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Boss of the Family with Chelsea's Sisters, Shoshanna & Simone · Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler

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Speaker 1: Hi Catherine, Oh, Hi Chelsea, Hi everybody. Welcome to a
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Speaker 1: new episode of Dear Chelsea. I have been getting a
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Speaker 1: lot of sister advice. I got a lot of sister
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Speaker 1: action in my life, a lot of sisters in my life,
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Speaker 1: a lot of sisters asking for advice, and a lot
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Speaker 1: of sisters come to see me perform. So I thought
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Speaker 1: it would be kind of fun to have my sisters
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Speaker 1: on to dull, loud advice because my older sister Simone
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Speaker 1: is who I go to for all my advice, Shoshanna.
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Speaker 1: I also Shanna is more of like a love like
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Speaker 1: a love seat, like you go to her for love
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Speaker 1: and and warm stuggle ship. Yeah, she's a lot like
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Speaker 1: my mom. And then my sister Simone is less emotional
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Speaker 1: and more practical. And so I have both sides of
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Speaker 1: the coin and my sister's Yes, I feel very, very lucky.
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Speaker 1: Notice that I'm not mentioning how lucky I feel about
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Speaker 1: my brother's um. But I do have a really sweet
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Speaker 1: brother named Roy. He is so sweet. He's just a
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Speaker 1: little He's like a just a love muffin. Also, but
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Speaker 1: I'm not asking him for advice either. I'm so excited
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Speaker 1: that they're joining us I know it's a very exciting.
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Speaker 1: So I want to give a warm welcome to both
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Speaker 1: of my sisters, Simone and Shoshanna. Look they're both here
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Speaker 1: at the same time, so serendipitous or an appointment. Hello, Hello, Hello, Simone,
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Speaker 1: you look so profession I love it. I am a professional,
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Speaker 1: so I know, I know, I know all the fucking
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Speaker 1: about it. Catherine, nice to meet you. I likewise, I'm
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Speaker 1: so excited for today, shawna beginning. See you but not
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Speaker 1: hear you yet. This is what it's like to get
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Speaker 1: a phone call from her. Hi, girls, do we not
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Speaker 1: get to me? Brad Brat? Come say hi, Brad. Bring
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Speaker 1: the dogs. They got a brother and sister combo platter,
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Speaker 1: just like Burton Bernice pug puppies. Oh my god. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and we have an older pug whose seven nice. They're
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Speaker 1: the two dogs. I'd say, Hi, look at that they're
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Speaker 1: making out with each other. That's sweet when they kiss
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Speaker 1: each other like that. Okay, So to continue our family story,
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Speaker 1: so Simone had her surgery. Then I went so Shanna
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Speaker 1: got the rough of it because someone was in bad
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Speaker 1: shape for the first week. And then when I came
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Speaker 1: on the scene, we turned a corner and I forced
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Speaker 1: her into a physical therapy regimen, a walking exercise regimen
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Speaker 1: post spinal book camp is what I like to call it.
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Speaker 1: And then Shoshanna was like, Chelsea, don't give her alcohol.
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Speaker 1: You know, you can't give her alcohol. She's recovering, she's
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Speaker 1: on oxycotton. And I was like, first of all, oxy
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Speaker 1: cotton was made to be paired with alcohol, so like, obviously,
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Speaker 1: if you know anything about a medical procedure or recovery,
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Speaker 1: you want to make it as painless as possible. That
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Speaker 1: first Margarita was delicious, yes, exactly, and then she's like,
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Speaker 1: and definitely don't give her edibles. And of course, you know,
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Speaker 1: three days in, I'm like, this is gonna make you
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Speaker 1: relax and feel better. So we had two different experiences.
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Speaker 1: But on the last day of our trip, Simone had
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Speaker 1: a goal to walk across the Golden Gate Bridge. Right
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Speaker 1: it's at the bridge. We walked across Money, which was
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Speaker 1: a lot less pleasant than we thought it was going
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Speaker 1: to be because you're basically on a bridge that feels
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Speaker 1: like it's swaying back and forth while hundreds of cars
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Speaker 1: are zooming past. It's like this, and you can't talk
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Speaker 1: because you can't hear anything. So it's basically was like
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Speaker 1: a march and we got to one side. I was like,
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Speaker 1: let's call an uber. She's like, let's just walk back.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, but why it's so unpleasant. All I saw
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Speaker 1: that you were there was posts of margarite is and luncheons,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, what happened? I mean, what did
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Speaker 1: I mean? You didn't get the raw end of the field.
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Speaker 1: Shanna thought they were going to board a board together.
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Speaker 1: She's like, when are we gonna go paddle boarding? Anyway,
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Speaker 1: I left Simone in great Stead. So Shoshanna is technically
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Speaker 1: a registered nurse, but I'm a medical practitioner, and I
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Speaker 1: would like to say that even though everyone advises me
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Speaker 1: against advising others of medicine, I'm going to continue to
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Speaker 1: do it because I feel like I know what I'm doing,
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Speaker 1: and I can tell by Simone's progress while I was
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Speaker 1: there that I do know what I'm doing. You were
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Speaker 1: on CNN yesterday for that? Did you see that? No?
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Speaker 1: For what? I don't watch CNN anymore. Oh, for my ozempic.
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Speaker 1: People are like, Chelsea Handler didn't know she was on ozempic.
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Speaker 1: I was like, first of all, do you think I
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Speaker 1: would admit that I don't know the difference between the
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Speaker 1: sun and the moon, but then lie about a zempic.
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I tell the truth about everything, and
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Speaker 1: it's called sema glue tide. So I did not know
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Speaker 1: I was on a zempic until I was on a
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Speaker 1: zempic anyway. Okay, so girls, let's talk about both of you.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, Katherine, you had something right, I do. I
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Speaker 1: actually have an email from one of our listeners, and
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get your perspective on it. Ladies. A
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Speaker 1: very special flight attendant emailed us and she said, Dear Chelsea,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you'll ever read this, but I
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Speaker 1: watched your special last night with a fond memory of
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Speaker 1: having you on board my flight in first class when
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Speaker 1: I was a person on a flight we were taxing
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Speaker 1: out when the in parents, these white businessman gentleman next
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Speaker 1: to you rang his call button and decided to tell
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Speaker 1: me you hadn't turned off your phone. You looked at
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Speaker 1: him and said, are you fucking kidding me? Are we
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Speaker 1: in high school? You're telling on me? I was laughing
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Speaker 1: so hard I almost paid myself. Your mention of respect
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Speaker 1: for flight attendants was touching, as was the mention of
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Speaker 1: your fear of pregnancy in the forties. I am one
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Speaker 1: of those women who chose to never have children. And yes, drunk,
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Speaker 1: I thought you couldn't get pregnant in your forties and did,
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Speaker 1: and yes, thank God had access to abortion. So thank
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Speaker 1: you for mentioning it, and thank you for one of
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Speaker 1: my most memorable flight stories. So what I would love
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Speaker 1: perspective on is has she always been this way? Just
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Speaker 1: able to say stuff like this to like strangers who
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Speaker 1: were trying to read her on the plane. Yes, that's
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Speaker 1: a really quick, easy answer. Yes, And that's the most
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Speaker 1: common question we get about Chelsea is what she always
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Speaker 1: like this? Yes, since she was probably three years old.
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Speaker 1: And are you both like that as well or less direct?
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Speaker 1: We'll say no. Now we have different styles. I'm kind
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Speaker 1: of a pleaser. I don't like to make waves and
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Speaker 1: those confrontational type things. I mean, I will get annoyed,
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Speaker 1: but it takes a little bit more for me to
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Speaker 1: get annoyed. Like I had someone on the plane once who,
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Speaker 1: during an eight hour flight to France, got up six
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Speaker 1: times to bee and the fifth time I just looked
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Speaker 1: over and said, really, well, we both have the same language,
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Speaker 1: because really was the first thing I said to that
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Speaker 1: guy too. I'm reasonable up to a point and then
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Speaker 1: I lose it. So yeah, I feel kind of the
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Speaker 1: same way. I mean, you know, it takes a lot
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Speaker 1: to get me going, but it it's something like that,
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Speaker 1: I would definitely have said something. Yeah. I love the
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Speaker 1: idea of an adult person telling on another adult person
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Speaker 1: to a flight attendant, like you can't settle this little
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Speaker 1: kerfuffle between two people. She's not turning off her phone.
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Speaker 1: It's so that's like her saying her seat tray isn't up,
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Speaker 1: which I still don't understand why those have to be
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Speaker 1: up when we take off, like they're gonna fly off
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Speaker 1: into our eyes. I don't understand why we can't be reclined.
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Speaker 1: And actually, with all of my newer relationships with flight
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Speaker 1: attendants and the good will that I've instilled with them
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Speaker 1: for me, I feel like I should be able to
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Speaker 1: ask one of them. I don't understand why we can't
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Speaker 1: be reclining when we take off. When I take a
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Speaker 1: sleeping pill and then get on a plane, I want
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Speaker 1: to go straight to sleep. I don't want to take
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Speaker 1: off and go to sleep. There must be a reason
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is and get those answers
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Speaker 1: for you, Chelsea. Yeah, well there's yeah. And also the
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Speaker 1: like turned your phone on airplane mode. I don't believe
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Speaker 1: that's true either, that you have to do that. I
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Speaker 1: do it. Do you do it when you guys go
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Speaker 1: on planes put your phones on airplane mode to do it?
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Speaker 1: But the last couple of years I hit or miss,
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Speaker 1: I just forget and they don't get. Somewhether you do it,
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Speaker 1: somewhether I do it. That's above our pay grade. Yeah. Sorry, Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: thanks for all your help you guys. That's the end
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Speaker 1: of the episode. Thank you for coming her. Okay, So
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Speaker 1: let's talk about Catherine. I want to talk about sisters
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Speaker 1: and the dynamic between sisters. So Simone's oldest sh Shauna
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Speaker 1: is the middle and I'm the youngest. Even though I'm
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Speaker 1: the loudest and the most obnoxious and the most opinionated,
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Speaker 1: I'm the baby. But I also act like I run
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Speaker 1: the family, right, guys, act like the boss of the family. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I will defer to other people's opinions if I
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Speaker 1: find them a value, so kind of you. I'll defer
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Speaker 1: to Simone on a lot of things because I know
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Speaker 1: Simone smarter than I am. So when I asked her
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Speaker 1: a question about how to frame something in a more
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Speaker 1: reasonable way, or how to tell somebody that they're fucking
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Speaker 1: annoying without hurting their feelings, Simone is the person to
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Speaker 1: go to. And Shoshanna has recently blossomed and burst into
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Speaker 1: her own stage of womanhood right with her personal business.
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Speaker 1: When she's at ear Piercer, a remote ear piercer, and
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Speaker 1: she's a registered nurse so you're getting a safe ear
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Speaker 1: piercing when you you can follow her on Instagram at
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Speaker 1: Piercing's I Shoshanna. Shanna started her own business how long
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Speaker 1: ago Shauna two years, one year, about a year ago, okay,
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Speaker 1: and it's thriving doing it about four years. So yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's a mobile concierge piercing service to become right to
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Speaker 1: your home and make it a safe, fun experience. Everyone
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Speaker 1: gets a certificate of bravery for pictures and it's just
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Speaker 1: a really happy, fun way to do it that's comfortable
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Speaker 1: and relaxed in your own home. And there's a huge
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Speaker 1: market of little babies and little girls that are getting
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Speaker 1: their ears pierce. I had no idea that so many
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Speaker 1: people do this. Oh my gosh, yes, every little girl
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Speaker 1: in Jersey. Yeah, and everybody I tell, they tell five
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Speaker 1: or six friends. Do you do like birthday parties and stuff?
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Speaker 1: I do? Sometimes I'm the actual president and the kid
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Speaker 1: doesn't even know I'm coming. But she's been begging to
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Speaker 1: get her ears pierce for months. And I walked on
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Speaker 1: the door and they say, do you know who this is?
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Speaker 1: She's gonna pierce your ears. And then I popped out
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Speaker 1: of the cake topless. All all everyone in our family
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Speaker 1: goes topless. It's not just me, it's hereditary. My point
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Speaker 1: of that story, Shauna, was you were working in the
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Speaker 1: medical industry, not medical industry with healthcare, proper healthcare. You
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Speaker 1: were a nurse. My sister was a nurse and then
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Speaker 1: she kind of got tired of that, and I guess
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Speaker 1: the hours and the sense of responsibility. So you started
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Speaker 1: your own business, and I think it's given you a
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Speaker 1: really big boon, right, like a boost of self confidence
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Speaker 1: of self esteem. Tell us about that, Well, in a
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Speaker 1: million years, I never thought I would own my own business,
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Speaker 1: so it's been so much fun. I kind of fell
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Speaker 1: into it because I started out with another company and
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Speaker 1: then they ended up stopping the home piercings, and there
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Speaker 1: was such a huge demand, so Shoshana continued to moonlight
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Speaker 1: that I thought, you know, how can I keep doing this,
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Speaker 1: you know, legitimately, And so I formed my own company.
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Speaker 1: And I love it. It's so rewarding and fun. Everybody
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Speaker 1: I need is so nice and they're so happy. It's
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Speaker 1: such a happy occasion. Everything's good about it, and I
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Speaker 1: love it. It's so cute because you're so much more
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Speaker 1: social now, Like I never really thought of you as
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Speaker 1: being super social, but you're out there, like meeting new
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Speaker 1: people all the time, and they adore you. It's really cute. Yeah. No,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I ever had a problem
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Speaker 1: being social or anything. I'm like more shy and quiet
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Speaker 1: than you guys are. But I've always give been good
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Speaker 1: with patients and patient care in the hospital and all that,
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Speaker 1: so it's just transferring it to the home. So for me,
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Speaker 1: it's been easy, but I love it. Well. I think
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Speaker 1: that Pivot is really great for our listeners to hear
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Speaker 1: because I have a ton of people who call in
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Speaker 1: or right in and they're like, well, this is what
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Speaker 1: I learned to do, this is what my career has
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Speaker 1: been for the last twenty years. I can't really get
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Speaker 1: out of it, especially when it's something really like you
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Speaker 1: had to study for a long time for like healthcare, etcetera.
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Speaker 1: And you pivoted into something where your background is super relevant.
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Speaker 1: But it's definitely outside the box, and you know, you
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Speaker 1: got creative with it, and look at you now. And
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Speaker 1: both of them have had big life moves. Simone moved
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Speaker 1: to San Francisco, like how many years ago? Money, It's
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Speaker 1: been like six and a half years. I guess, yeah,
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Speaker 1: from New Jersey. Her kids were getting older, and but
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Speaker 1: she still had one kid in high school, my niece Sunny.
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Speaker 1: So she was deliberating whether or not to move out west,
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Speaker 1: which was a huge culture shift really, I mean as
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Speaker 1: far as a culture shift as you can get in
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Speaker 1: like America. I guess Mississippi would be a bigger culture shift.
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Speaker 1: But you know, and you kind of did change not careers,
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Speaker 1: but in a in a way, you did you change
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Speaker 1: what you were doing. Yeah. No, I mean I think
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Speaker 1: in my career I've done a lot. I've had a
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Speaker 1: lot of different jobs or different positions, but so it
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Speaker 1: has been in healthcare law, and so I think as
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Speaker 1: my kids were getting Holder, and I was divorced and
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Speaker 1: I was living in Suberby, and I was kind of
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Speaker 1: just bored with living there and that whole routine of
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Speaker 1: taking kids to soccer and baseball, and I didn't really
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Speaker 1: find my people there where I was, And then I thought,
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Speaker 1: you know, I really do need to change. So when
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Speaker 1: I found this job in California, I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I could. I could totally live in San Francisco. Why
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Speaker 1: couldn't I. The only big stumbling block was my daughter,
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Speaker 1: who was in high school and had to move her
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Speaker 1: whole life here, But even for her, for her it
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Speaker 1: was probably a huge benefit as well, so it worked out.
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Speaker 1: I don't know for both of us. It's change the venue.
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Speaker 1: I think is that was good. I feel like those
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Speaker 1: big changes are always beneficial to everybody. Because you were
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Speaker 1: kind of like, this, isn't that a far move? I
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Speaker 1: remember you talking about it, and it's like, no, you
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Speaker 1: gotta go for it. Switch things up in a big way.
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Speaker 1: And you've never looked back and regretted that you ever
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Speaker 1: moved across the country exactly, And Shoshana, even when you
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Speaker 1: were starting your business, you were like, oh, I gotta
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Speaker 1: go register as like an LLC or whatever it was,
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Speaker 1: or an s corp or whatever you were talking about,
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Speaker 1: and you're like, it's just such a pain in the ass,
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Speaker 1: and then you did it, and look and then you
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Speaker 1: have never looked back. Right, Like, all the little reasons
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Speaker 1: that we always have for not doing something, we don't
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Speaker 1: ever even end up remembering those reasons. So, like when
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Speaker 1: you're making a big decision or a life move and
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Speaker 1: you're making it's almost like you're making excuses for why
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Speaker 1: it can't be done. And when you overcome hurdles, which
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Speaker 1: you kind of need to do to take a risk
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Speaker 1: in life, you have to overcome these hurdles otherwise it's
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Speaker 1: not a risk. You really rarely ever look back and
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Speaker 1: be like, oh God, I wish I hadn't done that,
13:56
Speaker 1: you know, when you're taking leap of faith. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm three years old and it's the best thing I've
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Speaker 1: ever done, and I'm happier now than I've ever been
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Speaker 1: doing anything professionally. I couldn't be happier. So I'm so
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Speaker 1: glad that I did found out what I had to do,
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Speaker 1: and it was a pain in the ask and it
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Speaker 1: took a while, but now it's done. I also like
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Speaker 1: the fact that when you do something like that, you
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Speaker 1: know you have two kids that see that change in you,
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Speaker 1: and so you're modeling this behavior of doing something unique
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Speaker 1: and different and and risky. So they see that and
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Speaker 1: they benefit from that in their own lives and their
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Speaker 1: own decision making too. Yeah, I totally agree with that.
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Speaker 1: They definitely do. I know Burton Bernice have benefited from
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Speaker 1: all of the challenges and risks I put myself in
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Speaker 1: front of. The only thing is Russell, my fourteen year
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Speaker 1: old teenage son tells his friends when they ask what
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Speaker 1: his mother does, they say, she stabbed babies for a living.
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Speaker 1: So that's a little yeah, but those are babies whose
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Speaker 1: parents are choosing for them to be stabbed, Like that's
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Speaker 1: an unfair assessment. I always used to look at like
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Speaker 1: babies getting their ear pierce as hard, So now I
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Speaker 1: think it's adorable. It looks so cute, I know, and
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Speaker 1: and plus it's over in a second, right, It's not
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Speaker 1: like it goes on. I said to Sean, I go,
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Speaker 1: what happens when you do the one ear and then
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Speaker 1: they know what's going on? How do you do the
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Speaker 1: second ear? She's like, they forget right away quickly. You're
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Speaker 1: smiling and happy. Two minutes. It's great and they never
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Speaker 1: remember it, so everybody's happy. The parents are happy. Do
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Speaker 1: you only do ears? I do only do ears. You
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Speaker 1: know a few months ago, Chelsea put up on Instagram
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Speaker 1: that I would pierce pretty much anything on your body,
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Speaker 1: you know, anything, anything, And I got all these private
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Speaker 1: messages if I could come pierce their private parts, and
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Speaker 1: they're this and that, and I had to you know,
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Speaker 1: I had to let them down gently that right now,
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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's just an ear business. So it was
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Speaker 1: an area for expansion down the road. Don't roll it out. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'll think about that. Just get some extra alcohol swabs
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Speaker 1: and you'll be all set. Maybe I'll practice nipple piercing
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Speaker 1: on my husband, Mike. I'm sure he would be thrilled.
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Speaker 1: Nipple piercing can't be that bad. Oh yeah, copy that? Okay,
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Speaker 1: got it? Got it. Shshana is more virginal than I am.
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Speaker 1: If you haven't picked up on that. Also, where's our
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Speaker 1: where's Roy? Shoshanna? What's roy status? These days? Our brother
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Speaker 1: Roy was living with Shoshanna. He came out to visit
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Speaker 1: with Simone when we were we were tending to her back.
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Speaker 1: That's right, there was a surprise visit. He just showed
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Speaker 1: up at my doorstep. That was that was a really
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Speaker 1: nice surprise. Yeah, And then he hung out with us
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Speaker 1: all week. And then what we would do is each
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Speaker 1: of us had to take Simone for well. We took
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Speaker 1: her for like her geriatric walk basically every day because
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Speaker 1: she wasn't very mobile. So we would take her out
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Speaker 1: for like thirty minutes or as much as she could handle,
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Speaker 1: and then we get back and then Roy would go
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Speaker 1: for a real walk, and then he'd come back and
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Speaker 1: I'd go for a real walk. I was smoking a
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Speaker 1: lot of pot during this time because I had nothing
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Speaker 1: going on except to care for Simone, and that I
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Speaker 1: could barely handle. So one day and our only responsibility
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Speaker 1: was not to leave Simone alone like that was it
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Speaker 1: just don't leave her alone because in case she got
16:56
Speaker 1: herself into a jam, she wouldn't be able to get
16:59
Speaker 1: out of it because he had stitches up and down
17:01
Speaker 1: her back. So one day Simone was like, oh, I
17:03
Speaker 1: have a tesla appointment at two, that's all we have today.
17:05
Speaker 1: After we went for a walk, I said sure, okay.
17:07
Speaker 1: So Roy went for a walk, I smoke a joint,
17:10
Speaker 1: I go for a walk. I go for a longer
17:11
Speaker 1: walk than expected because I'm stoned. And I get back
17:14
Speaker 1: and Simone's not there, and I was like, Roy, what
17:17
Speaker 1: the fuck? Where's Simone? And he's like, oh, she went
17:20
Speaker 1: to a Tesla appointment. I was like, you let her
17:23
Speaker 1: drive herself and he goes, yeah, you weren't back and
17:27
Speaker 1: she didn't want to teach me how to use the Tesla.
17:28
Speaker 1: Her tesla's for some reason extra annoying, and I was like,
17:34
Speaker 1: the whole reason we're here is to never leave her alone.
17:37
Speaker 1: He's like, you're the one who missed the appointment, and
17:39
Speaker 1: I said, I know, Roy, but I thought I could
17:41
Speaker 1: rely on you. So then I was like, okay, well
17:44
Speaker 1: I have to go to her find she's at the
17:46
Speaker 1: a Tesla dealership. And I was like, we have to
17:47
Speaker 1: call an uber, Roy, call an uber and he's like
17:49
Speaker 1: I don't know how to call an uber. I don't
17:52
Speaker 1: know how to call a newper either. And then and
17:56
Speaker 1: these are the people that are in charge of me,
17:58
Speaker 1: are protect me, and like can't. I was like screaming
18:02
Speaker 1: at him in the kitchen. I go, why don't you
18:03
Speaker 1: have Uber? That doesn't even make any sense. He's like
18:06
Speaker 1: why would I need Uber And I'm like, well, I
18:08
Speaker 1: don't eat Uber, and so anyway, I had Uber Eats
18:11
Speaker 1: on my phone and I was like, I wonder if
18:12
Speaker 1: they can pick me up in the middle of a
18:13
Speaker 1: food delivery and take me to my sister. And then
18:18
Speaker 1: finally I had Uber on my phone. I just had
18:20
Speaker 1: to find it and I called an Uber. It was
18:22
Speaker 1: a huge success. I got there as Simone was just
18:25
Speaker 1: in the waiting room, just with a tiny bit of attitude,
18:28
Speaker 1: not too much, and she's like, I told you at
18:30
Speaker 1: an appointment at two. I was like, this is fucking
18:33
Speaker 1: roy She stayed another week or two. I know it
18:38
Speaker 1: would have been more fun if we were all together. Sean,
18:40
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you got the brunt of it. I mean,
18:42
Speaker 1: really came in hot. He was cooking every day, I
18:44
Speaker 1: mean and me made chicken soup for twenty six people
18:46
Speaker 1: even though there's only three of us. So and then
18:48
Speaker 1: one night he made turkey meatballs for twenty six people
18:51
Speaker 1: even though there were three of us. I still have
18:53
Speaker 1: those meet balls in the freezer. By the way, It's like, boy,
18:57
Speaker 1: who are you serving here? He has no can't you
19:00
Speaker 1: can only cook for like fifty people at a time.
19:02
Speaker 1: He can't cook for two or three people at the time. Yeah,
19:04
Speaker 1: he can't cook individually. Yeah it's individually or for fifty people.
19:08
Speaker 1: It's nothing in between exactly. But anyway, they nursed me
19:12
Speaker 1: back to health. How are you feeling money, I'm good.
19:15
Speaker 1: I mean this lovely deluxe chair that you kindly bought me,
19:18
Speaker 1: and I'd say I'm about eighty five percent there. I
19:22
Speaker 1: think the last ten or fifteen percent will take another
19:25
Speaker 1: six months. There's certain twisting right and left sending that
19:30
Speaker 1: I can't really do. But I got a physical therapy
19:32
Speaker 1: once or twice a week, and they are great. I'd
19:35
Speaker 1: like to go there every day, frankly, but apparently that's
19:38
Speaker 1: not really necessary. I just like having a trainer. I
19:42
Speaker 1: like someone who tells me what to do and I
19:43
Speaker 1: do it. It feels like you should go more than
19:45
Speaker 1: once a week. Now They're like, I've progressed so much
19:48
Speaker 1: that I only need to I just need to do
19:51
Speaker 1: what they tell me seven days a week. And also,
19:54
Speaker 1: when I was out there with someone, I said, listen,
19:56
Speaker 1: this is a make or break moment in your life.
19:58
Speaker 1: This could be the end or this could be a
20:01
Speaker 1: new beginning. And she looked at me. She goes, just
20:04
Speaker 1: shut up. Okay, I have another peak left in me.
20:07
Speaker 1: This is not the end. And I was like, yeah,
20:10
Speaker 1: but you can go for it in this moment and
20:12
Speaker 1: get really healthy and strong, or some people in their
20:15
Speaker 1: mid fifties that get a procedure like this just slide
20:18
Speaker 1: straight downhill to happen to you. No, no, I've got
20:27
Speaker 1: many good years left. So this was just a little hiccup. Okay,
20:30
Speaker 1: good to know. Good. You know. By the way, to
20:32
Speaker 1: all of our straight male listeners, Simone is available. I'm available. Yeah, hey, okay,
20:39
Speaker 1: so what do we have in store today? Catherine? Amazingly,
20:42
Speaker 1: I do have a straight male listener who has written
20:44
Speaker 1: in is it for Simone? Oh my god, this would
20:47
Speaker 1: be amazing. I don't know, but he has married somebody.
20:51
Speaker 1: Sounds like an eager beever. Listen. I have some sister questions.
20:58
Speaker 1: I have some dating questions and all kinds of stuff.
21:01
Speaker 1: Let's do sisters question. All right, well, let's go quick
21:04
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back. We
21:12
Speaker 1: are back. Well. This first question is from lovable Aunt.
21:18
Speaker 1: Growing up with my three years older sister was sort
21:22
Speaker 1: of a battle. She was always so headstrong, almost like
21:25
Speaker 1: a bully to everyone, especially me. She had this bad attitude,
21:29
Speaker 1: always looking for a fight, and she was spoiled rotten.
21:32
Speaker 1: When we were young, we weren't friends. She always pushed
21:35
Speaker 1: me around, teased me to the point where I would cry.
21:37
Speaker 1: She once said to a new friend that she didn't
21:39
Speaker 1: know me and that I was a neighbor who lived
21:41
Speaker 1: on another street. Fast forward to now, and we are
21:44
Speaker 1: the best of friends. Somewhere along the way she grew
21:47
Speaker 1: up and finally realized what's right and wrong and became normal.
21:51
Speaker 1: The issue is she has a four year old son
21:53
Speaker 1: who looks exactly like her, and I'm terrified to say,
21:57
Speaker 1: is exactly like she was when she was younger. My
22:00
Speaker 1: nephew is a bully in the making, just like she was.
22:03
Speaker 1: He's only four and he already has this bad attitude.
22:07
Speaker 1: I feel like it's giving me PTSD of some sort.
22:10
Speaker 1: I do love him, but I cannot tolerate him. It's
22:14
Speaker 1: hard to like him. Do I have to wait till
22:16
Speaker 1: he's in his twenties to be able to bond with him?
22:18
Speaker 1: He is just so awful? And No, I do not
22:22
Speaker 1: have kids on my own, nor do I ever want one.
22:24
Speaker 1: He is my birth control. Any advice lovable aunt with
22:28
Speaker 1: an unlikable nephew. Oh jeez, that's an interesting one. I
22:33
Speaker 1: haven't heard like that. When you started out, I was like, oh,
22:35
Speaker 1: this is Shoshana and Chelsea when they were little. Yeah,
22:39
Speaker 1: that's what I thought too, except I was the youngest
22:41
Speaker 1: and I was the bully, and this is what would
22:43
Speaker 1: have happened if you had children, right, which is why
22:46
Speaker 1: everyone in our family advised me over and over again.
22:49
Speaker 1: You guys say I don't listen, but obviously I did
22:51
Speaker 1: because I didn't have children, and all of you kept
22:53
Speaker 1: telling me definitely don't when you didn't need to say that.
22:57
Speaker 1: But okay, so go on, okay, so continue siga most simon. Now.
23:01
Speaker 1: So I think this is a tough one because I
23:03
Speaker 1: feel like commenting on someone's child is that you have
23:06
Speaker 1: to tread really lightly. It's a delicate area. If she's
23:09
Speaker 1: good friends with her sister now, but that's a great
23:11
Speaker 1: starting point. There's got to be an opportunity that when
23:14
Speaker 1: they're all together, for her to not necessarily criticize her
23:19
Speaker 1: her nephew, but when her sister corrects her nephew or
23:24
Speaker 1: parents her nephew. I wonder if there's an opportunity to
23:28
Speaker 1: have a broader discussion about his behavior, or you know,
23:32
Speaker 1: even saying things like, oh, how does he do it preschool?
23:34
Speaker 1: How's he doing with other kids? Like asking more objective
23:37
Speaker 1: questions about his behavior to see if she'll realize that
23:41
Speaker 1: this child is having some behavioral issues and is a
23:44
Speaker 1: bit of a bully. But I wouldn't do it very
23:47
Speaker 1: subjectively and really go in there and say your kid
23:51
Speaker 1: is a nightmare, like you need to fix him, because
23:53
Speaker 1: that's that's never goes well. Yeah, do you think that
23:56
Speaker 1: she's aware that her son is acting like she did
23:59
Speaker 1: when she was young or that's a question that you know,
24:01
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to know. It's interesting to talk about
24:04
Speaker 1: who's aware of their children and who Isn't you know
24:06
Speaker 1: what I mean, you're so blind when it's your own child.
24:10
Speaker 1: I just talked to a friend of mine who said
24:12
Speaker 1: it was a straight cup I was with recently that
24:15
Speaker 1: they both were working big jobs, both CEOs of different companies,
24:19
Speaker 1: and they realized that their kid was turning into a
24:21
Speaker 1: major brat. And she's like, I just realized that she
24:24
Speaker 1: was turning into that. She's like, so one of us
24:25
Speaker 1: had to stop working and we had to spend more
24:28
Speaker 1: time with her, and I was like, oh, oh, I've
24:30
Speaker 1: never heard anyone say that about their own kids. Yeah.
24:32
Speaker 1: I mean that takes a lot of self awareness to
24:34
Speaker 1: realize that. I think in some cases, like if the
24:36
Speaker 1: child is now emulating the parents, some people find that endearing.
24:40
Speaker 1: And it was just like me, as a kid, he's looking, oh,
24:43
Speaker 1: I've heard that so many times from so many mothers.
24:45
Speaker 1: She's like, she's just like me, Like, that's actually not
24:48
Speaker 1: appropriate behavior a child. So it's a difficult area. Again.
24:53
Speaker 1: I think siblings providing advice on their nieces and nephews
24:58
Speaker 1: is just a touchy area. I just think you have
24:59
Speaker 1: to I think it's worth bringing up, but I think
25:02
Speaker 1: you have to do it in a in a very
25:03
Speaker 1: sort of diplomatic way. Well maybe this woman could she
25:06
Speaker 1: start doing stand up and just out everybody that way.
25:10
Speaker 1: There you go. There's another option. That's option B. That's
25:15
Speaker 1: the straightest path to success. I think if the sisters
25:18
Speaker 1: have a close enough relationship, there is a way to
25:20
Speaker 1: open up that conversation gently. It depends how tight they
25:24
Speaker 1: are to be able to work that in slowly gently,
25:28
Speaker 1: But if you really do have that really tight close relationship,
25:30
Speaker 1: I think that you can find a space to talk
25:33
Speaker 1: about it in the right way without being really obnoxious
25:37
Speaker 1: about it. I also think, depending on the relationship that
25:40
Speaker 1: you have with your nephew and with your sister, if
25:42
Speaker 1: it's appropriate, where like she doesn't mind if you reprimand
25:45
Speaker 1: him or have some input on his behavior. I have
25:48
Speaker 1: a niece who was a Hellian growing up, and I
25:53
Speaker 1: was a person in her life who set like really
25:55
Speaker 1: firm boundaries, and she knew that, like I was the
25:58
Speaker 1: auntie that if I said no, the answer was no.
26:01
Speaker 1: If I said later, the answer was later, and that
26:04
Speaker 1: as I set those boundaries early on, that paid off
26:06
Speaker 1: in dividends as she got older. Yeah, Catherine, I think
26:09
Speaker 1: you definitely that's a good point about as the child
26:12
Speaker 1: grows up, you develop your own relationship with that child.
26:14
Speaker 1: I don't think she has to wait till he's eighteen
26:16
Speaker 1: years old, but it develops over time. And I know
26:19
Speaker 1: all of my kids benefit from the ants and novels.
26:22
Speaker 1: Starting school to might help correct some of this behavior,
26:25
Speaker 1: because a lot of times kids are bad in a
26:27
Speaker 1: way that like their peers are not going to put
26:29
Speaker 1: up with. So like, as he gets into kindergarten, first grade, whatever,
26:33
Speaker 1: some of this might start coming out in the wash.
26:35
Speaker 1: Hopefully that's true. I mean that wasn't the case for
26:37
Speaker 1: Chelsea when she was little. But you know, I got more.
26:40
Speaker 1: I was more confrontational. Once I met other people. I
26:43
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, there's a whole there's a whole sea
26:45
Speaker 1: of people I can disagree with. I remember getting thrown
26:49
Speaker 1: out of nursery school because I said something to the
26:51
Speaker 1: teacher that Dad had said to me about her. I
26:54
Speaker 1: said to her face, and then I got in troubled.
26:56
Speaker 1: She had Dad picked me up, and Dad's I give
26:58
Speaker 1: to go and apologize. I think she was trying to
27:01
Speaker 1: get me to take a nap and I hated that.
27:03
Speaker 1: Now I would love it, but back then I didn't
27:05
Speaker 1: want to be forced to lie on those stupid cots.
27:07
Speaker 1: I was like, first of all, there's accounting to be
27:09
Speaker 1: done for my family, Like I have to figure out
27:11
Speaker 1: where the money is coming from, or where is it
27:14
Speaker 1: where is it coming in? And my dad was like,
27:16
Speaker 1: you have to apologize. I'm like, you're the one who
27:18
Speaker 1: said it. It was either something about the way she
27:20
Speaker 1: dressed or it was something I can't remember, but anyway,
27:25
Speaker 1: I was so mad that I was basically getting in
27:27
Speaker 1: trouble for something he told me, and then I repeated.
27:31
Speaker 1: I was like, you're a bad influence. But yeah, so
27:33
Speaker 1: I'm not a good example, but other people are. You
27:35
Speaker 1: do get socialized when you go to school. I feel
27:37
Speaker 1: like teachers are so tired and exhausted now that they're
27:39
Speaker 1: not gonna put up with any bullshit anyway. Yeah, okay,
27:43
Speaker 1: while lovable aunt, tell us what happens with their nephew,
27:46
Speaker 1: and if you can set some boundaries, let us know
27:49
Speaker 1: what happens. Problem solved. It sounds like froved at the
27:54
Speaker 1: end of the day. I gotta wait it out right, Well,
27:57
Speaker 1: we have a caller. Are you ready for a caller?
27:59
Speaker 1: Ladies of color? Color? Okay, Amber says, dear Chelsea. I've
28:08
Speaker 1: been dating my perfect man for two years this time around.
28:11
Speaker 1: We dated seventeen years ago and had a tumultuous eight
28:15
Speaker 1: year relationship that ended with cheating, and I was the cheater.
28:19
Speaker 1: In the seven years apart, he dated one girl and
28:22
Speaker 1: I dated several douchebags. He was always on my mind, though,
28:26
Speaker 1: and about two years before we got back together, I
28:28
Speaker 1: started pursuing him again, even while he was committed to
28:31
Speaker 1: someone else. Needless to say, I want him back. I
28:34
Speaker 1: know there's a lot to unpack there, but we've been
28:37
Speaker 1: working really hard. But he has major trust issues. I
28:40
Speaker 1: cheated on him ten years ago, and I'm a completely
28:42
Speaker 1: different person now. I have done a ton of therapy
28:45
Speaker 1: and twelve step programs and even a two month retreat
28:48
Speaker 1: in Thailand. They all have the same message of truth
28:52
Speaker 1: telling and honesty. So I've been exactly that honest. How
28:56
Speaker 1: do I earn his trust back and convinced him that
28:58
Speaker 1: I'm not the Amber from ten years go? Will the
29:00
Speaker 1: trust ever come back? Or will my shitty ways haunt
29:03
Speaker 1: me forever? Amber? Hi Amber, Hi Catherine, how are you?
29:08
Speaker 1: Show everyone your shirt? I'm very excited about this. Let's
29:11
Speaker 1: go to therapy. That's cute, Hi Amber, how are you?
29:17
Speaker 1: These are my sisters. There are a special guests today.
29:19
Speaker 1: Hi sisters. Hi get you. Nice to meet you as well. Wow,
29:26
Speaker 1: that's a long breakup and then you got back. How
29:27
Speaker 1: many years were you guys apart? We were apart for
29:30
Speaker 1: seven years? Wow? So you had let me get this straight.
29:35
Speaker 1: You had eight years together, then broke up for seven
29:38
Speaker 1: and then you've been together again for the second time
29:40
Speaker 1: for two years. Correct? Okay, that's yeah. So we've been
29:46
Speaker 1: together for eight years and then I cheated on him
29:49
Speaker 1: and I had a little bit of an affair, about
29:51
Speaker 1: a three month affair. Obviously he found out about it.
29:54
Speaker 1: We broke up, he got involved in a new relationship,
29:57
Speaker 1: and I was pining for him that whole time time.
30:00
Speaker 1: Then ended up getting back together and we've been back
30:03
Speaker 1: together this last two years, but he just does not
30:06
Speaker 1: trust me. Wait, I have a question, Amber, Was that
30:09
Speaker 1: the only time you cheated on him? One time? Okay, yeah, Okay,
30:13
Speaker 1: go ahead, someone, So how has it been these last
30:15
Speaker 1: two years? You obviously both still had something going on
30:18
Speaker 1: for each other, so enough to bring you back together? Yeah?
30:22
Speaker 1: What is How is he demonstrating this distrust Like he's
30:25
Speaker 1: just not there? You know? For me, it's been great.
30:30
Speaker 1: I'm just so excited to be back together with him
30:32
Speaker 1: that I think I'm a little bit blinded by his insecurity.
30:37
Speaker 1: He gets insecure about kind of the silliest things, like
30:40
Speaker 1: if I'm on my phone for too long. Maybe if
30:42
Speaker 1: I'm on an app and I close out of the
30:44
Speaker 1: app too soon, He's like, why why are you doing that?
30:47
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we cheated on him eight years ago.
30:49
Speaker 1: A lot of it was related around the phone. So
30:52
Speaker 1: he's just been really insecure. He doesn't really voice it.
30:54
Speaker 1: He's a little bit passive aggressive. I can just tell
30:57
Speaker 1: that something's upsetting him. He's not really good at ver
31:00
Speaker 1: balizing it. And then it gets to a point where
31:02
Speaker 1: I start to retreat because he's being he's retreating, and
31:06
Speaker 1: then we'll have kind of like a blow up where
31:07
Speaker 1: he's like, I just don't trust you. You're doing these things.
31:10
Speaker 1: You're being shady with your phone U, you're closing out
31:12
Speaker 1: of these apps some things. I I don't even know
31:15
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. I'm I'm confused on why he's right.
31:19
Speaker 1: He's in a different state of mind altogether than you are. Right,
31:23
Speaker 1: the jealousy thing is a serious thing that's not going
31:26
Speaker 1: to automatically go away. Have you guys gone to counseling
31:30
Speaker 1: together at all? I go to therapy. I asked him
31:33
Speaker 1: to go to therapy, and he was not on board
31:36
Speaker 1: with going to therapy. Well that's a big problem right there.
31:39
Speaker 1: That's a big red flag. This is a hurdle that
31:41
Speaker 1: you have to figure out, and therapy is not the
31:44
Speaker 1: only way, but it might be, you know, the easiest
31:46
Speaker 1: and best way to have a third party figure out,
31:50
Speaker 1: you know, with you guys, if you can get past this,
31:53
Speaker 1: because it's hanging over your relationship and it's not healthy.
31:56
Speaker 1: So you have to move through this or you have
31:59
Speaker 1: to probably not be together. So if you're going to
32:01
Speaker 1: make it work, you have to find a way to
32:05
Speaker 1: address this issue because it's not going away. Yeah, and
32:08
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's been seventeen years and I have
32:12
Speaker 1: so many amazing single girl friends, and I want to
32:14
Speaker 1: be in a long term relationship and I want to
32:16
Speaker 1: be with him, and I don't want to give up
32:19
Speaker 1: on the relationship. And I know that he loves me
32:21
Speaker 1: very much too and doesn't want to give up either.
32:24
Speaker 1: I don't want to say he doesn't. He doesn't want
32:25
Speaker 1: to go to a traditional therapist. He does his own work.
32:27
Speaker 1: He's very spiritual. He listens to a lot of like
32:30
Speaker 1: Eckhart totally and Deepak, and he's just really into that
32:34
Speaker 1: spiritual side of himself. He's a pretty special human. He
32:37
Speaker 1: just can't get past this hurdle. And I'm not sure.
32:41
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to do. I think the fact
32:44
Speaker 1: that he's had this experience, I mean, he has he
32:46
Speaker 1: has a legitimate reason to have this trust issue with you.
32:50
Speaker 1: You have never been in that position, it sounds like,
32:52
Speaker 1: so you can't really understand what he's going through and
32:54
Speaker 1: why he's acting this way, but it's legitimate for him.
32:58
Speaker 1: So I think you really do. If he is spiritual,
33:01
Speaker 1: maybe you just need to go to a different type
33:03
Speaker 1: of third party as someone that's a little bit, you know,
33:06
Speaker 1: more connected to mindfulness, or someone that he's on board with,
33:10
Speaker 1: because I don't think you can kind of grow together
33:14
Speaker 1: if you really think he's the one and he thinks
33:16
Speaker 1: you're the one, but there's this constant issue hanging over
33:20
Speaker 1: your head. I don't think it's gonna work unless you
33:23
Speaker 1: really hash it out. Yeah, I just feel like he's
33:27
Speaker 1: punishing me for something I did ten years ago. Well,
33:31
Speaker 1: he's not punishing you. He's still hurt from something that
33:33
Speaker 1: you did ten years ago. He's hurting and he's not
33:35
Speaker 1: able to let it go. And the whole thing about
33:38
Speaker 1: spirituality is not to hold onto the past or to
33:41
Speaker 1: harbor the past, and that's what he's doing. So he
33:43
Speaker 1: can be as spiritual as he wants, but he's not
33:45
Speaker 1: taking the advice that he's listening to, which is to
33:48
Speaker 1: let go. You're a different person. You've gone to therapy
33:51
Speaker 1: all these years. If he doesn't even have the interest
33:54
Speaker 1: in going and sitting down with you to hear about
33:56
Speaker 1: what you've learned and to figure out a way for
33:58
Speaker 1: you guys to continue, that is a really big red flag.
34:01
Speaker 1: And that's to say what he could spend the next
34:04
Speaker 1: ten years holding this over your head. I feel like
34:07
Speaker 1: you have done the work to account for your behavior.
34:10
Speaker 1: You're not going to do it again. Enough time has passed,
34:13
Speaker 1: It's been two years. How long is he going to
34:15
Speaker 1: hold onto this for he has to accept and trust
34:18
Speaker 1: in order for you guys to grow, and if he can't, Yeah,
34:21
Speaker 1: you've got to either figure you have to have a
34:23
Speaker 1: third party sit down and have a conversation about it,
34:25
Speaker 1: because it's irrational. At this point, you're not doing anything
34:28
Speaker 1: that's warranting his distrust. And if he wanted to get
34:31
Speaker 1: back in this relationship, even though you went and pursued
34:34
Speaker 1: him and I'm sure you were very influential and getting
34:36
Speaker 1: you back together, he agreed to get back together, So
34:39
Speaker 1: he has to agree to like a new set of
34:41
Speaker 1: terms at a fresh start. Yeah, I mean enough time
34:43
Speaker 1: has passed since this happened, and you've demonstrated your behavior
34:48
Speaker 1: in the past two years and then this newest part
34:50
Speaker 1: of your relationship, and if that's not enough, then it
34:53
Speaker 1: has to be you know, you have to work on
34:55
Speaker 1: it together for him to either get past or if
34:58
Speaker 1: you if he realizes he can't get past it, that's
35:01
Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, it makes me really sad because I'm
35:05
Speaker 1: worried that he can't and it sounds like he might
35:08
Speaker 1: not be able to. I do wonder if there is
35:13
Speaker 1: something that's, not, like you said, traditional therapy that might
35:16
Speaker 1: be really healing for him. First of all, of course,
35:19
Speaker 1: there's a ton of books about getting over cheating and
35:21
Speaker 1: how to repair relationships, so like that might be something
35:24
Speaker 1: to be like, Hey, I need you to read a
35:26
Speaker 1: couple of these books so we can start to move
35:28
Speaker 1: on from this and rebuild that trust. But you might
35:31
Speaker 1: also look into like a weekend retreat with a shaman
35:36
Speaker 1: based on connecting with your significant other or something like
35:39
Speaker 1: that that feels a little bit more you, guys, or
35:43
Speaker 1: feels a little bit more of him that he might
35:44
Speaker 1: be more comfortable with now. Liked ayahuasca. He did an
35:48
Speaker 1: Ayahuaska retreat and cost and I think that really helped him.
35:53
Speaker 1: I don't think it was as powerful as he was
35:54
Speaker 1: expecting it to be, but I know that's more his
35:58
Speaker 1: route and I'm willing to support him and that, so
36:01
Speaker 1: I really I really like that idea. Well, I mean,
36:03
Speaker 1: it's good that he's into this stuff, and then he's
36:05
Speaker 1: sort of open to sort of you know, forward thinking
36:09
Speaker 1: and and and you know, changing his outlook and all
36:12
Speaker 1: of that, so it sounds like he's got the potential
36:14
Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, this one issue is kind
36:16
Speaker 1: of significant for him, but there's got to be a
36:19
Speaker 1: way that you can address it together, because again, you're
36:22
Speaker 1: you're speaking about two different things. He's experiencing things, and
36:25
Speaker 1: he's not able to verbalize it to you what the
36:27
Speaker 1: triggers are and when it happens and how that makes
36:30
Speaker 1: him feel, and you need to have this conversation together.
36:32
Speaker 1: And I think the only way to do is to
36:34
Speaker 1: have an interpreters their party that can really help you
36:37
Speaker 1: and try maybe you can do a Molly m d
36:39
Speaker 1: m A session with somebody. Those are good. No, really,
36:42
Speaker 1: it's helpful for couples, especially when they're cheating involved, because
36:45
Speaker 1: it kind of like gets rid of your ego and
36:47
Speaker 1: people are just like you're so loving and communicative that
36:50
Speaker 1: you can solve a lot of these kinds of big
36:52
Speaker 1: issue relationship issues in one session, Like if you get
36:56
Speaker 1: somebody who can guide you through an m d M
36:57
Speaker 1: a therapy journey with you and your partner, and that
37:01
Speaker 1: way it's not traditional therapy. Yeah, we've tried be made together,
37:05
Speaker 1: but having somebody lead it, I think would be would
37:09
Speaker 1: probably be more powerful. Yeah. Yeah, because for him at
37:12
Speaker 1: this point, his wrote response, his pattern and his brain
37:16
Speaker 1: is like I'm afraid, I'm afraid. I'm afraid. So he
37:18
Speaker 1: needs something to break him out of that, and he
37:20
Speaker 1: also needs to be taking the initiative to work on
37:22
Speaker 1: that healing for himself. Yeah. I just hope, I just
37:26
Speaker 1: hope that the relationship that hasn't it hasn't gone too far,
37:28
Speaker 1: because I do love him, and it sounds like you
37:31
Speaker 1: want to do the work, So that's half the battle,
37:33
Speaker 1: and I just have to make sure he wants to
37:34
Speaker 1: do the work. Yeah. Yeah, you just need to figure
37:37
Speaker 1: out what that work looks like and let him know
37:39
Speaker 1: how much you're committed to trying to get there where
37:42
Speaker 1: whatever it is that it takes to get him more comfortable.
37:46
Speaker 1: You guys, are on the same page and get past
37:48
Speaker 1: this that you'll do it. Well, I'll do what it
37:50
Speaker 1: what it takes. I'm hoping he does as well. Yeah,
37:53
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got like seventeen years together now, right,
37:56
Speaker 1: so try and figure it the funk out what I
37:59
Speaker 1: tell him? That? Tell him that, I'll tell him. Chelsea
38:02
Speaker 1: said that, Yeah, please, do I need another straight fan
38:08
Speaker 1: to add to the other two. All right, well, thanks
38:14
Speaker 1: for calling in, Amber, keep us posted and let us
38:16
Speaker 1: know how everything goes. Good luck, Amber will so much.
38:19
Speaker 1: Thank you, sisters. By that's a good podcast title, you guys.
38:24
Speaker 1: Thank you sisters, unless it's about nuns. Well, I have
38:32
Speaker 1: an email from a straight listener. His name is Sean.
38:37
Speaker 1: Dear Chelsea, my name is Shawn, and I wanted to
38:39
Speaker 1: write in and see if I could get some advice
38:41
Speaker 1: about an upcoming diagnosis. My wife, yes I'm a straight
38:46
Speaker 1: man writing in, has come into recent awareness that she
38:49
Speaker 1: might be on the autism spectrum. She's going to get
38:51
Speaker 1: tested because she would like to have the answer to
38:53
Speaker 1: some of the idiosyncrasies in her life. We've been together
38:56
Speaker 1: for six years and married for a little over a year.
38:59
Speaker 1: I've expressed that no matter what the outcome could be
39:02
Speaker 1: it doesn't change any part of who she is as
39:04
Speaker 1: a person, and more importantly, she's my wife. I am
39:07
Speaker 1: just worried that she could go into a grieving or
39:10
Speaker 1: depression about this discovery. She's expressed to me that she
39:13
Speaker 1: would most likely grieve for her younger self. But I
39:16
Speaker 1: want to make sure I can show up for her
39:18
Speaker 1: in every facet as a role model for women and
39:21
Speaker 1: mental health. I feel that you would be able to
39:23
Speaker 1: help give some perspective as to how I can best
39:25
Speaker 1: support and comfort my wife through this time. You're a
39:28
Speaker 1: north star for both my wife and my mother in law,
39:31
Speaker 1: sharing many similar traits and beliefs. That's why I thought
39:34
Speaker 1: you'd be perfect to give an outside perspective. Sean, What
39:37
Speaker 1: a sweetheart. I know. Yeah, that's sweet Sean. We're all
39:42
Speaker 1: attracted to you. Now, okay, I'll go first. I think
39:45
Speaker 1: that first all, that's a total gift to get a
39:47
Speaker 1: diagnosis so you understand where your behaviors are coming from.
39:50
Speaker 1: My friend Amy Schumer, who has been very public about
39:52
Speaker 1: her husband's autism diagnosis, was also directed by her. She
39:57
Speaker 1: noticed some weird behaviors or some non tradition sinel behavior
40:00
Speaker 1: stuff She wasn't used to seeing. She saw and asked, hey,
40:04
Speaker 1: do you think I've looked this up, and I think
40:06
Speaker 1: there's a chance you might want to get tested because
40:09
Speaker 1: you might be on the spectrum. And he did, and
40:11
Speaker 1: it was like such an informational tool. Then he understood
40:15
Speaker 1: why he acted differently in his behavior towards things like
40:18
Speaker 1: she fell down once and he didn't go to pick
40:20
Speaker 1: her up, and he's like, I don't know why I
40:23
Speaker 1: didn't do that either. She's like, usually if someone falls,
40:25
Speaker 1: you know, somebody comes to help me, Like why are
40:28
Speaker 1: you standing there? And he's like, I don't know. So,
40:31
Speaker 1: you know, the synapses are different, and the reactions are different,
40:34
Speaker 1: and your socialization is very different. So it's a very
40:38
Speaker 1: big gift to get the information to understand and put
40:42
Speaker 1: in context all of these things that you've kind of
40:44
Speaker 1: been confused about for so long. So I think you
40:46
Speaker 1: have to look at it and go at it from
40:48
Speaker 1: that very positive angle, like, oh my god, great we
40:51
Speaker 1: have answers. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean data is key.
40:56
Speaker 1: So you know, she could potentially being diagnosed with a
40:58
Speaker 1: form of autism, but she's not being diagnosed with terminal cancer.
41:01
Speaker 1: So it's something she's had probably since she was a child,
41:05
Speaker 1: and it's just putting sort of a name to it,
41:07
Speaker 1: in diagnosis to it. But it's not changing her life
41:10
Speaker 1: in anyway. She's still living the same life with her husband.
41:13
Speaker 1: So this information can be useful, you know, they can
41:16
Speaker 1: read more about it, and they can sort of maybe
41:19
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you would change anything, to
41:20
Speaker 1: be honest, but just recognizing the signals in the symptoms
41:25
Speaker 1: and the behaviors that she's been seeing, I think, yeah,
41:28
Speaker 1: I agree, it's it's valuable to get that information back.
41:31
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with data. Yeah, And being autistic is
41:34
Speaker 1: an advantage in many ways that we don't see. So
41:37
Speaker 1: there's this whole additional layer of added value that autistic
41:42
Speaker 1: people bring to the table in the way they see
41:44
Speaker 1: things and in the way they take information in in
41:47
Speaker 1: the way that they see the world. It's just so
41:49
Speaker 1: much different, and so like there's so much value in
41:51
Speaker 1: teaching more people about that. Your children. You it's not
41:55
Speaker 1: a bad thing. It's not like you're getting a cancer diagnosis.
41:58
Speaker 1: You're getting a personality diagnosed this and that is always helpful. Yeah,
42:02
Speaker 1: And it might be like a little just a relief
42:04
Speaker 1: just to know Okay, now that's that's what I have.
42:07
Speaker 1: I have a name for it, this is what it is.
42:09
Speaker 1: If I know that I have autism, then there are
42:11
Speaker 1: very specific people that you can go see that deal
42:15
Speaker 1: with that you know, regarding autism, that can help you,
42:18
Speaker 1: as opposed to seeing somebody that may not be familiar
42:21
Speaker 1: with that or that kind of thing. So it's a
42:24
Speaker 1: good opportunity to move forward with it knowing what you
42:27
Speaker 1: have and knowing where to go to get help if
42:30
Speaker 1: there's things you want to change. And I also think
42:32
Speaker 1: to Sean's original question, which I think was about how
42:35
Speaker 1: do I provide appropriate support, I think you know she's
42:39
Speaker 1: gonna handle it, how she's gonna handle it. We can't
42:41
Speaker 1: predict if she's going to be depressed about it initially,
42:44
Speaker 1: or she's going to be kind of excited to have
42:47
Speaker 1: this data and want to see a therapist or want
42:49
Speaker 1: to see a specialist. So you kind of have to
42:51
Speaker 1: react to her and know not to diminish any of
42:55
Speaker 1: those feelings that she's having and just be there as
42:58
Speaker 1: you have been apparently in support her regardless of her reaction.
43:02
Speaker 1: And then it's really ultimately her decision as to whether
43:06
Speaker 1: she takes the next steps or not, because I remember
43:08
Speaker 1: it sounds very similar to Amy's story. So some people,
43:11
Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing to do, it's just to be
43:13
Speaker 1: there and support those reactions and sort of help her
43:16
Speaker 1: walk through the emotions that she might experience. Yeah. Yeah,
43:19
Speaker 1: and great for you for even asking, you know, I
43:21
Speaker 1: mean that says it all about your personality. It's already
43:24
Speaker 1: where it needs to be that you'll be supportive and
43:27
Speaker 1: very encouraging and always I think just keep reminding your
43:30
Speaker 1: wife in the moments that she needs to hear it
43:33
Speaker 1: what a positive thing this is. Knowledge is power, and
43:36
Speaker 1: like you have all this information now, assuming she does
43:39
Speaker 1: tests and is on the spectrum, so positivity is everything too.
43:44
Speaker 1: You know, just to be like a solid kind of
43:46
Speaker 1: stable force in someone's life when they're going through something
43:48
Speaker 1: is a big gift. Yeah. I think that's all good advice. Well, Sean,
43:53
Speaker 1: let us know how it goes. Let us know if
43:55
Speaker 1: you found some resources and we're able to put some
43:57
Speaker 1: good systems in place, and I think we should start. Also,
44:00
Speaker 1: we're giving rewards to the straight men that call into
44:03
Speaker 1: the podcast, Catherine. I mean, if they're this kind, there
44:05
Speaker 1: should be a list obviously, anyone straight man who's listening
44:09
Speaker 1: to this or calling in is very masculine, because you
44:12
Speaker 1: would have to be very confident. Oh, I just hit
44:16
Speaker 1: myself in the face with a microphone. It's almost like
44:19
Speaker 1: men were just kicking me in the face as a
44:21
Speaker 1: response to that. But yeah, it takes a big man
44:24
Speaker 1: to do that, and that's very sexy. So, like I said,
44:27
Speaker 1: we're all attracted to you, Sean. Yes, this is another
44:35
Speaker 1: sibling related questions. So Live wrote into us and she said,
44:42
Speaker 1: Dear Chelsea, my brother and his Now what breaks my
44:45
Speaker 1: heart to say ex girlfriend have been separated for close
44:49
Speaker 1: to a year. To make a long story short, they
44:52
Speaker 1: encountered issues as they both got older and faced real
44:54
Speaker 1: world responsibilities. It had an impact on their relationship where
44:58
Speaker 1: they felt they needed to separate and of the record,
45:00
Speaker 1: there here's the thing. The two of them are still
45:04
Speaker 1: in love with each other and have both admitted it
45:07
Speaker 1: to me, and it's so obvious to everyone who knows
45:09
Speaker 1: and loves them that they're meant to be. For some reason,
45:12
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to get it together to resolve
45:15
Speaker 1: the situation, most likely poor communication. Our entire family has
45:19
Speaker 1: been under the impression that we were just waiting for
45:22
Speaker 1: them to be in the right headspace to get back together. However,
45:26
Speaker 1: after his ex told him he should move on, even
45:29
Speaker 1: though she didn't actually want him to, my brother has
45:31
Speaker 1: taken it upon himself to start dating a new girl.
45:34
Speaker 1: I'm entirely sure that this is a band aid, an
45:36
Speaker 1: easy situation for him to have fun and feel better.
45:39
Speaker 1: He was hiding this from me because he knows I'm
45:41
Speaker 1: still close with his ex. I always envisioned her as
45:44
Speaker 1: my future sister in law. I really don't want to
45:47
Speaker 1: make this situation about myself. However, I'm having a hard
45:50
Speaker 1: time because only I know how the two of them
45:52
Speaker 1: still feel about each other. But now he wants me
45:55
Speaker 1: to meet his new girl that he's seeing. I feel
45:57
Speaker 1: like it's too soon and frankly have no interest in
45:59
Speaker 1: meeting her. But I don't want to hurt his feelings.
46:02
Speaker 1: How do I handle this situation without imposing my feelings
46:05
Speaker 1: onto his life? Ps Listening to this podcast every week
46:08
Speaker 1: has probably enabled me to not have very strong emotional
46:11
Speaker 1: reaction to the situation to begin with. I appreciate this
46:15
Speaker 1: basically free therapy, and I should probably go to real
46:18
Speaker 1: therapy live. I feel like has she expressed her feelings
46:21
Speaker 1: about this to her brother, I don't think so. Like,
46:25
Speaker 1: I think they've talked about it, and she said, like
46:27
Speaker 1: she's close with both of them, are both still in
46:29
Speaker 1: love with each other, but it's also been a year
46:31
Speaker 1: since they broke up. Yeah, but look at our last couple,
46:34
Speaker 1: they were broken up for seven years. I feel like
46:37
Speaker 1: not meeting a new girlfriend is not the move. I
46:40
Speaker 1: don't think that like she's holding it against him that
46:43
Speaker 1: he hasn't. He may need five years to come to
46:46
Speaker 1: that conclusion, you know, And it's not really for her
46:50
Speaker 1: to sort of force them together at this point in
46:52
Speaker 1: their life if they've decided they need to be separate
46:55
Speaker 1: at this point in their life. So this no girlfriend
46:57
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything wrong. She's just happens to be the
46:59
Speaker 1: new girlfriend. And if it's important to her brother that
47:03
Speaker 1: they meet, I don't see why she can't honor that
47:06
Speaker 1: and don't think of it as you this is your
47:08
Speaker 1: sister in law. This is just someone he's dating right
47:11
Speaker 1: now at this moment in time. I think he's reading
47:14
Speaker 1: a lot into it. And I don't think that people
47:16
Speaker 1: need to find their life partner years old. Yeah, definitely
47:19
Speaker 1: not at twenty five years old. And if you really
47:21
Speaker 1: believe that they're so in love with each other, then
47:23
Speaker 1: you can say that to your brother, like, hey, it's
47:26
Speaker 1: very obvious to me that you guys are in love
47:28
Speaker 1: with each other still. So all you have to do
47:30
Speaker 1: is just express that to him once and then your
47:33
Speaker 1: job is done and your conscious is clear. You can't
47:35
Speaker 1: prevent him from moving on and dating people or any
47:38
Speaker 1: of that. It's like you're not in charge of their relationship.
47:41
Speaker 1: All you can do is just tell him your truth,
47:42
Speaker 1: tell him once, don't repeat it fifty times, and then
47:45
Speaker 1: move on with it. And this new girl didn't do anything,
47:47
Speaker 1: she's just dating somebody. And the fact that he's twenty
47:50
Speaker 1: five years old is also a sign that everybody needs
47:53
Speaker 1: a little bit more growing up than to get settled
47:55
Speaker 1: down at twenty five. That's just so super young. So
47:57
Speaker 1: I mean, they may have gotten super scared if they
48:00
Speaker 1: were so intense and so like ready for marriage, and
48:03
Speaker 1: that could have caused the breakup. Maybe they realized, like
48:05
Speaker 1: we were going too fast, too young, and maybe they'll
48:08
Speaker 1: come around and it will get back together. But again,
48:10
Speaker 1: it's not her job to force them together and get
48:14
Speaker 1: in the middle of it. It It is a lot about her,
48:16
Speaker 1: is this I'm getting a future him. This is the
48:18
Speaker 1: sister right writing in yeah, this is just writing in
48:21
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And I think you know, we do get
48:23
Speaker 1: so bonded to the people that are siblings. Bring home.
48:26
Speaker 1: I know my mother in law was even more devastated
48:30
Speaker 1: with a breakup that happened with one of her sons
48:32
Speaker 1: than he was. I mean, and for years who was
48:34
Speaker 1: devastated about the loss of this relationship. And it's okay
48:38
Speaker 1: to grieve that, But at the same time, you do
48:41
Speaker 1: have to respect, like, maybe your brother does want to
48:43
Speaker 1: move on, Maybe maybe he does want a little band
48:45
Speaker 1: aid and a little fun, and maybe they will get
48:48
Speaker 1: back together, and maybe they won't. You just have to
48:50
Speaker 1: be nice and civil to the new girl while she's there.
48:52
Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean you have to like me or
48:54
Speaker 1: bestie all the time. And you don't need to sabotage
48:56
Speaker 1: it either. Yes, yeah, right, right, Trishanna, anymore wisdom on
49:01
Speaker 1: that one. I mean, she really needs to take a
49:03
Speaker 1: step back. She's too involved with the whole their adults,
49:08
Speaker 1: so they're gonna do what they're gonna do and let
49:10
Speaker 1: nature take its course. I agree with Chelsea that she
49:13
Speaker 1: should let her know how she feels for him, know
49:16
Speaker 1: how she feels. But you know, that's all you can say.
49:19
Speaker 1: And and they're grown up, so you know, maybe it'll happen,
49:22
Speaker 1: maybe it won't. Don't hold it against the new person
49:25
Speaker 1: that's you know, it seems wrong, and what's going on
49:29
Speaker 1: with you and your boyfriend and your relationships? Like you know.
49:41
Speaker 1: But I will say I want to go on the
49:42
Speaker 1: record because I've had this conversation with both of my
49:44
Speaker 1: sisters about previous relationships that I've been in when they
49:47
Speaker 1: didn't say anything to me when I was with somebody
49:50
Speaker 1: that they thought was creepy or weird or whatever. I'm like,
49:53
Speaker 1: you guys, way to tell me After the fact, They're like, well,
49:55
Speaker 1: we never liked him. It's like, well, fuck off. It
49:58
Speaker 1: was like two or to four years of my life.
50:00
Speaker 1: But and their excuses, what'sman, that I wouldn't listen to
50:03
Speaker 1: you if you have. I think it's a different sitation.
50:05
Speaker 1: I think those are different situations. Here. We're talking about
50:08
Speaker 1: someone she loves an ex girlfriends. She wants them to
50:10
Speaker 1: marry the ex girlfriend. It's like, not for her to
50:12
Speaker 1: make that happen. When it's I'm seeing with you that
50:14
Speaker 1: I don't think someone that you're with is currently perfect.
50:19
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's not the same situation. I
50:22
Speaker 1: know how how that can sabotage. You can say like
50:24
Speaker 1: you can say I really don't like this person. Then
50:26
Speaker 1: you end up getting married and you have a twenty
50:28
Speaker 1: five year married and I put that out there that
50:30
Speaker 1: I just don't love this guy. There's that risk there
50:34
Speaker 1: to the relationship. If I really thought the person was
50:36
Speaker 1: dangerous for you or it was an unhealthy relationship, I
50:40
Speaker 1: think that's a different story, and that's where you do
50:42
Speaker 1: have to step up and say something to prevent that
50:45
Speaker 1: from becoming a long term unhealthy relationship. Yeah, I guess, so,
50:50
Speaker 1: I guess so. I don't know. I feel like you
50:52
Speaker 1: should tell people when you don't like their spouse, but
50:54
Speaker 1: I know it does backfire. But I just think with
50:56
Speaker 1: sisters and siblings, it's a different story. You're hearing that
50:59
Speaker 1: from a doubling like, oh, yeah, this person is dangerous
51:02
Speaker 1: or this person is weird or I think it would
51:04
Speaker 1: have a different impact, especially girls. But then again, conversely,
51:09
Speaker 1: girls can be totally bitchy and county and be pissed
51:12
Speaker 1: about it. So I get it. Yeah, Well, it's like
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Speaker 1: that movie what was that show Bad Sisters where all
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Speaker 1: the sisters where they murdered the brother in law. I
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Speaker 1: love that best. I know they were at the Critics
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Speaker 1: Choice Awards. I gave them a shout out for murdering
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Speaker 1: their brother, their brother, their brother, and that's how their
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Speaker 1: brother in law. I said that my family. I've been
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Speaker 1: wanting to do that for years, but I could never
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Speaker 1: get any of my siblings on board. You know who
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Speaker 1: I was really talking about. Anyway, Okay, that's a crap.
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Speaker 1: We are done. We're not going to ask them for advice, Catherine,
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Speaker 1: because it's silly. You know. I'm like, we're gonna ask you,
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Speaker 1: a little sister for a lot of unsolicited advice. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: So all the time. Yeah, well, thank you, ladies. What
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Speaker 1: a great job, Sissy Bomb, so good to meet you.
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Speaker 1: Oh likewise, I'm so pleased to finally meet you. And
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Speaker 1: She'll say, I confirmed the March connection. Yes, the March babies.
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Speaker 1: I know. That's a great birthday to have. Actually, March
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Speaker 1: fifteen three now free and our family from the family,
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Speaker 1: Mike and me, Yeah, okay, and Olga's March right, Okay, Okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: good to know. I'm gonna write all those dates down
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Speaker 1: right now, because I don't want to miss your birthday.
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Speaker 1: Bye girls, thank you. Also, I'm going back on tour. Everybody,
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Speaker 1: I have a new tour. It's called a little Big
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Speaker 1: Bitch because I'm a little big bitch and I always
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Speaker 1: have been. Sometimes. Well now i'm a big little bit. No,
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Speaker 1: I'm still a little big bitch. Whatever. Anyway, I'm going
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Speaker 1: back on tour. I'm warming up my new one hour
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Speaker 1: that I have to create from scratch. But I have
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Speaker 1: some very strong ideas. I'm gonna be a Daney's Nashville
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Speaker 1: March twenty nine through Sunday April six, and then Irvine
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Speaker 1: improv and then and I have dates theater dates everywhere
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Speaker 1: from Peoria, Illinois, Carmel, Kalamazoo, Spokane, Washington, Boys Idaho, Vegas, Highland, California, Tulsa, Oklahoma,
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Speaker 1: and more and more and more. So go to Chelsea
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Speaker 1: Handler dot com for tickets. And yeah, that starts in April.
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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited, Katherine. Yeah, I have family in Peoria, Illinois.
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Speaker 1: They might feel too square though to come to you. Well,
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Speaker 1: now they can see me. They just reach. Shouldn't interact
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Speaker 1: riot exactly, don't forget to watch my special on Netflix.
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Speaker 1: You guys revolution. It's a revolution. So if you'd like
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Speaker 1: advice from Chelsea, just send us an email at Dear
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Speaker 1: Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea is a
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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Executive produced by Nick Stuff,
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Speaker 1: produced by Catherine Law, and edited and engineered by Brad Dickert.