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Episode 15: Trench Warfare · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

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Hello everybody, and welcome to the Tom and Jerry Show with myself, Jerry
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McBride and himself Tom the barrow Man. How are you keeping, Tom,
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I'm good, nice and professionally in there. No, yeah, I like
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that. You know. That's how most That's how most shows start. Normally
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we start with ten to fifteen minutes of waffle and then we're like, oh,
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by the way, the name of the show is this. In case
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you haven't heard, you're back on the caffeine. So it has to be
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said Tom that I had to back up that truck a little bit and fill
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it up with black gold because people listening. Jerry looks like a new man,
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fresh as a daisy. Last week he had a look at that felt
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it open the Ark of the Covenant. In the End of Indiana, Jones
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he was like just Jones and joneson for some coffee shock, like a handed
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mass. I believe it is the praise Tom, but no, I will
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say. I'll be mad enough to admit when I'm wrong. I was wrong
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to stop drinking caffeine. Tom. I tried to tell you that, but
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look, thankfully you did listen. You got back on the wagon or get
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off the wagon, the old caffeine wagon. You got it, got our
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team. You gotta get to these places. Just soft time. How are
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you doing yourself. It's a hell of a summer we're having, Tom,
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don't you know? Oh suffered God, I have to apologize. Two different
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people messaged about my hand rubbing Russell between my seven and Jerry. We could
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hear my hands rustling into the mic last week, but it didn't really come
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out. I tried to crank it up a bit. If you really listen
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carefully, you can listen to the ridges of my hands. People are like,
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I need to I need this for contact stuff. I can only apologize.
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I'll send you an MP three. It was pretty epic. They're not
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too bad today, although they are not cleaner. I can only they're not
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clean. I apologize for not Tom. Get better earphones, is what I
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tell people. But it's a hell of a summer, Tom, it is.
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We picked a hell of a year to start podcasting, Buddy. The
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news has come and taken fast this week, and we had our pick of
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sporting events. England got beaten in the finals of the Eurosam The tennis is
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rocking and rolling, and I'm still with tennis. Tom I'm like, I'll
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stand here and ask you straight to your face. Is Pete Sampras still playing
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like I would could? I couldn't hold my hand up and say whether which
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a weather? My only bit of sport was I cut the second half of
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the rugby and it was the most violent thing you would see outside of the
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Thunderdome. There was South African split, hump and blood pitching all sorts in
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every direction. It was tremendous. Ireland won it in the last second,
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Royalt rover stuff, and that was me done. I didn't need any more
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after that. I didn't need of curiosity. Tom and I know I said
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let's not waffle this. I said, let's not waffle this week. But
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here we are. Is there a Rugby royal the rovers? Who is Rugby's
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royal? The rogue? There isn't well it right now, an actual real
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one or even like a cartoon or a longstanding the comic or comic strip.
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I think you may have just tapped into something there There isn't Paul Williams.
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Paul Williams, I think he wrote as Paul Williams. No, I don't
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know who wrote along with former rub player Gordon Darcy, They wrote a lovely
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book about how a kid can learn about team spirits and all the rest of
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it, and it's kind of magical. It's nearly like the Harry Potter of
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Rugby. A couple of books. But no, I think you're onto something
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there. I think. So there's no textbook Royal the Rovers or Okay,
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well, let's not just give away the keys to the farm. What would
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the bar taste like? Remember the bars got them? No, God,
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I can't, No, don't go down this route, Tom, We'd be
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into nostalgic speets all of a sudden, and that will just open a whole
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kind of worms. Remember Dan Bars, We all remember Dan Bars. But
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like I said, Tom, we had a whole pilot news this week to
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pick from Wimbledon and the Tour of France. We might get back to that
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next week. We've been saying for a couple of weeks we're going to cover
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the Tour of de France. Here's the thing. Tour de France appears to
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be sixteen weeks long, so it's no rush anywhere we get to it,
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don't you worry. But that's not the big news this week. We have
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to talk about a very specific piece of big news this week, and no
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better segment to do that Tom other than the segment that we call the weekly
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what have you. This is a very complicated case, mad, You know,
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a lot of I a lot of outs, a lot of what have
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you, and a lot of scrants to keep in my head. Man,
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Oh by god, do you know what the weeks? And America is just
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getting order and order to the point where they're saying, ash, look there
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is aliens and we're right now, we're going okay, all right, sure
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that that's another weird thing out of America. The world is that mad America
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especially and former president I think you're supposed to call him still President Donald Trump
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nominee. He damn near got well, he got a piece of he got
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a bit of weight dropped off him by a bullet, skinned right by the
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man's ear. He got garden of getzeminide, you know what I mean.
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He got his hair cut off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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he gotta got a tip of a bullet, which not a nice thing to
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happen to anybody. You know what my resting gear on it is this time?
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Okay. You know, immediately people said, don't shoot your political opponents
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because if you can't beat them in a debate. Then you know, yeah,
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don't shoot them, okay, And then it's like I'm like, okay,
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yeah, don't shoot political opponents. But also not for nothing, don't
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shoot old men. That's a valid point. I do not for nothing as
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well. Tom, I'm gonna tell you how about this, don't shoot anybody.
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Yeah, that's a really good do you know what message for the podcast?
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Don't shoot anyone. It's not nice. It's not nice. But look
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at we're not a political podcast. We're a good breck podcast, and we're
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not going to get into the weeds on whether what happened, or how it
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happened, or where your man's gone or what. We're sure, we're pretty
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certain by the time that drops on tours Day that people will have heard nothing
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but ninety straight hours of Trump getting shot at in a in a field in
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Pennsylvania. Wasn't it Pennsylvania? I believe? Yes, Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, So he's there like there for Groundhog Day, had a couple of
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flags with him. A bullet whizzed past them and clipped them on the ear.
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If you want to go with the official narrative there, Nope, not
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that kind of podcast. I actually did hear that. How we got clipped
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was that it hit the teleprompter machine, which is a glass screen in front
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of you, and the glass flew off and hit him on the year.
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Either way, someone's trying to cap an eighty year old man. Okay,
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yeah, and whatever you think about Trump, and I don't think much of
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them myself, Tom, I don't know about you, but like, at
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the same time, don't shoot no old man. Okay, no, no,
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don't be shooting anybody. Don't be shooting anybody. But Jeremy got us
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thinking, Tom, It got us thinking, yeah, we got to thinking
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that through through our time. And some of them maybe not the smartest things
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or just by pure bad luck. We've had a couple of near missus ourselves
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in our time. We've had a couple of never the us grace of God
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and fools. Tom that we are here podcasting right now. It's true,
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it's true. And when I have said it to people, like the amount
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of folks I talked to that they'll think they've had near misses and stuff.
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And I suppose there is a near there's a potential for a near miss every
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day. Do you know, you know, did Tomorrow's not promised the frozen
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yoke out of the frozen Jacks. What did they check out of? You
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know? Oh the blue eyes side of the side of the blue plane.
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That could kill you, do you know what I mean? There could be
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somebody just just fall out a window and land on you and they survive and
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you're squitched. All these things could potentially happen, but they're not verifiable.
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My seven Jerry have had some moments where were like, are you caught me?
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And in my older years, thinking back now, I absolutely shudder at
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the ocean. That good God Almighty, do what we That was a close
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one. That was a shave, that was a shape. Here's what we're
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going to do, ladies and gentlemen. Using Trump's near miss in Pennsylvania as
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a jumping off point, We're going to give you the nearest we've come to
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death. We might have, you know, I gotta tell you time,
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we might have survived, but I gotta tell you we came close, incredibly
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close to death or serious injuries and numerous times across our lives. And we've
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just picked one. You know, maybe someone will shoot a Trump again in
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a couple of weeks and we can do it. Part two. I don't
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know, Jared, I'll be honest with you when you said it to me,
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which ones do you want? And yeah, which near miss do you
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want? Which we should probably narrow it down town to at least one.
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Well, Tom, do you mind? Do you mind if I give your
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mind first? And that's when we jump in the gun round like that?
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It's just I feel mine? Did dude jump? Then? Did I jump?
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Look? Look, look, don't mention shooting. Ah, I feel
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like mine's going to be more sedate than yours. I don't know, I
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don't know. I think it is so I used to I used to work
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in this place. It was a hardware shop and it had, like,
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you know, the roller up doors. Okay, so do you know the
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garage doors? If anybody's ever had the pleasure of these things, and these
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things hit the chain of it hit me in the face more times. You
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weren't watching what you were doing, and basically what you do if you're not
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familiar with it. It's like a roll up garage door, and it was
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a chain that you had to pull in a milk in a cow milking motion
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that would put the door up. Yes, there he's done right now,
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he's milking a one other cow, a single and no othered cow exactly.
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And the the roller door itself was about twenty feet tall, okay, because
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if I was forgetting for clips in and it was a real big tall roller
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door. And on occasion, Tom, it would kick off the guides,
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it would kick out of the tracks. Yep, it got all it got
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batter, it would kick out of the tracks. You wait me so far.
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You do it yourself. When you get a bit, a little bit
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batter, you kick out of the tracks as well. Look at it can
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happen to the best of us. I don't hold anything in that door.
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So the first, the first time it happened to me, I wasn't aware
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of the procedure of getting it back into the tracks. And I was locking
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up, and it was I'll never forget. It was six o'clock of a
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Saturday night. It was only about seventeen. I wanted to go the hell
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home, okay, And here's this thing kicked off the tracks down line.
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Tom. It got to be that I knew that roll it back up,
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you roll it down, you roll the bake up. But inch by inch
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kicks itself back into tracks. Think about getting the chain back on a bike.
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Yeah, you know, but at the time I didn't know what was
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going on, so I felt like I had to climb up the Oh Jesus
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right, No, we're not even near it here, tom, okay,
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climb up the pallets of slabs. Remember our pallets from last year or last
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week. Here, old friends, the pallets. Climb up the pallets of
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slabs, get up to where the gear is at the top where the rolling
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is happening, and sort of force the thing back into the guide. Yeah
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okay. And I had nothing to hand to force it back in. So
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this was a hardware shop. The great thing about working in a hard ware
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shop you needed to just one on the shelf. There's loads. So I
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ran up and I got myself a thirty inch nail bar good Man, okay,
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which is thirty inches long. It's a nail bar. We've talked about
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pride bars and jockeye bars before you whit me so far, everybody, there
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was a day. It's the hexagon shaped bar. If you look down it
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if it was cross sections and at one end it's curly and at the other
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end it's just got a little little peaked off with a split in the middle
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of it for getting out nails. It's what your man in half life would
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kill aliens. Okay, I'm going to take your word with it. You're
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going to take my word for that. Mm hm. Six or eight people
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in the audience are like, I know exactly what Top and all told in
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your hands wigs roughly speaking, ten kilos. So it was the big one.
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Okay, Oh that's a hefty bastard, you know, not even you
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feel it in your hands. And I went up and I pried, and
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I shimmed and I juped around and I messed around with the taying to get
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it back on the track, and eventually got it kind of back on track,
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I guess. But then when you're rolling the door, we're kind of
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kink. And I was like, okay, I'm going to be up and
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down here all day. I'm not going to be climbing up and down the
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pallets with a pride bar. I'm just gonna leave it at the top here.
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Okay, how many feet up? This is about twenty feet up?
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Okay, yeah, yeah. Termatal velocities are about sixteen foot so yeah,
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okay, yes, And I was only a young fell at the time,
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so I was only maybe about four foot tall. So right there you go.
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I'm tom like, if anybody is seeing this come together like a scene
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out of Final Destination, oh yeah, one one like that is literally what
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it is. But I I was the orchestrator of all this. Who did
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it to you, Jerry? I did it to myself. Like you're just
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short of driving a fork lift, you know, full of giant vampire looking
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steaks, all pointed directly at you, but for some reason, you do
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it upper ramp and they are right. You know. This is like you
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know, I'm just gonna stand here while someone holds pale and posts up a
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hill. Right good God. So I go back down and I'm the roller
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doors coming back down handier now this time because it is back in it,
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but it needs to sort of seat itself a little bit. So basically what
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I'm saying is it's coming down in a truck in motion. Okay, it
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should go yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah. But what it's doing
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is it's kind of bunching up a bit, and then it'll fall by a
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bait eighteen inches, and then it'll bunch up again, and like you know,
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it'll fall down another week bit. Oh this is not getting good.
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And as this is happening, I unbeknownst to me the pride bar at the
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top on the girder above the roller door. It's just inching over and over
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and over and over, and eventually, as it would naturally do, it
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falls and it falls in a javelin motion, straight down and who's underneath it?
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One half of the Tom and Jerry Show podcast What bit of you did?
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Why did it whizz by your What? It whizzed by me? Tom?
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And it hit the concrete between my two feet, Like so I just
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watched this thing in slow motion just go past my nose, like straight down
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like a dart, and it went and you know, it made the big
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noise. But still all in my head was thinking with like oh God,
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like I have to go home, have a shower and like be back into
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town to go to the Fiddler to go drinking. Yeah, yeahatur night,
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of course. And it never even registered me with me that eight pounds of
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pointy steel a kiel is a pointy steelers after falling twenty feet and nearly like
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that would have went straight into the top of my head. Any I'll tell
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you right, any right, I've been hurt by them, just by looking
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at them, the eight and a brand new one as well. None of
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the edges and none of the corners on the bitting smoothed off, like if
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that raised the actory sharp This is the outside of your hand. That's a
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stitch. That's twenty stitches, do you know what I mean? Like,
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oh, Jesus, came down, go down high level to the ground.
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You know what I mean. It just it came down horizontal rather than vertical,
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bun, can you any which way it's breaking? Oh yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah yeah. But by grace of God, if it had
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fallen like length ways, it would have got me. This is he's steel.
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Like this stuff is absolutely ready to add like ridiculously dense. It's called
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do you know, like it's got a lot of nicknames, Tom, but
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you know what it's not called. It's not called a penicillin bar. No,
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no, oh Jesus. And I think that's the I think that's the
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closest near MYSS that I've had that I care to talk about in public.
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But God, damn god, I'm yeah, I like what you got,
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buddy. That was vivid enough. Now I can get into that. And
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I again I had to root through the old memory bank and go. Did
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I talk about this before that, because I mean everybody heard about it was
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the most dramatic one. I think that I was a definite near miss.
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I remember I told you about the piece of corrugated iron that took off like
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a plane. Yeah, yeah, I told you. I think I told
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you about the time I was. You know, we're standing in a been
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giant pond of water. The digger was and hit them the ten thousand fold
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means to Douglas Village, lit up the whole thing to the point that he
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melted a whole four inch hole in his bucket. No, we'll go back
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to the workplace, but we'll go back to the big farm where I did
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I spent I guess I think I spent four four years there between weekends and
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summers and stuff like that. And to give anybody context to this, it
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isn't babe. I'll tell you that it ain't babe. This was, for
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the want of a better phrase, it was a factory farm. Like it
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was. There was ten thousand animals on this thing, and now they have
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roaming around space much more and stuff like that, but back then, not
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so much. It was a you know, not a great environment. It
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would make it easily twenty years ago, right, oh more more more,
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it was probably twenty four years ago, I would say, and it would
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make a rough bloke of you. You know what I mean. Yeah,
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it took it clearly done that. No, this is I'm much softer than
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I was, Oh Lord, to the point that I shudder at the notion
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of exept and put in the place. I don't know how it'd handled it.
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But there's one particular Sunday morning again, a Sunday morning jobby, they
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had a how do you make pigs? They make pigs from beginning to end
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in this place. They don't just buy them in rear them like a lot
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of places do. They have males on site, very virile, big bastards,
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and their job is to go out and be brought to each one of
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these, you know, lady pigs, and they're right, and she produces
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here fun fact, did you know that a pig, if you know,
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in an farmed environment three months, three weeks, three days to the day,
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bang will have anything up to fourteen piglets at the time. There must
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three weeks, three days, yep. And on the money all the time.
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Anyway, I gotta tell you, Tom yours, your your final destination
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scene. Here is a lot coming together, a lot different than mine.
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Yeah, with this one particular morning, I'm there by myself and I'm feeding
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these and whatnot, And I didn't realize that they'd gotten a new a new
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board. All of them kind of knew me. They maybe they had six
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of these guys, and they had big. They did a lot of work
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to do, But they've gotten a new guy. They bought him in.
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This guy probably still if you imagine, you know the boars you see in
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like the black forests and stuff like that. The big, the big this
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guy stood. His back was probably at about four and a half foot.
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Yeah, he was probably weighing in about fifty to sixty stone. He was
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a unit yo. And I gotta tell you, Tom, and i'n apausey
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there oring like that. But when you say a pig, you're like,
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ha ha, a pig. Now say a bore, a bore a boars
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and like all of a sudden, you have my interest now, man,
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you have my full attention. And typically these lads have their tusks trimmed back
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as you would with cattle and stuff like that. This guy is brand new.
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He'd been bought in from someplace. It's supposed to be hot shit,
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I don't know. He'd had his tusks still aren't and they have a paged
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unit, you know, the wather. They're allowed to roam around stuff like
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that. He had worked out during the night how to lift his straight off
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because the gate straight off his cage. Right. Pigs are smart, smart,
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and when they have little when they have giant hooks grown out of their
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face, they can learn how to hook a gate and lift it straight off
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the hinges four times. I don't like. I don't like animal mall in
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here, buddy, say like, I'm actually getting really anxious right here.
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And now I know I'm talking to you, and that's a problem with ghost.
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But go on. Now, you walk into this sliding door, sliding
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door garage shed, and you slide it back, and you slide it back
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immediately just in case one of the girls is loose or whatever out of her
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pen, just and you she can't get out. So that's the thing.
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Now, this is where it gets interesting. I had there been a problem
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with this door. It kept on latching on the outside. If you hit
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it, if you throw it back too hard, you ended up being locked
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in there, and I've been in I've been in a situation. Yeah you
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know what. Yeah, and it should have been fixed a long time previous.
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Well, it's not the end of the world. You walk way down
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the end. There's kind of a half door thing you can climb out,
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and it's pained the ass. But here's the problem between me and that door.
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This big bastard was in the middle of the footpath staring straight at me.
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The sound a bore can make when he's not happy with your presence would
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absolutely shake you down to your core. Like I'm not even going to do
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it justice to try and do it. But this thing is straight out of
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hell, like straight out of hell. And he at four and a half
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foot now maybe fifteen sixteen years of age. I'm not he's taller than me.
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If if he wants for a second, he can just jump yeh yeah
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yah. Like what this glad starts starts making a move towards me, and
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I'm going to I can't get the door up with my back to the door,
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I can't get it open. There's no windows, there's no there's pig
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pens all around me. And to get straight down the straight path, that's
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about one hundred and fifty meters long. He's in the way. Ah,
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my Jesus. Then he starts he Now he's about thirty meters back. I'm
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like, okay, bring me up to give me a crash on boards?
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Tom? Are they fast very fast? Are they? They can turn?
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They can really turn? There? Okay they want now? They can't.
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They can't jump and climb like a lion. That's something. That's something.
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But if they get hold of you, they'll break her back. Then they'll
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gory, and then they'll eat you, and they'll eat you bones and all.
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My good God, he and then at this state, I hadn't actually
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panicked. It was like, a who's this, God, Jesus Christ.
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Then it's Sunday, Yeah, and it's a Sunday. Then he starts galloping.
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He's coming for me, and he can see that I can't get anywhere.
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He wants me out of there, or he wants to suck me up.
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I don't know no other choice. I climbed straight over the top of
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him as he comes at me. I never in mind I couldn't do it.
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You know those failed videos you see so often on the internet where lads
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are going to jump over a car coming at him at ten or fifteen,
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they all get it by the windscreen again, Yeah, rollover, couldn't.
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I couldn't do this Jackie Chan move if I tried one hundred and fifty thousand
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more times. But as he came at me, I ran at him and
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just rolled straight over the top of and kept sprinting and out the back door,
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roaring laughinger, roaring laughing that I couldn't believe he was such a stupid
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big it's it's it's it's. It's that exact emotion where like it takes you
22:33
till later in the day, or maybe even takes it until someone says it
22:37
to ye. Hey, don't you realize what just happened there? Yeah?
22:41
Yeah, because apparently, like this guy, the plan was to actually bring
22:45
in the vet to cut down those tusks. Nobody was supposed to go near
22:48
him. That the message wasn't relayed. He was an absolute savage. He
22:52
needed to be calmed down with a couple of women, and that was going
22:56
to calm him down. That always it tends to work. Once there's a
22:59
they get a couple lady folk into their system. They're like, this is
23:03
going to be no, it's no This is why they're so close to humans,
23:07
you know what I mean, It's just this settles them down. But
23:11
I mean I rolled, and we're talking. He could be eight foot long,
23:14
seven foot eight foot long. I rolled and rolled over this guy.
23:18
Now you want, like if I tried it a million times over a static
23:25
table in the exact same shape, that guy at some point roll off the
23:29
side. I bunk my head off, I would like the way I did
23:33
it. I don't. In my mind's eye, I'm like, how in
23:37
christ name did I get over this guy? Like? But then Tom,
23:40
like, you know you'd never haunted me her dash, Oh yeah yeah.
23:44
Now it's a narrow path, and he took his minute it but he he
23:48
turned and came after me. But I I'm like roaring laughing, I'm in
23:52
Welli's now not I ain't u saying I'm in wellies, all right, So
23:57
you're not even in that, You're not even in your under arm or sprint
24:00
gear. And I mean, I got to get to these big, rusty
24:04
ten mil pick heavy iron doors that are split door you gonna you know those
24:11
doors that they nobody greased them up because you just know it takes you twenty
24:15
seconds to get the things open record time. Still, it took a good
24:21
like seven or eight of those to get it open. And I go and
24:23
this fella is doing this noise jar coming down the path like it sounds kind
24:27
of like yeah, like it sounds Jurassic Parky. You remember that, You
24:33
remember that thing you remember Cheaper as Creepers, your man? Yeah, yeah,
24:36
it was. It was like this like a bear mixed with a fucking
24:40
gun like this, just like what was I can't be doing it. I
24:48
mean, it's it's hands thinking. I couldn't wait to tell the lads about
24:55
and they I knew they wouldn't get the full appreciation of it because they had
24:57
no grasp. And when I told the other guys on the pig farm,
25:00
like there so you know, so many were dead inside anyway, when they
25:03
spoke to you, they were like, whatever, man, I don't care.
25:06
I'm just trying to get through my day or whatever. I don't like
25:07
you could honestly tell them that your hair went on fire just magining and you
25:12
get nothing out of these guys. They were just like they'd be like,
25:17
you know, it's a pity weren killed. We would have gotten other smoke
25:18
break or something. Yeah, it was shut. No, there was so
25:22
there was no fanfare. Like even when I told my friends, they were
25:25
like, I don't I don't get I don't understand. We're sixteen, fifteen,
25:30
sixteen. We don't understand what you're saying to us, because most of
25:33
my friends were like village and town dwellers. So when you're trying to explain
25:37
this to him, going all right, I guess I'll put that in the
25:38
back of my memory. And it arrived somewhere back in my mind. I
25:44
mean, during a documentary about you know, savage beasts or whatever, and
25:48
I'm like, Jesus Christ, one of those he could have ripped my leg
25:52
clean off. Oh Jesus Christ. So that was that was one of the
25:56
many. But I just thought, well, we were time because I gotta
26:00
tell you, there's keep them coming to me, buddy, keep them coming.
26:04
What about the rest of you you can find, folks of the Tom
26:07
and Jerry listenership. Have you had an accident at work that was clearly your
26:11
fucking fault, That's what we're even in the home place wherever it was.
26:18
What's your what's your near miss? Okay, stupid? You can if you
26:21
can beat getting trampled by one feral hog or nearly impaling yourself from the head
26:27
down with a pride bar that you put up. There is know in the
26:33
comments, how about that? How about that? Tom? And listen,
26:37
I'm gonna tell you now. Okay, like I say, at the start
26:41
of the show, we had our man Trump there, who you know,
26:42
we're jusually bound to wish a speedy recovered to I suppose ah and the lad
26:48
that shot him, Uh, may as God go with him. He's not
26:52
with us anymore. Uh he you know, he's a lad. He is
26:57
he was, he was a young lad. Ah, so we will possibly
27:02
a candidate for this week's this Lad. But no, no, not really.
27:07
Just you don't just do something simple like try and assassinate one of the
27:10
most famous people on God's Green Air and be this lad, because you've got
27:15
to do something special if you want to get into the category of this this
27:18
lad. There's that guy. Yeah, it's there's sometimes things with Jerry where
27:26
I suggest that Jerry, you know, every so often, or I think
27:30
maybe that's the thing that people want to listen to, and then I kind
27:32
of go, there's a reason why myselven Jerry did this podcast is because we
27:36
like stuff and we just hope that it's something like we will not like,
27:41
we will not bow to the Yeah, it's stuff that interests those and I
27:47
weirdly Jerr, Thankfully there's people that kind of go along with this and go
27:52
well to that point, Tom, to your point, I want to say
27:53
that this week's this Lad was actually submitted by one of the listeners brilliant.
28:00
Yeah, how you found them, altho? No, it came through on
28:03
the Instagram mehol the Russia. I'm not patching that name, Michael Russia.
28:07
A couple of thought is in there, so I'm gonna go with me Hall
28:10
Anyway, it sent us a clip of what turned out to be this week's
28:15
this Lad. And we've always said that this lad can be this lady,
28:17
it can be this dog, it can be this feral hug, it can
28:19
be whatever it is. And as it was last year it was a scary
28:22
robot, so it can be a machine and I hate to do it twice
28:26
in a road hum, but it's a machine this week as well. It
28:30
is and it is like it's the what struck me for the video. The
28:33
demo video of this thing was like the the seriousness of your mind. I'm
28:40
gonna we're gonna we're get do you know what I know exactly? I think
28:41
I know exactly what you're gonna say, Tom, And we're going to get
28:45
into this. But like before we start rambling about it, we're just gonna
28:48
tell the fine folks of Tom and Jerry show what this machine is. This
28:51
machine that Mehull sent to us, it is called a geo trencher, which
28:57
for anybody wondering, I don't know where the geo comes from. Like,
29:02
but it's a ground right, A terror means ground, I get. I
29:06
guess it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, geography. But I mean
29:08
if it's a trench, it's a trench. Like you know, you're not
29:11
put on a trench in this guy. That's a good point, you know,
29:14
it's a trench is typically happened in the ground and essentially what this thing
29:17
is. More so, I was I was enamored by your man's level of
29:21
seriousness and how like he was. There's no like, hey, check out
29:26
this crud Yok. The man had his strapping on everything. It's like a
29:30
giant chainsaw. And where what would be where the normal teeth would be,
29:34
the chain of teeth would normally be our big kind of the bigger like little
29:38
Elle brackets for all the world. Yeah, and so it is just a
29:42
giant, giant change as best as I could describe it, Tom, it's
29:47
a chainsaw for the ground. Yeah. If you ever felt like you needed
29:51
to chainsaw the ground but just didn't have three thousand dollars to do so,
29:57
wow, boy, let me tell you has has airmander Rasta found the machine
30:03
for you? Well, I tell you what it is. It doesn't serve
30:07
the same purpose. If your chainsaw on something you don't care about the trench
30:11
you're cutting, you would just want to get down the item you're cutting,
30:15
whether it's a tree. But this is for I'm guessing lane cable, lane
30:19
pipe very thinly along the ground. And it's I mean, the irony and
30:25
the coincidence that it is today. Of all, it's very funny about it
30:29
because I proposed it to Tom last week and lo and behold, what he
30:32
was doing today was laying a trench. Now, now we're not talking about
30:36
World War two trenches or World War One trenches. Tom's side note, I
30:41
knew a guy up Airway and we were in the farmhouse one day and I
30:45
goes what's that machine over there? And he goes, oh, that's a
30:48
trencher from World War One that he had just comment ownership of. What did
30:53
it look like? Honestly? Honestly, it looked like a whacker plate,
30:56
you know what a talking wacker plate? Yeah, but if it was about
31:02
the size of like say two whacker plates, one on top of each other,
31:06
and it had like a it had like a handle like a plow.
31:08
So I guess you just walk behind it. And then Jerry, not me,
31:14
the Germans just like shot your sixteen year old ass from one hundred yards
31:18
away? How was that dig trenches? And I was not allowed to have
31:22
a goal? I don't know. So essentially what this thing does is you
31:26
can you get it going in the ground, you pull started it again.
31:30
It's again exactly as you imagine a giant It looks like Ku Holland's chains.
31:36
Yeah, and then you sink it into the ground and get your trench started,
31:38
and then you go off. And the video is amazing, this guy
31:41
is so serious, and the close ups of him putting on the clips and
31:45
the straps and the and you hang it off yourself. But you kind of
31:48
set a set of wheels under it so you can walk there are there are
31:52
there are there are There are two elements to it. Okay, And if
31:56
I'm looking at it right, Tom, I think what you're supposed to do
32:00
is like cut one strip into the ground and then cut another strip six inches
32:04
across from it, and then just shut that loosen and dig that out and
32:07
then you have like your six inch trench. All right, yeah, okay,
32:10
So this doesn't seem to me straight away. I'm gonna be honest with
32:13
you. It doesn't seem to me like three grand well spent like I mean,
32:17
it strikes me as y you do use only the ones. It's a
32:22
very specific person that wants to but it's also you like, and we do
32:25
say it's kind of like a chainsaw for the ground. It's a chainsaw for
32:29
the grind. It's a big, massive, comically oversized marvels the hulk size
32:34
chainsaw to the point that you can stick wheels under it and drag it up
32:38
the feet. Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. It's shown
32:40
in the video demonstration being used in two ways. Number One again, it
32:44
clips it to himself like with a harness, so he's got this sort of
32:50
flight. Vest On I guess if you want to call it that. And
32:52
he clips all this sort of thing onto him so that he can walk,
32:54
and he's not taking the full strain of it. Now you know exactly when
32:58
the cameras stop rolling, he's taking all that stuff for one hundred percent sure
33:00
he is for he wanted. The earmuffs won't have been found, the cool
33:07
sunglasses, goggles won't be anywhere near him, and he's not not strapped in
33:12
nothing. So you can carry it yourself. Okay, So it's like,
33:14
oh, it's like old painless. It's like old painless for the ground,
33:19
right, so you can carry it, or as Thomas said to it here,
33:23
you can also buy a separate like a cart for a trolley, for
33:28
a trolley to go under it. And they've made it like it looks like
33:31
it looks more like a lawn mower. It looks more like a like a
33:35
What do you think you'd use it for? Because I could only imagine if,
33:38
like to I, when I look at things that this, I imagine
33:42
two things. Would you use it more than once? Could you use it
33:45
professionally? Like I suppose it's a professional too? You want to make a
33:49
return on this one? I think I suppose if somebody needed a bit of
33:52
water piping brought down the field, you do a bit of it. Now,
33:55
farmers have a thing called a mold plow. I don't know if you've
33:59
seen one. It's you can put big coil of water piping on the backyard
34:02
tractor and it just kind of guides it in with a little hook into the
34:06
ground and wanted to plow into the ground, leaves it behind. I get
34:08
you, that kind of smashes it in. Yea, yeah, and it's
34:10
done. It's one and done. You drive and the pipe goes to the
34:14
ground. This guy obviously can rock up to lawns and stuff he could put
34:17
out. Maybe sprinkler systems he could put out. I guess like if you
34:22
needed a tap down the indier lawn, this feller could rock in. But
34:24
you I can tell you right now that fucking yolk is overheating like it's eating
34:30
ground. That joke is he showed the picture, showed him about one hundred
34:32
meters. Now he's stopped fifteen times for fag breaks during that. I'm telling
34:36
you now, that joke is roasting. If if you look at it,
34:38
Tom, there's like a second bar to it. Now we've never held this
34:42
in our hands, folks said, we're just like, we're just in all
34:45
of it. I want to go, I want to I want to go.
34:47
Yeah, if you look at it, there's another bar to it that
34:50
I couldn't say what it was for, but I can only imagine that that
34:52
would be hooked to a hose that would keep the blade of a cool like
34:55
a console. Yeah, best to look with that, best look. It's
34:59
not I saw They're worried about the engine, Like, I don't care what
35:02
you have. But I've seen versions of these yolks. Do you ever go
35:07
through like you know, the random reels on on Instagram and there's always Asian
35:10
leads up to Sutton guests. Do you know what I mean? I love
35:15
them, they don't. They will modify Anon to make a plan to get
35:22
it going. And I've seen these yokes on the backs of motorbikes that are
35:27
cutting trenches in the ground that you're just got. You're applotting these lads.
35:30
It's probably going to kill one of them at some stage because the cut of
35:32
the yolk. But like I do, you've never watched those videos Tom and
35:37
wonder why it's not the same lad using it at the end as it was
35:42
rest in peace that guy. I know exactly why because I lived alongside a
35:45
couple of MIT students when I lived in Boston, and they used to knock
35:50
on our door for us to trial the mad yokes that they'd come up with,
35:52
because they were all a bunch of nerds, but they were good crack
35:55
leads. And then one day they came up and they had a rally chopper
36:00
that they or something say, something equate equated. It was like an old
36:05
Shwin, but a fake one. They found it on a bin, straightened
36:07
it out and put a leaf blower engine on it and ran it straight down
36:10
to the front wheel. And they wanted to know if one of us will
36:14
give it a go. And I mean we were de fight each other to
36:16
get at it right. You know, yes, I got on it first.
36:21
Thing should have killed me seventeen times over. But you know it was
36:24
because you were emboldened by your pig vaulting that nothing was a challenge to that.
36:31
But what I'm saying is I love a bit of ingenuity. The only
36:35
thing, and one of many things I will ask myself is yes it is
36:39
this lad and the lad bringing it is also this lad. But I can
36:44
tell you one thing, if you landed onto a job with that thing,
36:47
they're not going look at this lad, They're gonna go this pollocks. I'm
36:53
sorry, sure, it's While I'd love a goal over, there's no way
36:58
I'm landing into a professional outfit with that joke, especially if he brought it
37:04
up to my place today. Because the rocks to earth ratio that that man
37:07
dug out today, this is the Okay, So Tom, you were without
37:10
a geo trencher, without you had a trench to dig, wasn't what was
37:16
one hundred and fifty meters of five inches adducting to go in today? And
37:22
the rocks that came up old geo geo trencher would have just went right,
37:29
That's the sound I would have made. That's it. That god God,
37:35
the I guess, like, you know, you got to take in the
37:37
ground by ground bases because the geo trencher, when we were looking at it,
37:39
it looks to be just cutting through like topsil in Oh. I'm telling
37:44
you a nice little zone desert or whatever toms at the base of the Galty
37:49
mountains here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's glacial rocks looking
37:52
back at it. They would have just chewed it up, spat it into
37:55
the bin and that had been the end of it. But again, if
37:59
I would have known of like your man, if I pulled that out of
38:02
the boot of the car, do you want me to have a go in
38:10
chainsaw circles? It's really big and if you turned up to three with a
38:14
thing that size, lads would go mad. Bestard, look at this cool
38:17
thing. But there's uh, there's a I suppose the point of diminishing returns
38:23
when it comes to certain scenarios. You need to stay in your lane.
38:28
You ain't taken this to the trench convention, do you know what I mean?
38:30
I will say, okay, I'm saying closing. Ah. There was
38:36
two aspects of the video that I quite liked, and I'm gonna share it
38:38
on the socials. Don't you worry about that. You're gonna see this machine
38:40
in action. Number one. I've seen a lad that was digging holes for
38:45
posts with it, and I was very impressed. It is because and no,
38:50
he was just like just sticking it in like like evil dead style.
38:53
He was just ramming this big chainsaw down into the Oh, I like to
38:58
vie it that now and then he was just sort of smogging it around a
39:00
wee bit and it left a hole and you can put a post down.
39:02
Oh fine job. Yeah, okay, so yeah I'm into that now.
39:07
The other thing, Tom is, did you notice the music in the video?
39:09
Yeah, there was no need at all, just let the saw run.
39:14
Man, we want to hear that. Don't be playing some weird porno
39:17
music over the thing. And this guy with his sunglasses on as well.
39:21
It was like, come on, here's a guy that's like cutting up a
39:23
cricket picture or whatever the hell it is. And the music like and and
39:27
this thing is like four foot long. He has the chained on to himself
39:30
like Ripley at the end of Alien like he's just like ready to kill.
39:35
And the music like bl blink b yeah blinkom just this little Kelly Toby's music.
39:42
Now they got, they got whoever produced that. They got that that
39:46
was a mixer of somebody doing something completely different because it was the close ups
39:51
of the clips that he was clipping on to himself. And okay, we
39:54
didn't need to see how a man puts together a clip on it, you
39:59
know, cliping it him. Just show us how did they they like they
40:02
were not thinking of the customer when they made that. That's why I love
40:06
the video so much. It was so shy. The machine is cool,
40:08
but you're like, you've completely missed the point. Anybody, anybody's gonna buy
40:14
not is not enjoying this video at all. It very is like all painless
40:17
the gun from Predator in that regards in as far as it's incredibly heavy,
40:22
yes, it's very effective, but it weighs a ton. It's gonna run
40:28
out of ammunition, like almost instantaneously, and then you have to carry this
40:31
six grand weapon around with you. Well, if you're chewing tobacco, which
40:42
so that is this week this like that one is it's such a weird one,
40:46
like there's yeah, there's no way and I look not for nothing.
40:52
If you guys out there spot something like that, send it to us.
40:54
You never quite make the podcast. There you go, he's a good man.
41:00
Behold good man, good meat, good man. But at the same
41:04
time, you know, with that being said, don't be sending us every
41:06
week bit of fucking rubbish that you see. Uh send there's a flying balance,
41:09
there's a fine balance you got. You gotta make sure this is going
41:14
to punch through the envelope, you know what I mean. Like you know
41:15
you'll be saying like, oh, I've seen the shiny hammer. Yeah,
41:17
we all have. You know, I know are tuned in. They're tuned
41:22
in, right, that's it. Nearly assassinated the president, Doug some trenches.
41:30
I think that's a good week's work for anybody, wouldn't you agree?
41:36
But oh, we've our Geo Trencher has his I talked about taking that out
41:44
of the boots of the car, out of the back of the van and
41:45
appearing like an absolute bollocks me. Yes, you it can happen. But
41:51
there's a moment where I think we're going to have to have a rout there
41:53
because I have now since discovered now there's been a few things pop up on
41:58
this and I didn't think it was it was as bad as it was,
42:00
but this Carhart thing has completely gotten out of hand. And I know you're
42:07
city weller now, and I hate saying it to you, but you are
42:09
a city dweller now, but you were Carhart, don't you don't stop?
42:20
Well, here's the thing, Okay, okay, so let's get let's get
42:22
everybody up to speed on this time before we really rip into it. Okay,
42:25
you know we're odds in this yere a little bit. No, it's
42:29
a scandal, all right. So Carhart, Tom, longtime listeners with the
42:34
Tom and Jerry Show might remember that we've spoken about Carhart before. Cart I
42:38
hate to say, Tom, it's not Carhart is it's Carhart was a work
42:44
where brand. Yeah, oh no, it's not even close, not even
42:46
close. I had a pair, and I want i'd say one of the
42:50
last payers they made. Maybe they make them now, but they were.
42:55
They are sports on him in inside a week, not worth the ship.
42:59
And I knew that we were in trouble. There was something common, there's
43:01
something wrong there. And then all of a sudden, hipsters started wearing the
43:07
ship. So so Carhart would be like the brand like Snickers workware. Okay,
43:14
so you know the sort ofies for American our American listeners, Dickies,
43:19
Dickies, yes, Dickies, Snickers, Caterpillar do good work, where this
43:22
kind of rugged apprentice electrician where you know, like you know, you know.
43:30
And I dare say that there's some of the ladies out there, indeed
43:35
gay gentlemen as well, who appreciate a fine young man wearing a pair of
43:39
Snickers or Dickies or Carhart workware. I've never been wolf. I've never been
43:45
wolf with myself. I have three or four payers of I've sidestepped, I've
43:51
gone full kit anker. I'm mister de wall. Now I've the word.
43:54
They're the ones I'm with at the minute because of and they have the arts
43:58
hasn't burst on him in two months? There there there. The the expression
44:02
comes up every now and then to snickers, drop snickers, go away?
44:09
Never never know what can we say? No? Never? Carhart would have
44:15
been you know, good look and rugged work where like that? Okay,
44:20
you're going to get your trenched. If the lad wrocked up his what is
44:23
it now? Tom? What is it now? What is it now?
44:25
Now it is? I'll tell you when I saw Carhart and knew it was
44:30
gone down the cant. I was in a place called Shoreditch in London,
44:35
okay, which is like London is very much it's it's England in itself and
44:40
that there's well, it's it's it's not England. But what you have is
44:45
people love identifying as groups. They fucking love it. Heaven forbid you be
44:50
actually an individual. So you literally walk through divisions, almost like something out
44:54
of Hunger Games, where you walk into certain places and you're we're in the
44:59
bank now, or we're in the banking area because everybody's in suits and all
45:02
we're in the same fucking thing. Oh and then shortage happens. Shortage,
45:07
to give you context, Jerry, is where those two gas bastards from the
45:13
north opened up Serial Killers restaurant where the service. Yeah, but they knew
45:19
what they were doing. And I hope because of the whole the boyson from
45:22
Belfast, I hope that it was a tongue in cheek. You know,
45:28
I can't knock castle, So what tell me this much? Tom? The
45:32
reason why we are talking about this this week is that Carhart has opened its
45:37
first ever Dublin shop. And I'm not talking about oh, if you go
45:42
out to be and que you get yourself a pair of cards. And we're
45:45
talking about a specific car Heart shop, which you know, there was a
45:51
time if you'd heard that, Tom, you'd been like, oh sweet,
45:53
they must have like really cool work wearing it. What have they now in
45:57
it? Tom? What have they gotten it now in Carhart Dublin, which
46:00
is in Dreary Street. And I don't know every street in Dublin, but
46:02
I know that that ain't were a lot of workmen. I'll tell you now,
46:07
I'm not joking to I walked Dry Street about a month ago to meet
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Hi man at the top who we were going to do. I was going
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to a show. It was saying he was a booker. And I got
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out of the car. Part the injury street. Car park is that all
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the worldy car park under And I walked up it and I walked in there.
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I'd gone straight from the buildings, I got wash jumping the car,
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got there, got out and walked up that street. And the first thing
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I said to him when I went to the off the top, I went
46:30
some amount of soft fucking bastards down there. And he started roaring laughing,
46:35
and he looked down and that's what you're seeing. You're seeing lads with their
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fold rolled up little skull cap, beanie hat stay, you know, looking
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like an ironic sailor. You're seeing lads where And the fact that it has
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opened up on that street, it is everything that work where is not They
46:52
have car heart has sold out like if once upon a time when I saw
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people wearing work like that, I saw a fellow wearing a car jacket in
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shortage. At that time, the same fellow was cycling a fucking penny farthing.
47:05
Jerry. I'm sorry Jesus Christ, but he was. You know,
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I wanted to run his head through the wall when I saw it. And
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my first thing was stolen valor. You that is stolen valor. You have
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no business wearing that uniform, sir, Do you know what I mean?
47:17
Like these LED's who fake being a war and stuff like that to try and
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get a free burger, you know, and they get shamed on Instagram for
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stolen valor, this guy, and now we've evolved as far as this,
47:29
they're just like, had you not enough money in the building game? Had
47:32
you not enough money in the building game, the forestry game? Do you
47:37
know what I mean? Where? Now you've just ventured into hell and now
47:42
you're making ironic, ironic cloth workwear. That's what it is. It's not
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workware, it's ironic workwhere And I'd say that, I'd say the prices are
47:50
fair ironic as well about it, Tom, But he let me let me
47:52
ask you a question, right are we talking? Because I haven't been in
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the shop just yet, nor do I intend to be good man or will
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they have be Are we talking that this is actual work where that the hipsters
48:06
and the youth of the day have just started to wear or haven't they just
48:09
completely thrown any sort of health and safety guidelines out of this? Did the
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trousers even have a hammer hip? What are we talking about here? Nothing?
48:16
They have nothing. They have no nail they have no nail pockets,
48:21
they have no triple stitching. They have no kneepad, you know, little
48:24
kneepads pockets down the front. They have nothing. They have Yeah, like
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I said, no hammer loop, they there's nothing on them. They're yeah,
48:36
they're just culturally appropriating and our heart are absolutely peddling this. It's an
48:42
absolute scandal. It's right, it's right up there with opening like opening a
48:46
shop with Native American headdress, but making it out of things that don't relate
48:52
to those lads at all. But it's just you know, just enough to
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go, well, we want to appropriate this. I don't know what these
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lads are trying to achieve by wearing Carhart, but Carhart are playing up to
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them like you couldn't believe. And it's a it's exactly paper won't refusing and
49:07
I understand if they have investors or they have shareholders to go, we need
49:13
more money, and there isn't enough other lads digging trenches because do you know
49:17
what, Once upon a time, the Toyota land Cruiser had a twenty five
49:21
year life on every nothing bolt in it because it was made to military grade.
49:28
And then after a while, around the two thousands, I think with
49:30
a land cruiser, they decided they went, what the fuck are we doing?
49:35
I'm sure nobody's coming back in with them. We're selling nothing here,
49:37
We're making them too good. Let's just push up to where we make the
49:42
land cruises. It's the same as we make in the Corollas and Carinas and
49:45
all the rest of it. They have ten years max on their bits and
49:47
pieces before it starts falling off. So that's actually, that's actually quite that's
49:52
a good analogy for a tom Okay, So what Carhart have done and are
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doing. They wear one thing and then they sold out to something completely different.
50:00
So that's very like your your your land Rover Defender, which used to
50:06
be a rugged farm vehicle where it gets you on and off the land and
50:08
whatnot, and now it's for getting your kids to and from rugby, yeah,
50:15
or when you're when you're playing, when you're playing for Chelsea, you
50:17
know, it's a great thing to rock up in, like you know,
50:20
just it was one thing and now it's another. And it used to be
50:22
an affordable thing for the working person and now it's completely out of the realms
50:28
of all but the super rich with money to burn. And that's your that's
50:31
your gripe about it, Tom, That's what we're round about right now,
50:35
right, that's what we're round about. Could they not have just stayed where
50:37
they were, stay true to what they were supposed to be and now or
50:40
now they're this now that. But I'm also like, like I said,
50:45
paper doesn't refuse, Think what are lads? What are these lads trying to
50:49
achieve? What are they trying to achieve? Achieve by wearing this gear?
50:52
But yet they're yet they're they're sitting outside a trendy bar on drewery streets wearing
50:59
card like counter point, Tom, counterpoint, what are your thoughts on Levi
51:08
Strauss on the Wrangler? Because that was heavy hardware and denim for cowpokes and
51:19
working men and still is and lads going to non alcos in the gale duct
51:32
the denim jackets of the cowboys, and the hardware and denims that were built
51:37
to not wear away when you were riding on a horse for one hundred miles
51:40
where all the fabrics would wear off. All of a sudden found itself coming
51:45
off the ranches and coming into the cities and going to bars. And I
51:47
dare say, you do you sit there in front of me, Tom with
51:52
out a pair of jeans in your wardrobe, man man wearing a pair of
51:54
jeans right now? J okay, So what have you done that Carhart have
51:58
not done? I was in a fucking trench today digging fucking rock. Makes
52:01
a good point to ye, Jesus Christ Jerry up to my bannecks and walking
52:08
rocks in my genes. He they they can still be used back the other
52:17
way. Like from every culture has three pairs of jeans, you know what
52:21
I mean. You've got your working jeans, You've got your like go to
52:24
an office jeans, and then you've got your Sonday jeans that you might wear
52:30
to a Christenin or something. Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, So
52:35
your Christenin jeans and your work jeans are not the same. Maybe your Christening
52:37
jeans might eventually, through time and wear become your working jeans. Oh no,
52:43
they always end up. That's the lifespan. But the typically the thing
52:47
is you can trust them to always get there. Like I don't have a
52:52
problem with Carhards selling to lads, but at some point they still got to
52:57
stand up to what they're they're supposed to be. Do you know what I
52:59
mean? That if I walked up Ry Street and theose lads sitting outside,
53:04
you know, drinking whatever, a snazzy coffee or whatever, and there was
53:08
you know, I see there's knee pads and there's got nail pockets hanging off
53:12
them. Like all right, okay, fair enough. You know, at
53:15
a drop of a hat, these lads could pick up a geo trencher and
53:17
start working away somewhere. But when I see, like when it looks like
53:24
what side is paying you lads enough money to have fancy coffees? But like
53:29
when I see see these what Carhart are producing nowadays, Like go look Carhart's
53:34
fashion range, Like you're looking at these absolute bastards wearing this gear, like
53:40
you're talking about things that look like and now and then a his house coat
53:44
and they just happened to have their Carhart Like I think, I think what's
53:49
happened here? Tom okay, and I don't think you know, you know,
53:52
we're not We might not reach consensus. We throw it open to the
53:54
to the to the fine folk of the Tom and Jerry listenership to see what
53:58
they think. I think the main problem here is that Carhart have done in
54:01
five years what Wrangler and Levi did in fifty, Like it was a long
54:07
gradual draw you out of the workplace into the fashion realm. And Carhart,
54:15
rather than let that evolution come, they seem to have just hit a switch.
54:19
Yeah yeah, and you flicked from one to the other. Even still,
54:22
cowboys still wear jeans, do you know what I mean? Like?
54:25
And nothing has changed there, Like there's still genes to be warned. Did
54:29
cat did Carhart shut down the work word department? Well, I tell you
54:31
one thing. The last player I had, like I said, they ars
54:34
burst on him in a week, burst on him in a week. And
54:37
that's no sign of a good pair of work work trowsers. I'm just going
54:40
to say that might be fifty percent work trousers and fifty no no fall,
54:52
stolen valor. That's what it is shots fired. Shots fired? Folks,
54:54
are you wearing carhart while you're listening to the Tom and Jerry Show. If
54:59
so, the feud is a for what else would you like to see appropriated
55:01
about the fashion industry? Maybe Real Leave Camo should make it. Don't you
55:06
don't you there? Don't you there? I'm looking at a whole rack of
55:08
differently real Tree cameo jackets for various uses. Don't you dare? I swear
55:13
to God, don't you dare? If Real Tree camel man, let us
55:16
know in the comments if you feel as strongly about it as Tom does,
55:21
or if, like me, you don't know what you wear from one end
55:22
of the day to the next. Other than that, what about that?
55:25
That's the Tom and Jerry Show. If you want to see that geo Trencher.
55:30
If you want a promo code for the car Hardshop, you ain't gonna
55:32
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55:36
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55:47
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55:55
I always do many fortunate then you. I am all over the place Tom
55:59
take him home. There you want to do well, Look at whatever platform
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56:16
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grab up where you're listening. Tell us you know, tell us what it
56:25
is you you almost got killed by you had I'd love to hear what you
56:30
people are. I really would. Yeah, yeah, because even as long
56:36
as it also didn't like really injury it because I don't. Oh no,
56:38
no, it's near. It's a near miss. We need to know where
56:42
you go a near miss and like that twenty years down the line, it's
56:46
only then you realize, good God almighty, that was a near miss.
56:51
So I think people know the tone we're looking for. Yeah, exactly.
56:53
They get the vibe, but I'm not sure my fig tropical Blast. I'm
56:59
into this. You got me into this a while back. It's going on
57:02
the Tropical Blast from Aldi, isn't it. It's good tech. I like
57:06
it. Apparently zero sugar. You go buy in that bo At the same
57:09
time, I'm happy enough sadly. Will you enjoy that problem and we'll see
57:15
everybody back here next week. Good look.