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- 0:05SF School's Chief Faces Teacher, Parent Backlash over Salesforce back tech Push.
- 0:11Written by Ramon Skiba. This article is being read by an automated
- 0:15voice, generated by Everlet. Salesforce's annual Dreamforce Conference in San Francisco
- 0:22always attracts prominent tech CEOs like Anthropics, Dario Amade, and Nvidia's Jensen
- 0:27Huang, plus a handful of celebrities like Matthew McConaughey and Reese Witherspoon,
- 0:32but this year it also included a different sort of a speaker
- 0:35who came to talk about artificial intelligence in public school On Wednesday,
- 0:40Maria Sue, superintendent of the San Francisco Unified School District, spoke about
- 0:44deploying AI products not in software development, but in the classroom. She
- 0:49argued that San Francisco school teachers need AI
- 0:51tools, to be successful. We need to make sure we understand the
- 0:55tools that we put in front of our students. Make sure we
- 0:59train our educators to use the tools right, she said. Salesforce, of
- 1:03course, makes AI tools, and Sue's appearance at Dreamforce comes after Salesforce's
- 1:08September 14th news that the company announced 18 million in new grants
- 1:12supporting SFUSD and other school districts. SFUSD also signed a contract with
- 1:17OpenAI earlier this year, deploying its ChatGPT Edu product to 12,000 teachers
- 1:22and staff. It's also currently developing a comprehensive tech and AI policy,
- 1:28on which the school board is scheduled to vote on march ninth,
- 1:31twenty twenty seven. But as public opinion sours on the AI and
- 1:35tech industry and a stop the AI rate march disrupted Dreamforce on
- 1:39Thursday, Sue's AI advocacy is a step into contentious territory, and some
- 1:43teachers and parents are wary of AI's advance into the classroom. Sue's
- 1:48no stranger to controversy, facing criticism from San Francisco teachers during their
- 1:52four day strike earlier this year, and from Republicans over her support
- 1:56for transgender student protections, and now she's drawing criticism for her AI
- 2:01push. More than one thousand parents and teachers signed a petition that
- 2:05calls for limiting AI tools and restricting screen time. Salesforce philanthropy, Sue
- 2:12was effusive in her praise for SFUSD's ongoing, nearly fourteen year partnership
- 2:16with Salesforce. It's not a one and done situation, she said. If
- 2:20you commit to us, we'll commit to you. Given that Salesforce is
- 2:24a software company that sells AI products, like Agent Force, it has
- 2:27a vested interest in promoting AI products in new markets, which could
- 2:31include education. Since twenty twenty three, Salesforce has made AI a priority
- 2:36with its donations to SFUSD, encouraging training teachers to include AI in
- 2:40their lesson plans, for example. And its philanthropy isn't new. Salesforce's latest
- 2:46round of grants follows a previous donation of thirteen million dollars last
- 2:50October to San Francisco and Oakland public schools, and its total largesse
- 2:54adds up to more than one hundred fifty six million dollars since
- 2:58twenty thirteen. Seemingly aware of the backlash against AI in the Bay
- 3:02Area, Sue never used the word AI in her remarks, in contrast
- 3:06to her fellow speak Cheryl Lee Ralph, an Emmy winning actor who
- 3:09portrays a kindergarten teacher In
- 3:11the mockumentary TV show Abbott Elementary, and the moderator, Salesforce Senior Vice
- 3:15President of Impact Sunia Norman. Instead, Sue spoke in general terms of
- 3:20tools. Throughout the event, though emphasizing the importance of the human relationship
- 3:25in the classroom, she seemed certain that such tools would be used
- 3:29by teachers and students. She did not speak of listening to teachers
- 3:34or parents about whether they might want them at all. In a
- 3:37follow-up interview with SFgate, Norman said Salesforce has no expectations as to
- 3:42how or whether tech products will be used in the schools. It's
- 3:46not a conflict of interest, she told S. F. Gate. It's not
- 3:49about getting technology in the hands of middle school students. In a
- 3:53statement, the school district did not answer SF Gates questions about potential
- 3:57impacts of AI products on student critical thinking and mental health. Instead,
- 4:02it included a reply from Sue that said, SFUSD recognizes the urgency
- 4:07of establishing clear, thoughtful guidance around student screen use and artificial intelligence
- 4:12as these technologies continue to evolve. The statement also pointed to the
- 4:16district's webpage on generative and agent AI in SFUSD, which outlines general
- 4:21recommendations for classroom use of AI products like ChatGPT, such as for
- 4:25lesson plans and student art, while noting concerns about AI inaccuracies and
- 4:30student privacy. Questions from parents, and teachers. Similar to a debate over
- 4:36AI use that's currently surrounding the California State University system, reception to
- 4:40the rollout of tech and AI products in schools from San Francisco
- 4:44parents and teachers has been mixed. On policies from AI in classrooms
- 4:48to cell phone use by students, parents want more transparency, said Emily
- 4:52De Ayora, communications director at nonprofit San Francisco Parents Coalition. We're not
- 4:58opposed to tech tools, she said.
- 5:00We just want the district thoughtfully listening to parents, hearing their concerns,
- 5:05and including those in the process of building out policies. Adla Chisty,
- 5:10another member of the group and a former teacher, went further, telling
- 5:13SF Gate that the school district has not provided a data on
- 5:16the costs of the AI technologies or whether the AI products have
- 5:20any benefit for student success rates. She also laments the lack of
- 5:23regulations from city officials so far. We shouldn't be using SFUSD as
- 5:28labs to figure out this stuff, she said. Cassandra Curiel, the president
- 5:33of the United Educators of San Francisco Union, who previously faced off
- 5:37against Sioux during the teacher's strike, which was partly over limitations on
- 5:41the district's use of AI, expressed a similar sentiment. After making students
- 5:45and teachers lab mice, there has not been any data to show
- 5:49those tools advance the learning of students, she said. Both Chiste and
- 5:53Courial, an English teacher, cite Amira as an example. The district introduced
- 5:58the AI Reading Tutoring Tool last year, without consulting the Union, Curial
- 6:02said.
- 6:03In a statement, SFUSD spokesperson Katrina Kincaid did not respond to SF
- 6:07Gates question about communicating with the Union, instead saying that the California
- 6:12Department of Education approved AMIRA in december twenty twenty four. In our
- 6:16schools we utilize Amira to practice reading fluency as an optional supplemental
- 6:21tool to the curriculum, she said. Curiel argues that using Amira increases
- 6:26teachers workload rather than reducing it and limits much needed student teacher
- 6:30interactions as students strive to catch up with their peers reading skills,
- 6:34at a time when a majority of Americans read below a sixth
- 6:38grade level, according to a Gallup analysis. In addition, Amira does not
- 6:42perform well with students who speak with accents or speech impediments, she
- 6:46said. In addition to reading, the AI tools could also change how
- 6:50math is taught. At the Dreamforce event, Sue compared new tech tools
- 6:54to calculators, arguing that calculators did not harm students ability to learn
- 6:59math, despite some fears when they were first introduced. Yet the latest
- 7:03research on AI and math isn't promising. A new study by researchers
- 7:07at UC Irvine and the educational publisher, McGraw Hill that's in peer
- 7:11review, finds that high school students spend thirty percent less time on
- 7:15math homework problems that they can copy and paste in AI chatbots,
- 7:19and their performance drops twenty five percent on tests. Chisty particularly worries
- 7:24about potential effects on mental health if students frequently interact with chatbots.
- 7:30Why should parents have to be the ones raising this issue? She
- 7:33asked. There should be a halt on this until we figure out
- 7:36what the impacts are. Both parents and teachers emphasize that they're not
- 7:41opposed to tech tools per se in San Francisco schools. We're not
- 7:45anti technology, Curiel said. We're against the companies and owners that want
- 7:49to exploit us.