Latest / The World of Phil Hendrie / Episode #3833 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive Hour
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- 1:18Speaker 2: I really like this when it's from two thousand and five.
- 1:19Speaker 2: It's Dean Wheeler. Dean Wheeler is a character that I
- 1:22Speaker 2: based on a guy that I actually met outside of
- 1:24Speaker 2: a hotel in Las Vegas one morning. I was on
- 1:26Speaker 2: my way to the airport and this guy was standing
- 1:28Speaker 2: there and had a big smile on his face.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Is that how you doing?
- 1:30Speaker 3: How'd you do?
- 1:30Speaker 2: And he goes, oh terrible. He was smiling as he
- 1:33Speaker 2: said to me, oh terrible. I dropped thirty grand at
- 1:35Speaker 2: playing dice last night. Oh now, I don't want to
- 1:37Speaker 2: come here ever again. And he was smiling through this
- 1:39Speaker 2: whole thing. I hated here, you know, So I based
- 1:43Speaker 2: the character Dean Wheeler on that. This this smiley boys
- 1:45Speaker 2: guy Dean eventually evolved from the character that you're going
- 1:49Speaker 2: to hear here is rather professorial. He eventually evolved into
- 1:52Speaker 2: a new age kind of guy, owns the Wheeler Resort,
- 1:54Speaker 2: owns the Man Camp, is all spiritual and all this
- 1:57Speaker 2: good stuff comes from a really you know, he need
- 2:00Speaker 2: background a guy. He comes from New Jersey where he
- 2:02Speaker 2: was in prison for drug dealing and he was arrested
- 2:04Speaker 2: for domestic assault, so he's been everywhere.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Dean Wheeler.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Here he is as he talks to listeners about his
- 2:11Speaker 2: belief that if you use a fork and a knife
- 2:13Speaker 2: in a Chinese restaurant, you're being racist and you gotta
- 2:17Speaker 2: have some sensitivity there, and then he winds up using
- 2:19Speaker 2: the word chinaman.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Later on in a bit this is the Phil Henry Show,
- 2:23Speaker 1: we have Dean Wheeler with us.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Mister Wheeler is an educator and lecturer from the San
- 2:27Speaker 2: Francisco Bay Area, to talk to us about a lecture
- 2:30Speaker 2: series he's been involved in on racism in everyday life
- 2:34Speaker 2: and what we can all do as individuals to combat it.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Combat it as opposed to simply looking to another. What
- 2:40Speaker 2: piece of legislation a mister Wheeler or another proclamation of
- 2:44Speaker 2: a well known community leader and so forth. So we
- 2:47Speaker 2: welcome you onto our program. And what do you think
- 2:50Speaker 2: about that this is a more of a one person
- 2:51Speaker 2: a person problem, isn't it?
- 2:53Speaker 3: It really is so. In our lecture series, we try
- 2:57Speaker 3: to point out that racism is everywhere in our sisciety,
- 3:00Speaker 3: and we've seen what racism can do when you look
- 3:03Speaker 3: at the terrible disaster we've all witnessed on television in
- 3:07Speaker 3: New Orleans. I don't think it takes a lot to
- 3:10Speaker 3: reach out and bridge the racial divide that can separate
- 3:13Speaker 3: us and divide this country. But I don't know if
- 3:16Speaker 3: people want to take the time. And that's really this
- 3:21Speaker 3: is all about as we conduct our seminars in our
- 3:24Speaker 3: community discussion groups.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Now you said it's time to speak up forcefully as individuals.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Tell me what you mean.
- 3:30Speaker 3: By that, Phil, I think we can all make a
- 3:33Speaker 3: difference if you see or hear a racist behavior, knowing
- 3:36Speaker 3: what we know about our society, what we've seen in
- 3:39Speaker 3: New Orleans. I think that you say it directly to
- 3:42Speaker 3: a person and say it with conviction, because people respect
- 3:45Speaker 3: anybody who is definite and clear in their thinking.
- 3:47Speaker 2: All Right, there's a couple of examples in your book,
- 3:49Speaker 2: here's a chapter called night Out. Now you talked about
- 3:51Speaker 2: a date that you were on with a colleague of yours.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Yeah, she was from our ashram in Mill Valley where
- 3:59Speaker 3: we do a lot of We do an awful lot
- 4:01Speaker 3: of prenatal midwife training as well as some of our yoga,
- 4:07Speaker 3: and it was an interesting experience. But I saw it.
- 4:11Speaker 3: It's more shocking when you see racism coming from a
- 4:13Speaker 3: person that you thought you wanted to get to know
- 4:15Speaker 3: and share time with, and then you see what they
- 4:18Speaker 3: really are, and you have to maintain your composure, but
- 4:20Speaker 3: you also have to be very direct and not tolerated.
- 4:23Speaker 3: All Right.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Here you are in a social situation with a young
- 4:26Speaker 2: woman that you're trying to get to know, and you
- 4:29Speaker 2: say that she has done or said something that is
- 4:32Speaker 2: racially insensitive.
- 4:33Speaker 3: You bet, Phil, the thing that you have to tell.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Tell me what took place?
- 4:37Speaker 3: You bet. We were at a place called Munsao's. It's
- 4:40Speaker 3: in the Asian section of.
- 4:42Speaker 1: San Francisco, and that that's in Chinatown.
- 4:46Speaker 3: You bet, Phil, it is Chinatown. I don't really like
- 4:48Speaker 3: to call it that because it's a little bit of
- 4:50Speaker 3: a throwback to a more demeaning time, but We're in
- 4:52Speaker 3: a very nice and also a very traditional Chinese restaurant.
- 4:56Speaker 3: The other thing to know is that I'm very well
- 4:58Speaker 3: known in the Asian community here in San Francisco. The
- 5:03Speaker 3: Chinese business people know me. I do a lot of lecturing,
- 5:06Speaker 3: we do a lot of our yoga and are seminars
- 5:10Speaker 3: here and in fact, I have the rare privilege of
- 5:14Speaker 3: having the Chinese respectfully boo to me many of the merchants.
- 5:19Speaker 3: So I'm very well known and I've got a reputation
- 5:22Speaker 3: among the Chinese here in this part of San Francisco.
- 5:27Speaker 3: And we were in a Chinese restaurant. I was looking
- 5:30Speaker 3: forward to spending time with Kathleen, as you mentioned, she
- 5:32Speaker 3: is a colleague. And we ordered our food, which was
- 5:36Speaker 3: a simple traditional Mandarin dish, and I heard her say
- 5:39Speaker 3: to the server, would you please bring me a place setting?
- 5:43Speaker 3: And that indicated that she wasn't going to eat with chopsticks,
- 5:46Speaker 3: and so you sort of brace yourself.
- 5:49Speaker 2: You're right, So shoot, not eating with chopsticks would indicate what, well,
- 5:55Speaker 2: it indicates an insensitivity.
- 5:57Speaker 3: The Chinese don't mind serving Europeans or Western people. They
- 6:01Speaker 3: don't mind serving the white man, but they do notice
- 6:05Speaker 3: how people behave and react in their homes and businesses,
- 6:08Speaker 3: and you know that they are very quick to anger people.
- 6:13Speaker 3: They are inscrutable in a lot of ways, but they
- 6:16Speaker 3: will you know, they'll get up into your face. And
- 6:21Speaker 3: so you.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Mentioned the book that they brought your food. You and
- 6:25Speaker 2: this young lady, she proceeds to take silverware out.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Of a napkin.
- 6:28Speaker 3: You bet, Phil now watching someone who's exhibiting this trade
- 6:32Speaker 3: is obviously repulsive.
- 6:34Speaker 1: She's not using chopsticks.
- 6:35Speaker 3: She's not using chopsticks, and she's showing a kind of
- 6:38Speaker 3: a lack of respect for a very very ancient culture.
- 6:41Speaker 3: And the other part of this is her racism. It
- 6:43Speaker 3: puts me in a bad situation. I'm very well known,
- 6:46Speaker 3: and the Chinese see me out with this person who
- 6:50Speaker 3: is of such low breeding and of such low opinion
- 6:55Speaker 3: of herself as well as a fellow human beings that
- 6:58Speaker 3: she can't even walk into a Chinese restaurant and use chopsticks.
- 7:03Speaker 1: And so your notoriety plays into this as well.
- 7:06Speaker 3: You bet, I understand the Chinese. And one of the
- 7:09Speaker 3: things about the Chinese is they you don't really want
- 7:12Speaker 3: to get them angry. I was there in this restaurant
- 7:15Speaker 3: owned by people I know, And now here's a Western
- 7:18Speaker 3: woman who's using a fork.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Can I ask you something.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I go to a Chinese restaurants a lot, I see
- 7:24Speaker 2: a lot of people not using chopsticks.
- 7:26Speaker 1: I should say something.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Absolutely, this is the kind of racism that goes undetected,
- 7:34Speaker 3: it goes unaddressed.
- 7:36Speaker 1: And yet a lot of people would say, well, I
- 7:38Speaker 1: didn't know was racist.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Well, Phil John Rocker said he wasn't being racist when
- 7:43Speaker 3: he used the words fag and spoke and koon and
- 7:46Speaker 3: all this in the comments that he made in Sports Illustrated.
- 7:49Speaker 3: But nonetheless he was. And so we all have to
- 7:54Speaker 3: have the courage. People like mister Rocker and this young
- 7:57Speaker 3: woman that I was out with need to face their
- 7:59Speaker 3: racism and and.
- 8:02Speaker 1: And deal with it racism in everyday life.
- 8:04Speaker 2: We're talking with Dean Wheeler, a lecturer and educator from
- 8:07Speaker 2: San Francisco, about how we can combat it. To the
- 8:11Speaker 2: example in your book is the young lady that you
- 8:13Speaker 2: were out with who was not using chopsticks but instead
- 8:17Speaker 2: was using a knife.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Well, she was using a fork. She was eating a
- 8:22Speaker 3: rice dish. That is we call it chicken fried rice,
- 8:26Speaker 3: but it's it's it's got a more culturally acceptable term.
- 8:32Speaker 3: And she's digging into this with this fork as if
- 8:34Speaker 3: she is some Western pig, you know, disrespecting the Chinese
- 8:42Speaker 3: all over the all over the restaurant. And so we
- 8:45Speaker 3: have to have the courage to face up to it
- 8:48Speaker 3: if we don't, and it angered me. It sickened me.
- 8:52Speaker 3: The Chinese know me, and they'll remember me.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Did you in the book you mentioned you slapped the
- 8:58Speaker 1: fork out of her hand?
- 9:00Speaker 3: Well, I asked her if she would please use the chopstick.
- 9:03Speaker 3: She told me she didn't know how. And after about
- 9:05Speaker 3: a minute of this, your indignation begins to your indignation
- 9:10Speaker 3: begins to rise a little bit. And I remember just saying, oh,
- 9:14Speaker 3: this has got to stop. And I reached across the
- 9:16Speaker 3: table and I did something I probably should not have done,
- 9:21Speaker 3: but I did. I slap the fork out of her hand.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Now, needless to say or not, because I have no idea.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Do you still have a relationship with this person?
- 9:30Speaker 3: Well? I do, Phil, And it's interesting because she came
- 9:33Speaker 3: to me the next day and we shook hands. The
- 9:35Speaker 3: whole thing was a big misunderstanding, and I got to
- 9:39Speaker 3: know her a little bit better. She is interested in
- 9:45Speaker 3: seeing me, you know, socially. And I've got to ask myself,
- 9:50Speaker 3: do I want to sacrifice the standing that I have
- 9:52Speaker 3: among the Asian people in San Francisco because I have
- 9:57Speaker 3: certain needs as a man? Or why am I going
- 10:01Speaker 3: to throw that respect away?
- 10:02Speaker 1: And well, all right, look it.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Did she understand that not using chopsticks was a racist
- 10:08Speaker 2: insult and has since altered that behavior.
- 10:11Speaker 3: Well, she doesn't want to go out to any Chinese restaurants,
- 10:15Speaker 3: and I have told her, all right, that's a good compromise.
- 10:19Speaker 3: But why can't you understand that using chopsticks? In other words,
- 10:26Speaker 3: people that go into a Chinese restaurant and ask for
- 10:31Speaker 3: a fork want I asked myself, are they even aware
- 10:36Speaker 3: of what they're doing? Are they even aware of the
- 10:39Speaker 3: cruelty sitting there with a fork in your hand and eating,
- 10:44Speaker 3: you know, a snow dumpling or a or a sachewan
- 10:48Speaker 3: broccoli or something. And these are the things that you
- 10:51Speaker 3: have to ask yourself in everyday life. And my outrage
- 10:54Speaker 3: got to me to the point where I just reached
- 10:56Speaker 3: across the table and I made the joke to them.
- 11:00Speaker 3: I said, when I slapped that fork out of her
- 11:01Speaker 3: hand and it hit the floor, it sounded I thought
- 11:03Speaker 3: the major d was taking an order on the phone,
- 11:06Speaker 3: you know, because it had that sort of a ring
- 11:09Speaker 3: to it. I don't know, but I desperately, desperately want
- 11:14Speaker 3: Kathleen to understand how hurtful her behavior was and how
- 11:19Speaker 3: ultimately disgusting it is.
- 11:21Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break here.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Dean Wheeler noted San Francisco author lecture on everyday racism
- 11:28Speaker 2: and how we can do our part to combat it,
- 11:32Speaker 2: something as simple as not picking up chopsticks in a
- 11:34Speaker 2: Chinese restaurant. It may sound not, you know, like it's much,
- 11:39Speaker 2: but it is a according to mister Wheeler, who knows
- 11:41Speaker 2: apparently he is well known in the Asian community, it
- 11:43Speaker 2: is a profound racist slap to the face when you
- 11:47Speaker 2: use a fork.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show, Living on the edge, always teetering, never
- 11:53Speaker 2: quite falling off. Talking to Dean Wheeler a lecture an
- 11:56Speaker 2: educator on the book that he's written on racism in
- 11:58Speaker 2: everyday life and how we can combat it. You mentioned
- 12:01Speaker 2: that in the Asian community in San Francisco, in Chinatown
- 12:04Speaker 2: and other parts of San Francisco, you have a relationship
- 12:08Speaker 2: where they extend to you the traditional Chinese greeting of
- 12:11Speaker 2: a bow.
- 12:12Speaker 3: That is correct, though primarily I think because of the
- 12:16Speaker 3: many times that I've been in the community, I patronize
- 12:20Speaker 3: many of their restaurants, do a lot of my dry
- 12:23Speaker 3: cleaning there, and just I guess, just make myself, you know,
- 12:31Speaker 3: a friend of the community, and you know, there's nothing
- 12:34Speaker 3: wrong with eating Chinese food with a fork and a
- 12:36Speaker 3: knife in your own home. If you want to do takeout,
- 12:40Speaker 3: that's great. If you want to have them home, deliver it.
- 12:44Speaker 3: But when you go into a Chinese restaurant and you
- 12:47Speaker 3: don't have the common courtesy to use chopsticks, you are
- 12:54Speaker 3: insulting the Chinese, the Chinese waiter and mad here.
- 13:01Speaker 4: Is go ahead, Okay, Well, I find it very very
- 13:04Speaker 4: odd that you would think that's insulting to a Chinese person.
- 13:09Speaker 3: I have experience. I have experienced, I know many of
- 13:12Speaker 3: the Chinese. I go to many of their restaurants.
- 13:15Speaker 4: And who's who's actually told you that that that's insulted them.
- 13:19Speaker 3: Well, you have to understand that I studied and I
- 13:22Speaker 3: visited Beijing, China when they first opened the borders to westerners.
- 13:29Speaker 3: I ate in many of the best restaurants in China,
- 13:33Speaker 3: proper and you would never insult a host by sitting
- 13:37Speaker 3: down with a fork and and a gentleman by the
- 13:42Speaker 3: name of Wang Kao, who is one of the primary
- 13:45Speaker 3: restaurant tours in Shanghai, privately discussed talk to me about
- 13:50Speaker 3: his disgust.
- 13:52Speaker 1: He didn't like it.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Huh no, he did not.
- 13:55Speaker 4: Okay, Well, do you about somebody who doesn't know how
- 13:58Speaker 4: to use chopsticks? Would you, well, with all due respects,
- 14:04Speaker 4: such a hard time eating their meal?
- 14:06Speaker 3: With all due respect, I think you would have to
- 14:08Speaker 3: be almost born with part of your brain missing not
- 14:13Speaker 3: to be able to know how to use chopsticks. Well.
- 14:16Speaker 2: But but the young man is making a point. I
- 14:18Speaker 2: mean some people don't know how to use them.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Well, I would suggest if you're going to go into
- 14:22Speaker 3: a Chinese rest you can buy as I said, you
- 14:24Speaker 3: can get your takeout. You can go down to missus
- 14:25Speaker 3: Chow's or wherever you go and bring it home and
- 14:28Speaker 3: eat it at your kitchen table with a big spoon
- 14:31Speaker 3: like your Cramer and Seinfeld. But if you're going to
- 14:33Speaker 3: go into a restaurant where you've got a Chinese where
- 14:36Speaker 3: the Chinese are always watching, and I don't know if
- 14:39Speaker 3: you've noticed this, but every time you look up from
- 14:43Speaker 3: your meal, one of them staring at you. Why do
- 14:46Speaker 3: you suppose that is? What are you doing? Are you
- 14:50Speaker 3: eating right now?
- 14:51Speaker 4: Am I eating right now?
- 14:52Speaker 3: Yes, sir, No, I'm not well. I'm just saying, have
- 14:56Speaker 3: you ever been to a Chinese restaurant? You know what
- 14:58Speaker 3: I'm saying?
- 14:58Speaker 1: What do you mean when you look up?
- 15:00Speaker 3: When you look If you're in a Chinese restaurant and
- 15:01Speaker 3: you look up quickly, you'll see the chef.
- 15:06Speaker 4: Sharing Sara, why didn't you say you're making a racist
- 15:10Speaker 4: remark right now by saying that Chinese people are so
- 15:12Speaker 4: nosy that they would get into your business when you're
- 15:14Speaker 4: trying to have dinner.
- 15:15Speaker 3: No, they're not getting into your business, but they want
- 15:17Speaker 3: to see whether you have respect for what is called
- 15:20Speaker 3: the dumb soul, which is their their domicile, and so
- 15:25Speaker 3: they keep an eye on you. And it's not really
- 15:28Speaker 3: intrusive in the Chinese culture. It's more like, is this
- 15:32Speaker 3: person you know, respecting me? Or are they coming into
- 15:35Speaker 3: my house and, as we like to say in the West,
- 15:37Speaker 3: squatting and take it up?
- 15:38Speaker 2: No?
- 15:39Speaker 3: You know what on me?
- 15:41Speaker 1: Well?
- 15:41Speaker 2: I mean I've never looked up from my meal and
- 15:43Speaker 2: seen any I find the Asian people from China. If
- 15:47Speaker 2: you're talking about people arrived immigrants from China, I find
- 15:50Speaker 2: the extremely respectful people.
- 15:52Speaker 3: Well, Phil, that's one of the great myths. It's not
- 15:56Speaker 3: a myth. But behind that big smile at big two
- 16:00Speaker 3: the smile is a very intelligent person.
- 16:05Speaker 4: You know what, I think everybody has the right to
- 16:08Speaker 4: use whatever eating utensil that they should do.
- 16:11Speaker 3: But if you're in someone's home, wouldn't you agree that
- 16:13Speaker 3: you would do things? Look at I don't want to
- 16:15Speaker 3: see you or anyone. Do you know what a Chinese
- 16:21Speaker 3: star is? A flying Chinese star?
- 16:24Speaker 4: Are you talking about a Japanese ninja star?
- 16:26Speaker 3: No, I'm talking Well, the Chinese use it as well
- 16:29Speaker 3: as in kung fu and some other martial arts from
- 16:31Speaker 3: the subcontinent of Asia, And.
- 16:33Speaker 4: No they're not. That is a Japanese weapons sir.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Well, the Chinese have adapted it because I know they
- 16:39Speaker 3: use it in the Red Army. So I'm just simply
- 16:41Speaker 3: trying to tell you what I know. And you can
- 16:44Speaker 3: get one of these embedded in your skull because you
- 16:47Speaker 3: decided to reach for a fork.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Where you name it? Oh, come on, man, I'm well,
- 16:55Speaker 1: you are absolutely ridiculous.
- 16:57Speaker 4: You don't even have your infract straight.
- 16:58Speaker 3: What are you talking about it?
- 16:59Speaker 4: Don't say weapon.
- 17:00Speaker 3: Yes, it's a Japanese way.
- 17:02Speaker 5: You know that.
- 17:02Speaker 3: You know where Buddhism comes from India? Yes, it comes
- 17:05Speaker 3: from India, and yeah it is one. It's the primary
- 17:08Speaker 3: religion of Japan. Do you understand that things are adapted
- 17:10Speaker 3: throughout that part of.
- 17:11Speaker 4: The World's that's besides the point.
- 17:13Speaker 3: No, it's not. You told me, and I'm telling you.
- 17:15Speaker 3: The Red Army uses it now they will. You'll get
- 17:17Speaker 3: one embedded right between your eyes.
- 17:20Speaker 1: Not for using not using chopsticks.
- 17:23Speaker 3: It leads to that kind of thing. You don't use
- 17:25Speaker 3: chopsticks one day, the next day you suddenly have yourself,
- 17:28Speaker 3: Oh look I've got a half Asian baby.
- 17:33Speaker 4: Well, I think are you looking it to an extreme
- 17:36Speaker 4: ridiculous point, because.
- 17:38Speaker 3: I'm trying to If you're into martial arts, you understand
- 17:41Speaker 3: respect among cultures. You obviously have an appreciation for that. Correct.
- 17:46Speaker 4: Listen, I've been I've been studying martial arts ever since
- 17:49Speaker 4: I was born. I am Chinese American. My parents are
- 17:52Speaker 4: both from China, and my parents know what I'm saying. No, No,
- 17:56Speaker 4: I'm totally opposed to what you're saying, because I've seen
- 18:00Speaker 4: my own parents use fork in a Chinese restaurant and
- 18:03Speaker 4: they know everything complete. Where are Chinese culture?
- 18:07Speaker 3: You and you ordered?
- 18:08Speaker 4: Don you watchatality? It's being practical, Well, when it's suitable,
- 18:16Speaker 4: use chopsticks when it's suitable that you want to believe
- 18:18Speaker 4: that chopsticks are the superior utensel a choice?
- 18:22Speaker 3: All right, So let's let me ask you this. You
- 18:24Speaker 3: see how this young man, mister Henry just said that
- 18:26Speaker 3: he's Asian. So he crept up on me. That's what
- 18:28Speaker 3: they'll do. And who many of the Asians?
- 18:31Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait, wait wait wait wait, Well
- 18:33Speaker 1: he could have told.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Me it was Chinese, and that makes me look like
- 18:35Speaker 3: a big sucker. Right now, I've got a big wrapper
- 18:40Speaker 3: on my head.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Ernest, I would say, no, I want to answer to
- 18:48Speaker 2: my question. What's the what's the question?
- 18:53Speaker 3: When was he going to spit out that he's Chinese?
- 18:55Speaker 1: He's Jesus an American? Your parents are from your parents
- 18:59Speaker 1: are from China, right, Earnest?
- 19:01Speaker 5: Does that is that?
- 19:02Speaker 3: Does that tell me?
- 19:03Speaker 4: Do I have to say that in the beginning of
- 19:04Speaker 4: the conversation, Hi, I'm and I'm China.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Well, it's very inscrutable of you. You see, you're very
- 19:10Speaker 3: you're being unscrutable.
- 19:11Speaker 4: I just happened to I just happened to have some
- 19:13Speaker 4: information as this so called specialist thinks he does too.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Sir, I'm just trying to tell you. You go ahead
- 19:20Speaker 3: and you pick up a fork and a knife in
- 19:22Speaker 3: the Beijing Duck restaurant and you watch what's come sailing
- 19:25Speaker 3: at your head.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Oh come on, I was in the Peaking Duck restaurant
- 19:28Speaker 2: in Beijing myself. I think I used the fork, and
- 19:31Speaker 2: in fact, I'm sure I used the forking knife, and.
- 19:33Speaker 1: I didn't see anybody throwing a freaking flying star at
- 19:35Speaker 1: my head.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Well, you know, I have great associations among Asians and
- 19:42Speaker 3: Asian Americans, and I am trying to keep those as
- 19:45Speaker 3: positive as I can. And I hate to see what's
- 19:47Speaker 3: going on.
- 19:47Speaker 2: All right, Look at Ernest, thank you for your call.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Let's go over to Jason. Jason, you're on the Phil
- 19:51Speaker 2: Henry Show.
- 19:53Speaker 5: Uh hi, Yeah, this this has got to be a job, right.
- 19:56Speaker 5: This guy isn't serious about what he's saying.
- 19:59Speaker 3: Well, Jason, this is Dean Wheeler. Let me ask you
- 20:01Speaker 3: a question. I have spent a better part of my
- 20:04Speaker 3: professional life among Asian Americans and Asians. I've traveled extensively.
- 20:08Speaker 5: Everything you're saying about Asians is patently racist, from the
- 20:12Speaker 5: big twosy smile to your dry cleaning to you know,
- 20:15Speaker 5: I mean to saying that Asians are quick to anger
- 20:19Speaker 5: if you get in their face. I mean, everything you've
- 20:21Speaker 5: said has been a stereotypical racist thing to say about it.
- 20:24Speaker 3: I would disagree with that.
- 20:26Speaker 1: Well, you said you made the comment the big toothy smile.
- 20:34Speaker 3: You know something, I have very dear friends that are
- 20:36Speaker 3: Chinese and Chinese Americans, and they love to make jokes
- 20:40Speaker 3: about western you know, about Westerners and the clothes that
- 20:43Speaker 3: we wear, or our haircuts. It is something that is common.
- 20:47Speaker 3: It's not racist. But when you walk into someone's home
- 20:50Speaker 3: and you put your feet up on their coffee table,
- 20:52Speaker 3: would you consider that rude? Of course you would. You
- 20:55Speaker 3: walk into a Chinese restaurant and you use a fork
- 20:57Speaker 3: and a knife, and they're not only going to think
- 20:59Speaker 3: it's rude. Would you consider they may you may get
- 21:02Speaker 3: followed to your car.
- 21:04Speaker 5: Would you consider it rude to slap the silverware out
- 21:06Speaker 5: of someone's hand?
- 21:07Speaker 1: Good point?
- 21:08Speaker 3: Not in that instance, No, certain, not when you're seeing
- 21:10Speaker 3: any and you're seeing when you're seeing a wrong being done.
- 21:16Speaker 2: All right, hold on, Jason, Dean Wheeler on the racism
- 21:19Speaker 2: of not using chopsticks.
- 21:21Speaker 1: It's the Phil Henry Show, Phil Henry Show.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Be lovely with me, Come on, be lovely.
- 21:26Speaker 1: The Phil Henry Show is back.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Jason, who is hanging on the line here with Dean Wheeler.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Jason here on the Phil Henry Show.
- 21:34Speaker 1: I'm here.
- 21:34Speaker 5: I just don't think this guy is for real. I
- 21:36Speaker 5: think he's got to be kidding.
- 21:39Speaker 3: As I mentioned to mister Henry and to his listeners, Jason,
- 21:42Speaker 3: I spent a better part of thirty years traveling in Asia,
- 21:45Speaker 3: and I've I've gotten to know a great many members
- 21:47Speaker 3: of the Asian community here in San Francisco, which, as
- 21:50Speaker 3: you know, is one of the largest uh encampments of
- 21:54Speaker 3: Chinese in the West. You you accused me of racism,
- 21:59Speaker 3: but I'm trying to point out that when you walk
- 22:01Speaker 3: into a Chinese restaurant and you pull out a fork
- 22:04Speaker 3: and a knife instead of using chopsticks, they're looking, They're watching,
- 22:10Speaker 3: They're watching your every move. Correctness. I'm sorry, I'm.
- 22:16Speaker 5: Not into political correctness or anything, but everything you.
- 22:19Speaker 3: Would you call it political correctness for me to show
- 22:22Speaker 3: respect in your home by not putting my feet up
- 22:24Speaker 3: and my filthy feet up on your breakfast table.
- 22:27Speaker 5: No, but everything you've had to say about Asian people
- 22:30Speaker 5: could be taken as being racist.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Such a good.
- 22:33Speaker 5: Invading somebody else's personal space you might have glapping the
- 22:35Speaker 5: silverware out of their hand is way ruder than anything
- 22:39Speaker 5: else you've accused anyone else.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Up, wait a minute, tell me what I've said that
- 22:42Speaker 3: it's been racist.
- 22:44Speaker 5: The big toothy smile that you You know, Asians are
- 22:47Speaker 5: quick to anger. You don't want to get up in
- 22:48Speaker 5: their face. You know that you get your dry cleaning
- 22:52Speaker 5: done and that you eat in Asian restaurants. That's your
- 22:54Speaker 5: interaction with Asian people getting your dry cleaning done.
- 22:58Speaker 3: No, that's not all of it. No, look at you
- 23:01Speaker 3: show me in the Asian community in San Francisco. Yes,
- 23:05Speaker 3: it just so happens. They run a pretty good laundry.
- 23:09Speaker 5: You know, the only thing you've talked about is chopsticks.
- 23:11Speaker 5: It seems like you have some kind of fetish for
- 23:13Speaker 5: food or chopsticks or something.
- 23:15Speaker 3: I know, if I can't get people to understand this
- 23:18Speaker 3: very basic value that using chopsticks can get you killed, Yeah,
- 23:25Speaker 3: in the wrong restaurant. If you don't use chopsticks, then
- 23:28Speaker 3: that the way. No, I'm telling you there are restaurants
- 23:32Speaker 3: here in San Francisco. You pick up a fork and
- 23:35Speaker 3: a knife.
- 23:35Speaker 5: I haven't read about it, and you ot to getting
- 23:37Speaker 5: killed in San Francisco for using chopsticks.
- 23:41Speaker 3: People know better. But that young man, Well, you know what.
- 23:45Speaker 3: You can laugh if you want to. But you want
- 23:46Speaker 3: to pick up a fork. You and you think it's
- 23:49Speaker 3: a great Friday night out getting a flying star right
- 23:52Speaker 3: into one of your eyes. Great?
- 23:53Speaker 5: Oh, come on, you are either the funniest scary person
- 23:57Speaker 5: I've heard on radio in a long time.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Sir, I am trying trying to tell you. We live
- 24:01Speaker 3: in a society where Martin Luther King himself said we
- 24:03Speaker 3: want to judge people on the content of their character.
- 24:06Speaker 3: Why can't we respect each other enough? You eat an
- 24:09Speaker 3: egg roll with a fork, and you watch what happens
- 24:12Speaker 3: to the back of your skull.
- 24:14Speaker 5: I eat Chinese food all the time with a fork
- 24:19Speaker 5: in a.
- 24:19Speaker 3: Restaurant, in a Chinese restaurant. Yeah, cityst What city do
- 24:22Speaker 3: you live in? Memphis? Tennis is Well, the Asian community
- 24:25Speaker 3: in Memphis, like many Asian communities in that part of
- 24:27Speaker 3: the world have probably has probably been so beaten into submission.
- 24:31Speaker 1: Well what does that mean?
- 24:33Speaker 3: Well, I think you know what it means.
- 24:34Speaker 1: No, I don't know what it means. What does that mean?
- 24:36Speaker 2: San Francisco's on the on the west coast, so it's
- 24:39Speaker 2: closer to the disembarking point of Chinese people.
- 24:45Speaker 3: But well, but the other thing is the Chinese are
- 24:47Speaker 3: probably scared to death to say anything in a place
- 24:49Speaker 3: like Memphis.
- 24:50Speaker 5: Why, what's what's what's going on in Memphis? Let's hear
- 24:53Speaker 5: you say something.
- 24:56Speaker 3: Against now, I don't never forget it.
- 24:59Speaker 1: Now, go ahead, man, say it.
- 25:01Speaker 3: Say I don't want to say say it. Well, let
- 25:04Speaker 3: me just put it this way. I wouldn't want to
- 25:06Speaker 3: be standing on a balcony in a motel down there.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Oh man, oh man.
- 25:10Speaker 3: Well you know it.
- 25:12Speaker 1: No, come on, man, you're not for real. Thirty plus
- 25:16Speaker 1: years ago, you're not for real.
- 25:18Speaker 5: You're not comparing yourself with Martin Luther.
- 25:20Speaker 3: I'm not comparing myself with Martin Luther King. I was
- 25:23Speaker 3: saying you on.
- 25:25Speaker 5: Memphis, Tennessee, what set sir? What would you do to
- 25:28Speaker 5: get shot in Memphis, Tennessee?
- 25:30Speaker 3: I wouldn't want you and civil rights I sure seck,
- 25:34Speaker 3: don't think I deserve to get shut because I'm out
- 25:35Speaker 3: taking the morning air Jesus.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Oh come on, man, you know we're we're talking about
- 25:40Speaker 2: a modern America moving into a new millennium, trying to
- 25:43Speaker 2: bring all these things together, and you're talking about a
- 25:45Speaker 2: cat nut using chopsticks in a Chinese restaurant getting a
- 25:48Speaker 2: flying star.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Through the back of his skull.
- 25:51Speaker 3: Well, you see now you're encouraging him to last. So
- 25:53Speaker 3: the ignorance continues.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Oh boy, Yeah, that's it man, Jason, Thank you sir. Yes, uh,
- 26:00Speaker 2: you've intimated.
- 26:00Speaker 3: I'm not a stranger. I'm not saying that it will happen.
- 26:02Speaker 3: I'm saying that. Let me just tell you this, you've
- 26:06Speaker 3: been warned.
- 26:07Speaker 1: What does that mean.
- 26:09Speaker 3: Well, I've spent the better part of forty minutes try
- 26:11Speaker 3: to tell you, and now the only thing left to
- 26:13Speaker 3: me is to say you have been warned.
- 26:16Speaker 1: I've been warned about what I have.
- 26:18Speaker 3: Told you that if you pick up a fork and
- 26:20Speaker 3: a knife in the wrong Chinese restaurant, if you've seen
- 26:24Speaker 3: the autopsy photos of Trinnedy.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm listening.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Oh really, you want to hear the details.
- 26:31Speaker 1: What do you tell me, Lee, Harvey Oswald's going to
- 26:33Speaker 1: shoot me?
- 26:35Speaker 3: Lee, Harvey Oslod'm going to shoot me?
- 26:37Speaker 1: No, here is Dave, Dave. Go ahead. You're on the
- 26:40Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show.
- 26:41Speaker 6: Yeah, how you doing today? It's to day from Ohio. Yes, sir,
- 26:44Speaker 6: I spent I spent six years overseas in a military
- 26:48Speaker 6: three years in the Philippines station there, and I was
- 26:51Speaker 6: stationed on the midway out of Yakuska, Japan. And I've
- 26:55Speaker 6: been to Hong Kong. And I know that's not all Chinese,
- 26:58Speaker 6: that's a variety of different diferent things. But I know
- 27:01Speaker 6: all the places that I went to overseas, I tried
- 27:04Speaker 6: to use chopsticks and I was not coordinated for some
- 27:08Speaker 6: ungodly reason why I do not know, but I was
- 27:11Speaker 6: not able to use chopsticks properly. And I asked a
- 27:14Speaker 6: lot of the restaurants that I did attend and ask
- 27:20Speaker 6: them for silverware Westerns silverware, knife, forks, and spoons, and
- 27:24Speaker 6: they was overwhelmingly would try and help me use chopsticks
- 27:29Speaker 6: or would give me silverware. And I would go into
- 27:31Speaker 6: these restaurants and I would point at the food and
- 27:34Speaker 6: say I would like this because I didn't speak the language. Yes,
- 27:37Speaker 6: but they tried to learn.
- 27:38Speaker 3: Do you know what you're in the military? Enough said,
- 27:42Speaker 3: and mean, they're with a man who's in the military.
- 27:47Speaker 3: What are they going to say?
- 27:48Speaker 6: I wasn't in uniform. They had no idea I was
- 27:51Speaker 6: when I was in Hong Kong. When I was in
- 27:54Speaker 6: Hong Kong, there is so many different nationalities.
- 27:58Speaker 3: But American service people are recognizable not by their uniform
- 28:02Speaker 3: but by that buzz cut. See that buzz cut, you know,
- 28:05Speaker 3: the flat top haircut. And they look at you and
- 28:08Speaker 3: they go, I don't want to argue with this guy,
- 28:10Speaker 3: because but there's something here.
- 28:12Speaker 6: One that I did notice that I know. We was
- 28:15Speaker 6: taught to respect all their ways over there. Of course,
- 28:19Speaker 6: I mean walking out of a person's house and walking
- 28:21Speaker 6: into a person's soone. I had a lot of Japanese
- 28:24Speaker 6: friends when I was in the military, and I would
- 28:26Speaker 6: have to take my shoes off going into their house,
- 28:30Speaker 6: and when I walked out of their house, I would
- 28:32Speaker 6: walk out backwards facing them walking out.
- 28:35Speaker 3: Well, I never took my shoes off. Of that. There's
- 28:38Speaker 3: only a few things I'm willing to do.
- 28:40Speaker 6: Well in the restaurant, you had to in the Expanse restaurant.
- 28:44Speaker 6: You had to take your shoes off because the vis
- 28:46Speaker 6: you wasn't allowed to go in.
- 28:47Speaker 3: These Chinamen can pick a jar head out at one
- 28:50Speaker 3: hundred yards, and.
- 28:52Speaker 6: We and we can in week in stereo and wee
- 28:54Speaker 6: can stereotype a person by looking at them the very
- 28:57Speaker 6: first one.
- 28:58Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to tell I see.
- 29:00Speaker 6: As soon as I see a person not notied, I
- 29:05Speaker 6: married a Pacific Islander, Dave, I gotta.
- 29:07Speaker 1: I gotta jump in.
- 29:08Speaker 2: What do you mean a Chinaman can pick a jar
- 29:10Speaker 2: head out of one hundred yards?
- 29:12Speaker 3: He knows what I'm talking about.
- 29:14Speaker 6: Anybody, anybody could pick a military person out. But that's
- 29:18Speaker 6: not true today because you have a lot of people
- 29:20Speaker 6: that have short haircut.
- 29:21Speaker 3: You said you married a you married.
- 29:23Speaker 6: A white Philippine national.
- 29:24Speaker 3: Yes, well see that ain't a Chinaman.
- 29:27Speaker 6: No, but you're but you're saying Asians. She's a put
- 29:30Speaker 6: the islander, Well.
- 29:31Speaker 3: She's a Filipino. And so the thing, see they got
- 29:34Speaker 3: in the other thing. You gotta understand, and I'm sure
- 29:37Speaker 3: you've noticed this. Because of the eye shape, right, they
- 29:41Speaker 3: can see their peripheral visions better. Oh yeah, yes, sir,
- 29:45Speaker 3: and so to the side.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Okay, that's just like all right, see that's no this
- 29:52Speaker 2: guy very the statement you're making because you're saying the
- 29:56Speaker 2: same thing.
- 29:56Speaker 6: I think it was Jimmy the Greek said black people
- 29:58Speaker 6: are faster.
- 29:59Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no. Jimmy the Greek
- 30:01Speaker 3: was a fat He was a fat Greek. What did
- 30:03Speaker 3: he know?
- 30:03Speaker 6: What's that got to do with any Well, I'm just saying.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Because you're married to the Filipino, she can see one
- 30:08Speaker 3: hundred and eighty degrees off to the side because of
- 30:10Speaker 3: the whole the way the eyes are slid open.
- 30:12Speaker 6: Not true the human only The only difference is is
- 30:17Speaker 6: you don't care what it is if she is my wife.
- 30:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:20Speaker 6: The only difference between my wife and me, that is
- 30:23Speaker 6: very distinct difference is I go out in the sun,
- 30:26Speaker 6: I get sunburned. She doesn't because sher skin is brown.
- 30:30Speaker 6: That's the only difference. She can tolerate the heat a
- 30:33Speaker 6: lot better because she doesn't have hair on her arms
- 30:35Speaker 6: like we do. Because her body over the years. But
- 30:38Speaker 6: your nationality is adapted.
- 30:40Speaker 3: You gotta watch it when you're fooling around, you know,
- 30:42Speaker 3: like if you're talking to a girl, because she can
- 30:44Speaker 3: be looking straight ahead like she's reading the racing form. Man,
- 30:47Speaker 3: she knows what you're doing.
- 30:51Speaker 2: Yeah, all women, all women know that, Dave, I got
- 30:54Speaker 2: to what I have here is a man who's been
- 30:55Speaker 2: talking about racism and how we should use chopsticks. Meanwhile,
- 31:00Speaker 2: your wife has good peripheral vision because of her slanted eyes.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Chinaman can spot a jar head at one hundred yards off.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Are you calling me racist?
- 31:07Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 31:07Speaker 1: I think I am, And you're using the term chinaman.
- 31:10Speaker 3: Look you better let by the way, Dave, you better
- 31:12Speaker 3: let your wife drive your car because it's a better
- 31:14Speaker 3: chance of not getting sideswiped.
- 31:16Speaker 6: Exact.
- 31:16Speaker 3: You know, if you've got the Filipino let's see what
- 31:18Speaker 3: I'm talking.
- 31:18Speaker 6: About exactly a man.
- 31:23Speaker 5: Only.
- 31:23Speaker 6: The only thing I do have to say, The only
- 31:26Speaker 6: thing I do have to say is is as I've
- 31:28Speaker 6: been around him since nineteen eighty three. Yeah, okay, around
- 31:31Speaker 6: around the age you And I'll tell you the Chinese,
- 31:35Speaker 6: the Japanese and all the Asian Pacific islanders and everything.
- 31:39Speaker 6: They are so much more nicer than the American people
- 31:42Speaker 6: are American people. I'm an American America, all right.
- 31:49Speaker 1: I've ever been around David? Thank you, man? Do you
- 31:52Speaker 1: hear what that that gentleman said.
- 31:53Speaker 3: No, I was checking my watching a lecture.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Yeah, you go out and lecture there, man.
- 31:58Speaker 3: You've been warning, mister Henry.
- 31:59Speaker 2: You know I'm going into a Chinese restaurant tomorrow night
- 32:01Speaker 2: in Chinatown, Los Angeles, and I'm gonna eat with a
- 32:04Speaker 2: big fork and a big knife.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Then say goodbye to the back of your head. Yeah
- 32:08Speaker 3: that's it.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
- 32:09Speaker 3: Say goodbye to the back of your head. Buy back
- 32:11Speaker 3: of my head. You know what, mister Henry, I hope
- 32:14Speaker 3: just as that last gentleman said, I hope someday I've
- 32:17Speaker 3: driven to murder just so I can go to hell
- 32:19Speaker 3: and watch them spin you over a pit.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Eh, Phil Henry Show, Phil Henry Show, Well was your
- 32:28Speaker 2: last pork choppionhilation.
- 32:29Speaker 3: These are the questions I asked myself the Phil Henry
- 32:32Speaker 3: Show is back.
- 32:33Speaker 2: I'm asking you how you can justify that to buy
- 32:35Speaker 2: it Phil by simply saying that I am familiar.
- 32:38Speaker 3: I know many of the Chinese personally.
- 32:40Speaker 1: And no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sir.
- 32:42Speaker 2: When you say a Chinaman can spot a jar head,
- 32:45Speaker 2: and you know the almond eyes a.
- 32:48Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty degree peripheral vision.
- 32:50Speaker 2: All of these things stereotypical of a kind of brain
- 32:54Speaker 2: dead racism of the middle of the last century.
- 32:56Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how to even begin to respond.
- 33:00Speaker 3: I'm an educator. Sir.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Did you make the comment that that man's Filipino wife,
- 33:03Speaker 2: you better watch his step because with those almond shape eyes,
- 33:05Speaker 2: she's got one hundred and eighty degree peripheral vision.
- 33:08Speaker 3: I do not recall that.
- 33:09Speaker 1: No, you didn't say that.
- 33:11Speaker 2: I do not recall I heard you say to that
- 33:13Speaker 2: gentleman the marine that he's his wife is Filipino. Wife
- 33:18Speaker 2: had good peripheral vision because her eyes were shaped funny
- 33:21Speaker 2: and you could look out to the side, you said,
- 33:24Speaker 2: while she's reading a racing form.
- 33:28Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't sound it doesn't sound like something I
- 33:30Speaker 3: would say. And I'm telling you I have worked among
- 33:33Speaker 3: the Chinese, and all I'm saying is, when you go
- 33:36Speaker 3: into a Chinese restaurant, use chopsticks, like you care about
- 33:40Speaker 3: something other than yourself to have the selfishness of using
- 33:44Speaker 3: a fork. Yeah, thank you very much for the Chinese food.
- 33:48Speaker 3: I think I'll chow into it with a fork. You
- 33:51Speaker 3: want to have your face leapt, and that's why I
- 33:54Speaker 3: slapped it out of that woman's hands. Hey, you know
- 33:56Speaker 3: what she wants to go? You know, Hey, she wants
- 33:59Speaker 3: to be with me. She's gonna have to uh, you know,
- 34:02Speaker 3: woman up, woman up?
- 34:04Speaker 1: Huh we had a break again. I can't, I can't.
- 34:07Speaker 1: I can't take a call.
- 34:08Speaker 2: All right, let me take a Jennifer here, Jennifer, you're
- 34:10Speaker 2: on the Phil Henry Show.
- 34:10Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 34:12Speaker 7: All I want to know is, if if it's so
- 34:14Speaker 7: offensive to use a fork in a knife, then why
- 34:16Speaker 7: do they provide them in the restaurants at all?
- 34:19Speaker 3: They do?
- 34:20Speaker 5: Uh?
- 34:21Speaker 3: Because you know, let's put it this way. In your home,
- 34:26Speaker 3: all right, you have a mop? Correct, you have them up, ma'am?
- 34:32Speaker 7: Okay, all right.
- 34:33Speaker 3: You don't want someone to squat in the middle of
- 34:36Speaker 3: your kitchen and urinate, but you've got a mop to
- 34:39Speaker 3: clean it up.
- 34:41Speaker 7: No, that's not why I don't have a mop to
- 34:44Speaker 7: clean up urine out of the floor.
- 34:45Speaker 3: Well, what are you gonna use?
- 34:47Speaker 7: But that's not the that's not the purpose of the mob.
- 34:52Speaker 3: That's not the reason why you have cleaning utensils to
- 34:57Speaker 3: clean things up. You don't want someone to do that, right, But.
- 35:00Speaker 7: If I know something, If I know that, if something
- 35:02Speaker 7: is gonna be offensive. If I know that something's gonna
- 35:05Speaker 7: be offensive, I'm not gonna have it in my home.
- 35:07Speaker 7: And so if a fork and a knife is offensive
- 35:09Speaker 7: and a Chinese restaurant, I'm not gonna have it, ma'am.
- 35:12Speaker 3: It's offensive to me for someone to.
- 35:15Speaker 7: Okay, now there's the issue. It's offensive to you.
- 35:18Speaker 3: No, no, I was gonna say it's it would be
- 35:20Speaker 3: offensive to me. Like in the movie The Exorcist, so
- 35:23Speaker 3: that little girl comes down the stairs and she peys
- 35:25Speaker 3: on the rug. That's offensive. But you still have to
- 35:28Speaker 3: have some four or nine.
- 35:31Speaker 1: Well, wait a minute, man, what are you saying.
- 35:32Speaker 2: Are you saying, in other words, that the Chinese, even
- 35:35Speaker 2: though they can't stand the thought of having forks and knives,
- 35:38Speaker 2: are gonna have them there. That's not the same thing.
- 35:40Speaker 2: That's what the lady's saying. If they don't like them,
- 35:42Speaker 2: they don't have them.
- 35:44Speaker 7: Well, it would be offensive if you walked into the
- 35:46Speaker 7: restaurant and pulled out your own fork and knife. But
- 35:51Speaker 7: if they have it sitting on the table when you
- 35:53Speaker 7: walk up to the table next to your walk, it is.
- 35:55Speaker 3: Their way of daring you. It's their way of say,
- 35:59Speaker 3: go ahead, I dare you.
- 36:00Speaker 5: Okay.
- 36:00Speaker 7: Well, one other thing you said, you said you don't
- 36:02Speaker 7: take your shoes off when you walk into some you know,
- 36:05Speaker 7: Asian homes.
- 36:06Speaker 3: I draw the line at that.
- 36:07Speaker 7: That is just as offensive as walking in and putting
- 36:09Speaker 7: your feet on somebody's coffee tank.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Look at I. I draw the line at that because
- 36:13Speaker 3: I think at some point the Chinese and the Japanese
- 36:15Speaker 3: have got to recognize, you know, let we don't.
- 36:17Speaker 7: Pushing your one is.
- 36:23Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Jennifer, let the chinaman have what he wants,
- 36:27Speaker 3: but don't let him push you around. And especially if
- 36:30Speaker 3: you haven't washed your feet. That's a little joke. Yeah, okay,
- 36:32Speaker 3: you bill Henri schell, are you sure you exact for
- 36:35Speaker 3: the Asian?
- 36:37Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you what do you do?
- 36:39Speaker 3: Hold on? What do you do here? Always out here?
- 36:42Speaker 4: Tell you just the radio.
- 36:43Speaker 3: I'm on the radio right now with mister my wife Phil. Yeah,
- 36:47Speaker 3: you come in the house.
- 36:48Speaker 6: Stop?
- 36:49Speaker 1: Is that your wife?
- 36:51Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a China woman. What do you want? You
- 36:53Speaker 3: come in house? Stop? Bad boy? I thank you, but
- 36:56Speaker 3: oh goodie, I gotta go.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Uhh okay, Hey ask your wife. She's got that good
- 37:00Speaker 1: peripheral vision.
- 37:01Speaker 3: How do you think she found Me in the Car.
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- 37:20Speaker 3: Thanks Tea,