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- 0:02Speaker 1: Three words used to scare me. I don't know. Not
- 0:08Speaker 1: necessarily because I didn't know the answer, but because I
- 0:13Speaker 1: didn't know what would happen after I admitted it. Would
- 0:17Speaker 1: someone help me? Would they get angry? Would they think
- 0:23Speaker 1: less of me? Or worse, would I think less of myself?
- 0:30Speaker 1: For years, I thought saying, I don't know, said something
- 0:34Speaker 1: about who I was. It took me a long time
- 0:38Speaker 1: to realize that it didn't. Welcome to The Person Behind
- 0:58Speaker 1: the Position. And I'm Michael Chisholm. And today I want
- 1:02Speaker 1: to talk about something that has taken me a long
- 1:05Speaker 1: time to become comfortable saying. I don't know. The words
- 1:12Speaker 1: I don't know have been a double-edged sword for me.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Those words have been both a blessing and a curse.
- 1:20Speaker 1: There were times when I said I don't know and
- 1:22Speaker 1: received help. There were times when I said I don't
- 1:26Speaker 1: know and got hurt. There were times when I said,
- 1:30Speaker 1: I don't know, and got scolded. And there were times
- 1:35Speaker 1: when I said, I don't know, because I really just
- 1:38Speaker 1: didn't know. But after a while, those three words became
- 1:44Speaker 1: filled with so much more than not having an answer.
- 1:50Speaker 1: They became connected to what might happen after I said them.
- 1:57Speaker 1: because I didn't know what the response was going to be.
- 2:01Speaker 1: And when you've had different responses to admitting that you
- 2:05Speaker 1: don't know, eventually you start trying to figure out the
- 2:11Speaker 1: safest ways to handle not knowing. At least I did.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Sometimes when I didn't know, I kept quiet. Sometimes I
- 2:23Speaker 1: secretly asked someone outside of the situation, Sometimes I got
- 2:30Speaker 1: mad because I didn't know. Sometimes I was afraid I
- 2:34Speaker 1: would get in trouble for not knowing. And depending on
- 2:38Speaker 1: the circumstances, my response to not knowing changed. Think about that.
- 2:46Speaker 1: The issue wasn't always that I didn't know something. Sometimes
- 2:51Speaker 1: the bigger issue was that I didn't feel safe admitting
- 2:56Speaker 1: that I didn't know. And I wonder how many other
- 3:00Speaker 1: people have experienced that. We live in a world that
- 3:05Speaker 1: places a lot of value on knowing. Think about it.
- 3:10Speaker 1: From the time we're children, somebody is asking us questions
- 3:15Speaker 1: and expecting us to know the answer. You go to school.
- 3:21Speaker 1: The teacher asks a question. You either know it or
- 3:25Speaker 1: you don't. You take a test. You either know the
- 3:30Speaker 1: answer or you don't. Then we get older and move
- 3:34Speaker 1: into our careers. And the expectations become greater. Because now,
- 3:40Speaker 1: depending on the position you hold, people expect you to know.
- 3:45Speaker 1: You're the manager. You should know. You're in HR. You
- 3:49Speaker 1: should know. You're the professor. You should know. You're the pastor.
- 3:52Speaker 1: You should know. You're the parent. You should know. You're
- 3:58Speaker 1: the person with the experience. You're the person with the degree.
- 4:02Speaker 1: You're the person with the title. You're the one people
- 4:06Speaker 1: come to for answers. So you should know. But what
- 4:13Speaker 1: happens when you don't? That's where this became personal for
- 4:20Speaker 1: me because I used to be scared of the words
- 4:22Speaker 1: I don't know. I used to feel like I let
- 4:26Speaker 1: people down if I didn't know. Sometimes I thought less
- 4:30Speaker 1: of myself. Sometimes I felt like I didn't measure up
- 4:33Speaker 1: to my counterparts or my colleagues because I would look
- 4:36Speaker 1: around and it seemed like everybody else knew what they
- 4:41Speaker 1: were doing. Everybody else seemed to have the answer. Everybody
- 4:47Speaker 1: else seemed confident. And here I was thinking, why don't
- 4:51Speaker 1: I know? Maybe I should know this. Maybe something is
- 4:56Speaker 1: wrong with me because I don't know. Here's something I've
- 5:01Speaker 1: learned over the years. Sometimes the people we think know
- 5:08Speaker 1: everything don't. They've just gotten really good at looking like
- 5:14Speaker 1: they do. Some of us have gotten really good at
- 5:20Speaker 1: doing the same thing. We learn how to hide what
- 5:25Speaker 1: we don't know. We learn how to nod our heads.
- 5:29Speaker 1: We learn how to sit in a meeting and hope
- 5:33Speaker 1: no one asks us a question. We learn how to
- 5:38Speaker 1: go back to our office and Google it. We learn
- 5:43Speaker 1: who we can secretly call. We learn who it's safe
- 5:46Speaker 1: to ask. And sometimes we even learn how to avoid
- 5:51Speaker 1: situations where somebody might discover that we don't know. Because
- 5:58Speaker 1: I don't know doesn't feel like an answer anymore. It
- 6:02Speaker 1: feels like an admission. An admission that maybe I'm not
- 6:09Speaker 1: as good as they thought I was. For years, I
- 6:16Speaker 1: thought that I don't know meant something about who I was.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Not just because of what other people thought about me.
- 6:27Speaker 1: But because of what I thought about myself. And that's different.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Because now we're not talking about knowledge anymore. We're talking
- 6:37Speaker 1: about identity. If I don't know something, does that mean
- 6:41Speaker 1: I'm not intelligent? If I don't know something, does that
- 6:45Speaker 1: mean I'm not qualified? If I don't know something, does
- 6:48Speaker 1: that mean I shouldn't have this position? If I don't
- 6:52Speaker 1: know something, does that mean somebody else is better than me?
- 6:57Speaker 1: If I don't know something, does that mean I don't
- 6:59Speaker 1: belong in the room? Those are very different questions than
- 7:04Speaker 1: simply saying, I don't know. Somewhere along the way, something
- 7:09Speaker 1: dawned on me. It sounds simple now, but it wasn't
- 7:15Speaker 1: simple for me then. And that is, it's okay to say,
- 7:20Speaker 1: I don't know. It's okay to not know something. I
- 7:24Speaker 1: don't have to know everything. Once I really started accepting that,
- 7:29Speaker 1: something changed. I was no longer stuck with what I
- 7:33Speaker 1: thought were the consequences of not knowing. I stopped caring
- 7:38Speaker 1: as much about what people might think. I started owning
- 7:42Speaker 1: the fact that I didn't know something. Instead of beating
- 7:46Speaker 1: myself up about it, I started trying to find the answer.
- 7:52Speaker 1: I didn't have to feel guilty for not knowing. I
- 7:54Speaker 1: didn't have to I didn't have to immediately start thinking
- 7:58Speaker 1: about what could have happened because somebody discovered that I
- 8:02Speaker 1: didn't know something. I could hold my head up and say,
- 8:06Speaker 1: I don't know, and be okay. But here's what really
- 8:12Speaker 1: changed things for me. I learned that I don't know
- 8:16Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the end of the sentence. I
- 8:19Speaker 1: could say I don't know, but I'll find out. Or
- 8:24Speaker 1: I don't know, but let's figure it out together. That's different.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Because I don't know acknowledges where I am. I'll find
- 8:33Speaker 1: out acknowledges that I don't have to stay there. And
- 8:37Speaker 1: let's figure it out together acknowledges that I don't have
- 8:40Speaker 1: to figure everything out by myself. And that was totally
- 8:46Speaker 1: freeing for me. Because I've accepted the reality that I
- 8:50Speaker 1: don't know everything and I don't have to. Now, I'm
- 8:55Speaker 1: not going to sit here and tell you all of
- 8:57Speaker 1: those feelings never come back. They do. Every now and again,
- 9:01Speaker 1: something happens and that little voice comes back. You should
- 9:05Speaker 1: know this. Why don't you know this? What are they
- 9:09Speaker 1: going to think when they find out? I don't know.
- 9:14Speaker 1: The difference now is I don't get stuck there anymore.
- 9:18Speaker 1: I don't get stuck at I don't know. Because now
- 9:22Speaker 1: I understand that there's usually a way to figure it out.
- 9:27Speaker 1: I may not know, but somebody does. Maybe I need
- 9:31Speaker 1: to ask somebody. Maybe I need to look it up.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Maybe I need to read. Maybe I need to do
- 9:37Speaker 1: some research. Maybe I need to make a phone call.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Maybe I need to admit that somebody else in the
- 9:43Speaker 1: room knows more about this than I do. And that
- 9:48Speaker 1: is okay. And that brings me back to the position.
- 9:56Speaker 1: What happens when we're in positions where people expect us
- 9:59Speaker 1: to know? Because nobody knows everything about their position. Nobody. Nobody.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Don't care how long you've been doing it. Just when
- 10:12Speaker 1: you think you've got it, something else gets introduced. Some
- 10:15Speaker 1: new policies, some new technologies, some new symptom, some new theology,
- 10:21Speaker 1: some new employee situation, some new regulation, some new problem,
- 10:26Speaker 1: some new question that nobody has ever asked you before.
- 10:29Speaker 1: And there you are, the person with the title, the
- 10:32Speaker 1: person with the experience, the person everybody expects to have
- 10:37Speaker 1: the answer and you don't know. That's okay. The position
- 10:44Speaker 1: doesn't make you all-knowing. The degree doesn't make you all-knowing.
- 10:47Speaker 1: The title doesn't make you all-knowing. Experience doesn't make you all-knowing.
- 10:51Speaker 1: And pretending to know something that you don't doesn't make
- 10:55Speaker 1: you more qualified. It just makes you somebody pretending to know.
- 11:02Speaker 1: And sometimes saying I don't know may actually be the
- 11:06Speaker 1: most responsible answer you can give. But I think there's
- 11:13Speaker 1: another side of this that we don't talk about enough.
- 11:17Speaker 1: What kind of environment are we creating for the people
- 11:20Speaker 1: around us when they don't know? Because I know what
- 11:25Speaker 1: it feels like to be afraid to say it. So
- 11:29Speaker 1: now I ask myself, do people feel safe saying I
- 11:33Speaker 1: don't know around me? And that's yet a different question.
- 11:40Speaker 1: If somebody comes to me and says, Michael, I don't
- 11:42Speaker 1: know how to do this. What's my response? Do I
- 11:47Speaker 1: make them feel small? Do I embarrass them? Do I
- 11:50Speaker 1: immediately ask them why they don't know? Do I make
- 11:55Speaker 1: them regret asking me? Or do I help them figure
- 11:59Speaker 1: it out? Because maybe some of us became afraid to say,
- 12:04Speaker 1: I don't know. Because somebody taught us to be afraid.
- 12:10Speaker 1: And if that's true, we have an opportunity to make
- 12:13Speaker 1: sure we don't teach somebody else the same lesson. That's
- 12:18Speaker 1: something I've had to think about. Because once you've been
- 12:22Speaker 1: the person who was afraid to ask, you have a
- 12:27Speaker 1: choice when you become the person being asked. And I'm
- 12:33Speaker 1: learning something else. Sometimes I don't know is actually the
- 12:37Speaker 1: beginning of something. Because if I already know everything, what
- 12:42Speaker 1: is there left for me to learn? But when I
- 12:47Speaker 1: can admit that I don't know, I've created room. Room
- 12:50Speaker 1: to ask. Room to listen. Room for somebody else to
- 12:54Speaker 1: teach me. Room to change my mind. Room to discover something.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Room to grow. Maybe I don't know isn't always a weakness.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Maybe sometimes it's an opening. For years, I thought I
- 13:11Speaker 1: don't know meant something about who I was. Now, if
- 13:17Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. And that's okay. Because
- 13:23Speaker 1: it gives me room to figure it out. I don't
- 13:24Speaker 1: have to feel ashamed. I don't have to question my worth.
- 13:28Speaker 1: I don't have to compare myself to everybody else in
- 13:31Speaker 1: the room. I don't have to pretend. And I don't
- 13:33Speaker 1: have to know everything just because of the position I hold.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Because behind the position, I'm still a person. A person
- 13:43Speaker 1: who knows some things. A person who doesn't know some things.
- 13:46Speaker 1: A person who has learned a whole lot. And a
- 13:49Speaker 1: person who still has a whole lot left to learn.
- 13:55Speaker 1: And I'm finally becoming okay with that. So maybe there's
- 13:59Speaker 1: someone listening today who has been afraid to say those
- 14:03Speaker 1: three words. Maybe you've been sitting in meetings pretending. Maybe
- 14:09Speaker 1: you've been afraid somebody would discover that you don't have
- 14:12Speaker 1: all the answers. Maybe you've been comparing yourself to your colleagues.
- 14:18Speaker 1: Maybe you've been wondering whether you really belong in the
- 14:22Speaker 1: position you're in. Maybe you've been thinking less of yourself
- 14:26Speaker 1: because there's something you don't know. So I want to
- 14:31Speaker 1: leave you with this. Not knowing something doesn't tell the
- 14:36Speaker 1: whole story of who you are. You don't know? Okay.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Now what? Ask the question. Find the person. Read the book.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Do the research. Get the help. Learn the lesson. Figure
- 14:52Speaker 1: it out. And if someone asks you something tomorrow and
- 14:56Speaker 1: you don't know the answer, hold your head up, stick
- 15:00Speaker 1: your chest out, and say, I don't know. And if
- 15:04Speaker 1: you can find the answer, tell them, but I'll find out.
- 15:09Speaker 1: And if neither one of you knows, you can say,
- 15:12Speaker 1: let's just figure it out together. And there's no shame
- 15:16Speaker 1: in that. Because that person behind the position doesn't have
- 15:21Speaker 1: to know everything. The person behind the position just has
- 15:25Speaker 1: to be willing to keep becoming. I'm Michael Chisholm. And
- 15:34Speaker 1: I'll leave you with a question that sits at the
- 15:36Speaker 1: center of every episode. Who are you behind the position?
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