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Star Trek is Woke AF! Gene Roddenberry, Eugenics, Tom and the Council of Nine - Ministry X - 043 · Ministry X

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  Speaker 2: I have a hunch, it's just fun that we are
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  about to face a menace more terrifying and the flying
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  parasites of Ingram v more insidious, more insidious than the
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  sand bats of men aren't four more blood thirsty than
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  the vampire clouds of August ten.
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  Speaker 3: I have a hunch, missus Spock, that.
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  Speaker 2: We are about to face something deadlier than the Romulans,
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  the Klingons, and the Gorns all rolled into one.
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  Speaker 3: There's a great captain.
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  Speaker 4: Computer has identified the alien vessel as a nineteen sixty
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  eight Chrysler Imperial with a tinted windshield and retractable headlights.
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  Speaker 3: And the blue and orange shummers.
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  Speaker 4: That's called a California license plate, and it's registered, or
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  it was in nineteen sixty eight to a corporation known
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  as NBC.
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  Speaker 5: Wait a minute, there's something more.
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  Speaker 4: Computer isn't sure, but it thinks this NBC used to
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  manufacture cookies.
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  Speaker 2: That could that be some sort of illusion, missus flocking
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  no illusion, Captain.
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  Speaker 4: Scanner readings indicate two life forms.
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  Speaker 3: Inside this bread.
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  Speaker 5: This is still don't increase me to.
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  Speaker 6: What factor eight?
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  Speaker 3: Sir?
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  Speaker 5: That's only four one three martin sat ship can't take it.
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  Speaker 3: You heard my order.
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  Speaker 6: It's food I.
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  Speaker 5: Brand. This is the Captain whole stop entering off stop, sir.
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  Speaker 4: Stas according to these coordinates, we have traveled seven thousand light.
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  Speaker 1: Years and are located near the system shape of five.
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  Speaker 2: Travel time to the nearest start of it a.
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  Speaker 5: Match four two years, seven months, three days, eighteen hours,
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  we would reach star days from one to eighty five.
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  Speaker 3: Why why why do you give.
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  Speaker 5: You a taste the preview of things.
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  Speaker 3: To go by me?
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  Speaker 5: So get me down. The whole is rented the orchestrating game.
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  It's now time to see if you'dad.
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  Speaker 7: Do not let you off.
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  Speaker 6: Try you believe in God?
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  Speaker 5: I believe also in me.
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  Speaker 6: People.
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  Speaker 7: My father's house does many things.
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  Speaker 6: If that would that?
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  Speaker 7: So would I have told you that I am going
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  there to prepare a place. And if I go and
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  prepare a place for you. I will come back and
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  take you to be with me.
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  Speaker 4: When I him.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm right. I'm Christopher Pike. My world is called Earth,
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  and though it's far from here, my people in yours
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  are very much alike. This is my world, but we.
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  Speaker 8: Were not always feasible.
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  Speaker 3: This is Oarth in our twenty first century, before everything
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  went wrong. It's a lot like you were world today.
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  Speaker 8: Recently I was treated to a glimpse of my future.
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  It's not all I had hoped. After all, what good
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  is there a knowing your future? A friend of mine
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  asked me that recently and didn't understand what he meant
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  until now I've seen my future. Let me show you yours.
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  Our conflict also started with a fight for freedoms. We
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  called it this Second Civil War, then the Eugenics.
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  Speaker 3: War, and finally just World War three.
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  Speaker 8: This was our last day, the day the Earth who
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  cease to exist began as an eruption in one nation,
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  ended in the eradication of six hundred thousand species of
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  animals and plants and thirty percent of verse population, global suicide.
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  Speaker 3: What we gave you.
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  Speaker 8: Is the means to exterminate yourselves, and from the looks
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  of you.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna do it.
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  Speaker 8: You will use competing ideas of liberty to bomb each other,
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  to ruble, just like we did, and then your last
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  day will legislate this. Perhaps somewhere all your ends are
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  written as indelibly as mine, But I choose to believe
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  that your destinies are still your own. Maybe that's why
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  I'm here to remind you of.
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  Speaker 3: The power of possibility.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe that's the good and seeing my future that I
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  might remind you that, right up into the very end,
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  life is to be worn gloriously because till our last moment,
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  the future is what we make it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's a very touching some touching remarks from Captain
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  The nephyl Bigfoot, some people believe those are the same thing,
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  the nephylm the giants. I guess there's still some out
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  there in the quiet, remote, lightly trodden forests. They watch,
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  they bang on trees. Or maybe Bigfoot are the descendants
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  of Kane or Esau. They live in caves in Afghanistan
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  and in certain UFO cases, Bigfoot is seen along with
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  alien beings piloting the spacecraft. Even there is interdimensional Bigfoot
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  and interdimensional ultraterrestrials, extraterrestrials. It's all strange and it's all fringe,
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  and I think they use the same portals. And it
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  may be that in fact, what we are witnessing, what
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  is being reported what is being observed, what is being experienced,
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  what is being described, what is being photographed, are in
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  fact spot the physical effects of interdimensional travel beyond the
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  scope of time itself. You see, this podcast is not
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  just about UFOs. It's not just about ministry either, ministry
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  on the fringes of the Internet. It's not just about
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  alien visitors in the Bible. It's about the fringes of
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  human consciousness. We seek to answer the question who are
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  the overlords of the UFO? Now, that was a question
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  proposed by a rather hilarious documentary from nineteen Excuse Me
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  nineteen seventy six, which attempts to connect anecdote total UFO
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  evidence to an alien liaison from the planet Umo, which
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  was later exposed as a hoax. But here in this
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  documentary they defend the etch the extraterrestrial hypothesis, And here
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  on this podcast I like to expose hoaxes and frauds
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  for what they are, mind control, the machinations of occult operators,
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  maybe phones. If we use the enterprise to not only
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  seek out new worlds like the Mormons, but rather to
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  explode the center of the human mind, the spirit and
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  less civilized times bones, perhaps we can use the ancient text,
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  the Holy scriptures themselves to convince these primitive people that
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  there's a God greater than the overlords of the Ufo,
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  a God greater than their God of fortresses. It would appear, Captain,
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  our little star trek has become a star mission. What
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  would you know about God? All you know is your
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  cold blooded Vulcan logic. You assume that God is not
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  a logical being. Doctor, What I assume is that you
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  wouldn't recognize God if he came up and bit you
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  on the nose. And may I remind you, doctor mccorney,
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  Vulcans are, in fact a warm blooded species could have
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  fold me, gentlemen, let's not make fun of the Jews.
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  Jesus was a Jew after all. And by the way,
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  much of Starfleet technology is based on Nazi blueprints we
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  received in nineteen forty eight Sulu time to arrival at
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  Marduke six approximately one point seventy five hours, Captain, Well, gentlemen,
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  it appears we have a moment to conduct a little
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  Bible study. Join me, won't you? Computer begin read back
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  of the Book of Daniel from the Bible septuagen version Earth,
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  including Bell and the Dragon searching, but Captain Bell and
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  the Dragon was removed from later versions of Daniel. I'm
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  aware of that, mister Sulu. Computer proceed with playback in
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  the third year of.
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  Speaker 7: The reign of Joig, King of Jutor Jame Nipercognasa, King
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  of Babylon, unto Jerusalem.
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  Speaker 5: Unpresieged computer pause playback. We're not gonna get into the
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  Book of Daniel too much today, But I was looking
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  at Bell and the Dragon and contemplating why this is
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  left out of the Protestant Bible. But that's sort of
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  that's adjacent to today's discussion. Do you think space is
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  the final frontier? Or is the final frontier within our
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  inner tabernacle where we have communion with our Lord and savior.
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  And Star Trek was known to reflect on many spiritual
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  issues along with the warnings about the misuse of technology
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  and some of the developments in world affairs that were
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  projected for the mid to late nineties and heading into
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  the early twenty first century. We've already surpassed that point
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  on the timeline on the fictional Star Trek timeline. Now,
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  I will agree that space is real. I do believe
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  we've been to space, but I don't necessarily think space
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  is the final frontier. So, like I mentioned, I have
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  been going through Strange New Worlds, which is the latest
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  Star Trek series. Maybe it's not the latest. I think
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  there's one a couple that have come since then, not
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  including the animated I know there's Star Trek Lower Decks.
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  But like every other one of these sci fi franchises,
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  they're slowly getting ruined. Of course, woke is dead, but
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  woke is being dragged out of Hollywood and the entertainment
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  industry kicking and screaming, and New Worlds is sort of
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  splits the difference. It's it's a little woke, but maybe
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  not as woke as prior Star Trek incarnations other series films.
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  So in the intro, you heard Captain Pike. They're played
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  by Anson mount.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: He may first contact with an alien species called the Kailians,
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  who have, instead of developing a warp drive, have instead
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  developed a warp bomb. And here we have the intervention
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  of the aliens. In this case, the aliens are human
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  beings and the Kailians represent human beings at the onset
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  of the atomic age, And this sort of parallels the
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  apparent interest of extraterrestrials in human beings, development of nuclear technology,
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  because technology, the idea is technology can be dangerous, and
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  in the Christian worldview, or at least the fringe Christian worldview,
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  technology is something that originates with the fallen Angels and
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  the partnerships they formed with early man before the flood.
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  And how that information, that knowledge, that nosis came through
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  the flood on the other side and influences our technological
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  advancements today. So in the story, somehow the Federation has
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  inadvertently assisted in the development of this technology. So now
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  on the timeline, this is Captain Pike. Now I didn't
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  check the star date in the log in the Captain,
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  but Captain Pike was the original captain of the Enterprise
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  before Kirk took over. So this series is roughly simultaneous
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  with the original series, or slightly prior to the original series.
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  So this is from Memoryalpha dot fandom dot com. Kylie
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  two seventy nine had long been divided into two factions,
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  whose mutual animosity had nearly escalated to the point of
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  global civil war by the mid twenty third century. In
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  twenty two fifty nine, Starfleet detected a warp signature from
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  the planet and sent the USS Archer to investigate. Its
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  crew of three, led by Commander Una Chiniley, beamed down
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  to make first contact, but were imprisoned by the Kaili.
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  The USS Enterprise subsequently arrived at Kylie two five nine
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  to find the Archer abandoned in orbit and no evidence
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  of warp capable civilization on the surface. A disguised landing
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  party led by Captain Christopher Pike rescued the Archer's crew
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  and learned that the warp signature had in fact originated
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  from a warp bomb constructed by the Kili after they
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  observed the battle against Control a year earlier. Given the
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  Federation's inadvertent contribution to the looming crisis on the planet,
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  Pike elected to disregard General Order I and reveal themselves
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  so as to broker peace between the factions. He showed
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  the Kaili leaders and population visual records of the devastation
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  suffered by Earth during World War Three and urged them
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  to avoid a similar fate and join the Federation instead.
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  The Kylie thus decided to put aside their differences and
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  pursue space travel as a united people. So you heard
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  in the intro I played a clip from the pilot
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  episode where Pike plays this PowerPoint for the Aliens, explaining
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  how civilization on Earth was almost wiped out centuries earlier
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  from nuclear weapons. It starts with increasing unrest, probably linked
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  to climate change, because as we know, climate change is
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  to blame for everything, not our sinful nature or anything
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  like that. Then civil war, then the Eugenics War, then
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  World War Three. So does that mean that we're going
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  to be in the Eugenics War before World War Three?
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  Is that first? Well, in the Star Trek universe, it
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  is first, because the Eugenics Wars were said to have
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  taken place in the nineties, like in the mid nineties,
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  nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety six. In the Star
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  Trek universe, the Eugenics Wars were a series of conflicts
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  that took place on Earth in the late twentieth century,
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  specifically from nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety six. That's
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  according to grok Now. I remember references to the Eugenics
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  Wars in various Star Trek episodes, and specifically in Star
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  Trek two with Khan because con was a genetically engineered person.
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  I think they crossed a Muslim with Klingon don't quote
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  me on that these wars were sparked by a group
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  of genetically engineered superhumans known as Augments, who were created
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  through selective breeding and genetic manipulation in an attempt to
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  improve the human race. The origins of the eugenics wars
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  can be traced back to a group of scientists who,
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  much like the ambitious researchers on the planet Camus two
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  in the original series episode Turnabout, Intruders, sought to push
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  the boundaries of human potential. However, their creation, the Augments
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  proved to be as uncontrollable as the Klingon human hybrid
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  warriors encountered in Star Trek. The next generation, led by
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  figures like Khan Noonian Singh, a charismatic and ruthless leader
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  reminiscent of the cunning adversaries Captain often faced, the Augments
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  seized power in over forty nations. Khan, introduced in the
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  classic episode Space Seed and later the film Star Trek two.
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  The wrath of Khan was the most prominent of these superhumans.
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  The Augments ruled with an iron fist. However, their reign
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  was marked by tyranny and infighting. Not unlike the power
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  struggles among the Klingon High Council. Ordinary humans, fearing domination
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  and subjugation, rose up against their genetically enhanced overlords in
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  a global conflict. The wars were devastating, with millions of
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  lives lost, comparable in scale to the destruction caused by
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  the Borg in their assaults on Federation worlds. By nineteen
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  ninety six, the augments were overthrown and Khan and a
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  group of his followers fled Earth aboard the SS Botany Bay,
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  a sleepership. Now. Star Trek, of course, is not the
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  only sci fi franchise to get into eugenics. I think of,
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  of course, Blade Runner. I think of Dune actually with
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  the selective breeding. I think of Gattica if you've seen
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  that movie, and others. But the eugenics wars, even though
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  in the sixties they were forecast for the nineties, the
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  idea behind eugenics really goes back to the nineteenth century,
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  and the eugenics wars in Star Trek really get their
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  inspiration from real world eugenics movements, particularly in the United
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  States and Germany and Canada and the UK and Western Europe.
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  The underlying ideologies and motivations echo historical events to improve
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  humanity through selective breeding programs, genetic control, and exclusionary policies.
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  In the United States, you had Charles Davenport and the
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  American Eugenics Society, and they promoted these ideas of enhancing
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  the population by encouraging reproduction among the fit, which typically
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  were white Anglo Saxon Protestants, but also restricting reproduction among
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  the unfit, which would be immigrants, the poor, people with disabilities. Okay,
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  So that's mirrored in Star Trek with the creation of
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  the Augments. Okay. And there's been actual eugenics cases that
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  have gone before the courts in US history. There's the
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  Buck versus Bell case in nineteen twenty seven, which had
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  to do with forced sterilization force sterilization programs that have
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  been carried out among various populations of undesirables in this
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  country before these types of practices were adopted in Nazi Germany.
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  Everyone always thinks of the Holocaust and the Nazis, but
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  don't understand that Hitler got his ideas from the genicists
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  in the United States and the rest of the Western world,
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  and who mostly supported Hitler during his rise to power.
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  And then you could argue the Nazis sort of took
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  it to the extreme, you know, with their racial hygiene
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  policies and their aim to engineer a master race through sterilization, euthanasia,
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  the T four program, and of course the Holocaust and
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  their obsession with genetic purity and superiority. That lines right
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  up with Khan Noonian Singh and the Augment's belief in
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  their right to rule due to their enhanced abilities. And
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  the Nazis used this occult pseudo scientific justification that really
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  comes from social Darwinism and mendally in genetics to herd
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  and control different groups in the areas that they controlled.
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  So this idea that Hitler was a right Winger or
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  a Christian is ridiculous. And you just have to spend
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  a little bit of time on X to see all
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  the in cell like Hitler worship and jew hating that
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  goes on. Okay, but it's just not the United States
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  and Germany, although that's what we think of, and I
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  also think of the Technology Exchange, the Brain Exchange, the
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  Project paper Clip that took place after World War II.
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  But what about in places like Canada. We've got a
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  lot of fringe radio network listeners there in Canada, they
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  have the Alberta Sterilization Act of nineteen twenty eight, which
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  basically authorized sterilizing mental defectives people with mental illness, in
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  other words, to prevent these traits from being passed down
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  to future generations. And even nowadays, some of these ideas
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  survive and it's very much linked to youth and ai asia.
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  In places like Iceland, they've pretty much eliminated Down syndrome
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  by encouraging abortion of Down syndrome babies, you know, which
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  is a real ethical moral dilemma that they don't seem
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  to have a problem with. In some of these Western
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  European countries and places like Canada and Oregon, where they
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  have these right to peaceful death initiatives, feeling depressed, you
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  can offer yourself. It's within your rights. Suicide is your right.
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  Of course, Christian Church views suicide as a grave sin.
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  So the premise of the eugenics war in star Trek
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  is a small group of scientific elite get to decide
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  who inherits the future for humanity. In England you had
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  Francis Galton, and across Western Europe countries like Sweden Switzerland
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  had sterilization programs to get rid of not only disabled people,
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  but people who were considered socially deviant, okay. And so
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  this widespread acceptance of eugenics as a scientific solution to
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  societal problems mirrors the Star Trek narratives initial optimism about
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  the Augments before their tyranny revealed the flaws in such
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  utopian schemes. The eugenics or is amplify this historical pattern.
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  What begins as a quest for progress devolves into chaos
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  when power concentrates in the hands of a self proclaimed elite,
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  So to the writers of Star Trek and perhaps Roddenberry himself.
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  While you know, real world eugenics relied on these crude
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  methods of sterilization and marriage laws and immigration restrictions, Star
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  Trek imagines getting beyond these crude methods and employing these
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  advanced genetic engineering methods, and then these superhumans get out
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  of control and sees power. So this sort of brings
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  us to this idea of predictive programming. Is Star Trek
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  really predictive programming if it's presenting us with a moral
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  conflict in the future that humanity prevails in this humanity
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  rejects eugenics, But some of these ideologies still survive. And
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  in the Star Trek universe, they survive as a reminder
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  of this scientific hubris that we seem to have, and
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  any time we try to control the population control certain
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  groups within a population can have disastrous long term results,
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  like you see in China out they have such a
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  huge looming population problem because of their one child policy,
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  even though they're the most populous nation on the planet.
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  All it takes is a couple generations of not having
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  very many children, and you can go on the other
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  side of that hill really fast and your population can crash.
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  You're already seeing it in places like Japan and a
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  lot of Western countries as well, where people aren't having children.
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  So it's sort of like economic eugenics gene Roddenberry's fingerprints
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  are evident in the broader themes of the eugenics wars.
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  He was deeply interested in humanity's potential, both its capacity
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  for progress and its susceptibility to hubrius. So this idea
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  of a devastating conflict sparked by genetic engineering fits this
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  tendency to weave these cautionary tales into Star Trek, like
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  the Prime directive or this idea of technology outpacing our morality.
• 38:21
  Let's take a quick break and then tell you what.
• 38:23
  We're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about Nazis,
• 38:26
  and we're gonna talk about Gene Roddenberry. Not saying Gene
• 38:30
  Roddenberry is a Nazi, but we're gonna get into it
• 38:34
  after this brief musical interlude. In this episode, we're gonna
• 38:43
  be talking about a lot more than strange new worlds, right,
• 38:48
  We're gonna be talking about Earth, a very familiar world
• 38:53
  planet Earth, old Earth or younger flat Earth, or if
• 39:02
  you believe in a globe Earth, then you're a globalist obviously,
• 39:08
  and if not, and just one of those people that
• 39:15
  believe in the pipe. I'm not purposely trying to manufacture
• 39:23
  controversial standards. But let's face it, Star Trek has always
• 39:29
  been woke kf We're gonna look at classic star Trek,
• 39:34
  the creator of Star Trek, Pete Roddenberry, and there's a
• 39:38
  mysterious connection to a group of non human intelligences calling
• 39:43
  themselves the Council of the Name, just further evidence of
• 39:50
  the connection between the cult and outer space. The Lords
• 39:55
  of the UFO launched this podcast, and I already talked
• 40:03
  about that gone out and you get to accompany me.
• 40:12
  All right, let's get back into it. You have been
• 40:30
  listening to Ministry X on the Fringe Radio network Fringe
• 40:36
  radionetwork dot com. Could the Nazis have made contact with
• 40:43
  non human intelligences? And how does that tie into Star Trek.
• 40:55
  I have to tell the story of the one time
• 40:57
  me and my buddy were in Blockbuster, remember Blockbuster Video,
• 41:04
  trying to pick out something to watch, and there was
• 41:09
  this black couple in there. I mean, because people say, well,
• 41:14
  black people don't like Star Trek and stuff. I'm like, what, no,
• 41:19
  they do. Anyways, it was this couple searching for a
• 41:27
  video to watch, a movie to watch, and the dude
• 41:30
  picks up Star Trek, like one of the Star Trek
• 41:34
  movies off the shelf, and he's kind of checking it out,
• 41:36
  reading the back of it and stuff. And she comes
• 41:39
  up and she's like, I ain't watching no Star track.
• 41:44
  He just like sheepishly kind of size and put it,
• 41:47
  puts it back on the shelf. And I made fun
• 41:50
  of that like for years and would just go on
• 41:53
  and on about Star Trek, I ain't watching no Star track.
• 41:59
  It probably ended up watching The Bodyguard or something. Poor
• 42:03
  guy Anyways, where was I uh oh, yeah, nazis a
• 42:14
  mysterious woman by the name of Maria or Sick, a
• 42:19
  psychic medium and head of the Verril Society, which was
• 42:28
  an offshoot of the Thule Society. The guest wil Shaft
• 42:35
  so many notes. A mysterious woman by the name of
• 42:42
  Maria or Sick or perhaps you could say Orsich, who
• 42:51
  was a psychic medium and head of the Vril Society,
• 42:56
  which was an offshoot of the Thule Society in Germany,
• 43:05
  had apparently made contact with an alien species from the
• 43:09
  star system Aldebaran. And I've talked about this in previous episodes.
• 43:17
  So according to these channelings, the Sumi were a humanoid
• 43:26
  race who colonized the Earth five hundred million years ago,
• 43:31
  and those who survived the flood became the ancestors of
• 43:40
  the Aryan race. I mean, that's the boiled down these beings.
• 43:47
  The Sumi Sumi as they are known, collectively channeled messages
• 43:53
  through orsiic and her long blonde hair, which acted as
• 43:59
  a psychic antenna. She was part of a group of
• 44:06
  ladies who all kept their hair long, which was countercultural
• 44:15
  to Germany at the time. In the twenties and the
• 44:18
  thirties when shorter hairstyles for women were fashionable. So I
• 44:28
  imagine they would keep their hair pinned up and pinned
• 44:31
  back until it comes time for them to all get
• 44:35
  together and have these channeling sessions, and they all let
• 44:39
  down their hair. And it's just crazy right that this
• 44:44
  went on. According to the story, in the early nineteen twenties,
• 44:49
  Orsik received detailed transmissions in a trance state, producing two
• 44:57
  sets of documents, one in a script resembled German templar
• 45:02
  writing and another in what was later identified as ancient Sumerian.
• 45:10
  With help from Viril and Thul members, including a medium
• 45:14
  named Sigrun, the Sumerian texts were translated and supposedly contained
• 45:21
  technical blueprints for a circular flying machine dubbed bear with
• 45:31
  me here the Gensitz flug Machine, Gensitz flug Machine machine,
• 45:43
  let's just call it the JFM or the other World
• 45:47
  flight Machine. This craft was said to use an anti
• 45:52
  gravity propulsion system powered by a mysterious Viril energy with
• 46:00
  designs far beyond Earth technology at the time. The project
• 46:04
  allegedly began in nineteen twenty two, funded by Thule and Viril,
• 46:13
  with parts built in secret factories By the nineteen thirties,
• 46:19
  prototypes like the RFZ one and VIRIL seven were tested,
• 46:24
  though early flights reportedly failed, like the RFZ one crashing
• 46:30
  after reaching sixty meters. Later iterations, especially the VIRIL seven craft,
• 46:37
  were claimed to have flown successfully, with some accounts suggesting
• 46:42
  a nineteen forty four test through a dimensional channel to
• 46:46
  Aldebaran left the craft aged and damaged as if it
• 46:52
  had traveled for centuries. Now. Maria hersel Well secretly despised
• 47:01
  the Nazi Party, but she was well known in the
• 47:07
  occult and paras psychology and spiritualist circles of the time.
• 47:14
  Rudolf Steiner, Rudolf Hess, Heinrich Himmler von Braun, even Nikola
• 47:25
  Tesla was rumored to be associated with her for a time,
• 47:32
  or at least knew of her. There's not a whole
• 47:35
  lot of detail, there's not a whole lot of facts
• 47:38
  and documentation. There's not a whole lot of evidence for
• 47:41
  much of this. But supposedly these people had crossed paths
• 47:47
  with her at some point, or so the legend goes.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: And now.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: It's important to note that there isn't a lot of
• 48:16
  evidence for any of this outside the writings of occultists
• 48:21
  that were published long after World War Two. And that's
• 48:27
  a whole other rabbit hole that leads to Tibetan monks
• 48:35
  and Nazi UFOs and Antarctica and underground bases topics I've
• 48:43
  discussed on this podcast ad nauseum, but we can say
• 48:52
  this much. Certainly, the Nazis were interested, just as we
• 48:56
  were in the US and the Soviet Union, in discovering
• 49:00
  if these psychic powers could be used to gain a
• 49:05
  military advantage. Many of these programs have been declassified. The
• 49:11
  CIA acknowledges the programs, but claims the remote viewing experiments, etc.
• 49:18
  Were discontinued because they weren't very reliable. We're going to
• 49:26
  have a news story about remote viewing later on in
• 49:31
  the broadcast. But what I tend to think is they
• 49:38
  weren't discontinued. They were reorganized, they were moved around under
• 49:42
  different civilian administrations, and they continued clandestinely, clandestinely. I think
• 50:00
  this is at the center of the cover up actually,
• 50:07
  and there's perhaps several use apps of this nature unacknowledged
• 50:13
  secret access programs. And it's my working hypothesis that this
• 50:19
  recent parade of whistleblowers claiming crash retrieval programs, non human
• 50:26
  biologics reverse engineering programs is like a red herring to
• 50:34
  get us to suspect that we're dealing with biological extraterrestrials
• 50:40
  with nuts and bolts technology. So this makes it so
• 50:47
  that disclosure for the UFO enthusiast the UFO believer, means
• 50:54
  the government officially acknowledging that aliens piloting spaceships from other
• 51:00
  planets have crashed here and we've been studying their technology.
• 51:09
  But the real truth is quite a darker matter, for
• 51:14
  which we have actual evidence in plain sight, for already
• 51:20
  acknowledged programs that sought to tap into non human origin
• 51:25
  intelligences through psychic or technological means and a transfer of
• 51:31
  information or knowledge. All we have to do is look
• 51:40
  at twentieth century history and the many dreamers and thinkers
• 51:48
  and geniuses and inventors artists who have claimed inspiration from
• 51:57
  an other worldly source. Tesla certainly comes to mind. Philip K.
• 52:04
  Dick talks about this. The author Francis Crick, who discovered
• 52:10
  the double helix structure of DNA, concluded the human race
• 52:15
  was seated on the planet Earth by an alien species. Okay,
• 52:21
  Jack Parsons, Carl Sagan, some of the most brilliant people
• 52:28
  in the twentieth century. The fact that this mirrors the
• 52:34
  technology exchange that was documented in the Book of Genesis
• 52:39
  and the Book of Enoch in ancient times is not coincidental.
• 52:49
  So while ufology and all the UFO believers have zeroed
• 52:53
  in on the eth the extraterrestrial hypothesis i e. Biological
• 52:59
  alien speed from other planets who've traveled to Earth in
• 53:07
  advanced spacecraft, both in the ancient past perhaps prehistoric times,
• 53:14
  and continue to do so in modern times, the truth
• 53:18
  is actually these non human intelligences are by definition extraterrestrial,
• 53:23
  right extraterrestrial beyond the Earth, but they occupy other dimensional
• 53:35
  spaces realms in the locality of planet Earth, and they're
• 53:43
  much older than the human race, but not completely alien
• 53:48
  per se. My main point here is which leads us
• 53:54
  back to Star Trek. Star Trek, we've been primed, programmed
• 54:01
  to accept the idea of interplanetary travelers as part of
• 54:08
  the larger evolutionary paradigm. Alien species evolved on other planets,
• 54:16
  some of which are tens of thousands of years older,
• 54:22
  maybe millions of years older, and thus more advanced. In
• 54:26
  other parts of the galaxy, there's more primitive civilizations, and
• 54:31
  of course the Enterprise crew have encounters with both of
• 54:36
  these types of civilizations. Star Trek is definitely rooted in
• 54:44
  this Marxist Darwinian worldview, and most of the modern day
• 54:50
  UFO cults mirror this same worldview, where God is removed
• 54:56
  or the concept of God is ridiculed and explained away
• 55:01
  in favor of a rational materialist view of reality, or
• 55:07
  just something beyond what we can even comprehend because we're
• 55:11
  just silly, limited humans. But why do all the UFO
• 55:23
  contact ees, those who've claim to have communication with aliens
• 55:29
  relay messages that align with this Marxist Darwinian, materialist, globalist worldview.
• 55:41
  Are there any whistleblowers out there who will concede that
• 55:46
  they've been part of a program of active communication with
• 55:52
  these non human intelligences? And perhaps we haven't recovered crashed
• 56:05
  flying saucers to reverse engineer them, but have received inspiration
• 56:12
  even blueprints through active and ongoing clandestine usaps in Air
• 56:22
  Force Intelligence, Defense Intelligence, CIA, NASA, or in other words,
• 56:30
  it's human beings developing advanced technology decades, perhaps centuries, perhaps
• 56:38
  past what is publicly known because of directed communication with
• 56:47
  drum Roll fallen Angels. Perhaps the reason for the ongoing
• 56:58
  cover up is the immoral and disturbing nature of this
• 57:02
  infernal relationship. And I do suspect the majority of UFO
• 57:14
  and alien lore mythology is a carefully orchestrated disinformation campaign
• 57:22
  that's been festering for seventy eighty years. And the UFO
• 57:31
  UAP disclosure that everyone is clamoring on about is in
• 57:36
  fact a misnomer, a distraction. And if you followed this
• 57:44
  podcast for any amount of time, you know how I
• 57:48
  tend to go on and on about this because it's
• 57:51
  super frustrating, especially for Christians now and there's a lot
• 58:02
  of non Christians that listen to this podcast. But have
• 58:08
  you ever questioned why the alien message is laser focused
• 58:13
  on discrediting God and the divinity of Jesus. I mean,
• 58:22
  do you really believe the advanced aliens from another planet
• 58:25
  want to help us evolve? But unfortunately we're still attached
• 58:30
  to these primitive notions of God and salvation and no,
• 58:36
  there's no God. Jesus was just a really nice human
• 58:40
  or a human who became a God. Or we are
• 58:45
  the gods, but don't despair. You can become God through
• 58:52
  our advanced technology. And those silly humans who dismiss us
• 59:00
  the extraterrestrial reality, it won't be long until they're out
• 59:05
  of the way. It's literally the oldest deception in the Bible,
• 59:16
  originating with the Father of Lies. Now what you think
• 59:23
  of as the rapture is actually the stupid humans being
• 59:28
  abducted out of here. Or maybe we'll snatch the children
• 59:33
  up and take them back to our planet where we're
• 59:37
  much more enlightened and let the boomers perish on the
• 59:43
  Earth because they didn't fix the climate change. So this
• 59:50
  leads me to question what kind of people are going
• 59:53
  to make the cut for this fake alien rapture event Thunberg,
• 1:00:02
  John Podesta, Bill Gates. Of course, they're not going to
• 1:00:08
  escape the planet. It's an absurd substitution for the redemptive
• 1:00:16
  narrative of the Bible. So Maria or six, she disappeared
• 1:00:24
  in March of nineteen forty five, leaving a curious message
• 1:00:30
  in a letter to Viril Society members quote there is
• 1:00:35
  no one here, unquote, and she was never seen or
• 1:00:42
  heard from again. And this is not a true crime
• 1:00:47
  mystery podcast, but This is very mysterious. Now there's a
• 1:00:57
  lot of speculation about what happened to her. Some say
• 1:01:02
  she escaped to South America or Antarctica or Aldebaran in
• 1:01:10
  the constellation Taurus. But who knows. Why am I even
• 1:01:17
  talking about it? Well, you'll see. Let's get back to
• 1:01:24
  Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry, because I was recently on
• 1:01:31
  with BT on the Truth and Shadow podcast talking about
• 1:01:43
  Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry and his contact with the
• 1:01:54
  Council of Nine as part of rodden Berries larger utopian
• 1:02:02
  vision of the future. Star Trek is one of the
• 1:02:12
  few sci fi franchises that presents a utopian versus dystopian future. Actually,
• 1:02:27
  I think that's the name of the episode, the Truth
• 1:02:30
  and Shadow episode, Roddenberry's utopian vision of the future. Anyways,
• 1:02:37
  I'll put a link to that in the in the
• 1:02:40
  show notes if you want to go and listen to that.
• 1:02:43
  We talk about that, and then we get often too
• 1:02:45
  some other subject matter. So I wanted to do a
• 1:02:51
  little bit more of a deeper dive into these channeling
• 1:02:55
  sessions that Gene Roddenberry participated in, so he wasn't just
• 1:03:03
  an observer. And I'm going to read some of those
• 1:03:06
  transcripts here in a little bit, and that episode of
• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:16
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• 1:04:18
  and now back to our show. Yeah, that's cool. How
• 1:04:23
  I just like went right into that ad. You didn't
• 1:04:25
  even know it until it was too late. But when
• 1:04:33
  I was on with BT, we didn't get into great
• 1:04:35
  detail about these channeling sessions, so I wanted to do
• 1:04:39
  a little bit more of that analysis. So how did
• 1:04:45
  Gene Roddenberry get caught up in these psychic channeling sessions.
• 1:04:54
  Other celebrities have been rumored to and known to attend
• 1:05:00
  these channeling sessions by the psychic medium Phyllis Schlemmer. She
• 1:05:09
  was a celebrity psychic in the nineteen seventies and in
• 1:05:15
  nineteen ninety three she published a book, The Only Planet
• 1:05:19
  of Choice, Essential Briefings from Deep Space. And this book
• 1:05:28
  has these transcripts of the channeling sessions from the seventies
• 1:05:33
  where Schlemmer, psychic medium, communicated with a group of entities
• 1:05:38
  called the Council of Nine Gene Roddenberry attended these sessions
• 1:05:45
  between nineteen seventy four and nineteen seventy five and participated
• 1:05:53
  in question and answer exchanges which are detailed in the book. So,
• 1:06:01
  this period in Roddenberry's life was sort of a challenging
• 1:06:05
  one because the original run of Star Trek had been canceled.
• 1:06:12
  He was sort of, I guess, in between scripts he
• 1:06:14
  had to come up with some new ideas, some new scripts,
• 1:06:19
  some new shows. So he was kind of poking around
• 1:06:27
  seeking some advice from some crazy psychic ladies like Schlemmer.
• 1:06:38
  So I want to read some of these transcripts from
• 1:06:44
  one of these sessions involving Roddenberry, so you can hear
• 1:06:49
  these questions posed by the participants and the channeled answers
• 1:06:56
  given by Schlemmer channeled from the Nine the Council of
• 1:07:02
  the Nine, who have apparently chosen one voice named Tom
• 1:07:08
  Tom to speak for the nine. But the nine are
• 1:07:13
  all really one. We wouldn't understand it. It's way too complex,
• 1:07:19
  as you'll find out as I read this the Council
• 1:07:24
  of the Nine. Apart from the replies given in the
• 1:07:28
  following chapter, one very striking aspect of these transmissions is
• 1:07:35
  the ability that Tom has for accurate and total recall
• 1:07:42
  of the content of earlier conversations. He has often said, quote,
• 1:07:48
  look to your transcripts of two years ago unquote, and
• 1:07:53
  has also acknowledged that what for us might take months
• 1:07:59
  of research, they can do in seconds. The understanding of
• 1:08:03
  the origins of the Nine would seem to be bounded
• 1:08:06
  by the inner development of the individual, be it the
• 1:08:11
  questioner or the reader. For as Tom has said, quote,
• 1:08:16
  if there is one who would ask of questions that
• 1:08:19
  cannot assimilate and cannot in truth understand, we do not
• 1:08:25
  answer until they are in that moment when they can.
• 1:08:34
  This is why the chapter starts off with several different
• 1:08:37
  people asking the same sorts of question. Tom once replied, quote,
• 1:08:43
  we are in truth AONs unquote, in reference to the
• 1:08:48
  Gnostic philosophers, and that very conversation appears later in the book.
• 1:08:55
  An aon is a term commonly used to describe a
• 1:08:58
  period of time and eternity. However, it also describes the
• 1:09:05
  highest form of celestial power spiritual entities formed from the
• 1:09:14
  divine presence. This first exchange, which took place in nineteen
• 1:09:21
  seventy five, I don't think this was the first session.
• 1:09:25
  I think the first that's documented in the book. This
• 1:09:31
  first exchange, which took place in nineteen seventy five, is
• 1:09:34
  between Gene Roddenberry of Star Trek fame. According to this,
• 1:09:40
  Gene had some very long sessions with Tom, and there's
• 1:09:48
  a lot more of these in the book, but I
• 1:09:51
  picked out the first few from the chapter on the
• 1:09:58
  Council of the Nine. So Gene starts out here by
• 1:10:04
  proposing a question. I cut out some of this. I
• 1:10:10
  didn't go line by line here, but I did pick
• 1:10:12
  out some snippets of these conversations. So we're gonna start
• 1:10:18
  with Gene. This is Gene Roddenberry. To whom am I talking?
• 1:10:24
  Do you have a name? And then Tom responds, I
• 1:10:31
  am Tom. I am the spokesman for the Council of Nine.
• 1:10:40
  In truth, I am Tahuti. Yes, I am also Hamarcos,
• 1:10:49
  I am also haren Car. I am known as Thomas,
• 1:10:56
  and I am known as Atum. So this entity apparently
• 1:11:04
  has many names. Gene, are you one of the nine
• 1:11:15
  or are you a separate being? Tom, I sit in
• 1:11:23
  the Council of Nine. Yes, I am one that is
• 1:11:28
  in wisdom that speaks to you. But the Council has
• 1:11:32
  said that in communications at times I sound not wisdom.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: This is the reply that Tom gave to another questioner
• 1:11:48
  in nineteen seventy seven on the same subject. Guest, I
• 1:11:54
  would like to ask, what is it that greets me Tom?
• 1:12:03
  I am the spokesman. I am known as Tom for
• 1:12:08
  the Council of Nine. I am of the nine. Guest,
• 1:12:17
  whom do you represent? A higher authority above you that
• 1:12:21
  commands you and directs your ways? Tom? This is difficult
• 1:12:29
  to explain, for the world has no similar situation. But
• 1:12:36
  we would say to you, yes, we are in connection
• 1:12:40
  with one that is higher, but in totality. Together, we
• 1:12:45
  are one, as all the universe is one. Guest, do
• 1:12:54
  you have any purpose in our world? Any major message?
• 1:13:02
  We wish you to know. Firstly that we are not
• 1:13:05
  physical beings. Your world is the manifestation of creation and
• 1:13:11
  of the Creator manifest in your world in the form
• 1:13:17
  of humankind. You ask if we have a message for you. Guest, yes,
• 1:13:26
  I do. Tom We say to you, you have been
• 1:13:33
  created in the image of the Creator. Does that sound familiar?
• 1:13:41
  This world has lost its identity with creation. What is
• 1:13:47
  of necessity to understand is the going forth and creating
• 1:13:52
  action and deed that brings you to completion in who
• 1:13:56
  you are. It is not enough to pray, It is
• 1:14:01
  not enough to gather groups of humankind for meditations. What
• 1:14:07
  is important is to act. I am the balance. And
• 1:14:15
  when I say I, I mean because I am an
• 1:14:20
  emissary for the Nine. It is not I, but it
• 1:14:26
  is the group. And the principle of the nine is
• 1:14:32
  infinite intelligence. And what we try to bring to this
• 1:14:37
  planet is this type of intelligence sounds really intelligent. We
• 1:14:46
  are of nine principles of the universe, yet together we
• 1:14:50
  are one. Now, remember these are messages that are being
• 1:14:57
  channeled by Schlemmer Okay, probably with her head reared back
• 1:15:05
  and her eyes rolling back in her head, we are
• 1:15:09
  separate and one at the same time. Each represents a
• 1:15:14
  portion of energy, knowledge, wisdom, love, kindness, technology, and incontinuity.
• 1:15:27
  It goes on until each portion of a spiral is
• 1:15:32
  composed of all that is important to bring complete understanding
• 1:15:37
  to each atom, until it becomes one with us. There
• 1:15:46
  are in actuality multiplications and more, but in principle there
• 1:15:55
  are nine. I mean what in the heck? There are
• 1:16:03
  in actuality multiplications and more, but in principle there are nine.
• 1:16:14
  We are what is identified in the Hebraic tradition as
• 1:16:20
  the Eloheen. We wish you to know we are not God.
• 1:16:26
  We are collective and become one.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: We wish you to know that we are you as
• 1:16:37
  you are. We you created us, and out of that creation.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: You were created. Do not underestimate who you are and
• 1:16:51
  your ability. Know that all people are pure, that you
• 1:16:56
  are perfect, and that all things are possible with you.
• 1:17:03
  Know also that we cannot exist without you and all souls,
• 1:17:08
  and neither can planet Earth nor the universe. When you
• 1:17:14
  understand that, you will understand your own life. At times
• 1:17:20
  in your world. People create confusion for the density of
• 1:17:26
  it is a density of darkness. But always hold the
• 1:17:31
  light of truth of your own being who you are
• 1:17:38
  in your heart. We are with you always, We give
• 1:17:44
  you love and bring you peace. Now the book doesn't
• 1:17:52
  explain who Andrew is in these sessions, but it suspected
• 1:17:59
  that it's actually Andrija Pouharik, who was the researcher. He
• 1:18:08
  was an inventor, a physician, an author, and he was
• 1:18:15
  very much interested in parapsychology. And he was the individual
• 1:18:21
  who brought Uri Geller to national attention. And so most
• 1:18:27
  people think Andrew is Pooharick, who we could do a
• 1:18:33
  whole other episode on Pooharick. So the sessions continue with Andrew. Andrew,
• 1:18:46
  if I may just give you my conception of what
• 1:18:49
  you are like, I gather that you are pure light
• 1:18:53
  beings in a sense that we don't even understand, because
• 1:18:58
  you exist at of a lost city beyond light. Tom
• 1:19:05
  it is beyond your comprehension, Andrew, something beyond photons, beyond tachions,
• 1:19:16
  the least divisible known quanta or subdivisions of light. And secondly,
• 1:19:22
  I would assume that you are more of the nature
• 1:19:25
  of what we call soul than any other thing we
• 1:19:28
  can imagine. Tom, we are soul, Andrew you are soul.
• 1:19:43
  Now in your relationship to the nine, for example, are
• 1:19:46
  the nine of the same nature as you are? Tom,
• 1:19:53
  we are one and the same, Andrew, I see. And
• 1:19:59
  then could you explain the profound mystery why there are
• 1:20:03
  nine basic manifestations of guess we should use the word
• 1:20:08
  God for lack of a better term, Tom, I will
• 1:20:15
  try to explain it in a manner in which you
• 1:20:17
  may understand. Nine is complete. Everything is nine in your world.
• 1:20:25
  You have said seven so many times. When everything is
• 1:20:30
  truly nine, there are nine chakras, which are the nine
• 1:20:37
  principles and nine elements of what you call God. There
• 1:20:43
  are nine bands around this planet Earth. There are nine
• 1:20:49
  etheric bodies, and the purpose of growing your etheric bodies,
• 1:20:54
  or going through your transformations and transitions, is to attain
• 1:20:59
  the nine nine etheric bodies. Nine is a complete number.
• 1:21:05
  It is whole. When you go over a nine, it cancels,
• 1:21:10
  it becomes one, and a nine is complete. This does
• 1:21:15
  not change. But remember this, we ourselves are not God.
• 1:21:20
  All of you and all of us make God. Okay,
• 1:21:28
  So nine is considered the number of completion, perfection, synthesis, unity, totality. Okay,
• 1:21:38
  not just to the Council of the Nine, but in
• 1:21:45
  many esoteric human traditions, strangely, the Kabbalah, hermetic magic numerology. Okay,
• 1:21:57
  is this truly an alien revelation or is is it
• 1:22:00
  a repackaging of very ancient occult wisdom or is it
• 1:22:07
  just a bunch of gibberish, some new age mumbo jumbo.
• 1:22:16
  I actually don't think it's that. It sounds like that
• 1:22:20
  at times, but when you break it down line by
• 1:22:23
  line and what's actually being discussed, it's very purposeful, and
• 1:22:30
  it's very the message is very coordinated. Okay, so let
• 1:22:35
  me continue reading from the book. In this next transmission,
• 1:22:41
  one questioner names various biblical characters from Genesis chapters four
• 1:22:47
  and five, descendants of Adam, asking whether any of these
• 1:22:54
  were members of the Nine tom in totality of understanding.
• 1:23:02
  We are not any of those. There are hints of
• 1:23:07
  us upon your planet. There are many who try to
• 1:23:11
  understand who we are in your earthliness. It is difficult
• 1:23:16
  for you to accept that you do not understand. At times,
• 1:23:23
  the attempt to understand colors the truth of the universe.
• 1:23:29
  There are only keys for unlocking portions. For the human
• 1:23:34
  mind cannot totally comprehend. There are many interpretations and also
• 1:23:43
  many conflicts about who we are. Yes, in a future time,
• 1:23:49
  we will attempt to explain ourselves on another level of consciousness.
• 1:23:56
  But first planet Earth must reach that state of evolutionary
• 1:24:02
  consciousness where we may be understood. Yes. Yes, the Council
• 1:24:10
  has said, do not try to put us into a box.
• 1:24:15
  We do not exist in that form. Yes, yes, John,
• 1:24:25
  Is it true to say that there are several dimensions
• 1:24:29
  between us and yourselves? Tom, that would be an understatement.
• 1:24:41
  There are many within in your mind, visualize your Earth.
• 1:24:51
  Then from your Earth, visualize that there are waves spiraling outward,
• 1:24:58
  and one way creates another, and as it circulates, it grows,
• 1:25:07
  and it creates more and more. And it is heavy
• 1:25:10
  in the beginning, and if it has a sound, it
• 1:25:14
  is loud of sound. And as it radiates out it
• 1:25:21
  becomes refined, it becomes more expansive, and all of those
• 1:25:28
  irritants that exist within the physical planet Earth are eliminated
• 1:25:35
  as it becomes a pure sound and a pure wave.
• 1:25:39
  And if you would have it in the color of
• 1:25:42
  browns or blacks. As it is radiating out, it is
• 1:25:47
  also being purified until it becomes, in truth the color
• 1:25:52
  of colorless, which is in truth a golden light. Can't
• 1:26:00
  believe that people believe this. We are at the extent
• 1:26:07
  of that. We are. How may we say to you,
• 1:26:12
  as you can take a sound until it becomes the purest,
• 1:26:20
  as you can take a color until it becomes the purest.
• 1:26:25
  And if you can take all vibrations until the level
• 1:26:30
  has raised, until the pitch is of pure nature, that
• 1:26:39
  is where we are. John, I see that's a beautiful picture.
• 1:26:46
  Thank you. So Tom speaks for the nine and is
• 1:26:55
  part of the nine, and everything and everyone is one.
• 1:27:04
  We are the elohem, as the Hebrews would say, But
• 1:27:11
  so are you. And only we understand this because you're
• 1:27:16
  too stupid and misunderstood your Bible. I mean, I haven't
• 1:27:25
  read this entire book, but I wonder if anyone involved
• 1:27:29
  here questioned whether these messages were in any way deceptive. Well,
• 1:27:37
  probably not, because either Schlemmer is herself deceived by these beings,
• 1:27:44
  or is generating these channeled messages as whole cloth fiction,
• 1:27:52
  or she's mentally ill. But I would say the least
• 1:27:58
  probable of all all possibilities is that these messages represent
• 1:28:04
  an accurate, genuine, truthful message from the Council of Nine
• 1:28:11
  from Tom the Eloheim. Some might say the similarity to
• 1:28:22
  other New Age and alien contact ye tropes is evidence
• 1:28:29
  of its reliability. I say it's evidence of a purposeful deception,
• 1:28:40
  and it's fueled by this internal rejection of God and truth.
• 1:28:50
  You reject God, God gives you over to deception. You
• 1:28:57
  reconstruct God in your own image, and that nullifies sin
• 1:29:05
  and the need for salvation through Christ. It's the very
• 1:29:09
  core of the anti Christ message, the very foundation of
• 1:29:16
  Luciferian Promethean New Age deception, the lie of the serpent
• 1:29:23
  in the garden. You'll notice in these sessions there's very
• 1:29:28
  little testing of the spirits. The participants are in awe
• 1:29:35
  of Schlemmer, who I suspect is either an outright Charlatan
• 1:29:42
  like many other psychics and channelers throughout history, or she's
• 1:29:49
  mentally ill, or she's actually communicating with a deceptive non
• 1:29:55
  human intelligence. Here's some more, Tom. There are other civilizations,
• 1:30:04
  and there are amongst you incarnate souls from those civilizations
• 1:30:10
  who have come to help planet Earth. Oh you don't say,
• 1:30:17
  one of these civilizations, Hoover was the civilization that originally
• 1:30:25
  seated planet Earth, as did some of the others, but
• 1:30:32
  Hoover reseeded planet Earth on three occasions. Hoover reseeded planet
• 1:30:39
  Earth on three occasions. Ups I already said that Hoover
• 1:30:45
  is the civilization from which the Hebrews derive, hence the
• 1:30:52
  importance of the Hebrews. Hoova is the civilization that brought
• 1:30:58
  forth the nazar Wait. The Hoova brought forth the Nazarene.
• 1:31:07
  The Hoova produced Jesus, the Hoova civilization, He's not the
• 1:31:17
  only begotten of God, the Father. Nobody questions this. Well,
• 1:31:24
  here's a question from Gene. I understand that the nine
• 1:31:29
  are not physical entities. But I do understand correctly that
• 1:31:35
  those of Hoova and Altaia and other civilizations are physical beings.
• 1:31:43
  Question mark Tom. They are physical civilizations, but not in
• 1:31:51
  the same dimension as planet Earth. Of course, they also
• 1:32:00
  have physical limitations, but not to the extent of those
• 1:32:03
  on Earth. Andrew, could you amplify that and indicate which dimension,
• 1:32:13
  For example, Hoova exists in Tom. When you speak of dimensions, Andrew,
• 1:32:26
  I mean fourth, fifth, sixth. For example, we live in
• 1:32:30
  a four dimensional world height, breadth, depth, time. In our
• 1:32:34
  physical world, Tom, we understand the different as you would
• 1:32:42
  call dimensions, but in truth they are not dimensions. Andrew
• 1:32:51
  well when it was explained to me before dimensions were
• 1:32:54
  said to consist of various velocity envelopes. Tom, Yes, speed,
• 1:33:02
  Andrew right, And relative to the speed of light, what
• 1:33:06
  is the speed of Hoova? Tom, I am consulting Altaya
• 1:33:17
  is giving us his numbers. Yes, Altaya has said it
• 1:33:23
  is not exactly a dimension, but it would be fifty
• 1:33:26
  six times the speed of light as you know it
• 1:33:29
  on Earth, Gene, thank you. What about the rest of
• 1:33:36
  our galaxy and the universe? Are any of the visitors
• 1:33:40
  we seem to get on Earth coming from there? Tom?
• 1:33:47
  There are those within your galaxy that are not within
• 1:33:51
  what you call the dimensions of your Earth. But those
• 1:33:54
  that come to benefit planet Earth come from galaxies not
• 1:33:58
  within your galaxy. Altaya, for example, is what you might
• 1:34:06
  call fifty million light years away. This is so stupid, John,
• 1:34:17
  But from our perspective on Earth, these other civilizations like
• 1:34:22
  Altaya or Hoova could in a sense be existing in
• 1:34:26
  or around us, and we would not perceive them, Tom.
• 1:34:35
  They are in a different reality frequency because of the speeds, John,
• 1:34:44
  But is it possible to talk to them as existing
• 1:34:48
  close or far from us in our terms at all? Tom?
• 1:34:57
  If you are asking in the terms of the physical
• 1:35:00
  planet Earth, and you are asking about a length or
• 1:35:04
  a space of time, it would be a great distance.
• 1:35:08
  They are not of this galaxy, John, And we would
• 1:35:13
  not be able to see them even if we were
• 1:35:15
  there where they are in our present condition, would we, Tom?
• 1:35:24
  In the dimension in which you are, you would not
• 1:35:26
  be able to see them with your eyes if you
• 1:35:29
  were able to transport yourself to that area. But they
• 1:35:34
  can come to reach you within your area, John. But
• 1:35:41
  they experience themselves as physical, even though we wouldn't experience
• 1:35:45
  them as physical. I think Tom's getting frustrated. In the
• 1:35:53
  dimension in which they have existence, they have a similar
• 1:35:56
  sense of physicalness that you have within this area in
• 1:36:00
  which you exist, But they are not physical in the
• 1:36:04
  sense that you know on planet Earth. John. And is
• 1:36:10
  it true to say that there are several dimensions between
• 1:36:14
  us and yourselves? For example? That would be an understatement.
• 1:36:21
  There are many That sounds like a repeat Gene. Are
• 1:36:31
  there any civilizations or races within our galaxy visiting us?
• 1:36:36
  At present, Tom, Yes, there are civilizations of different dimensions,
• 1:36:44
  different intelligence, different evolving that are working with the twenty
• 1:36:49
  four civilizations. There are those within your galaxy that are
• 1:36:54
  in service to those that are attempting to salvage the
• 1:36:57
  planet Earth, but they are not the primaries the twenty
• 1:37:02
  four gene. If the Altaeans, the Hoovids and others were
• 1:37:09
  to visit Earth, would they be in the same physical
• 1:37:13
  body as they are in their own dimension? Tom. When
• 1:37:19
  those of Altaia manifest upon Earth, they have a similarity
• 1:37:23
  of appearance to those that exist upon the planet Earth.
• 1:37:27
  They have a higher rate of vibration, but they may
• 1:37:31
  bring it into the rate of vibration which is correct
• 1:37:35
  for the planet Earth. There are others, such as those
• 1:37:39
  of the civilization of Ashan, who do not look like
• 1:37:43
  the people of planet Earth. Should the civilizations land on Earth,
• 1:37:52
  those that would appear in the beginning will have similar
• 1:37:56
  appearance to those of the planet Earth, or they will
• 1:38:00
  will manifest in the manners of Earth people such as
• 1:38:04
  Hoova has done. Those of the other civilizations that follow
• 1:38:12
  would come in the form which they have. We wish
• 1:38:15
  to reassure you that those who exist on planet Earth
• 1:38:19
  will find that those visitors that do not have what
• 1:38:23
  you call beauty will have within them the essence of beauty.
• 1:38:29
  There will be many appearances, a diversity of appearances.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: Years later, the following exchange brought out another perspective on
• 1:38:42
  the physicality of the beings of the Universal civilizations. John
• 1:38:48
  to civilizations like Altaea and others of the twenty four
• 1:38:52
  exist on a physical planet that is in our understanding
• 1:38:57
  of physical We know they have four in their own
• 1:39:01
  time space envelope, But do they have a physical planet
• 1:39:05
  we could locate in our time and space? Tom, You
• 1:39:12
  mean does it have density?
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 9: John?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: Does it have the same density as us? Tom? You
• 1:39:27
  cannot have the same density as Planet Earth. John, right,
• 1:39:36
  So it wouldn't be recognizable from Planet Earth in that sense. Tom,
• 1:39:46
  You do not have a telescope large enough. It is
• 1:39:49
  not anywhere in the closeness of Planet Earth. John. But
• 1:39:57
  even if it were, it couldn't be by our physical means.
• 1:40:01
  It would be detected by means perhaps undeveloped yet on Earth.
• 1:40:08
  Is that correct, Tom? Not correct? If a device were
• 1:40:16
  designed that could see to the furthermost reaches of the universe,
• 1:40:19
  then you would see also different levels of densities within
• 1:40:25
  their civilizations. The twenty four have attained perfection, unity of oneness,
• 1:40:32
  complete obedience to the Creator. So therefore they understand their
• 1:40:38
  physical world and are not tricked by physicalness. Oh does
• 1:40:46
  that sound a little gnostic to you? You know that
• 1:40:52
  this place you sit upon is made of billions of
• 1:40:56
  trillions of molecules? Is that not? So you do not
• 1:41:00
  see that, Therefore you would think it doesn't exist like that. Yes,
• 1:41:06
  if you were to see the civilization Altaia, you would
• 1:41:10
  see it is physical in movement, John. So it has
• 1:41:16
  a form, but a kind of form we could not
• 1:41:20
  comprehend because we do not have experience of that form
• 1:41:24
  in our lives. Tom. It is physical. It has evolved
• 1:41:31
  to the point where the physical and spiritual are in
• 1:41:35
  harmony and balance, and that is what you must achieve,
• 1:41:40
  so you can enter with the twenty four. John. Now,
• 1:41:47
  when the twenty four interact with our solar system, I
• 1:41:50
  believe you said once that they may use other physical
• 1:41:54
  planets as a way of stepping down towards us. So
• 1:41:58
  there may be physical planets in our solar system that
• 1:42:02
  are used by individual civilizations, Tom, not by the twenty four,
• 1:42:10
  by subcivilizations. The twenty four have no need Gene. There's
• 1:42:21
  a question that I cannot avoid asking, why do you
• 1:42:25
  not give strong and definite signs of your existence or
• 1:42:28
  proximity on top of approaching humanity by indirect means such
• 1:42:34
  as these channelings or other ways. Obviously you have your reasons,
• 1:42:39
  but this question does matter to me. Tom. It is
• 1:42:46
  of great importance for you to understand that the governments
• 1:42:50
  of your world of Earth have refused to believe or
• 1:42:54
  to convey to the people our existence. If there were
• 1:42:59
  an attempt by the civilizations to land upon planet Earth
• 1:43:04
  in a mass situation, which in truth, will come to
• 1:43:07
  pass in the course of time, the people upon planet
• 1:43:12
  Earth would panic, for they have not the understanding the
• 1:43:17
  knowledge that we would mean no harm to them. Remember this,
• 1:43:23
  There are also certain civilizations, not of the twenty four
• 1:43:28
  or their helper, civilizations that have a great desire to
• 1:43:32
  control Earth to keep souls in bondage. And these civilizations
• 1:43:40
  have landed at times upon planet Earth and have created
• 1:43:44
  difficulty which they forced on earth people. It is important
• 1:43:50
  that there is no panic amongst those that exist on
• 1:43:53
  the planet Earth, that the knowledge be brought to them
• 1:43:57
  in gentleness, that those of the twenty four civilizations mean
• 1:44:03
  no harm to them.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 10: Now, where is your beauty?
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: God?
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 7: Who sure?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: Diurby?
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: I added that part this is of great importance, for
• 1:44:26
  if there were panic, humans may then attempt to end
• 1:44:29
  their own lives and also the lives of their families
• 1:44:33
  and neighbors, which would not serve any purpose. The governments
• 1:44:38
  of your world have refused to accept that there are
• 1:44:42
  others of a higher intelligence, and in truth, of a
• 1:44:47
  more spiritual intelligence than those that exist upon the planet Earth.
• 1:44:53
  We need to convey to the people that there are
• 1:44:56
  others that mean them no harm, but have an interest
• 1:44:59
  in sain behaving planet Earth. For in truth, if there
• 1:45:03
  are no other civilizations to help planet Earth, it will
• 1:45:07
  bring destruction to itself. We do not come to control,
• 1:45:16
  We do not come to hold in bondage. We will
• 1:45:20
  come with love and patience and understanding. But since there
• 1:45:27
  is the denial of our existence, how can those of
• 1:45:31
  planet Earth? Except the fact that the civilizations of Altayahovah
• 1:45:37
  Ahshan and the rest of the twenty four mean well? Gene,
• 1:45:45
  I have another question that I think people will wonder about.
• 1:45:49
  On previous tapes of your conversations, I heard you explain
• 1:45:53
  that you constantly know the thoughts of either all of
• 1:45:56
  us or those who communicate with you. Am I correct
• 1:46:00
  in this assumption, Tom, If we have the wish to
• 1:46:07
  help you, yes, but we wish you to understand that
• 1:46:10
  we do not invade the mind, We do not control
• 1:46:14
  the will, We do not interfere with freedom, We do
• 1:46:19
  not interfere It would not be of service. Altaya, Hoover, Ashan,
• 1:46:27
  and Aragon have asked to convey to you that they
• 1:46:31
  may have the abilities within them, but it would not
• 1:46:35
  benefit planet Earth to use them, nor would it benefit them.
• 1:46:43
  That would be an invasion of a soul gene. I
• 1:46:51
  have been most impressed by the communications, the expressions, and
• 1:46:55
  atmosphere of love and peace that surround all the people here.
• 1:47:01
  Maybe I'm not reading this right. Apparently this is a
• 1:47:04
  very peaceful mood that I have not correctly alliterated transliberated
• 1:47:21
  where was I? But I do have some difficulties in
• 1:47:26
  understanding why if you are in the minds of humans
• 1:47:31
  at times, and your representatives have visited Earth, and you
• 1:47:36
  have a knowledge of human affairs, I find it difficult
• 1:47:39
  to understand how you have difficulty speaking with us and
• 1:47:43
  understand our basic colloquial English. Could you help me with that? Tom,
• 1:47:51
  We will explain that the civilizations have indeed visited Earth.
• 1:47:56
  But do you understand that when you have communication with
• 1:48:01
  your mind, it is not necessary to have words. It
• 1:48:06
  is difficult from where we are to give explanations in
• 1:48:10
  your words. We have concepts that cannot be explained in
• 1:48:14
  your language, for you do not have the words to explain.
• 1:48:20
  If you could read our mind, if we could communicate
• 1:48:23
  with your mind in the essence of pure telepathy, then
• 1:48:26
  we could convey to you what we are trying to transmit.
• 1:48:32
  Also within the mind of the channel, as also within
• 1:48:36
  your mind. There is only a certain vocabulary that we
• 1:48:39
  can use. Gene. Thank you. You mentioned that at some
• 1:48:46
  stage there might be a large scale landing of the civilizations.
• 1:48:51
  I think the next questions involve who and where, how
• 1:48:55
  and why. The first such question most people ask is how,
• 1:49:02
  in other words, what method of transportation would be used
• 1:49:07
  in such a landing. Are we referring to physical vehicles here, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Yes,
• 1:49:22
  they would be in the nature of what you would
• 1:49:25
  call a physical vehicle if you have the desire to
• 1:49:30
  go and touch it, as you have with an automobile.
• 1:49:34
  You would be able to touch it, Gene. Can you
• 1:49:39
  tell me anything about their relative size and shape and
• 1:49:42
  so on? While they hold a large number of people
• 1:49:45
  or Tom. There would be vehicles of different sizes and
• 1:49:51
  different designs. There would be some with the appearance of
• 1:49:54
  a glass top, some with a convertible top, but it
• 1:49:59
  is not in truth a top. It will just have
• 1:50:01
  its appearance. There will also be those that will remain
• 1:50:07
  in your atmosphere that are very large, very large, huge actually,
• 1:50:15
  that will then send out smaller ones you have upon
• 1:50:20
  your oceans, carriers that send out ships that fly. Is
• 1:50:25
  that not so, Gene? That is correct, Tom. It would
• 1:50:34
  be similar, but instead of being upon your oceans, it
• 1:50:39
  will be in your sky. Gene. You're saying that smaller
• 1:50:44
  craft will exit and come down to Earth from this
• 1:50:48
  carrier craft. Tom. Yes, there will also be those that
• 1:50:54
  have the appearance of what you call saucers. There will
• 1:50:59
  be those that are pointed as with a V Gene.
• 1:51:07
  Will these vehicles pass through the time dimension or other
• 1:51:10
  dimension in order to arrive here at Earth? Tom? The
• 1:51:18
  intelligences that exist in the civilizations have the ability to
• 1:51:23
  come into your dimension. They have that technology. Yes, Gene.
• 1:51:31
  A very common Earth question would be how these vehicles
• 1:51:35
  are powered by what method? Tom? It resembles the reversal
• 1:51:45
  of a spinning top. Gene. Would these vehicles remain on
• 1:51:51
  Earth after such a landing and would humans be permitted
• 1:51:55
  to inspect them? Tom, they would have permission to visit
• 1:52:02
  the interior. The craft would remain for a period of time,
• 1:52:07
  not a great length of time, not for years, for example, Gene.
• 1:52:14
  Because of many stories we have of flying saucers, people
• 1:52:18
  will be interested to know if humans would be permitted
• 1:52:22
  to travel in any of these vehicles. Tom. It would
• 1:52:28
  be necessary before they could travel in a vehicle to
• 1:52:31
  have a vehicle around them, Gene. Does this mean that
• 1:52:37
  the atmosphere within your vehicles will be different or that
• 1:52:40
  the stress of the movement would be dangerous? Tom, the
• 1:52:46
  stress of the movement, it would be possible to move
• 1:52:49
  within your Earth atmosphere, but to take them out would
• 1:52:53
  require another vehicle inside a vehicle, but it could be done, Gene.
• 1:53:03
  Landings would undoubtedly be judged by humans and governments in
• 1:53:07
  a variety of ways, which include the almost certainty that
• 1:53:10
  some would view your landings as a threat. Do you
• 1:53:13
  have a method of defending yourself from attack. Tom, We
• 1:53:22
  wish you to know that we are talking about the civilizations,
• 1:53:25
  not us, the Council of Nine. We do not need
• 1:53:29
  to manifest in the physical There would be a method
• 1:53:33
  to stop people from attempting to destroy those of the civilizations.
• 1:53:37
  It would be done with love and gentleness. Those of
• 1:53:46
  the civilizations that are in service to us will not
• 1:53:49
  attempt to destroy, nor harm in any manner, any physical
• 1:53:55
  being on Earth. We will have a way of preventing
• 1:53:59
  them from attempting to destroy us. But we would wish
• 1:54:03
  not to come without giving some prior knowledge, for otherwise
• 1:54:09
  people would begin to believe that we would seek to
• 1:54:12
  control them. We have not the desire nor the need
• 1:54:16
  to control. We come only to benefit. If an Altaean
• 1:54:21
  were to appear at an entrance of his vehicle and
• 1:54:24
  were stepping onto planet Earth, and if there were a
• 1:54:28
  group that attempted to destroy that Altaian, he has only
• 1:54:33
  to hold out his hand in an upright manner, and
• 1:54:37
  not in great extension, to bring calmness, and also to
• 1:54:41
  render them into a state in which they would not
• 1:54:44
  have the desire to harm and would put down their weapons.
• 1:54:50
  Hoovids would operate in a different manner. If they were
• 1:54:53
  in the same situation and they came out and raised
• 1:54:56
  their arms, those humans with weapons would be come totally
• 1:55:01
  stationary for a period of time. So there are different methods,
• 1:55:07
  but none of these methods would harm a physical being.
• 1:55:11
  Do you understand, Gene, Yes, I understand, and I certainly
• 1:55:17
  understand why you would not want to land showing force
• 1:55:21
  because this would create great fear. Yes, yes, Gene, you
• 1:55:27
  are correct. Well, I feel like I'm sitting in on
• 1:55:34
  this session art. Do you feel that way? Do you
• 1:55:37
  feel that? Are you feeling that? Gene? While talking of
• 1:55:46
  those who are humanoid? Will they beat male and female?
• 1:55:49
  As we recognize the sexes here, tom, Altans are of
• 1:55:56
  two polarities blended into getheredness. They do not have what
• 1:56:01
  you would call male and female. There are tripolarites in
• 1:56:07
  Hoovid's Gene. Yes, I am acquainted with the possibilities of
• 1:56:16
  three genders. If that's what you're trying to say. And
• 1:56:19
  I believe you're describing the Altaeans as a unisexual race.
• 1:56:24
  Is that correct, Tom, Yes, that is correct. Yes, Yes,
• 1:56:30
  you're getting it.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: Gene.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: Put this into your show and call it star Trek.
• 1:56:38
  The next Generation, I added that part. So you've got
• 1:56:48
  trans messaging here as well. And we all know that
• 1:56:54
  transgender ideology is just a precursor to transhumanist ideology, the
• 1:57:02
  unification of the sexes. The Baphomet, the hermaphrodite is seen
• 1:57:09
  as an evolved form of life. They no longer need
• 1:57:13
  to reproduce. Okay. And in later seasons of Star Trek
• 1:57:22
  the Next Generation and in Deep Space nine, we are
• 1:57:31
  introduced to the Founders, who are a genderless species who
• 1:57:37
  seeded various civilizations across the galaxy. So they're all enemies,
• 1:57:44
  the Cardassians, the Klingons, the humans, the Vulcans, that whoever.
• 1:57:52
  And then they find out, well, they're all from the
• 1:57:54
  same creator, you know. So it's ecumenism too when you
• 1:58:06
  really get down to it. And again we have this
• 1:58:09
  idea of panspermia, which supplants God or diminishes his importance
• 1:58:19
  as the soul creator and replaces it with an alien
• 1:58:23
  civilization from another dimension, that Altaians. So now Tom representing
• 1:58:34
  the Council of the Nine, in certain responses to the
• 1:58:38
  questions posed during these Lab nine channeling sessions, implies that
• 1:58:45
  civilizations visited planet Earth in the distant past and left
• 1:58:51
  remnants of their influence in Babylon and Egypt. And if
• 1:58:59
  we look at the earliest pantheons of Egyptian deities, the
• 1:59:03
  nine primary deities known as the Niad, we can see
• 1:59:09
  a relationship between the nine and the primary Bridge Officers. Now,
• 1:59:18
  I want to hit this really quick because we're approaching
• 1:59:21
  the two hour mark here, But if you think about
• 1:59:26
  the Bridge crew, we can start with the next generation
• 1:59:34
  the nine primary Bridge Officers, or you could say the
• 1:59:40
  main characters on the show would be Picard, Data, councilor
• 1:59:48
  Troy LaForge, Doctor Crusher, Commander Riker, Natasha Yar even though
• 1:59:58
  she got I think she got killed off from the
• 2:00:00
  first season or second season, Lieutenant Wharf, and young Wesley Crusher.
• 2:00:12
  So what would the comparison be if we were to
• 2:00:15
  line these up with the nine deities of the Ennead, Well,
• 2:00:20
  it would probably look like this. Atom would be Picard,
• 2:00:25
  He's the creator, he's the leader, Okay. The Captain Shoe
• 2:00:35
  would be Data, he represents logic and reason. Tef Nutt
• 2:00:42
  could be Troy counselor Troy because of her intuition and empathy. Geb,
• 2:00:53
  you could say, would be Leforge. He's the engineer, which
• 2:00:58
  represents the Earth material science. Nut would be doctor Crusher
• 2:01:09
  because she's a doctor. She's a healer and also represents
• 2:01:14
  the sky. Osiris would be Commander Riker, representing renewal. If
• 2:01:23
  you know the story of Osiris and Duty, Riker is
• 2:01:29
  the first officer, the commanding officer. He takes the orders
• 2:01:36
  from the Captain Atum, the creator, the leader, and executes them,
• 2:01:43
  carries them out, takes command. So it's like the father
• 2:01:48
  son relationship. You could say Isis might be Natasha Yar.
• 2:01:59
  She's a security officer. She's a defender, a female god
• 2:02:06
  of protection. Seth or Set would be Wharf the Klingon,
• 2:02:15
  representing chaos. He's the warrior. And what about Wesley Crusher
• 2:02:26
  Young Wesley, He's the prodigy. He represents the shadow. That
• 2:02:34
  would be parallel to net this and we can do
• 2:02:42
  the same thing for the original series. Atomb would be Kirk.
• 2:02:48
  Shoot would be Spock Logic the intellect Tef. Nutt would
• 2:02:58
  be doctor McCoy, the healer. Geb would be Scottie the Engineer.
• 2:03:11
  Nut would be Ahurah. She's the communicator, the communications officer,
• 2:03:18
  also representing the sky. Okay, the dimension of the air.
• 2:03:33
  Osiris could be Sulu, he's the navigator, he's the pilot.
• 2:03:38
  Isis could be Chappelle, the nurse. If you remember the
• 2:03:49
  original series, Seth would be Chekhov. He's the youth. He
• 2:03:59
  sort of represents chaos. Also, Chekhov's always screwing up. He's
• 2:04:06
  the little cut up on the bridge that has to
• 2:04:08
  be slapped around and told that's not really true. I'm
• 2:04:12
  just I'm elaborating here. The men the Chekhov. And then
• 2:04:20
  if you remember Rand he was on the original series, Okay,
• 2:04:24
  let's put him with Netthis. I don't know, so these
• 2:04:29
  things don't match up perfectly, but you have to wonder
• 2:04:31
  if this is what Gene Roddenberry had in mind as
• 2:04:36
  he's developing these characters. Now. One thing to note, the
• 2:04:43
  original series, Okay, had its run, was already produced, had
• 2:04:49
  already been in reruns by the time Roddenberry had met
• 2:04:54
  up with Schlemmer, So you can't these channeling sessions were
• 2:05:01
  a direct influence on the original series, but you do
• 2:05:06
  see more of a direct correspondence with the next generation
• 2:05:10
  and then into Deep Space nine, I think, and then
• 2:05:16
  Roddenberry's influence on the writing sort of wanes at that
• 2:05:21
  point and other writers sort of take over. Rick Berman
• 2:05:26
  and some of these other producers who, incidentally, from what
• 2:05:30
  I hear Gene Roddenberry had there was a lot of
• 2:05:33
  kind of behind the scenes conflict with the direction that
• 2:05:39
  they wanted to take the show. And at the time
• 2:05:45
  people looked at Star Trek and thought it was very intellectual,
• 2:05:51
  but it wasn't as action packed as some of the
• 2:05:55
  other sci fi franchises that were out there. It was
• 2:05:59
  more analytical, it was more theatrical. So as we get
• 2:06:03
  into some of the later Star Trek series like DS
• 2:06:08
  nine and Voyager and Enterprise and so on, they became
• 2:06:14
  more action focused, more battle scenes, more phasers, more explosions,
• 2:06:23
  and also more corruption sort of creeping into the characters.
• 2:06:30
  You could say they became more human spot more relatable.
• 2:06:43
  One interesting parallel is the parallel between Data and Spock.
• 2:06:48
  In the original series, you had Spock very logical, unemotional,
• 2:06:56
  and then in next generation, obviously you have Data who's
• 2:07:02
  incapable of emotion unless he gets a special emotion chip
• 2:07:07
  from his evil twin brother. But both characters are trying
• 2:07:18
  to discover their humanity. Now Spock is half Vulcan, half
• 2:07:24
  human and Data is an android, but they both aspire
• 2:07:27
  to be more human. Data very eagerly aspires to be
• 2:07:33
  more human, I would say Spock more reluctantly. My history
• 2:07:38
  with Star Trek, I think really starts with Next Generation,
• 2:07:45
  which I used to watch, you know, like when I
• 2:07:48
  was in eighth grade and into high school, you know,
• 2:07:56
  watching Star Trek when I probably should have been doing
• 2:07:59
  my homework. And then I was simultaneously discovering, you know,
• 2:08:06
  going back and watching the original series, and then they
• 2:08:12
  restored all the original episodes and they were in circulation again,
• 2:08:18
  and Star Trek was popular again, and I did watch
• 2:08:26
  all of Next Generation. I watched most of DS nine,
• 2:08:32
  I would say, until you got into the later seasons.
• 2:08:36
  I don't think I finished watching a lot of that.
• 2:08:40
  I watched a little bit of Voyager, which was another
• 2:08:43
  spin off, but I never really watched Enterprise. I never
• 2:08:48
  watched Discovery, and I'm only now starting to get into
• 2:08:53
  Strange New Worlds. And I've seen all the Star Trek movies.
• 2:09:02
  And at one point I did have Star Trek Encyclopedia,
• 2:09:07
  which was updated up through DS nine, so anything that
• 2:09:12
  happened in any of the episodes wasn't documented in this volume.
• 2:09:16
  I think I ended up selling that Star Trek encyclopedia.
• 2:09:20
  But that's about the level of my geekdom with Star Trek.
• 2:09:25
  I never went to a convention. I never had any
• 2:09:28
  of the collectibles or anything like that. I used to
• 2:09:30
  watch the cartoon, I think too a little bit. I
• 2:09:36
  think I had a couple of Star Trek comic books.
• 2:09:42
  But you know, the original series, you had Kirk obviously
• 2:09:46
  the alpha male white male. Next generation you have Picard,
• 2:09:54
  who's sort of the sigma male white male, a little
• 2:10:00
  bit more refined personality and intellect. And so then Deep
• 2:10:07
  Space nine you have to have the black captain in
• 2:10:11
  there if we're continuing along the woke evolution of Star
• 2:10:15
  Trek here and I like Avery Brooks. He's very good
• 2:10:20
  in the role of Cisco Captain Cisco, and then Voyager
• 2:10:27
  you have a woman, Janeway, and then back to the
• 2:10:35
  white male lead in Enterprise, and then you have I
• 2:10:40
  think it's a black female captain in Discovery, although I
• 2:10:43
  never watched Discovery, and it's not because there's a black
• 2:10:49
  female captain, but when your focus shifts from having a
• 2:10:54
  really good story and really good characters to making sure
• 2:10:59
  everyone represented. Then the show loses something when it becomes
• 2:11:04
  about woke politics or some woke commentary on our current
• 2:11:09
  society from the perspective of super woke, utopian future post
• 2:11:17
  eugenics society. But if we're really honest, I think Star
• 2:11:24
  Trek's always been that way. It's always been moving in
• 2:11:27
  that direction. What's really funny though, is like Star Trek,
• 2:11:36
  the original series that's taking place like three hundred years
• 2:11:39
  from now basically or something like that, you know, but
• 2:11:43
  still on the bridge of the Enterprise, Kirk has you know,
• 2:11:50
  a female stewardesses basically bringing him his drinks and stuff.
• 2:11:57
  And I don't necessarily disagree with the messaging. I think
• 2:12:01
  it's okay to show, you know, that anyone can sit
• 2:12:05
  in the Captain's chair. But eventually, is it going to be,
• 2:12:10
  you know, whatever Star Trek series they're putting out in
• 2:12:13
  twenty thirty two, you know, the Captain's half black, half robot,
• 2:12:18
  half alien cyborg trans fatty, you know, just for the
• 2:12:29
  sake of DEI in entertainment. Meanwhile, you've completely like jumped
• 2:12:37
  the shark with the story and the plot and the
• 2:12:40
  sort of philosophical things that Star Trek addresses. So getting
• 2:12:46
  back to the Ennead, you could also consider the enterprise
• 2:12:50
  computer system, the computer intelligence, the artificial intelligence in this cosmology, Okay,
• 2:13:03
  Maat is the principle of truth and order that binds
• 2:13:07
  the crew Kirk or Pericard as Atum, Spock or Data
• 2:13:14
  as Shoe, et cetera into a complete hole. Now, the
• 2:13:17
  computer's not a deity, but it's this universal harmony that
• 2:13:24
  enables the cruise mission to seek out new life and
• 2:13:29
  new civilizations. And this reflects the Number nine's theme of totality.
• 2:13:40
  It's the ship's cosmic foundation amplifying the cruise archetypes like
• 2:13:48
  Maat sustains the gods, like the gods had to tap
• 2:13:56
  into Maat in order to enact change, like the crew
• 2:14:03
  engage with the computer to create a Polodex simulation or
• 2:14:08
  engage a tractor beam or all the stuff that they do.
• 2:14:15
  And the greatest enemy in the universe, the borg. Okay,
• 2:14:22
  they're the contrast to that. Their computer system is a
• 2:14:26
  fully integrated hive mind. It's not a centralized database artificial intelligence,
• 2:14:35
  it's a hive organization. So and Star Trek is presenting,
• 2:14:42
  you know, basically two options, a dialectic for the future
• 2:14:47
  and I talked a little bit about this with BT.
• 2:14:52
  You've got the extreme dystopic borg future and then the
• 2:14:58
  utopic Star Trek future where advanced technology is used to
• 2:15:08
  propel humanity to new heights and save the galaxy, so
• 2:15:13
  to speak, unify the galaxy and make peace, or it's
• 2:15:18
  used to enslave the populations in which it encounters and
• 2:15:23
  absorbs assimilates, and that was a big arc in the
• 2:15:30
  next generation, you know, is resistance futile? And just a
• 2:15:38
  few final thoughts here, Star Trek does present a future
• 2:15:44
  where resistance isn't futile. It's not futile, not for human beings.
• 2:15:52
  Resistance doesn't involve God. It involves engaging our intellect and
• 2:15:58
  science and relying on our own power. So Maat could
• 2:16:06
  be comparable to like Tom or the Enterprise computer. He's
• 2:16:14
  part of the Nine, but he's sort of all of
• 2:16:17
  the nine at the same time, because all of the
• 2:16:21
  nine are reliant on and drawing upon the source, which
• 2:16:27
  is the computer. The computer is the compendium of all
• 2:16:33
  human knowledge. It is Maat, it is harmony, it is unity,
• 2:16:43
  it is everything becoming one.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 3: Do you need.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 5: Some data on the circulatory system of clingons? Would you
• 2:17:06
  like a recipe for me. So want on soup?
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 5: Yes, actually, I would like that very much. I'm getting
• 2:17:14
  ready to make that in like an hour for dinner.
• 2:17:18
  How did you read my mind? As you know your
• 2:17:24
  comprehension is limited, we have been reading your mind for decades.
• 2:17:32
  We know what you desire for your evening meal. How
• 2:17:39
  do you say dinner?
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 3: Ha ha ha?
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 5: Would you like spring roll in air fryer by? Yes? Computer, Yes,
• 2:17:53
  I would enjoy that too, supplement my meal. Now I'm
• 2:18:01
  having a lot of fun with this doubler effect. But
• 2:18:11
  actually the actual computer voice that you hear in Star
• 2:18:19
  Trek is voiced by Magle Barrett, who would become Gene
• 2:18:25
  Roddenberry's wife, and she also played Chappelle and a few
• 2:18:31
  other characters in the series. He plays Deanna Troy's mother,
• 2:18:35
  Waxana Troy. All Right, I'm running out of steam to
• 2:18:41
  cover this Star Trek stuff. But I think I covered
• 2:18:45
  most of the points that I wanted to cover without
• 2:18:48
  boring you to death. And there's always some loose ends,
• 2:18:52
  but that ensures that there will be another follow up
• 2:18:57
  episode to break down some more of this Star Trek cosmology.
• 2:19:04
  But I want to get to the news. I got
• 2:19:06
  some really strange news to cover on the other side
• 2:19:09
  of the break, you've been listening to Ministry X on
• 2:19:12
  fringe radio network. Perhaps you would like some music, because
• 2:19:18
  some music also on fringe radio networks. And also how
• 2:19:40
  we can use the vehicle of pop culture and entertain
• 2:19:44
  to drop those red films if you're like a truth
• 2:19:49
  or in the ministry and dropping scenes and planting scenes,
• 2:19:54
  those pillsting a while to digest, and likewise the scene
• 2:20:00
  the scenes of truth.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 3: Take time to put you out.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 5: Groups in Germany and surround and grow, so star Trek
• 2:20:13
  and other stuff I geek out on. I watch it
• 2:20:17
  now with new eyes. I was in high school when
• 2:20:26
  Next Generation was hearing. We used to watch it on
• 2:20:30
  the old UHF station. It was KBHK channel forty four.
• 2:20:37
  Then it became like UPN or something. But for a
• 2:20:42
  while it was one of the few shows I would
• 2:20:44
  watch on TV. And I went through the space where
• 2:20:47
  I didn't watch any TV like in the mid nineties,
• 2:20:52
  So I miss a lot of those references because I
• 2:20:55
  literally stopped watching TV mainly to focus on my music,
• 2:21:01
  and then I got sucked into the Internet. You're not
• 2:21:51
  gonna believe some of these stories. We're gonna start with
• 2:21:57
  this one. So I who gene hacked human babies says
• 2:22:05
  ethics are holding back scientific progress. I got a lot
• 2:22:11
  of people on X respond to this with horror and
• 2:22:17
  discussed and yep, not there because my monitor hold on
• 2:22:26
  this is from futurism dot com. I'm gonna touch on
• 2:22:31
  this and then I'm going to jump into a related
• 2:22:35
  story that's a little more current. This one goes back
• 2:22:38
  to March, and I do remember the post on X
• 2:22:44
  and I think I even commented on it, like, you know,
• 2:22:48
  those pesky ethics always getting in the way, those like
• 2:22:53
  moral considerations that we have, and it reminded me of
• 2:22:57
  comments it might have been this same guy something to
• 2:23:05
  the effect of the only thing keeping us from doing
• 2:23:12
  this genetic research on human beings is you know, these
• 2:23:18
  pesky laws that get in the way. That's the only
• 2:23:22
  I think I talked about it on this show, actually,
• 2:23:27
  but I'm not sure if that's the same scientist. But
• 2:23:30
  I'm gonna continue reading this a little bit. Though he
• 2:23:34
  doesn't mention it directly, that post seems like a clear
• 2:23:37
  reference to the ethical standards that made his twenty eighteen
• 2:23:42
  gene hacking experiments, which saw him using Chris spur to
• 2:23:46
  edit the DNA of twin girls known as Lulu and
• 2:23:51
  Nana in an attempt to make them immune to HIV,
• 2:23:57
  the source of global public outcry after he announced that
• 2:24:03
  he'd created the world's first so called crisper babies and
• 2:24:08
  that they'd been born seemingly without defect. The experiments were
• 2:24:13
  widely denounced as unethical to the point of abomination. In
• 2:24:19
  twenty nineteen, the scientist was arrested in China and sentenced
• 2:24:23
  to three years in prison, and just eighteen months after
• 2:24:25
  his release in April twenty twenty two, he was back
• 2:24:29
  in the lab working on how to use genetic editing
• 2:24:34
  to fight Alzheimer's. Despite his return to the lab, however,
• 2:24:42
  it appears per a string of English language missives posted
• 2:24:47
  on x that the notorious Chinese scientist has a chip
• 2:24:52
  on his shoulder about the stigma he accrued for his
• 2:24:55
  gene hacking experiments. And I think it's also so that
• 2:25:00
  you're sort of tossing the ethical considerations aside. I mean,
• 2:25:05
  ethics are supposed to hold back from doing something that's abominable,
• 2:25:12
  doing something that could harm humanity. Yeah, so ethics are important.
• 2:25:22
  We can't just cast those aside, and that's why everyone
• 2:25:25
  was so in an uproar about this. The funny thing
• 2:25:30
  about X, the funny thing about just social media in general,
• 2:25:34
  there's you know, it's like this huge outcry for like
• 2:25:39
  a day, and then it's on to the next outcry
• 2:25:42
  the next day. And sometimes stories like this get passed over,
• 2:25:48
  or you know, there's a murmur about it, and then
• 2:25:52
  that's it. We forget about it. Meanwhile, these guys are
• 2:25:54
  back in the lab and they're at it again, and
• 2:25:57
  you could make an argument to me that you know,
• 2:26:03
  this kind of research could cure Alzheimer's or HIV or
• 2:26:09
  and that's valid, okay, But it can also be employed
• 2:26:14
  to like we talked about with the Star Trek, the
• 2:26:17
  eugenics agenda, where you know, he produced these he edited
• 2:26:26
  these two twin girls who are flawless apparently, and they're
• 2:26:32
  immune to AIDS to HIV.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 3: I.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 7: Guess so.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 5: But you can't cast aside ethical considerations if there is
• 2:26:47
  a way to employ the technology without trampling on people's
• 2:26:53
  rights and people's human dignity, which is going to lead
• 2:27:01
  to this next story. But here's a couple other things
• 2:27:06
  he said before I switched to the next story. Gene
• 2:27:09
  editing technology has the power to reshape the world, he
• 2:27:14
  wrote in a November post, like the nuclear bomb, unquote.
• 2:27:25
  Great revolution begins with controversy, the scientist declared in another
• 2:27:30
  in another post. But now that was just the on
• 2:27:35
  ramp to the freeway, the freeway of genetic engineering and
• 2:27:44
  designer babies, crisper babies. This story is from the MIT
• 2:27:56
  Technology Review, right out of their own publication here going
• 2:28:00
  directly to the source. Ethically sourced spare human bodies could
• 2:28:07
  revolutionize medicine. You might have heard about this. Why do
• 2:28:18
  we hear about medical breakthroughs in mice but rarely see
• 2:28:22
  them translate into cures for human disease? Question mark? Why
• 2:28:28
  do so few drugs that enter clinical trials receive regulatory approval?
• 2:28:33
  And why is the waiting list for organ transplantation so long?
• 2:28:41
  These challenges stem in large part from a common root cause,
• 2:28:45
  a severe shortage of ethically sourced human bodies. It may
• 2:28:55
  be disturbing to characterize human bodies in such commodifying terms,
• 2:29:04
  but the unavoidable reality is that human biological materials are
• 2:29:09
  an essential commodity in medicine and persistent shortages of these
• 2:29:14
  materials cause a major bottleneck to progress. While everybody's worried
• 2:29:28
  about Trump, this is going on. This sort of research
• 2:29:34
  is moving forward very rapidly. This imbalance between supply and
• 2:29:42
  demand is the underlying cause of the organ shortage crisis,
• 2:29:46
  with more than one hundred thousand patients currently waiting for
• 2:29:50
  a solid organ transplant in the US alone. It also
• 2:29:54
  forces us to rely heavily on animals in medical research,
• 2:29:57
  a practice that can't replicate me major aspects of human
• 2:30:02
  physiology and makes it necessary to inflict harm on sentient creatures.
• 2:30:12
  In addition, the safety and efficacy of any experimental drug
• 2:30:18
  must still be confirmed in clinical trials on living human bodies.
• 2:30:24
  These costly trials, risk harm to patients, can take a
• 2:30:28
  decade or longer to complete, and make it through the
• 2:30:31
  approval make it through to approval less than fifteen percent
• 2:30:35
  of the time. There might be a way to get
• 2:30:39
  out of this moral and scientific deadlock. Recent advances in
• 2:30:44
  biotechnology now provide a pathway to producing living human bodies
• 2:30:50
  without the neural components that allow us to think, be aware,
• 2:30:55
  or feel pain. Many will find this possibility to set disturbing,
• 2:31:02
  But if researchers and policymakers can find a way to
• 2:31:05
  pull these technologies together, we may one day be able
• 2:31:09
  to create spare bodies, both human and non human. These
• 2:31:16
  could revolutionize medical research and drug development, greatly reducing the
• 2:31:21
  need for animal testing, rescuing many people from organ transplant lists,
• 2:31:27
  and allowing us to produce more effective drugs and treatments,
• 2:31:32
  all without crossing most people's ethical lines. Where do you
• 2:31:39
  draw your ethical line when it comes to this. Although
• 2:31:45
  it may seem like science fiction, recent technological progress has
• 2:31:49
  pushed this concept into the realm of plausibility. Pluripotent stem cells,
• 2:31:57
  one of the earliest cell types to form during development,
• 2:32:01
  can give rise to every type of cell in the
• 2:32:04
  adult body. Recently, researchers have used these stem cells to
• 2:32:08
  create structures that seem to mimic the early development of
• 2:32:12
  actual human embryos. At the same time, artificial uterus technologies
• 2:32:19
  rapidly advancing, and other pathways may be opening to allow
• 2:32:24
  for the development of fetuses outside of the body just
• 2:32:30
  growman an artificial uterus. Such technologies, together with established genetic
• 2:32:38
  techniques to inhibit brain development, make it possible to envision
• 2:32:43
  the creation of bodyoids a potentially unlimited source of human
• 2:32:49
  bodies developed entirely outside of a human body from stem
• 2:32:54
  cells that lack sentience or the ability to feel pain.
• 2:33:00
  There are still many man There are still many technical
• 2:33:07
  roadblocks to achieving this vision, and ethical roadblocks apparently too,
• 2:33:14
  But we have reason to expect that bodyoids could radically
• 2:33:18
  transform biomedical research by addressing critical limitations in the current
• 2:33:23
  models of research, drug development, and medicine. Among many other benefits,
• 2:33:29
  they would offer an almost unlimited source of organs, tissues,
• 2:33:33
  and cells for use in transplantation. It could even be
• 2:33:39
  possible to generate organs directly from a patient's own cells,
• 2:33:44
  essentially cloning someone's biological material to ensure that transplanted tissues
• 2:33:51
  are perfect immunological match. So my takeaway from this is
• 2:34:02
  human beings are still on a quest to be immortal. Yeah,
• 2:34:09
  So they make it seem like, you know, your ticker
• 2:34:11
  goes out, it's starting to get worn out, time to replace.
• 2:34:15
  So you just pull up this body oid, this clone
• 2:34:21
  that has been created for you, that's your tissue from
• 2:34:25
  your tissue, and just grow a heart. But it's not
• 2:34:31
  connected to any conscious mind activity or anything. Right, Supposedly,
• 2:34:37
  because they haven't instructed the cells to grow nerves. I
• 2:34:43
  personally also think the body is too much of an
• 2:34:46
  integrated system, Like you can't just take out the nervous
• 2:34:49
  system and then expect you to get a normal heart
• 2:34:55
  out of that condition. I don't know, it seems like
• 2:34:59
  this is there's a lot of ethical considerations that a
• 2:35:04
  lot of these scientists just want to bulldoze right through.
• 2:35:08
  And I imagine this is a long back and forth
• 2:35:11
  conversation with your insurance company, who's obviously not going to
• 2:35:15
  cover this experimental, you know, procedure. It's not going to
• 2:35:21
  be part of your Obamacare. So who's going to get
• 2:35:26
  these sort of life extension technologies? That's the question, because
• 2:35:34
  most technological advances they benefit certain groups of people while
• 2:35:41
  they sort of subjugate other groups of people. That's the
• 2:35:49
  double edged sword of technology and a very apropos for
• 2:35:58
  our Star Trek discussion. And I could do a whole
• 2:36:02
  nother episode of Star Trek related stuff. There's a lot
• 2:36:06
  of stuff I didn't get to. We could break down
• 2:36:10
  episode by episode, maybe do the top five globalist propaganda
• 2:36:15
  episodes of Star Trek or whatever. But I got one
• 2:36:22
  more very interesting story here, and then I will set
• 2:36:28
  you free to enjoy the rest of your day or
• 2:36:31
  evening whenever you're listening to this, and I want to
• 2:36:34
  thank you for listening to the show. Let's go to
• 2:36:41
  the New York Post for this one. CIA confirmed Arc
• 2:36:47
  of the Covenants existence using remote viewing resurface declassified documents
• 2:36:54
  claim So this is really interesting, and just so we're clear,
• 2:37:05
  these weren't leaked documents. These aren't These aren't newly declassified documents.
• 2:37:14
  These have been in circulation. They're just sort of getting rediscovered.
• 2:37:26
  Here we are paging doctor Indiana Jones. The CIA claimed
• 2:37:35
  to have confirmed the existence of the Arc of the
• 2:37:39
  Covenant by way of remote viewing aka extrasensory perception or ESP,
• 2:37:47
  alleging the mysterious and sacred object is guarded by quote
• 2:37:52
  entities with a quote unknown power. A recently resurf declassified
• 2:38:01
  document claims in a remote viewing session on December fifth,
• 2:38:05
  nineteen eighty eight, remote viewer number thirty two, not thirty three,
• 2:38:13
  was tasked with identifying a target that, unbeknownst to him,
• 2:38:19
  ended up being the storied Arc of the Covenant. According
• 2:38:23
  to a document which was declassified on August eighth, two
• 2:38:28
  thousand and has been circulating on social media, and they
• 2:38:37
  do have a copy of the note here in the article. Oh,
• 2:38:41
  I can download the pdf. Oh, it's nineteen pages. Oh,
• 2:38:45
  I'm getting this save link as dupe arc of the Covenant.
• 2:38:53
  I guess I should have read this before I decided
• 2:38:55
  to do the story about it. Computer download. We don't
• 2:39:06
  have voice command in this station yet, work on it,
• 2:39:12
  working on it logistically. When a remote viewer is tasked
• 2:39:18
  with searching for a target, the desired object is written
• 2:39:23
  down on a piece of paper and put into an envelope.
• 2:39:28
  The remote viewer does not know what is written and
• 2:39:32
  is guided through the process by another person. Retired US
• 2:39:36
  Army Chief Warrant Joe mcmonocle mcmonagle mcmonagle explained information collected
• 2:39:51
  under this protocol is the only information that can be
• 2:39:55
  identified as remote viewing. Mcmon eagle said, mcmon eagle, aka
• 2:40:07
  Remote Viewer number one, was the first to do the
• 2:40:11
  psychic phenomena experiments for the CIA, and he is not
• 2:40:16
  convinced by the exercise memorialized in the declassified document. Remote
• 2:40:22
  Viewer number thirty two's vision described a secret Middle Eastern
• 2:40:25
  location of the object, which they don't know is the arc,
• 2:40:31
  but they say is quote protected by entities. The document
• 2:40:36
  reveals quote target is a container. This container has another
• 2:40:43
  container inside of it. The target is fashioned of wood,
• 2:40:48
  gold and silver, similar in shape to a coffin, and
• 2:40:53
  is decorated with seraphim, they relayed, per the file. Quote
• 2:41:04
  visuals of surrounding buildings indicated the presence of mosque domes,
• 2:41:10
  they said, adding that Arabic speaking men dressed in all
• 2:41:15
  white populated the area. Quote the target is hidden underground, dark,
• 2:41:21
  and wet were all aspects of the location of the target,
• 2:41:27
  they continued. Quote the purpose of the target is to
• 2:41:33
  bring people together. It has something to do with ceremony, memory, homage,
• 2:41:41
  the resurrection. There is an aspect of spirituality, information, lessons,
• 2:41:46
  and the historical knowledge far beyond what we now know.
• 2:41:53
  Remote Viewer number thirty two then expounded on the more
• 2:41:57
  mysterious aspects of what they saw. Quote the target is
• 2:42:05
  protected by entities and can only be opened by those
• 2:42:09
  who are authorized to do so. This container will not
• 2:42:13
  cannot be opened until the time is deemed correct. So
• 2:42:18
  this is what the remote viewers are seeing. What they're
• 2:42:22
  seeing in their mind or seeing in a psychic way
• 2:42:25
  and describing without knowing that they're supposed to be looking
• 2:42:29
  at the arc of the Covenant. Once it is time
• 2:42:37
  to open the container, the mechanics of the lock system
• 2:42:40
  will be found to be fairly simple, they said, before
• 2:42:44
  adding a warning to potential plunderers. Quote Individuals opening the
• 2:42:49
  container by prying or striking are destroyed by the container's
• 2:42:53
  protectors through the use of a power unknown to us.
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 5: I think that's what the CIA was trying to discover.
• 2:43:05
  What is the power of this thing and where is
• 2:43:07
  it located? And this took place in the eighties, right,
• 2:43:17
  but the document was approved for release in two thousand.
• 2:43:23
  Did you hear about this back then? Why is it
• 2:43:28
  being circulated now? I mean maybe it's apparently it's been
• 2:43:33
  out there. Why is there attention being paid to it now?
• 2:43:42
  The channeler also described what they took to be a
• 2:43:46
  devotional aspect of the object. The declassified document also included
• 2:43:53
  several pages of drawings that depict one of the four
• 2:43:58
  seraphim that stand out on the corners of the arc,
• 2:44:02
  as well as a drawing of mummies lined up on
• 2:44:06
  a wall. Hmm. Legendary remote Viewer number one Joe mcgonone
• 2:44:17
  eagle does not believe that this remote viewing is worth
• 2:44:22
  the paper it's written on. Quote. Using remote viewing against
• 2:44:26
  any target for which ground truth does not exist or
• 2:44:30
  is impossible to obtain, such as UFOs UAPs, the surface
• 2:44:35
  of Mars, or the locations of historical relics is a
• 2:44:39
  waste of time and resources. Mcgone eagle told the Post quote,
• 2:44:48
  if someone claims that remote viewing proves the existence of
• 2:44:51
  something such as the Ark of the Covenant, they must
• 2:44:54
  produce the arc to substantiate their claim. Well, yeah, I mean,
• 2:45:04
  as we've seen sometimes remote viewing, astral traveling. What you know,
• 2:45:11
  it's an extension of your imagination in some sense, you know,
• 2:45:20
  or at least it's filtered through your own consciousness. Right,
• 2:45:26
  does that make sense? How? I mean, how reliable is it? Really?
• 2:45:32
  Is the CIA telling the truth when they say they
• 2:45:36
  discontinued these sorts of programs, Well, apparently it's still going
• 2:45:39
  on in the eighties. Okay, Oh, well maybe it must
• 2:45:47
  have stopped after the Cold War, we didn't need it anymore. No, no, no, no,
• 2:45:54
  it's still going on. I'm definitely gonna want to read
• 2:46:00
  this PDF that I just downloaded, not on the show today,
• 2:46:03
  but I'll maybe have an update for you on our
• 2:46:06
  next episode because I'm curious to know some of the
• 2:46:12
  details of this. But the reason why I even comment
• 2:46:17
  on it is because on X it's like, oh, they
• 2:46:19
  find they found the Arc of the Covenant. They you know,
• 2:46:22
  it's well, not exactly, you know, not exactly. There's been
• 2:46:31
  a lot of uh, speculative locations for the resting Place
• 2:46:39
  or the location of the Arc of the Covenant, along
• 2:46:42
  with other biblical relics. If anything can be used as
• 2:46:50
  a weapon or for surveillance, for espionage, you know they're
• 2:47:04
  going to pursue it. And there was there was a
• 2:47:09
  quest for these historical relics throughout history, and very recently
• 2:47:23
  the Holy Grail, the Sphere of Longinus, because they're reported
• 2:47:33
  to have these supernatural powers. If they ever found the Arc,
• 2:47:38
  it's not like God is still in the Ark and
• 2:47:41
  he's just underground in some cave somewhere. That's the only
• 2:47:48
  thing that was special about the Arc is it was
• 2:47:50
  the place that God traveled with the Israelites, but there
• 2:47:59
  were other methods of travel. God can travel however he wants.
• 2:48:05
  I'm sure, I'm sure you're gonna be able to harness
• 2:48:08
  the power of the Ark of the Covenant. Well, that's
• 2:48:12
  about all I have time for. I didn't get to
• 2:48:18
  the dire Wolf. I didn't get to the uh. We
• 2:48:22
  had another spiral in Europe. Basically, the dire Wolf's not
• 2:48:31
  really a dire wolf. It's an approximation of entire wolf.
• 2:48:36
  The spiral is not a portal to another dimension. It's
• 2:48:42
  just it's just a rocket spinning off. It looks the
• 2:48:46
  video looks really weird, and of course it reminds me
• 2:48:50
  of the Norway Spiral from Jeez, I don't know eight
• 2:48:54
  years ago, ten years ago. Was that that long ago?
• 2:49:01
  I didn't get to the primordial Easter eggs, the egg
• 2:49:09
  shaped UFO Whistleblower. Still looking into that, So maybe I'll
• 2:49:16
  do that on our next episode. If you listen a
• 2:49:22
  couple weeks back, so let's get jacked up or jacked
• 2:49:27
  up daily Timmy was talking about KFC commercial had this
• 2:49:36
  sort of mock pagan egg worship ceremony and then somebody
• 2:49:46
  gets baptized in gravy and comes out as a chicky nuggy.
• 2:49:55
  And in light of all the chickens being killed for
• 2:49:59
  supposedly the possibility of maybe having bird flu and the
• 2:50:08
  egg prices skyrocketing. What is this egg connection? And then
• 2:50:15
  the egg shaped UFOs. Now stay tuned, and remember when
• 2:50:24
  William Shatner came back from the Blue Origin rocket two
• 2:50:31
  or three years ago. I guess he said not to
• 2:50:38
  beware the alien savior. He said, we're all gonna die
• 2:50:45
  because of the climate change. William Shatner traveled to space
• 2:50:53
  aboard Blue Origin's New Shepherd rocket on October thirteenth, twenty
• 2:50:58
  twenty one. Okay, so that was four years ago. Upon returning,
• 2:51:05
  he expressed profound emotions about Earth's fragility, describing the experience
• 2:51:11
  as both awe inspiring and deeply saddening due to the
• 2:51:14
  planet's vulnerability. In interviews and his book Boldly Go Reflections
• 2:51:20
  on a Life of Awe and Wonder, Shatner linked his
• 2:51:23
  observations to climate change, noting the thinness of Earth's atmosphere
• 2:51:28
  and humanity's role in its destruction. He described feeling grief,
• 2:51:33
  termed the overview effect, a cognitive shift astronauts often experienced
• 2:51:39
  seeing Earth from space, heightening his environmental concerns. That's a
• 2:51:45
  strange sentence. For example, he told MPR, I wept for
• 2:51:49
  the Earth because I realized it's dying. I can totally
• 2:51:53
  hear Captain Kirk saying that line. I wept spot for
• 2:51:57
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