over that factors sometimes, and so
- 1:12:02you have to kind of take some of that stuff with a kind of I'm
- 1:12:06not gonna say, a grain of salt, maybe a spoonful of salt,
- 1:12:11because sometimes these eye wentess accounts can be exaggerated a little bit, or they
- 1:12:15can miscontrue what they're looking at, and they don't mean to, of course.
- 1:12:20It's it's just a natural human fraility that we have, you know.
- 1:12:26Oh yeah, you know something that I found a pattern, always looking for
- 1:12:30patterns, a kind of pattern in the fightings, and it is fifty years
- 1:12:34ago is when they first started being Okay, fifty years ago. Now,
- 1:12:39a lot of these articles that I've found I pulled up were from the past
- 1:12:44three two to three five years at the most, okay, and all of
- 1:12:48them, all of every goment, and I'm sure they go farther back than
- 1:12:53that, But most of these articles said that they were first started being seen
- 1:12:57fifty years ago. Why would it have been fifteen years ago? Dennis,
- 1:13:03Well, if these things are out there and they are breeding, or they're
- 1:13:09being conjured up or whatever the situation is going on, it stands the reason
- 1:13:13you may be runing in the different generations of this. Absolutely. And you
- 1:13:18know that's the interesting thing when you go back to folklore and history and you
- 1:13:23see all this stuff keep popping up again, it's the patterns. Like you
- 1:13:26say, that's what we look for. We trained to look for the patterns
- 1:13:30and connect the dots. You have to wonder if some of these things that
- 1:13:33we're looking at may not be immortal. They may not have to go through
- 1:13:39time and space like you and I do, They may not transcend it the
- 1:13:43same way. Yeah, very true, that's right. Aaron has an interesting
- 1:13:47comment one of the Lake Words Monster witnesses that it looked like the scales were
- 1:13:53actually burned scars. Yeah, that would make sense. Yeah, it could
- 1:13:58have bit shut on fire. It could have been actually set on fire one
- 1:14:00time or another. Yeah, it's a possibility to Yeah, yeah, it
- 1:14:05could have been. I mean, we don't know the full history behind it,
- 1:14:11but it is seen at the lake, and so I guess maybe that's
- 1:14:14where people assume that were scales. I mean, there's no talent, there's
- 1:14:17no talent, but yeah, I wonder if the Late Monster was conjured.
- 1:14:24Do you do you think all of these goat men have been conjured? Do
- 1:14:28you think do you think? I think the vast majority of it is.
- 1:14:34I think the vast majority well, knowing what I know about dark witchcraft,
- 1:14:38that is a distinct possibility. I'm not going to say every incident of it
- 1:14:43is, but I think the vast majority is got that connection to it.
- 1:14:46I think a lot of these so called phantom black cats, these big phantom
- 1:14:50black cats that are seen I have that connection as well, especially in places
- 1:14:57like England where there should not be any black panthers. Where do they come
- 1:15:00from? What are they doing there? Moring the fact that maybe they are
- 1:15:03escapees from a zoo or something, and they have a natural I'm talking about
- 1:15:08once you eliminate the natural astributes of this, the natural explanations, and you
- 1:15:14don't and you're left with the supernatural. You got to look at it that
- 1:15:16way. Something that goes beyond. And when I say supernatural, I don't
- 1:15:20just mean paranormal, which you know a lot of people lot times get those
- 1:15:25two turns messed up a lot. Supernatural means way above the natural. Paranormal
- 1:15:30means it's slightly above the normal. Okay. So you've got two kinds of
- 1:15:35different levels that you're dealing with here. And when you talk about something that
- 1:15:40is supernatural, it goes way above being natural. It comes into the WU
- 1:15:45factor, as we call it. That's what you got to look forward some
- 1:15:49of these things, and you got to see that it's got to have an
- 1:15:51origin, and that origin got to run to something that is beyond what we
- 1:15:58know is natural law, the natural laws of the universe. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:16:03well, you know i'd mentioned before that, you know, our friend
- 1:16:08William Nighthawk had said that there's an indigenous connection to a lot of these cryptods,
- 1:16:12to all the cryptods pretty much dog Man big Foot, especially being I'm
- 1:16:16gonna say, summoned or conjureds okay by medicine men and medicine women to protect
- 1:16:24sacred lands okay, and to protect them okay. So oh yeah, absolutely,
- 1:16:30I believe that. I believe that. Yeah, I believe that,
- 1:16:33Justica, there are certain rituals by the indigenous people that that would bring fullth
- 1:16:41what I call guardians for these areas. Uh, these spirits would. And
- 1:16:45these spirits when they are guardians, can take on different forms sometimes depending on
- 1:16:51what they need to do. They can be I think especially guardians over burial
- 1:16:58grounds which are considered sacred to these people. And also the mountains, certain
- 1:17:03areas like well Tay for instance, the Superstitious Mountains or the Black Hills of
- 1:17:11Dakota Hills. A lot of these places are very sacred to them. So
- 1:17:15yeah, without that, they will put guardians, spiritual guardians over these areas,
- 1:17:20and I think a lot of people are running into that. I had
- 1:17:23a case years ago where I've gotten contacted by a lady in California and she
- 1:17:30actually never told me she was an actress. I think she was very well
- 1:17:34famous, but she never told me a how didn't it do? Okay,
- 1:17:36I'm not going to get into that, but anyway, she had bought a
- 1:17:40ranch and she had lived on this ranch for about ten years, and she
- 1:17:44had a young daughter, and the daughter was probably around ten years old something
- 1:17:48like that, and she contacted me and said, look, I never had
- 1:17:53any problem with this ranch until a few weeks ago. Things started going weird
- 1:18:00around here, doors opening, lights, turning on, animals getting hurt.
- 1:18:04She had horses, I think, and said some of them were getting hurt
- 1:18:09and abused, scratches on them. Some weird stuff going on. And I
- 1:18:13said, well, you know, after I found out she wasn't practicing what
- 1:18:16dark wadgecraft, she wasn't blaming with Wii boards, I asked the common questions
- 1:18:23all of that. I said, this got to have an origin to it.
- 1:18:26There's got to be a reason why this is going on. It just
- 1:18:29started up like this. And she actually gave me the clue. She said,
- 1:18:33well, you know, there's an old Native American burial ground I'm part
- 1:18:39of my property. And I noticed a few weeks back that there'd been some
- 1:18:43flooding and some of it had washed away down in there, and some of
- 1:18:46the mounds were disturbed. I said, oh, light bulb moment, you
- 1:18:49know, I said, yeah, uh huh, that's probably what the problem
- 1:18:55is. Oh. Here, one more thing I got to tell you that
- 1:18:58she said hurt and a listen to this, that her daughter had opened the
- 1:19:00curtain one night in the house and looked out of the window and looking back
- 1:19:05was his face of what she described as almost like a dog man looking back
- 1:19:11at her scared her daughter to death. That's why she called me. That's
- 1:19:15why she contacted me. And I told her, I said, you get
- 1:19:18some you know, you get some shaman out there and do what you need
- 1:19:25to do to consulcate, reconcilcrate that land since it's been disturbed, and that
- 1:19:30should take every problem. Well. The last time I heard from her was
- 1:19:33a few weeks later. After that, she said, everything to find out,
- 1:19:38horses are doing good. My daughter's okay. The feeling is gone out
- 1:19:42of my house and my land. She had them come come, some civil
- 1:19:46Native Americans coming bless the land through their rituals and cleansing rituals over and that
- 1:19:53solved her problem. But yet I think when that happened, definitely a guardian
- 1:19:58was activated. Oh, a guardian was activated. Man, that's that makes
- 1:20:04a lot of sense, one percent, Especially of those mounds. I mean,
- 1:20:09that's a horrible thought. The mounds disintegrating a little bit, and you
- 1:20:13know, artifacts coming out, bones and things like that. It reminds me
- 1:20:16of the Bell Witch story, you know, with those kids from the soul
- 1:20:21Home and the tooth fell out of it and it rolled into their porch and
- 1:20:26uh, and they became haunted after that. You know, I was thinking
- 1:20:31about the Pobelic Bridge, Okay, the Pobelic Creek, the trestle over it,
- 1:20:36and us discussing blood bloodshed conjuring, which which kind of like like war
- 1:20:45battlefields, like civil war battlefields having bloodshed, and uh, they're needing to
- 1:20:48be more blood, right, like it thrives all the land needs the blood.
- 1:20:54Well, what about in terms of this public trestle where all of these
- 1:20:58young children, it's almost like, dare I say, a sacrifice to the
- 1:21:02land this is Could that be what's going on? And I would assume if
- 1:21:09there is a go man there, there's probably some kind of rituals going on
- 1:21:12there regularly. These dark areas do require blood sacrifice from time to time,
- 1:21:19and I think that is why a lot of accidents and trauma take place in
- 1:21:24some of these areas. It requires that. It's almost so, I say,
- 1:21:28a supernatural requirement by these areas for it to maintain its dark power,
- 1:21:35it must have blood sacrifices. That is the number one key to a lot
- 1:21:40of dark witchcraft and satanic stuff. Like you know, we've often said before
- 1:21:45that blood line. That red blood line flows through everything of this, and
- 1:21:49the rituals are geared to blood. All this comes down to that, and
- 1:21:54that's how this dark power retains its power and strengthens itself. Really from time
- 1:22:00to time, the more buddy gets, the better likes it. That's just
- 1:22:03the way it goes. And some people have said, and I'm not going
- 1:22:09to get into that, it's kind of political that abortion fulfills some of this
- 1:22:13sacrificial type of blood thing too as well. But you've got to remember one
- 1:22:17thing. Darkness requires an energy, It requires a sacrifice, It requires something
- 1:22:26given to it in order to increase its power. Oh my gosh, well
- 1:22:32that's what I thought of when I started reading into the Public Monster and doing
- 1:22:35my research on it. It was not so much the Public Monster that was
- 1:22:41actually coming up in all the searches. It was all the death that has
- 1:22:45occurred with people going to see the Public Monster and to try to get an
- 1:22:50interaction with it. Okay, so it's very quite sad. I would advise
- 1:22:57everyone to stay away from there. Do not get on that bridge. Go
- 1:23:00see that, go see it, but don't get anywhere near it. Okay,
- 1:23:03don't get on that bridge and I do know that fap SA tell us
- 1:23:10a nice story for once. Yeah that, But but Norfolk Southern, the
- 1:23:15train company, the railroad company will will prosecute to the fullest extent if they
- 1:23:21catch people there. Okay, to the and I and like I said earlier,
- 1:23:25I do believe it's federal charges. Okay, it can be very bad.
- 1:23:28They have. They have their own little police force there with the rank
- 1:23:31with the railroad company. Okay, so stay away, beware right, not
- 1:23:36so much, it's just dark. I mean, I have no desire to
- 1:23:41go looking for goat Man personally. I mean I did go look for pig
- 1:23:45Man when I was a teenager, Okay, and I look for dog Man
- 1:23:47and big Foot now and all that kind of stuff. Goat Man would be
- 1:23:49fun to come across, but I'm not going to go running on a train
- 1:23:54trestle to go try to find it. It wouldn't be definitely. And when
- 1:24:00we had to show a lot of curses the other Day's an interesting thing about
- 1:24:03curses. You have to invoke a guardian spirit that usually carries that curse out.
- 1:24:11In other words, he maintains that curse. And I just wonder if
- 1:24:15that's cursed land too, uh In that area that may be part of the
- 1:24:19goat man thing as well. It's one that's possibility. Oh yeah, I
- 1:24:26think I think curse lands have a lot to do with a lot of these
- 1:24:28cryptids, obviously, that's what I think. Uh. And also being at
- 1:24:32national parks, maybe the national parks are cursed too, who knows, Uh,
- 1:24:38some of the federal land. Uh. It's just it's just tough to
- 1:24:41think about, okay, And it's uh, it's it's interesting to have these
- 1:24:44conversations and uh, and yet these can be kind of dark topics. I
- 1:24:48know we've been we've been going pretty hard with some of these darker topics because
- 1:24:53this is what's manifested in our world right now. Okay, it's kind of
- 1:24:56manifested here, and so we're we're kind of I don't see exposing it,
- 1:25:00okay, but we're just talking about it so we can bring it to light
- 1:25:03and kind of understand it a little better and understand where it's coming from and
- 1:25:08how to avoid it, Okay, how to avoid it? And so Dennis,
- 1:25:13I just love I love this. You do you have any final thoughts
- 1:25:15today on the goat men and the public monster and everything we talked about?
- 1:25:21Well, thank you know, we have to be very careful some things that
- 1:25:26we participate in, whether we knowingly participating or not. I think that's the
- 1:25:30lesson that you can take from the goat man. The goat man itself maybe
- 1:25:34something I think without doubt that has been conjured up. It's not supposed to
- 1:25:38be here. There's not nothing walking around in nature that looks like the goat
- 1:25:42man in that respect. To me, it has to be something that is
- 1:25:46not supposed to be here, something above the natural, and that is the
- 1:25:49goat man. Definitely. Oh yeah, it doesn't seem very natural. It
- 1:25:57does not. Thank you, Jane. Bringing awareness to the public, that's
- 1:26:00what we're doing. Dennis, you're wonderful at doing that too. You have
- 1:26:04so much knowledge, and you have a seminar coming up tonight. So I
- 1:26:08didn't want to. I don't want to show too long today because I know
- 1:26:11you have a lot to get ready for tonight. Tell the audience what you
- 1:26:14have going on tonight. Yeah, Well, it's going to be two a
- 1:26:17special two hour seminar tonight at nine o'clock Eastern Sundery and Time on Hunting the
- 1:26:23Shadows YouTube channel. It's called Nefflin The Rise of the falling, and I
- 1:26:29won't be definitely talking about some of the very stuff we talked about today of
- 1:26:32what's going on in this world and the plans of the falling how for us?
- 1:26:39And also Friday Night on Paranormal Point of View coming up this week at
- 1:26:44nine o'clock them Eastern standard. All my shows are nine o'clock m Eastern standay
- 1:26:47time. I'm gonna be talking about those famous Black Sea lines and witch cats.
- 1:26:57I'm gonna be talking a little bit about that, so it'll be some
- 1:26:59more conjuring stuff going on there. And uh. And of course on our
- 1:27:02next show with my good friend Gerold Fountain Monday at nine o'clock me on Eastern
- 1:27:06standing time, the Road Less Traveled, and we're gonna be talking about the
- 1:27:11very famous Saint Germaine. Oh that's a good one, Sat Dramaine. That
- 1:27:18was a vampire eight now or some other things to I alchemisted all other good
- 1:27:25stuff. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I can't wait. I just think
- 1:27:29you have the best seminars and the best discussions. We love garyl too,
- 1:27:33one hundred percent. And uh, and I appreciate all the knowledge of putting
- 1:27:38out there. You're raising awareness and bringing bringing all this to the public.
- 1:27:44And yes, and I'm enjoying it. I'm having a good time doing this.
- 1:27:47I know, like I said, I know it's dark, but this
- 1:27:50is this is what we do, right, this is what we do.
- 1:27:54It is definitely and you know it's always good when we can bring the darkness
- 1:27:58into the light for everybody to see. I like that definitely. Oh yeah,
- 1:28:03oh yeah. Ponchos at work, so he always gets paid to watch
- 1:28:06our show, all my show, So thank you for being here. I'm
- 1:28:10glad that you're getting paid to watch today. That's cool. Yeah. Well,
- 1:28:15you guys please please go over and hang out tonight in the chat with
- 1:28:18Dennis. It is going to be well worth your time, you guys.
- 1:28:23Nine pm Eastern, eighth Central tonight on Hunting the Shadows. So you guys
- 1:28:28please go check that out. And if you guys would like to purchase Dennis's
- 1:28:30books and get more information on Dennis, I'll go to his website Dennis W.
- 1:28:35Dick Carol dot com. Okay, and yeah, I want to thank
- 1:28:40everybody for being here today and for joining us, and for all the people
- 1:28:44in the chat, you guys rock. For all my channel members Patreon members,
- 1:28:47thank you Marien for that, superstitor. It is much appreciated, and
- 1:28:53you guys please come back and see me tomorrow night. I have remote viewed,
- 1:28:57actually I forgot, i'd actually remote viewed the public Monster a long time
- 1:29:00ago, so I have that. We might talk about that a little bit
- 1:29:02tomorrow night. But I've also remote viewed an alien on camera too, so
- 1:29:09I haven't decided which target we're doing tomorrownight, but I'm gonna have a really
- 1:29:12good show for you guys at eight pm Eastern tomorrow night Thursday here and then
- 1:29:17I should be back Sunday on Space Out Radio too. Okay, but everybody
- 1:29:23have a wonderful day. Dennis, thank you again for being here. You're
- 1:29:26the best. I appreciate you. All right, y'all, Well, stay
- 1:29:30safe out there, everybody, okay, don't go conjure, and no goat
- 1:29:33men, okay, and stay away from train trestles. All right, y'all
- 1:29:39have a great day and I'll see y'all later. By Dennis, I pliny
- 1:30:04times to be in many things, last Lane and plans mass