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A Powerful Conversation About Parenting and Faith · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the city that never sleeps.
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  Speaker 4: It's also Friday. We're going to try to have some fun.
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  Speaker 4: I've got some things I want to talk about that
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  Speaker 4: I'm very excited about. on this day. My little songwriting
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  Speaker 4: collective has come about with something that I want to
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  Speaker 4: give you a little sneak peek of a little bit later.
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  Speaker 4: But I got to tell you, last night I'm sitting
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  Speaker 4: with the family. I'm looking at my phone, which is
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  Speaker 4: probably not a good thing to do in the evenings.
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  Speaker 4: And I just got really angry about something. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: get annoyed. I didn't get politically irritated. I got really, truly, genuinely,
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  Speaker 4: righteously angry. The Cut, which is a part of New
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  Speaker 4: York Magazine, and I don't know how they got into
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  Speaker 4: my social media feed, but evidently they are. But The
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  Speaker 4: Cut published a piece this week called I Regret Having Children.
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  Speaker 4: Three mothers explain why, given the chance to do it
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  Speaker 4: over again, they probably wouldn't. And somewhere in all the
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  Speaker 4: brave honesty and the therapeutic language and the celebration of
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  Speaker 4: women finally saying the unsayable, I kept thinking about somebody
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  Speaker 4: apparently too unimportant to make it into the headline. Their children.
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  Speaker 4: They do know that they can read this someday, right?
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  Speaker 4: One of these mothers has children who are six and three.
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  Speaker 4: Another has a three-year-old son. A third one has a one-year-old.
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  Speaker 4: They have names. They have lives. They love their mothers.
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  Speaker 4: Regardless of whether their mothers love them or not, they
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  Speaker 4: don't know any better. They are attached and love and
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  Speaker 4: need their moms. And someday they're going to know how
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  Speaker 4: to use Google or AI. And imagine the day when
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  Speaker 4: they're 15, 18, 20, 26, 30 years old, and they
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  Speaker 4: find the article. Imagine you being a teenager, sitting alone
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  Speaker 4: in your bedroom and reading that mom told the world
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  Speaker 4: she would have been happier if you had never existed.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me again who's being liberated by this? I want
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  Speaker 4: to be careful about something because it does matter. Some
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  Speaker 4: of these women have suffered. There is postpartum depression here, anxiety,
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  Speaker 4: a traumatic delivery in the stories, sleep deprivation, marital trouble.
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  Speaker 4: One mother describes hallucinations. None of those things are funny.
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  Speaker 4: And they aren't character defects. Women suffering through them need help.
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  Speaker 4: They need husbands who show up. They need families who
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  Speaker 4: rally around them, doctors who listen, and churches and communities
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  Speaker 4: that who are willing to help them carry some weight.
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  Speaker 4: Give them all of that. But somewhere along the way,
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  Speaker 4: our culture made a very bizarre turn. We went from saying,
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  Speaker 4: struggling mothers deserve help, to now saying, motherhood itself might
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  Speaker 4: be the problem. And I'm sick of it. I'm sick
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  Speaker 4: of children being discussed as the obstacle standing between adults
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  Speaker 4: and their authenticity. I'm sick of pregnancy being treated as
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  Speaker 4: a medical problem to be solved. I'm sick of babies
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  Speaker 4: being reduced to economic calculations. I'm sick of hearing that
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  Speaker 4: children destroy careers or freedom or bodies or relationships or
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  Speaker 4: the planet. I'm especially sick of a culture that calls
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  Speaker 4: virtually every adult desire and identity to be affirmed while
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  Speaker 4: treating the most defenseless human beings among us as optional accessories.
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  Speaker 4: whose value depends on whether they interfere with somebody's plans.
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  Speaker 4: Arthur Brooks, the happiness researcher at Harvard, has talked about this.
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  Speaker 4: And here's the interesting thing. He doesn't dispute the premise.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what he said. Childless couples often report more day-to-day enjoyment.
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  Speaker 4: Of course they do. They have more sleep. They eat
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  Speaker 4: at more restaurants. They have more freedom. They finish sentences easier.
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  Speaker 4: But Brooks makes a distinction that the cut completely missed.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoyment isn't the same thing as meaning. Caring for children
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  Speaker 4: can score surprisingly low when people are asked how happy
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  Speaker 4: they are in the moment and extraordinarily high when asked
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  Speaker 4: whether what they are doing has meaning to their life.
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  Speaker 4: So there it is. Children cost you something. That's not
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  Speaker 4: evidence that parenthood failed. That's part of what makes parenthood matter.
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  Speaker 4: Their exhaustion is real. The sleepless nights are real. The
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  Speaker 4: frustration is real. And nobody has to pretend otherwise. But friends,
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  Speaker 4: a baby is utterly unimpressed with your resume. Couldn't care less.
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  Speaker 4: That baby needs you. Completely. Completely. And being needed like
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  Speaker 4: that does something to a human being that a life
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  Speaker 4: optimized entirely around personal enjoyment never can. Brooks has the research.
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  Speaker 4: I've lived it. My children didn't interrupt my life. They
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  Speaker 4: changed what my life was all about. Was it wonderful
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  Speaker 4: at every moment? Get out of here. There were nights
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  Speaker 4: without sleep. Still are. Money worries, vomit, temper tantrums, emergency rooms,
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  Speaker 4: school problems, days when I was exhausted and days when
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  Speaker 4: I was undoubtedly not the father I should have been.
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  Speaker 4: But welcome to parenthood. Nobody promised transcendence every Tuesday afternoon,
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  Speaker 4: but here's what my children never owed me, an apology
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  Speaker 4: for existing. That's the part of the cuts piece that
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  Speaker 4: I can't shake. Adults are allowed complicated feelings. Mothers are
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  Speaker 4: allowed to struggle. Fathers, too. People should be able to
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  Speaker 4: tell a therapist things they've never told another living soul.
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  Speaker 4: But publishing those thoughts for millions of strangers to consume
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  Speaker 4: changes something. Now your child will consume them. And perhaps
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  Speaker 4: that's where a magazine editor should ask a question beyond
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  Speaker 4: whether the story is provocative enough to just generate clicks.
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  Speaker 4: What happens to the children? Because kids hear more than
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  Speaker 4: adults ever think they hear. They wonder whether they're wanted.
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  Speaker 4: They wonder whether they're loved. They wonder whether mom would
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  Speaker 4: be happier without them. Most good parents spend years trying
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  Speaker 4: to make sure children never have to wonder about that.
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  Speaker 4: But now, apparently, because we have to have 24-hour-a-day, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just vulgar voyeurism into every aspect of life, we've apparently
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  Speaker 4: decided putting the answer online is courageous.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 4: Struggling mothers need compassion. They need help. But children need
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  Speaker 4: something too. They need parents who understand that love is
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  Speaker 4: frequently inconvenient. They need adults who are willing to sacrifice
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  Speaker 4: for them. Some of the greatest things you'll ever do
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  Speaker 4: will cost you something. Marriage, faith, aging parents, children. But
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  Speaker 4: they're worth it. Every sleepless night is worth it. Every
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  Speaker 4: changed plan, every dollar sacrificed because one day those little
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  Speaker 4: people become adults and they'll remember who convinced them that
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  Speaker 4: they were loved. But my friend, they can also read
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  Speaker 4: what you wrote. Make sure those two stories match. Please.
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  Speaker 4: It's too important. Kevin McCullough, stick around. Big Friday show.
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  Speaker 4: It's Friday. Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us.
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  Speaker 4: is back with us for our final discussion on this
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  Speaker 4: week-long look at Lamentations 3 and kind of what we've
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  Speaker 4: put in the terminology of Old Testament Israel's version of 9-11. Really,
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  Speaker 4: our 9-11 was probably their equivalent of August 15th. But, Dave,
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  Speaker 4: there's lots of dates that stick in our head. December 7th, 1941. 9-11, 2001.
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  Speaker 4: October the 7th. You just say these dates and they
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  Speaker 4: immediately bring back to people's minds the idea that life
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  Speaker 4: is unpredictable. And that the world has real evil and
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  Speaker 4: that there really is a source of good. And we
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  Speaker 4: we need to tap into that and and latch on
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  Speaker 4: to he who is that source for everything that we've got,
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  Speaker 4: because that's the only the only way out is through him.
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  Speaker 4: And that's that's how we want to be. So what
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  Speaker 4: have we looked at this week? Kind of kind of
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  Speaker 4: bring this home for us.
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  Speaker 10: Thanks so much again for having me, Kevin. It's been
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  Speaker 10: a privilege, especially in the week coming.
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  Speaker 11: Up to 9-11. We have, first of all, the.
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  Speaker 10: Writer, Jeremiah, experiencing a relinquishing of hope, his circumstances, seeing
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  Speaker 10: the city he loved, the temple he loved, and he
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  Speaker 10: was a priest. His dad may very well have been
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  Speaker 10: the high priest. So he's watching the temple that he
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  Speaker 10: loved being ransacked and burnt down.
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  Speaker 11: And he, for a moment, appears to lose.
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  Speaker 10: Hope and say, God, you filled me with bitterness. And
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  Speaker 10: we've talked about this before. You and I aren't going
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  Speaker 10: anywhere tomorrow eating wormwood if we can avoid it. But,
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  Speaker 10: you know, he's talking about that. But then he stops
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  Speaker 10: himself and he makes a choice. He makes a choice
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  Speaker 10: not to remember. his wanderings, not to remember his pain,
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  Speaker 10: but to remember who God is. And when he talks
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  Speaker 10: about who God is and the fact that he calls
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  Speaker 10: to mind that God is one with steadfast love and
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  Speaker 10: that love never ceases and that he's a God of
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  Speaker 10: mercy and that mercy never fails and that it's new
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  Speaker 10: every morning, great is thy faithfulness, his hope is is
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  Speaker 10: restored and and and and that's the the last part
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  Speaker 10: of what we talk he has confidence he is he
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  Speaker 10: has surety he has a hope that is uh indeed
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  Speaker 10: you know sure you know when we think of of
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  Speaker 10: 9-11 and what you said is just so poignant we
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  Speaker 10: we say these dates in in history and um We
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  Speaker 10: can get caught up in the scar they caused. You know,
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  Speaker 10: on my right hand, my index finger, I have a
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  Speaker 10: scar from something happening to me in the fifth grade.
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  Speaker 11: But, you know, it's healed.
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  Speaker 10: And the thing to focus on is not necessarily that
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  Speaker 10: there is a scar, although that's a good reminder, but
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  Speaker 10: that there is healing.
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  Speaker 11: And we know a God who brings healing even.
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  Speaker 11: Very deep pain. Even, uh, 25 years later, I will
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  Speaker 11: go to.
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  Speaker 10: The nine 11 Memorial and, um, it's, it's, it's painful.
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  Speaker 11: It's painful. Uh, it's painful.
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  Speaker 10: And, but there is a God who brings healing, who
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  Speaker 10: fills the hole that is in our heart.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and our, our prayer is that we are able
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  Speaker 4: to capture what Jeremiah is talking here. Um, for many
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  Speaker 4: more things than just the memory of this one painful day,
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  Speaker 4: we have pain all the time. There's things that we
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  Speaker 4: walk through. There's things that someone's walking through right now.
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  Speaker 4: That is every bit as cataclysmic as nine 11 was, uh,
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  Speaker 4: to those who lost loved ones that day now. And
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  Speaker 4: we don't know anything about this person or what they're
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  Speaker 4: dealing with, but they are looking for that hope. They
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  Speaker 4: are looking, uh, they are, they're, they're in desperation maybe
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  Speaker 4: of the idea that maybe that hope doesn't exist. And
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  Speaker 4: they need, they need those of us who know him, uh,
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  Speaker 4: to be living this out so that we can be
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  Speaker 4: the living witness that brings them there.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely, absolutely. And I think what you're saying is just
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  Speaker 11: so true.
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  Speaker 10: And not to trivialize 9-11 in any way, shape, or form,
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  Speaker 10: but for many people, they have experiences that to them is,
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  Speaker 10: you know, it's catastrophic. And where do you find hope
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  Speaker 10: in that? Where do you turn in that? You know,
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  Speaker 10: we've taught people to look to science. We've taught people
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  Speaker 10: to look to politicians and political solutions. We've taught people
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  Speaker 10: to even, you know, rely on friends and family. But
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  Speaker 10: many times all of that, all of that is for
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  Speaker 10: naught because there are no great, perfect, There is one
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  Speaker 10: who is there for us.
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  Speaker 11: There is one who knows what's going on in our hearts.
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  Speaker 11: There is one who has the answers.
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  Speaker 10: And that is the steadfast Lord that we know, that
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  Speaker 10: we love, that we serve.
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  Speaker 11: And, you know, it's important, as you said.
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  Speaker 10: Such that people look at us in the middle of
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  Speaker 10: our difficulties and we're able to give an answer for
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  Speaker 10: the reason for the hope that is in us with
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  Speaker 10: meekness and trembling. It's not us. It's the God we
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  Speaker 10: cling to. It's the God we've run to. And we
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  Speaker 10: know that his mercies are new every morning. We know
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  Speaker 10: that he is faithful. We know that he loves us
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  Speaker 10: with a steadfast love.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and that's one of the reasons, um, It's kind
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  Speaker 4: of interesting that this is all happening on the same day,
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  Speaker 4: but my music group released a song at midnight last
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  Speaker 4: night called Yesterday the Same, and it picks up on
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  Speaker 4: that Hebrews passage and also Psalm 102, where it talks
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  Speaker 4: about how God's love and faithfulness are the same yesterday
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  Speaker 4: and today and tomorrow and forever. And the idea is
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  Speaker 4: whether we acknowledge it or not, whether we are in
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  Speaker 4: alignment with it or not. I talk a lot about
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  Speaker 4: wanting to be in alignment with God's plan and his will.
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  Speaker 4: I talk about that because it's easier than being in
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  Speaker 4: opposition to his plan and his will. When we choose
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  Speaker 4: to align ourselves with the one who made us, we
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  Speaker 4: know that on a deeper level than any other experience
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  Speaker 4: can give us. And I think that there's so many people, Dave,
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  Speaker 4: this week that need that word of hope.
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  Speaker 11: I 100 percent agree.
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  Speaker 10: And if you're if you're listening today and you've you've
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  Speaker 10: never taken that step of and we use terms that
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  Speaker 10: people often don't understand, but giving your heart to the Lord.
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  Speaker 10: recognizing that you and I struggle, we're separated from God
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  Speaker 10: because of our sin, that God sent his son, God
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  Speaker 10: in the flesh, Jesus, to die for that sin and
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  Speaker 10: to rise again, that Jesus took our place and rose again.
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  Speaker 10: And if you or anyone will open their heart to
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  Speaker 10: what God has provided, if you will open your heart,
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  Speaker 10: believe what he has done for you is true, and
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  Speaker 10: then rely on that, trust in that. Take your faith
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  Speaker 10: off of your sacraments or your religiosity or whatever your
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  Speaker 10: faith is in and place it in God's provision for
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  Speaker 10: our salvation.
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  Speaker 11: Christ lives. and Christ alone.
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  Speaker 10: Understanding that that comes out of God's steadfast love.
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  Speaker 11: For you and I.
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  Speaker 12: Will be different you will have hope it won't be
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  Speaker 12: it won't be an easy life necessarily your problems won't
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  Speaker 12: go away but like jeremiah uh you'll be able to
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  Speaker 12: say the steadfast love of the lord never ceases mercies
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  Speaker 12: never come to an end they're new every morning great
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  Speaker 12: is your faithfulness.
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  Speaker 4: And you can count on it you can take it
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  Speaker 4: to the bank tomorrow and the day after um Jesus
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  Speaker 4: is not changing. He's not leaving. Everyone else in life
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  Speaker 4: might leave there. You might not even be able to
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  Speaker 4: get your kitten to be loyal to you. Like, and
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  Speaker 4: kittens are pretty loyal. I'm just saying this because we
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  Speaker 4: have new kittens in the house, but it's like, we
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  Speaker 4: don't have to worry about, about what Jesus has said.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, maybe it's sacraments and maybe it's religiosity, or
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's just anger and frustration that you're holding onto
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  Speaker 4: and blaming Jesus. God or other people for what you've experienced.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe those are legitimate gripes and angers. But I
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  Speaker 4: will tell you that God's big enough to handle it.
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  Speaker 4: There is, there is no sin. There is no path.
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  Speaker 4: There is no frustration. There is no desperation. There is
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  Speaker 4: nothing that is too big that he can't overcome on
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  Speaker 4: your behalf. And he has, and he wants you to
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  Speaker 4: know his peace today. Dave Watson, real quickly, this Sunday,
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  Speaker 4: what are you teaching on at Calvary Chapel Staten Island?
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  Speaker 10: We'll be in the book of 1 John, chapter verse
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  Speaker 10: 5 through 2 chapter to the second chapter the second
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  Speaker 10: verse we're going to be talking about really the benefits
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  Speaker 10: of our relationship with God and how to keep those
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  Speaker 10: benefits going how to enjoy them every single day and.
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  Speaker 4: If you can't get there in person listen online at
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  Speaker 4: at what time exactly Dave?
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  Speaker 10: 1130 Eastern Standard Time. We're on from 1130 to, believe
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  Speaker 10: it or not, 1240. You get an hour and 10
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  Speaker 10: minutes of us.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and it's having been there and worshipped with Calvary
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  Speaker 4: Chapel several times, I strongly, strongly encourage you to check
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  Speaker 4: it out. Dave Watson, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you so much, Kevin. God bless you. Have a
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  Speaker 11: great rest of the week.
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  Speaker 4: Same. Kevin McCullough coming right back.
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  Speaker 8: From New York. Stick around for more of That Kevin.
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  Speaker 8: Here he is, from New York, That Kevin. Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome back to Times Square. It's Kevin McCullough, That Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 8: You know, sometimes I put the headlines down and I
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  Speaker 8: don't talk about the news for a couple of seconds
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  Speaker 8: because sometimes there's more interesting things to talk about or
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  Speaker 8: people to talk to.
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  Speaker 4: My next guest fits that category. You may know her
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: as DJ... You may know her as the big sister
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: you always wanted. You may know her as someone who
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: was on Dancing with the Stars or is going to
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: be in Fox's next Special Forces outfit. But her name
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: is Candace Cameron Bure. And she has to be the
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: happiest person in America. Most days, if you just see
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: her smile, you're just thinking, how can she do that
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: all the time? Like there's something weird about that. Candace,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: like knock it off. Give us a frown. At least
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: every now and then.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to be known for something. A smile is
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: a pretty good thing.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: That's not, well, there's many worse things. Let's put it
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: that way.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I have, I have a little bit of an ax
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: to grind. Uh, Kirk's been on my show several times.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Your daughter.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Wonderful.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Has been on my show at least once. Um, you've
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: avoided me until now. Successfully. But if they were to
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: give me a clue as to something I shouldn't ask
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: you about, what would it have been?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: There's nothing you could ask me that would bother me.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I've been asked everything.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Well, okay. There you go. Fair enough.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: And I haven't been avoiding you. I don't know why
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I haven't been on your show, but I'm going to
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: talk to my public.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I know why exactly. You've been making about 153 gazillion
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Christmas movies over the years. And I'm pretty sure that
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: the math on that doesn't even fit the calendar, so
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I don't even know how you do that. By the way,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I've been dying to ask you this. Are you familiar
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: with a group called the Holderness Family?
• 22:50
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Okay. Have you seen their spoofs of your Christmas movies?
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I think I have.
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 22:56
  Speaker 14: I think I have.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: If you haven't, you have to go on their YouTube
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: channel and see it. It's classic, but I think you'll
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: appreciate it for all the right reasons. The reason you're
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: talking to us is you've got a brand new tour
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: that's about to kick off, and we're excited about it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Last year you sold out, and I'm wondering what happened
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: in the room that made you think, hey, we need
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: to do this again and make deeper connections and that
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: sort of thing. What was the secret sauce last year?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I think it was just the gathering of a bunch
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: of really wonderful, great women that were eager to listen,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: have fun. You know, it's an edifying night, but it's
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: a fun night. And I love connecting with people. It's
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: kind of why I'm taking a show on the road.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Everyone has seen me on television or they listen to
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: me on my podcast and, and it's, A lot of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you feel like you know me, but I don't really
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: get to know you guys being behind the camera. So
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I wanted to take a show on the road. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: it's a little bit like my podcast live. And I
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: just love meeting people. And I love interacting with people.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: So it's bringing people up on stage, talking to people,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: getting to know and then sharing my heart, my faith.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: But also I have my guest, Dr. Tabitha, we're going
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to be talking about women's health and You know, I
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: turned 50 years old this year. So I just want
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: to learn all of the things that can better my
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: life and make me healthier and the things that have
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: worked and haven't worked. And that's what the whole night
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: is really about, just sharing.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: That's cool. Well, my own bride has said she wants
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: to get to one of them if she can. So
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: we're going to see what we can do about that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I hope she does.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: You promised that audiences are in for something more, I
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: don't know, personal than the Candace they know on TV
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: or social media. How do you pull that off in
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: a two-hour large room setting?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what was written exactly. I'm a
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: pretty open book, even on social media. What you see
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: is what you get. But it's really the connection. To me,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it's the connection with people that is making all the difference.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I loved doing the shows last year so much. I
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: did it as a trial. There were four cities that
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: we went to. I didn't know if I was going
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: to love bus life and how it would turn out.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: But you know what? So many people showed up. We
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: had such a great time. So without a heartbeat, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: was like, let's extend the tour and hit some new cities.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: So we're doing eight cities this year, starting September 9th
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: through September 19th and kind of taking a tour from Reading, Pennsylvania, Dayton, Ohio,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Pinley Park, kind of Chicago, Illinois, Minneapolis. We are in
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Kansas City. We're in Missouri. In Grand Prairie, Texas and Austin, Texas.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: You are covering some ground in 10 days.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Are you sure you can do all that on a bus?
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Because that seems like especially the Minnesota Grand Prairie thing,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: that seems a long way away.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them is a pretty long drive.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Is there something about your story that you can tell
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: differently in that setting that you can't like that doesn't
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: come across through a camera or a screen?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I think you can, for me, there's definitely a vulnerability
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: when you're in front of people face to face. And
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: when you're hearing people, whether they're nodding or they're saying yes,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: or they're clapping or they're oohing or aahing, whatever it is,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: it's a whole different feeling for me that allows me
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: to be my most vulnerable self. that I don't get
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: when I'm just in front of a camera looking at
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the camera on my computer, you know, on a Zoom call.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Do you sense that that vulnerability, and in essence, I'm
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: guessing that leads to maybe what we would think of
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: as authenticity, but do you think that that's missing in
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: women's lives today to the degree that they wish they
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: had more of it? Not because they're doing anything wrong,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: but just because life has everybody going a thousand miles
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: an hour with their hair on fire.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Community is so important. It's so important that we
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: connect with one another. And you're right, like life is very,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: very busy and it's easy to lose that. And so
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: this is I mean, it's a it's a way to
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: have a connection and have a good night out. And,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I think that the show in and of itself,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: because I'm a woman of faith and it's rooted in faith.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: that's the biggest difference in my life. Like I'm going
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to share my heart, but you, I'm not going to
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: do put on a show without sharing the gospel. That's
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: just who I am. And, um, and I'm unashamed of everybody.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Listening and watching. That's actually how we're Christians live at
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: all the time. So I know it's crazy for you
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: to hear someone say that out loud, but it's like,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: it's actually what we believe. So it's supposed to kind
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: of work that way.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to put on a show without sharing
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the gospel. That's just who I am.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Candice.com backslash tour for the tour. Candice.com backslash tour, Candice.com.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: You've always been one that's been a little on the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: ambitious side. I don't even know how many Christmas movies
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: you've made, but I know it's a lot, but In
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: one night, you try to bring together faith, family, fitness,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: and health. You only got two hours, Candice. How do
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: you bite off all of that?
• 28:46
  Speaker 14: Oh, we do it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: We pull it off. We have all the things, even
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: add nostalgia in there, too.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Do you think that you can talk about any one
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: of those things without touching on the others? I mean,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: you've already kind of said that faith runs through everything,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: but emotional health and health. I consider like rest and
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: getting enough sleep and some of those types of things
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: in that category, because if you live exhausted all the time,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: you don't have any bandwidth for anybody else.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: But like, you can't be spiritually who God has made
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: you to be if you're not physically caring for the
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: temple on some level. And then, you know, I'm 56
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: and I'm thinking about my fitness now in ways I
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: didn't for a long, long time. It's just, it's just
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: a different stage of life. I think it's very ambitious,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: but I congratulate you on it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Well, thanks. They're all tied together. My guest who is
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: there for all the shows, Dr. Tabitha, she's a triple
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: board certified doctor. and also moved into functional health coaching.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: And she too is a Christian. So everything is synergetic
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: and that it's taking care of mind, body and soul.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: So that's why all those conversations really do work and
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: can't work well without one, without the other.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Well, we talk about it sometimes. I do some specialty
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: niche hours in the show throughout the week. And we
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: do stuff on health weekly because I feel like a
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Christian needs to be strong in that area in order
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: to be effective in the other areas. But we talk
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: about the triad a lot and the mind, body, and soul.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Like it's God made all those components of us. But
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: sometimes we think we're supposed to overfeed one to kind
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: of the starvation of the others. And I'm not sure
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: that that's what he ever intended.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either. So we've got some good experts.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: That sounds like a lovely night. I'm sure every guy
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: listening tonight is going, oh, I wish we could be there. No,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: this is for the ladies, guys. You just have to
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: give them that. Your new book.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: You're welcome to come.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Your newest book is called Wild Hope. Wild Hope. You've
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: talked about this in your latest book. The culture uses
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: the word hope kind of casually. And I don't even
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: know if they really think about what they mean when
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: they say, you know, there's hope or have hope or whatever.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: I think Christians approach it differently. Christian hope is supposed
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: to be able to help us survive disappointment, deal with
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: unanswered prayer, et cetera. I'm curious because I haven't read
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the book, but what makes hope wild in your context?
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about there?
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, because God is mind blowing. And in the terms
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: that he's God, it's not, he provides a hope for
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: all of us that supersedes everything in life. And so
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like Hope is like oxygen. You can't really
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: live without it. It's what helps you take the next
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: step when circumstances are really difficult. Like we live to
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: have hope, but the true source of hope comes from Jesus.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: And through the Holy Spirit who's been given to us,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: there's so many great verses on hope in the Bible
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: that are the foundation. The foundation of it is that
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it comes from God. And so this is a 30
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: day devotional that you can do that is also interactive
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: and spend 10 minutes a day walking through where God
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: shows us hope in our lives and the scripture that
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: supports it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that for sure. All right. Quick follow up
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: your next project. You're going to go be special forces
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: up for Fox. This is at the end of the month.
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Are you excited? I worked with Stephen Baldwin for about
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: nine years, about a decade and a half ago. And
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: he was just in his part of his career where
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: he was doing all the reality stuff all the time.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: And he he was showing me it's really hard work
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes. You got to get fit. You got
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: to do the stuff that you got to do. What's
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: the experience like for you? Because you've done dancing and
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: now you're doing this. I think you've maybe done another project.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: What's it like?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really it. I get asked to do all
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the reality shows. I've pretty much said no to all
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: of them except Dancing with the Stars. And I did
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: one of the Masked Singer because I thought that was fun, too.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: But this is the third one I've said yes to
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: in my life.
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: And.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Special Forces is the world's toughest challenge. You are training
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: with the Navy SEALs. And it is just a small
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: portion of what they do every single day. So I
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: kind of had two motives. One was to be able
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: to have this experience. I'm such a supporter of our
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: country and our military. I have such gratitude for all
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: the people that fight for us on a daily basis,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: past and present. So to be able to have this experience...
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and know some of the training that they go through
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: to protect us, that was like a yes for me.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: And the other part is having turned 50 this year,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I am going into.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: You keep saying that, but I know people are watching going,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: that can't be true. Like, she doesn't look a day
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: over 28. Like, how's that even possible?
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: Well, thanks.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Thanks. I.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I live my life to the fullest and I feel
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: like I'm in the best shape of my life at 50.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I kind of kept up my fitness game a year
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: and a half ago because now is the time. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: want to set myself up in the best way so
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: that when I'm 70 or 80, if I get to
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: live to 90... You know that I can that I
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: can hang in there that I can open up the
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: peanut butter jar by myself. Like you want to be
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: able to do those things and get out of the chair.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: So like I am or I've been working really hard
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: to set myself up for success for longevity. And so
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I thought this is another great opportunity where I get
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: to go out and just see if I have what
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: it takes physically and mentally to And it has been
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest experiences of my life. Incredibly challenging,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: which I knew it would be, but probably even harder
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: than I thought. And I knew it was going to
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: be really hard.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Is all the filming for that season completed? Have you
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: completed the show?
• 34:54
  Speaker 14: It is.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Okay. So then you've already exercised it. But I was
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: going to say, you know, a free trainer. It's a
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: huge thing these days. Big time. Candice Cameron Bure. You
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: want to know more, you go to Candice.com backslash tour
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: for the tour.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Candice.com.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Candice.com backslash tour. Candice.com. And don't get her confused for
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the other Candice. We don't want to mess with that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: This is Candice. Can't be Candice.com backslash tour. Candice Cameron Bray.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Thanks for being with us.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Kevin.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: Stick around for more of That Kevin next. Serving it
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: up with a no-drink minimum. It's That Kevin Show.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Welcome back, it's that Kevin show. So glad to have
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: you with us and so excited because at midnight last night,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: my little songwriting collective, which now has 36 people that
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: contribute to nearly everything that we do, musicians, writers, advisors, vocalists, etc.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: We released the first song off of a new worship
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: project and it's based on Psalm 102 and Hebrews 13.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: that the God who loves us today is unchanging. He's yesterday,
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: the same today, tomorrow, forever.
• 36:44
  Speaker 15: We wrote a.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Little song about it. It was something like this.
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: The valleys know, the rivers dance, the oceans answer. Every
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: living thing was made to show.
• 37:06
  Speaker 16: The birds awaken every morning.
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: The stars keep watch throughout the night.
• 37:16
  Speaker 14: There's your glory.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Everything.
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  Speaker 15: Jesus.
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: Worship Christ the King Worship Christ the King Even stones
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  Speaker 9: would shout your praises If our voices should grow still
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: Creature knows its maker. Growing to galaxies beyond our sight.
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: All creation finds its purpose.
• 38:39
  Speaker 15: Lifting up the Lord of light.
• 38:43
  Speaker 14: Every heart declare.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: It.
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: Every voice proclaim. Jesus, you are worthy. Yesterday the same.
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: Earth keeps singing.
• 39:10
  Speaker 15: Like the heavens ring Everything with breath.
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: Alive Worship Christ the King If we are silent The
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: rocks will cry If we don't praise you Creation will rise.
• 39:33
  Speaker 17: No other savior. No other name. No one is worthy forever.
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  Speaker 9: Worship Christ the King. Worship Christ the King.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yesterday, the same. We just released that at midnight last night.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: And the vocals there of Allison Taylor and Jay Lorman.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Words and music by yours truly. And we're just super excited.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: We'll see you next time.
• 40:42
  Speaker 15: Ten, three, eight.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the city that never sleeps.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Salem Media.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Is a man also not sleeping.
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: Syndicated radio talk show host, Kevin McCullough.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: And that guy would like a word with you. Many
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: of you know him.
• 41:04
  Speaker 11: Of course that Kevin show is going to be great.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: The only thing that could.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Be greater, of course, would be that Donald show.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: But we don't have that, so we have that Kevin show.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Featuring the music of Dick Tunney and the Dream in
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Color Orchestra. Straight ahead, everything you need to know about
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: the top headlines of the day and a perspective that
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: will give you some eternity to it, plus practical tips
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: for family life, spiritual life, and.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Good old regular life.
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  Speaker 5: It's Kevin McCullough, Monday through Friday, on That Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 5: And now, from the Connors & Sullivan Broadcast Studios, the
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  Speaker 5: man who is not what he wants to be, but
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: is way grateful that he's not who he used to.
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  Speaker 1: Be, here's The Kevin!
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  Speaker 13: Welcome back to Times Square, Kevin McCullough, That Kevin Show,
• 42:12
  Speaker 13: the brand new ThatKevinShow.com, go check it out.
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  Speaker 4: Just launched a couple of days ago, and so thankful
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: for my Salem crew and all the ways they improved
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: that and have made it so much more user friendly.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: And it's really a beautiful site. You got to go
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: check it out. That Kevin show.com. I'm also very grateful
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: for the opportunity to talk to people that are trying
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: to make a difference in the world around us. And
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  Speaker 4: Erica Donald's on a couple of different levels, uh, is
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: always trying to do that first. She's a mom trying
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  Speaker 4: to be a good influence on kids that, uh, God
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: has given her to steward. But beyond that, her passion
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: to work with, um, educational processes across the country. And
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: to really make a difference in that regard is something
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  Speaker 4: that we're really grateful. She is the founder of the
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  Speaker 4: Education Freedom Foundation, and she's also the chairman of Optima Ed.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: And she rejoins us here. I'm hoping that she will
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: be the next first lady of Florida. Erica, great to
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: see you. Thanks for coming on board.
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  Speaker 14: Thanks so much for having me, Kevin. It's always good
• 43:07
  Speaker 14: to talk to you.
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  Speaker 4: Recently, the Wall Street Journal highlighted some stuff about parents'
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: rights in the coming school year. And I think it's
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: always good to do a refresher, particularly now that school
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: is pretty much back in session across the country. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: guess there's a handful of places that may still start
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: after Labor Day, but ours is already back. And I
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: know people that have had theirs back for almost a
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: month now. So it's like, whatever. But in public school
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: in particular, We saw, particularly in Maryland a couple of
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: years ago, a school district try to really shut out
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: parents from having specific rights about what their kids were
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: exposed to and how they were allowed to participate or
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: not participate in that. Can we do a little refresher
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: on what parents should be thinking about at this point
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: in the school season?
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, it's crazy sometimes to think about, you know, 10
• 43:56
  Speaker 18: years ago, what parents thought their rights were versus what
• 44:00
  Speaker 18: was taken away in that amount of time. Schools were
• 44:03
  Speaker 18: keeping secrets from parents when they were socially transitioning children
• 44:07
  Speaker 18: and sometimes even medically transitioning children away from their assigned gender.
• 44:12
  Speaker 18: They were presenting to them controversial material that parents didn't want,
• 44:18
  Speaker 18: whether that was about radical gender ideology or left wing causes.
• 44:24
  Speaker 18: And the Supreme Court had to step in and say, no, no,
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  Speaker 18: parents do have a right to opt their children out
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  Speaker 18: if it is a controversial subject that is against their
• 44:33
  Speaker 18: religion or in what we believe against their value system
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  Speaker 18: at home.
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: It doesn't necessarily even have to be a religious belief.
• 44:41
  Speaker 18: So we want to make sure that parents know they
• 44:44
  Speaker 18: have the right to not only see the materials, to
• 44:48
  Speaker 18: know what's going on with their children in school, to
• 44:51
  Speaker 18: have the transparency of what's within their student records, if
• 44:54
  Speaker 18: that has to do with their children's health. And they
• 44:56
  Speaker 18: need to exert that authority when it comes to whether
• 44:59
  Speaker 18: it's a public school or a private school. Parents need
• 45:02
  Speaker 18: to know their rights and be able to activate them.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I think in the private school scenario, you've
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: got the obviously like 10,000 bully club that you can
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: hold over their head. I'll pull my kid out and
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: take away their tuition. But public school plays kind of
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: below the belt these days. I mean, they punch down
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: a lot of times on parents that they think are
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: just too dumb to know anything. really what the rules are.
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  Speaker 17: Yes.
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  Speaker 14: And we saw that.
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  Speaker 18: I saw it when I was a school board member
• 45:30
  Speaker 18: and even before then, where the public school system does
• 45:34
  Speaker 18: not feel the need to be as responsive to parent
• 45:37
  Speaker 18: concerns because they have a monopoly and a captured audience. Parents,
• 45:42
  Speaker 18: by threat of law, must send their children starting at
• 45:45
  Speaker 18: the age of six in most states to to a
• 45:48
  Speaker 18: school for seven hours a day that may not comport
• 45:53
  Speaker 18: with their value system at home. And in addition to that,
• 45:56
  Speaker 18: because of that threat of law and because of that monopoly,
• 45:59
  Speaker 18: the school has this captured audience where at times union
• 46:04
  Speaker 18: members and union influences are pushing down left-wing ideology in
• 46:09
  Speaker 18: these classrooms and parents feel trapped and unable to do
• 46:12
  Speaker 18: anything about it if they even know what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and I think that what happened You mentioned
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: the last 10 years, but I think this little thing
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: called COVID and at-home learning through the virtual Zooms, I think,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: opened a lot of parents' eyes. But we're starting to
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: move out of that cycle pretty firmly now. have parents
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: stayed awake from your perspective or are we in danger
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: of kind of falling back to sleep again?
• 46:38
  Speaker 14: Parents are awake. They can't unsee what they saw during COVID.
• 46:42
  Speaker 18: That is why homeschooling has doubled since COVID in the
• 46:47
  Speaker 18: past five years. And another 7%, so homeschooling right now
• 46:51
  Speaker 18: is at 7% of the population. Another 7% say that
• 46:55
  Speaker 18: they would homeschool if they had the capability to. Microschools
• 47:00
  Speaker 18: are the fastest growing segment.
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: Of of in-person education.
• 47:04
  Speaker 18: You see states like Florida, Arizona, Arkansas, and now Texas
• 47:09
  Speaker 18: with the largest day one school choice program in history
• 47:13
  Speaker 18: of the country. Every legislative session that happens every year,
• 47:17
  Speaker 18: school choice is expanded across this nation. And now we
• 47:20
  Speaker 18: have the federal tax credit scholarship starting in 2027.
• 47:24
  Speaker 14: This cannot be undone.
• 47:26
  Speaker 18: Districts are losing students and in a massive way across
• 47:30
  Speaker 18: the country, whether these families have school choice or not.
• 47:34
  Speaker 18: So parents are awake. It's not going backwards. It's going forwards.
• 47:38
  Speaker 18: The system and the bureaucracy needs to wake up and
• 47:42
  Speaker 18: start meeting the needs of children and families and expand
• 47:45
  Speaker 18: school choice as much as possible.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Well, increasingly, the schools are moving to Chromebooks for the kids.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: And there's a lot of stuff that is done through
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: portals and online access. Should parents... be demanding accounts for–
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: because in our situation, our kids all do have accounts,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: but we have access to all their accounts. We can
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: see every assignment that's assigned. We can see all of
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: the materials that they are– and it's a public school.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: It's pretty amazing that we have that level of just
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: instant access and transparency. But I don't know that parents
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: not thinking about these things would naturally know that they
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: should be.
• 48:26
  Speaker 14: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 18: If your child has a login to any, whether it's
• 48:30
  Speaker 18: a portal or an application, you should be able to
• 48:33
  Speaker 18: log in and see exactly what your children see. Whether
• 48:37
  Speaker 18: that means you have access to their account or a
• 48:39
  Speaker 18: parent account that mirrors the child's account. That is important.
• 48:44
  Speaker 18: absolutely full stop must happen. If I had students in
• 48:48
  Speaker 18: schools that were using that type of technology, I would
• 48:51
  Speaker 18: demand my child cannot use a piece of technology that
• 48:55
  Speaker 18: I cannot log in and access, especially with artificial intelligence.
• 49:00
  Speaker 18: And you know, I am a proponent of some of
• 49:03
  Speaker 18: the tools that are really being effective in helping students
• 49:05
  Speaker 18: learn phonics and math and grammar. However, There must be
• 49:11
  Speaker 18: transparency for parents when it comes to these generative tools,
• 49:16
  Speaker 18: because what each child is.
• 49:18
  Speaker 14: Seeing could be different. It's not one size fits all.
• 49:22
  Speaker 18: That's a good thing when it comes to personalized education.
• 49:25
  Speaker 18: Not great if parents don't have direct access to those portals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate everything that you're doing. And I'm suspecting
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: that if when because I'm assuming it's an if when
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: not if if but if when you are the first
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: lady of Florida. that there will be even a greater
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: emphasis in that state on a lot of these things
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: pushing forward, not to mention your great work with charter
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: schools and how you're still encouraging people to investigate getting
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: those going. By the way, friends, if you want to
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: know more about that, Erica's organization has figured out the
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: whole system. They've got like the cheat sheet on how
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: to do it. And if people want information on that, Erica,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: where do they where they contacted?
• 50:03
  Speaker 18: It's the Education Freedom Foundation at YourEdFreedom.org. And we can
• 50:08
  Speaker 18: help start charter schools, private schools, micro schools, homeschool co-ops,
• 50:12
  Speaker 18: any type of education program that you want to start.
• 50:15
  Speaker 18: We can help with YourEdFreedom.org. And it is completely free.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: YourEdFreedom.org. YourEdFreedom.org. Go and do that. All right. Erica, always
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: appreciate it. Thanks for all that you're doing.
• 50:29
  Speaker 14: Thanks, Kevin.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: You got it. Kevin McCullough coming right back from Times
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I mean, Kevin, I've been there. I've seen,
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  Speaker 7: A lot of times I have to have somebody translate.
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• 52:38
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• 52:41
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• 52:44
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• 52:46
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• 52:49
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• 52:51
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• 52:53
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• 52:56
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• 52:58
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• 53:00
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• 53:04
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• 53:07
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• 53:28
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• 53:31
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• 53:33
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• 53:37
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• 53:40
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• 53:43
  Speaker 7: When you hear of hardships and suffering, Christians being persecuted
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: because they bear the name of Christ or being forced
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: out of their native countries into refugee camps, like the
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: story I'll share next, it's easy to feel empathy for Christians.
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: But to take that a step further is what we're
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: praying happens today and that we can fill the need for, again,
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: just north of 10,000 Bibles needed around the world. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: want to take you to Malawi, Africa. The story may
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: sound familiar. I've shared this before. I do this in
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: this hour by way of an update. And Kevin, Africa
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: has the highest number of refugees in the world. There's
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: about 50 million people displaced from their countries, likely to
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: never return, right? And they end up in camps like
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: the Zalika refugee camp in Malawi. There's about 60,000 people
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: packed into a place made for about 10,000 There's a
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: terrible stench in this place because there's poor sanitation. People
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: get sick. They die. There's people groups that absolutely hate
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: each other. They've got them mixed into this place. There
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: have been assaults, rapes, even murders. I saw a documentary
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: on this. I think it was BBC that did this
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: not too long ago. And it showed the chaos that
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: defines the Zalika refugee camp, right? But there was a pastor,
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: a group of pastors in that area that said, you know,
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: we've got to take the hope of the gospel into
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: this place. They began to work with Bible League. And Kevin,
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: without any charge, we've made available Bible studies, our Project
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: Phillips study. We give a name and a face to
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: our global ministry, our strategy, and that is a weekly
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: Bible study. People gather maybe one-on-one to begin, and then
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: they're pulled into a group study. There may be 20
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: or 40 people gathering at a time, again, to explore
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: who is Jesus? How is He both God and man?
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: What's it mean to die to self and to put
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: on Christ in the day-to-day? So, This group began to
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: work with us. We provided Bible studies in Karundi, Swahili,
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: and French, three of the most prominent languages spoken in
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: the Zalika refugee camp. Kevin, there have been 50 Bible
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: studies started, some of those exclusive to men, some exclusive
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: to women, normally about 40 in number. I can tell
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: you today, by the grace of God and the gumption
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: of these local churches going in and dealing with the
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: chaos of the Zalika refugee camp, what I reported before
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: was about 1,000 people have said yes to Jesus, but
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: the gospel continues to roll forward. And what I'm telling
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: you today is there's another 500 believers who have come
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: to Christ in the last few months. Yeah, praise God
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: for that, right? But one of the pastors, one of
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: our partners, a dear man by the name of Greer,
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: I've met him, Kevin, has this simple request on behalf
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: of the children that they're serving in the Zalika refugee camp.
• 56:26
  Speaker 16: Into our church we have more than 100 children, but
• 56:29
  Speaker 16: because of lack of materials, other children really they want
• 56:34
  Speaker 16: to be taught. Unfortunately, there are no more books or materials.
• 56:39
  Speaker 16: So we are going to ask Bible League International if
• 56:43
  Speaker 16: it can be possible to send us most of materials
• 56:47
  Speaker 16: which can be helpful to our children. Thanks so much
• 56:51
  Speaker 16: and God bless you.
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a humble request. Kevin, notice what he's not praying for.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: He's not praying for a change in circumstances for those
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: that find themselves in that camp. You know, many for them,
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: you know, their futures are uncertain. I can think of
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: a woman by the name of Miriam. Her husband died
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: in that camp, leaving her a widow with three children,
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: ages three, five and seven. No one knows really what
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: her future is, where she'll end up. She's a native
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: of Burundi, Africa. But what she's praying for today is what?
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: It's the precious word of God is in the Karundi language.
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: She's a new believer. She's among those in the second
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: wave of 500 that have said yes to Jesus. Kevin,
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: I don't always wake up, wonder what is God doing
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: in this, you know, refugee camp half a world away
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: in Malawi, Africa. But he is not forgotten. And from
• 57:38
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• 57:41
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• 59:07
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• 59:16
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• 59:22
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• 59:23
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• 59:27
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• 59:33
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• 59:37
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  Speaker 4: Kevin mckella it is the friday edition and as i
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  Speaker 4: you know mentioned in the monologue early in the show
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  Speaker 4: um i really got irritated last night when the uh
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  Speaker 4: the cut.com which is a part of i think new
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  Speaker 4: york magazine um and for some reason they are in
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  Speaker 4: my They are in my Instagram feed. So whatever it is,
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  Speaker 4: I must have liked something that they had in there
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  Speaker 4: once or read it or something. And so now I
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  Speaker 4: get their articles fed to my feed. But the title
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  Speaker 4: didn't read the full article. I read the part that
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  Speaker 4: didn't sit well. Bethany Mandel was one of those that
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  Speaker 4: I reached out to last night. Bethany, because first of all,
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  Speaker 4: it's a weird time to publish a piece like this,
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  Speaker 4: given that we can't seem to even have clarity on
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  Speaker 4: the Lindsay Clancy trial, which is literally a mom who said,
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  Speaker 4: I regret having kids to the degree that she killed them.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, do we really need this? Like, Even
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  Speaker 4: if there are moms who feel this way and who
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  Speaker 4: feel very overwhelmed, I want to be compassionate about what
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  Speaker 4: pregnancy does to a woman. My blessed bride has had three,
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  Speaker 4: and she did not have the easiest of times after delivery.
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  Speaker 4: And for a good while, life gets really hard, excruciating,
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  Speaker 4: in fact. But I feel like that the meaning that
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  Speaker 4: is recovered through being parents and through raising kids kind
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  Speaker 4: of sometimes disappears. outpaces the convenience of it. And I
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  Speaker 4: think that as a society, we are just losing sight
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  Speaker 4: of that altogether. Am I completely out to lunch here?
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  Speaker 2: You are not even close to, you're in the same ballpark.
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  Speaker 2: So you probably have New York Mag in your feed
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  Speaker 2: because you've rage commented on something.
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  Speaker 11: Else of theirs.
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  Speaker 2: Because this is all they produce is this anti-natalist, anti-kid, anti-family,
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  Speaker 2: anti-tradition rage bait. And this is something that they've published
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  Speaker 2: a million times. And this is actually the perfect time
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  Speaker 2: for them to post something like this because Lindsay Clancy
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  Speaker 2: is the end result of their ideology.
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  Speaker 4: She's the cover girl for their cause.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, 100 percent.
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  Speaker 2: And what's creepy is from their perspective. women should not
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  Speaker 2: have children it holds us back it makes us crazy
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  Speaker 2: and we can't be held responsible for what we do
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: at the end of it and so yes she probably
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: you know shouldn't have done this but you know who
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  Speaker 2: among us who among us that's that's their response to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: lindsey clancy they throw up their hands and say who
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  Speaker 2: among us and the rest of us normies out here
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  Speaker 2: are like um me i i've never wanted to.
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  Speaker 7: I'm good.
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  Speaker 11: I've never felt that way.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't want to give, I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: let the cut off the hook by focusing on Lindsay
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  Speaker 4: because we've covered her in detail. Here's, here's the problem
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  Speaker 4: that I have with it. Even if you can do
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: a case study and find three or four women that
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: all kind of fall in the same category of having
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: regrets about being mother and the, and the, the cover
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: girl that they use, the actual cover girl in this story, um,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: she and her husband have only two kids. Um, and
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: it's all about their lack of being able to just
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: go swimming whenever they want to, or going off to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: some trip whenever they want to at, with their kids
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: at three months and like a year and a half
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: or something like that. And I'm kind of like, you
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: haven't even begun to understand the point of what it
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: was to become a parent. But I ran across this
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: thing from Arthur Brooks, who I also follow on social media.
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  Speaker 4: And he's a really interesting read. I don't know anything
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: about his faith perspective, but, But what he says about
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: marriage is really always, always, to me, seems spot on.
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  Speaker 4: And he has a thing about being a parent. And
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: he says there's kind of three cycles to this, where
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: in the early stages, is it convenient? Is it satisfying?
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  Speaker 4: Is it meaningful? And if you study your years of parenting,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: you go through different cycles of that. I think it's
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: especially unhelpful to have this type of stuff being published
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: out there when what they really need are some solutions
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: as to how to survive it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but these are people who don't want solutions.
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  Speaker 2: These are people who want to feel good about their
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: decision not to have children. They're fishing for excuses and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: they love people like this who say, I regret, because
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: then it makes them feel like they won't regret not
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: having kids. The market for this is not really parents.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: It's people who are on the fence who, I'm just
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: going to be honest, are lazy people. I'm not saying
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: they're that every person who is child-free is lazy, far
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: from it. I think there's a lot of people out
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: there who should not have children. Lindsay Clancy is a
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: case in point. But there's a lot of people who
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: are thinking about it, but like, God, that seems like
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of work. These are the people for whom
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: this kind of piece is written. And it's really sad
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: because they have been raised all through their lives to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: avoid hard things. team a week into the soccer season
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: and they're missing out on that on that end product
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: that is so worthwhile yeah you just have like I'm
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: not a fan of the baby years I'm not a
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: fan of even the early toddler years but like I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: can say on the end of like my oldest is
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: almost 13 I love 13 I love 11 I love
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: 7 I love 9 I love 3 I love 5
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: it's amazing but it it does require a front end effort.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah No, you're going to lock it down for at
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: least a couple of years until those biggest hurdles are covered.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: And hopefully you have– this is why we need two-parent households.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: Hopefully you have a father in the house that is
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: lending some help as well. Though my bride said last night, look–
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: You go out and make all the money. I'm fine
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: with that. I will take care of them. I just
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: don't want to have to worry about paying the bills.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: And that's not every woman's approach, but I understand it.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: But even in all the work, we still want to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: come back and help and do what we can when
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: we're able to. Yeah, for sure. I just think that
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: I just think that nothing in society is served by
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: by endlessly navel gazing and saying, oh, what if my
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: life had not had these kids? And to say it
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: out loud and to put it into print. And here's
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: the thing that really will be my final thought. someday
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: these kids are going to read what their mom said
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: because the Internet lives forever. And how would you like, Bethany,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: to be 15, 18, 19 years old, starting out in
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: the world, going out, trying to figure out what it was,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: and you come across a story that your mom said, man,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: I wish we hadn't had you.
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  Speaker 8: Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 2: No, and these are the same parents who are going
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: to throw up their hands and say, oh, well, what
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: could have happened?
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  Speaker 8: Teenagers are hard.
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  Speaker 11: Teenagers are awful.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you know, all kids go off the reservation and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, become dry. Like, no, your child's byproduct is
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  Speaker 2: a direct result of what you're putting into it. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is what you've done to them. People
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  Speaker 2: see kids. We see this on social media, how people
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  Speaker 2: talk about their children. They see them as property instead
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  Speaker 2: of human beings who, you're right, will grow up one
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  Speaker 2: day and see what their parents have posted about them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just hideous. Anyway, I'm glad to have resources
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  Speaker 4: like you, Bethany, for my listeners. Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Kevin McCullough coming right back.
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  Speaker 8: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
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  Speaker 11: Next.
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  Speaker 8: Serving it up with a no-drink minnow. It's that Kevin
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  Speaker 8: Mac show. Every heart declare it.
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  Speaker 15: Every voice proclaim.
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  Speaker 12: Jesus, you are world.
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  Speaker 15: Worship Christ the King.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so glad you're with us. Final few minutes
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  Speaker 4: of the full show today. Kevin McCullough saying thank you.
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  Speaker 4: That is yesterday the same. I debuted it last hour.
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  Speaker 4: So if you didn't get the full song, go back
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: and listen. Or just go over to Spotify where it
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: debuted at midnight last night. And we're grateful. We didn't
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: put any real big marketing push behind it or anything
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  Speaker 4: because this is the one song we wrote that we
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  Speaker 4: just want to give back to God. And it's been
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: one of the biggest labors of love that we've done.
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  Speaker 4: And yet that is the stuff that I think that
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  Speaker 4: we're going to sing in heaven. Every heart declare it.
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  Speaker 4: Every voice proclaim, Jesus, you are worthy yesterday the same
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  Speaker 4: as you were the day before that and the day
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  Speaker 4: before that and the day before that. You've always been faithful.
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  Speaker 4: You've always loved us. So we decided as the group
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  Speaker 4: that we're going to do a few things with this song.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, We're not going to keep any of
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: the proceeds of the song at all. We're going to
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: give them all away. We also are going to make
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  Speaker 4: available at no cost the lyric sheet, the chord chart,
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  Speaker 4: and we're working on a variety of alternative productions of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: the song. So, for instance, this is going to blow
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: Lady Tanika's mind, and I hope she's not stuck with
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: any of the administrative part of this. She won't be.
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  Speaker 4: We have people for that. But here's the thing. We're
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  Speaker 4: going to do a choral version. If your church is
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: more traditional or high church in its approach, we've written
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: and orchestrated a choral version of this. There's a singer-songwriter version,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: which doesn't have all of the bells and whistles and
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: reverb and all the other stuff that's in that version.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: That's kind of the radio version, the regular version. There's
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: an instrumental version. We've done an acapella version. We've got
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: various degrees of differences, but really designed for a wide
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  Speaker 4: range of styles because we don't want the words to
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  Speaker 4: go unsung. So we've got the charts. We've got the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: lyric sheets and We've got all the different versions, and
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  Speaker 4: we will make them available to any person who writes us.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to be part of your worship team
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  Speaker 4: at your church. You could get it and forward it
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  Speaker 4: to your worship team. That would be fine. Or you
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: could have them write and receive it as well. But
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  Speaker 4: if you would like a copy of the worship leading
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: kit for Yesterday the Same, and it is going to
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  Speaker 4: be a kit. There's going to be a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: stuff in there. Just send us an email to thatkevinshow
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  Speaker 4: at gmail.com and put yesterday.com. in the subject line yesterday
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  Speaker 4: in the subject. It's the song is called yesterday. The same.
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  Speaker 4: So put yesterday in the subject line, uh, and then
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  Speaker 4: make sure you give us your info in the body
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  Speaker 4: of the email. And we'll send you that. We'll send
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  Speaker 4: you the kit. Um, it'll have probably four or five
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  Speaker 4: different versions of the song, plus the lyric sheets, plus
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  Speaker 4: the chord charts, uh, plus everything that, uh, we're even
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: going to put it up on, um, uh, on, on Moises,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: which is the musical app that Charlie Puth uses, uh,
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  Speaker 4: We're going to make the stems available. So if you
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: want to sing it as a vocalist and take Allie
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  Speaker 4: and Jay's parts out and just sing with the instrumentation,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: we're going to make that available as well. That link
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  Speaker 4: will be in there. Our goal long-term is just to
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  Speaker 4: see the church sing this song, to help every person
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  Speaker 4: in the church know that their heart should declare, that
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: their voice should proclaim, that Jesus is worthy. That's the purpose.
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  Speaker 4: That's the goal. That's what it's all about. So thatkevinshow
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  Speaker 4: at gmail.com. Put yesterday in the subject line, and we'll
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: be glad to send it to you. Yesterday in the
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: subject line. Send it to thatkevinshow.com. Kevin McCullough, very glad
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  Speaker 4: to have you with us. Next week, we broadcast live
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  Speaker 4: from the Sing Conference in Nashville with Keith and Kristen
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  Speaker 4: Getty on Tuesday and Wednesday, and all of their speakers
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  Speaker 4: and musicians that are on the stage there. Looking forward
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  Speaker 4: to that. And I hope you have a great Labor
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  Speaker 4: Day holiday, and we'll see you from Nashville on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: Take care.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.