Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #272 - Tucker Carlson’s Easter Shock: Trump’s Iran Ultimatum & The Christian Conflation
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- 0:00Today is April the 7th, and we are going to find out whether Donald Trump is
- 0:05the extreme bluffer or if something catastrophic is going to happen later today.
- 0:10He issued an ultimatum to Iran that they either open the Strait of Hormuz or
- 0:16they are going to experience hell on earth today, and today is the deadline.
- 0:21And actually, 20 minutes ago, before we are live right now, he just put out
- 0:26a statement on Truth Social.
- 0:27Donald Trump says, quote, a whole civilization will die tonight,
- 0:32never to be brought back again.
- 0:33I don't want that to happen, but it probably will.
- 0:37However, now that we have complete and total regime change, where different,
- 0:41smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionary,
- 0:46wonderful, can happen. Who knows?
- 0:49We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and
- 0:53complex history of the world, 47 years of extortion, corruption,
- 0:58and death, we will finally end.
- 1:00God bless the great people of Iran. So we're going to focus this morning on
- 1:05what Tucker Carlson, his show that he did yesterday and his perspective on Donald
- 1:11Trump, because I've went back and forth on this.
- 1:14I don't know Tucker Carlson's motives. He says that he likes the man,
- 1:19he loves the man, Donald Trump, but it feels like he has turned a complete about face on Donald Trump.
- 1:25And we're going to look at what he said in his, the remarks that he is specifically
- 1:28focused on was on Easter morning, Donald Trump issued the ultimatum.
- 1:33And I'm not going to quote it here because Tucker is going to say it in this clip.
- 1:36The Easter is a uniquely joyful and peaceful moment.
- 1:41And yet that peace yesterday was shattered. That's not an overstatement.
- 1:44It was shattered for many observant Christians by a statement that the president
- 1:47of the United States put out at 8.03 a.m.
- 1:50Eastern time on Easter morning that said this, and we're going to read it in
- 1:54its entirety, not in outrage or self-righteousness, but honestly in horror. Quote.
- 1:59Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran.
- 2:05There'll be nothing like it, three exclamation points.
- 2:08Open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch, all caps.
- 2:15Praise be to Allah, President Donald J.
- 2:18Trump. Now, a lot of people reading that imagined, of course, this can't be real.
- 2:24Did the president of the United States really just write that? And it is real.
- 2:27It is maybe the most real thing this president has ever done,
- 2:30and also the most revealing.
- 2:31On every level, it is vile. On every level.
- 2:36It begins with a promise to use the U.S.
- 2:39Military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country,
- 2:45which is to say to commit a war crime, a moral crime against the people of the country.
- 2:49So I know a lot of people are jumping on this, and when he brings up the praise
- 2:53be to Allah, I have to point this out.
- 2:55Just him saying that Christians in these Arabic, they speak Arabic over there.
- 3:00That's their word for God.
- 3:02That's what they call God. Christians say when they're talking about God, they say Allah.
- 3:08That's just the word for God over there. And I know Donald Trump,
- 3:11when he's using that, it's very provocative.
- 3:14It's sarcasm. It's to make a point, a greater point.
- 3:20Donald Trump is always going to say crazy stuff to get people riled up he's
- 3:25not conventional and every time we think that we understand the man we don't
- 3:30but what tucker tucker is bringing up is.
- 3:33His disgust for Donald Trump, and it's coming through, and I don't know his motives.
- 3:38I don't know. I think Donald Trump turned against him, and now he is whatever
- 3:42Donald Trump says that Tucker is going to disagree with, and he's upset with.
- 3:47And I think this is a very pivotal point in history, of U.S.
- 3:52History, world history.
- 3:53But where the conflation is happening is Tucker is constantly berating Donald
- 3:59Trump and using Christian morals.
- 4:02And this is where I think people are getting the disconnect of there's the personal
- 4:07individual person that if you're a Christian and then there's government, there's nations.
- 4:13And when the apostles were here and when Jesus was here, the last thing that
- 4:18they did was try to tell Caesar how to not be Caesar and to be the moral police over Caesar.
- 4:26They were out there to convert souls, to share the gospel, share the good news.
- 4:31They weren't in a position of the king needs to be become Christian.
- 4:36And I know I want Donald Trump to be Christian and he says he is,
- 4:40but Donald Trump is going through things.
- 4:42He's making decisions as, as a leader of the United States.
- 4:47When you're put in that role, cause I'm always thinking about this.
- 4:49Should I, like, if I was in that position, would I be like Truman?
- 4:53And I would, I make the call to drop the atom bomb. Would I make the call?
- 4:57Would I be able to, even if I was a pilot, be able to drop bombs on people where
- 5:01it could hit civilians, people that are quote unquote innocent?
- 5:06I don't know if I could. And it doesn't even matter if I know if I could.
- 5:09I'm not in that position.
- 5:11It doesn't matter. You're not there.
- 5:13God hasn't put you there. The only people that are there, God has put Donald
- 5:18Trump where he's at or any person that's in authority and they're making calls.
- 5:23They're executing in some ways God's will. I mean, and always pretty much God's will.
- 5:28They wouldn't be there if God hadn't put him there. And they're doing things
- 5:32that we don't even understand.
- 5:34We don't see what's behind the veil. We don't see what God is doing in the heavenly
- 5:40realms, what God's will is. It's just before our eyes.
- 5:44But this is where the conflation happens, that we just think that as Christians,
- 5:49we need to impose our values upon our leaders. And it's great if they have those values. Values.
- 5:55But that to be our ultimate extreme end, it's really missing the point.
- 5:59On this next clip, I can kind of agree with Donald.
- 6:02I can agree with Tucker because he is about Paula White and what she said about Donald Trump.
- 6:08Comparing him to Jesus was over the top.
- 6:11And you should not do that. But let's take a look at this clip.
- 6:14And Mr. President, no one has paid the price like you have paid the price. It's not true.
- 6:19It almost cost you your life. You were betrayed and arrested and falsely accused.
- 6:25It's a familiar pattern that our Lord and Savior showed us, but it didn't end
- 6:30there for him, and it didn't end there for you.
- 6:33It's hard to believe that's real. That is so vile. It's such a sacrilege.
- 6:38Standing in front of American flags in the White House with some kind of beta
- 6:44evangelical leader nodding along, as you liken the president of the United States
- 6:49to Jesus, the Christian Messiah,
- 6:51God in human form, how could you say something like that?
- 6:55How could the rest of us sit by and not protest when she said something like
- 6:58that? How could any Christian watch that and not feel revulsion?
- 7:02Well, because people didn't pay attention or they didn't think about it.
- 7:05Oh, it's just the praise that Trump demands.
- 7:07Fine. I think about in the Bible, King Nebuchadnezzar, he was a man that he slaughtered Jews.
- 7:15He slaughtered a lot of people. He conquered nations. He was the pinnacle of
- 7:20power in his time in history. But God got to him.
- 7:24God made him a child of his, brought down his pride so that he became a follower
- 7:32of the true God that we see. We see his testimony in the book of Daniel.
- 7:35We see Nebuchadnezzar, that king, his testimony of how God brought him to humiliation
- 7:41so that he cried out to the true and living God.
- 7:43So all I'm saying is, I think it is disgusting what Paula White says,
- 7:48like making those comparisons.
- 7:51It's hard for me to say that some other Christian is doing something terrible
- 7:55because we all have our unique roles and personalities, and maybe God's calling
- 8:00us to something that we don't necessarily agree with, but maybe God's behind it.
- 8:04Her saying that to me, it does rub me wrong. I don't think we should be comparing
- 8:08any person to God who is Jesus Christ. I don't think we should do that.
- 8:13She's making an analogy to like drive home the point of what President Trump has went through.
- 8:19It does rub me the wrong way as well. So I get that is kind of repulsive to me.
- 8:24But maybe the struggle that Donald Trump is going through is his own pride.
- 8:30Maybe that is something that he could struggle through and God needs to bring him down low.
- 8:35Maybe her like putting that in front of him is in God is watching.
- 8:39Are you going to accept that praise? Are you going to in humility say no?
- 8:43We don't know Donald Trump's heart.
- 8:46I don't know his heart. We don't know anyone's heart. And we don't know what
- 8:49God is doing behind the scenes behind anyone.
- 8:51So where where this goes, because this is going to we're going to find out that
- 8:57after today, we could be in a completely different world. If God, if,
- 9:02That's not a Freudian slip. If Donald Trump, I mean, that is just even saying
- 9:08that, like there will be a man in the future that will accept praise as God.
- 9:14So Donald Trump, I don't, God only knows who the Antichrist is.
- 9:19I don't think it's him, but I know some people do.
- 9:22But if God decides to allow Donald Trump to do something next level tonight
- 9:31of ramping up, of dropping a bomb,
- 9:36of just decimating their entire infrastructure over there in Iran,
- 9:40behind it, ultimately, anything, I mean, you can't get away from the fact.
- 9:43The worst atrocities in the world, whether you look at it as an atrocity or
- 9:47as something that just needs to be done, everything happens,
- 9:53especially at the power level that these world leaders have.
- 9:58At third level, God is behind it all, pulling the strings, not necessarily in
- 10:04pulling the strings, his will is being played out in world affairs.
- 10:08So if that goes to that level where that happens and we, it's not for me really
- 10:14to decide, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
- 10:16I don't think I, at the personal individual level, I think we should all be
- 10:20trying to reach people's souls and try to let them know that there is a way
- 10:25that you don't have to go to hell and it's not through Islam.
- 10:29And it's like, this is the struggle that I have. Like if people are born into
- 10:33this ideology where it's not just like peaceful Islam or being a Muslim,
- 10:38but they're born into this radicalized worldview, death to America,
- 10:44death to Israel, death to all Jews, death to everyone, except if you're a Muslim.
- 10:50It's like, what do you do with that? Because I know I've lived with a lot of
- 10:53people that are peaceful Muslims, that are good people, a lot better people
- 10:57than me. And that's the point.
- 10:59The way you get to heaven, the way you get to be with God is not based on what
- 11:03you even do at all. It's not.
- 11:06It's based on whether you're forgiven or not. And if you're forgiven,
- 11:10then you will, your life will change.
- 11:12So I could say, I know there are a lot of people that are a lot better than
- 11:15a lot of good Christians, but it's just, are you connected with Jesus Christ or not?
- 11:21Muslims are not connected with them.
- 11:24They're denying him, but that doesn't give them cause to they need to die.
- 11:28But what do we do with people that they, they're going to be,
- 11:31they're going to not only want to strap bombs to them and be suicide bombers
- 11:36and blow up as many people as they want as they can so that they can get to
- 11:40paradise and have virgins in heaven.
- 11:43Not only that, but they are putting into their minds of their own children that
- 11:47you need to do the exact same thing. What do we do with that?
- 11:51When is it time for our government leaders to put a stop to that, to not let it.
- 11:57Infect the rest of the world, infect other minds, and just take with the sword
- 12:03and spread that ideology?
- 12:05When is it time? When is enough enough? I'm not saying because I'm not in that
- 12:08position that Donald Trump is in or that any of our leaders are in,
- 12:12but they're there and they're making the call.
- 12:15And really behind it is it's God.
- 12:19God is making the decision. He's made the decision. we're just seeing it played
- 12:22out it it can be it can feel like tough to accept that it really can but at
- 12:29the end of the day like tucker is his disgust with donald trump putting that out there.
- 12:35No one would get this like that's how you got to get people's attention i i
- 12:40just see it donald trump is just he wants to say the craziest thing possible
- 12:44and to him it might even be crazy he's just a deal maker and he's trying to
- 12:50make things happen that he wants.
- 12:51And he's doing it through coercion,
- 12:53pressure, leverage on all these other people, these other nations.
- 12:56And I get the whole Israel angle because if I went into that,
- 13:00like if someone, and I know most people right now don't support Israel,
- 13:04most people are not standing with the Jews and with the Israel nation.
- 13:08And it's like us doing what we are doing in the United States.
- 13:10I'm not going to sit back and say, we're doing it for America.
- 13:13If I wasn't, if I didn't stand with Israel, I would probably be pissed too.
- 13:18Honestly, I would be in disagreement, you know, tearing my hair out if I had hair.
- 13:24But from my point of view and from a lot of Christian Zionists,
- 13:28it's not that we think Israel is doing the right thing always,
- 13:31but we understand that the only lasting world power is going to be Israel.
- 13:38And to align as closely as possible with them, even though they get us into a whole lot of mess.
- 13:44That we are suffering and our own people are suffering. It comes to that.
- 13:48But really in this world, we haven't seen that. We haven't seen American soldiers dying.
- 13:53We just rescued our two pilots that got shot down over there this past weekend.
- 13:59So we haven't seen those levels. But overall, the good of our own nation and everybody,
- 14:04Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, Dave Smith, everybody out there,
- 14:10they're going to say the exact opposite because they want to disconnect as completely
- 14:15as possible from Israel.
- 14:17They don't want us to be close to them. They don't want to see them as our greatest
- 14:22ally. This is not popular.
- 14:24This is lasting and honestly, a real nuance and perspective that is going to
- 14:31carry us through as the United States to actually survive because Israel survives.
- 14:38Other nations are not going to survive.
- 14:41Other nations are going to crumble and fall. And if we turn our back on Israel,
- 14:45if we do, which we will, and I'm saying this because I can see the writing on
- 14:50the wall, because people in the administration are there now,
- 14:54are not going to be there forever. And I know what's coming down the line that
- 14:56people that support Israel, they're going to be old news and they're going to
- 15:01probably have to go into the byways, the highways or whatever.
- 15:03But I don't care. I care more about standing for truth than standing for what is going to be popular.
- 15:10I don't care about what's popular.
- 15:13God's eye in his hand is going to be with Israel. The United States has been
- 15:17here for 250 years and I'm very thankful.
- 15:20We are probably the greatest nation that's ever been, you know,
- 15:24next probably would be Israel.
- 15:25You know, they haven't full, like the blessing has not been fully unleashed upon them.
- 15:30That will happen when the Jews accept the Messiah.
- 15:34Once the Jews embrace Jesus and it's, it's universal for Israel and the Jews, that will happen.
- 15:42We're not going to, nothing is going to compare to the blessing that they're
- 15:46going to receive and that they will be the dominant power.
- 15:50But I know we're going to go through tribulation and struggle before we get there.
- 15:54Tucker Carlson, his mindset, where he's at on this, this is really decision time.
- 16:00I mean, decision in our own hearts, our outlook as individuals,
- 16:04this is where we're at. Where are we going to stand?
- 16:06But really, that is just for our own peace of mind.
- 16:09Are we going to be at peace and understanding that, you know,
- 16:13whatever happens, that we're okay with it because God's in control? Or are we going.
- 16:19Just fall to oblivion in our own souls and this, this hatred,
- 16:23which is going to turn out for our not well, not our wellbeing.
- 16:27And I just think what Tucker, what Tucker's doing, he's emblematic of like this,
- 16:32this moment in history of turning on Donald Trump when Donald Trump,
- 16:36he's, he's probably doing it for his own purposes, but maybe that God will bring
- 16:40him to his knees to not to be prideful about this, to not accept the praise
- 16:45of being compared to Jesus.
- 16:47I just think they, Donald Trump has been given the call. What is he,
- 16:51what is he going to make? And we're going to see it all played out tonight, today.
- 16:55I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think he's going to be dropping bombs, but I don't know.
- 16:59I, in the sense of like completely obliterating their infrastructure,
- 17:03I don't necessarily see that, but I am not good at making predictions.
- 17:07All right, we'll leave it at that. Let me know what you think.
- 17:10Drop a comment and have a good day.