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Drug Lord Flew Out Hitman Friends to Burn Dancer Alive in Car · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: A nationwide drug kingpin orchestrates this massive cross-country assassination. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he utilizes burner phones, flight logistics, a dedicated getaway driver. Right.
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  Speaker 2: The whole nine yards.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It is designed to be this textbook dark
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  Speaker 1: web level conspiracy that leaves zero trace. But instead of
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  Speaker 1: vanishing into the night like some, you know, Hollywood mastermind,
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  Speaker 1: His entire sprawling empire is completely dismantled by a flimsy
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  Speaker 1: plastic grocery bag and a single microscopic drop of human sweat.
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  Speaker 2: It really just shatters that myth of the perfect crime.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like the illusion that a syndicate could somehow
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  Speaker 2: operate above the physical laws of the universe.
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  Speaker 1: It does. And welcome to The Deep Drive. We are
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  Speaker 1: so thrilled you're here with us today.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Our source material for this analysis is a phenomenal, highly
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  Speaker 1: detailed transcript from the Long Crime Network's show. And it
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  Speaker 1: features the insights of forensic death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, his breakdown is just incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. So our mission today, what we want
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  Speaker 1: you to walk away with, is a profound understanding of
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  Speaker 1: how modern forensic science and digital tracking, how they systematically
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  Speaker 1: deconstruct even the most calculated sadistic criminal plots. Right.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to look at the microscopic anomalies that
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  Speaker 2: bring down empires.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, the word sadistic is unfortunately the operative
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  Speaker 1: term here. The source material deals with extreme deliberate violence.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets very dark.
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  Speaker 1: It does. But it also highlights the absolute triumph of
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  Speaker 1: forensic methodology over that violence, right? It shows how investigators
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  Speaker 1: pieced together a voice for someone who was violently silenced.
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  Speaker 2: Well said. Okay, let's look at the timeline. April of 2023,
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  Speaker 2: we are in Tempe, Arizona, and we're focusing on a
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  Speaker 2: 22-year-old woman named Mercedes Vega.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She's an exotic dancer living in an apartment complex in Tempe.
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  Speaker 2: And the last time she is captured on any camera,
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  Speaker 2: she is doing something you and I do like every
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  Speaker 2: single day, walking into the parking structure of her own
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  Speaker 2: apartment building.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that transition from the public street into a residential
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  Speaker 2: parking garage is historically a massive vulnerability point.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. You are moving out of the public eye,
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  Speaker 2: but you haven't yet reached the secure threshold of your
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  Speaker 2: actual apartment door.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a liminal space.
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  Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. And tragically, she never
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  Speaker 1: makes it to her door. The immediate aftermath discovered by
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  Speaker 1: investigators sets off every single alarm bell. They find blood
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  Speaker 1: on the concrete floor of the parking garage.
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  Speaker 2: Just right there on the ground?
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  Speaker 1: Right. Then, abandoned a short distance away near the complex,
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  Speaker 1: they find Mercedes' personal car. And inside that car, pooled
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  Speaker 1: in the passenger seat, is more blood.
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  Speaker 2: A scene like that, it dictates the entire trajectory of
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  Speaker 2: the initial investigation. Before any lab work is even started,
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  Speaker 2: The physical environment is telling a story of immediate overwhelming trauma.
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  Speaker 1: OK, let's unpack this, because looking at Morgan says breakdown
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  Speaker 1: of the scene, it completely changes how you view that
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  Speaker 1: blood on the concrete.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does.
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  Speaker 1: Like my initial thought, hearing about blood in a garage
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  Speaker 1: is a fatal attack. But the analysis points to something else.
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  Speaker 1: The compliance theory. Right. This wasn't a murder scene. It
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  Speaker 1: was an abduction scene. It was a mechanism of forced compliance.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, think about your own car for a second.
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  Speaker 2: It's your space.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's basically a rolling extension of your living room.
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  Speaker 1: It's a sanctuary, a kingdom. You lock the doors. You
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  Speaker 1: control the environment. So forcing someone out of their routine,
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  Speaker 1: out of their spatial awareness, and physically shoving them into
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  Speaker 1: a vehicle, especially their own vehicle, that requires a terrifying
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  Speaker 1: level of aggression.
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  Speaker 2: It requires an absolute override of a human being's most
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  Speaker 2: primal survival instincts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you are attempting to transport someone against their will,
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  Speaker 2: which means they are fighting with everything they have.
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  Speaker 1: Literally fighting for their life.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. This isn't a random mugging gone wrong or a
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  Speaker 2: momentary scuffle. To physically compel a 22-year-old woman into a
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  Speaker 2: car requires targeted, overwhelming force. So the blood found in
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  Speaker 2: that garage and in the passenger seat is the physical
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  Speaker 2: manifestation of that overpowering force. The perpetrators had to inflict
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  Speaker 2: immediate disorienting injury, like a blunt strike to the skull,
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  Speaker 2: severe lacerations, simply to break her physical resistance. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: signals to law enforcement within the first hour that this
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  Speaker 2: was a highly coordinated, deeply personal operation.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't there to rob her. They were there to
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  Speaker 1: take her.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And the source material tracks this timeline from that parking
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  Speaker 1: garage to an escalation of violence that is honestly almost
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  Speaker 1: difficult to comprehend. We have to move the map 60
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  Speaker 1: miles west, away from the Tempe apartment complex, out into
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  Speaker 1: the desert. out to Tonopa, Arizona, right on the shoulder
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  Speaker 1: of Interstate 10.
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  Speaker 2: And I-10 out near Tonopa is incredibly desolate. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a massive stretch of highway surrounded by just scrub
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  Speaker 2: brush and open desert.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere. Out on the
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  Speaker 1: side of that highway, first responders find a Chevrolet Malibu
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  Speaker 1: fully engulfed in flames, just a towering inferno on the
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  Speaker 1: shoulder of the road.
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  Speaker 2: It's burning out of control.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And to clarify, this is not Mercedes' car. Her
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  Speaker 1: car was the one left back in Tempeh. Firefighters extinguish
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  Speaker 1: the blaze, and inside the charred shell of this Malibu,
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  Speaker 1: in the back seat, they find Mercedes' body.
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  Speaker 2: Which initiates one of the most complex procedures in forensic pathology, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The fire-related death investigation. And the sheer volume of trauma
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  Speaker 2: discovered by the medical examiner paints a timeline of agonizing duration.
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  Speaker 1: The findings are horrifying. I mean, the autopsy revealed bleach
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  Speaker 1: in her throat. Yeah. She had a gunshot wound to
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  Speaker 1: her arm. She had severe blunt force trauma to her head.
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  Speaker 1: And the ultimate cause of death was determined to be
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  Speaker 1: burns and smoke inhalation.
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  Speaker 2: Every single one of those pathological findings represents a distinct
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  Speaker 2: phase of the attack. But the detail that completely reclassifies
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  Speaker 2: the psychology of the perpetrators, what's fascinating here is the bleach.
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  Speaker 1: The bleach, yeah, that stood out to me so much.
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  Speaker 2: It's chilling. The source draws a direct parallel to a
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  Speaker 2: notorious case from Knoxville, Tennessee. The murders of Christopher Newsom,
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  Speaker 2: and Shannon Christian. In both of these investigations, the presence
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  Speaker 2: of bleach signifies one specific thing, prolonged torture.
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  Speaker 1: Because bleach isn't used in a panic, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if someone commits a crime of passion, they flee.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: They don't introduce household cleaning chemicals into the victim's anatomy.
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  Speaker 2: No. Pouring bleach into a victim's throat is a calculated
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  Speaker 2: sadistic process. It's chemical warfare on the human body. It
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  Speaker 2: burns the esophagus, destroys the mucosal lining, and causes just
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  Speaker 2: excruciating internal agony. God. And the medical examiner finding it
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  Speaker 2: in her throat indicates it was forced down into her
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  Speaker 2: stomach while she was still enduring the attack. It proves
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  Speaker 2: this was not a swift execution.
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  Speaker 1: They took their time.
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  Speaker 2: They absolutely took their time. They maintained control over her
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  Speaker 2: in a location long enough to administer this chemical, really
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  Speaker 2: just reveling in the psychological and physical terror they were inflicting.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes the forensic science behind this even more staggering.
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  Speaker 1: Because I have to ask the logistical question here, and
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  Speaker 1: I think anyone listening is wondering the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 1: If a body is trapped in a car fire that
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  Speaker 1: burns so hot it reduces the vehicle to a rusted
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  Speaker 1: metal skeleton on the side of the interstate, how is
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  Speaker 1: the evidence not just incinerated?
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  Speaker 2: That's the million-dollar question.
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  Speaker 1: Right. How does a medical examiner pull charred remains from
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  Speaker 1: a fire and definitively say, oh, she was shot in
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  Speaker 1: the arm, or there is bleach in this tissue? Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: a fire of that magnitude just hit the reset button
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  Speaker 1: on a crime scene?
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  Speaker 2: Perpetrators certainly believe it does. I mean, the deployment of
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  Speaker 2: fire is probably the oldest trick in the criminal playbook
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  Speaker 2: for destroying evidence.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you see it in movies all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. But it operates on a fundamental misunderstanding of physics
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  Speaker 2: and human anatomy. Fire-related investigations are notoriously agonizing for medical examiners, sure,
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  Speaker 2: but they rarely result in a completely erased slate.
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  Speaker 1: So walk us through the actual procedure then. You obviously
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  Speaker 1: can't just lay a burned body on a table and
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  Speaker 1: start a standard autopsy, right? The structural integrity of the
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  Speaker 1: tissue is completely compromised. Right.
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  Speaker 2: You don't touch the remains with a scalpel until you
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  Speaker 2: have completely mapped the internal landscape.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You use advanced imaging. The entire body is x-rayed, or
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  Speaker 2: in high-level facilities, they run it through a full CT scanner.
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  Speaker 2: The primary objective is to locate what we call radiopaque bodies.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, radiopaque bodies, meaning things that block the radiation from
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  Speaker 1: the X-ray machine.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Like human bone absorbs some X-rays, so it looks white,
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  Speaker 1: but heavy metals block it entirely, rendering them just a
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  Speaker 1: blinding stark white on the film.
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  Speaker 2: Specifically, they're looking for lead core projectiles, bullets. And this
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  Speaker 2: leads to a phenomenon Morgan describes in the source as
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  Speaker 2: a lead storm, which is just a fascinating intersection of
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  Speaker 2: ballistics and biology.
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  Speaker 1: A lead storm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. When a lead bullet strikes human tissue, and especially
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  Speaker 2: when it impacts bone, it doesn't just drill a clean hole.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because the metallurgy of a bullet is designed to
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  Speaker 1: transfer kinetic energy. If it hits a femur or a humerus,
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  Speaker 1: the bullet mushrooms and frequently just shatters.
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  Speaker 2: It fragments violently. Microscopic and macroscopic shards of lead shear
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  Speaker 2: off the main projectile as it travels through the body.
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  Speaker 2: So on an X-ray, this looks like a literal snowstorm
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  Speaker 2: tracking through the victim's tissue, like a trail of bright
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  Speaker 2: white stars suspended in the anatomy.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So even if the entrance wound on the skin
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  Speaker 1: is completely burned away and the exit wound is destroyed
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  Speaker 1: by the fire, that internal storm of metal remains permanently
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  Speaker 1: lodged inside the deep muscle and bone. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: The ambient temperature of a car fire will never reach
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  Speaker 2: the threshold required to vaporize lead embedded deep within human bone.
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  Speaker 1: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: It really is. The medical examiner uses that radiograph to
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  Speaker 2: track the exact trajectory of the bullet. They can map
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  Speaker 2: the entry angle, the path of fragmentation, and the final
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  Speaker 2: resting place of the core. It provides a definitive, unalterable
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  Speaker 2: map of ballistic trauma that the fire simply cannot touch.
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  Speaker 1: But wait, that introduces a massive secondary problem.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what's that?
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  Speaker 1: If a car is burning at over a thousand degrees,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the victim that's getting hot. The entire
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  Speaker 1: interior of the Chevrolet Malibu is melting. The seat springs,
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  Speaker 1: the plastic dashboard, the metal screws in the door panels,
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  Speaker 1: all of that environmental debris is dripping and collapsing directly
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  Speaker 1: onto the victim.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that happens.
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  Speaker 1: So how do investigators look at an X-ray or a
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  Speaker 1: physical body and differentiate between like a bullet fragment that
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  Speaker 1: caused trauma and just a random screw from the car's
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  Speaker 1: stereo system that melted onto her shoulder?
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  Speaker 2: That is the complication of debris. And it is exactly
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  Speaker 2: what makes these autopsies take days or weeks instead of hours.
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  Speaker 1: I can imagine.
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  Speaker 2: When synthetic materials and metals melt, they fuse to the
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  Speaker 2: surface of the remains. So the forensic team has to
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  Speaker 2: undertake this agonizingly meticulous process of delineation. They map every
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  Speaker 2: single piece of foreign material.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: They have to trace the anatomical origin of the trauma.
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  Speaker 2: Like a melted zipper pole sits on the surface of
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  Speaker 2: the charred skin. But a bullet fragment sits at the
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  Speaker 2: end of a kinetic trauma channel deep inside the tissue,
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  Speaker 2: surrounded by bone fracturing that occurred before the fire even started.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like forensic excavation. They are unearthing the true
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  Speaker 1: timeline of violence from beneath a layer of melted environmental interference.
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  Speaker 2: That's a perfect way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: And through that painstaking excavation, they proved the blunt force trauma,
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  Speaker 1: they proved the gunshot wound, and they proved the chemical torture.
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  Speaker 1: But as we mentioned earlier, they also proved something far darker. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The medical examiner concluded that Mercedes Vega died from burns
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  Speaker 1: and smoke inhalation. She was burned alive.
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  Speaker 2: It elevates the criminality from a brutal assassination to an
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  Speaker 2: act of sheer unrestrained evil.
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  Speaker 1: It really does. And I want to look at the
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  Speaker 1: biology of how they prove that. Because a defense attorney's
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  Speaker 1: first instinct is going to be to claim, oh, she
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  Speaker 1: was already deceased when the fire started. The fire was
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  Speaker 1: just a post-mortem cover-up.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. That's the standard defense.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So how does medical science definitively separate a body
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  Speaker 1: burned after death from a victim who is alive when
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  Speaker 1: the flames ignited?
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  Speaker 2: It hinges on a specific, undeniable biological reflex, and it's
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  Speaker 2: measured by a standard protocol blood test in any fire death,
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  Speaker 2: the carboxyhemoglobin test.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's break down the mechanics of carboxyhemoglobin.
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  Speaker 2: It requires an understanding of how respiration functions in a
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  Speaker 2: highly toxic environment. In an enclosed fire, like the cabin
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  Speaker 2: of a car, The flames rapidly consume the available oxygen,
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  Speaker 2: and they churn out massive concentrations of carbon monoxide.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: If a victim is already deceased before the fire is set,
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  Speaker 2: their circulatory system is offline. The heart isn't pumping. The
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  Speaker 2: lungs aren't expanding.
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  Speaker 1: So they aren't breathing it in.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The carbon monoxide in the ambient air might settle
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  Speaker 2: on their skin, but it has no physiological mechanism to
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  Speaker 2: actually enter the bloodstream.
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  Speaker 1: The mechanical pump is broken. The system is closed.
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  Speaker 2: But if a victim is alive, even if they are
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  Speaker 2: entirely unconscious from blunt force trauma or blood loss, their
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  Speaker 2: autonomic nervous system is still desperately trying to keep them alive.
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  Speaker 1: The body's just running on autopilot. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: The brainstem forces the lungs to draw breath. When they
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  Speaker 2: inhale that superheated toxic air, the carbon monoxide enters the
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  Speaker 2: alveoli in the lungs and crosses the membrane directly into
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  Speaker 2: the bloodstream.
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  Speaker 1: And this is where the specific chemistry of human blood
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  Speaker 1: becomes a fatal vulnerability, right? Because hemoglobin, the protein in
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  Speaker 1: our red blood cells that's designed to carry oxygen, it
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  Speaker 1: actually prefers carbon monoxide, doesn't it? It does.
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  Speaker 2: It has a binding affinity for carbon monoxide that is
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  Speaker 2: roughly 200 times greater than its affinity for oxygen.
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  Speaker 1: 200 times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. Given the choice, hemoglobin will latch onto
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  Speaker 2: carbon monoxide instantly and refuse to let go, forming the
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  Speaker 2: compound carboxyhemoglobin. The body is actively, aggressively uptaking the very
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  Speaker 2: poison that is killing it.
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  Speaker 1: It aggressively metabolizes the smoke.
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  Speaker 2: So during the autopsy, the medical examiner draws blood from
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  Speaker 2: deep within the core of the body tissue that was
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  Speaker 2: protected from the extreme surface heat.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And when they run that tox draw through a spectrometer,
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  Speaker 2: they are looking for the concentration of carboxyhemoglobin. A significantly
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  Speaker 2: elevated level provides undeniable biological proof that the autonomic nervous
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  Speaker 2: system was functioning during the fire.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. It's a scientific marker that cannot be staged. It's
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  Speaker 1: the victim's own cellular biology speaking from the autopsy table,
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  Speaker 1: providing the horrifying truth of her final moments.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: And, I mean, just thinking about the investigator sitting in
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  Speaker 1: a sterile lab, reading the specific numerical value on that
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  Speaker 1: toxicology report, the psychological weight of that data is staggering.
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  Speaker 2: It takes a toll.
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  Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan noted that this is the kind of
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  Speaker 1: empirical evidence investigators carry with them for decades. Like, long
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  Speaker 1: into their retirement, they will close their eyes and still
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  Speaker 1: see the math that proved a 22-year-old woman suffered the unimaginable.
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  Speaker 2: The science is entirely objective, but the reality it illuminates
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  Speaker 2: is profoundly emotional.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's that emotional drive that forces forensic teams to
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  Speaker 2: process crime scenes with such obsessive, microscopic attention to detail. Which,
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  Speaker 2: you know, brings us to the first major physical anomaly
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  Speaker 2: discovered inside the burned Malibu. Right.
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  Speaker 1: This is the part of the investigation that just defies
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  Speaker 1: basic logic. Inside the charred shell of this Chevrolet, a
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  Speaker 1: fire so intense that it melted metal fixtures onto the
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  Speaker 1: victim's body. Investigators found a flimsy, disposable plastic cup. And
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  Speaker 1: it was perfectly preserved.
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  Speaker 2: Just a standard plastic cup sitting amidst total devastation.
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  Speaker 1: I have to challenge the physics on this. We just
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  Speaker 1: established a thermal event hot enough to incinerate a human
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  Speaker 1: being and fuse seat springs. Right. If you toss a
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  Speaker 1: plastic cup anywhere near a standard campfire... It shrivels into
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  Speaker 1: a toxic puddle of goo in like three seconds. How
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  Speaker 1: does a thin layer of cheap plastic survive an inferno?
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  Speaker 2: It really feels like a glitch in the matrix, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Totally.
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  Speaker 2: But to understand why the cup survived, we have to
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  Speaker 2: strip away our Hollywood misconceptions about vehicle fires and look
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  Speaker 2: at the actual thermodynamics. Cars are surprisingly very difficult to burn.
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  Speaker 1: Which feels super counterintuitive considering we drive around sitting on
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  Speaker 1: top of 15 gallons of highly combustible liquid. Right.
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  Speaker 2: The fuel tank is volatile, yes. But the interior cabin,
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  Speaker 2: the upholstery, the dashboard, the ceiling liner, is mandated by
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  Speaker 2: federal safety standards to be heavily treated with fire retardants.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you drop a lit match onto the passenger
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  Speaker 2: seat of a modern sedan, it will likely just scorch
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  Speaker 2: the fabric and extinguish itself. Unless the actual engine block
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  Speaker 2: catches fire and breaches the metal firewall... The cabin simply
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  Speaker 2: does not contain enough sustainable fuel to spontaneously generate an inferno.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: So to create the towering blaze first responders found on I-10,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the killers couldn't rely on the car itself. They had
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: to bring in outside help.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: They had to introduce an accelerant, gasoline, lighter fluid, something
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: highly volatile poured directly into the cabin. And this leads
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to a crucial scientific distinction Morgan highlights. An accelerant is
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: fundamentally different from a fuel.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's expand on that difference because it explains the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: anomaly of the cup, right?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Exactly. A fuel is designed to sustain a thermal event
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: over a long duration, like hardwood in a fireplace is
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: a fuel. It burns slowly, generates consistent heat, and lasts
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: for hours. An accelerant does exactly what the name implies.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: It rapidly accelerates the combustion process. When you dump gasoline
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: inside a car cabin, the liquid quickly vaporizes, filling the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: enclosed space with combustible fumes.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: When a spark is introduced... You don't get a slow
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: building fire. You get a flash fire or a flashover.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: A massive instantaneous wall of combustion. Yes.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: The vapor ignites all at once, consuming the available oxygen
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: in a violent explosive burst. The ambient temperature spikes to
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: incredibly lethal extremes within seconds. Oh, wow. But, and this
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: is the critical physical mechanism, because the accelerant burns with
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: such ravenous speed, it rapidly exhausts its own supply.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: The fire starves itself before it can settle in.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The flashover creates a fatal shockwave of heat, but
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: it vanishes before the ambient temperature of the car's interior
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: can remain elevated long enough to conduct heat into the
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: surrounding non-flammable objects. Wait, really?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: The plastic cup has a specific thermal mass. It requires
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: sustained heat over a period of time to absorb enough
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: energy to melt. The flash fires simply move too fast.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: The Krupp was shielded by the sheer thermodynamic speed of
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the event.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: That is the ultimate poetic backfire of a criminal conspiracy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: The killers attempt to obliterate the crime scene by creating
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a flashover, completely unaware that the physics of their own
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: arson are creating the exact thermal anomaly required to preserve
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a piece of plastic.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: The arrogance of the arsonist preserved the evidence of their presence.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: That's wild because on the bottom of that perfectly preserved cup,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: investigators pull a pristine fingerprint.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: A perfect print.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: They run the print through the database and it pings
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a match. A 25-year-old man named Jared Gray. Now, here
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: is where the criminal masterminds start to look incredibly foolish.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Jared Gray is located and arrested all the way over
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: in Georgia.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: A long way from Arizona.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And when investigators sit him down, he plays the
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: classic card. He claims total ignorance. He states for the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: record that he has absolutely nothing to do with any murder.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And in fact, he has never even set foot in
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the state of Arizona.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It is the standard geographic defense. Like, if I wasn't
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: in the state, I couldn't have committed the crime.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But as forensic science proves time and time again, biological
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: material does not respect your alibi. And Jared Gray's fingerprint
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: on the cup was just the first microscopic domino to fall.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: To find the next piece of this puzzle, the investigation
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: rewinds back to the starting line. We go back to Tempe,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Arizona to the parking garage where Mercedes Vega's car was
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: found abandoned.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: The abduction scene.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Right. When crime scene technicians were processing her vehicle, they
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: focused on the passenger seat where the initial blood was found.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Sitting in that seat was Mercedes' large purse, which she
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: was seen carrying on the security footage. Okay. Hidden underneath
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the weight of that purse was a plastic grocery bag.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Just a standard, crinkly, plastic shopping bag with blood near
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the handles. And stuffed inside that bag was a second
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: plastic bag.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: An incredibly mundane, easily overlooked piece of trash in the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: middle of a highly traumatic scene.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: But the technicians processed it anyway. And they find a
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: fingerprint on the plastic, they isolate the print, they digitize it,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and they upload it to AFIS, the National Automated Fingerprint
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Identification System.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And then?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And they wait. Nothing happens. The database comes up entirely empty.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that happens a lot. The system is only as
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: good as the data it holds. If an individual has
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: never been arrested, never had their prints rolled for a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: federal background check, or never served in the military, their
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: biometric data simply does not exist in the National Registry.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: They are a ghost.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: They're a complete ghost.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So for a full year, the investigators have the biological
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: signature of a killer sitting in a file but no
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: name to attach it to. Then, in May of 2024,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a 22-year-old named Censor Hayes is arrested. He's not arrested
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in Arizona. He is arrested thousands of miles away in Tennessee.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: During the booking process, his fingers are rolled across the glass,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: his prints are digitized, and they are sent to the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: national server.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And the ghost is immediately given a name. The algorithm
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: flags a match connecting the arrestee in Tennessee to the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: bloody grocery bag found in Tempe a year prior.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I want to spend some real time exploring the biology
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of this because police procedurals on TV have completely ruined
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: our understanding of fingerprints.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: On TV, a detective blows some dust on a steering wheel,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: slaps a piece of tape on it, and catches the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: bad guy in five seconds. But pulling a viable print
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: off a flexible, crumpled plastic grocery bag That is a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: masterclass in forensic technique.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: It requires a level of surgical precision that is honestly
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: difficult to overstate. To appreciate the feat those technicians accomplished
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: in tempeh, we have to correct a fundamental misconception about
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: what a fingerprint actually is, especially when interacting with a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: non-porous surface.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Well, most people assume a fingerprint is just a sweat stain. Right.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Sweat is a component, but it's not the primary structural
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: element of a print. As Morgan notes, we don't technically
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: have fingerprints on our hands. We have friction ridges.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Friction ridges?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yes. These are the elevated textured lines on the palmar
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: surfaces of our hands and the soles of our feet,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: evolved specifically to give us grip and tactile feedback. The
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: print is the negative image left behind when those ridges
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: make contact with the surface.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, so what exactly is transferring from the ridge to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the plastic bag?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Our skin is the largest organ of the body, the
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: integumentary system. It is constantly secreting fluids. While the eccrine
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: glands produce sweat, the sebaceous glands produce an oily, waxy
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: substance made of fatty lipids.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Like skin oil.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly. These microscopic oils constantly coat the surface of our
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: friction ridges. When you touch an object, you are physically
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: stamping it with these biological oils, leaving behind a topographical
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: map of your ridges cast in human fat.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And the surface you touch dictates how that stamp behaves, right?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Like if you touch a poor surface, like a piece
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of paper or cardboard, Those oils soak directly into the fiber.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: The material absorbs it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: The material absorbs the print, protecting it to some degree.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But a plastic grocery bag is entirely non-porous.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: The lipids have nowhere to go. They don't soak into
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the plastic. They just sit perched precariously on top of
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the surface, held in place only by surface tension.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It's like water beating up on a freshly waxed car hood.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It's just resting there, waiting to be wiped away.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And that introduces the problem of extreme fragility. Morgan
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: compares the difficulty of this extraction... to the 2004 Madrid-Spain
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: terrorist train bombings, where investigators famously had to pull a
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: print from a plastic bag containing detonators.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: While glass is also non-porous, glass is rigid. It doesn't yield.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: A plastic grocery bag is flexible. It crinkles, it folds,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: it collapses in on itself.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Think about the physics of that bag trapped under a
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: heavy purse in a hot car. If the technician removing
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that bag makes one single inappropriate movement, if they brush
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the plastic against the fabric of the car seat, Or
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: if they fold the bag improperly while placing it into
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: an evidence envelope, the friction of the bag rubbing against
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: itself will instantly smear the lipid deposit.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And a smear destroys the geometry of the friction ridges.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: The microscopic valleys fill with oil, the lines blur together,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and all those mathematical points of identification vanish. The print
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: becomes forensically useless.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It's gone forever.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Gone. The technician who processed Mercedes' car had to recognize
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: the potential evidentiary value of a piece of trash. freeze
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the environment, and extract that bag with such agonizing care
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that the plastic never experienced a single degree of friction.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: They preserved a microscopic layer of human fat on a
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: crinkled piece of plastic for an entire year. And that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: lipid deposit provided the mathematical proof, placing sensor haze inside
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Mercedes Vega's car.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Incredible work.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So let's look at the suspects we have collected so far.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: We have Jared Gray, whose fingerprint survived a flash fire
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: on a cup in Tenopa. Right. We have Censor Hayes,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: whose fingerprint was painstakingly lifted from a plastic bag in Tempe.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And we have a third individual, Cujo Young, who authorities
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: have identified as the connective tissue between them. What binds
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: these three men together initially?
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: The most immediate connection is geographic origin. All three men
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: hail from Tennessee.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Which makes Jared Gray's statement to the police in Georgia
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that he's never been to Arizona look incredibly weak.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Highly suspect, yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But the biological evidence is only the first half of
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the trap. We are transitioning now into the digital evidence,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and this is where the grand illusion of the criminal
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: mastermind completely falls apart. Their attempt at a sophisticated, untraceable
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: conspiracy is exposed as a stunningly sloppy series of digital blunders.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: The modern digital footprint is just inescapable. Criminals often focus
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: obsessively on scrubbing physical DNA from a scene, completely ignoring
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the terabytes of metadata they are generating just by existing
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: in the modern world.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Let's trace this digital house of cards. Investigators start pulling
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: financial records and they discover plane tickets. Someone purchased commercial
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: airline flights for Censor Hayes and Jared Gray to travel
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: from Tennessee to Arizona in the window immediately preceding the murder.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And purchasing commercial airfare requires a financial trail. You cannot
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: use cash under an assumed name easily anymore.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: They didn't even try. The plane tickets were purchased using
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a credit card linked directly to Cujo Young. The alleged
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: mastermind funded the logistical travel of his hitmen using his
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: own traceable plastic.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: It provides immediate, irrefutable financial documentation linking the three suspects
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to interstate travel geared specifically toward the location and timeline
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: of the crime.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: But the metadata embedded in that transaction goes much further
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: than just a simple bank statement.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Right. Because when you book a flight online, the airline
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: requires contact information. The ticket purchase was linked to a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: specific cellular phone number. Investigators take that number, serve a
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: warrant to the telecommunications provider, and pull the historical cell
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: tower location data for that specific device on the day
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: of the murder.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: This is the reality of modern surveillance. A cellular phone
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: operates as a continuous tracking beacon. Even if you are
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: not actively making a phone call or sending a text message,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: your device is quietly pinging the nearest cell towers every
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: few seconds, to assess signal strength and maintain a network connection.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Always looking for service.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Those silent handshakes between the phone and the towers
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: create a breadcrumb trail of geographical data.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And the precision of that tracking changes depending on the environment.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Like in a dense city with hundreds of overlapping microtowers,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: triangulation is incredibly localized. Right. But out on Interstate 10...
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a desolate highway in the middle of the desert, the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: towers are spaced really far apart.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: So the phone has to reach out across miles of
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: open space to connect, logging its trajectory as it moves
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: from one tower's radius to the next. Yeah. The digital
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: mapping of this specific phone showed it traveling west on I-10,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: mirroring the exact chronological path of the Chevrolet Malibu. The
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: pings terminated in the precise geographic area in Tanopa, where
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the burning car and Mercedes' body were discovered.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: The phone rode in the car to the murder scene.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Morgan points out in the source material how common this
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: is becoming, comparing it to the case of Sasha Krause,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the New Mexico Mennonite woman.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, the Mennonite case.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: In that case, investigators tracked the perpetrator's phone moving in
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: tandem with the victim's phone down the highway. The idea
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that you can isolate yourself in the desert and commit
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a crime without witnesses is completely obsolete if you have
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a lithium-ion battery in your pocket.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: You are literally carrying a witness with you. But the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: digital incompetence of this crew doesn't end with passive pinging.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: They actively used the device to solve a logistical nightmare
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: they created for themselves.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, think about the physical reality of the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: crime scene in Tanopa. Censor Hayes and Jared Gray are
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: standing on the shoulder of a dark interstate. They have
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: just set the Chevrolet Malibu on fire. Their only mode
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: of transportation is currently a fireball. Yeah. They are stranded
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: in the desert. How do they plan to get back?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: to civilization?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: A cross-country assassination plot requires an extraction plan. They need
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: a getaway driver.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And here is where the conspiracy completely fractures. Investigators combing
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: through the cell tower dumps for the Tonopah area notice
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: a second, unrelated phone number pinging near the burning car
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. They trace the number.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: identify the owner, and bring this unidentified man into an
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: interrogation room.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: This introduces the most fragile element of any conspiracy. The
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: human breaking point.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: The man folds almost immediately. He confesses to investigators that
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: at roughly 2.0 a.m. on the night of the murder,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: his phone rang. The caller was Kujo Young. Young instructs
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: this man to drive out into the desert to a
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: specific location to... quote, pick up a package.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: A laughably thin layer of operational security code.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: A package. So the driver goes out to Tanopa and
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the package turns out to be Censor Hayes and Jared Gray.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: He picks up the stranded hitmen, drives them back toward
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the Phoenix area. And from there, authorities track Hayes and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Gray purchasing tickets for a Greyhound bus, which they take
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: all the way back across the country to Chattanooga, Tennessee.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And just to seal the digital loop completely, The police
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: confirmed that the phone number that called the getaway driver
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: at 2.0 a.m. was the exact same phone number used
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to purchase the plane tickets.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: The digital data forms just an inescapable mathematical trap. And
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: this highlights a fundamental weakness in criminal defense strategy in
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: the modern era.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: How so?
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Well, a defense attorney can stand before a jury and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: attempt to cast doubt on human error. They can argue
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: the crime scene technician sneezed while packaging the plastic bag
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: or Or that the lab cross-contaminated the lipid deposit.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: You can attack the human element of evidence collection.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: But you cannot cross-examine a cell tower.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Metadata does not have an agenda. A credit card receipt
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: processing a flight transaction does not suffer from cognitive bias.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: It is pure, unemotional mathematics. Furthermore, the inclusion of the 2.am
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: getaway driver illustrates the fatal flaw of expanding a conspiracy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Because more people means more risk. Yes.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: The logistics of a cross-country murder require capital, transportation, and shooters.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: But every single individual added to the roster is a
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: structural vulnerability.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: You're just adding more people who can trade your freedom
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: for theirs.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Once you place multiple conspirators in the pressure cooker of
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: an interrogation room, the entire operation collapses. The getaway driver
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: flipped instantly to distance himself from a capital murder charge.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: The digital infrastructure caught them, and their own logistical network
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: sold them out.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the apex of this criminal network.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: We have to examine the mastermind. We need to look
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: at Kujo Young. Who is this individual and why did
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: he direct this level of extreme violence at a 22-year-old
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: dancer in Tempe?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: To understand the motive, the timeline has to rewind three
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: years prior to the murder, back to 2020.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: In 2020, Kujo Young was allegedly operating with a very specific,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: highly predatory pattern of behavior. According to the prosecution, Young
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: had established a history of targeting exotic dancers who worked
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: at a particular club.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: His methodology was chillingly simple. He would wait for the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: women to finish their shifts, stalk them as they drove
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: home in the early hours of the morning, and ambush
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: them at their residences, demanding their cash earnings at gunpoint.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: He was exploiting a demographic he calculated to be vulnerable.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Predators often target individuals in cash-heavy nightlife professions, under the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: assumption that they will be too intimidated or distrustful of
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: law enforcement to report the crime.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: He assumed they would stay quiet. But Mercedes Vega was
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: one of the women he ambushed in 2020, and she
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: defied his expectations. She went straight to the police. She
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: identified Cujo Young in a photographic lineup. She documented her
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: trauma in a victim impact statement. Most critically, she was
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: preparing to take the stand in open court and testify
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: against him for armed robbery.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And there it is. The motive is exposed as one
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: of the oldest and most cowardly catalysts for violence. Witness elimination.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Witness elimination.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: The aggressive abduction, the parking garage, the chemical torture with
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the bleach, the burn. It wasn't just about silencing her.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: It was the unrestrained rage of a predator seeking vengeance
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  Speaker 2: because his victor dared to fight back. He wanted to
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  Speaker 2: ensure she suffered for challenging his control.
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  Speaker 1: But there is a detail in this timeline that is
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  Speaker 1: deeply infuriating. It highlights a massive vulnerability in the justice system.
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  Speaker 1: When Mercedes Vega was abducted, tortured and murdered in April
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  Speaker 1: of 2023... Cujo Young was not sitting in a jail
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: cell awaiting his robbery trial. No, he wasn't. He was
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: out of custody. And he was walking around wearing a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: court-mandated ankle monitor.
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  Speaker 2: It really reveals the absolute limitations of electronic monitoring when
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: dealing with sophisticated criminal networks. An ankle monitor is designed
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: to verify geographic compliance via GPS and RF signals. It
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: ensures the wearer is at their residence during curfew hours.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't monitor their Wi-Fi router. It doesn't track
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: their credit card purchases.
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  Speaker 2: It does absolutely nothing to prevent a cartel leader from
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: using a cell phone to direct extreme violence from the
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: comfort of his living room. He essentially used his geographic
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: tether as a government-certified alibi, assuming that because his ankle
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: monitor proved he was in Tennessee, he could not be
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: tied to a murder in Arizona.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Because the robbery was just a side hustle for this guy.
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  Speaker 1: When investigators started pulling the threads on Cujo Young... they
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: uncovered an operation of massive scale. The Attorney General office
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: didn't just charge him with the murder. Young is facing
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  Speaker 1: 10 distinct charges related to operating a highly sophisticated transnational
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  Speaker 1: drug trafficking syndicate.
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  Speaker 2: He was allegedly serving as the logistical kingpin for a
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: nationwide fentanyl distribution network.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: The scope of the operation is terrifying. Authorities allege he
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: was orchestrating massive narcotics deals, dispatching co-conspirators to the Phoenix
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  Speaker 1: airport carrying literal suitcases packed with fentanyl pills.
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  Speaker 2: Suitcases?
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Suitcases. They were boarding commercial flights and transporting these massive
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  Speaker 1: quantities of lethal narcotics to major distribution hubs on the
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  Speaker 1: East Coast, specifically New York City and Atlanta.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: We're discussing an enterprise generating immense capital, armed with heavy weaponry,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: and operating with a complete disregard for human collateral. He
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: was managing a corporate structure of narcotics distribution.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: And he utilized the illicit profits and the transportation logistics
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  Speaker 1: of that massive fentanyl empire to fund a cross-country hit
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  Speaker 1: on a 22-year-old woman who simply wanted to testify against
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: him for stealing her earnings. It is a staggering abuse
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  Speaker 1: of power.
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  Speaker 2: So where do these three individuals stand today in the
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: eyes of the law?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: The judicial system is utilizing the full weight of the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: forensic evidence to seek maximum penalties. Censor Hayes, the individual
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: linked by the fragile lipid deposit on the grocery bag,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: is facing an avalanche of charges, including four counts of
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: first-degree murder, vehicle theft, armed robbery, and kidnapping. Because of
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the sheer sadistic brutality of the crime, specifically the bleach
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and the evidence of being burned alive, prosecutors have formally
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: filed notice that they intend to seek the death penalty.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And Jared Gray, the man who claimed he had never
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: been to Arizona until his fingerprint was found on a
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: plastic cup in a burned-out car.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Gray's extradition process from Georgia to Arizona is currently pending.
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  Speaker 2: The local sheriff's office is recommending severe charges, including first-degree murder, kidnapping,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: armed robbery, and theft, directly tying him to the execution
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and the subsequent arson.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: What about the kingpin? What is the status of Kujo Young?
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Young is facing recommendations for conspiracy to commit first-degree murder
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: and conspiracy to commit kidnapping. But the most telling aspect
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: of his legal predicament lies in the handling of his
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: fentanyl trafficking charges.
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  Speaker 1: How so?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Well, in massive, multi-defendant drug cases, the government frequently offers
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: plea agreements to lower-level operatives in exchange for testimony against
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the leadership. While several of Young-Elm's co-conspirators were offered deals,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the prosecution offered Cujo Young absolutely nothing.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Zero leniency. None.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: The moment prosecutors linked his drug empire to the orchestrated
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: torture and murder of Mercedes Vega, every avenue for negotiation
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: was permanently closed.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: As it absolutely should be. When you step back and
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: look at the entirety of this deep dive, it is
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: a profound testament to the relentless, microscopic pursuit of truth.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: We started in a dark parking garage, analyzing the terrifying
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: reality of forced compliance. We walked through the unbelievable complexities
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: of forensic pathology tracing lead fragmentation storms through human bone.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: And isolating the carboxyhemoglobin molecules that undeniably proved a brave
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: young woman was still fighting for breath when the fire
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: consumed her.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: And we witnessed how the tiniest biological anomalies, a microscopic
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: stamp of fatty lipids perfectly preserved on a crumpled grocery bag,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: and a fragile plastic cup shielded by the rapid thermodynamics
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: of a flash fire, became the undisputed mathematical proof that
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: dragged a nationwide syndicate out of the shadows.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: And as we close out today's deep dive, we want
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to leave you with a final thought to mull over,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: something that builds on the incredible intersection of technology and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: crime we've explored today. Consider the grand irony of the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: modern criminal syndicate.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: The irony is huge.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: The very conveniences of the modern world that allow organized
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: crime to operate with unprecedented speed and global reach. The
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: instant electronic credit transactions that fund their logistics. The commercial
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: air travel that moves hitmen and narcotics across time zones
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: in hours. The immediate cellular data networks that allow a
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: kingpin to direct violence from an armchair thousands of miles away.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: These are the exact same tools that make getting away
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: with conspiracy virtually impossible today.
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  Speaker 2: They build their entire illicit empires upon a digital web.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: But they fail to realize that the web records every
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: single vibration.
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  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. put.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: The digital infrastructure that allows a kingkin to amass power
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: is the exact same infrastructure that eventually provides the data
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to hang them.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: We started this hour talking about the pervasive myth of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the perfect crime, the Hollywood illusion that if you are
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: just smart enough, rich enough, and ruthless enough, you can
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: vanish without a trace. But between the thermodynamic anomalies, the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: microscopic lipids, and the silent pings of a cell tower,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: no one ever truly vanishes.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: The science simply won't let them. It won't.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive.
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  Speaker 1: We hope it provided you with a new perspective on
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: how human justice is achieved through scientific truth. Keep questioning
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the world around you, keep looking for the details, and
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: we will see you next time.