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Did Bombay Black Finally Leave The ’80s Behind? (2008 Archive) · Classic Metal Show

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  SPEAKER_02: Hey everyone, this is John Keeble from Warbringer, and you're watching CMS-TV.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's Bombay Black right here on your classic metal show.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's something from their latest release called Psychomagnet,
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  SPEAKER_01: and the name of that tune there is called Head Full of Hate.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Chris,
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  SPEAKER_01: believe it or not,
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  SPEAKER_01: if you had a drummer already, I'd tell you who we had on the line with us.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have the one and only Eric Johnson on the show.
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  SPEAKER_03: The Guitar Virtuoso guy?
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  SPEAKER_03: The G3 guy?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's him.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not him.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's his imposter.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the Eric Johnson that's a member of Bombay Black.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not the Eric Johnson,
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  SPEAKER_00: just a Eric Johnson.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, and we want to welcome him back to the Classic Metal Show.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, how you doing there, Eric?
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  SPEAKER_00: Beautifully.
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  SPEAKER_01: How are you guys, Ben?
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  SPEAKER_01: We're good, we're good.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're glad to see that Bombay Black is still out there doing what they do.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're not a flash in the pan, a one-and-done type of band.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is your, what, your third release now?
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  SPEAKER_00: This will be our fourth.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your fourth, huh?
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  SPEAKER_00: Third studio release, but our fourth actual release.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, well, hey, correct me if I'm wrong, and you did.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is your third studio release,
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  SPEAKER_01: Psycho Magnet, and you got to work with a big-time producer this time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we got lucky on this one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Actually,
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  SPEAKER_00: he got in touch with us,
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  SPEAKER_00: strangely enough,
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  SPEAKER_00: through MySpace,
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  SPEAKER_00: which got the ultimate indispensable pool of musicians in the 21st century, but...
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  SPEAKER_00: He emailed us and said, hey guys, you sound really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd really like to maybe do a couple of remixes for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, screw that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you just do a whole record with us?
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's take the opportunity and make use of the opportunity being presented.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we went and talked to Darth Kivel over at the Evil Kivel Empire.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's Kivel Records, by the way, in case you guys are just not too young.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you are talking about award-winning producer Bo Hill as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we talked to John, like, John, Bo wants to do a record.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like, fine, make me an album.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now he's listening and laughing his ass off.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, we called Bo, we set everything up.
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  SPEAKER_00: He flew down to Little Rock to catch one of our shows and hung out at our studio for a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we talked shop and threw some ideas around.
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  SPEAKER_00: And pretty much we cut everything in our studio.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then we'd send it to him, and he'd say, hey, this is cool, or let's try this, or what.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there was really not a whole lot of changes on his end.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think pretty much what you hear is what we came up with first go-around, generally speaking.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we got it done.
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  SPEAKER_00: He did the mixing and mastering, and now it's out.
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  SPEAKER_03: Very cool, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, Eric,
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  SPEAKER_03: obviously, man,
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  SPEAKER_03: Psycho Magnet is,
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  SPEAKER_03: at least in my ears,
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  SPEAKER_03: and tell me if I'm wrong,
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  SPEAKER_03: but it seems like it's a little bit of a departure from what you guys were doing in
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  SPEAKER_03: the past.
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  SPEAKER_03: It seemed like the previous albums had a little bit more of the 80s tinge to it,
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  SPEAKER_03: where now you guys are just really becoming more of a straight-ahead metal band.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is that how you guys see it?
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  SPEAKER_00: God, I hope so.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't get me wrong, I love my 80s, I grew up on that, but
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying not to have us pigeonholed into,
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  SPEAKER_00: oh, well, they're just trying to cop the old lady's vibe.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to be another darkness.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to have one record and nobody cares anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: I definitely want to stretch that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know that our guitar player and drummer Jim and Rob are both old school metalheads
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  SPEAKER_00: from back in the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact,
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  SPEAKER_00: sometimes we have to beat Jim with a boat paddle
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  SPEAKER_00: because he'll start copping dime bag licks right in the middle of practice.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know it would make him a lot happier if we went in that direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think eventually we'll be there, but my voice can't hold up to that kind of abuse.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's got to be on the melodic end of things.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's the one thing about this record.
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  SPEAKER_03: While you guys did seem to heavy it up a little bit,
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  SPEAKER_03: you didn't do so in the way that most bands do,
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  SPEAKER_03: where you started growling and started importing a bunch of down-tuned,
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, D-riffs instead of actually still playing.
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  SPEAKER_03: You just took the songs and made them a little bit heavier.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that really was the whole idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to have to learn how to play a seven-string if I can avoid it just
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  SPEAKER_00: because I'm set in my ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm old and stodgy.
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  SPEAKER_00: But, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: just the challenge also of learning to transpose all that stuff
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  SPEAKER_00: to make it sound heavy but playing it in different positions instead of just taking
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  SPEAKER_00: the obvious way out and retuning everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was just fun for us to try and pull that off.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the whole growling thing, I mean, if we started doing that, everybody does that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's been there, done that, it's over.
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  SPEAKER_00: For me, it's just not the way I want to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Plus, I do a lot of freelance voice work,
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  SPEAKER_00: and if I spend shows just, I mean, I'm not going to make any more money.
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  SPEAKER_00: No one's going to hire me after that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I've got to take care of my voice as best as I can.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, dude,
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  SPEAKER_03: with Psycho Magnet and with the other records,
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  SPEAKER_03: the one consistent thread is that you guys,
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  SPEAKER_03: and I'm assuming it's you,
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  SPEAKER_03: because I'm assuming you write most of the lyrics,
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  SPEAKER_03: you can't find a relationship that works to save your life, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Every single record is about awful relationships.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it makes for good music.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good point.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's an important thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: Psycho Magnet still is along that trend,
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  SPEAKER_00: but we have our first Semi-hopeful ballad, With If Only, on that album.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's that one, which has kind of a wistful tinge, but it's not totally a downer.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have Knock You Down,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I was watching Britney watch,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it just, I don't know, it hit me all of a sudden.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how it happened, but ten minutes later, the song was written.
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  SPEAKER_00: Beats me.
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  SPEAKER_00: We actually have our first party song on this record about the Shag Palace.
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  SPEAKER_00: We used to record there, and then we moved out to another place, but we still party there.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a dry county,
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  SPEAKER_00: so we all bring liquor and pot tub,
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  SPEAKER_00: disco ball, double-decker couches, full bar, and this is just a living room.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like the ultimate bachelor pad.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a very happy place, and a lot of quasi-illegal things go on there.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_00: You guys should come by sometime.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, we'd love to, especially if we can... Lots of female nudity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, we're all about the nudity.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hey, it's a two-college town.
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you expect?
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we had Bo Hill on the show here on the Classic Metal Show a couple of months ago,
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  SPEAKER_01: and he was quite a pleasant interview,
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  SPEAKER_01: and he was actually flattered that somebody asked to interview him.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, you said you recorded your stuff in your studio there and sent it to Bo,
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  SPEAKER_01: so you didn't work with him directly,
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  SPEAKER_01: or he worked with your tracks, or how did that work out?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, what we would do is we would record the basic ideas.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'd send it off to him, because really a producer's role is not to...
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  SPEAKER_00: He's kind of the director where you have
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  SPEAKER_00: He's saying what to do and supervising the thing,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then the engineer is the one who actually does the work.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's how we did that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And him and Ty had had a lot of time to talk and swap notes and compare mics
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  SPEAKER_00: and everything else.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, pretty much that's how that came together.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: in the past we've talked to,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: the way that Bo was describing it and a lot of the bands have been describing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: We speak with Steven Piercy quite often,
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  SPEAKER_01: and he gave us his lowdown about working with Bo in the past.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he said that Bo almost became the sixth member of RAT with as much input
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  SPEAKER_01: and direction as he had with the RAT sound and the RAT image and whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I was wondering if he did the same thing for recording this new Bombay Black release.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just...
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  SPEAKER_00: When he came in,
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  SPEAKER_00: we had a totally different setup as far as how we used our monitors,
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  SPEAKER_00: how we mic'd certain things,
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  SPEAKER_00: what mics we used, different techniques that we had never even thought about before.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he came and said, well, have you guys tried this?
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, it was the same old thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's saying, hey,
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  SPEAKER_00: try this,
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  SPEAKER_00: throw this in here,
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  SPEAKER_00: see if you can mix these two things together,
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  SPEAKER_00: see how that sounds, go for this tone and that kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Literally, it was directing us toward a final mix that he had in his head for us.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the end result, are you happy with it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is this the best end result that you were expecting,
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  SPEAKER_01: or did it turn out better than you had hoped, or what?
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  SPEAKER_00: I honestly did not have any preconceived notions because I didn't want
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  SPEAKER_00: to have it built up in my head one way and then see it go another and go,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's like,
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  SPEAKER_00: You know,
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  SPEAKER_00: the new Indiana Jones movie,
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  SPEAKER_00: I went in there thinking it was going to be one thing,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it went totally off kilter on something else.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when it came to this,
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  SPEAKER_00: I pretty much just sat back and said,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: Bo's going to do his thing,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I'll just unplug my brain and enjoy it for what it is,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it turned out fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking, okay, it's going to be better than before, but I love it, absolutely love it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, Eric,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: with the new record, the one thing I noticed on Psycho Magnet is you guys...
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  SPEAKER_03: Specifically yourself and Ty and what's your drummer's name?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's escaping.
• 10:36
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• 10:37
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• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: And Rob, Rob and Ty especially are much bigger in the mix and your guitars are definitely
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_03: Very loud and very boisterous.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm curious,
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  SPEAKER_03: when you're working on a project with this and you're working with a producer like
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  SPEAKER_03: that,
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  SPEAKER_03: do you go out and look for different gear or does a guy like Bo
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  SPEAKER_03: and yourselves just find new ways to present the sound that you capture from
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  SPEAKER_03: the gear that you had?
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  SPEAKER_00: Really, I think it's more the latter.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's merely just taking what we have to work with and just looking at it
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  SPEAKER_00: in different ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have very set ideas.
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  SPEAKER_00: You take this mic,
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  SPEAKER_00: you set it up in this position,
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  SPEAKER_00: and bears your sound,
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  SPEAKER_00: where Bo was coming in and saying,
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  SPEAKER_00: well, try this mic, but set it at this angle or put it at this distance.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's so many different tricks to getting the sound.
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  SPEAKER_00: Part of recording drums in particular, it's an art.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a science, it's an art.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what may look great on paper, theoretically, may not work.
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  SPEAKER_00: The end result is what comes out of those speakers.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you try some different stuff, and somehow it works.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're standing back going, I don't know why it works, but it works.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, I'll be the first one to admit to you, Eric,
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not a musician that can listen to something and tell what kind of tone you get
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  SPEAKER_03: or if you play with a certain kind of feeling or whatnot.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I was actually talking to the guys in Ronin,
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: and they were really conscious about telling me how...
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: They were using astronomy heads to get a bigger sound than they were getting in the past.
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  SPEAKER_03: I believe they worked with Black Metal Ray on their production,
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  SPEAKER_03: but overall what they were trying to say is they did experiment
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  SPEAKER_03: with some different gear just to capture different sounds,
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  SPEAKER_03: striggle pedals and astronomy heads and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: Did you guys ever consider maybe going out and trying different gear just
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  SPEAKER_03: to get different sounds, or is that maybe something that comes with a bigger budget?
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we at one point thought about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know I thought, hey, I should go pick up a Mesa or just something else to throw in the mix.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think at the end of the day,
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  SPEAKER_00: we all agreed that it would be better to work with what we have,
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  SPEAKER_00: not just from the financial standpoint,
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  SPEAKER_00: but now that we had Bo,
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  SPEAKER_00: a guy who's had the experience and the knowledge,
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  SPEAKER_00: to be able to take what we have and see how far we can push it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that way on the next album, yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm already looking at investing in a few different pieces of gear just
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  SPEAKER_00: to bring something new to the table every time we sit down to start tracking
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  SPEAKER_00: a new record.
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  SPEAKER_00: That way I always want to build on the next one,
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  SPEAKER_00: always have something new that we didn't have before.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, Eric,
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  SPEAKER_01: everybody knows who are big fans of hard rock,
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  SPEAKER_01: especially 80s hard rock,
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  SPEAKER_01: knows that Bo Hill worked most notably with Rat and Warrant.
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  SPEAKER_01: He obviously was within your price range, huh?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I wouldn't say that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you guys have to go get day jobs to pay his bill or what?
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  SPEAKER_00: Not really.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was really a partnership with the label.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think the label is really concerned that these guys really want to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we stood up and said, hell yeah, we do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can say that, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know,
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  SPEAKER_00: but we said, yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, we put up and they ponied up as well and we went after Bo, no problem.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, your label boss there, John Kivel, where has he been hiding?
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  SPEAKER_01: We haven't heard or seen from him in at least a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: He calls me about two or three times a week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he doesn't like us to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two or three times a week.
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  SPEAKER_01: I guess he doesn't like us anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I could use a break.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you want me to tell him to call you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, he just seemed to have disappeared off the map there,
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  SPEAKER_01: and both Chris and I were actually talking about him on the show a couple
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  SPEAKER_01: of weeks ago,
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  SPEAKER_01: saying we hadn't seen or heard from him in at least a year,
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  SPEAKER_01: and we were just wondering what happened to him.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm glad to hear he's alive and well.
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  SPEAKER_00: He has been pretty busy lately.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's really been trucking it.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's got several releases coming up, a couple of which we're working on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now that we got finished with ours,
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  SPEAKER_00: we're playing shows here and there,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then we're also handling a few of his new acts that he's got in.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're remixing some bands, one from Norway called Fate Circus.
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  SPEAKER_00: They just sent their stuff over, and Ty's having his way with it, and it's sounding fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he's got about three or four releases before the end of the year that are all coming out.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he's really trying to stay on top of that and make sure the deadlines get met and
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  SPEAKER_00: the artwork and everything else.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's a big guy.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, Eric,
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  SPEAKER_03: Bombay Black,
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: the one thing that I have noticed about the band,
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_03: while the U.S.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_03: market pretty much stays fickle to you guys, it really seems like you guys have...
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: You built a very solid following outside of the U.S.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: I understand you guys basically dominated when you went over to the U.K. How was that?
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: That was a lot of fun.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's always cool to be able to go to another country and play
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: for people you've never met because the nice thing, I mean, we play around here.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: I see a lot of the same faces.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: I prefer to play for new faces I haven't seen before.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: Plus, you get to play with other bands.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: You sample the cultures.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: You sample the beer.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Especially if you're our guitar player, you sample the beer.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: And just being able to play for these guys and try to present something different.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: The one thing I noticed with a lot of the bands that play these kinds of things,
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: and this is going to sound bad,
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't mean it like that, but it's like there's a set formula.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you've got your guitar player here and he plays in this little box
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: and you've got your keyboards here.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody kind of has their location on stage.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, there's some people, there's a line you don't cross.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: We use that for a lap counter.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you get up there, you raise hell.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: You've got to swing from the lights and throw confetti at people to get their attention.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: I smashed my guitar last time, which was definitely brought down the house.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: They loved that.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it's currently hanging up at the venue now, which is pretty cool.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, it's just, you get up, you put on a show.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that's really the thing.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I think in a lot of ways,
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: people don't expect you to go demolishing your gear or breathing fire
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: or whatever it is you do.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of fun to see their faces.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: we come over and we're just four rednecks and we'll destroy the stage if you give us
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: a chance.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_03: Very nice.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: Is it disappointing when you come back here after playing in front of...
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: From what I've heard anyway, I've seen shows outside the country.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's just such a different vibe, man.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: You go over there and people are thirsty for metal and hard rock.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: Then you come back here and outside of your hometown,
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: you travel 100 miles in any direction and you're fighting to get 50 people
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: to give you a chance, man.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: Is it disappointing, I guess is the word, to...
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_03: To come back to the US and have to struggle when you know that you're creating good music?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: At one point, yeah, it did get to me.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: It did bother me.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, there's the old saying, you get no respect in your hometown.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the whole reason for that was just,
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: when the music,
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: when the dominant music became hip-hop, it was not just a change in music.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was a whole change in culture.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Everything switched at that point.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: When you've got executives doing the fist tap and using all the crunk phrasing
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: and everything else, I mean, things change big.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I finally made my peace with it after a while.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: I said, you know what?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: We get up, we do what we do.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: If we blow something up in the process, so be it.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the thing is we always go out, put 120% of the show.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: At the end of the night, I'm happy.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: If we can get at least one more person there who's never seen us before
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: and they become a fan, it's worth it.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: Right, definitely.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: Now, with the U.S. shows,
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_03: I understand you guys are playing one of the bigger rock fests that's going on here
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: in the next month or so, is that correct?
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: That is true, Dakota Rock Fest, which is the weekend of July 25th and 26th.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and how'd you guys end up on that one?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: Now I've got to think about it.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, it was John Kibble who put that together for us.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: He had another one of his bands already on there,
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: and I kind of was like, hey, do you think you can get us on that?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: He made some phone calls and plays for the guy,
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: and the guy was like,
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: well, you know, you guys are coming in sort of last minute, but he heard the album.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: He said, okay, fine, you're in.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: You're in.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, John's an influential guy
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: that way.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, John's a very influential guy that way, so it doesn't surprise me at all.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: He knows how to pull those strings.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Chirp, chirp, no comment.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Eric.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: I do not speak of the dark in those terms.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Eric,
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: why don't you give us the website there where people can find out
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: about Bombay Black.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Best bet is www.myspace.com slash BombayBlack.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds good.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: And people can see you where this summer?
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Just that Rockfest so far?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: No tour plans yet?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: We will be at O'Reilly's in Dallas on July 5th.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: We'll be in Little Rock at the warehouse with some other great local acts,
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Land of Mines and Wishtribe.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: On July 12th,
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: July 25th and 26th is Dakota Rock Fest,
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: and then we'll be back in Little Rock at West End Smokehouse on August 2nd.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent, excellent.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Eric,
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: we appreciate you taking a little bit of time to talk to us here on
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: the Classic Metal Show.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Go visit Bombay Black at their MySpace, myspace.com slash Bombay Black.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Go pick up their new CD, which is entitled Psycho Magnet.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: Is that it there,
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Eric?
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's all for me.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: I hope you all enjoy it and appreciate the time.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we always let the artists pick a closing song here,
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: so why don't you pick a song off the new CD and maybe tell us a quick story
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: about it.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'd have to go with SFCR.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: SFCR stands for South Faulkner County Resistance,
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: but we say blind because we couldn't make resistance rhyme.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: But basically,
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: it's about our party house in Conway,
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: and in particular,
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: one little incident involving a guy,
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: a girl playing strip pool, and then the sex that ensued afterward.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Which was caught on tape, still cameras.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think the guy sketched it out with pen and ink.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, it was happening.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Let's remember the moment.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: And this is normal.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: This just happens there all the time.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: No big deal.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent, Eric.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, go pick up the new Bombay Black Psycho Magnet.
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