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ROOT REACTION w/ Wayne Allyn Root 07-08-25 Hour 1 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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  Speaker 1: Warning, the Root, the Root, the Roots on fire.
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  Speaker 1: What time is it?
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  Speaker 3: It's time war War.
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  Speaker 2: Here's your host, one hundred percent raw truth, one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent American made the Warrior, Wayne Alan Roots.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome America from the East Coast all the
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  Speaker 4: way on to the West coast everywhere in between. My
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  Speaker 4: name is Lee Elsie, filling in for the one and
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  Speaker 4: only Wayne Allen Root a few very much needed days
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  Speaker 4: of rest for the King of War. So he'll be
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  Speaker 4: back on Thursday nights. I'll make sure you tune in
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  Speaker 4: for sure Thursday night. But I'm here tonight and tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 4: Was here last night as well.
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank all the folks behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: for getting us up.
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  Speaker 4: We are all over the place, man, so we're on
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  Speaker 4: all these great radio stations from coast to coast. Also
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  Speaker 4: rumble X get her up on Untamednation dot com as well,
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  Speaker 4: and of course Root for America has it.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, just to write this down, those of.
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  Speaker 4: You who pay attention to you know when things actually
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  Speaker 4: go viral and explode. On July fourteenth, Wayne Show will
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  Speaker 4: So it will take off, as it's already taken off,
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  Speaker 4: but it'll take off even more like Gangbusters at that
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  Speaker 4: time when all of those eyes are focused on that
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  Speaker 4: page because they have so much traffic at Gateway, so
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  Speaker 4: it'll be it'll.
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  Speaker 1: Be big time.
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  Speaker 4: So July fourteenth, everything probably changes for Wayne Allen Root
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  Speaker 4: and the great listeners out there and the crew behind
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  Speaker 4: the scenes making it all go. So again, my name
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  Speaker 4: is Lee Elsie. I do a morning show here in Connecticut,
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  Speaker 4: but doing that.
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  Speaker 1: For a long long time.
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  Speaker 4: I quote unquote him official the official fill in guy
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  Speaker 4: for Wayne Allen Root, and for a while I was
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  Speaker 4: doing a lot of Friday nights for him as well
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  Speaker 4: because his schedule gets very, very busy. But if you're
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  Speaker 4: out there anywhere and you want to email me, it's
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  Speaker 4: l E E E. L CI Radio at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 4: Leelsiradiot gmail dot com. I literally get hundreds of emails,
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  Speaker 4: thousands sometimes every single day. So I go through them all,
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  Speaker 4: read them all, and we get back to as many
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  Speaker 4: as we can. But it's very hectic, very busy. I
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  Speaker 4: gotta be honest that I fired up today.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 4: The only thing that kept me calm. I think I
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  Speaker 4: ate about three watermelons today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious. I could win. Forget about the hot dog
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  Speaker 1: eating contest. I could win.
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  Speaker 4: I could definitely win a watermelon eating contest. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm feeling a little slow right now. But that that
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  Speaker 4: kind of kept me saying today. Last night I opened
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  Speaker 4: up and I gotta I gotta kind of go down
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  Speaker 4: the same road again tonight, because it's very frustrating to
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  Speaker 4: have the country in a place where the leadership is
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  Speaker 4: is as strong as it's been maybe in decades, and
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  Speaker 4: around the globe things are changing for.
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  Speaker 1: The good of this country.
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  Speaker 4: You know, America is I think becoming once again this
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  Speaker 4: amazing powerhouse where other nations look to it for leadership.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's failed us for a long long time,
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  Speaker 4: for as long as I.
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  Speaker 1: Can remember, since maybe even Reagan.
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  Speaker 4: Where other countries look to us for our guidance and
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  Speaker 4: our leadership and I feel like now that that has
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  Speaker 4: changed significantly, and I'm not going to be able to
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  Speaker 4: get over this Epstein list unless I get some closure.
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  Speaker 1: Because let me throw some stats at you.
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  Speaker 4: There are forty nine point six million modern slavery victims.
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  Speaker 1: Four point eight million.
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  Speaker 4: Are forced sexual workers exploitation. One million. Of those four
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  Speaker 4: point eight are kids one million. And that's basically the
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  Speaker 4: ones that we know about. How many more do we
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  Speaker 4: not know about? Fifty one point six percent of criminal
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  Speaker 4: human trafficking cases involving only children, with twenty six hundred
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  Speaker 4: child trafficking cases reported in twenty twenty alone. This was
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  Speaker 4: according to the National Human Trafficking Hotline, So fifty one
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  Speaker 4: percent of criminal human trafficking cases involve kids. I've screened
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  Speaker 4: about this on my morning show forever. I've talked about
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  Speaker 4: it when I've filled in for Wayne, I've talked about
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  Speaker 4: it when I filled in for other national hosts. As
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  Speaker 4: a as a society for the take of humanity, there's
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  Speaker 4: got to be certain topics where you just draw a
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  Speaker 4: line in the sand and say no. And what happened
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  Speaker 4: at Epstein Island and what happened with Epstein in general
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  Speaker 4: and his cronies is despicable, disgusting, unacceptable, and to think
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  Speaker 4: that we had had promises that were made to us,
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  Speaker 4: promises made by this administration. And I know everyone listening,
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  Speaker 4: I know Wayne is his number one guy.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: And as I talked about this last time last night,
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  Speaker 4: I have completely come done more than a one eighty.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm rooting with the Pom Poms for Trump to
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  Speaker 4: succeed because I think America is in desperate straits. But
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  Speaker 4: there are certain things that come along in a presidency,
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  Speaker 4: in an administration where you can't just sweep it under
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  Speaker 4: the rug. You can't just ignore it, you can't just
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  Speaker 4: act as though nothing happened. And I feel like today
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  Speaker 4: that's what we got. He was asked a question today
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  Speaker 4: and he sort of just brushed it off. Asked a
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  Speaker 4: question in the cabinet meeting. Now, listen, no other.
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  Speaker 1: President does the cabinet meetings like he does.
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  Speaker 5: It's brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy on the doorstep of eighty
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  Speaker 1: who runs literally run circles around people, more.
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  Speaker 4: Energy than anybody, not fake energy like they made up
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  Speaker 4: during the Biden administration, real stuff. And you know, he's
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  Speaker 4: asked a legit question and he ignores it or basically
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  Speaker 4: shrugs it off and tries to make the reporter look
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  Speaker 4: and feel terrible about it. I'm sorry, there has to
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  Speaker 4: be a conclusion. It can't be there's no list. I
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  Speaker 4: will not accept that it cannot be the case. And
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  Speaker 4: now this is caused more mortar fire between the heavies,
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  Speaker 4: more fire from Elon Musk. And they got some audio
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  Speaker 4: and play some audio. This is the White House today.
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  Speaker 4: When asked the question about the list, concluded.
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  Speaker 5: There was no Jeffrey Epstein client list.
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  Speaker 6: What do you tell maggaz supporters who say they want
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  Speaker 6: anyone involved in Jeffrey Epstein's list crimes to be held accountable.
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  Speaker 7: This administration wants anyone who has ever committed a crime
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  Speaker 7: to be held accountable. And I would argue this administration
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  Speaker 7: has done more to lock up bad guys than certainly
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  Speaker 7: the previous administration. And the Trump administration is committed to
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  Speaker 7: truth and to transparency. That's why the Attorney General and
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  Speaker 7: the FBI Director pledged, at the President's direction, to do
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  Speaker 7: an exhaustive review of all of the files related to
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  Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein's crimes and his death. And they put out
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  Speaker 7: a memo in conclusion of that review, there was material
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  Speaker 7: they did not release because frankly, it was incredibly graphic
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  Speaker 7: and it contained child pornography, which is something that's appropriate
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  Speaker 7: for public consumption. But they committed to an exhaustive investigation.
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  Speaker 7: That's what they did, and they provided the results of that.
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  Speaker 7: That's transparency.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, line, Okay, So the FBI looks at the
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  Speaker 6: circumstances frounding the death of Jeffrey Epstein. According to the report,
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  Speaker 6: this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list. So what
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  Speaker 6: happened to the Epstein client list that the Attorney General
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  Speaker 6: said she had on her desk.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think if you go back and look at
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  Speaker 7: what the Attorney General said in that interview which was
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  Speaker 7: on your network on Fox News, Cohan and.
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  Speaker 6: Roberts said, doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?
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  Speaker 3: Will that really happen?
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  Speaker 6: And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now
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  Speaker 6: to review.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork,
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  Speaker 7: all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
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  Speaker 7: That's what the Attorney General was referring to. And I'll
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  Speaker 7: let her speak for that, but again, when it comes
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  Speaker 7: to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are
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  Speaker 7: more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put
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  Speaker 7: behind bars.
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  Speaker 4: I actually believe just about everything that she has to
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  Speaker 4: say there. I believe that Trump. I believe that Trump's
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  Speaker 4: administration they are a law in order administration. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he's proven that, and he's gone out of his way
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  Speaker 4: to prove that. He's gone out of his way to
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  Speaker 4: embrace police departments across the country, FBI, law enforcement in general.
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  Speaker 4: So this is another reason why I'm so frustrated by this,
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  Speaker 4: and I think I speak for a an overwhelming majority
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  Speaker 4: of folks in this country and an overwhelming majority of
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  Speaker 4: MAGA supporters who need a resolution on this, because this
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  Speaker 4: is not a throwaway deal. This is not something that
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  Speaker 4: can be ignored or nor should it be ignored, and
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  Speaker 4: not just because promises were made, but because it's the
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  Speaker 4: right thing to do. The list has to be be
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  Speaker 4: made public. It's really it's almost to the point where
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  Speaker 4: it's non negotiable. All the things that she had said
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  Speaker 4: just then are probably true. It's probably very graphic, but
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  Speaker 4: there is a list that exists somewhere with names of
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  Speaker 4: high profile people and the public deserves to know the
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  Speaker 4: answer to that ugly question of who's on that list,
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  Speaker 4: and the kids that were involved, that were molested and
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  Speaker 4: tortured and raped in some cases, I'm sure they deserve
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  Speaker 4: that closure. For sure, they deserve that vindication. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to figure out a way as to why they
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  Speaker 4: would keep this from all of us, and I can't
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  Speaker 4: get there. So I'm going to take a break and
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  Speaker 4: once again when we come back on a place so
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  Speaker 4: what he said did not sit with me the right
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  Speaker 1: This is the root reaction. I have a friend of
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  Speaker 4: He's actually he just landed, well yesterday actually, to be honest,
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  Speaker 4: he ended yesterday after in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: So he's sent me these pictures.
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  Speaker 4: So the video came on the screen because you can
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of cool. So it's like the dual thing.
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  Speaker 4: You've got the radio across the country and you've got
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  Speaker 4: the video as well. He just just landed in Vegas, Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: I used to live in Vegas, so it's one of
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  Speaker 4: my it's one of my favorite places to be and
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  Speaker 4: I haven't been there in a.
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  Speaker 1: Long long time. So he's sending me pictures and I'm jealous.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so I'm gonna talk about this one more time.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'm gonna let it go for tonight and
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  Speaker 4: we'll see what happens in the next twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 4: But there is a bit of a Twitter war, a
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  Speaker 4: next war going on, and I have to say that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I know Musk and Trump are fighting, and
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  Speaker 4: you know people have taken sides, but.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure where everybody is on Bannon. But Bannon
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  Speaker 4: had this to say about Elon Musk, and none of
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  Speaker 4: it sits well with me.
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  Speaker 5: He's today in another here and this is only a
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  Speaker 5: foreigner could do this.
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  Speaker 1: Think about it.
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  Speaker 5: He's got up on it. He's got up on Twitter
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 3: A poll about starting an American party, a non American
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  Speaker 3: starting an America party.
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  Speaker 1: No, brother, you're not an American.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: You're at South African. And if we take enough time
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: improved the facts of that, you should be deported because
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: it's a crime of what you did.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Among many I'm not even sure what that means at
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: the end, he deported for what for being South African?
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: And up on the X, Musk said, and I quote
• 18:33
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• 18:36
  Speaker 4: called the Bannon will go back to prison, and this
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: time for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: He has a lifetime of crime to pay for.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: So there you go. The fight goes on on the
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: X and this all gets put to bed. This is
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: like the to me, this is the only real speed
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: bump so far that has happened in the Trump presidency.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: And love him or hate him, if you look at
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: what he's done, He's done what he's promised he was
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: going to do. Now you may disagree with what he
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: said he was going to do, but he promised certain
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: things and he's done just about all of them, including
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: cleaning up the border and stopping the trade, stopping the
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: fetanol trade, stopping the sex trade, stopping all the illegal immigrations,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: stopping the criminals coming in, shut it down.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: When Biden said it couldn't be done, he shut it down.
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  Speaker 1: But this, he promised, this.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Was going to be a thing that was going to
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: open the eyes and shine light on the political elite,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the untouchables, so to speak, those folks who you can't
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: get to the swamp. You've got to release this list.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: You've got it. Sorry, that's just my opinion. And I
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: know he listens to the show, and I hope he's listening.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: And I'm telling you right now, mister President, I mean,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I don't you get people who are defending you if
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: even I take a slight criticism in the past, I've
• 20:02
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• 20:05
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• 20:08
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• 20:12
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• 20:14
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• 20:24
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• 20:26
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• 22:01
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  Speaker 4: One of my favorite guests to bring on my morning
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: show here in Connecticut is a brilliant scholar and I
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: don't use those words brilliant lightly. He again has taught
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: at a number of different universities and currently he's a
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: lecturer at UMass Amhurst and his name is Hans Destbain.
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  Speaker 1: Hans, how are you, my friend?
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I'm doing well, Lee, how are you?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. So I know tonight
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit about the big ut.
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  Speaker 3: More secure on the go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry no, no, gohad, what were you gonna say?
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna make a silly joke, but on the radio,
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  Speaker 3: I'm more secure because I forget how handsome you are unbelievable.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: See now I feel uncomfortable. Now this is going in
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: the wrong direction. So listen, I want to ask you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: It's all good funny.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: About because I know we always talk about debt, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: we always talk about economic you know, the plus and
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: minuses of this, But recently I want to talk about
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: tariffs first before we get to debt, and I guess
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: they go together. Sure, a lot of people are saying
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: that the accumulation of some of these tarifts are going
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: to weigh this big beautiful bill.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You know that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: They say it's going to accumulate three and a half
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: trillion dollars in debt by the time you know it's done.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: But if we start collecting and keep collecting, these tariffs
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: going to add up and offset that, what do you
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: what do you say to that?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Look, I will definitely say this. The debt levels that
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: we have right now have been a bipartisan effort, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I do think we have to hold the Trump administration responsible.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: We're not going to know the results of the Big
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Beautiful Bill until much later, so we'll see what those
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: results are. You know, I appreciate that you say that
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: there's a relationship between tariffs and debt, there certainly is.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And you know the fact that the US dollars reserve
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: currency means that it has to be in wide supply
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: because people buy our bonds and hold our debt, and
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: that also means that we spend. And so Congress takes
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: that bond money and spends it, allocates it in the
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: ways that they see fit, whatever that may be. But
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: there's a direct correlation between a trade deficit in the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Fed budget deficit.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, but over the course of time there if they
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: project that each month, I mean each month you get
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: a figure of what we supposedly collected in tariff revenue,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: and you applied that to this projected possible debt. I mean,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: do you think it's even going to come close to
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: offset three trillion dollars.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: The tariffs? Yeah, the tariff ree Yeah, no, I don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: leave at all. You know, the Trump administration's debt has
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: gone up about a half million and by the way,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that's not on their watch yet. That's still the Biden
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: administration's of federal budget. But it has gone up by
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: half a trillion dollars. The tariff revenue that's been generated
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: has been about one hundred billion dollars, which is significant.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: But and you know, this is where we can transition
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: to tariffs. I do not believe regardless of what anybody
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: in the Trump administration says, it's mostly the president that
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: will say this, that we're going to make a lot
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: of revenue. I don't think that's their main aim. You know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: they make some fine, but I think their aim is
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: very different than generating tariff revenue.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so I agree.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: But a lot of people now are saying that there
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: will be a significant amount of revenue gained by the tariffs.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: And you know, I do the math, like I'm sure
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: you do the math, and obviously it doesn't come out
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: to be the same.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: It's always going to fall short.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: But in the end of let's say five years, you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: maybe can he get back a trillion.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Of that or was that too much to ask in tariffs?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: That's that number is about right about it. It would
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: be a little over the the the numbers that I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: find most trustworthy are about two point five trillion dollars
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: in the next ten years. Don't think the tariffs are
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: going to be in place that long. I think the
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: motive by the Trump administration is not economically, but political,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: and that's where I think they're going to make a
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: significant inroad to the global order. Less so the tariff
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: revenue that's being generated right now, I think that will
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: be relatively short lived.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: I'll explain that to everybody because I know you've talked
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: about that it'd being more political than economics.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so let me just say mister Trump's Chief
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Economic Advisor, chair of the Economic Council for the Trump administration,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: and Stephen Moran. And Stephen Moran wrote in November before
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: the Trump they had obviously won the election, but Moran
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: had not been named to the administration yet, but he
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: wrote a article on a user's Guide to Restructuring Global
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Trade I believe is the title of it, and lays
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: out quite specifically what the plan is, you know, what
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: the plan would be, what the results would be, very
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: very well argued and thought out, with you know, possibilities
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: of things not going quite the way that the current
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: administration would or the income administration at that time would
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: have expected. You know, So in my opinion, quite serious.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: And what Stephen Moran says in that is that the
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: main aim is to negotiate politically a restructuring of trade relations.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: And you know, really what it comes down to, Lee
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: is that mister Trump, and I'm talking about now the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: first administration, mister Trum. You know, he said all kinds
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: of very provocative things like the language to use China's
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: China is raping us, and stuff like this. But the
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: better way to put it, which I think, is what
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: he you know, but let me say Trump is masterful
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: with his rhetoric to get the ideas across to the
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: general public of the urgency of something, whether or not
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: as very accurate or not. You know, the metaphor of
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: you know, China is raping us or taking advantage of
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: us is they don't like the referee, and the referee
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: is a World trade organization. That's what That's what the
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Trump administration wants to he changed. And you know, once
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: these institutions get in place, they're very very difficult to change.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: So that's ultimately I think what they're after, and they
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: want they want global participation in restructuring the global order,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: and without that participation, it's going to be very very
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: difficult and quite unpredictable. I think they're using the tariffs
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: as a way to nudge the rest of the world
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: in to the negotiating table.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Hans Desbain, economic lecturer at UMass amherst Our guest chatting
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: a little bit about the economy and tariffs and basically
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: debt and the big beautiful bill and some of the
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: countries Hans have pretty much made a deal already.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Some are pushing back.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: But it seems like, you know, he's in some kind
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: of negotiation with a country just about every single day.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, and I know you don't think
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: this is going to last unless, of course, a protege
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: is next, let's say, vance and he follows in the footsteps,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: But you know, who knows if that's going to happen
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: and how that would sort of work itself out. But
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: do you think more countries are gonna sort of bend
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: than me and and and take some kind of deal
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: that that Trump sends their way.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I think there's been very few countries that have come
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: to the negotiating table one on one with the United States.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: You can count them on on on one hand. I
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: don't Again, I don't know that that's really the the intention. Uh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the the intention is really to bring So look, I
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: think you know, I I I think that you know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: with without getting into you know, too much of the
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: knitted gritty that you know. The intention is to rebalance
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: the currency evaluation of the US dollar, the exchange rates,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: but also to negotiate cooperation with the rest of the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: world towards re ordering the trade supplies. Uh uh uh
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: And I meant to a supply chains, pardon me, supply chains.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And I think most urgently for Trump is to read
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: direct the trade patterns away from China. And I think
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: this is why he went after our two biggest trade
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: partners at Canada and Mexico at the initiation of these tariffs. Right,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: they're the ones that had tariffs threatened to be imposed
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: on them and quite stiff, to reduce what they're buying
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: from China and restructure their trade back towards the US
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: and the West and the G seven because there's a
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: distrust in the politics of the Chinese within the Trump administration.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: His name is Hans des Banyon.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Han.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: You can stick around for one more because I got
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: a couple more questions to throw at you.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Is that all right?
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Excellent?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool, We'll come right back in just a second.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: We got Hans dest pain and as always, if you
• 32:52
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• 32:54
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• 33:04
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  Speaker 4: We've got a few more minutes with the economic lecturer
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  Speaker 4: over at UMass Amherst. Good friend of mine and we
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  Speaker 4: always chat and sometimes debate about some of the economic
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  Speaker 4: issues of the country and the world.
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  Speaker 1: And he's always a great guest. Hans des Spain. So Hans,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because we're gonna run out of time. We
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  Speaker 4: But let me ask you about just debt, and so
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  Speaker 4: you can tell me the impact of debt. But in
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  Speaker 4: a sense where you know, people say, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Countries, were okay, I hate that comparison.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Because you know, if we didn't spend solar recklessly, we'd
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: look at other countries and we'd be, you know, amazing
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  Speaker 4: instead of just okay compared to them.
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  Speaker 1: But in your mind you you probably aren't.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: As bothered by debt as me. But can you break
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: break down what we were watching right now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, when we first met, I think this was one
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: of the very first issues that we discussed and debated. Uh,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: you read a paper and critiqued my thoughts on on debt.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I think the debt level, Dan, I'm you know, I
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: don't remember precisely, but you know this goes back two
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: three years so we could look it up, was about
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: eighty percent of GDP public debt to GDP. That's now
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: a one hundred and twenty three percent of GDP. So
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I was not worried at all at eighty percent for
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: various reasons. I'll be happy to explain to anybody in
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: an email request, but I won't bother going into that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Once you get above one hundred percent debt to GDP,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: it has negative consequences on growth rates. To what degree
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: is debatable, but that is the primary concern. The other
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: issuely is that the interest on the debt alone, which
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: you know, whether this is good or bad depends on
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: what position you are in the economy is a trillion
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: dollars per year. One trillion dollars per year. Now, there
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: are not more than ten eleven countries in the world
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: that have a trillion dollar economy, and we're paying a
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: trillion dollars in interest payment. Now, whether that's good or bad,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure, because that trillion dollars in interest payment
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: is somebody else's revenue and most of most of that
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: revenue source are Americans. Americans are the biggest holders of debt,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Japan being the largest foreign holder of debt, so they
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: make an interest on it, you know, So that's a concern.
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  Speaker 3: But what I would emphasize, and Lee, You've heard this
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: a thousand times from me, but I'll share it with
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: mister Root's audience, which is, if you're concerned with public debt,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: take a look at private debt. Because public debt is
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty three percent of GDP. Private debt
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: is one hundred and fifty eight. Just I spoke. That
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: peaked at one hundred and fifty eight in twenty twenty.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: It's now down to one hundred and forty two percent
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: of GDP one hundred and forty two percent, So that's
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: household and business debt, so that's also a drag on
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: the economy. So the government, investors, consumers are all in
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: massive debt, and that should concern us all for sure.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I'm more concerned with the private debt and public debt,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: but they're now at levels that we should all be concerned.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: And that's the I mean, we have record breaking credit
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: card debt right now, correct, that's never been this correct.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hit a trillion dollars for the first time
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: in US history. And what's also amazing about that, thank
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: you for bringing that uply, is in twenty eighteen, the
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: average credit card interest rate was approximately twelve percent. It's
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: now double it's twenty four percent. So not only are
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: we more in debt than ever, the straits are at
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: you know, not all time record highst but they're at
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: well when you go back in credit card debt, it
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: probably is an all time record high because credit card
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: debt is a you know, nineteen fifty sort of phenomenon,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: so that probably is pretty dark close to record high levels.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe in the nineteen eighties, credit card debt was hired.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know that off the top of my head.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: But twenty four percent interest rates for more, you know,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: for my wife and I or your wife and you.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: That's a dinner conversation. Can you believe these interest rates?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: But for I would say fifty percent of the Americans,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: it's prohibitive on what they can put on their table.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I would agree with that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: And you know, once you get into that, stuck to
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: that vortex, and you just can't. You're ten thousand dollars
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: in credit card debt and you're making fifty thousand dollars a.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Year, You're never paying that back. I mean, it's just
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: not happening, you know what I mean?
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: The interest on that is killing people, you know, week
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: to week, month to month. Hans Desban is his name.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: It's always one of our favorite guests. Have you written
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: anything we need to know about recently?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Not recent? Landman arrears on a couple of articles, but no,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I don't have anything that's come out since.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: And how about the basketball coaching? Are you winning and losing?
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Where are we at that? We only got like thirty seconds?
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: But I mean I got victories, I got trophies.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: What do you got? I see you got books, but
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I don't see any trophies behind you.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: My daughter's team, we came home with nothing. We had
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: a very digital soccer in the basketball season. My son
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: is going to be going to Pittsburgh for a basketball
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: tournament in August that I'm coaching the teams. So I'm
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: very excited about that. We're hoping to bring home a
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: metal league. All right, I'll keep you informed. I'm counting
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: on you, my friend. I'm counting on you. Employed that
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Dean Smith four corners. Remember that the four corners from
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Dean Smith.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Break that out?
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: All right, brother, I gotta go.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Thanks for spending a half hour with us. Hans Destbane,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: UMass Amherst. We got to take a break.
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