Latest / Why We Do What We Do / Mini: Mood Rings
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- 0:03You're listening to Why we do what we do? Welcome to Why we do
- 0:16what we do. I am your host Abraham, and I'm your host Shane,
- 0:19and we are a psychology podcast and we like to take these bite sized
- 0:23topics of psychological phenomenon, events, things, constructs, ideas, whatever,
- 0:28and we break them down into easy, digestible, understandable pieces. And this
- 0:33is our attempt to do this now, but by talking about things that we
- 0:37were on our fingers. Yes, so we are talking about mood rings.
- 0:41So this is the horror divorce of episodes. If you get that's how you
- 0:44pronounce that, right, That's why I'm gonna go with Yeah, that's right.
- 0:48I read very literally, I think just for people who maybe don't don't
- 0:54get the visual it is or dervs or derves. Yes, yes, yes,
- 0:58yes French. I try to learn in French in college and I took
- 1:02I dropped out of college because of French. Like why did these letters not
- 1:07say there sounds? Yeah, I'm gonna go back to Spanish. Anyway,
- 1:11As you said, we are talking about jewelry that tells us what temperature we
- 1:15are and implied in that, or at least what some people then believe is
- 1:21that indicates what we're feeling. And you know what, to some degree,
- 1:26it's not terribly far off. I mean as far off, but it's not
- 1:30as far off as we might think. Yeah, so you might be going
- 1:32into this episode going clearly mood rings are based on temperature, and yes it
- 1:37is. However, as you'll see and as we unpack, our temperature does
- 1:41change depending on how we feel. Fair, all right, so let's talk
- 1:44about this. What is a mood ring, a mood ring, or any
- 1:47mood jewelry because it does not have to be a ring, but it is
- 1:49a type of jewelry or adornment that contains a mood stone. This is a
- 1:56stone that mood in the past because it is a cawstone. Mood mod or
- 2:01thermochromatic element, which will break that word down because I think implied, I
- 2:07mean, the name kind of gives away what's going on there. Yeah.
- 2:10So thermochromatic, as you can guess, refers to substance that change color due
- 2:15to temperature. So thermo comes from the Greek terms thermos, which means hot
- 2:20or thermae which means heat, where chromatic has origins in Greek, which includes
- 2:23chroma chromat and chromaticose French which is chromatique, and Latin which is chromaticus.
- 2:30So you could see heat and the color and all that stuff, Like all
- 2:36of that together. That's really ultimately what it means, heat and color together.
- 2:39Hot color. Hot color is what we're talking about here, neon color.
- 2:46Yeah, you would have also seen this in the root where we talked
- 2:47about tetrachromats humans. You can see more than the color spectrum that most humans
- 2:53can see, so similar there. Some mood rings are characterized by a few
- 2:58features. One maybe most importantly is there cheap That is a very common feature
- 3:02of mood rings. Huh. These are easily malleable metals with colorful changing stone
- 3:08insets that are supposed to change based on your mood. Therefore sort of allowing
- 3:15someone a visual into your mind, into your state of being via rock on
- 3:22your body, right exactly. During the nineteen seventies, this was a major
- 3:27fashion movement, Like people were obsessed with these things, similar to kind of
- 3:30how pet rocks existed, you know, and I think every generation has that,
- 3:35Like our generation had beanie babies, and we had hit clips. I
- 3:38don't know if you remember those, but so HitClips were the mood rings of
- 3:43the late nineteen nineties. So if you don't remember HitClips, HitClips were like
- 3:46these like weird key chains that had like a sample of a song on it
- 3:50that you would put into this like specific device for it, and it would
- 3:53just play like half of hit Me Baby One More Time or something like that.
- 3:57I mean, that's really the whole song, you just didn't repeat as
- 4:00many times. Yeah, exactly. So they actually cited jeweler Marvin Wernick as
- 4:04the original inventor of the accessory. Supposedly he'd been reading an article about the
- 4:09technology being used, like the specific the liquid being used for medical thermometers being
- 4:15the liquid that's in the stones kind of like measure body temperature, and from
- 4:17there he created a jewelry and began selling these quote magic stones, it called
- 4:21the magic Jewelry magic stones to identify people's moods. You know what they say,
- 4:27observation of medical equipment is the mother of invention. That is, that
- 4:32is the saying yes. Joshua Reynolds then came in as a mass producer of
- 4:38the jewelry of the mood rings. So by the end of nineteen seventy five,
- 4:41mood rings sales had skyrocketed, selling about fifteen million dollars worth of the
- 4:46product. Now that might not be much by today's standards. I mean,
- 4:49everyone's like a poultry. Fifteen million, I've got that all my back pocket,
- 4:55Yeah, of course, But adjusting for inflation, that is about eighty
- 4:59nine million dollars in twenty twenty four money, so not that much. Still
- 5:03still not that much, but but it's still it's still quite a feat for
- 5:08I guess fad jewelry, right, and mood rings can be purchased for so
- 5:12cheap that buy our estimates with mood rings, let's say, costing about three
- 5:15twenty five at the most, close to twenty seven point five million rings were
- 5:19sold in nineteen seventy five alone, So people were really into this. You
- 5:25know that there was somebody who had like ten rings on every finger and three
- 5:29rings on every toe. Yeah, I mean the Mandarin from Iron Man,
- 5:32he had ten rings. So that's right. That is a fact, is
- 5:36what they said. What they say, I mean, that's what happened.
- 5:40So it's indisputable. All right. We should understand how these colors, how
- 5:46the reflection of light off of a stone on your body is the window to
- 5:49our souls after we create a window for the opposite of souls, which is
- 5:54advertisements. Okay, we're back. We're talking about how to feel or how
- 6:05to tell how someone feels using the visible spectrum of light. There are a
- 6:11lot of interpretations for what mood rings mean for us when we wear them.
- 6:14And I'm gonna go ahead and go with the chart that I found that had
- 6:16similar or consistent report outs for the colors. And so this is going to
- 6:20kind of harken back to the color Psychology episode two and what that kind of
- 6:24So like, we're going to get into that a little bit. But if
- 6:27you want to know what your mood ring means, here is a nice easy
- 6:31way to interpret it. First. If your mood ring is red, then
- 6:34you are either feeling intense, feeling angry, or feeling passionate. Sure,
- 6:41that's all intuitive. Yeah. If your color is orange, then you are
- 6:45feeling orange. Oh sorry, I mean you're feeling aggressive, irritated, and
- 6:48impatient, which is subtly distinct from intense, angry and passionate. Yes,
- 6:56yes, yes, yes. Yellow is nervous, unset, or distracted.
- 7:00In the Green Lantern comics, yellow is fear. Oh, green is envious.
- 7:05Actually, it is fresh, amused, and active. Uh huh,
- 7:11which I thought fresh was a funny one. I've never described my mood as
- 7:14fresh. Yeah, I also don't think that I have. I thought it
- 7:18was a fun one. I want to now I'm gonna start using that.
- 7:21Yeah, I'm feeling fresh today. Blue is calm, peaceful, and content.
- 7:26This is not to be confused with royal blue, which is passionate,
- 7:30love and romantic. I'm not sure if he showed me blue and showed me
- 7:32royal blue, if I'd be able to tell you which one was royal blue
- 7:36versus regular blue. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. And then there's dark blue,
- 7:41which is happiness, joy and optimistic, which I thought was interesting because
- 7:45blue was equated often with depression and sadness, So I thought that was kind
- 7:47of a fun little play on that. Blue is like really heavily represented in
- 7:54the color scheme of the Stone. I feel like there's probably a level where
- 7:57they went, I don't know that most peop book can identify indigo. Sure,
- 8:01so they went, Okay, we'll just do a lot of blue.
- 8:05Then we have purple, which is balanced, tranquil and satisfied. Yes,
- 8:09And then there's black, which is stressed, overworked and tired. That seems
- 8:13like a big jump from one to the other when I feel like those should
- 8:16be much further apart. But if you're having trouble remembering the order of those
- 8:20colors, you can think of the rainbow where you have roy g Yeah,
- 8:28that's that's uh, that's perfect. I'm so glad that you gave us that.
- 8:33I was not gonna remember it until then. All right, let's talk
- 8:35about how this works or does it work? Okay, So your body temperature
- 8:39can change based on blood flow, So there is the connection we see here
- 8:43in terms of like how warm you are, how much blood is flowing that
- 8:46can then show up as warmth, and therefore that could certainly be registered as
- 8:52something different than how you would be in a different state. That implication is,
- 8:56does your body temperature change based on your mood? Specific like if I'm
- 9:01feeling unsettled or joyful? Is that reliably and demonstrably measured via my body temperature
- 9:09in a way? First of all, your body temperature does change on your
- 9:11mood. Yes, that's the thing. It is, correct, is the
- 9:13mood ring changing based on your mood? Only in like this loose correlational sense,
- 9:20If any if we can make that jump. Right. So basically,
- 9:24like, yes, your body, like your physiology does change depending on your
- 9:28mood, and we'll talk about that in a second. But the mood ring
- 9:31is not changing because you're feeling angry. It's changing because maybe your blood is
- 9:35flowing faster in your body, and like that's your temperature is higher as a
- 9:39result, Like you would get the same effect from being really really really angry
- 9:43and also jogging right exactly, you know, So like that's kind of how
- 9:46that works. Now. The molecules in the stone or the crystal that are
- 9:48in set in the jewelry are highly sensitive the temperature changes. And when I
- 9:52say highly sensitive, I simply mean when the temperature changes, they will change.
- 9:58They're not sensitive to mood, right, They are sensitive to the temperature
- 10:01changes in your body. And when the temperature changes, the molecules themselves will
- 10:05either change position or they'll twist. And what I mean by that is essentially
- 10:09the actual molecules inside of the in the liquid crystal that's in there, they
- 10:13will position or twist, and then that affects how the wavelengths of light are
- 10:16absorbed and reflected through those different molecules. And that's why you see the changes
- 10:20because the molecules themselves are changing, but depending on heat. So the mood
- 10:24ring crystals are inset in a metal alloy that help conduct heat directly into the
- 10:28liquid. So it's important that like they be able to detect temperature to be
- 10:33able to change. So the alloy is set up so that heat does conduct
- 10:37through it and depending on the temperature, will then alter those colors. Right,
- 10:41so you very rarely see a mood ring that's plastic, is all I'm
- 10:45saying. Fair Green is the middle ground. They say green is like the
- 10:48temperature that's like kind of the standard fare. The liquid for the color green
- 10:52approximately sits at eighty two degrees fahrenheit or twenty eight degrees celsius. And if
- 10:56your body temperature is at eighty two degrees fahrenheit, if you're wearing a mood
- 10:58rate and it's green, you need to call a doctor. So our body
- 11:03does not sit at that level. That is a weird thing to pick.
- 11:05Now we're in the nineties, we're in the high nineties, and it does
- 11:09not alter much between being like normal and being sick. So right eighty two
- 11:15is someone who is like cooling from a recent death. Right Anyway, remember
- 11:22when we said back, we said a black mood ring means that you're stressed.
- 11:26Well, when you're stressed, your body reallocates blood flow to major muscle
- 11:28groups and essential organs. Your fingers aren't essential in a crisis, so they'll
- 11:33get less blood flow. So the idea than being that if we are to
- 11:37correlate these together, the idea is it's going to be colder. If your
- 11:43body's going to be colder when you're you're more stressed, and if that's the
- 11:48case, then their mood ring is going to show up as black. Right,
- 11:50So basically, all this boils down to is blood flow equals temperature change.
- 11:54Temperature change equals color change. That's all that happens. There is no
- 12:00mood in the equation. You know, there's lots of different variables that equate
- 12:03to temperature change in your body. Mood could be one of them, but
- 12:07it's not the thing that always changes in your body to change temperature. And
- 12:11ultimately, the only thing that happens is temperature changes around is conducted into the
- 12:16liquid in the mood ring, and that's why we have those. Yeah,
- 12:20just unpacking this skeptically, there's just so many steps removed from measuring mood right,
- 12:26First of all, like we have to assume that our body temperature is
- 12:30reliably correlated with specific moods, which I don't think that we can say.
- 12:33We have to then say that, like the color that we get from those
- 12:37temperatures is a reliable interpretation of what those temperatures are, and that means that
- 12:41they're therefore insightful way to looking at someone's mood. I mean, it's so
- 12:46many steps to get to, like, is this reliable and consistent? No,
- 12:48therefore the rest of it fails. But let's say it was reliable and
- 12:52consistent. Can we be confident that each mood measures it as relevant to that
- 12:56person for their basal temperature, for their moods, for their relative like blood
- 13:01flow. No, we can't say that, So then the rest of it
- 13:03falls apart. And it's sort of like at every step, if it did
- 13:07work, the rest of it, like if the previous step did work,
- 13:11then the subsequent step would fall apart, because none of this really does anything,
- 13:15like and I think if we look at why people got so wrapped up
- 13:18in this, the idea of like short cut like little tips and tricks,
- 13:24something that you can buy that will give people sort of this magical insight into
- 13:30the inner worlds that are our lives. That's always been something that's fascinated people.
- 13:35Sure, I mean definitely being able to more easily interpret someone else's body
- 13:39language, to be able to interpret more easily like their experiences without trying to
- 13:46make a lot of inferences and guesses, has I think general social value as
- 13:50well as it could have useful forensic value. Let's say, like if they
- 13:54could slap a mood ring on a criminal and determine whether or not they're lying,
- 13:58they would one hundred percent do that, right. Sure, the appeal
- 14:01has been there for a long time for a lot of reasons to try and
- 14:03have a window into the internal workings of another person. So that's I think
- 14:09why these were successful in appealing to a lot of people. But can we
- 14:13actually use these reliably and meaningfully to understand how someone feels, not even kind
- 14:20of a little bit like now, the best we get like what their ambient
- 14:24temperature seems to be, which all is also going to be by the way,
- 14:26include room temperature, Like it's not only conducting temperature from their skin,
- 14:31so whatever is the temperature around them, plus whatever is going on in their
- 14:35blood. I mean, really, you have essentially like a linear scale on
- 14:39this right, So, like they're basically saying, like a couple of degrees
- 14:43up is what temperature looks like for this mood or not even a couple maybe
- 14:48a half a degree up, And like, I think those kind of fluctuations
- 14:50are things that we cannot reliably associate it with any kind of state of mind,
- 14:54let alone something as like distinct as blue to royal blue to dark blue,
- 15:01span calm to joy from three almost indistinguishable colors. Well, even a
- 15:07manta strip can't, who has more cones and rods in its eyes and is
- 15:11supposed to be able to see a much more distinct and discriminative color spectrum,
- 15:16cannot distinguish between blue and royal blue. Like, let's not pretend for a
- 15:20second, you know, I think with all that being said, because I
- 15:22think one of the things about being a skeptic sometimes is that it takes the
- 15:26fun out of things. I think mood rings are still really fun. They're
- 15:28still really fun to play with. It's fun to mess with that material and
- 15:31experiment with it and kind of just see something that you can actively and scientifically
- 15:35change in your world. Like, I think it's fun and mostly harmless.
- 15:39It's they're fairly cheap in general. You can win them at Chuck E Cheese
- 15:43when you have enough tickets if you want to. I mean not saying the
- 15:46Chuck e Cheese isn't harmless that that entertainment rat is like kind of like the
- 15:50CD underbelly of rat entertainment, and so, you know, but I think
- 15:54I think being able to get enough tickets to get a mood ring, I
- 15:58think it's perfectly fine personally, no qualms with mood rings whatsoever. Sure,
- 16:03yeah, I think that's fair. You know, as you said, it
- 16:06is just it is doing the skeptics work. It is understanding this from the
- 16:10psychological perspective. But anyway, I think that's what we have to say on
- 16:12moodrings. We've gone a little bit long. Is there anything to add or
- 16:15anything you'd like to say before we wrap up? No, feeling pretty green
- 16:18right now. Feeling real fresh, feeling real fresh. If you'd like to
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