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The best laid plans of UN Women | HBR Talk 377 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Our society, our whole world population teaches women and girls
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  Speaker 1: that the absolute worst thing that can ever happen to
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  Speaker 1: you in your whole life, worse than death, is being raped.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm here to tell you it does suck. It
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  Speaker 1: is awful. It is a horrible experience. It's humiliating and
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  Speaker 1: painful and can be scary as how depending on what
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  Speaker 1: the details are. Like somebody is violent toward you or
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  Speaker 1: uses a weapon. That's terrifying, and you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: afraid to admit that it's it's terrifying enough. They can
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  Speaker 1: be paralyzing, right because you're afraid you might die, not
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  Speaker 1: just because you're afraid they're going to force intimacy on you.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're afraid you might die.
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  Speaker 3: For two chuculate. This is Honey Badger Radio Radio.
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  Speaker 1: With Hello and welcome to HBr Talk three seventy seven
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  Speaker 1: The Best Laid Plans of You and Women. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Wallen here with Mike Stevenson, Doctor Randomercam. The personification
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  Speaker 1: of perceptivity, and we will be looking at you and
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  Speaker 1: women again. Obviously they're they're article on how to counter
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  Speaker 1: the Manisphere's toxic influence. We started this last week. We
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  Speaker 1: may skip over back and forth between some other pages
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  Speaker 1: here because they are doing the same thing in this
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  Speaker 1: article that they did in their previous article, where they're
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  Speaker 1: referencing other things. One thing is self reference that they
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  Speaker 1: wrote it, and then they're referencing it because of course
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  Speaker 1: they do that because they're feminists. But uh yeah, h
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  Speaker 1: We're still looking into their complaints against father's rights activists
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  Speaker 1: and such, because that's who they really are against, is
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  Speaker 1: men who might want to raise their own children instead
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  Speaker 1: of being managed by the world government. But as always,
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  Speaker 3: But in the meantime, please do I'm broke. I'm not clever,
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  Speaker 3: but I am broke, so you are clever.
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  Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I asked you to be on
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  Speaker 1: the show as often as you could. Literally what.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of invited myself to the show and I've
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  Speaker 4: been here ever since.
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  Speaker 1: But I did. I did say, come, come as much
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  Speaker 1: as you want on the show, and there is a
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  Speaker 1: reason because, like I said, I think your perspective is
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  Speaker 1: particularly important, especially we're talking about a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that the world government is imposing. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is not a government organization that the people elected.
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  Speaker 1: This is a government organization that previous administrators of nations
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  Speaker 1: that had all had their own war machines threw together
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  Speaker 1: to work in collaboration with each other, and now it
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  Speaker 1: is acting as an authority over those nations. So it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be more like the student Council of Nations,
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  Speaker 1: and it's behaving as though it is the king of
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  Speaker 1: a world kingdom. And you and Women isn't even a
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  Speaker 1: governmental part of it. It's just an organization that gives
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  Speaker 1: recommendations to the UN on behalf of feminists in women's name,
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  Speaker 1: without the consent of most of us who are women.
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  Speaker 1: But Europe has been listening to to them unfortunately, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, like our listeners should well know from previous shows.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the UK, Mike's country has been utterly destroyed
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  Speaker 1: by it. It's not the only one. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't actually have anybody from France or Spain to
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  Speaker 1: tell me about what's going on there. So we definitely
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  Speaker 1: need our our UK representative as much as you can
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  Speaker 1: say anyway, because like I know, if you say the
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  Speaker 1: wrong thing there, you get arrested and and it's not
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  Speaker 1: officer opie. So but in any case, speaking of this
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  Speaker 1: imposition on the world, the the You and Women group
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  Speaker 1: does not like us. They do not like the men's
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  Speaker 1: rights movement. They do. They do not like them, Sam,
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  Speaker 1: I am. They would not could not in a vote
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  Speaker 1: with a goat and all that. They're very upset with
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  Speaker 1: us because hey, Lauren, Lauren, I am here sorry that
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  Speaker 1: you know. It's it's been a month. Every single one
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  Speaker 1: of us has had a bunch of crap go wrong,
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  Speaker 1: so I kind of figured there may be something.
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  Speaker 4: Honey Badgers are always late. Therefore, the latest honey Badger
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  Speaker 4: is the honey badgerist honey badger.
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  Speaker 1: There we go, there we ow. Sorry, guys, that came
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  Speaker 1: out of nowhere. And I'm not even having a bad
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  Speaker 1: allergy day. When I do, I don't cough at you guys,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you and women hate their guts and they
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  Speaker 1: especially hate the female in oris. But they're going to
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  Speaker 1: only talk about the men, because the way that they
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  Speaker 1: hate on us is to pretend that we don't exist.
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  Speaker 1: So earlier last week we read the first couple of
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  Speaker 1: paragraphs here about gender inequality, and they're they're peddling their
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  Speaker 1: other article and mental health impacts on boys and men,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, note that they were only talking about
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  Speaker 1: things that in cells say, and they're only talking about
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  Speaker 1: them as if they have no basis for saying them,
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  Speaker 1: so right out of the shoot. You know, one of
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  Speaker 1: men's biggest complaints is you have to be a ten
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  Speaker 1: in order to get a woman's attention, because all women
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  Speaker 1: think they're tens. Right, All women think that they're the
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  Speaker 1: hottest thing on the planet, the coolest thing since slice spread,
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  Speaker 1: and therefore they must they must go for the top,
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  Speaker 1: to the top five percent of men.
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  Speaker 3: Is this a good place to add a hashtag all?
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  Speaker 1: Because I know so many wells I know hashtag not all.
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  Speaker 4: That's because I happen to associate with a lot of
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  Speaker 4: women who are crazy. But yes, although than you would
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  Speaker 4: expect to rate themselves as tens. This is the impression
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  Speaker 4: you can get if you listen to the whatever podcast
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  Speaker 4: a lot, But that the whatever podcast is not representative
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  Speaker 4: of an alarmingly large amount of women.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I talk about other women like this and then
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  Speaker 1: I think of myself as different. But to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I married the handsomest guy in the world, so I
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  Speaker 1: also and definitely am not a ten, especially not now.
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  Speaker 1: But but yeah, that's not representative of all women. But
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  Speaker 1: all women do have a degree of they're taught growing
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  Speaker 1: up shop around, they're taught growing up to be to
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  Speaker 1: have a little bit of hypergamy going on. And that
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  Speaker 1: was one that I had to fight because you know,
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  Speaker 1: my parents did the same thing in terms of, you know, well,
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  Speaker 1: you should marry an earner so that you know you're supported.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, my dad came
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  Speaker 1: from home where his mom didn't have that situation. She
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  Speaker 1: was a breadwinner of their family all of her life
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  Speaker 1: until she got lots of cancer and passed away. And
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  Speaker 1: so he also insisted that I be capable of supporting
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  Speaker 1: myself and a family because what if, right, what if
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  Speaker 1: lightning strikes, what if car accidents happened, what if I
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  Speaker 1: made bad choices in partner? But I did marry the
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  Speaker 1: handsomest guy in the world, and you know, I I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to carry the lotto by myself like.
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  Speaker 3: She did, because I am guy in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I would have to agree. My husband
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  Speaker 1: is the handsomest guy in the world. You guys just
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  Speaker 1: don't know it atout.
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  Speaker 4: Being satirical, I don't think I'm at ten. I think
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  Speaker 4: I'm a zero because I refuse to play this game.
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  Speaker 1: Guy underestimates his looks.
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  Speaker 4: I swear no, I'm not underestimating. I'm just refusing to
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  Speaker 4: play this game. And so I z my default. That's
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  Speaker 4: what everyone should do, in my opinion, refuse to play
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  Speaker 4: this fucking game.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 5: And and to that end, I would have to say that, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 5: not all, but it's the exception that proves the rule.
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  Speaker 1: And in situation, the fact that the exception is the
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  Speaker 1: exception really does. Yeah, and women are always looking for
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  Speaker 1: a dude that earns a lot of money. They're always
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  Speaker 1: looking for a dude that's better looking than they are, right,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, they're always they're always looking for a
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  Speaker 1: dude that's that's bigger and stronger than they are, taller
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  Speaker 1: than they are. Let's see what other rules did I break? Well, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so the one thing that they don't always look for
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  Speaker 1: as a dude that's smarter than they are, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: as handsome as my husband is, that still is the
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  Speaker 1: thing that really really flipped my switch with that he's
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  Speaker 1: smarter than I am, and I quite enjoy that quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit. But in any case, all that aside this
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  Speaker 1: thing that we we we looked at last week started
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  Speaker 1: talking about this last week. The only thing that they
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  Speaker 1: mentioned here is looks maxing communities and how they subject
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  Speaker 1: men's photos to brutal commentary. Women engage in the behavior,
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  Speaker 1: worked their asses off to accommodate that behavior, and then
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  Speaker 1: it's men's fault if that has a negative impact on men,
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  Speaker 1: that is you. And women reject guys if they, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have have things like a unibrow or a chubby face,
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  Speaker 1: or some women will even reject dad bods, which I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand because dad bods are cuddling, but women will
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  Speaker 1: reject the dumbest things. I only want a guy with
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  Speaker 1: blue eyes, where he has to be six feet taller over,
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  Speaker 1: even though I'm only five foot and a half inch.
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  Speaker 4: You can't say that's definitely racist because there's a certain race.
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  Speaker 1: There are actually dark skinned people with blue eyes. It's
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  Speaker 1: very rare.
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  Speaker 3: It's very like, so you can't say it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've known girls that will date guys with blue eyes,
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  Speaker 1: which is I think is dumb because I think brown
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  Speaker 1: eyes are pretty attractive too, and hazel, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: it's window to to what the person is thinking. I
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  Speaker 1: don't necessarily buy into the whole window of the soul thing,
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  Speaker 1: but they are the window to what the person is thinking,
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  Speaker 1: and it's kind of cool to be a to see that.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think there's a more attractive eye color.
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  Speaker 1: But in any case, there's Women will do all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of stuff like that and then complain when guys are
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  Speaker 1: hyper critical about their own looks, you know, as if
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  Speaker 1: guys did this to themselves. At the same time, the
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  Speaker 1: female run, female driven beauty industry that has to change
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  Speaker 1: every little thing about women at the cost of like
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  Speaker 1: between one hundred and fifty and three hundred bucks a
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  Speaker 1: month on supplies that somehow is men's fault. Those beauty
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  Speaker 1: standards that women push on each other are somehow men's fault,
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  Speaker 1: and that is in a nutshell, you know, like they're
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  Speaker 1: they're essentially their first statement on how to get rid
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  Speaker 1: of us is to ignore us and only talk about
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  Speaker 1: things that they think they can get people to hate.
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  Speaker 1: All these men are tearing each other down and in
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  Speaker 1: particular things they can get women to hate, because other
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  Speaker 1: guys are going to be like, yeah, so, but when
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  Speaker 1: you talk to women about this, they're going to get upset.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to think these guys are in trouble. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to think these guys are are you know, the
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  Speaker 1: the cause of all male suicide and so on. Now
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to consider the fact that these guys are
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  Speaker 1: doing this because they're already experiencing social rejection and they're
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to stop that from happening. Nope,
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  Speaker 1: they're just bad. How dare they try to improve their looks?
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  Speaker 1: How dare they talk about what needs improvement or what
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  Speaker 1: they think needs improvement. And at the same time, if
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  Speaker 1: you suggest that maybe women shouldn't have such brutal standards
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  Speaker 1: in the first place, and then guys wouldn't subject each
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  Speaker 1: other to that type of criticism, here's what you need
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  Speaker 1: to change because this is what women like, then you're
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  Speaker 1: a misogynist. So the upshot then is what women should
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  Speaker 1: have the highest of high standards. But how dare men
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  Speaker 1: try to meet those standards. What the fuck is wrong
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  Speaker 1: with those guys? That makes sense, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 4: So even when we tried to talk to normies about this,
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  Speaker 4: this happened over that one Christmas when we tried to
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  Speaker 4: have that X space.
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  Speaker 3: With anyone who who joined it, and we were encountered.
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  Speaker 4: By several men, much like when Brian Nelson tried to
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  Speaker 4: talk to these normies on this stream. And we keep
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  Speaker 4: encountering this like, look, if women have high standards, you
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  Speaker 4: should just meet those standards. You can't just blame women
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  Speaker 4: for having these high standards. You just need to meet
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  Speaker 4: these high standards. And I'm like, okay, yep, I see
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  Speaker 4: where you're driving at because you're trying not to fall
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  Speaker 4: down to the floor, but I'm like, you're trying to
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  Speaker 4: rise up to the ceiling. So I have to ask
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  Speaker 4: what would the world look like if women's standards were
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  Speaker 4: too high? And this is a conditional hypothesis, and that
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  Speaker 4: makes it very that blows the minds of there. I say,
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  Speaker 4: low IQ people who can't entertain a conditional hypothesis, But
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  Speaker 4: what would the world look like if women's standards were
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  Speaker 4: too high?
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  Speaker 3: And I just have to ask this to.
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  Speaker 4: The average army, like imagine just blue sky, thinking for
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  Speaker 4: a moment, what if women's standards were too high?
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  Speaker 3: How would that present as a series.
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  Speaker 4: Of of applicable descriptions in the world. What would that
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  Speaker 4: look like? And people have trouble describing this without describing
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  Speaker 4: the world as it is right now because obvious exceptions
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  Speaker 4: like the handful of non crazy women that I talked to,
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  Speaker 4: and obvious exceptions of the clinically narcissistic women out there.
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  Speaker 4: But the average woman is not the same average woman
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  Speaker 4: that they were one hundred years ago, let alone a
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  Speaker 4: thousand years ago. Like women's standards have risen as Heemanism
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  Speaker 4: has ritten, as romantic chivalry has risen, and not just
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  Speaker 4: in the last hundred years, but in the last thousand years.
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  Speaker 4: So like, what would it look like if women's standards
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  Speaker 4: were too high? Answer me that normies, because it kind
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  Speaker 4: of looks like what we have right now. It kind
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  Speaker 4: of looks like how on tinder, like women rate eighty
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  Speaker 4: percent of men is below average.
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  Speaker 3: It would look something like that, wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 4: And we should be looking as to how we bring
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  Speaker 4: that average, bring that number down rather than up, because
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  Speaker 4: if we keep going the way we're going, then ten
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  Speaker 4: years from now, it'll be ninety percent of men who
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  Speaker 4: are below average looks, and then ninety five and before
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  Speaker 4: you know it, literally every man will be below average.
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  Speaker 4: How is that possible? How is eighty percent? It should
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  Speaker 4: be fifty. That's how averages work. It should be fifty
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  Speaker 4: men are below average. But we're already at eighty. So
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  Speaker 4: why why is it so crazy to conceive of the
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  Speaker 4: idea that one hundred percent of men will be considered
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  Speaker 4: below average in the luxe department by the average woman.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what we're arriving at.
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  Speaker 4: And we're practically at that point of this case, because
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  Speaker 4: it's not just about a man's looks, is it. It's
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  Speaker 4: about how much fucking boller he's got. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: they would twist their brains into saying that even the
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  Speaker 4: ugliest amount of the world, as long as he's a billionaire,
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  Speaker 4: is a ten, and even the best looking men in
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  Speaker 4: the world, as long as he's not a violent criminal
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  Speaker 4: is a zero.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because then you have to deal with that weird
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  Speaker 3: fetish that far too.
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  Speaker 4: Many women have that they want violently criminal men who
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  Speaker 4: are capable of serial killing anyone.
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  Speaker 1: But you, milady, yeah, gets me, because they'll compete for
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  Speaker 1: the top twenty percent, but then they want to go
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  Speaker 1: fuck the guy with tear drop tattoos on his face,
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  Speaker 1: gang gang symbols and all kinds of stuff on his
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  Speaker 1: arms and what have you. And it's like, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: that the top twenty percent guy doesn't want you if
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  Speaker 1: you've been sleeping with that other dude. Yeah, And it's
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  Speaker 1: not because he thinks you're immoral. It might be. It
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  Speaker 1: might be a little bit because he thinks you're untrustworthy,
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  Speaker 1: but more it's because it's unhygienic. It's because you might
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  Speaker 1: have picked up something from that other guy and that's gross, right,
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  Speaker 1: And and it's it's not misogynistic to recognize that there
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  Speaker 1: are STIs that have to population statistically, is a risk
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  Speaker 1: to anybody that might be sleeping around, and that you're
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  Speaker 1: more likely to run into the part of the population
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  Speaker 1: that's a risk, a transmission risk when you start engaging
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  Speaker 1: with people who maybe engage with IV drug users and
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  Speaker 1: prostitutes and people who uh, maybe have high body count.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you don't. Even if your body count before
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  Speaker 1: the guy is one, before you're your partner, you still
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  Speaker 1: if your if your body count is one jailbird or
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  Speaker 1: one you know, gang member right one bottom of the barrel,
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  Speaker 1: guy whose lifestyle is dangerous and includes dangerous women. Then
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  Speaker 1: you've just subjected your future partner to contact with that
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  Speaker 1: dangerous guy and whatever dangerous women he's been with. This
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  Speaker 1: is this is stuff that should be elementary. We were
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  Speaker 1: learning this in high school. Gen X was learning this
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  Speaker 1: in high school in the nineteen eighties. You know the
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  Speaker 1: idea that when you sleep with a person, you're essentially hygienically,
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  Speaker 1: you're sleeping with every person that that person has ever
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  Speaker 1: been with, because that's how that works in terms of
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: STI transmission, especially with STIs that take a while to manifest,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like HIV can take like three years to show up
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: in your system. It might be in their hiding for
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: three years, and it might be contagious and you wouldn't
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: know you had it, and it might not show up
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: on a blood test and it still can be passed
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to your partner. People don't always tell you that they
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: have something like a herpes or HPV. People don't even
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: always know that they have HPV. Usually they know if
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: they have herpes that apparently is painful or something. But yeah,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: people don't always tell you that they have something like that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: And similarly, there are other things happening now antibiotic resistant bacteria,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: for instance, that are scary as fuck. And I think
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I've described this a couple of times on this show
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: and other shows, But there are bacteria that have created
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: an enzyme in their evolution to try to survive the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: antibiotics that we throw at them. They've created an enzyme
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that they fire off at the molecules of whatever chemicals
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: we put in our bodies to kill them, and it
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: chemically reacts with our antibiotics and changes them to some
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: other non antibiotic substance and water. So it's a hydrolyzing
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: enzyme and it makes it harmless to the bacteria. So
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it's useless to you because the bacteria that's infected you
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't die. Then it continues to do whatever it's doing
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that you're having symptoms from. End are you know, scientists
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: have come up with a two pronged attack in a
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: drug that goes after first the enzyme and then the bacteria.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: But there are now some bacteria that are immune to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: those and this is this is a hot war. This
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: is an actual hot war with enzyme missiles, and you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: smart bombs basically that we're firing off at the bacteria.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And in the context of that, one of those devastatingly
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: dangerous and completely resistant to all different types of antibiotics
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: bacteria is an E. Coli bacteria lives in your lower
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: intestine and that's present in hospitals and it's it's all replaced.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: There is a super yeast infection that is living in
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: things like if you if you get they had to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: it to people with COVID, you get to put in
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: your lungs so you can breathe intubated. If you have
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to get intubated, some of those they're having difficulty cleaning
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the yeast infections off of them. And the stuff that
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: usually kills yeast is not killing this yeast. So you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the ultimate death of humanity might not be aliens or
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: nuclear bombs, or starvation, climate change, none of that. It
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: might be a massive humanity wide freaking yeast infection. But
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: among the rest of that is a is a antibiotic
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: resistant form of gone rhea, and I guess there's now
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: an antibiotic resistance. I said the other day would be
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: really scary if this happened with syphilis. Then somebody messaged
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: me it already has. There's an antibiotic resistant form of syphilis.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: You should all read up on what syphilis does. It's scary.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And so this this idea that dudes who are like, no,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be with somebody who has slept
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: around a lot, are somehow being misogynistic. No, that's self defense, Okay,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that's being wise. Women should have the same attitude both
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: about themselves. I don't want to be the person that
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: slept around and also toward you, because they have a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: risk as well. And the smart thing for a woman is,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you know, just the same thing as for a man,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: try not to try to wait till you're married, try
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: not to screw around with everything that moves. Like the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Sexual Revolution said, you can and wait till you're married
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and then stay within the marriage, and you're much more
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: likely to avoid being a casualty of the war between
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: medical science and bacteria. Yeah, the ched king says, al
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Capone got syphilis, and it is it's a horrible death.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It's not it's a flesh eating bacteria. But it's not
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: just a flesh eating bacteria. It also makes you suffer
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: from insanity, senile dementia, it's like it fucks up everything.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: That's what happened to Henry the eighth and to so
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: many things.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: It's kind of exploded in his coffin, or is some case,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: exploded in his coffin because it was bloated from the syphilis.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: That's one of the things syphilis can you. It's a
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: bloody thing. We essentially killed it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Do we care it?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: We found a wall unfortunately, yes, unfortunately, Yes, antibiotics treated
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it for a long time. But but like I said,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: there's a there's an antibiotic resistant version of it now.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: So this is like, like I said, this is people
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: should be very careful who they have sex with. People
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: should be very careful about their enemacy. Even if you
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: don't care about the oxytocin factor, which changes the way
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you think about the person when you sleep with them,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: even one it's more addictive than heroin. It affects you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: in ways that you don't consciously take note of, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: it makes you vulnerable, which if you're in a loving, trusting,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: mutually supportive relationship with your partner, that vulnerability is okay,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: But if you're with a stranger, it's not. And when
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you rip that apart, you know by going off to
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: be with somebody else, and especially if you catch feelings
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and the other person doesn't, there's psychological damage that takes
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: place that you don't necessarily take conscious note of either,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: but you experience it and it changes you and it
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: affects your future relationships, whether you're male or female. So
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: one of the things I strongly disagree with a lot
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: of the game theory promoting pickup artist types and red
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: pill dudes, the idea that it's okay for women or
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: not okay for women to sleep around, but it is
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: okay for men to sleep around. The thing they're wrong
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: about is no, it's not okay for men to sleep
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: around either. It's not okay for anybody to sleep around.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: It's a very bad idea and nobody should do it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And this is something that you know, if you're a parent,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the smartest thing you can do for your kids, besides
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: straight talk about future finances, is be very blunt with
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: them about this information and get them to understand that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it's not just fun to have sex. It's also high risk, vulnerable,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and creates an attachment and so besides the risk of pregnancy,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: they're putting their bodies at risk. And they're putting their
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: minds at risk. And so you know, it's different when,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: like I said, when you're in a loving, trusting relationship
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and somebody wants to take care of you and you
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: want to take care of them, that's a whole different story,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and the risk isn't the same, and that bond is
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: just makes your marriage stronger, right, But when you're not who,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: you end up hurting each other. And it's one of
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the reasons why there's often so much bitterness between partners
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that you know, they break up when they're young. And
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: all these women that tell you about all their toxic
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: ex boyfriends, I'll bet that guy wasn't toxic while they
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: were sleeping with him. It was only after that stopped
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that all of a sudden everything about him was wrong.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: And that's why for all this talk we hear about
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: how it's societally considered okay for men to sleep around
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: but not for women to sleep around. Well, that's largely
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: based on the men who are in charge of things,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: because men have always been in charge of things for
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: political reasons, however, and it's largely because, especially in modern times,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: that sleeping with a woman or any amount of women
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: is considered a status symbol for men, because women's sexuality
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: is considered pure and innocent and a gift something to
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: be thankful for, whereas men's sexuality is toxic and corrupt
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: and it should be something that should be avoided. So yeah,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: these societal rules we have in the advent of romantic
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: chivalry otherwise known as missonry, has guided.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Women in the right direction and men in the wrong direction.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Whether you're a prince or a pauper, or a princess
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: or a well pauper, there are rules that should apply
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: in both cases, like yeah, no, yeah, you should have
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: as few sexual partners as possible, regardless of the antibiotics
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: that we have these days that can that can save
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: or at least mitigate the possibilities of of hideous STD
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: based diseases and deaths, Like, it's still generally good advice
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: for men and women to have as few sexual partners
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: as possible, no matter what's going on politically or who's
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: in charge, or who is afforded the opportunity to have
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: multiple sexual partners. And yes, maybe there will always be
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: a bit of a skewing in that direction, because after all,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: men are attracted to female virgins and women are not
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: attracted to male virgins. And I don't know how we
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: change that. That seems to be an evolved thing. And
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: that's to get into that for fucking hours as to
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: how that happened or how we deal with that. But
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: we can deal with this discrepancy in both cases by saying,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: men and women, please, for the love of God or
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: whatever you believe in, have as few sexual partners as possible,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: because I mean, it's good advice in general, with or without,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: but in the existence of SGDs, especially the ones to
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: which we have not yet found a prevention.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just fucking don't be whores, and yes I include men.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Don't be horse either. Don't you like this?
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: That's it's one of these fucking traditions we have for
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: a fucking good reason.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: It just needs to be applied to men as well.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: And but yeah, the fact that it hasn't been applied
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: to women in the modern day. Yeah, fact, men and
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: women differitely in different ways, but they're all awful.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: You do not want to have to for gonerhea. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: will tell you right now. You do not want to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: have to be tested for goner rhea, because I know
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: how that test is done. If you look up how
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that test is done, it will make you it will
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: make you heart just to read it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, it's not not a pleasant experience for anyone.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: But men have a longer urethra than women do, so
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it's more unpleasant for men. Oh here, So here we
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: have this situation where, you know, I think part of
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the reason that in cell communities exist now and they
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: are so big is this normalization of risky, indiscriminate sexual behavior.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, once upon a time that wasn't normal.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: It wasn't normal for unmarried people to engage in rampant, wanton, indiscriminate,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: widespread sexual behavior. And part of it was because they
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: didn't have the effective birth control that we have today,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: but a lot of it was because we didn't have antibiotics.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: We didn't have vaccines. Heck, even when I was in
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: high school, there was no HPV vaccine when I was
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: a teenager. When I was a teenager, aides was a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: death sentence. They didn't have a treatment for it that
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: that could preserve your life for years and years, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: people who got it died from pneumonia. And if they
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: didn't die from pneumonia, they went through a similar similar
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: death in some ways to syphilis. You've got lesions on
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: your brain and became senile. So it was not a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: time where you know, this shit wasn't scary. It was scary,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and that was that was the end of the twentieth century.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Prior to that, like historically throughout earlier history, you know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you had people being much much more careful. Ah, yes, Benjamin,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I do see you in Oh. Yeah, you wanted me
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to talk about herpes. Herpes it that's that's another thing.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: There is some indication that there are cancers related to herpes.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: There are definitely cancers related to HPV, which is a
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Herpes family virus. It's in the herpes chicken pox, cold sores,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and HPV, and there's some other viruses that are in
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that family. And it's my personal suspicion that if one
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of them, which we know two of them at least
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: have some relationship to cancer, that probably all of them do,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: all of the Herpes family, and so I think those
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: are dangerous viruses. HPV can be deadly without you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna you're not gonna die of genital warts,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: but you might die of throat cancer, or you might
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: might die of a genital cancer, and you know, if
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you're female. The scary thing about it is when you
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: get it on your cervix, you don't have any symptoms,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and it'll start out as a little tumor like the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: size of the lead of a pencil, and then it'll
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: grow to maybe the size of a sweet pea. That's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you know, and you can get it. You don't have
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to have HPV to get get that. I had that
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: in and I don't have HPV, but it's significantly more
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: likely if you have HPV, and I think most people
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: who do get it have HPV. But in any case,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: it will suddenly, you know, go from that little teeny
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: weeny py sized tumor without warning to just taking over
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: your whole reproductive system rapidly, and it can go from
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: zero to stage four so fast that you don't even
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: get tested for it before it's too late to get
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: treated for it, and you end up dying from it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: When I had that little tumor, the only reason we
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: found it was because I was pregnant, so, you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: in for prenatal care and they did the usual female
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: tests and everything. Because I had chosen to not go
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to the doctor for like ten years. I don't like
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: going to the doctor. Spent like my whole childhood in hospital,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: so I don't I don't spend very much time at
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the doctor's office now. But if I hadn't been pregnant,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't have found it and I wouldn't be here.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Because it was the rapid developing kind. It was so
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: easy for me. They got it all with the biopsy.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't have to go through chemo, I didn't have
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: to go through radiation, I didn't have to be scared.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I had to go do the female tests every six
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: months for seven years with my punishment for skipping the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: annual one for ten years. But aside from that, that
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: was it. Man, and I don't know. Richard Bierre says
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: as monkey pops a poxfirevirus or a herpes family, I'm
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: not sure. I know, like smallpox I think is a
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: herpes virus, so monkey pox might also be a herpes virus.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: From the pictures I've seen, it looks like one, but
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean it is. But it's the same
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: family of viruses that it really I kind of suspect
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that the explosion of skin cancer, you know, over the
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: years before everybody started using sunscreen was probably contributed to
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: by those chicken pox parties that the baby boomers had
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: with my generation when we were kids, so that we
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: would just get it at the age where we were
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: least likely to be harmed by it because they didn't know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you know. But in any case, like there's there's all
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: of that, just this idea that humans were made to
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: just have wild, rampant, indiscriminates sex and then split up
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: from each other and move on to another partner over
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and over again. It's a wrong idea, and it's damaging
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to both sexes. And you know, women have have their
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: repercussions from it and men have theirs. And I think
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the in cell community is one of those repercussions, the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: fact that there's a whole segment of the population that
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: has been left out of this behavior because of different things.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Some of it it's some of them are intellectually disabled,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of them are artistic, many of them are
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: disabled physically, have or have at least some degree of
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: what other people would look at and see as a deformity.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not just talking about unattractive facial features.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about years ago I had a boyfriend that
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: had one of his pectoral muscles never grew, so one
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: side of his chest was completely flat. That happens with
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: women too. A lot of times women will be given
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: as so he wasn't given a surgery, so he had
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: a muscle on one side and a flat chest on
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the other side. And I guess some women are picky
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: about stuff like that. This guy was a great guy.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: He wasn't the guy, but I mean, we parted on
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: good terms and he's he moved on to somebody else,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and I believe he got married. But today women are
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: very picky about stuff like that, and they can be
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: downright bitchy about it. And you know, that's that's minors.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Some guys have a really rough time. There are two
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: levels below the bottom rung of the social ladder that
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: are populated. The first one down is populated almost exclusively
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: by guys, and the bottom one is exclusively guys. And
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: that's who is in the in cell community. Is those guys.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Guys that don't know how to socialize very well, or
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: guys that you know, maybe they're way too short or
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: way too skinny, or have a sweating problem. Are all
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: kinds of different things because they see everybody else engaging
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: in this crazy ass behavior that everybody has made normal.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: It does damage to them too. And you know it's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: not it's not something when I say, well, how dare
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: you sleep with people? Because this other guy is going
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to be sad. It's the psychology of this normalizing a
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: behavior that is unhealthy and dangerous and making it look
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: like not only is it normal, but it's a requirement
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: for you to be considered normal and it's supposed to
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: be fun and important to people's lives. Then you have
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: a whole segment of the population that's left out of
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: it that's very damaging.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: So that's the.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Reason do they demonize them for it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: There's a reason that most animal species, if not damn
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: near all animal species that haven't gone extinct to this.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Day, gravitate to either a tournament.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Situation or a pair bonding situation. Is because they're the
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: safest ways of doing these things. A tournament because it's
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: one male and a whole bunch of females, or I
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: guess in a bunch of insects species one female and
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: bunch of males, or pair bonding, and this is why
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: apes evolved from tournament to pair bonding with apparently a
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: very narrow pathway in between the two, because the only
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: other alternative is what we have in the modern age,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: where everyone's just fucking everyone's a.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Very good not having the babies.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: The good reason we have that no species exist, that
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: where everyone just fucks everyone all the time is because
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: of SGDs, because nature is always fighting this arms war,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: and that includes the various bacteria and viruses that are
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: always vying to try and get from body to body,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: and any species that devolves into everyone fucking everyone by
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: these various viruses and bacteria that are always hoping to
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: jump from body to body as quickly as they possibly caunt,
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: and societal norms where everyone shouldn't fuck everyone all the time,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: because if we did have these societal norms, we would
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: fucking die. Our species would fucking die at the hands
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: of all of these viruses and bacteria that are just
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: jumping at the chance of this happening so they can
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: kill us all.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: That that that that spaceship that's headed here from what's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it what's it called thirty thirty one Atlas or whatever
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna destroy the planet anyway. It makes
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: me think of weird al Yakovic's Happy Birthday, but where
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: he says it finishes up something about things being irrelevant
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: because we're all gonna die. But you know, my point
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: on this is, like, we have this whole complicated factor
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: around this community that the contributing factors to their existence
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: as a community, the contributing factor factors to their personal
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: circum stances, and the contributing factors to their psychology, those
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: all get ignored.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: The fact that women's standards are the reason why they
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: so brutally criticize each other's looks, that gets ignored. And
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: what is it, Oh, it's unrealistic definitions of manhood being
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: imposed by the manisphere on men, promoting anxiety, self harm,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: and risky behaviors. You know, it has absolutely nothing to
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: do with the fact that all of society is geared
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: toward making them think there's something wrong with them if
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: they don't engage in probably one of the unhealthiest behaviors
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that humanity has adopted throughout our entire history besides war.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: And similarly, like harmful gender attitudes and social norms, And
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: they accuse us of amplifying sexist stereotypes and harmful social
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: norms with limited accountability because we have anonymity right, so
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: harmful stereotypes like the stereotype that women men should be
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: so afraid of men that they'd rather run into a literal,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: biological killing machine in the woods, a predatory meat eating omnivorous.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: In fact, it might eat your close to killing machine
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: rather than a guy, because guys are so scary, despite
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the fact the violent crime perpetration is representative of less
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: than one tenth of one percent of the male population
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: in the world over the age of fifteen.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Have we done crocodile versus man? I want to see
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: how that plays out. If you happen to be in
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: the North Australian swamp or somewhere in an African swamp,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: would you rather encounter assault water crocodile than a man?
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I just want to see what women say. I just
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: I want to take this experiment as far as we
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: can take it.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: If you happen to be in.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Coastal waters, would you rather encounter a great white shark
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: than a man?
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I just want to see what women say.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Because I get the horrible, the most horrible feeling that
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: they'll say, oh yeah, a great white shop definitely a
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: great white shark would be better than a.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Man, because you don't know what a man's gonna do.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: You know exactly what a great white shok can do.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: It's gonna bite you in half and then face.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know what he's gonna do, patriarchy on you,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: and than a great white.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Shok eating you in three pieces fucking hell.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: The the evil man might take you out and pay
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: for your dinner and and then then you have to
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: then you might have to tell him that that's that's
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that's nice at all, But you're not going back to
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: his apartment with him, but you'd like to take him
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: out next week. Most women won't do that part, not
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: at all. That's my challenge your homework. If you're female
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and you're listening to this and and you're you're dating somebody,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: treat him, take him out and and treat him to
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: something that you know he might pick if he was
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: going to just go out by himself and do it
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like you know, a lot of guys are are into
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: cars or mechanical thing. You know, a lot of guys
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: are into anime. A lot of guys are into comic books.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: You know, go go to something like that. Go to
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: something that you know is one of his hobbies. Get
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: tickets to his his favorite band, a performance of his
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: favorite band, and treat him and see what happens, because
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun to watch the response it is,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you know, except once in a while it's a little
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: overwhelming for a guy. There was an incident once in
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: my history where you know, guy, I was like, why
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: it being so nice to you? And then he cried.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I felt so bad for a minute, but you know,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: once the overwhelming aspect of it got got got done.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: And I mean like, it's because it's overwhelming because that
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: happens to them so rarely, and we get pampered like
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: that all the time. Oh, I want to take you
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: to I know you like this singer. I want to
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: take you to hear this singer sing. All right, you
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: said you wanted to see this movie. Well it's let's go.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Let's go this weekend. There's this fancy new restaurant I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: want to take you to, you know, and and women
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: will be flattered and have a good time, and they'll
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: do their best to make sure the guy knows they
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: had a good time, and everything will be on their
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: best behavior. You know. Sometimes they'll be on their worst behavior.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: But how often do you reciprocate, really reciprocate and take
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: him someplace, pay for his meal, and get tickets to
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: something that you know he would like to do, not
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: something that you want him to like to do, with
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: something you know he would like to do, and and
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and and because it is so rare, it can be
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: that overwhelming. And but like the rest of the night
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: was a blast, and it was so much fun, and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: it is a lot of fun.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: We went to see well, one time we went to
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: see Queens of the Stone Age.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: We both happened to love that band.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: And and then last year, well.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Was it was it?
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: This year, Mike, we went to go see Promise and
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: I surprised him. Yeah, yeah, and just the look on
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: his face was just priceless. It was worth all of
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: the effort and everything.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a great experience for both
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: of you. And you know, if he's been treating you,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: he deserves it anyway. So yeah, but yeah, this this
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: idea of sexist stereotypes, right that that generalization of that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: one minus you know, under one tenth of one percent
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that is criminally violent. And and by the way, one
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: of the starkest differences between criminally violent men and all
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: of the other men in the world who do are
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: not criminally violent, is that criminally violent men, for one
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: reason or another from their history or sometimes because of
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: genetics and birth injuries, are fucked in the head. There
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: is a different mental pattern, and there's even a different
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: pattern in like when they look at the brain when
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: they do MRIs and they can they can actually see
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: which part of the brain is, you know, having having
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: reactions and everything. It's it's as different between criminally violent
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: people and ordinary guys that are just living their lives
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: and doing their best as it is between people with
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: physical brain damage from brain injuries and people with healthy
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: brain It's that different.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: To generalize those extremely different guys to the rest of
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the guys is an incredibly harmful stereotype. It not only
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: does it damage the reputation of men and create animosity
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: toward men and put them in a state of, you know,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: having to defend themselves because they're being defamed, and make them,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: you know, if it affects the ego as well, right,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: their self esteem and causes men to feel like they
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: have something to make up for that isn't even their fault, right,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: But it also teaches women not to defend themselves, not
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: have situational awareness, not to be able to tell the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: difference between a predator and someone who isn't going to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: do anything to them or might even help them if
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a predator comes after them. And so that's bad as well.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And it prevents women from being able to tell the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: difference between a potential partner who would be a good
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: father versus a potential partner who would not. So it's
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: harmful to children. But feminists do that anyway, right, And
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: this organization that is upset about harmful gender attitudes and
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: social norms toward women does that. They promote the idea
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that domestic violence is something that men do and women
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: experience that is widespread, pervasive, and can be generalized to
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: the male population at large as a behavior. And they're
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: pushing for legislation that relies on the the the Luth
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: model of handling domestic violence, which draws on patriarchy theory
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and dictates that authorities and help systems for victims presume
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: domestic violence to be something that the male population does
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: to the female population as a form of patriarchal dominance,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: oppression and control. But that's not a harmful stereotype or
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: gender attitude, is it.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, we live in a society, but we
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: live in a society in which predation is based on
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: our faction more than it's based on physicality.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Because back in the Stone Age and the paleolopic whoever
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: it was, when predation was based on physicality, was based
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: on the monsters that we lived with, lived with, like
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: bears and crocodiles and gray was shocks, mostly lined animals.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: But you know what I mean.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've ejected most of that from our society,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: especially in Britain where we've killed all the bears and
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: the wolves, and now looking out for predators is a
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: whole different set of.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Well game theory.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Dare I say now that we live in a society,
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: we we live with predators who are gaming the system
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: of this society that they have to get through the
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: psychological barriers before they can get through the physical barriers.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Not that there aren't, not that we don't still live
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: with monsters who don't give a shit about the psychological barrier,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: especially nowadays now that we have infinite fifty IQ shadow
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: beasts from Palkistan wandering around who have the lowest barrier
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: of psychological walls to get over because they think they
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: can just go you me, you're beautiful, me, you have babies, me,
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: fuck you me, You're in all these bullshit.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: But at the same at the same time, there are
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: still intelligent psychopaths.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I know that sounds like like you're making
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: it sound like there are psychopaths who are more intelligent than.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Other people, but there are.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: This is this is something we I don't like to address,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: but a great of the psychopaths who need to be
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: put in high security prison are highly intelligent, and that's
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: how they become successful serial killers and serial rapis in
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: the first.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Week because they are able to get around Yeah.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are able to get around these psychological barriers
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: in the same way physical predators that are able to
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: get around physical barriers.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: The good thing is that the overwhelming majority of psychopaths
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: are not in that group. They're dumb enough to get caught.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: But the ones that are in that group, it's a
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: scary combination to have an extremely high IQ and a
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: total lack of conscience in the same person. Very very dangerous.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: Because because men are much more physical and women are
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: much more psychological.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Well in different ways.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: You know, these are the avenues through which these predators
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: are able to evolve themselves. And yes, even back in
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: the Stone Age, there were female psychopaths who were able
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: to manipulate males despite those women being idiots, and despite
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: those males being idiots.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Even female idiots.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Have a leg over when they comes possibly that no
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: the best phrasing, but yeah.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: They had the ability to.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Get over men's psychology in the way that men weren't
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: able to get over women's. Men have always been more
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: physically stronger than women, but women have always been.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say psychologically, well, I do, because that's
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: what strength is.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: It's just this ability to get over hurdles, and women
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: have always had this over men. We've evolved this way
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: where women can affect men psychologically and emotionally and peremonially. That's,
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: you know, let's not forget in ways that men can't do.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Evolution set of stuff for this, the way that women's
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: tears can affect men psychologically and emotionally in the way.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: The were men's. Women don't give a shit about men's pears.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Here than men's. In adolescents men's tear ducts change. Boys
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: tear ducts change, and it does become physically harder for
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: them to cry. This is one of the reasons why
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: it's such an abusive thing for feminists to say that
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: the reason that male suicide rates are so much higher
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: than women's is that men don't cry enough. They can't
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: cry at the drop of a hat the way feminists do.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Most men can't do that. Occasionally you'll find a guy
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: whose tear ducts remained equally developed and didn't change. But
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: most of the time, you know, dudes don't have the
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: capacity to cry as easily as women, to be triggered
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: to tears as easily as women. And it's probably an
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: evolutionary thing as well. You know, we have that whole
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: neotony thing going for us, and you know, a woman
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: who has a more neotinous face and when she turns
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: on the water works. It is designed and packaged to
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: pull on your heart strings. And it doesn't just pull
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: on the heart strings of men, it pulls on heart
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: strings of other women too. So it's something that you
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: know that's it's not it's biological, it's not just a
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: psychological thing. But but yeah, this idea that you know,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: because men handle pain and suffering differently than women. They're
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: part of it is, you know, the lack of compassion
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that boys face growing up. They learned that if they
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: need relief from something, or they have a problem that
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: they need a solution to, it's on them to find
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: that solution or get that relief, or they have to tough
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: out the problem because the adults around them aren't going
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to coddle them the way that they call the girls.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, girls, on the other hand, learn to
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: go to an adult for help, and as they become
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: adults themselves, they learn to treat males as more adult
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: than themselves, even if those males are still boys. And
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: that's where you end up with pedophile school teachers that
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: are like in their early timidnis that rape their students
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: and then blame them. They blame the victim for their
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: predatory behavior because they've learned to treat male as synonymous
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: with more adult and female as synonymous with less adult.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's they're very dangerous because of that,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: and it's something that if we don't do something about that.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: You know, in the histories of violent criminals and in
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: particular violent sex offenders. There's a much higher rate of
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: having been victimized sexually or having been abused by a
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: woman than in the rest of the population. It's not
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: a high rate, as in necessarily always proven to be
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: more than fifty percent, but it's there's a disproportionate percentage,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: and so that indicates that that is a contribute significant
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: contributing factor. And so even if you don't care that
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: these people that their lives are destroyed and when they
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: become criminals, or that the victims that they affect are harmed,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the fact that our society ends up having to pay
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: for containment and penalties and therapies and stuff like that
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: because of that, you should be at least upset that
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: your tax dollars are are being used up by these women,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: even if you don't have compassion for the individuals that
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: they've harmed, but you should have compassion for the individuals
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: that they've harmed, unless you're a psychopath, but yeah, harmful
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: give your attitude and social norms. Only men do that, right.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Every species maxes out certain stats, to put it in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: gamer terms, that can develop their evolutionary niche because we
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: all evolve into niches where where we max out our
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: health stats, or our or our mobility stats or harmopholage
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: stats or whatever or whatever.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: It is the super not long neck like a giraffe,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: so that you can nothing else in reach exactly.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: And all these species are in danger of if they've
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: become too successful.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: They just continue a maxing out these stats.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Even if they encounter environmental constraints or non constraints where
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: they've become so successes that their blessing becomes a curse,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: if you will, where the giraffe necks become too long,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: or cheeta has become too fast that they can't they
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: have no stamina or whatever. And this is the problem
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: with humans. We've maxed out our compassion stats, are going
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: to center compassion status, that we've reached this point where
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: it's where we're like, we don't know how to how
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: to turn back. We don't we don't know how to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: turn off this evolutionary niche that has made us so successful.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: And arguably this is what religions are for, this is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: what the mythologies are for that people encounter these problems
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: that these evolutionary niches have brought us into and the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: only way to turn back, because it takes millions of
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: years for evolution to turn this ship off. And when
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: we get into a situation that Humors are into, where
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: we advance thousands of years at a time, we've got
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: hundreds of years.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: At a time.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: We are advancing so quickly societally and civilizationally, but we
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: can't appeal to evolution to turn this off because it's
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: going to take millions of years. And this is why
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: it's I guess it's helpful that we have that our
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: evolutionary niche involves our brains, and our brains are able
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: to write things down.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: We write things down like these.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: These are religious books that we have to sort of
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: to tell people you really need to wind this ship
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: back in the in the event you can.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: And this is why we have stories like Adam and Eve.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: This is why we have stories like all that shit
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: in the Bible, like Sodom and more about you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: be fucking careful not not to go this far. And
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: that's the best we can do. And this is this
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: is society fighting against evolution, and it's always going to
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: be an upward battle. And this is why it's such
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: an upward battle for us. Here at Honey Badger Radio
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: and indeed here in the U S the main's arts
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: movement that we're you know, that we're trying to put
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: some kind of societal barriers in place to push back
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  Speaker 4: into this evolutionary niche we have where well, we have
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: these huge brains that make sure we we protect women
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: at all costs. And when I say all costs, I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: mean at the cost of men and if you and children,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: and if we don't push back against that, it will
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: be our downfall. And it's already looking like it is
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: going to be our downfall. And you know, I'm not
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: saying we're trying to create a religion. I'm just like,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: we're trying to write down as much shit as we can,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: well in in the in the in the modern age equivalent,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: we're trying to do as many podcasts to try to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: try and let people know. Look, I know we are
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: evolutionarily set up two.
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  Speaker 3: To do the things we're doing.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I don't want to run into into
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: too much shit about say that we're naturally kind of centric.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think we are necessarily that naturally guid ecentric.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: But there's a seed there, there's a seed in there
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: somewhere that has been taken too far. And yeah, we're
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: just here to tell people we've taken that seed too far.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: We can pull it back to that seed and only
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: back to that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Seed where we're like, yes, we know it's important to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: have compassion for women, but it's also important that we
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: have compassion for men. I think we also have the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: seed of compassion for men. I think that's also something
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: that's taken us this far. But that's the seed we've forgotten.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: The seed we've germinated is the guyanescentric seed, and I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: think it's perfectly possible for us to continue to germinate
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: that seed, but to also plant a few seeds of
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: what's even the word.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: What have you ever heard that word before? How many
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: people have even heard that word before? Androphilia? What is
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: that thing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Having a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: love for men? What? What?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see if we can. Let's see if we
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: can have love for men in the same way we
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: have of a women. No, yes, I'm gay. I sound
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: like a fucking gay. Don't.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: If we don't start having that where we're, uh, we're
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: gonna see our our species die off. Yeah, Like we're
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: we are barely as as a species reproducing faster than
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: we are dying off right now, and we are slowing
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: our reproduction is slowing down worldwide. There are nations where
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: it's not slowing down that there are more nations where
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: it is, and a lot of it is because we
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: have full beyond compassion for women, we have deference, which
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: is not the same as compassion. Right and and a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: good example of this is what what some guys call
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: the peace tax. Right, your your wife, girlfriend, mom, sister,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: some woman at work, you know, whatever does or says
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: something that if a dude did it, you would call
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: him on it. You'd correct him, and he'd say, oh, okay,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: you know, Or you might have a little bit of
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: an argument, but if you proved your case, then he
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: would concede and adjust, because that's what most of the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: time guys do. Occasionally, there are guys that don't. They're
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: guys that will argue the point even though they know
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: they're wrong. But women do it all the time. And
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: on top of that, if you do prove her wrong,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: she's going to hold it against you like you've committed
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: a crime, rather than rescuing her from being wrong permanently,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: like you get a choice when you're wrong. You can
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: be wrong for a few minutes and then learn something
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: and go on not being wrong anymore because now you
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: know the correct information. Or you can be wrong forever
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: and die on that hill, which is stupid, but that's
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: what women do. And how dare you you know, they
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: say that they are wrong, and how dare you pull
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: them off of that hill even while it's being struck
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: by a thousand bolts of lightning, because that he'll belongs
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: to them. They have every right to it, and they'll
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: fry if they want to fry. It's their party, and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: they'll fry if they want to. So the peace tax
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: is when men hold their tongue. They don't what is
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: it men explain about something that women think they know
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: when they're wrong. And when you pay the piece tax,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: you know you are giving up a bit of yourself.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: You are exercising something that a lot of women don't understand,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: called humility. But at the same time, the sacrifice if
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: this is something of any importance, even if it's just
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: minor importance, she's gonna be not just can be wrong
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: in her head and in your head, she's gonna screw
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: something up, and maybe you have to let her fall.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe you have to let her suffer the consequences. Maybe
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: you have to let other people suffer the consequences so
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: that there is not a ten years war over that
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: day that you told her that she was wrong, Which
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: really that's men going overboard for ginocentrism, but the reason
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: behind it is because women go overboard for narcissism. Another
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: way to describe ginocentrism is female narcissism societal female narcissism.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: And we go back to those like those ancient stories
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: and different religions, like the ones I know, you know,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: the best of the Bible stories because that's what I
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: was raised in. People look at the original sant Adam
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: and Eve and the apple and everything, and you know,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: all the things that people get out of that story
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: about who should be in charge and all that. A
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: lot of times they miss the point that the trigger
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: inside of Eve for choosing to believe the serpent instead
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: of believing God was ego narcissism. Vanity. Vanity is the
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: devil's favorite sin, and it's unfortunately women's most frequently committed. Right,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: you'll be like God, you'll be special, you'll be wise,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna die from eating this, you're gonna learn
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: all kinds of things that God doesn't want you to know.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: You deserve, right, you deserve that knowledge. And Eve decided
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: she deserved and she ate the apple. And then she
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: was wasn't content to have sinned on her own. She
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: couldn't be the only person that did something wrong. So
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: she gave it to Adam, because because Adam may have
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: been gynocentric, and also he was right there and he
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: saw that, like the serpent said, she ate the apple
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: and she didn't die. I know it wasn't a literal apple,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: by the way, but therefore you know that that must
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: have been a lie. Well God didn't say instantly, but
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: he ate it. And now they both have consumed from
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: the tree of knowledge, and the rest of the story
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: is known. But it was ego. It was vanity that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: got that all started. The same thing that drives women
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: to spend between one and three hundred dollars a month
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: on makeup and fake fingernails and fake boobies and fake
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: butt cheeks and fake hair and fake eyelashes, fake height,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: high heeled shoes, new clothes. Even if you have a
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: whole closet full of clothes, you know that stuff that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: makes your waist thinner and your buttler bigger, and your
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: lips look fatter, and and and that's just the you know,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: that's the women that don't go and get procedures done
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: plastic surgery or have that thing that sucks your lips
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: out like a duck's bill, you know, or botox in
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: your face. This industry that caters to women by telling
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: them that they're not pretty enough, but they could be
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: if they would just spend you know this many thousands
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: of dollars. It's vanity. It is the biggest downfall of
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: humanity that we cater to women's vanity. We have more
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: compassion for women's need to feed their vanity than we
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: do for men's need to eat, sleep somewhere safe and warm,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: and maybe have access to utilities and medicine. More money
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: gets put into research on how to make women prettier
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: than and solving the homeless problem, figuring out how to
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: help get guys who are disadvantaged because they're mentally ill,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: or they're addicted to drugs, or they've had their down
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: on their luck for some other reason, off the street
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: and into a better situation. Seventy five percent of the homeless,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the unsheltered homeless. And you know, nobody,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: nobody gives enough of a flying fuck to say, maybe
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: we should do some research into how to curb this
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: this problem that's affecting these men so that they can
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: have better lives. Nope, we want to find out how
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: to make women look younger. We want to figure out
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: how to make women's asses look fatter, you know, make
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: women look like if they if they bend over too
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: far forward, they're going to fall, which, you know, not
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: too ironically.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: You know, the things that women do to make themselves
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: look younger eventually age them and make them look older.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true, Well, and do you know what botox is, yes,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: bacheline and yep, it's attenuated botulism.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: It's the most toxic, naturally occurring substance known to man.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: The words to use when they were little and as
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: a substitute for a cuss word because it sounds like one,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: but it isn't, so you know, instead of you know,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: like you hit your thumb with a hammer and study
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: la fuck you watualism. It worked for a few years.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: They all know fuck now, but they're adults. They're they're
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: like they're all, you know, over twenty five, so two
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: of them are over thirty. I'm old, so yeah, harmful,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: harmful gender attitudes and social numbers. And then we have
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: the last thing we'll go over tonight, dangerous social and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: dating behavior. We talked a little bit about that already, right,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: But this this one, they say the manisphere teaches young
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: men how to manipulate women into sex. Okay, so remember
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: in their first paragraph, in cells are the manisphere. So
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: this is their third paragraph, in the third paragraph, pickup
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: artists are the manisphere. Do you have any idea the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: size of the gap between in cells and pickup artists? Well,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: clearly they don't.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: Damned if you do, if you don't, caul in the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: possible way. Yeah, how do you how do we find
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: the middle ground between damned if you do and damned
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: if you don't. It just just don't do anything, no
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: way that that counts as don't. That's so damn So
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: any don't and make sure you don't run into any
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: x because those are also damned. Damned if you do,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: damned if you don't, damned. If you try to find
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: the middle ground, then it happens to be an ic.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: You might just get damn to every possible avenue.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Gentlemen.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: You know what really gives me the ick women who
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: get up set it men for doing normal things. Yeah,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: like that, Really something's wrong with that. There's there's a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: it's it's like watching somebody bite their fingernails back so
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: far that they bleed and then keep on going lit.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I had somebody somebody tweeted a picture of
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: somebody else's tweet screenshot of somebody else's tweet where she
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: she had said, never date men that have hobbies, because
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: you know the idea of men having personal interests in
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: ways to you know, use their creativity. Like somehow that
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: gave her the ick.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: Hobby is pleasing women? Oh that makes you APPETI not
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: pleasing women. Oh that makes you as a lot.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: But she's on social media, which is a hobby for women.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: It's attention seeking, Like I do this, you know, and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I'll cultivate attention in order to be able to post
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: about issues that I think people don't pay enough attention to.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: But a lot of women do this with you know,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: pictures of their butt or pictures of their dinner, or
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: or they figure out a way to put their tits
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: and their dinner in the same picture. Really clever.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: So I might call that a fetish. When women do it,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: it's not a fetish, it's a hobby. But it's not
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: a hobby either, because hobbies are icky. So when women
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: do it, it's just they're.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Just living their lives.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: Come on, gentlemen, just let women live their lives.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Like There are some influencers that make money that the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: majority don't make very much money and dedicate a shit
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: ton of energy into what they're doing. You know. Political
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: influencers at least have a cause, they have a reason.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: We see things that need to be changed in society,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: and we talk about it because we want other people
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: to understand about it, and then when they go and
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: engage with the civic system, they engage with those those understandings,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: those new understandings in mind. And that's so political influencers
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: are at least activists to some degree, you know, And
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: most don't get rich like Russ Limbaugh. Most have other jobs.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Some have two jobs besides their influencer thing. Social influencers
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: are a whole other deal like some of them. Again,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: they make a lot of ad money and stuff. A
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: lot of them don't, and they really are just doing
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: it for the dopamine hits they get when they see
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: how many people liked or shared their comments. And you know,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: when I look at my analytics, I don't look so
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: much at who liked and shared or how many people
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: liked and shared. I look at how many people saw it,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: because it's if it's an idea and I'm trying to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: get an idea across, that's the important number. But if you're,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to get approval for the presentation of
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: your peanut butter and jelly sandwich or whatever you had
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: for lunch, that the important button is the likes, right,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: the like buttons suddenly becomes your lifeline. You're tap in
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: a vein, trying to get more likes in there as
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: quickly as you can for those dopamine hits, and people
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: will be addicted to that shit. But yeah, and of
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: course you know these are the women, these women with
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: this hobby of seeking attention for things that are kind
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: of irrelevant. Nobody else gives a flying fuck what you
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: had for lunch unless you're gonna present something that they
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: might want a recipe for and they might want to
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: cook at home, and you could share that, say here's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: how to do this. It's really yummy. You should try it,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: or let me cook some for you sometime.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I think I just told women to make
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: people sandwiches out of a peanut butter sandwiches. I'm sexist.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: I make good sandwiches, not as good as the ones
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: my husband makes. But but yeah, nobody gives a flying
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: fuck what you had for lunch. Right, But that dopamine
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: hit that hobby. You know, you don't even realize you're
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: using your hobby to bitch about guys hobbies. You don't
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: even realize you're doing the thing that you're criticizing. So
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: this idea the manis for teaching young men how to
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: manipulate women into sex. Women use sex to manipulate men
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: into economic support, and to.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: So many of the hobbies that that women find it
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: icky in men.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: These hobbies can become correct. I'm gonna put my hand
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: up right now.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: Like my hobbies were making music and making chilly videos
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: and they are currently my career.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: And there are so many of us that like to.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: Do remedial jobs like being a postman or being a
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: McDonald's worker, and we do that shit while we work
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: on our hobbies, and if we're really good at our hobbies,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: then we can turn those hobbies into careers.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: And women do the same. A lot of women do
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, a lot of women, like you say, their hobbies
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: are telling people what they have for lunch, And I
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: guess that can become how much that there are a
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: lot of cooking channels on the internet or and the
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: television where people can like, well, just tell people what
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: they've had for lunch, but tell people how they cooked
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: it and how you can cook it too, And yeah,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: so almost anything you can do as a hobby can
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: become a career. Struggling to think of anything that couldn't
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: other than just telling people how you feel and how
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: much you fucking hate men. Oh wait, even that can
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: become a hobby. It can can become a career, an
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: academic career. No less, there are countless women who have
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: tenure universities just telling everyone about how much they hate men.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: So yeah, literally, any hobby can become a career. Oh,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: what's your fucking problem other than just trying to prevent
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: people from turning their hobby into a career, like be supportive,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: How difficult is it, ladies to be supportive of someone's interests,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: because that's all a hobby is. It's an interest that
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: can rise from a personal interest to a career that
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: can actually sustain you and maybe even make millions, maybe
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: even billions of dollars. I mean, think of all the
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: billionaires in the world, the people who began engaging in
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: a hobby that didn't make them any money at first,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: but then ended up making them billions of dollars. I mean,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: that's the only difference between a hobby and a career.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: It's it's how much the hobbyist is supported in their hobby.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: So fucking support people that this is not difficult.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Lauren, did you have something you were unmuted? No, I'm
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: sorry I was, I was coughing. I just wanted I
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: wanted to make sure before I jumped in. But I
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: one of my I've had a couple of careers. I
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: had a career in retail, and you can call it
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: that because I've worked in various retail outlets anywhere from
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: bottom rung to just below store management for over over
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: the course of about thirty years time. And I did
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: the same thing with photography. I had a photography career
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: and I recently got out a reminder of how much
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: fun that was, how much I enjoyed it before I moved.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not known in the area where
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: I live for my work, and so finding more work
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: here is very difficult. It very competitive area, a lot
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: of photographers in the Dayton metro area. So I relied
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: more on the retail thing. But my father was who
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: taught me photography, started teaching me when I was a
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: little kid, because he was an educator and his hobby
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: was photography, and he did turn it into a money
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: making hobby. He was In fact, he had a career
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: as an educator. He also had a career as a journalist,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: and he had a career as a wedding and portrait
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: and commercial photographer. He also was a coach and he
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: ran the yearbook and photography club at the school where
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: he taught, and so he needed a lot of things.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: So somebody tells men that their their job, their primary
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: job is all they should be doing, and everything else
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: should be dedicated to their wives. I'll tell you how
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: my mom handled my dad's hobbies. She learned photography from him,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: and she discovered how much she enjoyed it. She's artistic
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: she was artistic. She painted, She played piano. My dad
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: played by ear. My mom played from reading music. Dad
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: couldn't read music. I can't read music very well. I
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: played by ear for years. I don't know if I
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: still could. It's been a long time. I'm trying to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: get back into it. And they did that together too,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: you know. But they did photography together. They ran a
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: business together, they did artwork together, they learned photography together,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: and they taught my brother and me photography together. And
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: it was one of the many different ways that they
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: bonded with each other. And they both had hobbies, each
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: one that the other didn't have. Little hobbies like my
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: dad built model cars and he did a little bit
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: of sculpting and stuff like that. And Mom didn't get
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: into that. But she got very much into baking. And
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: you know, she sewed. Dad didn't sew. So they had
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: their own hobbies, but they shared hobbies that they could
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: take a shared interest in, and they appreciated each other's hobbies.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Mom enjoyed having dad's cars on display. Dad wore things
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: that Mom made for him. We all did. My mom
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: was an excellent, excellent tailor. I had stuff people thought
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: when we went places, and people didn't know us. They
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: would look at the stuff that my mother made and
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: they thought we were rich. We were really not, but
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: people did. There was one lady that yelled at us
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: because she thought we were from Cleveland Heights and at
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: the time, I don't know if it is still but
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: at the time that was a hoity toity, wealthy area. Uh.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: In any case, hobbies can be something that you can
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: bond over, but women have this tendency to be like, well,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: it's a self interest. If a guy has any interest
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: in himself, if he's not completely subservient to me, that
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: gives me the itck, Like why do you want to
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: make yourself so responsible for a guy that he has
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: to be a robot that serves only you and you
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: have to tell him what to do and you have
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: to take complete control over his personality and his life
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: and that kind of like can't you just enjoy being
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: loved by a whole person and loving him back? And
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: apparently many women can't, right, So it's it's not just
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: this idea that men manipulate women into sex. Women manipulate men.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Men will start dating a woman and they'll decide whether
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: or not they can trust her and partner with her
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: for life, whether this is the woman that might raise
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: their children, if they're going to have children, or weather.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: You know, that they can trust that this woman will
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: a with them and not leave, you know, and not
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: take half their shit.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Women will start dating a guy and he immediately becomes
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: a fixer upper project. She's madly head over heels in
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: love with him. He's absolutely perfect, and therefore there's about
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: thirty seven different things she needs to change about him,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: including who his friends are, and his entire wardrobe and
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: what things he does for fun and how he talks right,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: and his haircut and you know, like some other laundry
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: list of bullshit things that as soon as she's done
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: molding and shaping him into the different guy than that
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: guy she got together was, she's going to complain that
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: she doesn't recognize him anymore. Then she's going to leave
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: him and take half a shit. But yeah, the man
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: is fear is dangerous, guys, because the manisphere teaches men,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: young men, how to manipulate women into sex. So I'm
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: assuming they're talking about pick up artists. I think pick
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: up artists are dipshits because they are advising men to
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: do something that is not healthy for them to do.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: It's not safe, it gets you into trouble, and you're
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: putting yourself at risk for all of the things we
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: talked about at the beginning of the show, right, But
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: then they go on even gendered.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, you know what's not a hobby,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: being in the UN.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know how the fuck anyone goes from from
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: a lowly status to being in the UN because no
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: one has a.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Hobby of dictating what everyone in the world should do,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: and they and then they suddenly get a career from
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: telling everyone in the world what they should do.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, un women, if anything, you should be pointing
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: the fucking crossairs on yourself and asking how the fuck
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: you came to be hey, when your is not a hobby,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: it's just pure.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: Your bunch of cunts. Sorry, carry on hand.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, go go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: I'm finished. That's all I need to say.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: No one of these people hate hobbies because what they
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: do was never a hobby.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: It was always just a grift. Megal of maniacs pursuing
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: the megalo mania.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, So they go on to say even gendered
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: hate speech is becoming normalized, making its way into school
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: yards and workplaces. When I was a kid, somebody bought
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: me a T shirt that said anything boys can do,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: girls can do better. And I watched school one day
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: because I was a kid, kids don't think these things through.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: And the biggest argument that ever happened in our the
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: history of our school, happened that day on the playground
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: over that T shirt. I don't think I reward again
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: after that. But there was the question, you know what,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: what's the evidence? What can you know girls do the
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: boys can't. And of course girls all when well, girls
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: can have babies, and boys rightfully pointed out, not till
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: you grow up, not till you get older, you can't
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: have baby. Right now, we're in the third grade. You
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: can't even conceive. And we, unfortunately a lot of us
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: all knew the birds and the bees by that time,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: before we got our sex education in school. Of all things,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: the one thing the girls had to concede was the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: boys could pee standing up and not get any on themselves.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: And most girls can't do that. They don't have the
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: muscle control. It's possible to do that, but you have
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: to be able to fire fast and hard. And get
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: it all out at once.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: But the boys, I mean, if you lose muscling to
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: muscle control.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then you're gonna be pee on your feet.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: You're going to pee on the seat, and then you
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: have to well yes, yeah, but.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, by the end of the argument, you know,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: it was it was conceded that that boys could be
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: standing up and girls can't. And they didn't even concede
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: that that guys are stronger because at that age not
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: very many of them were. You know, like now two
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: years later, they would have had no choice because the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: guys could have proved it, I can pick you up,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: but you can't pick me up. Would be like about
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: half the guys of the class could have said that
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: to about three quarters of the galleys in the class
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: and been right. But but yeah, the gendered hate speech, right,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: and what do they think is gendered hate speeches? On
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: this page here? And if this is an interview, so
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: we're not going to go through the whole thing, but
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: she said it. The most common form of attack, she says,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: on women's rights defenders and activists women in politics journalis
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: is harassment and defamation, including criminalization, fabricated charges against women's
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: human rights defenders arbitrarily detaining them, turning into turning them
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: into political prisoners. So that's their idea of gendered hate
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: speech becoming the norm, and there's nothing in here that
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: demonstrates that it is becoming common on school campuses. It's
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: all about adult women, and in particular women like the
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: women of the un Right. But I just want to
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: remind everybody, you know, when they talk about criminalization and
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: detainment and stuff, we've had bomb threats. We've had groups
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: try to get as kicked out of places, and they
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: did succeed in one place by mobbing the the administrators
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: of the event on social media and essentially getting our
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: presence there criminalized in terms of the rules of the location. Right,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: but we've had bomb threats the Men's Rights movement, we've
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: had we've had to change venues for our events because
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: of bomb threats. We've had many men in the organization
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: have faced attacks where women have tried to accuse them
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: of harassment or accuse them of saying and doing things
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: they didn't do. We have a consistent false allegation against
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: the movement and against in cells where feminists have a
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: list of men who were you know, those fucked and
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: the head violent criminals often guys that were raised without
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: a father, by the way, who have engaged in mass killings,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: that haven't got a connection with the men's rights movement.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: They haven't got a connection necessarily with the in cell
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: population either, the in cell community, but they refer to
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: them as in cells and therefore men's rights activists, which
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: there's some overlap in the groups two groups, but not
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: as much as you would think, because a lot of
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: in cels don't have that much hope. But then then
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: and they've claimed that they are representative of us and
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: that their attacks were strictly misogynistic even if they killed men, right,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: those men killing misogynists? But yeah, uh gendered hate speech
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: against women right. Hashtag kill all men on on Twitter
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: was prevalent, prominent, frequently used, treated like it's just a joke, bro,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't be so upset, bro, No, this is this
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: is why men shouldn't be allowed to live men or
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: men are so humorless, bro. Tag kill all men. There
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: are not terms targeting women, like the term mansplaining, which
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: was originally poined to mock men for talking about having
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: the same complaints that women have. On some levels. For instance,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: men can be sexual assault victims, men can be domestic
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: abuse victims, and when they experience that, it's just as
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: painful and harmful, it's just as much a violation of
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: their person, and it's just as toxic for the community,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes worse. Right, So, when men talk about what they
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: think of these circumstances, how they feel about these circumstances,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: what changes they would like to see made, what help
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: they might need, feminists accused them of mansplaining. We already
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: know what it's like to be abuse victims. All women
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: are abuse victims. The patriarchy, blah blah blah. How dare
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: you take our spotlight, our victim spotlight? Men who have
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: been stabbed, hit with frying pans, poisoned, shot, had other
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: men sicked on them by women, men, men who have
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: been drugged and raped by women, Men who have been
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: drugged and robbed by women. And yeah, that's where the
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: term man'splaining originally came from. Now they talk about it
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: like it's, you know, trying to explain things to women
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: that they already know because they must not know because
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: they're women. But that's bullshit. They just had to come
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: up with something to redeem the term man spreading. A
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: woman can sit on the bus and spread out bags
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: two feet on either side of her, taking up three seats,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: or put her feet up on the seat, and she's
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: not taking up too much space. But if a man's
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: knees are more than two inches apart, he's man spreading.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: That's not hateful, right. Women will suggest that men have
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: to be genitally mutated and scarred in order to be
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: attractive to women. Can you imagine if women said that,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: if men said that about women? How do women react
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: when you start talking about female genital mutilation? But the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: idea that you have to cut off a chunk of
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: skin that when you reach adulthood would be the size
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: of a credit card, remove that much skin from your
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: body during infancy so that later on in life you'll
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: be attractive to women, they don't consider that hate speech.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: The idea that it's just not the same to sexually
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: victimize a man as it is to sexually victimize a woman,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: that men are lesser victims when they're they're raped or
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: when they're abused by their partner. Feminists promote that on
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: a regular basis. That's not hate speech, that's not a
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: dangerous social norm that's not a negative stereotype of men,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: that they're being one if they complain when when our
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: wife hits them with a frying pan, that they're being
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: that they have boundary issues. If the discussion is about
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: sexual victims and their psychological damage, and they tell their
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: story and they talk about what they went through, how
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: can we as as a population in the world continue
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: that and consider ourselves to be civilized and enlightened. Say
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: this is we teach women, our society, our whole world
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: population teaches women and girls that the absolute worst thing
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: that can ever happen to you in your whole life,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: worse than death, is being raped. And I'm here to
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: tell you it does suck. It is awful. It is
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: a horrible experience that's humiliating and painful and can be
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: scary as how, depending on what the details are. Right, Like,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: somebody is violent toward you or uses a weapon. That's terrifying,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not afraid to admit that it's
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: terrifying enough. They can be paralyzing, right because you're afraid
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: you might die, Not just because you're afraid they're going
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: to force intimacy on you, because you're afraid you might die.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: It's not worse than death. It's it can be horrible
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: and not be worse than death. And similarly, the idea
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: of being pregnant after being raped. Imagine this scenario right,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Imagine if the minute the baby's delivered, the rapist gets
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: to come in and take the baby away, and you
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: can never see the baby again. That's what happens when
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: a man is raped and his rapist conceives she has
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: custody at birth, and unless she goes after him for
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: child support, he may not even get an opportunity to
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: get paternity tested, especially not if he isn't recognized by
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: the state as a victim. If no charges are brought,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: no trial, no penalty, he just has to deal with
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: it and his child, his kid might be being raised
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: by a sexual predator and there's nothing you can do
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: about it. You think that's not traumatic.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: And she gets to take his false gain, she gets
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: to take your your child, And those are among the
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: two worst things that can happen to a human being,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: Taking your child and taking parts of his body along
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: with them. Present to me any anything that's worse than
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: either of those two things.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: Being murdered, well, that's the only thing. But I mean,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: being murdered is ultimately the worst thing that can happen
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: to a person. Although honestly, if you had being murdered
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: isn't worse than losing your child. Being murdered might be
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: worse than losing losing some flesh, even if it important flesh,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: if you can survive without it. Like if somebody said,
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  Speaker 1: let me cut off your foot or I'm going to
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: kill you, I would give up my foot. I would
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: rather stay alive. And when someone said you better sit
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: still and take it, I did because I didn't want
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: to get shot. That's the way it is. You know
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: what's worse than death when you're willing to tolerate it
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: in order to avoid death. But I would rather die
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: than lose one of my kids. I would rather die
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: a thousand times than lose one of my kids. I've
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: had nightmares about that, about losing one of my kids.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: It's the most horrible thing, and it haunts you, the
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: nightmare that when you wake up and you realize it
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: didn't really happen and you're relieved, the nightmare still haunts
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: you for years. Like my heart goes out to parents
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: who are alienated from their children and to parents whose
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: children have died, like I just cannot fathom how horrible
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: that must be. Well, that is the worst thing that
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: can happen to a human being, to lose your children.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: And it's routinely done to men, routinely on the basis
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: of false allegations of being dangerous to them, with no
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: basis at all for the allegations, not even actions on
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: the part of the man. Just he's a man, therefore
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: he's dangerous. The National Organization for Women in the United States,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: several organizations in Canada that are feminist organizations, and you
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: and Women now because we just read about it last week,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: have spent years, decades opposing shared parenting rights of different types,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: from joint custody to shared parenting and now to equally
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: shared parenting. They've opposed that on the basis of demonizing
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: wholesale men in general, and especially fathers, as deadbeats and
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: abusers who don't love their kids and just want to
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: take them away from the mother and just want to
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: avoid child support and are going to beat them to
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: death at the first opportunity, even though statistically, the majority
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: of child maltreatment, whether it's a physical abuse sexual abuse,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: psychological abuse, neglect. Female perpetrated women do it, and approximately
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: seventy percent of children who are killed by one parent
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: acting alone using one of those types of abuse are
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: usually neglect, but not always also violence. They're killed by
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: their mother, not their father. So the stereotype is bullshit,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: and feminists know that it's bullshit, but they're still using it.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: Is that not gendered hate speech calling men something that
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: they are not in order to take their children away
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: from them.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: Well, as I've often heard, men are killed all the time,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: but because they're killed by men, it doesn't matter.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't count men.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: Men don't count expect him as long as they're killed
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: by other men.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: So if a female babies are killed by women, that
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: doesn't mant right that.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: The victims are primarily boys. That's the other thing, the majority,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: and it's it's not a big gap between the sexes,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: but boys edge girls out in terms of being more
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: often killed by their mothers. So that's yeah, And it's
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: usually kids under the age of a year, so infants.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: The greatest perpetrators of infanticide are women, and that's not
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: counting abortion abortion. If you throw that in, I asked
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: groc let me see if I I don't think I'm
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: not signed in on my Google account? Oh shit, hell
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: is this so you guys probably can't, Probably can't, I know.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: I opened up my other browser and it started open.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: It opened up a YouTube video that I had opened
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: at some point in the past. There we go. So
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: I asked groc, let me see if I can just
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: share this link here. And the way I phrased this question.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: I phrased it this way because normally now murder is
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: defined homicide is defined as our murder is defined as deliberate,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: not accidental, non negligent killing. Homicide with with an asterisk.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: Negligent homicide is a different thing, right, And accidental homicide
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: where there wasn't anything you could do to prevent it
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: sometimes isn't prosecuted. Self defense isn't prosecuted. You don't get
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: prosecuted for being a soldier in a war unless you
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: come to war crime and lose, or your side is
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: more moral than the other side. So and a death penalty.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: The government isn't considered a murderer for killing people, right,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: So I excluded those things. Right, if we defined homicides
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: as the deliberate killing of any human being, of any
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: age by another human being, excluding things that most people
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: wouldn't think of as homicide. In other words, and we
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: counted all strictly elective abortions, that being, you know, not
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: for medical reasons to protect the mother from, you know,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: a a medically detrimental outcome that the pregnancy was going
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: to cause. What percentage of homicides worldwide would be female perpetrated?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: And GROC went through a whole series of looked at
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: traditional homicides, elective abortions, global statistics on male and female
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: perpetrated elective abortions. You know, obviously if we counted the
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: mother as the perpetrator and not the abortionist as the perpetrator,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: because the mother is contracting a contract killer there, you know,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: And then went through various key inputs here and even
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: the fact that other forms of killing are mostly done
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: by men. Traditional homicides less than seven tenths of one
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: percent of the total are negligible compared to elective abortions,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: so the female percentage hovers near ninety nine point four percent,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: regardless of minor variations. This holds even if excluding fetal sex,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: as the query specifies a human being of any age,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: including fetuses, or adjusting for underreporting. So even with underreported homicide,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: ninety nine point four percent, over ninety nine percent of
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: human death in the world is caused by women over
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: or of humans killing other humans. Sorry, not human death.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: Although the leading cause of human death in the world
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: is being aborted, it edges out even cardiopulmonary conditions, though
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: it's quite a factor. In some areas, girls are more
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: likely to be aborted for various reasons, and in some
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: areas boys are more likely to be aborted for various reasons.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: But in every pregnancy that is aborted electively, in other words,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: the mother chooses it. The perpetrator is the mother, not
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: some stranger, you know, not someone rob in the house,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: not partner violence. And that's three and ten pregnancies that
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: that's happening with, by the way, because I check those
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: statistics too, Three in ten pregnancies worldwide it ends in
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: an elective abortion. So all of this this stereotyping men
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: as violent, all of this stereotyping men as dangerous and
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: men as natural killers, where women would never do anything
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, well, if you count abortion, there's a
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: whole different story there, and there's there's a lot of
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: us that do because it is a living human organism
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: that is being killed. In that instance, even AI can
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: recognize that the magical vagina, the birth canal, does not
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: bestow humanity, the being a member of the human species
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: onto the baby on its way through. It was human,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: and it was alive before it popped out, whether male
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: or female, and it is genetically distinct from the mother
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: because it also has the father's d in it. So
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's a horrible fact, but it is a fact.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: And yet who gets demonized as violent and women who
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: you know, there's another thing that you got to understand
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: about this, right, Just like the fact that the majority
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: of violent crime is committed by a small percentage of
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: mostly repeat offenders, the same is true about abortion. A
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: lot of abortion is done by a small percentage of
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: repeat offenders, and they're very blase about it. I had
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: a colleague at work when I was in retail that,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: you know, she was young, and like she was eighteen
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: years old, and she had already had four abortions, and
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: she talked about it like you know, you would talk
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: about getting your toenails clip. She had no consideration for
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: what she had done at all, didn't care didn't feel
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: bad about it, didn't have feelings about it, any feelings
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: about it at all, because she didn't think of them
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: as human beings. So so there you go. Yeah, it's uh,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: it's men who are dangerous, right. You'd rather be in
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: the woods alone with a bear than a man. A
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: night motorcyclist says, get nine abortions in the tenth when
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: is free. No, it doesn't work that way. And by
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: the way, in the profession, there are more female practitioners
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: than male and most of the staff are female as well.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: So it is a mostly female run industry that does
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: this baby killing and then those parts do get sold off.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: That's been proved. So so there you go. But we
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: have this perception, right, this belief that it's men who
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: are dangerous to children. More and more school teachers are
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: getting busted. Female school teachers are getting busted for raping
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: their students, and of course the news media doesn't report
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: it that way, right, this twenty year old school teacher.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: I saw one headline in which they actually said attractive
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: school teacher the attractive rapist. They ain't call her a rapist.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: Attractive school teacher jailed for it was like illicit relationship
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: or some shit like that with student, and then you
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: find out you look at the story and you find
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: out the student was like thirteen, not an illicit relationship.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: This is a thirteen year old. He cannot consent. You
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: are a rapist, lady, But the news media doesn't say that.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: I don't call her a rapist, right, And they mentioned
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: she's attracted. Can you imagine attractive men breaks into women's
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: houses and has sex with them, attractive refugee from Fukistan.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: It's a highly subjective term, isn't it.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's that's the thing, you know. It's it's
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: usually a female privilege, like you completely and utterly obliterate
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: the boundaries of a poor, innocent child, and the news
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: media says, oh, but she was attractive, It's okay, Like, fuck, no,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: it wasn't. That kid's going to be messed up for
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: the rest of his life. He is now up to
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: forty four times more likely to abuse chemical substances, up
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: to fourteen times more likely to commit suicide. He has
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: a higher likelihood of developing a laundry list of mental
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: health conditions, a lower likelihood of graduating, lower likelihood of
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: going on to college, a lower likelihood of being able
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: to form a productive relationship, a loyal and functional relationship
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: with a partner in adulthood. If he's If he's gay,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: he might be confused about that. If he's straight, he
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: might be confused about that. And there's also a slightly
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: higher chance that he might become sexually aggressive than there
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: is that any other boy in his class would, or
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: any girl sexually abused. Same thing. If a student sexually
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: abuses a girl child, she may have those those saints.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: But in any case, it's it's the boy who's been
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: raped one generation before or the boy who's been raped
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: one generation after, who will go on to.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: Be blamed, yep, for the the rape culture or whatever
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 6: the fuck it is. We're calling it now, and it'll
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 6: just go on and on forever until we can, you know,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 6: address the idea.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: Sometimes boys are raped too, sometimes women.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: Are rapists too, because that's that's the thing that seems
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: to be missing.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the long run, it does create a cycle,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's it actually creates a couple of cycles,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: because there's another thing that happens that it's less reported
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: on with victims of childhood sexual abuse. Sometimes we go
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: on to become what feminists like to refer to as
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: poly victims, which basically means your ability to defend your
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: boundaries was erased. You don't understand that you have a
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: right to your own boundaries. Other people's boundaries are not
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: the only boundaries that are allowed to exist. And you
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: can also say you know no further than this line.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do this thing. I don't want
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: to participate. I don't want to be touched or taken
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: advantage of. And you don't protect yourself. You don't have
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: situational awareness. You don't have you don't recognize bad character,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: You don't vet for character in the people that you
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: associate with. You may compromise yourself with substances in situations
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: where the people that you're with are untrustworthy and things
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: like that, and you find yourself getting victimized again and again,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: not just sex, but in a lot of other ways
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: as well. People talk you into spending money on them
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: that you can't afford, or going out of your way
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: and spending labor on them that you can't afford. People
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: take advantage of you in every way that they can
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: figure out how to get something from you, until you
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: learn later in life, either from therapy or from you know,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: I looked out. I came across a community of people
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: that recognized the pattern and said, hey, you can tell
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: people know you know, you can. You can put the
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: kabash to to behaviors like that. You don't have to
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: spend all your money on other people, you know, and
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: and end up in trouble financially, you don't have to
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: have them all your time on other people and end
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: up in the hospital. Right, And so yeah, becoming a
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: poly victim is another pattern.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: And yes, I'm gonna get highly controversial now on both
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: sides of the aisle, But yes, maybe this does apply
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: to some of the quote unquote fighting age men who
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 4: are being rushed out of these third world countries into
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 4: these western countries. And yes, a lot of them do
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: seem to be quite rapy. But how many of us
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 4: have asked why these men are being executed from these
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: countries in the first place. And yes, maybe it's because
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 4: they're a very rapi, But how did they become so
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: rapi in the first place?
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: And then you have to ask how did they become
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: so rapi in the first person?
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 4: You might say it's because of their cultures, it's a
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: culture in which men are naturally taught to be rapy.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: And who teaches them that?
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: Indeed, who rapes them into that? But then you have
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 4: to ask the question of is it possible that third
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: world women are quite rapy?
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 4: No, third world women are his total victims in the
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: third World. It is only women who get raped. No, No,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: Heavens to Betsy, No, women never rape men in the
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: Third World. That would no known guests. Yes, I mean no,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: I mean yes, I mean yeah.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: There was a thread on Twitter a while back. I
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: think I talked about this last week too, where a
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: bunch of guys talked about the fact that their first
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: experience was a woman forcing themselves, forcing herself on. And
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: we're talking their first experience being when they were under
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: age junior high high school, early high school, and a
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: significant portion of the thread, the comments in the thread
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: from guys who had some story or another of a
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: woman who was old enough to be their grandmother or
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: their you know, their their mom's older sister imposing herself
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: on when they were that age to teach them how
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: to be a man. A lot of them were black,
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of them were African actually, and because of
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: the dominance of stories from black African men and black
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: American men in that thread. Twitter deleted it. This was
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: before Musk. Before Musk, by the way, can be abbreviated BM,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: just like Bowel Movement, and Twitter was shit before Musk.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: But that that thread, I had my attention drawn to
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: it when it was just starting out, and I just
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: kept I would think. I got to the end of
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: the posts and it, you know, you read these guys'
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: experiences and it's just heartbreaking and you won't, you know,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: like I'm in tears reading this post, and I'm like, geez,
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: I can't believe how many this there are here, and
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: your fresh the page and there's more, and there's there
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: kept being more and more until you couldn't even trace
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: the thread back up to the original post where one
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: guy told the story and stated as suspicion was more
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: common than people thought, and then asked in yeah, it
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: was a hell of a thread and it was a
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: hell of a wake up call. I didn't realize it
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: happened that much to boys. I didn't realize it happened
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: that much to other girls, much less that it happened
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: that much to boys. And here it looks like it's
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: a lot more common for boys, because there is there's
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: never a misconception that a thirteen year old girl is
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: being done a favor by an adult who takes sexual
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: advantage of her. Nobody, at least in the US, nobody
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: argues that a thirteen year old girl is better off
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: because some forty year old guy raped. Nobody makes that argument,
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: but they do when it's a thirteen year old boy
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: and a forty year old woman, and that's disgusting, and
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: make that argument.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 4: It's normalized, and it goes beyond the West that we'd
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 4: like to talk. This is why we at Honeybags Radio
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 4: are fighting such an uphill battle, because it's because it
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 4: goes beyond the left and the right here in the West.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 4: The left like to argue that straight whit it says
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 4: men are the ones who rape everyone, and on the
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 4: right they like to argue that it's just the foreign
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 4: men who rape everyone. But in all cases it's it's
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  Speaker 4: men are the problem and women are the victims. And
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  Speaker 4: we're we're like, you're saying, you know, it's actually all
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  Speaker 4: over the world in which male victims are overlooked and
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  Speaker 4: a female victim.
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  Speaker 1: Are female perpetrators or overlook.
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  Speaker 4: It's just generally assumed that all victims of sexual assault
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  Speaker 4: or any kind of assault females. And that is perhaps
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  Speaker 4: why millions of men are being ejected from the Third World,
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  Speaker 4: because in the Third World they don't give a shit
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  Speaker 4: about men either, especially not the men who have been
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  Speaker 4: raped by women.
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  Speaker 3: What surely no Third World men would get raped by women.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, actually yes, this is a worldwide problem.
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  Speaker 4: It's not just in the West, not just because we've
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  Speaker 4: become a decadent society that can afford to give women
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  Speaker 4: all of these secessions as to being the only victims.
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  Speaker 3: Now, it's the same in the third one.
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  Speaker 4: No matter how poor a society or a country is,
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  Speaker 4: there is this tendency to assume that all women are
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  Speaker 4: victims and all men are perpetrators. And if a man
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  Speaker 4: becomes a perpetrator, it can't possibly be because he is
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  Speaker 4: the victim of a woman. Dare I say women. I
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  Speaker 4: know it's hard to even talk about women as a
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  Speaker 4: collective in the Third World, as a collective that is
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  Speaker 4: in any way responsible for any of these atrocities. But
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  Speaker 4: this is the double edged sword of ideologies and religions.
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  Speaker 4: Are any given ideology. Either more decadent any given society
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  Speaker 4: or religion becomes the more they tend to apply these
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  Speaker 4: victim mentalities to whoever they are designed, not necessarily evolutionarily designed,
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  Speaker 4: but societally designed to apply these victim mentalities. And yet
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  Speaker 4: it's so often a shortcoming of the right as well
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  Speaker 4: as the left, to assume that in these Third World countries,
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  Speaker 4: in these far away countries, it's men oppressing women from
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  Speaker 4: the top to the bottom, from from the political level
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  Speaker 4: at the top to the domestic level at the bottom,
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  Speaker 4: that it's that in some way it's men oppressing women.
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  Speaker 3: It's men who rape women.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, this is this is why we remain at
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  Speaker 4: the bottom of the pecking order, folks, because we're here
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  Speaker 4: letting you know that even in the dustiest parts of
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  Speaker 4: the Third World, there are men getting raped by women.
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  Speaker 4: They are especially boys getting raped by women. And those
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  Speaker 4: boys are the ones who develop these anti social tendencies,
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  Speaker 4: these criminal tendencies, and those boys become the men who
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  Speaker 4: those Third world societies.
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  Speaker 3: Don't want anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And so those men are the ones who get put
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  Speaker 4: on the boats. Well, those men are the ones who
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 4: look for the boat so that they can go to
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  Speaker 4: other countries.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little bit close. They gotta they want to
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  Speaker 1: escape and their country wants to get rid of them.
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  Speaker 1: Just like when the US had that one foot on
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: the beach policy for Cuban refugees, that if they got
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: one foot on the beach, you know, they were able
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: to stay or at least apply for asylum. Then then
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: Castro emptied out his prison in his mental institutions of
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: mostly men that were in one way or another dysfunctional,
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: and put them on boats and sent them here. And
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: so in addition to actual refugees from Cuba, we got
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: those people.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, the the miss Andrei problem, gentleman, is not
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 4: limited to our own society. It is global, and it's
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 4: largely because I don't want to blame the West for everything,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 4: but the fact that the West has inflicted this.
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  Speaker 3: Decadency on everyone. I mean, for the same.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 4: Reason the reason Indians keep dumping so much plastic in
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 4: the River Ganges, it is because the West has supplied
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 4: them with so much plastic. That's not to say the
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 4: Indians are blameless and all these things. They're just they
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 4: weren't ready for the idea that they would have a civilization.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 4: I covered in so much plastic.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 3: The West knew how to deal with the plastic in
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 3: the first place, because they had these ways of disposing
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 4: Recycling it perhaps, and there's a whole other fucking sorry
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 4: about how recycling doesn't work. But in the same way,
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 4: the East wasn't prepared to deal with the feminist bullshit
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 4: that was inflicted.
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  Speaker 3: Upon them by the West.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, we've done it best to just eject ourselves
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: from the East when they said, no, we don't want
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 4: you any more British Empire. We want to be independent,
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 4: and we went all right bye, And yes we did.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 4: We did extract most of our culture from these places,
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 4: but we left the feminism there. The few people that
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 4: we left there to try and to try and be peacemakers,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 4: alas most of them stayed there trying to enact what
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 4: they thought was the best part of the West, And
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 4: what they thought that was the best part of the
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 4: West was the feminism and the producing endless amounts of
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 4: disposable plastic. The the line of comparison I'm trying to
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 4: draw the third World East didn't know how to how
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 4: to deal with plastic, and they didn't know how to
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 4: deal with feminism. They took it too far, and that's
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 4: what we need to attract, right, that's what we need.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: That's that's what we really need to decolonize. Right when
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 4: it comes to India and Africa and all these other
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 4: places we we we've we've spent a century or so
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 4: saying sorry for applying all the things that we applied,
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 4: but we need to start saying sorry for all the plastic.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry for all the feminism. I'm sorry for all
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: the democracy.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 4: That's feminism hit for any of this feminism hit.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, feminism hit India like a dirty bomb. It what
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: it did there is so bad that like the the
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: the rate at which men in India are committing suicide
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: to get away from it is horrendous, that's absolutely insane.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: Like the last number I saw was something like one
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: man every eight seconds and just which is just an
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: appalling idea, but it's it's had two specific effects. One
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: of them one of them is the breakup of marriages
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: and families and the other one is the withholding of
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: food from men in poverty situation that both of those
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: are incredibly dire because the way the families are breaking up.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: Their anti dowry law was written in such a way
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: that entire families are getting jailed on false allegations. And
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: in terms of you know, abuse, because women are able
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: to obtain money and obtain property by leveling dowry abuse allegations,
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: there's a high rate of false allegations. And then they're
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: also able to do that and families are able to
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: get compensation for leveling rape allegations. So if a family
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: has a particular marriage planned for their daughter and she
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: runs off with some other guy, they just level a
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: rape allegation to get her back and they and they
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: get they get her back, and they can go after
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: the guy for compensation even if he isn't criminally charged.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: And so they have a rate of false rape allegations
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: in India that is somewhere between sixty five percent of
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: allegations and eighty five percent of allegations being false. And
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: the reason that there's that that fan is that twenty
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: percent of allegations are accounted for by parents making the
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: allegations an objection to elopements and so and and there's
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: there's another phenomenon there women making allegations of rape because
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: of breach of promise to marry and so a guy
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: they feel that a guy should marry them, whether whether
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: he's promised to or not, and they have sexual with them,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: thinking that it's going to cement the relationship and that's
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: going to make him marry them, and then he doesn't,
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: and then they file a rape charge and guys have
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: trouble defending themselves against that, and so what ends up
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: happening then is, you know, men are in are committing
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: suicide over being falsely accused and having their families go
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: through everything that they go through because of it. And
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't help that it's India is an
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: honor culture in that a man who is accused of
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: something like that will get dragged out of his home
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: by his neighbors and beaten to death. Though it is
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: a hell of a situation.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: And the way that they've handled the issue of breach
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: of promise to marry leading to so many false rape
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: allegations is that they I understand correctly, they've passed the
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: law now that if you promise to marry in order
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: to get sex and then you don't marry, then that's
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: rape in India now, so that they won't be labeled
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: false rape accusers when that happens. But I don't know
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: if the woman has to actually prove or not that
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: there was a promise, because a lot of women do
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: this thing right where they assume, and if the guy
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: isn't on the same page, then he's broken a promise
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: that he didn't even make. But with that, I think
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to end it because it's almost ten o'clock.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: It's it's actually nine thirty seven right now, which is
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: pretty late for Brian to keep doing this, and we
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: still have quite a bit of this article to go,
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: so we're not going to finish it today. So we'll
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: start with talking about the digital spaces, and I'm sure
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: we'll probably have a lot to say about that next week.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: In the meantime, I do not see any super anything,
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: no super chest, no superchows, and no rumble rants that
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: we're paid. But I'm going to read off of Superchow
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: from a previous show. Richard Bierre, who at that time
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: gave us five dollars, said what do you get for
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: the woman who has everything and marketting back to the
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: beginning of our show, his answer is penicillin. Oh there
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: you go, but a and that's that's the sad truth.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: Like in today's situation, penicillin might not do any good.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: So thanks guys for going going through this with me
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: and the great discussion. And it may have wandered, but
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: it wandered in ways that I think are very important
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: to discuss. So that was good. And thanks everybody for listening,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: and thanks to everybody who works in the background and
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: make HBr talk happen, especially Brian who has gone the
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 1: extra mile to make sure that we can have the
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: vertical YouTube channel and YouTube chat cat idle word.
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 7: Men's Right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 7: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 7: deal with, especially if you have like especially if you
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 7: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 7: On top of that too, holy shit, you're fuck