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  None. And we're back in The Dirty old
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  art classroom where we host our weekly episodes of Anime Club.
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  If you like snacks, if you like anime, then you are in the right
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  subscribe button and stick around.
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  Because today we're doing Franz Ferdinand noises.
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  Cyberpunk. I'm with me.
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  Hey Tunes. Oh, I should have started Hey
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  Tunes. And with me we've got the Gok
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  himself, my wonderful Co host and probably my best chumba,
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  Christopher Reid. Yeah.
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  How you doing Chris buddy? Yeah, so and that you never
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  would have bothered. I never would have bothered
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  either, except for we set the challenge to try and watch more
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  things that we hadn't seen yet. And this was one that neither of
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  us had seen, but that I we and how we decided.
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  So this year we're doing lots of different challenges to decide
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  who gets to pick each weekly anime and this 11 purely on
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  Meredith's Instagram. So we each created a promo, a
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  promo video. And so actually it's not even
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  really my pick. It's it's the Grams pick.
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  But yeah, cyberpunk edge runners.
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  Yeah, so that's my last question.
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  Straight out the window straight away, which is well, you watched
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  past episode 3, both of us have. So we're going to probably talk
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  all the way up to episode sort of eight or 9 is where we're
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  we're at currently, isn't it? So, yeah.
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  Oh, who is it? Is it that we can hear and who
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  can we not? Well, that's nice.
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  Is it you? There we go.
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  We're just doing something. Got some technical difficulties,
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  folks. So Chris always yells at me
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  right when we do our sound check because what what happens is we
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  do the sound check, I make some noises and then I proceed to
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  talk over talk over the sound check.
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  So Chris can't actually hear what happened.
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  And I think that's finally come to haunt us, this test
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  testicles. Test, test, test.
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  Yeah, Chris has been lost in the net.
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  It happens. It does.
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  He does. He's net runner gone deep.
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  Although I think Chris, if we were talking about this before,
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  weren't we? And I was like, I think Chris is
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  a nomad. I think rather than a kind of
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  like, I suppose you could still be a nomad net runner, but I see
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  you more as like a kind of, I see more grease, grease monkey
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  roles. You'd be climbing through vents
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  to break into an apartment that you'd been evicted from.
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  It looks like we've got victory, so you're back.
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  Welcome back to Night City. Good to have you with us, Jim.
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  So, yeah, so some people will have played Cyberpunk the game,
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  but for people who haven't played the game and haven't seen
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  the anime, what would you say that this is about?
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  Chris? Oh, Chris, you've gone again,
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  apparently. I don't think so, because I can
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  see in OBS that you're registering as making noise.
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  Test, test, test. Yeah, myself, yeah.
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  Yeah, OK. We might be doing a solo podcast
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  today where I just briefly talk about cyberpunk and then we
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  count some Jelly beans. Oh, we, they heard the test,
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  test, test. But we did.
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  They did last time too. Maybe you just have to stay real
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  close to the mic. Test, test, test.
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  How's that? Can you hear us now?
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  I can hear myself. Oh, wait for couch confirmation,
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  Yeah. This is going to be hard because
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  I can hear me so talk. Oh, you're.
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  Just going to have to not throw yourself off.
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  It's like you've got a Johnny Silver hands in your head.
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  Oh no, Jordan is. I didn't like that character.
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  What you didn't like? You didn't like?
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  Charlie Reeves, I don't think he's a likable character.
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  I don't think you're supposed to like him.
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  He's a terrorist. He's a.
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  He's a narcissistic egomaniac terrorist.
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  Terrorist of freedom fighter. Terrorist.
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  Yeah. Yeah, but so let's get back.
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  For those who haven't seen anime, what would you say it was
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  about? It's a futuristic The List
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  wasteland because, and it's about a bloke called David.
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  David Martinez. Yes.
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  Who was thrust in this? Sorry, this is horrible.
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  He's, Yeah. He's, he's born at this life
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  where his mom's a really overworked woman trying to put
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  him through a fancy school. And he's kind of been short
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  drawn the short store because he doesn't want to do it.
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  But he wants to impress his mom because she's working so hard
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  for it and life just doesn't go his way.
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  The rich kids at school beat them all.
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  Like, yeah. And then, yeah.
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  They make his life kind of miserable.
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  And it kind of falls in the wrong crowd after his Barber
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  dies. Yeah, So she dies in it.
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  It starts off, I would say in a very kind of like bleak.
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  So it's it's set in the world of Light City.
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  I think this actually does a better job than the game of
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  expressing how truly bleak Light City is, especially if you are
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  like, if you don't have money and you're struggling to get by
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  and you don't have like, yeah, resources or like a crew to run
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  with. Night City is a horrible place
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  to be. And it starts off in, if you can
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  imagine a world where you have to pay for all sorts of
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  healthcare and emergency services.
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  And what happens is him and his mother get into a like a freak
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  car accident. So there's some gangsters who
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  would kind of do a bit of a drive by their car gets flipped.
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  His mother ends up being kind of propelled out of the car.
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  And then they get finally get taken to like by like a kind of
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  sort of public ish low cost, low cost hospital.
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  And and because that because they haven't can't afford
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  resuscitation. So basically his mother starts
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  to stabilise, then something goes wrong.
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  But they because they've run out of money and they can't afford
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  stabilisation. What happens is the she dies and
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  then he's left like this kid with all this debt, he can't pay
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  his rent and he ends up falling in with like a bunch of edge
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  runners who are kind of mercenary style, a bit of a
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  drive by. Yeah, it probably is like a bit
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  of an understatement, but yeah, so.
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  So he kind of gets propelled and the edge runners are are
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  criminals basically. They do jobs for people.
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  And after his mum dies, he finds Sandivistan, which is a type of
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  spinal implant that allows you to move incredibly fast.
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  Massively OP and like all I would say once you get it in the
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  game it's like, oh you can kind of face any scenario.
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  It's OP in the game. In the anime, it's also OP, but
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  they do a nice job of balancing it for the story with some kind
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  of like, human biology limits. So they kind of do a good job of
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  reshaping it so that it doesn't completely break the story and
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  he doesn't become like a godchild.
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  And yeah, and from there it's basically just about him
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  struggling to survive and like, but also a little bit just
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  trying to fit in with his new family and trying to like, get
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  the girl. And there's a kind of nice mix
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  between like scenes where you're unpacking the relationship
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  between him and the other edge runners versus that action
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  scenes. And the action scenes in this
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  are so much fun. And they really, you can tell
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  that they sink a lot of the budget.
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  They, they do the same thing that I think Ghosts in the Shell
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  does really well. The original Ghosts in the
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  Shell, which is they sink the budget into the action scenes
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  and then they find interesting ways of showing the quieter
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  scenes and framing them so that you don't have to have a lot of
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  animation, if that makes sense. Like I think it's a carefully
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  thought out anime. The studio is the same studio
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  that does Killer Kill and delicious in dungeon.
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  So it is a bit of a feast for the eyes as well because you
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  know, they are very Technicolor. They are very detailed.
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  And he was he was saying before that a lot of the soundtrack art
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  is made by music musicians that you will know and love,
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  especially if you're Chris and I stay at you.
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  Because I think we do think that this is an anime made for people
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  who were like rocking out to Franz Ferdinand in their teams
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  because they do like the opening credits and it is a tune.
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  And I was watching this with Ben Murder Half, and he was like,
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  and we were both like this. Do we just we forget how much we
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  loved Franz Ferdinand? Wow.
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  Yeah, it does. And it feels like, and it's also
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  like neon and Technicolor. Like the anime is kind of very
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  bright. It feels really well suited, I
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  think for anime, this type of setting, they've done a really
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  good job of translating the setting of the game into the
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  yeah, into the into the like a different medium for
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  storytelling. It's it's a good one, I think I
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  would say. Yeah.
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  Yeah. We're currently, when I say we,
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  I'm watching Ben play through a game and I get to make decisions
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  occasionally, usually when it comes to like the romance
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  options. We're currently wooing Pan Am.
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  It's a whole thing. She's very cool.
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  Yeah, I did. I've also been calling everyone
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  tune this week. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, the language is a really fun part of it, I think.
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  Yeah, back to single player. I like that we're calling it
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  single player though. So yeah, no, I would say that
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  this is a really brightly coloured one.
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  I'm just going to keep going. Well, Chris has a, Chris has a
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  like a small meant to be in the background because we're all
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  entitled to a meant to be occasionally, yeah.
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  It's fine. I'll I'll try.
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  And work it. And so, yeah.
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  What was your kind of initial impressions on animation style,
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  Chris? It was, it was amazing, like
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  even the like avid colors. It was kind of what I wanted,
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  but modern Ghost the Shell to be, even though in July there is
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  a new Ghost the Shell coming out.
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  I know and I'm not sure I know I've I saw that you posted that
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  today and I ghost in the shells up there with like my favorite,
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  favorite anime and I'm not sure that I'm not sure about the
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  poster. It makes me nervous because they
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  are just. It doesn't look like Ghost in
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  the shell to me. Yeah, not sure about the boobs.
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  I do you know what the boobs are a big part of it.
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  But then like Major Kuznagi does have like she is like a sexy bod
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  in the in the first ones. It just feels, I don't know, it
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  just didn't feel when I saw it. I didn't feel excited.
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  I was like, oh, I just had like a gut reaction of, Oh, I'm not
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  sure I'm going to like this. Yeah, I mean, I'm.
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  I would say that this feels more like a legacy for Ghost in the
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  Shell than the poster that was released.
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  Yeah, I left the juries out on that one.
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  I think about what the animation of this, it's bright, colourful,
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  and it's familiar because I've played the game and I don't
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  know, because it's familiar to us.
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  That's why it took us back to like, yeah, with a Franz
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  Ferdinand. I'm like, yeah, of course, to
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  the shell. Then it just clicked.
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  I mean, was it Lucy is Kusanagi? Oh, this is like a blonde
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  Kusanagi. There's a split and also Kiwis
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  is his the net, even the Bob and Kiwi has a similar Bob and.
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  Kiwi. And the there are some weird
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  arguments. I have a question in a minute
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  for you, Chris, about like what what implants, etcetera you
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  would choose to get right. But she Kiwi also has blue
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  nipples, which I think is a wild choice of like of all the things
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  that you could do to yourself in a world like cyberpunk, like
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  drop a few grand on some blue nipples.
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  Just feels like it just feels like an odd choice.
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  She also has no lower face. So she has this, like, weird
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  mask over her face, which is kind of low key horrifying.
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  Yeah. But it is.
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  It is. And it also is very, I would say
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  very grotesque. There's a bit of body horror
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  twisted into this, into the cybernetics and love it things
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  for sure, which is, yeah, it will hit the kind of horror
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  crowd in the right way. So it does a good job of
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  blending kind of the elements of the game with some kind of new
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  things that you can only do in, I think you can really only do
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  in animation that probably wouldn't work in the game quite
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  so well. Well, I mean, yeah, even looking
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  at the difference in the game and the anime, this it goes into
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  some things that it doesn't like the cyber, the mentalness.
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  What's it called again? Cyber Psycho.
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  Cyber Cycles. I mean, that was the side
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  mission, and it doesn't affect the main character in the game,
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  but in this one it's like a very real threat to everyone.
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  Yeah, that's when you have augmentations to your body.
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  It makes you go mental basically.
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  And the other thing I really liked is when he had the Sam
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  Divestan put in, not that I've been practicing that word just
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  so I can throw it out off the calf like it was really easy.
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  But when he has that put in, which is the spinal implant,
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  that makes him move really fast. Yeah.
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  He gets like at one point he uses it too much too often and
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  just like his body starts to reject it basically.
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  And in it they're all like, well, what meds are you taking?
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  As if it's like once you get implants, you have to take meds
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  to stop your body rejecting them, which makes perfect
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  scientific sense. You know, I don't think it's
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  really touched on in the game. It's not like a survival
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  mechanic that you have to do. It's not a thing in the game.
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  It's not so much a thing in the game, but I kind of love that
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  they built it into this because it kind of it takes it deeper
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  into the sci-fi realm and it's a nice artistic task.
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  Everyone become an OP though as well isn't it?
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  It does, yeah. And that's the other thing about
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  cyber psychosis is that you can mod yourself to fuck, but at
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  what cost? There is a cost to kind of like
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  changing your your bodies. Which brings me onto my question
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  for the week, which is like, OK, so we're in Night City, you've
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  got a few 100 grand to spend on whatever cyber implants you
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  want, right? What you're going for?
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  What's your top three? So a lot of the enhancements are
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  either for netburners for diving at the web or the offensives or
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  the weapons. I'll probably choose neither.
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  Something that I would actually use so I would have.
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  Thumbs are lighter. Thumbs are lighter and a banner
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  attachment for me. Hands like a finger, so it's
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  like. You're basically just turning
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  yourself into a toolbox is what's happening, hey?
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  Watch, I'm just sick of carrying toolboxes.
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  I'd want to jump really high, so like I want to look like I've I
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  could squat 1000 times. Little junk.
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  Jacksonville studio says, hey James, my nips would also be a
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  2000 Watt halogen torch is blink twice to turn them on.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I just realized Edge Edge
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  runners also Jackson Wolf is also just put something in the
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  chat has made me realize why they're called edge runners
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  because they're running on the edge of just the right amount of
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  Chrome to be a badass and only a slightly bit psychotic.
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  Yeah, I would have if we were going.
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  No, I wouldn't wear the hat. Look at that.
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  Basically, Chris wants to be, he wants his arms to be Inspector
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  Gadget arms. Yeah.
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  Swiss Army, Chris. What?
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  What would you get? I think I would be, I would like
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  to be able to run really fast and like they have, they have an
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  option to have like your lungs. Like at one point he gets his
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  lungs reinforced. He would which I think would be
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  good. I do think I would also like the
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  ability to like decide when I take on calories or not.
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  So some sort of stunt like automatic diet stomach where I
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  could just eat whatever I want but not have to worry about my
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  body metabolising stuff would be handy.
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  There are a lot of bigger people in this other.
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  Well, no, but you do have some different body shapes, which I
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  do appreciate because Dorio in it is like a hench lady.
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  Oh Dorio MVP. Oh, don't make that face.
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  I know. Sorry, subconsciously make a
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  face there. Yes, subconsciously my ass.
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  And then I think I'd also, I'd probably want some sort of like
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  net running type implants. I think I I would very quickly
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  be happy to live in a virtual world.
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  I think I'm if I'm running in a, if I'm running in cyberpunk, I'm
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  not running at all. I'm sitting in a ice bath and
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  yeah, doing the brain thing. Would that be my third one?
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  Get files. You can control things
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  electronically. Yeah.
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  Such what you do. Yeah, I'd probably just, I'd
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  spend most of my time probably just fucking fucking with my
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  friends, making life a bit easier for everybody.
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  Which I think will be amazing frozen doors of people's faces
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  just as they get up to it. So.
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  I'd, I'm really like, really like waiting for them to be
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  like, oh, and then as they give up and turn away, then you open
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  again. I did also wonder if like,
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  because you know, there are lots of like physical augmentations
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  that you could have as well. So things like having hair that
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  I could just change colour with a thought or they also have
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  nails. And it LED us down a YouTube
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  thing and Ben found a video of someone who's created like
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  actual photo. Some, I can't remember what
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  they're called, but they're like nails which change color based
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  on an app on your nails. They're like robot nails.
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  They're like tiny little screens, fake screen nails,
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  stuff like that. I would be all over in a
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  cyberpunk world. I'd be like tricking myself out
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  with all the kind of weird fashion bangs.
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  I thought you're going to see I've seen them drinks like you
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  dip in the nails dripping the drinks to see if the spiked.
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  Oh what? On your nails.
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  I think it's like a coat, not something if it does something
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  cheap. That's clever, that's saving
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  lives, that kind of thing. I don't know if it was in the I
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  video though I'm I'm not good enough to tell the difference.
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  Oh yeah, it could be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah would be
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  good. A dream, actually, Lucetta has
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  just put a true dystopian world where my where your dream job is
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  Alexa. I basically do I want to be the
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  Alexa of happy friend group, but I think I might be a bit
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  obstinate. I would be like, like people
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  would be like Phoebe players, players this, you know, play
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  some music and I'd be like, OK, you're going to listen to my
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  music. What, You just open your mouth,
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  the speaker would stop. Yeah.
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  Oh, was it bringing ice? Or might be real.
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  Oh, I think that's a. That's a great invention.
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  Yeah, I draw. Especially my greens.
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  And one or both, but also screens.
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  Can you imagine you could have like little patterns that
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  change? You could have like like you
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  could have like little smiley faces.
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  If you have to tell me, I mean I.
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  Don't know why my nails are horrible and tiny so.
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  Mine are quite long at the moment.
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  They do need cutting because I've I've stopped being able to
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  play musical instruments because they've gotten so long.
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  Stop. Absolutely not savage.
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  So yeah. But also I did realise you are
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  actually legitimately and Cyborg, so between the two of us
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  you are closer to a cyberpunk Night City universe.
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  Oh yeah, than I am, which is cool.
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  I'm shouting at this box at low part.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what was some of that
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  highlights? So we've we've got, we've both
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  you've watched up to episode 910.
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  I've I've watched up to episode 9, I think, which is like the
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  big fight with Maine and Daario. Yeah.
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  Or Daario, Daario, Daario what? Yeah.
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  What have been some of the highlights for you so far is?
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  So in general, I would say that animation, that action scenes,
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  the story. Just good all round and like
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  every episode has been better than the last.
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  Like it builds beautifully. I.
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  Mean even talk about men's fight at the end and you just like,
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  we've got to like sit back and like it's like driving home with
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  a radio off kind of moment where you're like, I'm just going to
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  absorb this and take it in genuinely that from this.
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  I didn't either because I thought it was, oh, this will be
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  just a bit of fun. It's actually quite got some
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  really emotional, strong emotional beats.
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  In fact, Maine because it's a Maine.
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  There's another spoiler that, but if you've come to anime club
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  not expecting spoilers from an anime that was released like
• 28:36
  years ago, then you know it is what it is.
• 28:42
  But so Maine goes cyber psycho and it's the last person that
• 28:47
  you want to go cyber psycho. He's like the rock of the group.
• 28:50
  He's basically the dad. Yeah.
• 28:54
  And he's like taken in. It's like a real hard hitting
• 28:57
  moment for David Martinez, who he's taken in and kind of
• 29:00
  rescued from and given purpose to.
• 29:05
  You also have him going up against the love of his life,
• 29:09
  Daurio. So they're both like, and
• 29:10
  they're both these huge characters having this fight.
• 29:16
  And when it happened, I literally my jaw dropped to the
• 29:19
  floor. I was like, couldn't believe,
• 29:24
  yeah, how that plays out. But they do a really lovely
• 29:27
  thing for me, which I thought was really artful, which is as
• 29:31
  he's going cyber psycho, What? It's not just him losing his
• 29:34
  mind randomly. It's him in a kind of delusional
• 29:40
  state. So he sees everything as a like
• 29:43
  a desert and he's kind of running through.
• 29:50
  Yeah, he's kind of running through like, so the people that
• 29:53
  he's fighting, who are some of them are his friends.
• 29:56
  He doesn't see them as his friends.
• 29:57
  So for him, he's actually acting completely logically in response
• 30:03
  to what he's seeing. It's just that what he's seeing
• 30:05
  isn't real. And never before have I seen
• 30:07
  such a perfect depiction of what it is like to lose your mind
• 30:12
  where you think you are the you think you are responding
• 30:15
  logically. Like I don't think anyone who
• 30:18
  has a kind that kind of breakdown or that kind of
• 30:21
  psychosis knows that they haven't.
• 30:23
  Like they think they're in a world that is real and their
• 30:27
  actions are rational and it's only because their reality is
• 30:33
  altered and different. Have seen it before, the only
• 30:36
  thing I can compare it to is portrayals of dementia and I'll
• 30:40
  say MAS. Yeah, they do do it a bit in
• 30:44
  Death of a Salesman as well, if we're going to get real arty
• 30:46
  with it. Yeah, because one of the.
• 30:50
  Yeah. It was just like, I thought he
• 30:53
  was going back to his like childhood before he was a knight
• 30:58
  city or something. I thought he was like, he's like
• 31:01
  almost like a military past. But it was, yeah, heartbreaking
• 31:09
  right up until the end, right. Because he at 1, so he suddenly
• 31:12
  he realizes he basically shoots the love of his life.
• 31:15
  And then at one point he's like piling up like logs to like
• 31:21
  cremate her body, but it's just chunk.
• 31:24
  It's like a funeral pyre. And even then it's like he's
• 31:27
  just like tossing like chunks of metal and spikes.
• 31:32
  It's just so artful, really is like, it really is For me, that
• 31:38
  was one of the highlights. And I feel like every episode
• 31:41
  had a moment where I was like, oh, that's really clever the way
• 31:44
  they've done that. It's just really artful.
• 31:46
  And the game kind of has that as well.
• 31:47
  Like, the game has a lot of detail to it, even down to the
• 31:51
  fact that all the missions are named after songs, because
• 31:54
  obviously you've got Johnny Silverhand in your head who is
• 31:57
  like a former rock star. Like there is a level of world
• 32:02
  building and attention to detail, and Cyberpunk
• 32:05
  edgerunners take it to a next level, I think, than the game.
• 32:11
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely reliveable.
• 32:16
  Do a game. Format.
• 32:19
  Basically, that's basically what this anime is.
• 32:23
  So now I really loved it. It's so good and I will be
• 32:27
  finishing it. It makes it makes me want to
• 32:30
  play the game again because it does to know and adds more
• 32:35
  depths to it. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:40
  And actually they've. So this is what Ben was telling
• 32:43
  me earlier because we were. So there's a, there's a scene
• 32:47
  where you're like in the start, it like the apartment that you
• 32:50
  started in in Night City. And just like he was just like,
• 32:55
  oh, I'm just going to leave, leave the flat.
• 32:56
  And he for the first time ever went upstairs and he was like,
• 32:59
  Oh, I've never been up here before.
• 33:01
  And then he came across a door with an eviction notice on it.
• 33:04
  And we were like, is that supposed to be David Martinez's
• 33:08
  apartment? And apparently they did a lot of
• 33:10
  tie insurance. Like after the anime was
• 33:12
  released, they did a lot of tie insurance to like to the game.
• 33:17
  So I think if you've, I think it's one of those things where
• 33:20
  if you're a fan of the game and then you go and watch the anime,
• 33:24
  it adds a new appreciation to the game as well.
• 33:29
  Having that kind of detail is amazing.
• 33:31
  And you do see the occasional character pop up who is in the
• 33:34
  anime, which is awesome. But have you noticed any of the
• 33:39
  characters in the anime from the game?
• 33:43
  Yeah, yeah. So there's one I forget what
• 33:45
  she's called. I'm obsessed with her.
• 33:47
  I keep calling her. See, this is the problem.
• 33:49
  I can't remember her actual name.
• 33:51
  I call her Mummy because she gives me Helen Mirren vibes in
• 33:57
  the game. But she's like one of their sort
• 33:59
  of information broker type characters and she appears in
• 34:04
  the anime. And when she pops up, Ben
• 34:06
  pointed it out and I was like, oh, mummy.
• 34:10
  Is that the very weird Chinese gun?
• 34:14
  No, but Takamura is also appears or is mentioned in the anime and
• 34:22
  Takamura is the the guy rogue. That's it.
• 34:26
  Thank you. Jackson Wolf Studios Rogue
• 34:28
  appears. Because I know what Jacksonville
• 34:32
  studio might know this, but there's a guy that you have to
• 34:35
  fight in the game that is an absolute tank and he's
• 34:39
  referenced in the next episode. Nice.
• 34:44
  Oh, I look forward to seeing that.
• 34:47
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of the fights in the game
• 34:49
  are very tough. And it makes me pleased that I
• 34:51
  get to just sit back and watch the story bits of it, because I
• 34:54
  think if I was left alone with the game, I would have raged
• 34:57
  quit it a long time ago. But luckily Ben is a much better
• 35:02
  game than I have. That's nice.
• 35:08
  Yeah. So we've posted like they
• 35:10
  completely like blows blew us both out of the water.
• 35:14
  Like I think maybe the best thing I've watched all year so
• 35:16
  far for anime Club. Say it's a giant.
• 35:20
  Probably, yeah. 30th January, ending January on a high.
• 35:28
  What are we going? Well, actually first of all, we
• 35:32
  have, we have, we have done a challenge this week.
• 35:39
  So we're going to decide who gets to pick the next anime
• 35:44
  which was based on it, which was monster anime was your category.
• 35:48
  Yes. Yeah and we did a challenge
• 35:52
  which our friendly long time friend of Anime Club and your Co
• 35:58
  host in Straw Trap and the Christopher Lee podcast do.
• 36:05
  You wish she was there. Very kindly adjudicated for us,
• 36:10
  which was a how many Jelly beans are in this jar?
• 36:13
  So do you want to roll the tape, Chris?
• 36:17
  Yeah. I'll just put it though.
• 36:24
  Right, so beans, how many Jelly beans do you think are in this
• 36:30
  jar? I'll give it a little twirl for
• 36:31
  you. You could have about 10 seconds
• 36:33
  to just have a quick look. Turn it up, I want to see the
• 36:36
  bottom. Right.
• 36:38
  Right. Just sink, OK?
• 36:40
  I think it it's 2:50. 250, it's actually 800 and.
• 36:48
  Nine. I was.
• 36:49
  So how did you work that out? Did you sit and count them all
• 36:54
  out? Sand individually counted every
• 36:56
  single Jelly Bean. OK, so.
• 36:58
  Right. Thank you for that.
• 36:59
  I was way off. No worries, sorry, Chris, might
• 37:02
  be as well. Right.
• 37:04
  Jelly beans. Jelly beans.
• 37:05
  Jelly beans, right? How many Jelly beans are in this
• 37:08
  jar? I'm going to give it a 12, just
• 37:10
  like I did with Thebes. And Thebes asked if she could
• 37:13
  see the bottom as well. I don't care about the bump, but
• 37:17
  I'm going to guess 783. Right, OK.
• 37:25
  And the actual number of Jelly beans is 891.
• 37:32
  Did you count all them? I did.
• 37:33
  I counted them all individually. The thieves also have my same
• 37:37
  question. We don't know who's closest to
• 37:39
  it. We're not going to say.
• 37:40
  No, it will get revealed when there's one that revealed.
• 37:44
  When they wouldn't look off this call, say, I cannot believe you
• 37:48
  guessed the exact number, Chris. OK.
• 37:52
  Right, right, right, right, right.
• 37:56
  No, but OK, thanks for that. See you there, right?
• 38:03
  Well done. Well, just like I was like, can
• 38:05
  we just talk about how much I think Jelly beans are?
• 38:08
  Like how much capacity I think Jelly beans take up?
• 38:11
  There was part of me that crossed my mind where I was
• 38:13
  like, has Lee put like a century egg or something in the middle
• 38:16
  of this jar to like take up space?
• 38:20
  Which is why I asked to see the bottom of the jar.
• 38:22
  I wanted to see if I could see like if it was pure Jelly beans
• 38:26
  or not, but it was pure Jelly beans and I was way, way off.
• 38:29
  So well done Chris. What are we going to be watching
• 38:31
  next week? Did you want us to explain me
• 38:35
  thinking before I? Oh yeah, How did you get so
• 38:38
  close? So right, I knew that this was
• 38:42
  filmed before Nice Payday and he'd been complaining that he
• 38:45
  was skint. So I checked Amazon or Jelly
• 38:51
  beans and I was like I know kilo goes for about a tenner, it's
• 38:55
  like that. That's about the right amounts
• 38:57
  he would pull for and then up. Then I googled how many Jelly
• 39:03
  beans are in a kilo and it's about anywhere from 900 to 1000.
• 39:08
  That's and some serious detective work.
• 39:13
  I'm actually I'm not even mad because I just pulled a number
• 39:16
  out my back. We'll put it on Instagram.
• 39:21
  Someone get about 1200 oh guest in the lower hundreds.
• 39:29
  So he was. OK, so he was, he was like in
• 39:32
  the same camp as me of like that feels like a lot of Jelly beans.
• 39:36
  He was in the same camp as you. As in, he was wrong.
• 39:39
  But yeah. Yeah.
• 39:42
  Yeah, So what we watching next week, then?
• 39:46
  Oh, Mr. Right, Mr. Reed Actually we are watching the faraway
• 39:55
  Paladin so but. You said not seen that one.
• 40:01
  It's a it's an izikai. I've never seen a 2 either.
• 40:04
  I'm obviously trying something new.
• 40:06
  It's an izikai where a child is born and gets transported to
• 40:11
  another world and gets raised by a mummy, a skeleton and someone
• 40:16
  else. And it's all about his journey
• 40:19
  to become a paladin. And that's all the research I've
• 40:21
  done. Nice, Please.
• 40:24
  OK. Into it hits our rules that it's
• 40:26
  not a horror man to me and it's not any underage stuff and then.
• 40:33
  Yeah, yeah. Perfect.
• 40:36
  OK. The fire, we're Paladin.
• 40:37
  I look forward to it. And then the week after, we'll
• 40:39
  figure out what our challenge will be soon.
• 40:41
  I'm on a second Jackson Wolf studio is saying that's
• 40:46
  cheating. I'm sorry, just revising for a
• 40:48
  test cover is cheap as well. Chris is when we did the Marble
• 40:56
  Run challenge right at the beginning, we did have to keep
• 41:01
  you honest. I'm willing to say that you
• 41:04
  used, you used what you knew about Lee to to enhance your
• 41:09
  guests. I don't think that's cheating.
• 41:10
  It is revising and I'm just impressed that you put that much
• 41:15
  thought into it because that's not something I would have
• 41:18
  expected but. Just don't like losing.
• 41:22
  But I did think that we were both coming to it cold.
• 41:25
  So I also have a bit because I didn't even know we were going
• 41:27
  to be doing it until I was called, pulled into a call.
• 41:32
  Yeah, yeah. Which is why I looked tired and
• 41:35
  angry. That's fine.
• 41:40
  I think that I think that is more cheating.
• 41:43
  It's the fact that you sprung it on me.
• 41:49
  You deliberately put me at a disadvantage, but that's fine.
• 41:53
  So the week after, because it's my consolation prize, is I get
• 41:56
  to then pick the the theme, right?
• 42:00
  So I would like to pick unusual animation styles.
• 42:03
  So an anime that has an animation style that is not like
• 42:07
  anything else is my theme. It's not technically a genre,
• 42:13
  but that's what I'm going for. And does anything spring out
• 42:18
  straight away? So I have two that I might
• 42:21
  decide, but I don't know yet. I'm going to do a bit of
• 42:23
  research I think and see because I've seen both of these, which
• 42:27
  is there's Mononoke, which has a very kind of like almost like
• 42:35
  paper collage animation style to it.
• 42:38
  And then there's a film called Tekonking Crete, which is real
• 42:43
  weird. Tekonking Crete.
• 42:46
  Tekonking Crete which is real weird but an absolute is, is a
• 42:55
  very fun film and I haven't seen it for a very long time, but I
• 42:58
  have seen it before. So I want to try and find
• 43:00
  something that neither of us have seen, but if I can't I'll
• 43:06
  pick one of them. It's interesting because it'll
• 43:09
  be like be on the verge of what you can class this anatomy as
• 43:14
  well. It will be, yeah, it will be.
• 43:17
  We might have. We might have some a
• 43:18
  controversial winner, but we're here to push boundaries, Chris.
• 43:25
  Anime is nothing if not serious. Life is hot.
• 43:32
  Life is our art, able to hit life.
• 43:34
  Sometimes life is strange. Not weirdly.
• 43:36
  The first thing I popped in my head was there's a Pokémon
• 43:40
  series where the it's all this, but all of the characters are
• 43:44
  made of felt. Pokémon Concierge.
• 43:48
  My son absolutely loves it. It's so lovely.
• 43:54
  I'm so glad Finn, he's into it. It's absolutely delightful.
• 43:59
  I'd allow that Relacuma. Same animation style as Relacma.
• 44:04
  I think it's made by the same people, which is about a woman
• 44:08
  who adopts a giant cuddly bear and a little bear and a little
• 44:15
  bird. And you have suggested.
• 44:18
  The I because I think Finley will love it and it's cosy as
• 44:22
  hell. It's quite a calm one as well,
• 44:24
  so it's a good one for maybe just before bed.
• 44:27
  I'm going to try to not do a calm one new series of Berserk.
• 44:37
  Nice. So any last thoughts before we
• 44:39
  close off? And I'm really glad that I gave
• 44:42
  well, you suggested this because it would have to be bossed over
• 44:46
  it. I've played the game Cyberpunk
• 44:48
  2077. I loved it.
• 44:51
  And and it was at that stage where I was right.
• 44:55
  That's at the pasta. I'm not going to play that
• 44:57
  anymore and I I wouldn't have gave this chance a chance if he
• 45:02
  didn't suggest that. Nice.
• 45:05
  And that's, that's what's quite fun about having this new system
• 45:09
  that we have where it's kind of like a chance to actually just
• 45:14
  like really suggest the the things that you think otherwise
• 45:17
  we might veto if someone else had a choice.
• 45:21
  Yeah, I mean wouldn't need fear if it has disturbed stuff in it.
• 45:27
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. In which case, that's totally
• 45:29
  fine to be. We're not going to.
• 45:31
  I'd never make you watch something like that.
• 45:34
  Although this does have a lot of tips.
• 45:36
  That's the last thing I want to say.
• 45:39
  I think that's a plus. Blue nips, blue nips, blue nips.
• 45:44
  Chips. Catch you next week.
• 45:46
  Bye everyone.