Latest / HEAVY Music Interviews / Every Rose Has Its Thorn With NAMELESS From GHOST BATH
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm Dennis from the band ghost Bath. We have a
- 0:03Speaker 1: new album called Rose Thorn Necklace coming out May ninth
- 0:07Speaker 1: on Nuclear Blast.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Beautifully, that's a perfect introduction for this time of morning. Brother,
- 0:14Speaker 2: How are you doing today?
- 0:17Speaker 1: Uh? Pretty good? Getting a little tired. I've been up
- 0:19Speaker 1: since like five point thirty in the morning. It's evening now,
- 0:22Speaker 1: but I'm feeling good.
- 0:24Speaker 2: I think I'll beat up for about ten minutes night,
- 0:26Speaker 2: so I hence me having puffy eyes and looking sleepy still.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Hell yeah, As you mentioned, GST releasing new album Royds
- 0:35Speaker 2: Thorn Necklace on May the ninth, so it's about a
- 0:38Speaker 2: month away. I wrote, how are you feeling about it?
- 0:42Speaker 1: Pretty good? Pretty excited to just get it out. You know,
- 0:44Speaker 1: I don't really like releasing just singles. I just want
- 0:47Speaker 1: the whole album out for people to check out. But
- 0:49Speaker 1: you know it's coming up. Uh yeah, just like one month.
- 0:52Speaker 1: So excited to get it out there and start touring
- 0:55Speaker 1: on it and all that.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Actually right, right, it's a pretty good part then, might
- 0:59Speaker 2: because music like yours, So I didn't listen through the
- 1:01Speaker 2: album last night, and music like yours needs to be
- 1:04Speaker 2: digested in a in a whole package like released as
- 1:07Speaker 2: singles wouldn't do justice really with it.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get why it's done. It like
- 1:12Speaker 1: builds hype and people will he hear the single. Oh
- 1:15Speaker 1: I want to hear the whole album now, so it
- 1:16Speaker 1: makes sense. But yeah, I mean personally I don't. I
- 1:20Speaker 1: don't listen to like one song by a band. I'll
- 1:22Speaker 1: listen to you know, their album.
- 1:23Speaker 2: So yeah, nice. So I can tell us a bit
- 1:26Speaker 2: more about the album from a musical point of view
- 1:27Speaker 2: and what you were gone for.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Uh sure, Yeah. Musically, I was going for my own
- 1:37Speaker 1: take on like depressive black metal, but more in like
- 1:41Speaker 1: a like a lifelover vein where it's like, I don't know,
- 1:44Speaker 1: a little bit dance here in parts, but still dark
- 1:47Speaker 1: and I don't know. I always try to do like
- 1:51Speaker 1: a contrast between like beauty but then like heaviness, and
- 1:56Speaker 1: that usually comes from like, you know, the the more melodic,
- 1:59Speaker 1: pretty guitar parts and contrasted with like the the vocals
- 2:04Speaker 1: like either being like high pitched shrieks or like low
- 2:07Speaker 1: growls and stuff like that. So I just like to
- 2:10Speaker 1: play with contrasts a lot, And yeah, that's kind of
- 2:13Speaker 1: what I was going for.
- 2:14Speaker 2: No, Yeah, it's describing the press releases, you have my
- 2:17Speaker 2: intricate and retrospective album to date. Would you agree with that.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Most intricate? I mean yeah, kind of. I mean I like,
- 2:30Speaker 1: I recorded all this one just in my studio here
- 2:33Speaker 1: at home, and I was like kept recording re recording parts,
- 2:36Speaker 1: and I mean it's it's intricate and like I don't know,
- 2:40Speaker 1: the guitar picking and like the drums being more chaotic
- 2:45Speaker 1: and like all over the place. But I don't know,
- 2:49Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really like a technical guitarist, so
- 2:51Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's like it's more like, uh, deliberate
- 2:56Speaker 1: maybe than intricate.
- 2:57Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, right, that's eathing of the dreaded
- 3:00Speaker 2: singles bro you didn't release to you you got well
- 3:04Speaker 2: Tried Drowning and the title track right so on Necklace,
- 3:07Speaker 2: I think you good representation of the album as a whole.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Do they just sketch yourself this a little bit?
- 3:17Speaker 1: I mean a little of both. I don't know. I
- 3:19Speaker 1: think like each song has its own thing to add,
- 3:22Speaker 1: So if you only listen to these two and not
- 3:23Speaker 1: really going to get like a full scope of what
- 3:25Speaker 1: all the album goes into. But I think it like
- 3:30Speaker 1: these two singles show like sort of the overall like
- 3:33Speaker 1: vibe and and feel of the record and like the
- 3:35Speaker 1: emotion that that I'm kind of trying to explore. And yeah,
- 3:41Speaker 1: like Rosto Neckley shows some sort of like the more
- 3:44Speaker 1: soft side, and like While I Tried Drowning is kind
- 3:47Speaker 1: of the heavier side, and I kind of like explore
- 3:50Speaker 1: that and everywhere in between on the records.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's been foy since your last albumself while
- 3:57Speaker 2: they came out, mate, So what's what's changed with guys
- 4:00Speaker 2: in between albums?
- 4:08Speaker 1: Well, the last album we wrote as an entire band
- 4:12Speaker 1: and this one I just wrote by myself. So that's
- 4:15Speaker 1: one big change from that album to this one. Uh,
- 4:19Speaker 1: I don't know, four years older, Yeah, yeah, uh, four
- 4:28Speaker 1: more years of touring and you know, playing on the
- 4:30Speaker 1: road and just experiences of life and stuff like that.
- 4:33Speaker 1: So a lot more that went into the record, and
- 4:36Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess I got a little bit
- 4:39Speaker 1: better like kind of portraying what I want to when
- 4:42Speaker 1: I'm when I'm writing and stuff like that.
- 4:46Speaker 2: You mentioned you write this one by yourself in the
- 4:48Speaker 2: last one with the band, Like, what were the differences
- 4:51Speaker 2: did you like was it noticeable for you in the
- 4:53Speaker 2: final product.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, Like I can always, you know,
- 4:59Speaker 1: tell and it's a part that I've written or not.
- 5:02Speaker 1: So I just have like my own style, my own voice,
- 5:05Speaker 1: and so do the other guys in the band. So
- 5:09Speaker 1: you know, when they write something, I can kind of tell, oh,
- 5:11Speaker 1: that's like a John riff. Who's another guitarist, So that's
- 5:14Speaker 1: a Tim riff.
- 5:15Speaker 2: You know.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Everyone kind of has their own style. So yeah, when
- 5:18Speaker 1: I when I I don't know, this whole one's my
- 5:21Speaker 1: own style. And I think people can tell, like my
- 5:26Speaker 1: like my producer who I showed my previous producer when
- 5:31Speaker 1: I sent it to him, He's like, oh, yeah, I
- 5:32Speaker 1: could tell this is a dentist song.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Hopefully that's a compliment, I think. So. Yeah, there's quite
- 5:42Speaker 2: the press release from me that I found quite interesting.
- 5:44Speaker 2: There's a couple actually, But once said, I set out
- 5:46Speaker 2: to explore some disturbing things and the lyrics, the music
- 5:49Speaker 2: and the artwork. But can you elab rate on that
- 5:52Speaker 2: a bit to find disturbing in the lyrics, like personally
- 5:56Speaker 2: disturbing or globally or.
- 6:01Speaker 1: I mean, I just yeah, I like set out to
- 6:03Speaker 1: be really like specific and detailed and like describing some
- 6:08Speaker 1: I don't know, just like gross scenes or events. There's
- 6:12Speaker 1: a lot of like sexual imagery and like gore and
- 6:16Speaker 1: like wounds and I don't know, all kind of stuff
- 6:19Speaker 1: like that, and I just kind of like don't didn't
- 6:21Speaker 1: hold myself back and like with the lyrics, so if
- 6:24Speaker 1: you like read through them, they're just like pretty, it's
- 6:26Speaker 1: pretty apparent what's going on or like how gross the
- 6:29Speaker 1: situation is or you know, depending on which song you're
- 6:33Speaker 1: looking at. So I don't know, it's just being more
- 6:37Speaker 1: like blunt and to the point with all that kind
- 6:39Speaker 1: of stuff and like vivid and like I don't know,
- 6:43Speaker 1: almost like a horror type way. With the lyrics, you.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Get that way He's get altitude though, bro, like you
- 6:50Speaker 2: have more blood, Like you just haven't got time to
- 6:52Speaker 2: fuck around and try and pamp to people. So you
- 6:54Speaker 2: guys have you?
- 6:55Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very true.
- 7:00Speaker 2: I first run through the press release, there's the one
- 7:01Speaker 2: in there that referred to Sonic Visions throughout the album,
- 7:04Speaker 2: and at the time I didn't know what it meant.
- 7:06Speaker 2: But when I sat down and listened to the album,
- 7:08Speaker 2: it's it's exactly what it is, like if you if
- 7:11Speaker 2: you let yourself get immersed in it. It does take
- 7:14Speaker 2: you off and it does give you a vision, like
- 7:15Speaker 2: it can take you down a path wherever you let
- 7:17Speaker 2: it go. Bro Like, how hard is that to do
- 7:20Speaker 2: with music? Like it couldn't be easy.
- 7:25Speaker 1: I think just over time of like learn to do
- 7:29Speaker 1: that more and more naturally, Like it just comes easier
- 7:31Speaker 1: and easier just from playing the guitar for so long.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I mean I've been playing it for over twenty years now,
- 7:37Speaker 1: and just I don't know, finding my own voice and
- 7:41Speaker 1: my own style to where like when I pick up
- 7:43Speaker 1: a guitar and I want to like write a certain
- 7:45Speaker 1: part or like portray a certain thing, I can do
- 7:50Speaker 1: it pretty easily. So it's kind of like second nature
- 7:53Speaker 1: almost Like yeah.
- 7:54Speaker 2: It's I found it interesting for the fact that, like
- 7:57Speaker 2: because I read a lot of press releases and they've
- 7:59Speaker 2: always got these our descriptions, you know what someone sounds
- 8:02Speaker 2: like when album sounds like normally I don't get it,
- 8:04Speaker 2: to be honest, but with this one, it actually made
- 8:07Speaker 2: sense with sense to me. Once you read it and
- 8:09Speaker 2: then you listen to the album, it made sense. So
- 8:12Speaker 2: you've you've managed to do something that a lot of
- 8:14Speaker 2: bands haven't bro made me see the light? You started
- 8:22Speaker 2: ghost Path back in twenty twelve, So was it was
- 8:26Speaker 2: it the musical climate like back then that made you
- 8:29Speaker 2: think the world needed a band like ghost Bath? Uh?
- 8:35Speaker 1: Well, i'd kind of like given up on music at
- 8:38Speaker 1: that time, and I like went back to college and
- 8:42Speaker 1: I just like started writing ghost Bath stuff for fun
- 8:45Speaker 1: on the side. Like I wasn't really trying to do
- 8:47Speaker 1: anything with it. I was just it was just like
- 8:49Speaker 1: an outlet for me, like an artistic outlet on the
- 8:52Speaker 1: side as a like I was going to school for
- 8:54Speaker 1: a psychology at the time, and then I don't know,
- 9:00Speaker 1: I just I found like a I think it was
- 9:04Speaker 1: like a unique way to do depressive black metal because
- 9:07Speaker 1: I found depressive black metal back then there was already
- 9:09Speaker 1: a genre, and I was like, you know, I could
- 9:11Speaker 1: do this but in my own way, with like more
- 9:13Speaker 1: melody and just using my own voice. So I just
- 9:17Speaker 1: kind of took that idea on it and just ran
- 9:21Speaker 1: with it, and it kind of stuck, and like I
- 9:23Speaker 1: could tell people were into it right away, so I
- 9:26Speaker 1: knew I like had something, and then I just continued
- 9:28Speaker 1: to write albums from there.
- 9:31Speaker 2: To discussion hype, it's not too personal, right, but it
- 9:34Speaker 2: gets described as depressive black metal. Like does writing it
- 9:37Speaker 2: and performing it help you on the level with those
- 9:41Speaker 2: sort of issues?
- 9:44Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd say yeah, both do. Especially writing it, Like
- 9:48Speaker 1: when I'm really depressed or like down, I just pick
- 9:52Speaker 1: up a guitar and like start writing music. So it's
- 9:54Speaker 1: kind of like a catharsis like a way to use
- 9:57Speaker 1: that energy in like a creative way, and then performing
- 10:00Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's different than writing it. Like
- 10:06Speaker 1: I wouldn't say like I have to be like in
- 10:08Speaker 1: a depressed state of mind to perform it, just when
- 10:11Speaker 1: I write it initially, but when I'm on the road
- 10:13Speaker 1: and like performing it, it's just like, uh, it just
- 10:16Speaker 1: kind of like go into that mindset again when I'm
- 10:19Speaker 1: on stage.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Isn't necessarily a good thing for you, But taking you
- 10:23Speaker 2: back into a mindset where you weren't one hundred percent.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Happy, Yeah, maybe not.
- 10:35Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I never really considered it, You're right.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always been against labeling bands, you know, like
- 10:44Speaker 2: music's music to me. But I critic of you guys,
- 10:47Speaker 2: and it came up as not just depressive black metal,
- 10:50Speaker 2: but it was depressive suicidal black metal and I found
- 10:53Speaker 2: that quite offensive, Like to put that term in the
- 10:56Speaker 2: description of music is just wrong. What do you think?
- 11:02Speaker 1: I mean, I think it describes it and the people
- 11:04Speaker 1: who make it pretty accurately. So I don't know. I mean,
- 11:07Speaker 1: I didn't come up with the term. It was like
- 11:09Speaker 1: prety a thing DESBM. I don't know. I think it's
- 11:15Speaker 1: just like it's to the point, it's blunt and it's
- 11:17Speaker 1: not like, you know, dancing around it in any way,
- 11:21Speaker 1: And so a lot of people are attracted to it
- 11:23Speaker 1: and it actually like helps a lot of people who
- 11:26Speaker 1: are suicidal, Like I get told that all the time
- 11:28Speaker 1: it shows and stuff. So I guess I have no
- 11:31Speaker 1: problem with it, like being called cool.
- 11:34Speaker 2: And there's another credit right from you where you said
- 11:36Speaker 2: that you've had whole bands quit on you when showed
- 11:40Speaker 2: them your ideas and music, Like didn't I know what
- 11:42Speaker 2: I was signing up for when they joined the band.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Yeah, So like that's mostly referring to the initial the
- 11:52Speaker 1: initial people that I got together to start ghost Bath
- 11:55Speaker 1: just for fun when I was in North Dakota, And yeah,
- 11:58Speaker 1: I didn't have any music right away, and I wrote
- 12:01Speaker 1: the EP with like the super high pitched screaming vocals.
- 12:06Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know if you've heard the first,
- 12:12Speaker 1: but yeah, they like heard that and they're like, no,
- 12:14Speaker 1: everyone's gonna laugh at us. We can't do this. And
- 12:17Speaker 1: then they thought I was gonna like change the music,
- 12:20Speaker 1: but instead I was just like, oh, I'll just keep
- 12:22Speaker 1: doing the music, but I'll just do it by myself.
- 12:24Speaker 1: So they all quit.
- 12:29Speaker 2: And if you got any any songs coming up to
- 12:31Speaker 2: provide the album.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Most yeah, most recently we got some shows in South America,
- 12:39Speaker 1: Costa Rica, Honduras, in Mexico City, and then we got
- 12:44Speaker 1: like a festival run in Europe was the next main one.
- 12:46Speaker 1: We're playing like Romania, Germany, Belgium, all those places, just
- 12:52Speaker 1: like summer festivals and stuff like that. Those are the
- 12:54Speaker 1: next two tours we got coming up.
- 12:57Speaker 2: All right, Well, thanks very much for you, Tom Broh.
- 12:59Speaker 2: It was being a pleasure speaking with you. The album
- 13:01Speaker 2: at Rose Thorn Necklace is out me the nin then
- 13:03Speaker 2: I found quite an interesting listener, was very good mate,
- 13:06Speaker 2: So best of luck with it.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me