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Alan Dershowitz | Lawyer & Former Law Professor | 06-16-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz is the greatest living attorney and uh maybe
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  Speaker 1: the greatest attorney living or not living of all time.
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  Speaker 1: And I love the guy, and he is joining us
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  Speaker 1: on this Tuesday morning before I get to all this
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  Speaker 1: stuff that's bothering me today, and there's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Alan.
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  Speaker 1: Usually I'm a pretty jovial guy, as you know, you
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  Speaker 1: love coming on this show. But I'm pissed off about
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff today. But you at one point, Dershowitz,
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  Speaker 1: for people that don't know, you were a damn good
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  Speaker 1: basketball player, and I got I gotta think you been
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  Speaker 1: a Nick fan your whole life.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Nick fan, my whole life. I actually played in
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  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden in a preliminary game before Nick Syracuse
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  Speaker 2: Nationals and shared a locker with Dolph Shay's and guarded
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  Speaker 2: oh what's his name, the famous Loreen, Ralph Ralph Lareen.
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  Speaker 2: His name was Ralphie Lipschitz. At the time, he played
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  Speaker 2: for Uptown t Helmutical Academy. I played for Brooklyn Tewmutical
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  Speaker 2: Academy and we played in Madison Square Garden. We played
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  Speaker 2: in the Yeshiva Championship game before a Nick Syracuse Nationals
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  Speaker 2: game starving and nick fan since Harry Gallatin, Sweetwater, Clifton,
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  Speaker 2: Carl Brawn. You know, the good old days of one
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  Speaker 2: on one basketball, zone defense outlawed no three second rule.
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  Speaker 2: You know, man to man very tough. So I was
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  Speaker 2: watching the game very carefully, and you know, Bronson is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: He's you know. I also, as I was in Boston,
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  Speaker 2: I went to a lot of Celtics games and got
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  Speaker 2: to know Larry Bird. Bronson is the closest thing I've
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  Speaker 2: seen to Larry Bird, with his move his strengths, his
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  Speaker 2: unbelievable talent to get to that basket no matter who's
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  Speaker 2: blocking them. It was a great series, even though too short.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, it was short, and it was great. And now
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  Speaker 1: Thursday there's going to be a parade here in this city,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, a while and we all and I
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  Speaker 1: know thousands and thousands and thousands celebrated peacefully. It kind
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  Speaker 1: of sound like Trump on January sixth, but a few
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  Speaker 1: rotten apples can certainly ruin it. And we looked like
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  Speaker 1: la We looked like Detroit. It was terrible. And I
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  Speaker 1: will also tell you that the media hit a lot
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  Speaker 1: of stuff that it was worse than they even said,
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  Speaker 1: police cars, more damages, more cops got hit than they reported,
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  Speaker 1: more fires. It was bad. And you know the idea
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  Speaker 1: of putting three and a half million people in Lower
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan on Thursday. Yes, during the parade, it'll be that
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  Speaker 1: little perimeter, there'll be plenty of cops there. But once
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  Speaker 1: that thing disperses later in the day, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be Manhattan. I mean, we have proven the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks that we really can't behave. It was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: No, well, and I think it's gonna get worse. I
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  Speaker 2: think to move to the next subject. I think that
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  Speaker 2: the kind of terrorist plots we saw yesterday the day
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  Speaker 2: before against President Trump, against his birthday, I think we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna see more of those as Iran gets more and
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  Speaker 2: more money under this deal to give to its terrorist surrogates.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't get why Iran is getting more money
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  Speaker 2: to do to America, to Israel, to Europe. What has
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  Speaker 2: already done so much of What is it going to
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  Speaker 2: use its money for to feed its people? No, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to use its money to arm Hazbolah. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to use its money to create new cells in the
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  Speaker 2: United States, new terrorism in Lebanon. I just think we're
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  Speaker 2: going to see more terrorism as the result of it,
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  Speaker 2: depending on what the deal really is. We don't know
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  Speaker 2: the deal. All we know is there is a memorandum
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  Speaker 2: of understanding. I hope it applies as well to money
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  Speaker 2: not being used to subsidize terrorist groups around the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but how are we going to stop that? You
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent right? The deal stinks. What we know
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  Speaker 1: about the deal stinks, But we don't know about the
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  Speaker 1: deal stinks. It's Obama's deal all over it again. And
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  Speaker 1: they keep and what Michael told me this morning was
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  Speaker 1: that they don't get money unless they release the uranium.
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  Speaker 1: They call it the dust. Now do you think that
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  Speaker 1: the Iranians, even with the promise of money, are going
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  Speaker 1: to voluntarity? You're telling me that we have a deal
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  Speaker 1: that will only go through if Iran gives up something,
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  Speaker 1: not us. How dumb do I look?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know Iran will give up something. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to have to have kind of cosmetic approaches to the deal.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to give some dust back. But you know
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  Speaker 2: there are other places underground. While it was speaking now,
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  Speaker 2: they are still developing a nuclear capacity. They even the
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  Speaker 2: anti Trump people are saying now they have a greater
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  Speaker 2: incentive to develop a nuclear weapon than they ever had before.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I think that the only country is
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  Speaker 2: going to stop them from doing it is Israel, and
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  Speaker 2: I hope the United States doesn't stop Israel from defending
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  Speaker 2: itself against Asbalaan against the If you're on dares to
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  Speaker 2: attack Israel, I would hope that Israel would respond without
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  Speaker 2: calling Donald Trump, would do what previous Prime ministers Bagan
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  Speaker 2: did and Olmeerk did and said to America, Look, we
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  Speaker 2: appreciate your support, but you know, we are a country
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  Speaker 2: that has to defend our own people. You have to
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  Speaker 2: defend your people. We have to defend our people, So
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  Speaker 2: we have to make our own decisions about how to
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  Speaker 2: respond to threats to our people. I hope that will
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  Speaker 2: be Israel's approach, he said yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, has you know look, I mean, look, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love Trump more than anybody. Okay, but I'm disappointed.
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  Speaker 1: I am, and you know, keep being told by all
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  Speaker 1: of his sick events and I'm one of them. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: said you got to understand he's playing chess. Listen to me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm tired of hearing that I don't like the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he comes out and he says all these wonderful
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  Speaker 1: things about Mom Donnie. It hasn't worked. New York has
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  Speaker 1: gotten worse. Okay, it's not like, well, look with Trumpet
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  Speaker 1: t because you called mom Donnie nice. It doesn't work.
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  Speaker 1: He calls Mom Donnie nice things. He says nice things
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  Speaker 1: about Erdawan, he says nice things at the g seventh
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  Speaker 1: summit this morning about the Iranian leadership these days. But
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  Speaker 1: BB's an asshole, BB's difficult, BB's a bad guy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting tired of that. Alan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yeah, no, so am I. I remember chess
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  Speaker 2: was invented by the Iranians. And the only solution to
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  Speaker 2: this thing is shah mess check mate. That's an Iranian term.
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  Speaker 2: The leader has to die, the heads of the other side,
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  Speaker 2: the heads of Iran have to be destroyed. The regime
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  Speaker 2: has to be destroyed. They will never be piece in
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East. With the mulahs in charge, with the
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  Speaker 2: Iranian guard in charge, all we're getting is what kick road.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, whoever the next president is is going
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  Speaker 2: to have this problem in Spain over and over and
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  Speaker 2: over again. And so we had a chance to destroy Iran.
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  Speaker 2: Two more weeks, three more weeks of intense military action
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  Speaker 2: might have done it. Yeah, it would be a great
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  Speaker 2: cost and a great risk. But so is this deal.
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  Speaker 2: At great cost and a great risk. Giving billions of
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  Speaker 2: dollars to a regime that we know never spends a
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  Speaker 2: nickel on its own people, only spends money on exporting
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  Speaker 2: terrorism is not a good deal. So I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 2: when we see the memorium of understanding, it'll be better.
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  Speaker 2: When we have the sixty days of negotiation, it'll be better.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that people like you and me putting
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of counter pressure on a president who
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  Speaker 2: we support may make him get tougher and during the
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  Speaker 2: negotiating period make sure that this money doesn't go to
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  Speaker 2: be able to be spent on his belah and terrorists
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  Speaker 2: like the kind that attacked the White House the other
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  Speaker 2: day wanted to attack the White House the other day.
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  Speaker 2: That's our future.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he may get mad too, I mean to make
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  Speaker 1: it end up getting mad at me and you and
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  Speaker 1: Mark Levin. Mak Levin has also said a couple of
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  Speaker 1: things on his show, which is he certainly has and
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  Speaker 1: he loves to and they love each other, and Levin
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  Speaker 1: just like Trump loves me and loves you. So listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to Israel Thursday morning. Okay, I'm leaving, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. I am. I have the opportunity again to
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  Speaker 1: speak at this amazing JNS International Policy Summit. BB and
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  Speaker 1: Huckabee speak Sunday night. They opened the program, but the
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  Speaker 1: three day program every year, and I'm in the last block,
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  Speaker 1: me and Mark Levin. We close out this amazing thing.
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  Speaker 1: Will It's at the beautiful Waldorf his story in Jerusalem.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm on the way and I am talking to
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  Speaker 1: Israelis every day. They love me there, okay, and not
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  Speaker 1: that long ago. President Trump his approval rating in Israel
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  Speaker 1: much higher than Babe was like ninety nine percent. And
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  Speaker 1: I am telling you talking to multiple, not one, not two,
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  Speaker 1: more like ten or twenty Israelis every day. They are furious.
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  Speaker 1: They really believe that President Trump is playing a game
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  Speaker 1: with them again, constantly berating BB and allowing Iran somewhere
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  Speaker 1: down the road to get though even though we're lying too,
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  Speaker 1: because I know for a fact there are Arab nations
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  Speaker 1: that have already paid Irun. They've already paid them to
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  Speaker 1: help with their ships and all that we knew about it,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't stop it. So the Israelties, I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 1: Allen are really pissed off.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I understand that I have one hope. I report
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  Speaker 2: that one of the biggest critics of the deal is
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  Speaker 2: Mark Rubio inside the White House, and he is not
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  Speaker 2: happy with the deal. And Mark Rubio is the smartest
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  Speaker 2: guy in the cabinet and as far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely brilliant and my nominee for the next president.
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  Speaker 2: I hope Mark Rubio would have influence on the President
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  Speaker 2: over the next sixty days to make sure whatever deal
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  Speaker 2: ultimate deal is distinguished from the Memorandum of Understanding emerges,
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  Speaker 2: is a much much, much tougher deal because this deal,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Barack Obama, who did the worst deal possible yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: said this deal is worse. I don't believe anything Obama says,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, if he says this deal is even worse,
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  Speaker 2: you got to at least look at it and see,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen the deal. You haven't seen the deal.
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  Speaker 2: Obama hasn't seen the deal. Let's keep an open mind,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, we know that the Democrats are much worse,
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  Speaker 2: and let's hope that Rubio and others in you and
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  Speaker 2: Mark and others can influence the President in the direction
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  Speaker 2: of being tougher and understanding that the Iranians are the
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  Speaker 2: Nazis of today. They are the Hitlers, the Gebels, and
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  Speaker 2: the Garrys of today. If they had the opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: murder six million Jews, they would, If they had the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to destroy America, they would. We didn't negotiate with
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  Speaker 2: Great Britain. Hippolo wanted to negotiate with Churchill. Churchill said,
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  Speaker 2: you don't negotiate with people like Hitler, you destroy them.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what Trump ought to be doing. He ought
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  Speaker 2: to be Churchillian, He ought to be following church and
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  Speaker 2: Churchill was out numbered and outgunned. The United States is
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  Speaker 2: not out numbered and outgun We have the opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: do this all our Churchill, instead of doing it all
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  Speaker 2: our Chamberlain, which is what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: So in the past I disagreed with people, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't alan necessarily want to physically haunt them. But I
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  Speaker 1: tweeted this morning, and I've set it on the air
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  Speaker 1: ten times today, and we'll say it to you again.
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  Speaker 1: At the risk of getting into a lot of trouble.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't care. Every time I see brad Lander,
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  Speaker 1: I want to punch him across the face.
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  Speaker 2: Is that bad look? I'll defend you if you do.
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  Speaker 2: And he is one of the most despicable human beings. Look,
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  Speaker 2: the problem we have in America are the brad Landers
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  Speaker 2: of the world, the Jews who hate themselves because they're Jewish.
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  Speaker 2: We had that before. Thousands of Jews voted for Nazi Germany,
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  Speaker 2: voted for Hitler and then ended up in the camps.
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  Speaker 2: Brad Lander is a self aiding bigot, and he's not
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  Speaker 2: the only one. Look at what's going on in New York.
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  Speaker 2: We have at least two congressional districts, one where you
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  Speaker 2: have Jews running against each other, and each one trying
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  Speaker 2: to persuade the voters that they're more pro more anti
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  Speaker 2: Israel than the other used to be the opposite. You
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  Speaker 2: have that in the Goldman race, So you have that
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  Speaker 2: in the Kennedy Schlosburg race, you have that in the Bronx.
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  Speaker 2: They're all We're going to get three members of Congress
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  Speaker 2: from New York City who are anti Israel unless things change,
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  Speaker 2: and and and they'll be Jewish, some of them, and
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  Speaker 2: so it's it's the self aiding anti Israel, anti Jewish
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  Speaker 2: Jews that are giving cover to the non Jewish haters.
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  Speaker 2: And that's been a real, real problem. And Lander is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely the worst. And anybody who votes for Lander, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whether you're Jewish or not Jewish, you're not voting for America.
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  Speaker 2: You're not voting for peace, you're not voting for justice.
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  Speaker 2: You're voting for bigotry. You're voting you're voting for a
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  Speaker 2: modern version of the Ku Klux Klan directed against Israel
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  Speaker 2: and against Judism, men against Jews. So you know you're
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  Speaker 2: if you punch Lander, I'm not in favor of punching,
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  Speaker 2: but if you do it, call me. I'll be your lawyer. Provono.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is fantastic, What a great morning.
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  Speaker 1: Don't punch him though, No, I'm probably not gonna punch him.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna pull the treats about him. We have to
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  Speaker 2: say about Brad Landers. We'll stop telling the truth about
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  Speaker 2: you if you stop lying about us. Love that, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: No, he's gonna win by a landslide too. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like Daniel Goldman either. I'm not a big fan of
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  Speaker 1: his either but either me either.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, uh, you know, he's been a decent,
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  Speaker 2: decent centerist Democratic congressman. But you know, Lander is horrible. Landers,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely Lander is the reason I left the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the new symbol of the Democratic Party should
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  Speaker 2: be Lander holding the the tattoo that Platner was wearing.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's happening to the Democrats. And I can't be
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  Speaker 2: a Democrat. And I have a book coming out called
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  Speaker 2: Why Democrats and so should you. It'll be out in
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  Speaker 2: about a month, in time for the election.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait till that. Yeah, it's gonna be great.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, why Sagan? Why I can't be the Democrats?
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  Speaker 2: Sit again? Why I quit the Democrats and so should you?
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  Speaker 1: There you go, Why I quit the Democrats and so
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  Speaker 1: should you? Okay, on the way out to be remiss,
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  Speaker 1: I love you, you know much. I love you. But
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  Speaker 1: let me just bring this ridiculous to line. Ninth day up,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna speak, They're gonna grill you on the hill.
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  Speaker 1: I guess about this as I volunteered.
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  Speaker 2: I volunteered. I was on greta ancestor and so over
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  Speaker 2: and over again, challenging comer saying, why don't you call me?
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  Speaker 2: I know the truth. It's more complicated. I can tell
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  Speaker 2: you what happened. I was with Epstein between nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 2: six two thousand and five. Then it became his lawyer
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  Speaker 2: between two thousand and five two thousand and eight, and
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  Speaker 2: I terminated my relationship with him completely. So I can't
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  Speaker 2: tell you much after two thousand and eight, but I volunteered.
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  Speaker 2: I want to testify truthfully. I want to tell the truth,
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  Speaker 2: the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna let congressmen cut me off. If they try
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  Speaker 2: to cut me off, my answer be no. I took
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  Speaker 2: the notes to tell the whole truth, not a partial truth.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know. Maybe you can't handle the truth,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to tell the whole truth. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to my testimony. So this is not something
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  Speaker 2: that they imposed on me or invited me. I asked
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  Speaker 2: to do it, and finally they agreed.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. Good for you get the truth out there. Alan,
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  Speaker 1: what you do every day at least on this show.
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  Speaker 1: You're so magnificent. I love you so another great one today,
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  Speaker 1: and when the book comes out, we're going to promote
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  Speaker 1: it every day. Alan Dershowitz, You're the best. I love you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, pal, You're the best. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: God bless you. Alan Dershowitz right there. I love that guy,
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  Speaker 1: I really do. Great attorneys, tremendous on radio TV, and
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  Speaker 1: a great author too.
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