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Jezebel is No More, George Orwell is Finally Cancelled | HBR News 431 · Honey Badger Radio

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  This is HBr News number four thirty one, Jezebel is no More, George
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  Orwell is Finally Canceled, where we discuss the news of the week and give
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  it the Badger treatment. Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
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  I hope you guys are doing well this week and that you're laughing all of
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  this absurdity so that you are not consumed by it. I am your host,
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  Brian Martinez, and I'm joined by, as always, my lovely co
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  show line up for you guys today, so please be sure to continue the
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  conversations both in the chat as well as the comments section. On this week's
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  HBr News show. We're going to be talking about the latest news of Jezebel
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  finally closing its doors, shutting down and what that might mean, as well
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  as I guess there we're also layoffs in related media. Just put it that
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  way, a woman is saved from a mugger by a good guy with a
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  gun, but laments it. George Orwell is considered problematic and more so,
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  stick around. It's gonna be a good time. And be sure to join
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  us afterwards for the Patron Only Show. So you guys might have heard that
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  the latest outing of strong female characters in the in the in the world of
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  film has well it basically went belly up. The Marvels, which was released
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  last week, is essentially the biggest failure in all of the history. Nobody
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  went to see it. Very underwhelming box office, but that doesn't stop some
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  really intellectually like powerful people like Stephen King from essentially taking jabs at the fan
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  base for not giving their hard earned dollars to a movie that apparently exists to
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  make them feel like crap about themselves. So he's asking that people stop gloating
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  over the failure at the box office. You know, I thought that we
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  were against like these gigantic, multi billion dollar corporations making money, but I
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  com. All right, With all of that out of the way, we
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  are going to get ourselves stuck into the stories, and we are starting with
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  Jezebel. Rip F's in the chat for Jezebel. Okay, Mike Jay,
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  I'm gonna hand it over to you. Well, thank you, Brian.
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  So. As many of you may have heard, American media holding company Go
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  Media, famous for running such publications as Kottaku, Deadspin, and The Root,
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  have announced that they are suspending a publication of online that feminist magazine a
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  Jezebel. The suspension comes amid turmoil from the world of online media during twenty
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  twenty three, as many companies have either closed their doors or engaged in brutal
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  rounds of layoffs and firings. Other outlets that have been shown it like so
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  many feminist projects, all it ever was was following the path of least resistance,
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  which is always step one simp for women, Step two question mark,
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  step three profit. And it turns out step two is get sky hooked by
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  a larger company with more money than Sensor, or a larger company with more
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  ideological tunnel vision than money, such as the likes of Gorka and this Geo
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  thing that bailed them out, and Gorka took a hull Cogan flying clothesline to
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  the knee as one the point is. There's there's the reason Jezebel had to
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  die. While Honey Badger Radio and Advice for Men, the nemesisse are still
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  going strong and will continue to go strong for a long time because we have
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  a slow but steady force that was founded by volunteers and is maintained by volunteers
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  and paid for by volunteers. No paycheck of any size can motivate a grifter
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  as much as the truth can motivate a critical mass of reasonably stubborn individuals with
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  no fucks left give. That's why we call it grassroots. It doesn't grow
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  very tall, but it's capable of growing everywhere wherever it grows it. Hello,
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  Mike, did we lose Mike? I think we did. Will not
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  grow back briefly. Yeah, now you're you're cutting out a little bit?
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  Is it? Is it a noise robot to me? I guess robot ship.
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  Well yeah, you sound fine to us. But it might be on
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  your end. Maybe the internet thing. Yeah, it might be an Internet.
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  I'm looking at my Internet. It looks fine, so it must be.
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  He's probably something I'm down on a little bit. I'm bound bandwidth.
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  I will say this. Jezebel is not alone, all right. I like
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  to find crazy things in feminist publications for for my after shows as much as
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  I can. You know that we could laugh at them when we're reading,
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  because you know who thinks that way and stuff. And I used to be
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  able to go to a whole bunch of very classic, longstanding feminist blogs,
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  and in the last three or four years they have all stopped publication. Jezebel
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  is just the latest one, and UH, to me, it's it's sort
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  of bittersweet. It's it's definitely something to celebrate, not in a there.
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  You know, they're not being censored. People just aren't bothering to to go
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  to their sites. They're not being read there. Nobody cares what they have
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  to say, like their their vision is not shared. And that's not censorship.
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  That's people having a different perspective than them and disagreeing with them and and
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  not having an interest in in theirs. And that's perfectly fine, right.
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  The only sad thing about it is who are we going to laugh at when
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  they're gone? You know, because I don't really wanna. I don't want
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  to resort to to reading David Foutrell in in the UH in the after shows.
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  That's that's that's like I don't know, digging through dog shit to find
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  the corn. It's it's just I suppose that's an insult to dog shit.
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  And he'll be around even after they're gone, because I don't think he gets
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  paid. I think he just is obsessive, so it might be all that's
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  left. Well, that's that's why I appreciate David if you tell, because
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  he is. He's grassroots as well as as fucking playless and as much of
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  a liar and bullshittery is. He's going to be there. But Jezebel will
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  not grow back like yeah, I mean, some other bizarre tropical plant will
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  be mass produced to have some other experimental psycho botanical laboratory, and that too
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  will eventually die because they can't afford to feed it anymore. That's this is
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  how the tortoise wins, because the race in question is not to any given
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  finish line. There is no given finish line. It's a race of endurance.
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  It's how far you can make it before you crash and burn, And
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  like every fable, it's on a scale larger than analogized, on an evolutionary
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  scale. The hair just squirted into existence relatively recently, and it's only a
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  matter of time before overbreathes itself to death. Whereas the tortoise has been hobbling
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  around for millions of years, and it'll keep going strong. Even when all
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  the humans are dead and they have new top of all life and earth,
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  there'll be a few tortoises who are hiding in a cave and doing a podcast
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  until it all blows over. They are the meek who will inherit the earth.
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  Folks. You might have thought that Bible passage was about the Jews,
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  but I like to think it was about the MRAs. You'd be surprised how
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  long we've been around in some form or other. You just haven't noticed us.
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  That's how we survive, by being unnoticed and camouflaged until the day comes
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  that we springing into action. So yeah, good, ridden's Jezebel Yaboo talks
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  to be you kiss my sweatd butt crack you whan kiss yours, sincerely the
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  Meek. I guess the only thing I wanted to say to this is that
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  Jezebel was originally part of the Gawker Media network, and after like Mike said,
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  Hulk Hogan sued the pants off of them. I don't know what happened
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  to Nick Denton, but I know that he's still out there doing stuff.
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  Jezebel was then picked up by another company, along with the Route and others,
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  and now Jezebel is going to be closing its doors. Now there is
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  definitely cause for celebration because it means that people generally are not interested in the
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  hateful messaging that Jezebel puts out. They are literal propagandists. This is what
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  they exist for. However, it's also you know, worth pointing out that
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  Jezebel was bailed out when Gawker got sued, and now they're closing, But
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  somebody else might bail them out, so Jezebel might reappear, maybe under a
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  different name, maybe under the same name but owned by a different company.
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  Or all of the people who write for Jezebel have they're going to go on
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  to write for places like The Guardian and Slate, and or they're going to
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  join activist groups like you know, Democracy Now or whatever it is. They
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  may just go and make the Marry Sue bigger, because the Mary Sue is
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  still an extremely you know, popular force to be reckoned with I'm still hopeful
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  because really what it comes down to is like these things can happen to these
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  websites, but as long as these websites have an audience, then they can
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  kind of sustain. What might happen maybe is that maybe the Mary Sue will
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  see a bunch of new people, maybe a lot of the people that wrote
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  for Jezebel also wrote for the Mary Sue or any other number of feminists or
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  you know, far left websites or whatever you want to call it, because
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  there really isn't that much difference honestly between the Mary Sue, Jezebel, the
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  Guardian, you know, most of Medium, dot com and stuff like that.
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  So I, I, you know, I'm glad. It's good.
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  It means that public opinion is definitely like being reflected, you could say,
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  in where people decide to invest their clicks. But I, you know,
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  it's just important to note that these people don't disappear when their websites close down.
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  They just kind of like, you know, they go and do other
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  things. Maybe they'll get jobs in government, maybe they'll go work on you
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  know, campaigns or whatever it is. So you know, well, obviously
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  I haven't seen the last one because the problem is the idea itself. And
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  also just like the last thing is, you know, the there was some
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  recent data I know we've talked about on the show before that the Zoomers and
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  the Alphas, the generation Alpha men and women are further apart politically than they
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  have been in previous generations, and that what that means is the women are
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  moving further left or more feminist, and the men are moving away from that.
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  I wouldn't even say they're moving right, They're just moving away from that.
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  And so if it's true that that young girls that are growing up in
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  this you know, still extremely feminist society, in a very feminist education system
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  and media and everything, if they're still like moving in that direction, then
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  they will probably be the new Jezebel or Mary Sue. At some point in
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  the future. We'll probably see that as a research assuming that that is true,
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  you know, so we will see I do I do. I still
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  think it's good news, but I would just say, you know, it
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  certainly is far from over in my opinion. So does anybody else have any
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  thoughts on this before we move on to the next story. It just it'll
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  be interesting to see because this does create a void. It'll be interesting to
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  see if anything does come forward to fill the void. I never trust the
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  media when they tell us this the this whole generation is doing this, or
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  this whole generation is doing that, because I mean, look what they said
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  about gen X when we were in our thirties, and we had a percentage
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  of gen X that were slow starters and a whole bunch of gen X that
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  were actually doing very well and not being mentioned in media at all. So
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  it may be that there's a bigger contingent of girls in gen Z that are
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  non feminists than they want to admit. And is the feminist media reporting on
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  this? So yeah, you know, yeah again you know. And another
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  thing too, you know. We talked a little bit about the Marvels on
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  yesterday's Patron Show, and I mentioned that these films these feminist This feminist media,
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  we're talking about a broader thing here, ye, feminist media itself.
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  If it doesn't do well in theaters, it doesn't really affect the people who
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  made the film that much because there are very rich and powerful investors that are
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  going to pay them anyway, because they want the content out there, because
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  they're trying to socially engineer, you know, our society, in particular the
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  girls. So even if the film flops, they're going to consider it a
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  cultural success, like in terms of like the impact. And they've said said
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  as much. There's plenty of examples. I think Sana Amanat who was you
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  know know, like she was like one of the executives over at Marvel Comics,
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  but more importantly, she was a very close friend of the Obamas and
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  an activist. She said that, you know, when people are asking her,
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  are you worried about these sales? And she said, It's not about
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  sales, it's about cultural impact. So they know that this is that the
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  ultimate goal has nothing to do with whether or not what they're doing is profitable,
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  because there are people who make a lot of money that just give them,
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  they just pay them. And that's another thing too, is they're planning
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  on cutting out the market completely and just you know, putting these things in
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  libraries for example. So they never had an interest in being a part of
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  a you know, I guess you could call it a free market because it
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  won't have an impact on that their their products won't impact the culture in the
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  way that they want, and that this is yeah, go ahead. They
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  think that if they say something is true enough times for enough for enough time,
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  that it will become true, or that at least people won't understand that
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  it's not anymore. And I think they also think that if they push this
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  stuff enough and they make it the only thing that you have access to,
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  that it'll change your beliefs, that you'll it'll move the over ten window.
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  It's you've got two groups of people trying to move the overten window window,
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  right. You've got people like us that are are doing it, you know,
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  through a grassroots movement where we're talking to other people, you know,
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  individually and in live streams like this and so on, and having conversations on
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  social media with people who go out and have conversations with others on social media,
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  and opinion changes that way, based on the sharing of evidence, based
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  on you know, this is one of the reasons why they want control over
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  social media. They want to be able to say that backtracking you, you
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  know, when when they're actually posting propaganda in response to your facts and so
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  on. The other the other way is from the top down, and that's
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  by making the ability to see things that are contrary to their propaganda impossible,
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  Like they take away everything that contradicts their propaganda, and they're in the process
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  of doing that right now. That's why you see all these different movies and
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  everything. So money doesn't really matter to them, even like the if they
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  are getting no play, say with the gen Z girls, because if if
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  gen Z girls were really all feminist, they would be dying to see these
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  movies. They would be dragging their boyfriends. You gotta can't be to see
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  this movie, yeah, you know, And and there would be there would
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  be a lot more because they're they're being pushed in feminist media, right,
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  there would be a lot more profit going on, right if it was all
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  so there is there may be a bigger contingent of them than there were of
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  gen X, or that there are than there are currently of gen X.
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  But I think there were more gen xers who were feminists when we were in
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  high school and college than there are now too, because people grow up and
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  they realize that feminism is stupid and dishonest. Yeah, So all in all,
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  all of that, like things like Jezebel, things like these, these
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  movies that are designed to propaganda as your entertainment and everything ultimately by themselves.
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  They cannot achieve what they're trying to achieve, and ultimately they are going to
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  take companies down with them in their effort to do that. But don't don't
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  expect it to happen next week. Well, no, of course not.
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  And I wanted to add to what you're saying about the movies. So the
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  Marvels most of the people, even though it was a gigantic flop, the
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  biggest flop in all of the MCU's history, the majority of people who watched
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  it, of those who did go, were still men. So it was
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  still mostly men. So women aren't They weren't turning out for that Mainly.
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  I think it's because it's not their cup of tea in terms of like the
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  type of film. They just don't want to see that kind of movie.
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  But they do want to see feminist content because Barbie made over a billion dollars,
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  so there is a kind of film that girls will turn out. Yeah,
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  I'm I'm so sure Barbie made that much money because it was feminist.
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  Well, I think it made that much money because it was Barbie. Possibly,
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  possibly, but see, because Barbie also has a it's got its own
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  following, and to the degree that older barbiees are expensive and and never removed
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  from the box and things like that in the same way that actions people are.
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  Yeah, so I think that the thing is I would agree if it
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  was like one of those things where the first the opening weekend is really and
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  then there's a drop off. But there wasn't. It just kept it kept
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  up its momentum. And I went to the theater to see something else and
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  there are all these girls dressed up to see Barbie, and they were talking
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  about Barbie. And when you look at what went viral from the film,
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  it's this rant about how hard it is to be a woman in like,
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  you know, the best time in all of human history. That's what the
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  takeaway is. So that whether they're feminist or not, even I've even seen
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  non feminist libertarian women do that, and all the women in the audience will
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  cheer because they they do hold that sort of martyrdom self martyrdom narrative. But
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  it wasn't a matter of if theist was never Yeah, if it's a word
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  feminist was never used with regard to Barbie, and feminists had not pushed the
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  message and all of that, that would still be popular. That's kind of
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  a guy. A centrism thing more than a feminism thing. It's women are
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  solapsistic, right, Yeah, And I don't know that necessarily they would come
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  along and say, well, because we're we're solipsistic, we also agree with
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  everything else that feminists are doing. And I think a lot of women that
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  will stand around and tell you how hard it is to be a woman would
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  still get outraged over Like if they read the seven Years in Hell story,
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  they would be like, that bitch needs to go down. You know,
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  why is she doing that to that guy? It makes the rest of us
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  look bad? But yeah, it's still it's still a behavior among women,
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  and it's feminist influenced. No, this wasn't botha This was not the first
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  Barbie film by a long shot. There's a shitload of Barbie films. This
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  was just its own unique, weird thing in Barbie. There are Barbie cartoon
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  films, there are other Barbie live action films. It's a huge, huge
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  thing. Actually, you probably won't find very many little girls in the United
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  States that don't have at least one Barbie doll, if not more. You
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  know, like I had barbiees when I was a kid. Mine were a
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  little different, but I did have barbiees. Yeah, they looked like something
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  out of Mad Max. Well we're digressing a little bit. But we're digressing
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  a bit. But I want to let Mike Jay say what he was going
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  to say. I was just gonna say. I think we were on two
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  separate internets when the Barbie movie dropped, because I wasn't seeing anything about the
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  girl power moment. I was it was twenty four to seven energy from emanating
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  from the Kennethno States. Yeah, I saw that remixes and stuff. I
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  saw that that is the meme. That is the meme that will outlive the
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  movie. I you know, I think that's right. But I'm all I'm
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  saying is that normy women. This is very not people who meme on the
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  internet. Normy women that saw that movie. The message at the end is
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  the takeaway. It's everything. It's everything, and I don't know why,
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  like it's it's obvious to me. But but this is not about that I'm
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  talking about. We're talking about Jezebel, and I think that there is a
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  link. So but I'm gonna read I got some super chow. I got
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  a super chow. Before you get into that, I will say this.
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  Yeah, the thing that you said, the hard to be a woman rant
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  Kat Temp who is a libertarian commentator, that is on I think the not
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  the five the Great Gutfeld Show on Yeah, I haven't watched Fox in a
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  while, but she went on a rant like that before The Barbie movie was
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  a thing, sure, and it got cheered and played it. I mean
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  I saw people playing clips of it on Twitter all over the place and everything,
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  and it was all stuff that women do to each other. But she
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  didn't say that. She was just you know, this is why it's hard
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  to be a woman, and it was all about your looks and all about
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  you have to do nothing you can do being right and all that kind of
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  thing. She's not entirely wrong in that those things happen to women, but
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  they are. They are things that only happen to women. If other women's
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  opinions matter to us, like other women do that to me, and I
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  don't care, they can go fuck off, right right, So, but
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  it is a thing. You're right that it is a thing, and it
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  is something that if they're susceptible to it, girls will latch onto it.
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  And it is an inroad for feminism. Yeah, sure, It starts with
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  I'm a victim of something, and that's what I'm that's what it feels.
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  It feels better to be a victim than it does to work hard. Yeah,
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  avoid, Yeah, victim. It's a very it's a very short trip.
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  But okay, but I really got to move on. So I got
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  a super chow from Meredith G top G. She gives us five dollars and
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  says HBO News four thirty one honey for the Badgers. Jezebel was the useful
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  idiot of a bigger media enterprise that sought to divide us. The problem was
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  there was a glut on the market of this crap. Think of this as
• 26:26
  a market correction. Uh, yes, thank you for that, and I
• 26:34
  I, well, yeah, I mean there's like, the thing is,
• 26:37
  you don't even need to be in a website that is explicitly feminist, like
• 26:41
  on its phase, you know, to be a feminist website. Like I
• 26:45
  said, look at most websites, whether they say it or not, they're
• 26:51
  kind of like you know, most of the time they're towing that line.
• 26:53
  But this is still a win. I will take it. I will take
• 26:56
  the w because it's gone and we are still here. So I guess that
• 27:02
  stands for something. But anyway, thank you, Meredith. I'm going to
• 27:07
  I don't think I got any other superchows, so we're going to oh wait
• 27:14
  something, did something else come through? I just got a bloop? No,
• 27:15
  I didn't, Okay, so we're gonna move on to the next story.
• 27:21
  Let us know what you guys think of this one in the comments,
• 27:25
  and uh yeah, let's let's take a look at the next thing. This
• 27:30
  is an interesting story that we've talked about a little bit. Let me put
• 27:33
  it on the screen here. Okay, So a woman you guys probably heard
• 27:40
  about this. A woman was being harassed by a homeless man in New York
• 27:44
  City subway station when a stranger used his gun to stop her from being mugged.
• 27:49
  Subway vigilante John Wrote watched as Matthew Roche allegedly made moves to snatch that
• 27:56
  woman's bag, Wrote, whipped out the firearms and allegedly fired several rounds across
• 28:02
  the subway. So like a warning shot, I guess, while warning the
• 28:04
  would be mugger to leave the woman alone. The forty year old woman,
• 28:08
  who did not want to be identified, told the New York Post, of
• 28:12
  course, I am happy that that man tried to help me and that nobody
• 28:17
  was injured during the incident. But it's scary to think that people are carrying
• 28:22
  guns around the city. I understand why people do it. They see it
• 28:25
  as their only means of protection. From The New York Post quote, Rhade
• 28:30
  was seen in surveillance footage casually pulling the handgun from his bag and aiming it
• 28:34
  at the scuffle before shouting, get the f away from her. It all
• 28:40
  happened within seconds. It didn't FaZe the homeless man. He continued to say,
• 28:44
  give me money, Give me money. The woman said. That's when
• 28:48
  Roe allegedly shot the second time and continued yelling at Roche to back away from
• 28:52
  his victim. Roche finally stalled, giving the woman the chance to run away.
• 28:56
  Roche was then arrested after police arrived from the scene and charge him with
• 29:00
  attempted robbery. Wrote this is the guy with the gun who has no prior
• 29:04
  arrests. Was arrested the following day after an anonymous tipster recognize him on the
• 29:10
  surveillance footage. He was charged with criminal possession of a weapon, criminal possession
• 29:15
  of a firearm, and reckless endangerment. And menacing. Menacing. NYPD sources
• 29:22
  said they don't think wrote was aiming at the vagrant and was just trying to
• 29:26
  scare him off. In this case, the man risks a lot to protect
• 29:30
  me, his safety and the safety of other people on the platform. Yes,
• 29:34
  I do think he is a hero, but I don't know. I
• 29:37
  would likely think him a bigger hero if he tried to help me without the
• 29:41
  gun. In my eyes, the gun is a little extreme. It was
• 29:45
  a very dangerous situation. Anything could have happened, the woman said. The
• 29:48
  MTA and the NYPD aren't doing much to protect the public, but it's very
• 29:53
  dangerous. They're also very defunded. There are many incidents where weapons were involved
• 29:59
  in did badly. Honestly, I am against people carrying weapons with them around
• 30:03
  the city, she said. If we're talking if we're talking risk, if
• 30:10
  we're talking risk versus safety, then you have to consider how to translate this
• 30:15
  into the experience of the man doing the the whole, the whole saving you
• 30:21
  from the criminal, little miss whoever you are. That seems to be what
• 30:27
  what you're doing. What you're doing, namely, imagining that any given man
• 30:32
  also needs to be concerned about his own safety in the process of selflessly attending
• 30:38
  to your own safety. Why was this man confident enough with his own safety
• 30:45
  in this situation. It's because he had a gun. The criminal in question
• 30:51
  may have had a knife, probably did have a knife, And there is
• 30:53
  no safe way to bring a knife to a knife fight. You must bring
• 30:59
  this up within malay range. There's no safe way to bring fists to a
• 31:03
  fist fight or else being equal for the same reason. And there's certainly no
• 31:08
  safe way to bring a knife to a gunfight, as per the cliche.
• 31:14
  But you may have deducted, dear listener, how the other combination works.
• 31:18
  Bringing a gun to a knife fight gives the best odds you can possibly get
• 31:25
  as long as you're comfortably behind and beyond Melay range, and assuming the opponent
• 31:32
  in question is not on PCP. In this case, you better get a
• 31:37
  headshot in as quickly as possible and then hope for the best. If it
• 31:41
  really is about safety, then this really is one of those situations where a
• 31:47
  gun is the safest option to prevent violence. A ranged weapon avoids combat where
• 31:56
  otherwise it would be unavoidable. It's just that so many people are scared of
• 32:02
  guns because they've swallowed this idea that people don't kill people guns do. So
• 32:07
  it doesn't matter that there's a person robbing you right here, right now without
• 32:14
  a gun. There could be someone raping you and murdering you right now without
• 32:19
  a gun, and you wouldn't find it as scary as the guy trying to
• 32:22
  save your life with a gun. Far too many people don't appreciate weapons until
• 32:29
  the moment weapons save their lives, just like they don't appreciate the police until
• 32:35
  the moment the police save their lives. This is a statistically unlikely event to
• 32:40
  happen to any given person, of course, so you can see why so
• 32:45
  many people go their whole lives blissfully unaware yet factuously opposed to those who might
• 32:52
  guard them at night. But it's an extra kick in the teeth when someone,
• 33:00
  even after a gun saves their life or even just save the handbag,
• 33:05
  and they still don't learn to appreciate the technology and the male selflessness that actually
• 33:12
  gives them the safety that they take for granted every day, Like that's seriously,
• 33:21
  don't bother my brothers. Honestly, if you're on the bad end of
• 33:23
  a fifty to fifty chance that the woman you're trying to help not only doesn't
• 33:30
  want your help, but will actively reject it. You might even categorize you
• 33:34
  as just another male villain who wants to oppress her just as much as the
• 33:38
  scumbag in the process of robbing it. Like, don't even get involved,
• 33:43
  my dude, it's very probably not worth it just putting out that. I
• 33:46
  realize. I realize civilization on the whole requires good samaritans like this in order
• 33:52
  to even have order. But there's only so much you can do, especially
• 34:00
  when it's not appreciated. Approach with caution is the advice in a nutshell.
• 34:06
  Just like when when you approach a criminal, make sure your weapon is longer
• 34:10
  range than their weapon, when you approach a woman, make sure her arrogance
• 34:16
  is not longer range than your patience. It's it's it's a judgment call on
• 34:22
  an individual basis. Best of like gentlemen above all, avoid the leftist city
• 34:30
  shitholes where these kinds of crimes constantly happen. Then it's it's not even remotely
• 34:37
  your problem. Live enjoy yourself, to drink waffles and eat beer or whatever.
• 34:46
  I guarantee you it's not just her arrogance. That you have to watch
• 34:50
  out for. I guarantee you this woman is profoundly ignorant in terms of interpersonal
• 34:57
  violence. I will bet you she grew up in a neighborhood where the kids
• 35:00
  get into fights with each other by yelling across the street, you can't come
• 35:05
  into my apartment anymore, because they probably don't have yards. They're in New
• 35:09
  York. There are no yards left in New York. Yes, not the
• 35:14
  city anyway. But I'm sure that she probably never duked it out with another
• 35:21
  kid over anything when she was growing up. And I will bet you that
• 35:27
  she never saw the boys in her neighborhood do it either. She probably grew
• 35:30
  up in a nice, little middle class Namby Pamby. Nobody gets into a
• 35:37
  fight, everybody gets in trouble if anybody in the class misbehaves badly kind of
• 35:43
  neighborhood and school system. And so she doesn't understand what happens during in her
• 35:49
  personal violence and how fast it happens, and how scary it is in the
• 35:54
  moment, and how quickly it can get out of your control, even if
• 35:59
  you start out having the upper hand, right. She doesn't know any of
• 36:02
  those things. And so this is why when a woman starts trying to talk
• 36:07
  you down in terms of here you are handling a situation where someone is being
• 36:14
  aggressive with you and you are defending, or where you are protecting somebody from
• 36:17
  an aggressor, that you need to be gentle with your aggressor. Like,
• 36:23
  no, don't listen to that. That's bullshit. She doesn't know what she's
• 36:27
  talking about. She's an idiot, she's ignorant, and her advice is going
• 36:32
  to get you killed. That's the first thing I will point out about this.
• 36:36
  The second thing is, I will bet you she voted to defund police.
• 36:45
  I will bet you that she is one of those liberal minded All things
• 36:51
  the cops do is wrong. All of the people in jail just had a
• 36:54
  rough life and no ill intent to go with it. And there's nothing wrong
• 37:00
  with just stopping law enforcement altogether. Kind of people. Until she had to
• 37:07
  deal with you know this this bullshit experience. And by the way, there
• 37:14
  is a very very important clue in the experience that should tell everybody why this
• 37:22
  guy needed the gun in that moment. Right, If you can point a
• 37:25
  gun at somebody and they still keep coming at you after they see the barrel
• 37:29
  of the gun pointing in their direction. There is something wrong with that person.
• 37:35
  That is some of the scariest shit you will ever see happen to you,
• 37:37
  having somebody point a gun at you and you stop what you're doing.
• 37:44
  You freeze when someone points a gun at you. Unless there is something wrong
• 37:47
  with you. You have to either be a little crazy or high on something
• 37:53
  and no longer in control of your faculties and no longer able to judge how
• 38:00
  much danger you are in in that moment. And when you fire a warning
• 38:07
  shot and someone keeps coming, that person is really fucked up. So dealing
• 38:13
  with that person hand to hand would be just about the stupidest choice you could
• 38:17
  make. And that's what this woman was advising this guy to do. So
• 38:22
  not only is she probably ignorant and probably sheltered and probably voted for this shit,
• 38:30
  but she's ignorant enough to get someone killed, and she would have if
• 38:37
  she had been able to control that guy's actions. And you know, whoever
• 38:40
  ever turned him in is a piece of shit, really, But when it
• 38:46
  comes down to it, this fulfills one of the predictions that I made when
• 38:51
  they started with the defund the police thing. I told you guys, the
• 38:55
  point of defunding the police was to get women to start complaining that the police
• 39:04
  aren't enforcing right. That's the point. Was to get women to start criticizing
• 39:09
  men and asking for more enforcement, asking for more cops, asking for more
• 39:16
  government control. And what happened here she lamented the guy helping her having a
• 39:24
  gun and then suggested that it should have been handled by police. You're going
• 39:31
  to see more of that, Yep, that's the goal. Now. That's
• 39:36
  not to say that you should be engaging in vigilantism because it's not your job.
• 39:42
  You don't have to do it, and as you can see here,
• 39:44
  it's not appreciated. But be ready when people women in particular start going one
• 39:53
  hundred and eighty degrees in the other direction and want to go back past where
• 39:58
  we were before with over policing to even more over policing, in a backlash
• 40:05
  against what's happening now, because that's coming, except that it's going to be
• 40:12
  federal. Oh that's yeah, it'll be federal. It was in the nineties.
• 40:16
  Bill Clinton did that in the nineties in response to this exact same kind
• 40:21
  of flip flop. So, I mean, we're going to see it again,
• 40:24
  only it's going to be more mm hm, oh boy, I've got
• 40:30
  some Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm sure Mike Jay has something to
• 40:34
  say. Okay, go ahead. I am going to take a bit of
• 40:37
  an interesting stance here. The woman is probably the least egregious person in this
• 40:44
  story, aside from the I'm not going to make any bones about it,
• 40:47
  Aside from the hero who attempted to do the right thing. Like she acknowledges
• 40:55
  he's a hero. She acknowledges that a man risked his life to protect her.
• 41:01
  She does have a stupid stance on guns. But then again, she
• 41:05
  probably has lived in New York her entire life. I would be very surprised
• 41:08
  if she had any other opinion on the subject. And of course she does
• 41:14
  live in a delusional law law land of well, you know, you just
• 41:17
  stand up and fistfight the guy, and the Mortal Kombat music starts playing,
• 41:21
  and you know, the first to two rounds wins, and you know you
• 41:25
  press Danza on up square right, right, right, you get a fatality.
• 41:30
  But yeah, just on so many levels, like yes, I would
• 41:35
  rather this scumbag who rated out again a man who did tried to do the
• 41:42
  right thing in the right circumstance. I wish he wouldn't exist or would not
• 41:46
  do this. I wish that this man would not be arrested. The only
• 41:53
  police escort this man should be getting is to receive the fucking key to the
• 41:58
  city, be a small parade for his efforts. You know, I wish
• 42:04
  that there would not be deranged homeless people walking the streets doing this to people
• 42:10
  who again have like absolutely no sense of fear of death. I mean,
• 42:19
  when a fucking NPC and grand theft auto has better survival instincts than you do,
• 42:25
  you got some fucking problems. And of course I wish that that could
• 42:34
  be a state where carrying a weapon around with you and looking out for your
• 42:39
  fellow man would be the norm and not you know, something that is so
• 42:45
  unthinkable that you get arrested for doing it. But yeah, as Hannah touched
• 42:53
  on, this is seemingly what these people voted for, and this is seemingly
• 42:58
  what they're willing to put up with. Like so many people came out to
• 43:05
  say when that guy got arrested for choking out that crazy guy on the subway,
• 43:10
  just oh well, that's just living in New York, you know,
• 43:13
  That's just what you expect that's just the norm. And I hate to say
• 43:20
  it, but I don't think we can start helping these people until they decide
• 43:22
  to help themselves. Shit them all like God saw them that. That's what
• 43:25
  I say. Yeah, well said that's Hannah. Yeah. I mean,
• 43:35
  you know. In nineteen eighty six, my family went to visit New York
• 43:37
  City, and I was excited to go because I've never been any place that
• 43:43
  urban in my life. The community we were coming from had like, at
• 43:49
  that point, maybe ten thousand people in it, right, And we were
• 43:52
  going to New York City that had millions and that was just the coolest thing
• 43:57
  in the world. And we did and it was great. Right. You
• 44:00
  couldn't pay me to go there. Now, I wouldn't want to. Even
• 44:08
  like I was at the airport there for for a layover, I would I
• 44:15
  didn't even look out the window, and it's it's been that way for quite
• 44:20
  a while. I wouldn't want to go to New York now because of ship
• 44:25
  like this being normal and the way people behave about it. They might say
• 44:31
  the same thing about Dayton, Ohio. But it just I don't think it's
• 44:38
  that bad here. It's not great. There are things wrong here, but
• 44:44
  jeez, New York, that's normal here, San Francisco at least, Seattle,
• 44:50
  Chicago, Baltimore. They're all absolute, like objectively worse it is to
• 45:01
  be a person. If that happened here in Date we don't have a subway,
• 45:05
  But if that happened here in Dayton, anywhere in Dayton where it was
• 45:10
  public place, that person wouldn't be arrested, you know, unless they were
• 45:16
  violating the law about having a gun too close to a school or something,
• 45:21
  that person wouldn't be arrested. And then there's it's it's legal here to carry
• 45:27
  a gun as it is here. Well again, I mean, I think
• 45:34
  everything that was going to be said about this has been said, So thanks
• 45:38
  guys for great points. I'm just looking to see if I miss any super
• 45:42
  childs or anything. No, I did not. If you guys want to
• 45:45
  send us a super child with your thoughts on this, you know, you
• 45:49
  know, it's just feedabadgel dot com force last, just a tip or you
• 45:52
  can put in a rumble rant, a super chat or whatever. You know,
• 45:57
  you whatever suits your bloats your boat as it were. So anyway,
• 46:01
  guys, obviously the moral is, I guess, don't be a hero like
• 46:07
  they don't they don't appreciate it. Sometimes people just have to like get a
• 46:13
  taste of the potential consequences before they start changing their tune. So yeah,
• 46:17
  I mean, you know, I'm not gonna go into it too much,
• 46:21
  but I've I spoke to a woman much older than me and the topic of
• 46:24
  guns came up, and she was just like, why do Because she wasn't
• 46:29
  from America, so she's like, why do you guys have to have guns?
• 46:31
  Why is it so important? And like it's you're making your you don't
• 46:37
  understand and tell you about this thing that happened about two hundred and fifty years
• 46:39
  ago. Revolution. Yeah, Like basically though, the main thrust of what
• 46:45
  I'm getting at is is that some people, and I think mostly it's women.
• 46:49
  I don't know why, they think that if only we just didn't have
• 46:52
  guns, there would be no more crime, you know, Like there's this
• 46:57
  idea like if we didn't have them, then nobody could shoot anybody. Is
• 47:00
  like, but we do, Like, you have to live in the real
• 47:02
  world. This is the real world. This ship is minor aside here.
• 47:07
  I have the perfect thing to to illustrate this. The other day, I
• 47:14
  was out and about with a relative and we had to go back to our
• 47:17
  house for some reason. And uh, we saw just walking along the street
• 47:23
  a coyote and it looked really skinny, a little bit mangy. It wasn't
• 47:29
  doing anything weird, but it was out in broad daylight by itself, so
• 47:34
  there's a lot of warning signs right there about rabies. Yeah. Again,
• 47:37
  wasn't doing anything sketch, but just just going through the place. And we
• 47:40
  both looked at it and waited for him to get out of you know,
• 47:45
  eyesight, to get out, and I hopped out, and I came back
• 47:47
  with my handgun and I put it in a glove box. And my relative,
• 47:52
  who is you know, a very very conservative to a supporters, like
• 47:59
  why do you need that? Mm hmm, And I said, well,
• 48:02
  I don't know if you just remembered what happened, but a skinny, mangy
• 48:07
  coyote is wandering around in broad daylight. And also it's legal here. Yeah,
• 48:15
  of course, nothing came of it, nothing happened. Didn't have to
• 48:19
  you know, shoot shoot any coyote. But better to have it not need
• 48:23
  it than to need it not happen. Yep, It's very simple, but
• 48:30
  really just don't live in reality anyway. We're gonna move on to the next
• 48:32
  story. Let us know what you guys think about this one in the comments.
• 48:36
  Uh, all right, that's Mike. It looks like we were We
• 48:39
  got time to do this next one before you have to take off. So
• 48:43
  we're gonna talk about the students that was suspended or saying the unsayable. I
• 48:47
  guess I don't. I don't really know. It seems to be yeah,
• 48:51
  so close, worse worse, except it's it's not a not a person,
• 48:57
  it's a place. Oh boy. So, after going viral on social media,
• 49:02
  a southern California high school student's suspension and the reason for it have been
• 49:08
  confirmed is real. Newport mesa Unified assistant superintendent to Carrie Torres, has confirmed
• 49:17
  that an unnamed student will be suspended from school starting November thirteenth for three days
• 49:24
  for the crime of saying free Palestine to another student. The suspension, noticed
• 49:34
  that initially went viral on social media, mirrors the confirmation and adds a slight
• 49:38
  more bit of context. It reads, quote, the incident that caused this
• 49:44
  suspension happened as follows, name redacted said threatening remarks to a young lady in
• 49:51
  class, he said, free Palestine. End quote. In an unconfirmed post,
• 49:59
  a woman on social med media claiming to be the suspended student's relative claimed
• 50:04
  that the student only said what he said after being called a terrorist by the
• 50:08
  young lady, and that he had been harassed due to his Palestinian heritage by
• 50:14
  other students in the past. She further claims that this harassment was made known
• 50:19
  to the principle, but nothing happened as a result. District spokesperson Annette Franco
• 50:25
  said in a statement on the matter. Quote Newport Mesa Unified will not tolerate
• 50:30
  hateful speech in our schools, especially not hate speech that incites others to engage
• 50:35
  in negative behavior. We have an obligation to maintain a safe learning environment while
• 50:40
  respecting students' rights to speak on issues. We take our obligations to students seriously,
• 50:46
  and because of this, there's an expectation for students to engage in respectful
• 50:51
  dialogue for chain, not hateful speech that is directed towards a specific student population.
• 50:57
  End quote. Unified also claims that any information pertaining to the suspension some
• 51:04
  may have seen online or on social media is inaccurate and incomplete, but declients
• 51:09
  to share any further details about the incident, citing student privacy laws as the
• 51:15
  reason for doing so. So two things you can't help but notice in this
• 51:20
  conflict, and in this debate about this conflict. If you support Palestine,
• 51:27
  you're an anti Semite. If you support Israel, you're an islamophobe. And
• 51:32
  I mean the slightest deviation from the absolute zero on that axis. And you're
• 51:38
  already treading one of the minefields that has been sprawled on both sides of you.
• 51:45
  And if you try to backpedal, you're now stepping on both mine fields
• 51:51
  simultan simultaneously. There's no semblance of a nuanced position that you can possibly adopt
• 51:58
  that won't get you pulled up by dissident arm of the same woke machine.
• 52:05
  That is, unless you are a Jew or a Muslim. If you're a
• 52:09
  Jew, then of course you can say Israel has the right to defend itself,
• 52:14
  and you are immune from criticism. If you're a Muslim, then of
• 52:17
  course you can say from the River to the Sea, and you are immune
• 52:22
  from criticism. But if you're a regular Western Joe and everyday straight slash white,
• 52:31
  slash male slash Christian, delete is appropriate, then you are very much
• 52:36
  existing in an infinitesimly thin sliver of space between a rock and a hard place,
• 52:43
  and your opinion on the matter will not be appreciated. No matter what,
• 52:46
  anything you say will get you demonized by the same ecophobic hive mind is
• 52:53
  currently driving yourself nuts trying to decide which foreign to support based on which of
• 53:01
  those teams is going to destroy Western values the quickest and most efficiently. I'd
• 53:09
  say it's a trap, but it's not even a trap. It's just a
• 53:14
  series of holes that have been dug into the ground by people who have no
• 53:19
  reason to dig holes other than that they think holes are better than the space
• 53:24
  that would otherwise fill those holes. They don't care who it is who falls
• 53:30
  into those holes. If you move too far into their territory, you'll find
• 53:35
  yourself in one of those holes, and they'll go. We don't take kindly
• 53:38
  to people who move the slightest inch in that particular direction, So yeah,
• 53:44
  don't don't move in either direction. To stay between the two mindfields, on
• 53:50
  the thin strip of no man's land where you actually stand for your own country.
• 53:57
  That's how we used to do it when I was in We had a
• 54:00
  vague idea of what Israel was and what Palestine was. But we didn't give
• 54:05
  a shit, and neither did the teachers. But we supported England in the
• 54:10
  World Cup, we supported Britain in the Olympics. What we argued about was
• 54:17
  which local football teams we supported and which bands we liked. And no one
• 54:23
  ever got suspended or expelled or even disciplined for liking such things, or for
• 54:28
  liking anything, not even Israel or Palestine, because it doesn't fucking matter as
• 54:35
  long as they're getting on with your work and you're not beating someone to death
• 54:39
  or having a gun pointed at you from some guy in a subway? Can
• 54:45
  we not? Can we just not? Can we yet? Never mind?
• 54:49
  Never? Even so, I think people who regularly listen have heard me talk
• 54:57
  about the Israel Palestine conflict enough to understand why I say the whole situation is
• 55:02
  manufactured, and I'm calling bullshit on all of it. I blame the United
• 55:07
  States government for a large portion of it. And I'm not going to talk
• 55:12
  about that because something else is more important. Actually, in this right now,
• 55:17
  the school has done something profoundly egregious in regard to its responsibility as an
• 55:27
  institution and the responsibility of the people of that institution, the adults in that
• 55:31
  institution, to teach young people negotiation skills and how to manage conflict without having
• 55:43
  it escalate into violence. They have told the students that if an individual loses
• 55:51
  control over their temper and escalates a conflict from verbal conflict to physical violence,
• 56:00
  that it is always the fault of the speaker that they're mad at. And
• 56:07
  that's bullshit. It's not just bullshit, it is advocating violence. The school
• 56:13
  advocated violence against people who said the wrong thing to it students, and I'm
• 56:19
  sure the administrator doesn't realize that that they did that. They don't realize that
• 56:23
  they just gave students an excuse to attack people physically for saying the wrong thing.
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  But they did when they released a statement that they will not tolerate speech
• 56:37
  that incites others to engage in negative behavior, and they weren't talking about speech
• 56:45
  that is itself directly advocating violence. It's okay for them to suspend a kid
• 56:53
  who says beat that guy up, beat that guy up to somebody who's already
• 56:59
  considering getting into a fight, you know, or or says I'm going to
• 57:02
  come in and shoot up the school. Those are things that, yes,
• 57:06
  they should be addressing that, But when a student says something political, just
• 57:13
  political, like we debated we debated abortion in my government class, my high
• 57:20
  school government class, and there were some of us that were, you know,
• 57:22
  felt very strongly on that. Like I was only a few years away
• 57:28
  from the experience of having had pick shit thrown in my face from you know,
• 57:35
  from a from a pro aboart, So like I was one of those
• 57:38
  people that felt very strongly about that. None of us would have come to
• 57:42
  blows over it because we knew that was inappropriate. Are our teachers right?
• 57:47
  Our mentors had taught us to differentiate between having strong opinions and engaging in strong
• 57:54
  speech over those opinions versus throwing hands over those opinions. One is within the
• 58:01
  rules and one is against the rules. And they just they just fucked that
• 58:06
  up. They fucked it all up. And those kids, some of those
• 58:10
  kids are now going to be the next set of Antifa street warriors that burn
• 58:16
  down somebody's neighborhood because they're mad, Right, That's that's what they've done.
• 58:24
  They've just encouraged kids to develop that attitude that is absolutely shameful. And it
• 58:31
  doesn't matter whether the issue is Israel versus Palestine, abortion uh, this school
• 58:38
  rivalry versus you know that that students not caring about sports at all, nerds
• 58:45
  versus jocks. It doesn't matter what group, what, whether, how,
• 58:49
  whether it's big, whether it's small, whether it's life or death, whether
• 58:52
  it's petty as hell. Students should be learning that you express the ideas,
• 58:59
  that you challenge, the ideas you critique, the ideas you provide evidence,
• 59:02
  logic, reason and boundaries. I'm done talking about you know, this subject
• 59:09
  because we're never going to agree on it, So let's just part Let's walk
• 59:14
  our separate ways on it. You know that kind of thing. Not well,
• 59:17
  if you say the wrong thing, your fellow student can hit you,
• 59:22
  and we support their right to hit you for it so much that we're gonna
• 59:25
  blame you for it and suspend you, not them. Like I can't even
• 59:35
  express how how much shame on those people for that. Shame on them.
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  If somebody taught my kid that I would be in there, they would hear
• 59:45
  me in the next town over. By the time I got done, every
• 59:52
  adult in that school would feel two inches tall. That is shocking behavior.
• 1:00:00
  From an administrator, And uh, I don't even support what the student said.
• 1:00:08
  You know, I don't necessarily oppose or support what the student said because
• 1:00:15
  I don't know what was behind it. Mm hmm. You know, do
• 1:00:19
  they support the terrorist acts or do they just support peace? You don't know.
• 1:00:27
  Half the people that say that have no idea what's going on over there.
• 1:00:30
  And this is a kid, so you don't know whether they've had a
• 1:00:34
  bunch of propaganda fed to them or whether they're actually aware of what's going on
• 1:00:39
  over there. Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's the thing. We
• 1:00:44
  don't know the context of this situation, and neither side seems like they're gonna
• 1:00:47
  tell us anytime. Seeing and and fully, the context doesn't change that the
• 1:00:52
  administrator should never have communicated that speech incites others to engage. When he says
• 1:01:00
  negative behavior, he means violence. That that students should not be taught that
• 1:01:07
  they are responsible for other people's violence when they stay a political slogan buzzwords.
• 1:01:15
  Mm hmmm. And that's the other thing too, is we don't even know
• 1:01:19
  if there was a punch thrown in this entire thing. The only thing the
• 1:01:24
  citation of suspension said was suspended for saying these two words in this area,
• 1:01:31
  and I think that should be a lawsuit. That should be if there was
• 1:01:36
  no other inciting factor here. I do believe they have precedent on their side.
• 1:01:40
  Mm hmm, yep. Public. This wasn't anything profane. This wasn't
• 1:01:47
  anything actually, you know, advocating for any sort of actual violence. Just
• 1:01:53
  two words free palace and it is a government institution. M hmm, yeah,
• 1:02:00
  yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, first Amendment all the way.
• 1:02:04
  There was one minor update I wanted to throw in here, but yeah,
• 1:02:07
  I figured but'd say it live instead of kind of jiggering in into the write
• 1:02:09
  up. There was a quote unquote planned protest about this, I believe for
• 1:02:15
  today or yesterday, but a comment from the family was to say basically,
• 1:02:22
  no, there is not going to be a protest, as in, like
• 1:02:25
  it was either canceled or just simply never going to happen in the first place.
• 1:02:29
  It stopped it maybe, yeah, awesome. Now I am going to
• 1:02:32
  point out schools do have a little bit of censorship, right if I was
• 1:02:40
  a student, you know, like this is from back when I was a
• 1:02:45
  student. I was on the school newspaper staff and yearbook and you know everything,
• 1:02:51
  they can censor those publications in terms of if the subject matter that you
• 1:02:58
  are trying to publish in those publications is inappropriate for the student age. You
• 1:03:07
  can't override the wisdom of the adults in that situation and say, well,
• 1:03:12
  I'm going to publish this thing about sex and violence in the school newspaper,
• 1:03:17
  and the adult says, no, we don't want fourteen year olds reading about
• 1:03:22
  that in our newspaper. They if their parents want them to read about it
• 1:03:25
  in the city newspaper, that's fine. Or they can also say, you
• 1:03:30
  know, if it would get them in trouble for libel, or you know,
• 1:03:37
  if it's a spoken publication like they have a radio station or a television
• 1:03:43
  station or something like that, they can they can stop you, but they
• 1:03:45
  can't just suspend you for words spoken in the hallway unless there's profanity involved.
• 1:03:52
  And there's nothing profane about saying defeat free a group of people. Yeah,
• 1:04:00
  I mean, I I just wanted to say that it seems to me that
• 1:04:03
  the our willingness to even engage in discourse has severely diminished, Like the fact
• 1:04:11
  that you have schools punishing students or expressing an opinion they don't like when you
• 1:04:17
  look, you know, I've watched a lot of like old clips. You
• 1:04:21
  can find old clips on the internet of debates and talk show discussions, you
• 1:04:29
  know, with where the very controversial things were being discussed, very controversial people
• 1:04:34
  were on and nobody lost their mind, nobody tried to get somebody fired,
• 1:04:40
  nobody tried to cancel anyone at least not you know, right there. And
• 1:04:44
  it certainly didn't do that to children and students. This was like adults.
• 1:04:48
  And if you look at old like presidential debates, you know, so when
• 1:04:54
  I say this, I'm not talking about the kids. I'm talking about the
• 1:04:57
  adults today. They they have no ability, it seems to handle disagreement.
• 1:05:04
  Like it's like we can't even engage these conversations. And there's a strong push
• 1:05:10
  to end these things, like a very strong push. I mean you you
• 1:05:14
  only you know, there's tons of examples, but this is like the our
• 1:05:18
  discourse, our ability to have conversations is like all but gone compared to what
• 1:05:28
  you think maybe when the internet started. But I'm I don't know, why,
• 1:05:32
  when do you think? I've been asking myself that question constantly. It's
• 1:05:38
  just like when when did we truly get there. Yeah, I mean I
• 1:05:41
  think, but I can't recall a specific time, but I think it was
• 1:05:45
  right around the time we decided that well, and this was largely a decision
• 1:05:51
  that people on the political left, I believe, made, which was,
• 1:05:56
  well, if you're simply talking to the other people, that means you tacitly
• 1:06:00
  support them. Yeah, I mean, why would you Why would you talk
• 1:06:03
  to them? I did, Davint. You heard what X, Y,
• 1:06:06
  and Z the beliefs they believe. Yeah, I mean I think that's true.
• 1:06:13
  But there's other stuff. I think that our education, the quality of
• 1:06:15
  education, is a lot worse than it was. I think that was a
• 1:06:19
  slow process. I think every every generation, like after World War two,
• 1:06:26
  is more poorly educated than the one that came before it. And I think
• 1:06:30
  that the ability to handle like serious discussion, you know, the ability to
• 1:06:38
  know how to think and how to process information, how to propose things,
• 1:06:43
  it's it's all but completely gone like and you can see it because even the
• 1:06:47
  people who have all of the all of the authority over raising and teaching and
• 1:06:54
  educating children, they can't handle this ship. And then you take that come
• 1:06:59
  by with other things like you know, how much, how many children grow
• 1:07:03
  up in you know, like whole families where they have both of their parents
• 1:07:10
  and they're learning from that and they have a community and they learn things through
• 1:07:15
  that or like their media or whatever. I think that it's for It's a
• 1:07:20
  bit a thing that has built up over time, and I think it's worse
• 1:07:25
  now that I mean, you can just look at like the data I have
• 1:07:28
  a I have a slightly different experience. It's not entirely different experience, but
• 1:07:32
  I will say this, it was nineteen eighties, five or eighty six when
• 1:07:41
  I when I had picture it grown in my face for protesting in favor of
• 1:07:45
  women having the right to know the name of the doctor that performs their abortion.
• 1:07:51
  That's it. And the reason that the women should have the right to
• 1:07:56
  know that is if the doctor engages in malpractice and does damage to their body
• 1:08:03
  when when performing the abortion, they should have as much right to sue that
• 1:08:10
  doctor as you would have if you had that happened to you in plastic surgery
• 1:08:15
  or by a heart surgeon or any other physician that performs that. They should
• 1:08:21
  have to be held to the same standard of practice as any other physician,
• 1:08:27
  and just that saying well, yeah, if it's medical, then hold them
• 1:08:31
  to medical standards. That was enough to cause an adult woman to throw pig
• 1:08:38
  shit at a teenage girl. So that's I mean, and that's nineteen eighty
• 1:08:44
  six, that's not that's not today, that's not ten years ago. Sure,
• 1:08:48
  that's a long time ago. Yeah. Also, it's also likely that
• 1:08:53
  it's worse now. You know, I'm not saying that we were super I
• 1:08:57
  don't think it's worse now. I think I think it's more widespread now.
• 1:09:01
  Where at that protest, there was one woman in my vicinity that was willing
• 1:09:06
  to do that, today there might be five or ten in a similar fourteen
• 1:09:13
  year old's vicinity. And it's there have always been within and it's mostly within
• 1:09:24
  the issues like that, the area where there's one side it feels that they're
• 1:09:33
  defending, you know, innocent life, and the other side feels that that
• 1:09:41
  they're they're defending a bodily autonomy right, and the innocent life that the other
• 1:09:46
  side is defending isn't real. And so you have hate on you know,
• 1:09:54
  one side, and a lot of anger and outrage on the other side.
• 1:10:00
  And that happens with has happened with a lot of things. It's happened with
• 1:10:05
  gay rights, right, it's happened with unions, It's happened with all kinds
• 1:10:13
  of different political opinions. And there there's been a lot of violence involved in
• 1:10:18
  regard to union issues, for instance, and the mafia got involved in that
• 1:10:24
  as well. There's been a lot of violence involved in terms of gay rights,
• 1:10:30
  and there's been a type of mafia get involved in that as well,
• 1:10:35
  and now that's been corrupted. And there's been a lot of violence on both
• 1:10:40
  sides of the abortion issue as well, that there's been murder committed on both
• 1:10:46
  sides of the abortion issue. And so it's really hard to say that this
• 1:10:51
  wasn't it's not a new thing. It's not that people's behavior in general is
• 1:10:58
  getting worse. It's that we're seeing more people comfortable, a larger number of
• 1:11:04
  people comfortable with engaging in that type of behavior. Right. So it's it's
• 1:11:12
  it's hard to and I've seen sort of an increase in that over time.
• 1:11:16
  You know, I've been I've been doing sort of this kind of thing,
• 1:11:21
  not maybe live streaming, but this kind of I've been doing political activism since
• 1:11:28
  I was a preteen, and uh, I've been watching it. It's more
• 1:11:33
  like seeing a cancer spread through tissue than seeing it suddenly change. You know,
• 1:11:44
  like one one day it's uh, you know, nobody's like that,
• 1:11:47
  and the next day a bunch of people are like that. And I mean
• 1:11:50
  there's always been There were race riots in the seventies, there were race riots
• 1:11:56
  in the nineties, and so there's always been this kind of thing. It's
• 1:12:00
  just there are more people who are comfortable engaging in false dichotomy thinking and taking
• 1:12:10
  it to a perspective where a place where they won't hear the opposite perspective or
• 1:12:15
  alternate perspectives to their own, where they won't look at evidence, and where
• 1:12:20
  they are willing to engage in violence and social cancelation, like social assassination of
• 1:12:30
  the other side. That's that's spreading, and it is like a cancer.
• 1:12:39
  Yeah, all right, well, let us know what you guys think about
• 1:12:42
  this one of the comments. We're going to move on to the final story.
• 1:12:45
  I look forward to your thoughts on that. Okay, So in news
• 1:12:51
  that probably feels like it should have taken a lot less time than it did.
• 1:12:58
  Did you ever come away reading nineteen thinking wow? Or well, is
• 1:13:01
  such a misogynist? According to a biographer, of Orwell's wife. Or Well's
• 1:13:06
  wife, that's a weird one. As cited by the Telegraph, the darkness
• 1:13:12
  that runs through nineteen eighty four is a reflection of Orwell's soul. Quote he
• 1:13:17
  desperately wants to be decent, and wanting to be decent is an honorable thing,
• 1:13:21
  a noble thing. But writing a book like nineteen eighty four, which
• 1:13:26
  is violent, misogynistic, sadistic, grim paranoid that comes out of a writer's
• 1:13:30
  flaws. It takes someone who is those things to go deep inside themselves and
• 1:13:34
  pull that vision out. A decent, everyman, underdog, the ordinary person
• 1:13:40
  that he might have wanted to be, would not have had those visions.
• 1:13:44
  She then added, it's a very curious thing that's going on. He is
• 1:13:47
  not a man of his time. It's not to be excused and thought of
• 1:13:51
  as back in the day. The Telegraph article titled George Orwell was sadistic,
• 1:13:58
  misogynistic, homophobic and sometimes violent, has no quote attributed to Orwell to prove
• 1:14:03
  this alleged misogyny and homophobia, and according to PG Media, who's the source
• 1:14:09
  for this article, the entire article is premised on the musings of the hyper
• 1:14:14
  feminist biographer of Orwell's wife, who died in nineteen forty five, and whom
• 1:14:17
  the biographer obviously never spoke to any quote. It seems Orwell's mistake, or
• 1:14:26
  at least what he failed to foresee, was the extent to which socialism could
• 1:14:31
  and would manifest itself. It was the same mistake so many non socialists would
• 1:14:38
  make. I think he anticipated being called a fascist for the sacrilegious things he
• 1:14:45
  predicted. Even by the nineteen forties, it was already an established socialist tactic
• 1:14:51
  to simply call everyone who disagrees with you a fascist. It's a tactic that
• 1:14:57
  has survived to this day and only become more powerful as the general public loses
• 1:15:03
  any sense of a practical definition of what fascism even means. But of course,
• 1:15:10
  socialism, as these saints do, has traveled the path of least resistance,
• 1:15:15
  and when it came to the already decad and already industrialized West, the
• 1:15:21
  path of least resistance is the path of least exam the power dynamic between men
• 1:15:28
  and women. All Well lived in a world where the figureheads of dictatorship were
• 1:15:34
  all male, whether it was Lenin or Hitler or Hirohito or whatever. That's
• 1:15:42
  why he referred to the incorporeal leader as big Brother, because it's not the
• 1:15:47
  father has portrayed in the Ibahamic faiths. It's an authority claiming the ostensibly equal
• 1:15:57
  status of a brother are still very much a male godhead. If he if
• 1:16:04
  he were to profit a vision truly ahead of its time, then he would
• 1:16:09
  have called it Big Sister, that Wohilch profers equality among women with no consideration
• 1:16:16
  for anyone else. But if he had called it big Sister, you can
• 1:16:21
  bet the feminists would have headed him off at the past and declared nineteen eighty
• 1:16:26
  four a massage in his handbook many years in advance, and had him quote
• 1:16:33
  unquote canceled out of existence before any of us were even born. It was
• 1:16:40
  the shortcomings of his clairvoyance in this area that kept him on good terms with
• 1:16:45
  the feminists for so long. So yeah, oh well, he took the
• 1:16:51
  slings of you're a fascist, and he took the arrows of you're a communist,
• 1:16:59
  and he was careful able to dodge them all by finding allegories that refute
• 1:17:03
  both sides. But he never anticipated the flavor of the tribulations of the twenty
• 1:17:10
  first century, where you're a misogynist or you're a racist, is all anyone
• 1:17:15
  needs to say, and it'll happen to everyone. That author you liked from
• 1:17:20
  fifty years ago. They didn't understand how oppressive white people are, so they
• 1:17:26
  got to go that author you liked from thirty years ago. They didn't understand
• 1:17:30
  how oppressive straight people are, so they gotta go that author you liked from
• 1:17:34
  ten years ago. They didn't understand how oppressive cisgendered people are, so they
• 1:17:40
  gotta go that author you liked from yesterday. They didn't understand what you decided
• 1:17:46
  to hate yesterday, so they got to go. This is as much as
• 1:17:51
  ohwell did indeed predict. There will be nothing new, nothing novel. There
• 1:17:58
  will be no history, no context to anything, just this insistence that things
• 1:18:05
  have always been this way and always will be I and people will fall for
• 1:18:11
  it, not just because of class warfare, but because of what we call
• 1:18:15
  gender warfare, bleeding out as it did into race warfare, sexual orientation warfare,
• 1:18:23
  ability warfare, ironically enough, everything but class warfare, until there is
• 1:18:31
  nothing but one great machine AI acting as the upper class. All they had
• 1:18:38
  to do was call everyone racist and sexist. The path of least resistance,
• 1:18:44
  and it's because we didn't resist. Pardon us here, anti Badgeridia for resisting.
• 1:18:50
  I hope we die naturally before the Singularity gets hold of us and downloads
• 1:18:56
  our brains into an infinite nightmare of unimaginable torture. Maybe it's our own fault
• 1:19:01
  for being such misogynists, will tell ourselves as we scream into the void forever
• 1:19:10
  louder and louder than ever. And oh yeah, it's honestly just typical feminist
• 1:19:17
  use of a typical feminist weapon. It's it's not really about him being misogynists.
• 1:19:24
  That's that's why they didn't have to have evidence. It's why they didn't
• 1:19:28
  have any quotes or anything like that. It's because it's it's about trying to
• 1:19:32
  get rid of him, and calling someone a misogynist happens to be the most
• 1:19:39
  effective weapon right now, or at least it has been for quite some time,
• 1:19:45
  and they're expecting that people aren't fed up enough with it too, you
• 1:19:51
  know, to make it not work this time. And that's it. It's
• 1:19:56
  complete mercenary use of the term. And it absolutely has nothing to do with
• 1:20:01
  what they really think of him, and everything to do with trying to eliminate
• 1:20:06
  an effective critic of that type of authoritarian collectivism. That's it. Yeah,
• 1:20:16
  they had to so now or well late to the party. But he can
• 1:20:24
  now join his peers doctor Seuss, R. Elstein, Rold Doll, who
• 1:20:30
  else, I guess basically Tolkien and C. S. Lewis, considering they're
• 1:20:35
  butchering their work. Just everyone. Yeah, yeah, oh except for Stephen
• 1:20:43
  King, who is siding with the feminists. So he thinks he's immune,
• 1:20:47
  like, oh, I'll be at the right hand of the devil, that
• 1:20:50
  it's better than being in his path. But he has Stephen King good luck
• 1:20:56
  is that? No, he's all hft hp loft. They did get craft.
• 1:21:09
  Yeah, so yeah, because of his cat. I mean, I
• 1:21:15
  admit I'm jealous and I would I wish I'd come up with that, but
• 1:21:17
  anyway, so yeah, I mean, it's not it should be surprising.
• 1:21:23
  I thought it'd be a decent way to end the show because we are ending
• 1:21:27
  with an author who tried to warn us, and we're gonna go into the
• 1:21:33
  Patron Show to talk about another author that well where we we could try to
• 1:21:41
  warn or we could just let things go. But yeah, so all right,
• 1:21:46
  well, thank you for coming on the show. We're gonna go into
• 1:21:48
  the patron show. Now we're gonna read through the Stephen King thing and if
• 1:21:54
  you guys want to join us, become a badgery yourself. Are going to
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  feed the Badger dot com and setting up a monthly subscription. Oh, I
• 1:22:00
  got a super chow, so I better put that up on the screen.
• 1:22:05
  Richard Bierre gives us five dollars and wrote a giant paragraph. He says,
• 1:22:12
  have you seen the saw getting stopped for drunk driving? A thing about the
• 1:22:15
  closure of Jezebel is that the next magazine of that genre will have an uphill
• 1:22:19
  battle, as the now unemployed Jezebels won't take kindly to anyone usurping their relevance.
• 1:22:27
  After all, how many political scandals have there been that always were just
• 1:22:30
  short of being of the same magnitude as Watergate? Because Woodward and Bernstein will
• 1:22:35
  absolutely never be upstage as long as they are alive. Well, I imagine
• 1:22:41
  that a lot of the women I mean there are I guess there are also
• 1:22:44
  men that work at Jezebel, But a lot of the folks from Jezebel that
• 1:22:46
  have left are all thinking I'm gonna build my own Jezebel with you know,
• 1:22:53
  blackjack and hookers male hookers though obviously can't be you know, be like objectifying
• 1:23:00
  the women's and yeah, I mean I I don't know. I suspect that
• 1:23:05
  they will find work and where, and they're not going away. They're probably
• 1:23:10
  gonna be writing freelance, or they're gonna build their own website, or they'd
• 1:23:13
  be writing for other feminist websites, gonna go join the mary sou They're gonna
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  go right for you know, Hollywood. I mean, there's a writer strike
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  anyway, and nobody knows what they're doing over there, or or maybe they're
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  gonna fire everyone and replace everybody with AI. The best thing about tomorrow is
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  we don't know what's coming what. Sometimes sometimes I kind of think they were
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  AI already, well, they were certainly in put Out the I. I
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  and I try to make them as engaging as possible. And hey, if
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  any of you, if any of you new people are in the vicinity of
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  Virginia, myself and Brian and Lauren and Lizzy will be meeting up in some
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  public venue in the vicinity of Roanoke, Virginia this Saturday. Do we know
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  what the venue is yet? I'm I'm thinking the Pirates Sip. I think
• 1:24:36
  that would be. It's a it's a great bar. It's called the Pirate
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  Sip and they got you know, drink, food, karaoke, so and
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  it's and it's it's it's a very you know, it's a it's a nice
• 1:24:49
  little place. I looked into it. So I'm thinking the Pirate Sip.
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  And yeah, it'll be on on Saturday. I mentioned this last We're you
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  know, like, I would probably show up there around I don't know,
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  six pm or something and just stay for Is that too early or that seems
• 1:25:11
  that seems too late? Oh okay, well we can do four one when
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  it's up to you. I don't have a I don't have a trend.
• 1:25:19
  I'm just tagging along with yeah, yeah, yeah when whenever I could be
• 1:25:24
  there, like most of the day, it don't matter to me. But
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  yeah, it'll be on Saturday, probably like in the afternoon, and uh
• 1:25:34
  yeah, just you know, try to come see us. We haven't been
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  able to do any of these meetups for a while because of certain things that
• 1:25:41
  were going on in the world, but I think we can sort of try
• 1:25:45
  to get back to a sense of normal normalcy. So and it won't be
• 1:25:49
  the only time we'll do it again, you know. So. Uh.
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