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Segregated Funds Explained: What Does That Guarantee Really Cost? | Canadian Investing · How Canadian Markets Work

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After our last deep dive comparing the intraday
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control of ETFs against the straightforward mechanics
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of mutual funds, it's time to ask, what if you
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took a mutual fund, wrapped it in an insurance
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contract, and bolted on guarantees, creditor
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protection, and a way to bypass probate? Yeah,
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that is the million dollar question, isn't it?
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It really is. So welcome to the deep dive. Today,
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our mission is to take this massive stack of
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research on something called segregated funds
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and, well, find out what you are really paying
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for when you buy these products. Right, because
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the marketing pitch is incredibly compelling.
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Oh, absolutely. We're going to look under the
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hood today to see if they are, you know, the
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ultimate safety net for your hard earned investments.
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Or if you are basically paying a huge compounding
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premium for a parachute you are practically never
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going to use. Which happens a lot more than people
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think. Exactly. Because whether you are insanely
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curious about complex market structures or you're
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just trying to avoid total information overload
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when looking at your own retirement portfolio,
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you really need to know the fundamental difference
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between a product built for market gains and
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a product built for legal structuring. Yeah.
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And that distinction, it gets blurred constantly.
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in the financial world. I mean, when you hear
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the word fund, you naturally assume the primary
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objective is pure investment growth, right? Right,
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like a mutual fund. Exactly. But when we look
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closely at segregated funds, we are actually
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looking at a completely different animal. They
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operate under a totally different set of rules.
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Right. And if you just treat them like a standard
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everyday growth portfolio, the math is, well,
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it's going to work against you. OK, let's unpack
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this. What actually is a segregated fund? Because
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on a standard account statement, it functions
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a lot like a mutual fund. It looks identical
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to the untrained eye. Yeah. You have pooled money
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from thousands of investors. You have professional
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portfolio management making the day -to -day
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trading decisions. And the assets are priced
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regularly, but legally. It is not a mutual fund
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at all. No, it's not. It is an insurance contract.
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Which is wild to think about. It is issued by
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an insurance company, not a standard investment
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fund manager, and it comes with two massive selling
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points that you hear pitched all the time. The
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maturity guarantee and the death benefit guarantee.
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Right. And those two guarantees are the absolute
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core of the product. That's what you're paying
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for. So break those down for us. Sure. The maturity
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guarantee means that if you hold the contract
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to a set date, and this is usually a decade,
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sometimes even 15 years down the line, you are
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guaranteed to receive at least a specified percentage
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of your original deposit. Like even if the market
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totally tanks. Exactly. Usually it's 75 to 100
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percent of your money, no matter what the stock
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market did over that specific time frame. OK.
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And the death benefit. It functions very similarly.
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If you die while holding the contract, your beneficiary
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receives at least that guaranteed amount. Again,
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regardless of what the market is doing on the
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exact day you pass away. It sounds like buying
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a mutual fund that comes with its own personal
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bodyguard. That's a great way to put it, actually.
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Right. The market gets rough, the bodyguard steps
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in and says, don't worry, your principal is safe.
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But there is this other feature I saw in the
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research called a reset. Ah, yes. The resets.
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Yeah. So the idea is that if the market goes
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up, you can lock in those market gains and basically
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reset your guaranteed amount to that new higher
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value. But wait. Isn't resetting the guarantee
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just a clever trap? How do you mean? Because
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when you trigger that reset, you restart the
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clock on that 10 or 15 year commitment. It feels
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like a mechanism designed to just keep you locked
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into the contract indefinitely. What's fascinating
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here is that it is essentially a mathematical
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trade. Think of the insurance company like a
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very, very calculated casino. They know the historical
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odds and the historical data shows that over
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a 15 year horizon, broad equity markets end up
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higher far more often than not. Right, the market
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trends upward over long periods. Exactly. So
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they know the odds of them actually having to
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pay out that guarantee out of their own pocket
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are incredibly low, as long as you stay invested
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for that full -time period. By offering you the
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reset, the insurer is trading you a higher guaranteed
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floor in exchange for a longer lock -in period.
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Extending your maturity date gives them more
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time to invest your capital, collect their fees,
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and let the market naturally recover from any
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short -term dips. Because time heals all market
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wounds. Basically, yeah. Time is the shock absorber
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for market volatility. The longer you stay locked
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in, the less risk the insurance company actually
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holds. So a personal bodyguard for your investment
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sounds incredible, even if they make you sign
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a long -term contract. So why wouldn't everyone
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want one? Because bodyguards are incredibly expensive.
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And this brings us directly to the mathematics
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of the guarantees, which is really where the
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reality of this product sharply diverges from
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the glossy marketing brochure. Here's where it
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gets really interesting. Let's bulk down the
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cost difference between a standard mutual fund
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and a segregated fund. Let's do it. Let's say
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you have a mutual fund that charges a 2 % management
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expense ratio. or MUR, a comparable segregated
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fund holding virtually the exact same underlying
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investments, right? Might charge three percent
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at least three percent. Yeah now one percent
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might not sound like a lot to a casual observer
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It's just a penny on the dollar But we need to
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explain how this fee is actually collected because
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it's not like a bill you get in the mail No,
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not at all. The MER is deducted internally usually
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on a daily basis directly from the assets in
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the fund So it's invisible completely invisible.
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You never see a transaction on your statement
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that says, you know fee paid It just invisibly
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drags down your returns which hurts your compounding
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tremendously Because it's skimming off the total
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value of your account every single year, you
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lose out on the compounding growth of that money.
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Over a 20 -year horizon, that extra 1 % fee doesn't
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just shave a little off the top, it eats an enormous
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chunk of your wealth. So you are paying a hefty
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premium for the safety net. And here is the parachute
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analogy. I just can't get out of my head from
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reading the research. Let's hear it. Buying a
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segregated fund for market safety is like buying
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a parachute that is legally only allowed to open
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on a specific Tuesday 10 years from now, or on
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the day you die. That is painfully accurate.
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Because those guarantees do not apply at all
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times, do they? No, they do not. And this is
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the crucial limitation of the whole product.
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The safety net is entirely conditional. Let's
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say you are in year six of a 15 -year contract.
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The market crashes, you suddenly lose your job,
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and you need to withdraw that money to survive.
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Just a total worst -case scenario. Well, the
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guarantee does absolutely nothing for you in
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that moment. You take the market loss, just as
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you would in a normal mutual fund. But wait,
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the research said if you withdraw early, your
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guarantee is reduced. Proportionally. Yes. How
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does that math actually play out for the listener
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if they are forced to break the glass in an emergency?
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It is punishing. Let's walk through the numbers
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because people get this wrong all the time. Okay,
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wait on me. Imagine you deposit $100 ,000 into
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a segregated fund with a 100 % guarantee. So
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your guaranteed floor is $100 ,000. Simple enough.
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Fast forward a few years. A severe bear market
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hits. and your account value drops to $50 ,000.
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Ouch. Yeah. And then you lose your job, and you
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desperately need $25 ,000 to live on, so you
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withdraw it. Okay, so I took out 25 grand. Does
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my $100 ,000 guarantee just drop to 75 grand?
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No. This is where proportional reduction catches
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people entirely off guard. Uh -oh. You didn't
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just withdraw 25 % of your original deposit.
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You withdrew 50 % of your current account value,
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which was sitting at $50 ,000. Oh, wow. I see
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where this is going. Yeah. Because you withdrew
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half of your current assets, the insurance company
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reduces your guarantee by half. Your $100 ,000
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guarantee is instantly slashed to $50 ,000. Wow.
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That is brutal. So I've been paying a 3 % fee
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for six years for a protection that just evaporated
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the second I actually needed the money. Pretty
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much. And if the historical data shows that over
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a 10 plus year horizon, markets usually end up
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higher anyway, aren't you just paying a compounding
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annual fee for a guarantee that historically
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rarely ever pays out? Yes. I mean, this seems
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like an incredibly expensive way to feel safe
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while actively destroying your compounding returns.
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If we frame a segregated fund as a pure growth
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investment, you are entirely right. The math
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is terrible. You're dragging down your compounding
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returns severely. The honest framing is that
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this is insurance. Instead of using complex financial
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jargon like protective put options, think of
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it exactly like house insurance. You pay a non
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-refundable premium every single year to ensure
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that if your house burns to the ground, you get
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your original purchase price back. Which you
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hope never happens. Exactly. You know the odds
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of it happening are low. But you pay the premium
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anyway. Yeah. This raises an important question,
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though, when it comes to segregated funds. Which
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is? You have to ask if a 15 -year market drop
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is a risk you actually need to insure against.
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Or if you were just paying a premium to soothe
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your own anxiety about checking your portfolio.
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OK. So if the math is so terrible for regular,
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everyday retirement accounts, Why do these products
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even exist? I mean, the industry wouldn't sustain
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them if they were just bad mutual funds. No,
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they wouldn't. There must be a secret superpower
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buried in the legal structure that makes them
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worthwhile for somebody. There is. Absolutely.
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Once you stop looking at them as investment vehicles
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and start looking at them as legal structuring
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tools, their existence makes perfect sense. OK,
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so who are they for? They are designed for very
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specific use cases. Let's look at business owners
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and self -employed professionals first. Because
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a segregated fund is an insurance contract, the
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assets inside it can offer genuine creditor protection.
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Okay, let's put a scenario to that. Say I'm an
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entrepreneur and I open a second location for
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my business. I sign a commercial lease, I take
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out some loans, and I have personal liability
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if it all goes under. A very common situation.
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Right. If I have my life savings in a segregated
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fund and I name a defined beneficiary like my
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spouse or my child, Are those assets completely
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shielded from the bank or the landlord if my
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business goes bankrupt? Generally, yes. Wow.
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The insurance contract essentially builds a legal
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wall around those assets. But, and this is a
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massive but, we must be precise with the causality
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here. Meaning? The protection isn't a magic shield
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you can deploy at the last second. It has to
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be set up well before any insolvency is foreseeable.
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Ah, so no last -minute scrambling. Exactly. If
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you realize your business is failing on a Tuesday,
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then you frantically move all your assets into
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a segregated fund on a Wednesday, right before
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you declare bankruptcy on a Thursday. The courts
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are going to see right through that. Oh, absolutely.
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They can and will challenge that as a fraudulent
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transfer. But if it is done legitimately as part
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of long -term planning, it is a highly effective
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way for an entrepreneur to ensure that a business
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failure doesn't wipe out their family's entire
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financial foundation. Which means for a standard
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salaried T4 employee who has absolutely zero
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personal liability exposure in their day -to
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-day job, this feature is completely irrelevant.
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Completely irrelevant. You are paying for a shield
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you just don't need. Right. But that brings us
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to the second group of people who genuinely benefit.
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Who is that? those with complex estate planning
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needs. This is where the death benefit guarantee
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really flexes its muscles. Because it is an insurance
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contract with a named beneficiary, the payout
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upon death bypasses the deceased person's estate
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entirely. It just skips it. It skips it and goes
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straight to the beneficiary. And by bypassing
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the estate, it avoids probate. We hear that word
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a lot in financial planning, but let's define
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what the probate process actually is for the
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listener and why people pay so much money to
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avoid it. Sure. So probate is the legal process
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where a court validates a deceased person's will.
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When you pass away, Your executor can't just
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start handing out your money to your kids. They
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have to get permission, basically. They have
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to submit the will to the provincial court. And
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the court freezes the assets while they review
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everything. Depending on the province, this process
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can take months or even years if the estate is
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complex. That's a long time to wait for inheritance.
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It is. During that time, the beneficiaries might
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not have access to a single dollar. Furthermore,
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the province charges a probate fee. which is
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essentially a tax based on the total value of
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the estate. And those fees can get high, right?
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Very. In some provinces, this tax is ineligible.
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In others, it is a very meaningful percentage
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of a large estate. And finally, once a will goes
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to probate, it becomes a matter of public record.
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Oh, really? Yeah. Anyone can go to the courthouse
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and see exactly who got what. Wait, hang on.
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If the goal is just to bypass the estate and
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avoid probate, can't I just name a beneficiary
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on a registered account? Like if I have a tax
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-free savings account or registered retirement
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savings plan, I can just name my spouse or my
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kid on those forms. You certainly can. And that
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money also bypasses the estate, avoids probate,
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and transfers privately, right? That is correct.
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So why on earth would I pay a 1 % penalty every
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single year to a segregated fund to do something
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my TFSA basically does for free? You wouldn't.
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Oh, well, there you go. If we connect this to
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the bigger picture, you should absolutely maximize
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your registered accounts first. The named beneficiaries
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on TFSAs and ROSPs achieve those exact same estate
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bypass benefits without the exorbitant fees of
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a segregated fund. OK, so when do you use the
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SEG fund? Segregated funds are strictly for the
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overflow. They are for when Those cheaper registered
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options are completely maxed out. We're talking
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about large, non -registered investment accounts
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in provinces with high probate taxes, where the
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math of the tax actually justifies the drag of
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the management fee. Ah, I see. Or for privacy,
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maybe. Like, if you have a highly complex family
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situation, maybe a second marriage or estranged
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children, and you want a transfer of wealth to
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remain entirely private. Exactly. Because an
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insurance payout is a private contract, it never
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hits the public courthouse record. So the estranged
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family members can't go look it up precisely
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you are paying a premium for legal certainty
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and total privacy So once you realize that these
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are highly specific almost surgical legal tools
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rather than standard growth investments You also
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have to understand that they operate in a completely
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different regulatory universe Yes, and this is
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a massive blind spot for most investors because
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a segregated fund looks like a mutual fund I
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think a lot of people just assume it is regulated
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like one. It isn't. Standard mutual funds and
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securities are overseen by Provincial Securities
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Commissions and the Canadian Investment Regulatory
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Organization, or C I R O. Right. But segregated
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funds are insurance. They are sold by insurance
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licensed advisors and overseen by provincial
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insurance regulators. Which means the safety
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nets are totally different. Like if your standard
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investment dealer fails, say the brokerage holding
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your mutual funds or stocks goes bankrupt. you
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are covered by CIPF, the Canadian Investor Protection
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Fund. Correct. But if you hold a segregated fund
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and the firm fails, you are covered by a completely
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different entity called ASURUS. So how do those
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two mechanisms actually differ mechanically?
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It really comes down to what they are designed
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to protect. CIPF is designed to report missing
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property. Missing property, okay. If a brokerage
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goes bankrupt and your 100 shares of a standard
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mutual fund are missing, CIPF steps in to replace
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those shares. They don't guarantee what the shares
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are worth. They just ensure you get your property
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back. Right. They just find the shares and hand
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them back to you. Exactly. Asurus, on the other
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hand, is the protection center for the Canadian
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life insurance industry. It is designed to guarantee
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that your insurance promises remain intact. If
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the life insurance company backing your segregated
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fund collapses, Asurus steps in to ensure that
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your maturity guarantee and your death benefit
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guarantee are still honored. It is protecting
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the contract itself. And speaking of those guarantees,
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the research included a really vital warning
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that we should mention. If you are reading older
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educational materials or like vintage marketing
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brochures about segregated funds, they often
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overstate how generous these guarantees are today.
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They do. In the past, insurers offered incredibly
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robust guarantees. sometimes guaranteeing 100
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% of the principal with very short lock -in periods.
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That sounds amazing. It was. Yeah. But they priced
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those products in a totally different interest
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rate environment. For a decade, interest rates
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were near zero, which meant the cost for the
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insurance company to hedge and provide those
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guarantees just skyrocketed. Oh, because it was
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more expensive for them to play it safe in the
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background? Exactly. And because of those market
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realities, insurers have made modern guarantees
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much less generous. They pulled back. Makes sense.
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You have to verify the current terms of the specific
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contract you are signing today and not rely on
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an article written in 2010. The Modern Segregated
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Fund is a tighter more restrictive contract than
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its historical predecessors. So what does this
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all mean for the listener? Like, what happens
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to you if you buy one of these products without
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realizing you aren't protected by the standard
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investment safety nets you are used to? It means
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you're going to be calling the wrong coast guard
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in a storm. That's a great analogy. Yeah. If
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you have a dispute about the suitability of a
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segregated fund that was sold to you, you cannot
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take that complaint to CIO because CIO does not
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regulate insurance license advisors. Right. You
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have to go through the insurance regulatory channels.
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Knowing exactly which legal and regulatory system
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your money resides in before a crisis hits is
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the fundamental basis of risk management. You
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cannot navigate a storm if you don't even know
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which rulebook applies to your life savings.
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Okay, let's bring this all together and recap
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what we've uncovered in today's Deep Dive. Segregated
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funds are essentially mutual funds wearing thick,
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expensive insurance coats. Very expensive coats.
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They offer maturity guarantees and death benefit
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guarantees, but you pay a high compounding annual
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fee for a payout that, historically speaking,
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rarely happens over long 15 -year investment
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horizons. They are not everyday growth investments
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meant to maximize your compounding wealth. Definitely
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not. They are highly specific legal and structural
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tools designed for entrepreneurs who genuinely
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need creditor protection or individuals with
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complex non -registered estate. who need to avoid
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probate and maintain family privacy. They exchange
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your potential for maximal market return for
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legal certainty and structural shielding. If
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you don't explicitly need that legal shielding,
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you are paying a heavy price for a tool you just
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cannot fully utilize. Which leaves us with a
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final lingering question for you to mull over
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as you look at your own accounts. Since the historical
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math clearly shows that with segregated funds,
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we are paying a premium for guarantees that rarely
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actually trigger in our favor. How much of your
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current financial portfolio is actually built
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to grow your wealth and how much is just a hidden
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tax you are paying to manage your own anxiety.
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Understanding the mechanics is the only way to
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decide if the psychological comfort is actually
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worth the financial cost. Always keep questioning
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your sources and always verify what rule book
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your money is playing by. Thanks for joining
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us on this deep dive. And remember, before you
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pay top dollar for a parachute, make sure you
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aren't perfectly safe staying firmly on the ground.