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- Mark Hayes (00:01.645) All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Another exciting edition of Two Men in Black and White, an Honest Conversation. All right, let's get right to it. New York football is entrenched in racism. OK, so out of 106 players, maybe 20 of them are Caucasian. The rest, African-American and other. And the stars on both teams, arguably could be said, are all African-Americans. All right, let's take a closer look. at why the blowback against Jackson Dart is so consequential and why it needs to be addressed. Brock and Ellis joins me now from the beautiful confines of the Upper Hudson River Valley. Brock, I am pissed off. I've been a giant fan. My dad's been taking me to the giant games since they played at the Yale Bowl. Okay, that's before Joe Prusarchik and the Fumble. That's before Giant Stadium was even built. And Rocky Thompson and those guys. I've been a Giant fan since then. I am no longer a Giant fan. First of all, to say, crap, right? Then you gave away Dexter Lawrence. Now you're allowing your racism to show, right? The Mara family might as well get in bed with Trump as well. Here's the thing, Jackson Dart introduced the president. And they want to act like it's no big deal. Here is a president who has done nothing really well except put his foot on the neck of Black America. And it's not supposed to be an issue in the locker room? Get the fuck out of here. Brock Ganeles (01:53.401) Was that the handoff to me? I was just surprised when the story hit. I knew Trump was in town. He was in Suffern, New York, which is in Rockland County, maybe an hour and 15 minutes south to me. I was already ready to hit you up with the fact that Mike Lawler was riding on Trump's coattails to try to win with district. You know, my favorite Republican who says he's a moderate, but he's right there with Trump. Mark Hayes (01:53.804) Yeah. Mark Hayes (02:15.647) Catch that. Mark Hayes (02:20.894) He's not. Brock Ganeles (02:22.048) in front of the MAGA crowd, not realizing that the New York Giants quarterback had done the introduction. The New York Giants quarterback from the University of Mississippi. Mark Hayes (02:30.292) Right. Mark Hayes (02:35.447) Ole Miss! Brock Ganeles (02:37.266) all missed with their Confederate flag that Lane Kiffin now has stepped away from now these in LSU had done the introduction. So let's just go through the thought process. Mark Hayes (02:50.175) There was none, but go ahead. Brock Ganeles (02:52.606) Okay, you're about to go on your second year as a quarterback of the Giants. White guy, quarterback should be the leader of the locker room. That's part of the job. That's why their average salary is like $40 million a year, because it's a hard job to be a good quarterback and it's a leadership job. So you're sitting there going, Mark Hayes (03:12.008) Right. Brock Ganeles (03:22.206) I want to go introduce Donald Trump at one of these racist MAGA rallies for the reason of what promoting myself as a MAGA athlete announcing to the world that I'm a part of the white supremacy movement. What exactly is Jackson Dard trying to get out of this public political? Mark Hayes (03:32.492) Boom. Brock Ganeles (03:51.979) step out into the world. I don't understand it from a sports point of view. Now he'll never be a leader in a locker room of black men. Mark Hayes (04:01.223) ever. But here's the bigger point though, Brock. He's not going to be marketable in New York. Read the room, dude. New York, New Jersey, Connecticut. Blue, blue, blue. Here's how uninformed Jackson Dart is. He tried to start the rally yesterday by saying, big blue in a room full of Republicans. Did he not think? Brock Ganeles (04:02.441) Ever. Mark Hayes (04:28.767) that the chant was going to be scammed. There was no chant for Big Blue. Duh, it's Big Red in that room. You're never going to get him to say, Big Blue. That's how uninformed he was. The second point is his marketability is now gone, shot. He's going to be getting booed at MetLife. The season is falling apart already, and it hasn't even started yet. Hey. We know Harbaugh, the new coach, is a Trumpster. But hey, he's not going out introducing Trump at racist rallies. I'm okay with that. Brock Ganeles (05:05.112) Do you think Harbaugh knew that Jackson Dart was going to introduce Trump? Or do think he was blindsided by it? Mark Hayes (05:10.747) Absolutely not. I think he was blindsided by it because I Harbaugh is smart enough to know you can't be a leader of men, especially Black men, when you ascribe to Trump's theories and policies and his fandom. If you're a fan of Donald Trump, you can't be a fan of me as a Black American. Brock Ganeles (05:36.216) Do think that you think giant owners knew that Jackson Guard was going to do this? The people paying his paycheck? Mark Hayes (05:40.798) Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. And I don't think they know. Brock Ganeles (05:44.579) But one of the owners is that part of the Giants ownership is the Tisch family. One of the senior members of the family, think it's Steve Tisch, has come up in the Epstein files. The NFL has an official quote investigation into it, which means they aren't going to do shit, but they want him to quietly step away because they don't want the Epstein files tanking their beloved NFL. So Giants ownership. Mark Hayes (05:50.684) Right. Mark Hayes (06:01.894) Allegedly. Right. Brock Ganeles (06:14.258) is already in a mess, a MAGA mess, because Epstein is a MAGA file. So they have that problem to deal with. Now they have their quarterback waving his fucking Confederate flag in New York State. Mark Hayes (06:29.35) in New York State, right? And New Jersey. Remember, we got just as many fans coming from Jersey as we do. I mean, it's the tri-state team, just like the Jets. We'll get to them in a minute. But here's the thing, bro. First of all, you're Jackson Dart. You're not Tom Brady, right? You don't have the kind of cachet of being a 15-year veteran with multiple Super Bowls. You had an OK season last year. I don't even know why we didn't draft another quarterback to try to take you out. You're not even the answer. Brock Ganeles (07:08.632) but Brady's mag also, but he had the red hat, but even he read the room and kind of tucked that shit away and put that on the back burner and stepped away from it like, whoa, this is toxic. I don't want to be associated with that. So. Mark Hayes (07:10.911) Yeah, he's mega. Mark Hayes (07:18.79) Yes he did. Sure enough. Mark Hayes (07:27.903) Because he'd rather win. He'd rather win than be associated with Trump. Brock Ganeles (07:35.054) Yeah, this is, I mean, people, viewers may be like, what the fuck? Why these guys making such a big deal of this? But you know, I believe that the NFL is an absolute mirror and a microcosm of American society. It's the all white ownership that hires all white management and has all white coaches and a majority of black labor. Mark Hayes (07:50.203) Yes! Mark Hayes (07:55.94) All White Coaches. Mark Hayes (08:03.121) Yup. Brock Ganeles (08:03.949) Basically, and that's what Sundays and now Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays are in America is to watch that product and that product is always protecting its very very right wing oriented ethos Flyovers from the military Colin Kaepernick better not kneel because that you know brings a wrong light on the league so Colin Kaepernick can't Mark Hayes (08:13.116) Yep. Mark Hayes (08:19.851) Yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (08:32.545) kneel in protest against police brutality. He has to be blackballed from the league, but Jackson Dart can introduce a white supremacist president and be a part of the MAGA movement. Mark Hayes (08:38.321) Yep. Mark Hayes (08:45.371) Right. And Brock, think about January 6th and the absolute diametrically opposed action of Colin Kaepernick. Police brutality against lawmakers. They were trying to kill Mike Pence. And some of them, some of the January Sixers, police officers, firefighters, attorneys. We have people from every walk of life in that January 6 crowd, all kinds of public servants. But Colin Kaepernick can't play anymore because the 32 white guys that own the team say, no, no, no, we back the blue. Which blue? The blue from the MAGA side or the blue on the side trying to save the vice president who was a MAGA guy. Right? So, I mean, we look at that dichotomy and then we look at the backlash, right? You've got people saying, know, Jackson Dard is a patriot. He didn't do anything wrong. He introduced the president. He introduced a president that is the most racist, a pedophile, and a court-adjudicated sexual predator. This is the president that you get behind. This is the president that it's okay to endorse. Donald Trump has done one thing very well. Like I said, keep his foot on the neck of Black America. Look at all the high ranking African Americans that were fired in this administration. Look at all the African Americans fired from the federal government by the Dogey Bros and the Muskrats. Look at all the African-Americans who lost millions and millions of dollars in government contracts because Donald Trump decided the black firms weren't going to get any more government business. And it's OK to say I ascribe to those policies. I'm good with these. And then come into an all-black workplace. You think you're not going to get some lookout blocks? Look out, Jackson. Mark Hayes (11:11.932) That middle linebacker's coming. Brock Ganeles (11:14.649) He's walking into an all black locker room, not an all black workplace because the management is going to be all white guys who are going to give him a pass and probably many of them agree with him. What I found interesting about this scenario is that a high profile teammate, black teammate has already come out and criticized Jackson Dart for being Mark Hayes (11:20.975) Right. Damn right. Brock Ganeles (11:43.942) at Trump rally and introducing Trump. And he's come out and said a basely done a what the fuck are you doing there? Which has led to a counter backlash against the other defensive star named Abdul Carter for criticizing Jackson for being there. Mark Hayes (11:47.952) Damn right. Mark Hayes (12:03.815) Right. Brock, make it make sense. Brock, please tell me this is not what's good for the goose is not good for the gander. Because Abdul Carter is wrong for saying this ain't right. But Jackson Dart is fully within his white privilege to go out here and do and say whatever he wants. Right now we have to ask Abdul Carter, right? Why would you criticize a teammate? Hold it. Why aren't we asking Jackson Dart? Why is he supporting an avowed racist? Why is he supporting the guy whose family was found liable for redlining and keeping housing opportunities away from Black Americans? They put a C for colored on their applications. That was a policy of the Trumps. Fred et al. Like, why are you supporting this? How come we don't have to ask him that? How come we don't need to know what, in fact, is the issue with Jackson Dart? Jackson, your racism is showing. Jackson, you came from Ole Miss. Jackson, read the room. Jackson, ask a marketing professional, should I attend this rally? Maybe he thought we weren't old enough to remember when Trump had those racist rallies where he talked about, back in my day, a guy like that. You know, we would have beat the hell out of him. Remember the video that came up that somebody brilliantly put together when the old white dude punched the young African-American woman in the face, and then they put the fire hose video on, and then they show people attacking African-Americans at the Trump rally. I mean, dude, is hypocrisy at its best. Jackson Dart. Mark Hayes (14:05.944) is going to find out what it's like to be under the glare of the media spotlight of the biggest market in the league. Brock Ganeles (14:15.811) But Jackson Dart also, first off, he didn't just attend. He played the fucking keynote introducer, right? He played a prominent role at the rally. Second of all, hopefully he's going to learn that two thirds of the company that disapproved, two thirds of the country that disapproves of Donald Trump disapproves of fucking Jackson Dart's political leanings. And it's not going to prevent him. Mark Hayes (14:22.768) Yep. Yep. Mark Hayes (14:41.633) Yep. Yep. Brock Ganeles (14:44.761) from having employment as an NFL quarterback if he is good enough. But part of being good enough is being a leader of other men. And if your statement is, I'm on board with the white supremacy movement, I'm racist. How are you gonna lead a unit that's 75 % black? Mark Hayes (15:03.987) Yep. Mark Hayes (15:11.622) Right. Tara Setmire, a known former Republican, turned independent and media personality. What the actual fuck? What a betrayal. How do I cheer for this guy now? my God, signed a pissed off Giants fan. What actually happened to this guy? PR nightmare. Divided half his fan base in an instant. Very dumb. Supporting a corrupt fascist pedophile protector? doesn't reflect well on him. See what all those hits to the head can do to a person? Gift. And I think I'm a little concussed. Damn, Jackson Dart likes football and pedophiles. That's just some of the comments. Brock Ganeles (15:56.334) He didn't, but Jackson's art didn't change. He came from the South. went to you from the, from the University of Mississippi. He's lived in, he, I don't know where he's from. He lived in the Northeast one year of his life. Mark Hayes (16:03.555) No, any from Utah? Mark Hayes (16:08.675) Yep. Yep. Brock Ganeles (16:12.941) you know, primarily in sort of a bubble of home to work to the facility and back. And this is who he is. So he's just, he's just letting us know who he is. And now we know now that we've seen it, we can't unsee it. Right. So now we know who he is. He's on board with the white supremacy movement. He's a part of that. And Mark Hayes (16:19.325) Right. Right. Right. Mark Hayes (16:27.434) Exactly, exactly. And he thinks it doesn't matter. Yep. Brock Ganeles (16:42.103) Now he's just decided to let the chips fall where they may. It was important for him to express his political outlook. It's what he was doing. He was expressing his political and societal outlook on this country and who should be running shit and what the social hierarchy of America should be and who should have certain rights and who shouldn't. Mark Hayes (16:50.157) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (16:56.908) Yep. Mark Hayes (17:02.531) Yep. Brock Ganeles (17:11.321) He was expressing that front and center proudly. So now we know, okay. I don't begrudge him that everyone should be able to express their political leanings, but then come the consequences. Mark Hayes (17:15.438) Yeah. Mark Hayes (17:24.76) There are consequences. Yep. And here's the thing too, Brock. You know, the jets are not totally clean here either in the Northeast, right? With Woody Johnson and his affiliation to Trump. I mean, that is a bad look. And Woody Johnson showed up in hard knocks with this chain that said Woody on it. Brock Ganeles (17:38.041) Brady Johnson. Mark Hayes (17:55.382) Right? Like you see a lot of the young guys wear this guy's what in his 70s 80s and he's wearing like one of these hip hop chains. Are you trolling black America? that's right. We forgot you're a fucking card carrying racist and you look at these players. Yes. Brock Ganeles (18:13.881) Yeah, major Trump support, major Trump and his MAGA supporter. In fact, he was the, I think he was the ambassador to the UK for like Trump's first term. I mean, he was totally in bed and on board, cutting checks left and right. Mark Hayes (18:20.023) He's an ambassador. Yeah. Right, On board. Yep. And loved every minute of it. Loved every minute of it because he looks at his players as property, right? Kind of like the slave master did, right? Looks at them as bucks, right? Why do you think we can never get a settlement done with the players union to to get the proper healthcare that these players deserve after they get all hacked up for 10, 11, 12 years, for four years, three years, doesn't matter. After they get all hacked up, they got to fend for themselves. And a lot of times they're not able to. Brock Ganeles (19:09.817) owners don't give a f**k the owners don't give a f**k about them. They're interchangeable parts that come and go and get play, get their bodies destroyed for our entertainment and then get pushed along and then there's a new player coming in, which ties in to the NAACP's call for black athletes not to play for Southern schools and change the quote economic and power dynamic in college sports. Mark Hayes (19:09.933) You know, they don't give a fuck. No. Mark Hayes (19:33.324) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (19:38.298) take their money and their their paychecks in from schools in states that will support their rights as human beings and don't don't choose to be property. High paid high pay at least paid property better than it used to be. So the property of racist apartheid in essence apartheid states, which is what the South is really trying to. Mark Hayes (19:42.957) So. Mark Hayes (19:52.823) Yep. Rock. Mark Hayes (20:04.598) Right. Brock Ganeles (20:07.341) to become again. Mark Hayes (20:08.858) Absolutely. And Brock, minutes after Jackson Dart introduced Chido Mussolini, he called millions of Americans dumb. That's the guy you're cosigning for. I don't know if he stuck around for the speech. I'm sure he did to take pictures and everything, just like Drew Brees did. Drew Brees got on a private jet with the Trumpster. Luckily it was it flew under the radar, pardon the pun, but Drew Brees and his wife on a plane with Trump and Melania. I don't fuck with Drew Brees anymore. You know, I can't stand the sight of the guy because I know what his politics are, right? And there's no good, there's no good people on both sides anymore. There's only good people on one side. And I don't give a fuck if you think I'm crazy for saying that. Brock Ganeles (21:04.985) This ties into why there was and has been so much criticism of Kevin Hart and other black celebrities who were at his roast the other night when they in essence allowed that white comedian to tell racist jokes. And I saw a lot of criticism because my feed now skews multicultural and multiracial. And I saw a lot of people in the black community criticizing Kevin Hart. Mark Hayes (21:16.202) Yep. Mark Hayes (21:21.558) Yep. Mark Hayes (21:31.734) Kevin Hart. Brock Ganeles (21:34.494) and others in that room saying, hey, don't allow that white community to be in the room and denigrate you in that way just because you're getting a paycheck. You know, we need you to stand up for the people that don't have the platform that you have. And if you sit there idly by and laugh along with the racist jokes about George Floyd, you're not representing the community anymore. Mark Hayes (21:34.698) Yep. Mark Hayes (21:39.586) Thank especially black women. Mark Hayes (21:52.406) Yup. Mark Hayes (21:59.989) You're complicit, right? You're complicit. Brock Ganeles (22:08.395) It all ties together. Mark Hayes (22:08.577) Yeah, it all ties together. Kevin Hart is getting major blowback. Chelsea Handler getting major props for standing up for Black women. Why does it take a white Jewish woman to stand up for Black women? Kevin Hart was already in trouble because of the Diddy Hole mess, and he skated away from that. He was already in trouble with the Black community because of the Kat Williams allegations. Now, Kat and Kevin Hart supposedly buried the hatchet on the roast, but nonetheless, the allegations were made. Nonetheless, the allegations were made that Kevin Hart is simply a minstrel for white America's entertainment. And so, again, more hypocrisy, more racism. How are we supposed to laugh at those? They made fun of Cheryl Underwood's husband committing suicide. I don't know if you know who Cheryl Underwood is, a very funny comedian, female, black female comedian. She was on The Chew with Les Moonves' wife, and I can't remember her name, but it was with Ozzy Osbourne's wife, Cheryl Underwood, and a couple of other well-known names on The Chew on CBS. I don't think it's on anymore, but Sheryl Underwood was a mainstay on that show. Very funny lady. They made fun of her husband committing suicide. When is that ever funny? I don't care if the guy's been dead 60 years. It ain't funny that he took his own life because mental health is nothing to laugh at in this country. Mental health is going to be the death of this country because we have nowhere to turn to, right? If you don't have insurance, you can't pay. for mental health services. It's $200 an hour. Who can afford that? Maybe they can afford one session. One session ain't gonna help you. It ain't gonna get you on the road back to feeling good. Brock Ganeles (24:18.369) Mark, this gets us back to just the whole point that every little thing matters. And I get it. The Kevin Hartz of the world can get swept up into, in essence, the white economic world where they're getting paid and fed by the white owners of the white of the platforms and making this great living for themselves. And maybe they're elevating Mark Hayes (24:26.666) Yep. Mark Hayes (24:35.507) Yep. Mark Hayes (24:44.128) Thank Brock Ganeles (24:47.917) their friends and other business associates with them, which is great for them and a great thing. But then they start losing sight of the broader picture of what's going on with the everybody. And they miss the point, which is why we rarely get leadership from that type of individual and why it has to come up. Mark Hayes (24:59.021) Yep. Mark Hayes (25:02.52) Yup. Brock Ganeles (25:14.681) kind of from the grassroots and generally from people that aren't of great means and wealth become the greatest leaders because you still remember and connect to the plate of the everybody. Mark Hayes (25:24.337) Right. Mark Hayes (25:30.587) Right. Brock, it's the least among us, right? You're only as strong as your weakest link. We're not doing anything to help this society keep up with the rest of the world. Brock, we're behind on everything. Brock Ganeles (25:48.057) and we're walking backwards. Mark Hayes (25:50.962) and sinking. We're behind and sinking lower every day that Trump is in charge. Every day that Linda McMahon is at the helm of the Department of Education is a day lost for us to turn around and try to ride the ship. You know, yeah, I mean, there's less learning, there's less emphasis on expertise, there's less emphasis on medical advancements, on advancements anywhere except Brock Ganeles (26:07.885) Yeah, that's right. Mark Hayes (26:23.607) AI. Wouldn't you know it? The things that these people can make a whole bunch of money at, there's a whole lot of investment in that, but only for a few. Did you see the fact that college enrollment is down? People aren't going to college anymore. College is the biggest scam going right now. Why are you going to spend $70,000 when you can get on Chad GPT and start your own business at 18 at a day? You can form your own LLC. Brock Ganeles (26:40.473) Too expensive. Too expensive. Mark Hayes (26:51.165) Whatever you want, why would you spend a hundred thousand dollars a year to get an Ivy League education when you don't have to? Brock Ganeles (26:58.595) Yeah, it's a shame because, you know, liberal arts education teach you how to think about the world and think outside of yourself, which is sorely lacking in America. People thinking outside of themselves, right? In engineering education, teach people to really create and build shit and make shit right. You know, so college has a value. And plus at college, if you go to one that's outside of a Mark Hayes (27:13.373) Right. Brock Ganeles (27:27.789) five mile radius from your house, you tend to meet and get introduced to people that are different than you, think different than you, were raised different than you, and you start to learn that there's a world beyond yours and it opens up your mind. So it's a loss for America if less students go to college. But we made it too expensive. We made it for the elites only. Mark Hayes (27:35.145) Right. Mark Hayes (27:48.636) Yep. Yep. Yep. All right, quick hit me. What do you got? Brock Ganeles (27:57.246) you know, I was going to talk about Jackson Tharp, but I'm going to do an RIP. And my RIP is for Rob Bass, who passed away yesterday. And for anyone who grew up in the 80s and lived in the 90s, I think it's when his iconic, one of the great dance tunes of all time, it takes two to make it right, to make a thing go right. Mark Hayes (28:20.744) Yep. Brock Ganeles (28:23.471) my god, that was talk about a song of the 90s of my early 20s was Rob Bates. takes two. Gone too soon. Gone too soon. Mark Hayes (28:32.662) And yeah, man, was, was, man, I was living in DC when that song came out and you could hear it in the club all night over and over again. It was one of the just great dance tunes of all time. Amra Basin, I came to get down. And, you know, it's interesting how music brings people together. And Brock Ganeles (28:51.233) I wanna rock right now. Brock Ganeles (28:59.673) I'm a white guy, love it. And I know I'm not internationally known, but I'm going on the microphone. For 30 years later, I can still recite it. mean, yes, it's amazing how it can bring cultures and everyone together because a good song's a good fucking song, right? Mark Hayes (29:03.902) But I'm known to Michael by your phone. Exactly. Mark Hayes (29:17.563) Because it's the soundtrack It's a great fucking song and it's the soundtrack of a great time in our lives, right? Early 20s late teens had a little bit of money, but no responsibility It didn't get any better than that and great music only added to it. So yeah, definitely our IP Rob base All right, my my quick hit is over Jackson Dart. Abdul Carter, Abdul Carter is a Muslim. His family attended the NFL draft in full Muslim gear. The ladies had on the burkas. And he was wearing a chain that a lot is being made of on social media now. But the chain said, incredible on it, which is his nickname. So when you see the racism in the comments, please Google it. Find out what it is, get a closer look at it, and then argue back to the MAGA racists because all their racism is showing. Lawrence Tynes, the punter, is going to criticize Abdul Carter but not criticize Jackson Dart. Your racism is showing. What say you, Brock? Brock Ganeles (30:32.173) mean, first of all, you told me earlier that Woody Johnson was wearing a similar necklace than said Woody. At end of the day, mean, we just had a mosque shot up in San Diego, right? The Islamophobia in America runs way too deep and leads to a lot of violence. It's sad, right? There's a lot of antisense. We're fucked up. We don't... Mark Hayes (30:45.179) Right, right. Insane. Brock Ganeles (30:57.869) We don't embrace America as a multicultural society as we should. We've had an enormous amount of black athletes that were Muslim, Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar come to mind, right? They're not the enemies of the people. actually, I walk away commending Abdul-Carter for coming out and saying something about what Jackson Dhar did. But yeah, we know, we know from doing our little show that anything you say, Mark Hayes (31:10.417) Hello. Mark Hayes (31:20.955) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (31:25.955) can trigger MAGA world and they come with the hate and the vitriol because they, the shit is theirs and they're violent and they're a problem and we just have to remember that two thirds of us don't think that way and we have to pony up and fucking take back our country. Mark Hayes (31:46.423) Absolutely. One more quick hit from me, Stephen Colbert, saying goodbye. The end of late night talk shows may be near. I don't know what's next for Stephen Colbert, but I can't wait. He's an absolutely amazing talent. I don't care where he broadcasts from next, I'm watching. So, you know, he'll be able to, you know, let the advertisers know that I'm going to be with him. He can go mainstream with the advertisers. Car, soft drink. What's the other jewel of the advertising dollar? Cars, soft drink. Jerry Maguire, we came to play. But Stephen Maguire will be missed. If you didn't catch John Stewart's interview with Stephen Colbert supporting his friend, Brock Ganeles (32:26.361) I can't remember. We gotta go back to Regina King and Jerry Maguire. Mark Hayes (32:42.49) Go check that out. It's a must see. What say you? Brock Ganeles (32:45.689) You know, Colbert really, after he spun out from John Stewart's show, made the Stephen Colbert show was him being like a mock right wing commentator, right? He was like a fake right wing guy showing the comedy and the buffoonery of the methodology of the right wing. And so I just find he made that transition from that, from being that guy who mocked the right wing. Mark Hayes (32:56.948) Right, right. Mark Hayes (33:07.045) Right. Brock Ganeles (33:13.613) to sort of mainstream fame. Yeah, he's got a lot of it. He'll have a lot on his plate. He did a phenomenal job. And I hope it buries CBS that they got rid of them. Right? but authoritarians fear comedy. They fear being poked fun at because that takes away their power. Colbert was great at it. Mark Hayes (33:24.477) Yeah, it's it. Mark Hayes (33:29.008) Yes. Yep. Yep. The best. All right, buddy, you got another one for me? All right. Rack it up and do it again tomorrow. All right, buddy. Peace. Revolution. Brock Ganeles (33:38.553) All right, no, I'm all set. Always a pleasure, Mark. Okay, peace.