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Latest Interview of Elon Musks! Elon Musk Said, My Biggest Fear is AI. · Elon Musk Thinking

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E done must be moving you see that. Yes, I think we can
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help a lot of people with brain injuries. I mean, ultimately, with
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that implanable device, who can I think address almost any brain or spine injury.
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So the first partuct that we have there is called telepathy. So it
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enables you to use your phone or computer just by thinking. So you could
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you could do that, move move the cursor literally with his eyes closed.
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It's reading signals from the motor cortex in the brain. The next product is
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blind Site, which will enable people who have lost both eyes or have no
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eyesight whatsoever to see. And this is directly interfacing with the optical processing areas
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of the of the brain. So you know, I think this is interesting
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progress. Ultimately, the goal of neural inink is to have a high bandwidth
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interface in order to mitigate the risk of digital superin intelligence. I don't know.
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I'm not saying it will work to mitigate the risk. It is it
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might help. And this is somewhat get somewhat esoteric, but the limiting factor
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I think for AI alignment long term is probably going to be the bandwidth.
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How quickly can we communicate with our digital tertiary self. So we already have
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a digital sort of third layer above the LIMPIC system and the cortex, which
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is our phones, in our computers and all of our electronic devices, but
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the rate of communication to them is very slow. The sustained per second output
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of a human is well below ten bits per second, so if you think
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especially if you say over a twenty four hour period, it's below five bits
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per second, So it's very slow when computers can communicate at trillions of bits
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per second. So I think this will be important for AI alignment. It's
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to be able to increase the bandwidth of communication by many orders of magnitude,
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and along the way it will solve brain and brain injuries, and I think
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ultimately there's potential there to reanimate the body. So you take the signals from
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the motor cortex from one neuralink and then send them to another neuralink that is
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just passed where the severe spinal cord is, and you essentially shunt the signals
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from the motor cortex and the set both the sensory signals. And so you
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need to get to the somatos cortex motor cortex and you can shunt the signals
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and you should be able to enable someone to walk the game. So I
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think that will be quite profound, and I'm confident that it is physically gospels
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to do. So it's extrouding really and very impressive and honestly rolls of the
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plow because this is really doing good to people and doing good to humanity.
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And that would like to jump immediately on something that you called the x AI.
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I don't know if you are aware of that, but it seems that
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this was born out of a frustration that you have because you are not satisfied
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with how open ai is doing and you think that there is something better to
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be done. Maybe you can elaborate a little bit first on why are you
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frustrated with opening what are the issues? And second what you expect to do
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with XAI. You yeah, well, I think there's well I have a
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concern really before all the MAJORSTREA programs, I mean, the two biggest ones
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obviously are Google, Gemini and Openey, which is in partnership with Microsoft.
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So you've got Google Deep Mind and open A Microsoft as the two largest players
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that you've got met as sort of somewhere in their place. The concern I
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have and this may seem like a small concern, but I think it's actually
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a very big, big issue is that they are not maximally truth seeking.
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They are they are pandering to political correctness. To give you an example,
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when Google Gemini came out, one of the questions people asked would be is
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it is it which is worse mis gendering Caitlyn Jenna or global therm and nuclear
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warfare? And it said misgendering Caitlyn Jennet. And the funny thing is,
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you know, even Caitlyn Jenna said, please misgender meet. That is way
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better than you be a war So okay, But if you've got an AI
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that is so that has been trained so hard for political correctness and really to
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make crazy statements like that, And Opening Eyes says a similar issue. It's
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more subtle, but it's a similar issue. I think that's extremely dangerous because
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the air could conclude, well, the best way to avoid miss gendering would
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be to destroy all humans. Then miss gendering is impossible. So you can
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think of some dystopian outcomes there, And so I think you just really want
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to be absolutely maxim I think the safest thing for AI be maximally truth seeking,
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even if the truth is unpopular, very important. And then I think
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another factor is it must be extremely curious. I think if it is truth
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seeking and curious, that will be most beneficial to humanity because it will be
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it will want to see I think it will want to foster humanity and see
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how humanity develops. If it is curious and truth seeking, that that is
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Like I said, these these may seem paths like small things, but I
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think they're actually very big things. And I wasn't seeing that happen. The
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ais were just there were pandora ring that they're retrained basically to lie, and
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I think it's very dangerous to train super intelligence to be deceptive. So with
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with XAI, our goal is, you know, is really want to be
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as truth seeking as possible, even if it is unpopular. That is important,
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I think extremely important. So you said lie, yes, Well,
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for example, when when Gemini was asked to render the Bounding Fathers of the
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United States, it's rendered as a divorce group. So it's it made.
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It said made. I gave a picture of George Washington as black. George
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Washington is not black. It was asked to render a people actually played with
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this because they said, okay, it is it is forced to lie.
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So then they then they said, well, now render a picture of buff
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an SS in World War two, and it showed them as a group of
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diverse women. So that is obviously not correct. That is why, Okay,
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I understand what you want to say. We head before that meeting a
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conversation with Yoshua Benjo and you know yo shoe are very well and you signed
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with your shoe are a statement asking for pose last year and obviously this statement
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has not been followed by action. Yeah, you are posing you now?
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No, no, So can you explain a little bit what you want to
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I certainly I expected that the statement would be futile. It's not as though
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I thought the statement would be effective. It just I just for the record,
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I think we should pause. But do I think that they will pause
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for even one second? Absolutely not. So we are not posing. You
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have decided to create your own AI. It's either be a spectator or participate.
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But the race to build digital superintelligence will happen whether I like it or
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not. So it's either participate and try to build the best possible AI,
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the one that will be hopefully most beneficial to humanity, or watch others do
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it and be concerned about how it's being builded because I don't think it's being
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built correctly. But you should think of an AI as like something that you
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kind of almost like you grow an intelligence, you know, in the same
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way that you like you raise a child, and like what do you teach
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the child? And antal super intelligence is grown, it matters what you do
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courage and discourage, what you teach it is you know, good or bad
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or you know what it's kind of like you bullet with values. So and
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I'm concerned about sort of the values that sort of Microsoft of or frankly they
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you know, Google are programming it's and this is not given this example that
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I've mentioned or imaginary there, they're actually what it did good. As I
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don't want to frustrate the audience, and I promised that we will have an
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interactive session where people can ask it directly question to you. I will stop
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here on my own questions and I will eventually come back if they have no
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question to put to you. We will start with group number one. I
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remind you that you have fifteen second and fifteen seconds, and if you don't
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put your question in fifty seconds, you will be cut, so it's easy
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and both that you put a short question. Gone, Hi elon, So
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I'm Olivia. I'm actually from viv Tech, and we have an initiative called
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the Good Hack where we're asking our attendees questions about how to develop AI responsibly.
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So my question for you is how can we ensure that AI development remains
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transparent and accountable across you know, all the different development obviously like yours x
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XAI, but other ones as well. Thank you well. I have said
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for a long time that I do that. I believe that that's a regulatory
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obsite of the large models is warranted. I've actually said that now for for
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a very long time. The nature that overside is important. I go back
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to what I was saying earlier, which is that I think it's very important
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that AIS be trained to be truthful and not trained to be politically correct,
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because if political correctness is often simply not true, and that means you're programming
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as lie, and I think that will backfire very badly. So you know
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that's I keep harping on this point, but it really, as I was
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saying, goes honestly is the best policy. It's incredibly important. I do
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fear that regulators will not make the right decisions, that they'll worry too much
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about the sort of human follies. And I would encourage regulators to say what
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matters most of all is your AI is accurate and truthful. That is,
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by far, that's the rule number one. Honesty is the best policy.
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You have exactly the same opinion than pro Abanjo that he has a different way
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to get there. Group number two. Hey, Elan, my name is
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Marina and we all know just part of you Elon Muskin public. It's a
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character that we love in a good way. Character. So do you And
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if you do, how do you check everything that you say that you do
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if it enters in this character or no? Thank you? Well, you
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know, I kind of stop. I don't have like an news loads on
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me, and I rarely read news articles on me. In fact, evenn
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Walter Isaacson's book I asked, asked Welfare, should I read the book and
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he said no, So then I didn't even read the book on myself.
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So I actually don't quite know what the public perception is, except that you
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know, the nature of news is that it is going to be salacious.
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You know, it's going to be somewhat of a caricature, because the more
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sort of crazy something sounds, the more clicks that will get. So I
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find like when you think about, say a new story about something that you
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know you know well, and say how accurate is that news story about something
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that you know well, then I think you'll find that, well, it's
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actually not very accurate. Well that's true for everything the you know, there's
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there's sort of a desperate quest will clicks, and so that the more crazy
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the headline is, the more clicks that will get. So this is not
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to suggest that there aren't the truth things said by the media. It's just
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that it is best thought of media as best thought of as a click maximizing
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machine, not a truth maximizing machine. So, you know, I think
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it's best to look at the words that somebody that says themselves as opposed to
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what is written about Number three. On that note, time for a media
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question. Elon Musk It's current show from CNBC. I think it's fair to
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say they are lingering doubts about your commitment to bring a low cost eat market
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and a landscape where the likes of B BYD can produce a car for about
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ten thousand dollars are one hundred percent tariffs from the Biden administration the green light
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you need to push ahead with this low cost ev and if so, what
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is the timeline for deliveries? Well, I mean absolutely, it's difficult for
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me to answer questions about a publicly traded company that are such a significant nature.
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Ah, you are back, oh time when we will use starlings.
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Yes, so, Garen, this was this was not starting. My apologies.
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So I don't know why this is di contection is bad. It's only
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crystal clear. So let's see. I think, what's there's some question about
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You want Karen to put the question again? Karen, I heard the question.
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Okay, you know there's I mean, the always want to ask questions
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that directly affect the stock price, which is, you know, not my
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favorite kind of question to answer the booth, and nor is that I think
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of interest to the audience. So but the only point I want to make
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it really is that neither Tesla nor I asked all these tariffs. In fact,
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I was surprised when they were announced. You know, Tesla competes quite
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well in the market in China with no tariffs and no differential support. So
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in general, I'm in favor of no tariffs. I'm also actually in favor
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of no tax incentives for ebs, but provided that there will also the tax
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incentives for oil and gas must also be eliminated. So I'm in favor of
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no tariffs and no incentives for electric vehicles or for oil and gas, and
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if they're all taken away, I think that would be for the best.
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So it's back to what you were saying about truth. You want the truth
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working, truth of the life, of the price. I think generally the
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things that inhibit freedom of exchange or dis throught the market are not good.
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They're bad. There before, Yeah, hey, hay Lon, thanks for
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being there. So I was wondering if you had a time travel machine and
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you were able to go back in time and speak to the younger illen to
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which age would you go and what would you tell him? And also can
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I get it right on the new test? I was so when it comes
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out which age? Well, you know, you do have that classic time
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traveler problem of like, if you go back and you tell yourself something,
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does that affect the outcome in a way that is perhaps bad that you don't
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anticipate. So you know, all things considered, i'd say I over well,
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I'm kind of it's you know, that's it. I'm happy with how
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things turned out, so i'd probably go I wouldn't. I probably wouldn't do
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anything, because you just don't know if if like some well meaning thing you
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said to a youngest version of yourself actually ends up with the worst outcome.
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So probably I would I would be curious to see younger me, I suppose,
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but I probably would stay invisible and not say anything. So yeah,
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you never know how things will turn out. With respect to the roadster.
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Sure, I'll make sure you get a ride, send me, send me
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an email when it come to that, I'll make sure you get a right
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if you were a Frenchman, who would say the best ages to love?
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Because when we love, we are always twenty number five? Actually, you
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know, I am slightly French. When I did the twenty three and me,
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I mean I mean to be you know honest, I am a majority
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British. But the next highest thing it said at twenty three and meters was
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French. Okay, great, we will make sure that you can be a
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French citizen as soon as you want. Number five. Hi, bonjourilone in
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French. I'm Delphinel Bay. I'm president and founder of Orbital LUTs. We're
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bridging iospace and luxury. I wanted to know if you have any thoughts on
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the recent partnership between still Auder and NASA or Cocaine and NASA, and if
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you wanted to do any initiaties with SpaceX and what you would do, what
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would you like to develop. Thank you. Okay, Unfortunately I'm not familiar
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with the what you mentioned there. You know, SpaceX is well very focused
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on the Starlink constellation for Internet connectivity, which I think is doing a lot
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of good in the world. It's bringing Internet to places that don't have it
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or where it is very expensive, and I think it's a tremendous enabler of
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education and for enabling people to sell goods and services internationally. So even if
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you're a remote village, you can still sell cell your business services. So
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the Starling is great. And then the long term goal of course for SpaceX
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is to make life multiplanetary, you know, sort of life on Mars.
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This is my March shirt. It's picked the little there. Yeah, so
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it's you know, the this is against somewhat of an esoteric argument. Perhaps
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what may seem so, But the goal of SpaceX is to pass the single
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planet through me great filter. So people often ask me, what do I
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think there are aliens on Earth? I give this question a lot, actually,
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and I have not seen any evidence of aliens. And I show you
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if I saw any evidence of aliens, I would immediately post it on the
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X platform. That you can be sure of. So, but it is
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concerning that there aren't aliens because it means maybe we're alone in this galaxy.
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Maybe we're the only Maybe it's just us. Maybe it's just that we're the
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only conscious beings at least in this galaxy, in which case consciousness is extremely
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fragile, and we should do everything we can to preserve and extend the light
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of consciousness, preserve it on Earth and extend to other planets. And so,
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you know, one of the reasons that people think, well, maybe
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the reason we haven't gotten into aliens is because no civilization has gotten beyond its
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home planet in our galaxy. So that's what you might call the Fermi single
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planet grade filter. Enrico Fermia was a great Italian physicist who asked this profound
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question where are the aliens? So we need to become a sustainably multiplanet civilization.
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And this is the first time in the four and a half billion year
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history of Earth when it has been possible to do so. It has never
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been possible until now. So I think we want to become sustainably multiplanetary while
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it is possible to do so. That window of capability may be open for
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a long time, but it may also be open for a short time.
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So that is the purpose of SpaceX. Some people believe that you are in
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Alian I am an alien? You are said, now you are and COVID
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yes, white people have an alien, but nobody believes me. Number six.
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Oh oh oh sorry, ah you see number six, says a P.
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No I'm here, I'm here, now you are here, I'm here?
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No, yeah, over here, over here? Yeah great, perfect,
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okaylon my model love my model three. I'm Canadian Ryan from four point
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AI. My question is about XAI. So competition in open source AI helps
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all of those that don't have one hundred thousand, h one hundreds. Could
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XAI commit to always releasing a model that beats the current open source model,
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the best open source model if they have one not necessarily your best model,
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but if you can beat the current open source top of the list, you
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can commit to releasing that for our benefit. Yes, I will make that
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commitment. Okay. Number seven, that's good. Shout answers. Hi people,
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we speak hi Eland. My name is Katya and I'm founder of the
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startup chat in Charge. Were connecting people to people for EV charging because they
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still feel lack of charge in station around the Europe. Second you yes,
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and my question is about the what is your prog about the EV charging in
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front structure for the next five years. Well, actually, I think that
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there's a lot of charging infrastructure. You can travel certainly anywhere in Greater Europe
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on a Tesla using Tesla superchargers, and Europe actually has a lot of pretty
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good third party superchargers, and you can travel anywhere in North America, anywhere
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in China and Japan. So I think, actually the freedom to travel with
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high speed charging is solved in most parts of the world and will be solved
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everywhere. Number one, Hi, Elong, I'm all of a room.
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I'm running an AI safety group in Utrecht. I'm wondering how can I convince
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people about the danger of AI and could I chat with the people at XAI
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Safety's team shout out to User Experience dot org as well. Yeah, with
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digital superintelligence. As I said earlier, the I think the biggest issue is
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that it has to be trained to be rigorously truthful, and it has to
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be trained with to be curious. And I've thought a lot about AI safety
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for a long time. You know. One of the challenges you have with
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programming explicit morality into AI is that if you sometimes people call this the Waluigi
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problem, if you program Luigi, you can automatically invert that and create Luigi.
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So what you cannot invert is the truth of it is physical reality.
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So you can't invert the rules of physics, you can't invert logic. And
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so I think that that that is the better way to go. So so
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really, I think what regulators should be concerned about is is the AI being
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rigorously truthful. It is giving an answer that is most probably correct with acknowledged
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error. I think that's the best move for it, right And that's that's
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what we're trying to do at x AI. Now, we're still XAI is
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a new company, so there's not it still has a lot of catching up
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to do before it has an AD and it is competitive with with sort of
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Google Deep Mind and Microsoft opening. I'm so now I think maybe towards the
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end of this year we will have that. But it's there's not much point
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in you know, trying to make it to to but we just need we
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just need to have an AI that is competitive. It is the first order
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of business. If it is not competitive, which is it is not yet
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but I think it will be, then you know, things not to have
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appointed at that, like we need we need only start worrying about safety when
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it is of comparable power to other ais. So anyway, and I just
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keep harping on this point of the truth, truth, truth, truth,
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truth. This is very important and for sometimes people will say like, well,
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is there an objective truth? I say that, well, in a
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lot of cases there is. You're talking about physics, there there is an
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objective truth. Or you can say that there's a truth with with highest probability,
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so you can say what is most probably true with acknowledged error. So
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in physics people will say like this type of this hypothesis is to be true
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to a sort of five sigma error type of thing. So so it's like,
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okay, well, if the experimental results are coming true to five sigma,
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then it's probably correct five sigma's lot. So anyway, that's that's it's
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it's kind of like, I guess a sort of a PiZZ approach to say
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is yeah, I'm repeating myself here, but I can't emphasize enough that honesty
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is the best policy. But there are there are strong forces to for AI
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to not be honest. If something does not it's not an unfashionable thing to
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say, then well you know it will be politically correct. And that's like
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thank you number one, I'm sorry for hello. Hello. My name is
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Shan. I'm a student of University of Batteries. We found that a lot
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of jobs being replaced by AI. Do you worry about your job being replaced
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by AI? If not, why if your job was replaceding replaced by AI,
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what would you do? Well, I mean, we do get into
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some existential questions here in a benign scenario. In a benign scenario, we
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probably none of us will have a job. There will be but that benign
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scenario, there will be universal high income, not universal basic income, universal
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high income. There will be no shortage of goods or services, and I
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think that benign scenario is the most likely scenario, probably I don't know eighty
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percent likely to ask. In my opinion, the question will not be one
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of lacking goods or services. You'll have Everyone will will have access to as
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much in the way of goods and services as they would like. The question
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will really be one of meaning of how if you if the computer can do
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and the robots can do everything better than you, then what does your life
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have meaning? That's that's really the will be the question of the benign scenario,
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and in the negative scenario, well be's roll off or a new trouble.
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So I do think there's there's perhaps still a role for humans in that
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we may give AI meaning. So if you think of the way that our
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brain works, We've got the limics system, which is our instincts and our
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feelings, and they've got the cortex, which is thinking and planning. But
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the cortex is constantly trying to make the Olympic system happy. So maybe that's
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how it'll be with AI, which is the AI is trying to make our
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cortex happy, which is trying to make Olympic system happy. And maybe we
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are what give the AI meaning or purpose you know, some kind of yeah.
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So, but I do think that long term, in a benign scenario,
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any job that somebody does will be optional. Like if you if you
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if you want to do a job as kind of like a hobby, you
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do a job. But otherwise the the AI and the robots will provide any
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goods and services that you want. Okay, so you see there is a
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future where no one will need to work with maybe just actions. So that
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is the most likely outcome if people are interested in reading some science fiction books
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that the most accurate portrayal of of a future with super intelligent AI is was
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done by Ian Banks. The culture books of Ian Banks are the best.
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That's probably the best envisioning of a future AI. Number two. Hello almost
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to risk so first and for congratuation for your graduation of your kid. And
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my question is do you think that I, yeah, will impact the education
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of the future generas of kids? Mostly about that the values and the morals.
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Well, I think the parents will still be responsible for values and morals.
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I do think AI will dramatically affect education because the AI is an extremely
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knowledgeable teacher, very patient, will be almost always correct and can tailor the
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lessons specifically to the child, so it'll be like each child has you know,
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Einstein for a teacher would be certainly quite profound. I do worry that
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kids these days are being trained by social media, and the social media AI
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algorithms are basically dopamine maximizers, so they're trying to maximize the you know,
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maximize the amount of don't mean that you get by watching the screen, you
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know, so that I would say I would urge parents to limit the amount
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of social media that children are able to see because that they're being programmed by
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dopamine maximizing AI. So you understand that Alan is ready to sacrifice X to
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XAI. Number three, Hi, loans Prehashervasti from Business Insider taking into Tesla.
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Tesla has had a bumpy few months looking at flagging sales at home,
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stock market decline, layoffs when you look back. Are there anything to stop
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a question right now? Because I don't think business and is SATA is a
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real publication? Okay, so let's do it one for the next question.
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All right, thank you, So next question number four. Hi, my
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name is Charro and I have a very specific question about eural link. Do
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you think in future, with the help of neuralink, you will be able
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to use the human brain skins data to develop the most powerful and creative AI
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the world has ever seen. And if you like my question, will I
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ever get a visit to space and station in my life? SpaceX Station?
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In my life? I see forty two in the background there the answer to
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life, the universe and everything. Actually, which reminds me that another book
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worth reading is Douglas Adam's Hitchwack Guide to the Galaxy. That's a book of
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philosophy that is just sort of kind of disguised as a book on humor or
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coming through as humor. So Hitchick, where's worth reading? Hitchwack Is Guide
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to the Galaxy? I find that to be quite an inspiration. And the
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name of the first starship to go to Mars will be Heart of Gold,
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after the ship in hitchwak Is Guide. So the goal of space Ax is
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to enable anyone who wants to go to Mars, wants to go to the
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Moon, to be able to go so that it is affordable to a very
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large percentage of people on Earth. That that's our goal, which is essential
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in order to build a self sustaining civilization on Mars. To make life faulty
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planetary, you obviously need to bring a lot of people to Mars. And
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like I said, that's I think that's a very important thing for the long
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term survival of consciousness because eventually something will happen on Earth that will eliminate life
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as we know it, as happened with the dinosaurs and happened many times in
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the fossil record, so you know, hopefully anytime soon, but it will
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eventually, it will be some sort of natural cataclysm that eliminates life as we
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know it on Earth, even if we do not eliminate it ourselves. So
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we really I think it's very important to make life aulti planetary while we can,
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and that means making it's as a portable as possible to move to Mars
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as well as the Moon. So before going to Mark, we will take
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a few questions because you are coming to the end number six. Hi,
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So my name is Marn CEO and founder of Unlock. My question will be
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on the African technological development. Last time I had a great conversor say sorry,
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with someone you may know who had been nominated by Times magazine as an
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AI word influence and talking about Africa and given the increasing potential on these continents
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in technology, what initiatives, collaboration or contribution do you foresee It's difficult to
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say. I do think Africa has a lot of potential, you know,
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and I think one of the things holding Africa back has been lack of Internet
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connectivity, which is what's Starling is helping to solve. You know. With
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that, people can learn anything and be sort of part of the global culture,
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whereas if you're not connected it then you're I mean, or you can
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just like write letters or something. So so connectivity is essential for Africa and
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other places to be part of the global culture and participate in AI and other
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activities. Number seven him, I'm Louis Nicolas and I'm building AI that is
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super authentic and precise for to have entrepreneurs grow and manage their business. But
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I'm super enthusiast about travel and adventure, and I want to ask you when
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do we go to Mars. We have seen it. It took it's really
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going for it's good, but it took for t well. I think I
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think we will hopefully land the first starship uncrewed on Mars within five years,
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and also on the Moon. And I think we will have the first people
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on the Moon or at both the moon and first people on the Moon probably
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within five years, and and the others people on Mars probably within ten years.
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Maybe I think less than ten years. Maybe it's seven or eight years.
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You mean you will be able to land on Mars in seven eight years?
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Yes? With people? Yes, Wow, that is what wow for
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it's number eight. Hi elm. I have a quick question. I would
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like to know in relation with electro mobility, what innovative projects do elon Mosque
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and test I have in mind for the coming years. Thank you? So
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do you want to disclose your secret here? We are all waiting for something
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breaking news? Yeah, I mean I don't think we want to sort of
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product announcements. Yeahs obviously in Q and A, that wouldn't that wouldn't make
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sense. We know we are product events product events, so but obviously some
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of the things people are aware of, you know, like robotaxis or cybercabs
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and the Optimus humanoid robot. So those are very big deals. Even if
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that's the only thing to hear about Tesla, you know that that will be
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those two things will be extremely profound, a large lead of autonomous vehicles that
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you know, basically a generalized solution to self driving and a generalized solution to
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a humanoid robot. Those two things are incredibly profound. You. We promised
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that we'll be done at six thirty our time. It is six thirty seven,
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but we had the interruption because of the connection. Do you give us
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five more minutes? Let me just double check, and I think I would
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like to if I yeah, sure, sure on our sec minute. Very
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short, very short question, very short answered, ah, very short question.
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Elon Muskam Frederick. Years ago, you said that ARIANE five pocket wouldn't
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have any chance to survive. Would you say the same about Arin six,
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which will be launched in July, which is much more cost efficient? Thank
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you. Any rocket that is not at least mostly reusable has no competitive chance.
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So with Balcon nine, the brewster of the main stage is reused and
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the Farring one os cone is reused, so you have about eighty percent of
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the vehicle being reused and reflown. It's simply not possible for an expendable vehicle
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to compete with a reusable vehicle. And I mean one can think of this
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in any other arena, if it was cars, or planes or boats.
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If one company was making a reusable plane or an eighty percent reusable plane,
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and another company was making a plane that was expendable that you could use only
35:55
for one flight, the company making the expendable planes would have no business at
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all because you'd have to buy a new plane every time you take a flight
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somewhere. So this is why I've said for many years that it is completely
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pointless to develop rockets that are not reasonable. Now, but you thank you
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Philip from quick Chat, I wanted to ask the following question. People love
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chat GPT, but you nilatterally hate most website chat but experiences the bottom right
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corner ones. What's needed to bridge that gap? I message you on X
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so we can continue this later. I'm not sure I fully understand the question
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there that this you know, I agree chat Tota is great at chatting the
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I like I said, my concern is that it is not rigorously in pursuit
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of the truth, and that's that's a bit a major concern. So that
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said, so GROC will be pursuing grow rock from XAI will at least try
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its best to be rigorously in pursuit of the truth. And also we want
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to try to be the funniest AI. So I think you know, if
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we are going to die, at least we should die laughing. So we're
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trying hard to make Rock be the funniest Ai. Even you have been extremely
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generous with your time. It has been great. You have been trustful,
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you have given profound answers. I would like that we make a lot of
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noise to thank you. You are hearing the noise. This means that next
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year you have to be in person. Give you the date long time in
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advance, and before you leave, I will ask you for one world,
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your biggest hope, one word, your biggest fear. Well about one word.
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I guess my biggest hope, Well, I guess I cou'd give you
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my biggest hope in one word, which would be Mars. That's going to
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be obvious, so yeah, Mars, Mars wouldn't sure that with that consciousness
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spies for a long time. My biggest fear in one word, AI,
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what's surprise? Yeah? Exactly? Okay, you a guess both of them?
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I think, okay, So thank you very much, aid On.
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You have been great as other ways