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Our One-Day Whirlwind Trip To Chicago - Part 1 · I Hate Talking

• 0:29
  I Hate Talking: Welcome to episode 70 of I Hate Talking.
• 0:33
  I Hate Talking: Hi everyone.
• 0:34
  I Hate Talking: So we'll jump right into our word or phrase of the episode, and that word is flabbergast.
• 0:40
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 0:41
  I Hate Talking: So this was a word that I used probably I guess 2 episodes ago when we were talking about the Coldplay incident, which I guess is pretty much fallen off of the news cycle now.
• 0:53
  I Hate Talking: I here here and there, but mostly it's people making fun of it still.
• 0:58
  I Hate Talking: There you go.
• 1:00
  I Hate Talking: So, in the description of the events that I saw transpire in the video, I referred to the woman as flabbergasted and thought it would be a fun one to talk about and see what the official definition is, as well as the etymology.
• 1:19
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, OK.
• 1:20
  I Hate Talking: So flabbergast in the way that I would use it or interpret it if somebody used it would be a person.
• 1:27
  I Hate Talking: That is in a state of shock, almost to the point of non-response, and that would be accompanied with certain facial expressions to indicate that shock or some sort of verbal response where maybe they are too surprised to even respond.
• 1:46
  I Hate Talking: So that's my off the cuff definition.
• 1:50
  I Hate Talking: I don't know if you have anything to add to that before we look up the official definition.
• 1:54
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I know, that's very similar to what I had in my mind.
• 1:57
  I Hate Talking: The question I have is, I've always heard it as flabbergasted.
• 2:01
  I Hate Talking: And initially you called it flabbergast.
• 2:04
  I Hate Talking: Is there the word flabbergast, or is it always flabbergasted?
• 2:09
  I Hate Talking: Well, I would assume that it could be used as a noun and a verb and maybe even an adjective, but I guess we'll find out.
• 2:15
  I Hate Talking: So from our favorite Oxford language dictionary, flabbergast in terms of the verb usage is surprise and typically used in reference to a person to surprise someone greatly or astonish.
• 2:35
  I Hate Talking: So that is the simple definition.
• 2:39
  I Hate Talking: It actually doesn't really give much more definition than that.
• 2:43
  I Hate Talking: And it can be used as a past participle in terms of flabbergasted.
• 2:51
  I Hate Talking: So all the different things that you can do there with such words, flabbergasting or if just using it alone as a verb, flabbergast.
• 3:03
  I Hate Talking: Are the words broken up anyway?
• 3:06
  I Hate Talking: I'm like, I don't know what the word flabber means or the word dastard.
• 3:10
  I Hate Talking: Are they two like, is it compound word?
• 3:13
  I Hate Talking: Well, suppose we'll get into that with the etymology, but for those that are simply listening and do not have the ability right now, perhaps because you are driving or doing other activities, the spelling of this is F L A B B E R G A S T.
• 3:32
  I Hate Talking: So it does seem like perhaps it is the combination of flabber and gast, but as I was spelling it, I actually think I typed it wrong because I was thinking that it would be similar to the word aghast.
• 3:47
  I Hate Talking: Where that is actually spelled with a H in between the G and the A, so A G H A S T, which is defined as filled with horror or shock.
• 4:01
  I Hate Talking: So I would have assumed that flabbergast was actually with a G H A S T at the end, but it is actually simply G A S T.
• 4:11
  I Hate Talking: OK, hm.
• 4:12
  I Hate Talking: But what is the word GAST spell?
• 4:15
  I Hate Talking: Like what is that, is that a word?
• 4:17
  I Hate Talking: So according to Google, it is an archaic word or even described here as an obsolete verb meaning to scare or frighten.
• 4:29
  I Hate Talking: OK, I mean, very similar.
• 4:31
  I Hate Talking: Is it the same word, just a different spelling then, like the English version versus the American version?
• 4:38
  I Hate Talking: No, it looks like it's always been used in such a way that it doesn't really matter if it was a European or American.
• 4:47
  I Hate Talking: Usage that it is simply obsolete now in terms of GAST as a standalone word.
• 4:53
  I Hate Talking: So I guess perhaps we can compare and contrast the word aghast with the H versus flabbergast and see if there's any overlap in the etymology.
• 5:06
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 5:07
  I Hate Talking: So we'll start with Aghast, and that came from late Middle English and was a form that came from gast, just G A S T, which came from old English gain, which was probably influenced according to this brief research here by the word ghost, G H O S T.
• 5:34
  I Hate Talking: And it really seems to have originated in the English for aghast.
• 5:40
  I Hate Talking: Nothing -- really in reference to any Greek or Latin roots -- here.
• 5:45
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 5:46
  I Hate Talking: It reminds me of like in Minecraft, it's not uh a gas, but it is a ghast, is a character like a mob in Minecraft, that is like a white ghost.
• 5:58
  I Hate Talking: And I'm sure that's where they got that from as well.
• 6:02
  I Hate Talking: So in terms of our official word of the episode, flabbergast, that etymology says that it is uncertain from where it came from.
• 6:13
  I Hate Talking: But it basically does theorize that the last part of that word, gast did come from the root word.
• 6:25
  I Hate Talking: Gassed and gain in the old English that later became used as the hat with the GH and there is a little bit of information here that says the GH probably was some overlap from some Irish dialects where that GH would be more present in terms of making sure that it was pronounced correctly from the different words and spellings, I suppose.
• 6:52
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 6:52
  I Hate Talking: So I was almost on the right path with Irish, I said English, but.
• 6:57
  I Hate Talking: I should have said OK?
• 6:59
  I Hate Talking: Are you allowed to say the Irish are you gay?
• 7:02
  I Hate Talking: I guess I don't know.
• 7:03
  I Hate Talking: I don't know.
• 7:04
  I Hate Talking: I guess some people might be offended by that because not all of it is.
• 7:08
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 7:09
  I Hate Talking: So there's less information and alignment on the term flabber and where that comes from.
• 7:17
  I Hate Talking: There are some theories that state that it comes from flabby or flap because when somebody is flabbergast.
• 7:26
  I Hate Talking: Or flabbergasted, they will be in a state of shock and trembling and not be able to stay still.
• 7:33
  I Hate Talking: And there's also a Scottish word and this actually makes more sense to me, just given the history that we talked about in terms of gast and aghast that it came from a Scottish word, flabbergast, which means to boast or to be worn out with exertion.
• 7:51
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 7:52
  I Hate Talking: And the first appearance of this word in print was according to this research in 1772 that actually complained about new and unsophisticated words such as flabbergast.
• 8:06
  I Hate Talking: That's funny.
• 8:07
  I Hate Talking: Is it a word you hear nowadays?
• 8:10
  I Hate Talking: I feel like I only hear it when someone's being ironic or like hyperbolic.
• 8:16
  I Hate Talking: That is typically how I will hear it uses when it all.
• 8:20
  I Hate Talking: So, that is a bit of the meaning and etymology of flabbergast, but don't really have a whole bunch of definitive etymology and history on this one.
• 8:33
  I Hate Talking: So a lot of theories, but I think the main two are the flabby or the Scottish word for meaning to boast or to be worn out with exertion.
• 8:47
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 8:47
  I Hate Talking: So not only did we use that word a couple of episodes ago when we were describing the woman's state of shock and speechlessness and all that when confronted with this particular situation at the Coldplay concert, but people were also flabbergasted when we told them that we were taking a one day trip to Chicago.
• 9:11
  I Hate Talking: Yeah.
• 9:12
  I Hate Talking: One of my kids' teachers didn't believe us.
• 9:16
  I Hate Talking: She asked me afterwards and was like, I thought that was like a tail or a yarn he was telling me.
• 9:23
  I Hate Talking: I was like, no, we, we did.
• 9:25
  I Hate Talking: Yes, so we did actually do that.
• 9:27
  I Hate Talking: We do not live in the Chicago metro area, so the trip did entail taking a flight from our hometown direct at least, so we didn't have any connections that we had to do into Chicago Midway.
• 9:43
  I Hate Talking: And the genesis for this particular trip was because we stayed locally for our spring break while others at the kids' schools and other friends went to somewhere, so that was one of the reasons that we were looking for somewhere.
• 10:01
  I Hate Talking: Beyond our normal range that we would typically visit with just driving distance in a day to find something further out and more quote unquote exotic.
• 10:14
  I Hate Talking: And then also there was a particular airline that had a sale and essentially the round trip tickets were like $30 total.
• 10:22
  I Hate Talking: Yeah.
• 10:23
  I Hate Talking: I was, so it was an easy like, let's do this.
• 10:26
  I Hate Talking: It's relatively inexpensive because of that sale.
• 10:30
  I Hate Talking: And uh we talked about spending the night, but hotels are expensive, especially for a larger size families.
• 10:37
  I Hate Talking: So we took off at like early morning, like, we left our house before 3 a.m. around then.
• 10:44
  I Hate Talking: And we returned about midnight.
• 10:46
  I Hate Talking: And so, right?
• 10:48
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I think that sounds about right.
• 10:50
  I Hate Talking: I think our departure time was 5-15 a.m. from our home airport with our direct flight into Midway, and then, yes, our return flight was something like 9-45 I think.
• 11:04
  I Hate Talking: We, yeah, from Chicago.
• 11:05
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, we pulled up at our house and it was like 12-02.
• 11:09
  I Hate Talking: cause you were so bummed, like, you wanted to say we did it in one day, and we were 2 minutes later than an actual day.
• 11:18
  I Hate Talking: Yes, it was still less than 24 hour period that we were traveling or on the move for nearly 21 hours, I guess, of the 24 hour period, but it was not contained within the same calendar date, but almost made it by 2 minutes.
• 11:35
  I Hate Talking: We did so much.
• 11:37
  I Hate Talking: Like, I feel like we did almost everything we wanted to do in Chicago.
• 11:40
  I Hate Talking: There were a few things that were on our list and we'll probably get into that, that we didn't get to do.
• 11:44
  I Hate Talking: But overall, it was great and we slept on the airplanes and the kids slept often.
• 11:50
  I Hate Talking: We rented a car for that day.
• 11:52
  I Hate Talking: And they fell asleep often.
• 11:54
  I Hate Talking: Once we got in the car to drive to the next destination, they'd wake up and we just kept going.
• 11:59
  I Hate Talking: Yes, so we did have a rental car, that was one of the things that we did add on later because initially we're trying to see if we could do this with public transport, but since we were not spending the night anywhere, we decided that we could have a rental car and then be in command of our own routes and timetables as well as sort of have a home-based uh store some of the light things that we were Traveling with so that we didn't have to have backpacks similar to our New York trip.
• 12:31
  I Hate Talking: We were able to take a few things that were essential on the airplane and then leave those in the rental car while we visited various attractions.
• 12:40
  I Hate Talking: So, some places say no backpacks and large bags, so then we would have had a hard time if we had Ubered or something.
• 12:48
  I Hate Talking: Not only do we have a hard time because some of our kids need car seats still, we'll be tracking those around.
• 12:54
  I Hate Talking: But also, we wouldn't be able to go to those locations with a backpack.
• 12:58
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 13:00
  I Hate Talking: So I think for the remainder of this episode, we will just recap sort of all the different things that we did in this whirlwind of a trip to Chicago and we'll see if you, our listeners are flabbergasted at the end that we did all this in one single day.
• 13:15
  I Hate Talking: -- Or if -- it sounds fun and you want to do it, let us know.
• 13:19
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 13:19
  I Hate Talking: It was fun.
• 13:20
  I Hate Talking: It was a lot of work.
• 13:21
  I Hate Talking: Would you do it again?
• 13:23
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I would probably do it again.
• 13:26
  I Hate Talking: I think the trip was not without its hardships, but when you're traveling with 4 small children, any sort of travel has some sort of unexpected thing or whatever the case may be, so.
• 13:41
  I Hate Talking: I think I would do it again.
• 13:44
  I Hate Talking: What about you?
• 13:44
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I would definitely do it again.
• 13:46
  I Hate Talking: And it's not too dissimilar from things that we have done in our past, even before kids, where like I would come out and take red-eye flights to visit you in California or vice versa, or like fly directly from a work location in the previous work life where I did more travel or some of the trips that we've done just as a couple or our New York trip that was not all that long ago that we also have a podcast episode about.
• 14:13
  I Hate Talking: Yeah.
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  I Hate Talking: So like we said, this particular trip began at around 2-45 a.m.
• 14:22
  I Hate Talking: and that is when we woke up and loaded everybody up into our personal vehicle and drove to our local airport.
• 14:29
  I Hate Talking: With sufficient time to go through security and make sure we had any particular water bottle refills and bathroom breaks and be ready for our boarding time, which is at 4-45 a.m. in order to have our 5-15 a.m. departure.
• 14:48
  I Hate Talking: Now remind me, was one of our kids was having a hard time passing through security?
• 14:54
  I Hate Talking: Was that on the way there or on the way back?
• 14:56
  I Hate Talking: I can't remember.
• 14:58
  I Hate Talking: Do you remember what I'm talking about though?
• 14:59
  I Hate Talking: Not precisely.
• 15:01
  I Hate Talking: It wasn't a big deal, but he was trying to hold back tears.
• 15:05
  I Hate Talking: He was getting really frazzled.
• 15:06
  I Hate Talking: Young children, they have him go through the metal detector instead of the full scan.
• 15:11
  I Hate Talking: And he had his hands in his pockets, and I guess that was setting off the metal detector.
• 15:17
  I Hate Talking: They had him back up, and try again and went off again, and they had to back up.
• 15:22
  I Hate Talking: And he was like holding back tears.
• 15:25
  I Hate Talking: He was checking his pocket again and everything, and then I think they realized like, keep your hands out of your pockets.
• 15:31
  I Hate Talking: And he walked through and it was fine.
• 15:34
  I Hate Talking: But I felt bad for him because it was like a hard start to like, He was getting really overwhelmed and nervous that he wasn't going to pass security.
• 15:41
  I Hate Talking: Yes, I think that did happen on the departure from our hometown.
• 15:46
  I Hate Talking: So I do recall that specific thing now where that particular kid was holding his hands within his pockets going through the metal detector and it wasn't setting off the metal detector, but it is a security procedure that TSA is following that you're not allowed to do that because theoretically you could be holding something metallic in your hand.
• 16:06
  I Hate Talking: Inside your pocket and because your hand is covering it, it actually will not be picked up by the metal detector.
• 16:14
  I Hate Talking: So they are just following their policy and procedure.
• 16:16
  I Hate Talking: I didn't know that and they were so polite.
• 16:18
  I Hate Talking: They were so kind with him.
• 16:19
  I Hate Talking: It wasn't like they were being rude.
• 16:21
  I Hate Talking: I don't want to say make anyone think that at all.
• 16:24
  I Hate Talking: They were very kind.
• 16:25
  I Hate Talking: He was getting very frazzled and I felt so bad for him.
• 16:29
  I Hate Talking: Well, there you go, that's also must be why it was the origination because I don't know if people would have been that plate in Chicago.
• 16:38
  I Hate Talking: That's right.
• 16:40
  I Hate Talking: We had family visit recently and they were like, y'all are so nice.
• 16:43
  I Hate Talking: I was like, I know we are.
• 16:44
  I Hate Talking: So we did our various things to get ready for the flight and then boarded that flight and I think it was pretty uneventful flight.
• 16:55
  I Hate Talking: I think some of the kids did enjoy sitting next to the window and being able to see the early morning light that was present at this early departure time and then like you said, I think most of them slept.
• 17:10
  I Hate Talking: I think I myself slept.
• 17:11
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, we got to see the sunrise, and yeah, everyone now, I didn't, I'm such an early morning person.
• 17:17
  I Hate Talking: When I'm awake, I'm awake.
• 17:19
  I Hate Talking: So I slept on the way home cause I'm not a night person.
• 17:23
  I Hate Talking: But yeah, I was just wide awake and enjoying the quiet.
• 17:26
  I Hate Talking: So that was it for that, right?
• 17:28
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I think a relatively uneventful flight and then landed in Chicago midway.
• 17:34
  I Hate Talking: Which I think was perhaps my first time in Chicago Midway because I have traveled quite a bit in my past and would always go into O'Hare.
• 17:42
  I Hate Talking: So, Midway was a nice little airport.
• 17:44
  I Hate Talking: It is much smaller than O'Hare, less busy, a little bit easier to get around.
• 17:49
  I Hate Talking: But you still have to take the shuttle to the rental car facility.
• 17:54
  I Hate Talking: So we did that and got our van that we used for the duration of the trip, then began our tour of the Chicago area.
• 18:04
  I Hate Talking: I think by that time everybody was a little bit hungry, so we did find a diner and had some quote unquote home cooked meals and I think the food was pretty good.
• 18:13
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, it was really good.
• 18:14
  I Hate Talking: I was a little bummed because we let the kids each get milk.
• 18:17
  I Hate Talking: I naively think about like when you order from a kid's menu.
• 18:21
  I Hate Talking: Uh, you know, usually it comes with a drink.
• 18:25
  I Hate Talking: That's why we got the milk, cause normally we get water only.
• 18:28
  I Hate Talking: Uh, the milks were $4 each, and that was, that hurt.
• 18:33
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 18:35
  I Hate Talking: And you, I paid the bill when you saw it after you questioned it, and I was like, we paid $16 for milk.
• 18:42
  I Hate Talking: It was a very expensive milk.
• 18:45
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, but the food was good and that was a nice experience, but I told the kids water only from then on out.
• 18:52
  I Hate Talking: We were done.
• 18:52
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 18:53
  I Hate Talking: So from there, we then proceeded to a Japanese garden.
• 19:00
  I Hate Talking: And I believe it's called Garden of the Phoenix was the exact name, and we visited that in the early morning hours, and there was a few other people there, but this was a weekday, so not very busy as well as the fact that it was during working hours, but there are a few other people there visiting the Garden of the Phoenix, but we had a nice time just walking around that area and that's where we saw that very strange building.
• 19:26
  I Hate Talking: I don't even know if you know what that building is.
• 19:29
  I Hate Talking: No, I know you were really bothered by it.
• 19:32
  I Hate Talking: Like you kept being like, what is this building that they were building across the lake from us?
• 19:37
  I Hate Talking: Is that a lake or a river?
• 19:39
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, some sort of body of water.
• 19:42
  I Hate Talking: I'm not sure there was a lake on the garden side, but I think that was a river that was between the building and the garden.
• 19:49
  I Hate Talking: So we'll have to put on Instagram a link in the picture because it sort of just looks like a villain's layer from like a Bond movie or something is how I would describe it.
• 20:00
  I Hate Talking: And I looked it up afterwards.
• 20:03
  I Hate Talking: It's actually President Obama's like presidential.
• 20:07
  I Hate Talking: Legacy building -- for the college or -- for just like his presidential legacy that he's building, I guess I have to look up the exact name of it is.
• 20:17
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, it's interesting because it just looks so smooth.
• 20:21
  I Hate Talking: Like there's not windows or corners.
• 20:24
  I Hate Talking: It's just like this slick a frame almost building.
• 20:28
  I Hate Talking: Or rectangle, I guess, it's not necessarily a frame, but it's, it doesn't look like anything that is like natural or even standard in terms -- of -- you're saying President Obama owns this building or his foundation or whatever, yes.
• 20:43
  I Hate Talking: What are they doing with it?
• 20:44
  I Hate Talking: I think it'd be used for various meetings.
• 20:48
  I Hate Talking: Is he from Chicago?
• 20:49
  I Hate Talking: Chicago, so that is, yes, why?
• 20:52
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, he has that like entertainment company now and stuff, right?
• 20:56
  I Hate Talking: I suppose so.
• 20:57
  I Hate Talking: It is called the Obama Presidential Center.
• 21:00
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 21:01
  I Hate Talking: No other information about what they actually do there?
• 21:06
  I Hate Talking: Well, they don't do anything there because it's still under construction, but according to the website skyscrapercenter.com, it is going to be used as a museum.
• 21:18
  I Hate Talking: For President Obama?
• 21:21
  I Hate Talking: No, I don't know.
• 21:22
  I Hate Talking: And it is owned by the Obama Foundation.
• 21:26
  I Hate Talking: I mean, it's a really cool looking building.
• 21:28
  I Hate Talking: I disagree.
• 21:29
  I Hate Talking: -- I think it -- looks.
• 21:30
  I Hate Talking: Very unnatural and almost.
• 21:33
  I Hate Talking: Distasteful.
• 21:35
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 21:36
  I Hate Talking: Uh.
• 21:37
  I Hate Talking: I get what you're saying about the Bond villains, cause it definitely feels like that, like the top would pop open, so vehicles could fly out or something.
• 21:47
  I Hate Talking: Yes, I did see a quote from somebody on X.
• 21:51
  I Hate Talking: I have no idea who this is, but Cliff Sims says about this building, this is hideous and a reminder that noble ideas produce beauty and evil ideas produce ugliness.
• 22:02
  I Hate Talking: Oh.
• 22:03
  I Hate Talking: So, I think he's in the same boat that he finds the building sort of repulsive.
• 22:09
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 22:10
  I Hate Talking: Anyway, a bit of a sidetrack there, but after the Phoenix Garden or Garden of the Phoenix rather, then we went to the Ancient History Museum, is that our next stop?
• 22:23
  I Hate Talking: So this particular museum is, I guess on the premise or very adjacent to one of the universities in Chicago.
• 22:33
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I think it's on campus there, and it's a beautiful campus, and we parked on the street, and it's all street parking.
• 22:43
  I Hate Talking: And I was pretty excited that we got a good parking spot.
• 22:48
  I Hate Talking: And one of our kids was sleeping in the car, so you took the other kids, started walking, and I was waking him up because he was sleeping, didn't want to wake up.
• 22:59
  I Hate Talking: So we just start following you and I start realizing, where the heck are we going?
• 23:03
  I Hate Talking: This is so far away.
• 23:04
  I Hate Talking: And I think it was on drive, not walk.
• 23:08
  I Hate Talking: But they took us on the whole tour of the college.
• 23:11
  I Hate Talking: We should have only walked 0.2 miles, and instead, we walked 1.1, I think it's like, so about a mile extra.
• 23:18
  I Hate Talking: It was really hot and that was probably the most bummer grumpy moment that we had the whole trip.
• 23:25
  I Hate Talking: The kids were tired of walking.
• 23:28
  I Hate Talking: It was really hot and it's just like this never-ending loop.
• 23:33
  I Hate Talking: And so finally, I just told you, you just need to turn here and keep walking.
• 23:37
  I Hate Talking: And then we found it.
• 23:39
  I Hate Talking: We did.
• 23:40
  I Hate Talking: And like you said, I think the GPS that I was following must have been on drive mode because it was a one-way street that we would have walked the opposite way of traffic, but if you're driving, you couldn't go that way, so it was routing us the entire way around some of the college campus there.
• 23:54
  I Hate Talking: Yeah.
• 23:55
  I Hate Talking: So, yeah, we got a great tour.
• 23:57
  I Hate Talking: It was beautiful.
• 23:58
  I Hate Talking: Some of the buildings look like castles or whatnot reminded me of it.
• 24:02
  I Hate Talking: So, I took pictures.
• 24:03
  I Hate Talking: But by the time we got to the museum, a couple of the kids were very grumpy and hot and needed to use the restroom, and then there's no restroom there.
• 24:14
  I Hate Talking: So it was a rough start to the museum.
• 24:16
  I Hate Talking: But we did find a restroom and I don't know if you visited those restrooms, but it was like a quote unquote construction restroom because the construction site guy overheard us and kindly told us where we could go.
• 24:30
  I Hate Talking: Yes, so, and it was not a quote unquote construction site restroom.
• 24:34
  I Hate Talking: We were not using the restroom that the construction workers were using.
• 24:37
  I Hate Talking: We were using restrooms that were set up temporarily while the restrooms were under construction inside the building.
• 24:43
  I Hate Talking: Oh, OK.
• 24:44
  I Hate Talking: I thought that these were his restrooms.
• 24:46
  I Hate Talking: I don't know if the construction workers use them or not, but these were actually specifically installed for the public to use while the other ones were, it was like the Taj Mahal of porta potties.
• 24:57
  I Hate Talking: So we'll end this episode here for part one of our Chicago trip, and you can tune in next time to hear the exciting description of this porta potty, as well as the conclusion of our trip to Chicago.
• 25:15
  I Hate Talking: So, from your friends at IH Talking, until next time, remember, it is only through talking that we begin the journey to understanding.