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- 0:03Speaker 1: It is Isurday, seventh August. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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- 0:21Speaker 2: K P. Checkrick I got lost in the mail. Welcome in.
- 0:26Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour and welcome to the Team
- 0:29Speaker 2: Hotel in Troy, Michigan. Day two of Jaguars Lions practice
- 0:36Speaker 2: on Thursday. The Jags will practice alone Friday, and then
- 0:40Speaker 2: the game coming up Saturday, preseason week two for the
- 0:43Speaker 2: Jaguars and the Lions. Busy day, of course, busy two
- 0:46Speaker 2: hours ahead on Tenjinexcel ninety two point five FM, Jaguars
- 0:50Speaker 2: dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Jags Lions again today, of course,
- 0:54Speaker 2: the review of today's practice. No pads, we'll get to
- 0:57Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman coming up and get his the Kai Stevens
- 1:01Speaker 2: coming up at four thirty today to join us as well,
- 1:04Speaker 2: and playing time in preseason week two. We'll see you
- 1:08Speaker 2: know who could play. There may not be as many
- 1:11Speaker 2: as you think from the front line playing in this
- 1:14Speaker 2: game on Saturday, and then at five o'clock to Doug
- 1:17Speaker 2: Peterson's show, we'll hear from Doug Peterson in his press
- 1:21Speaker 2: conference earlier this week. Wednesday, he'll join us live again
- 1:25Speaker 2: starting Week one, when the Jaguars face the Indianapolis Colts
- 1:29Speaker 2: up at Lucas Oil Stadium. Ahead of that game, Trevor
- 1:32Speaker 2: Lawrence spoke with a media after practice today, discussing the
- 1:35Speaker 2: difference in seeing another team across the ball. In some ways, I.
- 1:42Speaker 3: Think it's better because you get to really, you know,
- 1:45Speaker 3: hand pick the situations you do and get to get
- 1:47Speaker 3: all that work in. Like it's hard in preseason you
- 1:49Speaker 3: don't know which situations are gonna come up, how much
- 1:52Speaker 3: you're gonna play, all that stuff. But out here, you
- 1:55Speaker 3: know you can kind of protect yourself a little bit,
- 1:56Speaker 3: but also get the work in, get a lot of plays,
- 1:58Speaker 3: get a lot of different situations. Where so that's that's
- 2:01Speaker 3: really good.
- 2:04Speaker 2: That's Trevor Lawrence. The full availability after practice on Jaguars
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- 2:19Speaker 2: Jeff Flogoman, Jaguars analyst, Good afternoon, afternoon, JP, we're back. Yeah, yeah, no,
- 2:26Speaker 2: in great weather here too, you know, by the way, Yeah,
- 2:29Speaker 2: pretty nice. It's been nice to see a practice where
- 2:33Speaker 2: you have another team involved in the environment that we have.
- 2:38Speaker 2: It's just been a joy to be outside. And I'm
- 2:39Speaker 2: sure the players loved every minute of it because I
- 2:41Speaker 2: could you could kind of tell. I mean, day two.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Typically you kind of have guys that run out of
- 2:45Speaker 2: energy when it's hot. I think it was probably more
- 2:48Speaker 2: spirited today than maybe yesterday. I felt like it right
- 2:50Speaker 2: without pads today, there was a little bit of that chippiness.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Yesterday you might expected some thud tempo, a lot of
- 2:56Speaker 2: that extracurricular things kind of went on, but nothing really
- 2:59Speaker 2: over the edge today. Okay, it's gotta be light right,
- 3:02Speaker 2: there's no hold on, let me finish today. Okay, let's
- 3:05Speaker 2: take the pads off. It's really gonna be light right. No, no, no,
- 3:09Speaker 2: there was a little more of that today, it felt like,
- 3:11Speaker 2: and you're right to your point. The energy was still
- 3:13Speaker 2: there for both teams. They both have a lot to
- 3:15Speaker 2: prepare for and some expectations now for both sides that
- 3:18Speaker 2: they're trying to meet. Well, I think there was a
- 3:21Speaker 2: little bit that was over the edge, okay, and that
- 3:24Speaker 2: was I think because of the Detroit Lions defense. They
- 3:27Speaker 2: were slinging some of the Jaguar offensive playmakers around a
- 3:31Speaker 2: little bit in no pads, and there's just absolutely no
- 3:34Speaker 2: reason to have that. There was multiple two different occasions. Okay.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Jamichael Hasty ended up having a linebacker Jack Jack Campbell,
- 3:44Speaker 2: their second first round pick that they had. He throws
- 3:46Speaker 2: Jamichael Hasty kind of into the boundary. I mean, what
- 3:49Speaker 2: what are you doing? I mean, it's totally unnecessary. And
- 3:51Speaker 2: then the defensive tackle, John Kaminski grabs Jamal Agnew kind
- 3:56Speaker 2: of around the head and then does a spin around
- 3:58Speaker 2: and wants to throw him like a like a discuss
- 4:01Speaker 2: or shot put. I mean, what are you doing? I mean,
- 4:03Speaker 2: and I will give the defense, excuse me, the offense credit.
- 4:08Speaker 2: They kept their cool, and you want to keep your cool,
- 4:11Speaker 2: but at the same token, you can't take that crap.
- 4:15Speaker 2: I mean, you have to be able to stand up
- 4:16Speaker 2: for your teammates. You have to stand up for yourselves.
- 4:19Speaker 2: And I liked the way that they did that. Kaminski
- 4:21Speaker 2: yesterday pulled some of the same crap, and I thought
- 4:25Speaker 2: that Luke Partner did a great job of kind of
- 4:28Speaker 2: putting a stop to that, and then you had, just
- 4:31Speaker 2: like yesterday today, you had the teams kind of come
- 4:35Speaker 2: together in the middle of the field, and you had
- 4:38Speaker 2: Doug Peterson and Dan Campbell out there kind of going, oh,
- 4:41Speaker 2: wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, trying to
- 4:44Speaker 2: cool things down a little bit. I thought for a
- 4:45Speaker 2: minute that the head coaches were going to have to
- 4:48Speaker 2: take like a little time out and then have their
- 4:50Speaker 2: teams and bring them up and maybe have a little conversation.
- 4:53Speaker 2: But Core's help Core heads prevailed a lot of the
- 4:57Speaker 2: yapping kind of spurs a little bit of that on
- 5:00Speaker 2: as well. CJ. Gardner Johnson, the cornerback for Detroit, was
- 5:05Speaker 2: yesterday a lot of the time was doing a lot
- 5:07Speaker 2: of the chirping with Calvin Ridley when that would go on.
- 5:09Speaker 2: I think they know each other from the old days
- 5:11Speaker 2: back in South Florida. Either way, it kind of spilled
- 5:15Speaker 2: over today. Gardner Johnson's over on the sideline kind of
- 5:19Speaker 2: you know, chirping from afar to keep it going. Well, look,
- 5:22Speaker 2: the reality is is that the Detroit Lions defense was
- 5:26Speaker 2: the worst defense in the National Football League last year
- 5:29Speaker 2: and yards allowed thirtieth in points allowed, and so, look,
- 5:32Speaker 2: they're trying to change the way that they do their business.
- 5:36Speaker 2: And CJ. Gardner Johnson is a guy that was brought
- 5:39Speaker 2: in because he's he's vocal, he is I guess he
- 5:44Speaker 2: motivates guys with the way that he talks. But he's
- 5:46Speaker 2: got a He brings the swagger to a defense, to
- 5:49Speaker 2: a defense that really doesn't have one yet. So I
- 5:53Speaker 2: think they're trying to establish an identity. And I've said
- 5:55Speaker 2: this before that I think that the Jaguars defense needs
- 5:58Speaker 2: to work on establishing the identity. That identity doesn't necessarily
- 6:02Speaker 2: need trash talking and cheap shots against the opponent and
- 6:07Speaker 2: a joint practice. But you know what I'm saying is
- 6:10Speaker 2: that that look, when you are a unit that is
- 6:12Speaker 2: trying to establish yourself, there's a certain way that you
- 6:16Speaker 2: want to have people perceive you how you play the game.
- 6:20Speaker 2: It is a second week in a row for the
- 6:21Speaker 2: Lions to host a joint practice, by the way, so
- 6:25Speaker 2: not the first time they've had a team in this
- 6:27Speaker 2: training camp. We're on TENTENXL ninety two point five FM
- 6:30Speaker 2: Shaguars Happy Our JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. You know
- 6:33Speaker 2: what helps a defensive swagger, pass rush and a guy
- 6:37Speaker 2: that can do it. And Aiden Hutchinson, now going into
- 6:39Speaker 2: his second season. Today, there were some changes in the
- 6:42Speaker 2: Jags offensive line. Anton Harrison was off to the side
- 6:45Speaker 2: and the team stuff today. Blake Hanscott some time over
- 6:49Speaker 2: there at the right tackle position. They were moving Walker
- 6:52Speaker 2: little around a little bit today, so some changes there. Hutchinson, though,
- 6:56Speaker 2: he's everything that you want all of six to six
- 7:01Speaker 2: and he's got the skill to go with it well.
- 7:03Speaker 2: And Anton Harrison, who left practice a little bit early
- 7:06Speaker 2: yesterday with the shoulder, didn't do some of the team
- 7:10Speaker 2: activities today, but he did the one on one drill
- 7:12Speaker 2: today against the Detroit Lions offensive line or defensive line,
- 7:16Speaker 2: and he once again closed the door on Aiden Hutchinson.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Didn't give him anything. Now, Aiden Hutchinson ended up beating
- 7:23Speaker 2: some of the backups, but you know that were behind
- 7:25Speaker 2: Anton Harrison. He's had a great spin move and on
- 7:28Speaker 2: one occasion, but look, Anton Harrison continues to look exceptional.
- 7:33Speaker 2: The shoulder is an issue that's going to be something
- 7:36Speaker 2: that I think he's going to have to continue to
- 7:39Speaker 2: monitor through the season. They're gonna have to make sure
- 7:42Speaker 2: that he's gotten enough time to recover, et cetera. But
- 7:45Speaker 2: I love his feet, I love his demeanor, love the
- 7:48Speaker 2: way he finishes. There's a lot of reason to be
- 7:50Speaker 2: excited there, and against a guy that's got one year
- 7:54Speaker 2: already under his belt, who had nine and a half
- 7:55Speaker 2: sacks last year in Aiden Hutchinson. It's great work, great
- 7:59Speaker 2: work for hair. I saw you we were on Huddle
- 8:02Speaker 2: Up yesterday on Jaguars dot Com and the Jaguars YouTube,
- 8:06Speaker 2: and you mentioned the harness that's on his right arm.
- 8:09Speaker 2: I saw that today, right, the black kind of sling
- 8:12Speaker 2: on the outside of the sleeve there and kind of
- 8:15Speaker 2: restricts some of the movement of that shoulder. Yeah, And
- 8:17Speaker 2: you could tell that today that Anton Harrison, because with
- 8:22Speaker 2: a shoulder harness typically most of them are adjustable. Okay,
- 8:28Speaker 2: so if if you really want to protect the shoulder more,
- 8:31Speaker 2: then instead of allowing the arm to go back to here,
- 8:34Speaker 2: you tighten the mechanism up and make the arm only
- 8:38Speaker 2: go to here. And so you could tell that today
- 8:41Speaker 2: because of what happened yesterday, they might have restricted that
- 8:44Speaker 2: movement a little bit today and that Harrison was having
- 8:47Speaker 2: a little bit of discomfort with that. You could see
- 8:49Speaker 2: some communication going back and forth between him and the
- 8:53Speaker 2: trainers trying to get that thing to feel in a
- 8:55Speaker 2: little bit more comfortable. But yeah, I mean it's a
- 8:59Speaker 2: great desire, and unfortunately I played a couple different seasons
- 9:02Speaker 2: with shoulder harnesses and to kind of go over it
- 9:06Speaker 2: again that there's a complete wrap around the upper torso
- 9:10Speaker 2: of the body. And back in the day it was canvas.
- 9:12Speaker 2: I think there's a lot better material now than there
- 9:15Speaker 2: was back then, but back then it was it was
- 9:17Speaker 2: a potato sack back then that they cut up they
- 9:20Speaker 2: strung together with. It wasn't that archaic, but it was.
- 9:24Speaker 2: It was canvas. And then the sleeve that went around
- 9:27Speaker 2: the arm was canvas. And then you actually had shoelaces
- 9:30Speaker 2: that went because you had islets here on the inside
- 9:33Speaker 2: of the arm and then islets on the part that
- 9:35Speaker 2: went around the torso, and so you could control how
- 9:39Speaker 2: far it went by the strings and how tight you
- 9:41Speaker 2: had them or didn't have them. And nowadays it's like
- 9:45Speaker 2: a more of a neoprene sleeve with a couple pieces
- 9:49Speaker 2: that go from here to there or from the chest
- 9:52Speaker 2: to the arm that restrict that movement. I mean, it's accomplished,
- 9:55Speaker 2: is the same thing, but it's just a more updated
- 9:58Speaker 2: version of it in today's game. And we're talking about
- 10:01Speaker 2: Anton Harrison. Of course, Jaguar is right tackle who was limited.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Let's say in practice today, a couple defensive players were
- 10:08Speaker 2: out today. We'll get to that coming up in just
- 10:10Speaker 2: a little bit, and some one of those at least
- 10:13Speaker 2: could be extended a little bit back to the offensive line.
- 10:18Speaker 2: We saw a walker little slide inside the guard again
- 10:20Speaker 2: a little bit today. He's been doing some of that
- 10:22Speaker 2: in camp. It's not a surprise. It's not hidden or anything.
- 10:26Speaker 2: It's out there in public practices that hey, just to
- 10:29Speaker 2: see what kind of look he would get there. I
- 10:31Speaker 2: guess the question. I didn't get to see the one
- 10:33Speaker 2: on ones today. But have we seen Cam Robinson slide
- 10:36Speaker 2: inside at all his training camp? I haven't. I haven't anything.
- 10:39Speaker 2: I haven't seen that, and I'm not saying it hasn't happened,
- 10:41Speaker 2: but I haven't seen it. If it has, right, you know,
- 10:43Speaker 2: I've only got two eyes to look one direction, so
- 10:46Speaker 2: I can't be looking everywhere. Well, that's right, but I
- 10:49Speaker 2: haven't seen that yet. And Cam's a tackle. Yeah, I
- 10:52Speaker 2: think Cam could play guard in a pinch, But you know,
- 10:57Speaker 2: he's long, he's big, he's he's out athletic. Could he
- 11:01Speaker 2: play guard, sure, but I think he's more natural position
- 11:04Speaker 2: to tackle. Okay, So they're trying Walker in there as well.
- 11:07Speaker 2: By the way, he hasn't played guard before. Yeah, I
- 11:10Speaker 2: mean I don't know. I mean, look, just because you
- 11:12Speaker 2: give them reps in there doesn't mean that he's going
- 11:14Speaker 2: to be your best option to play guard. Once Cam
- 11:16Speaker 2: comes fast, this is when you find out though you
- 11:18Speaker 2: try exactly right, you do that in practice. Now, maybe
- 11:22Speaker 2: you do it in the preseason game. It will be
- 11:24Speaker 2: this week, I don't know, maybe next week against Miami,
- 11:26Speaker 2: but you you want to see it. Possibly, and with
- 11:30Speaker 2: Miami being the last game that Cam would play, I mean,
- 11:35Speaker 2: maybe they end up letting Cam get some more reps
- 11:37Speaker 2: at left tackle in that game, getting Walker little some
- 11:41Speaker 2: snaps of guard. I mean, who knows what they do,
- 11:44Speaker 2: but they like to multitask the offensive linemup and not
- 11:48Speaker 2: just I mean very few guys will stay where they
- 11:50Speaker 2: where they're at. There's a couple like Fortner. Fortner is
- 11:53Speaker 2: going to play center, yes, and that in center only, Okay.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Brandon Sheriff is going to play right guard and right
- 11:59Speaker 2: guard own Okay, Anton Harrison, Josh Wells, Cam Robinson to
- 12:04Speaker 2: some extent will play mostly left tackle, but then Walker
- 12:07Speaker 2: is going to have to multitask as well. So another
- 12:10Speaker 2: good thing along the offensive line. Ben Bartch is back
- 12:13Speaker 2: this week, and I thought he had a really good
- 12:16Speaker 2: start to return him from an injury. Let's not forget
- 12:19Speaker 2: he had a significant knee injury last year. I mean
- 12:21Speaker 2: he's significant knee injury. And I want to say it
- 12:23Speaker 2: was in the first four games of the seasonally, because
- 12:25Speaker 2: I think Shatley started what was it like twelve games
- 12:29Speaker 2: or something of that nature. Yeah, he had twelve starts,
- 12:32Speaker 2: and so I think it was game five that Ben
- 12:36Speaker 2: parts ended up going down with a significant knee injury.
- 12:38Speaker 2: And they were holding him out early in camp, and
- 12:41Speaker 2: then earlier this week they said okay, or last week
- 12:45Speaker 2: they said they're going to get him some reps, and
- 12:47Speaker 2: he got some reps, and this week he's been put
- 12:50Speaker 2: the pads on and in one on one his opportunities
- 12:53Speaker 2: he had. He's had a really good start to his
- 12:56Speaker 2: training camp coming back from a significant age injury, and
- 13:00Speaker 2: that's encouraging because Shatley is still working on the side,
- 13:04Speaker 2: and so they've got some numbers, okay on the offensive
- 13:08Speaker 2: line that are a little concerning you. No kid's got
- 13:10Speaker 2: Josh Wells out, Anton Harrison's a little banged up, Shatley
- 13:16Speaker 2: is out. Krooy Kronk looks like he's kind of a
- 13:19Speaker 2: little dinged up, you know. So you got some guys
- 13:21Speaker 2: that are out. So I'm sure that every offensive line
- 13:24Speaker 2: coach would like to have three deep for every game,
- 13:26Speaker 2: and they're not gonna have it this week. Plenty ahead.
- 13:29Speaker 2: We'll come back in a moment and get into the
- 13:31Speaker 2: Jaguars defense today against the Lions offensive group. Jaguars Happy
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- 14:13Speaker 2: en video on Jaguars YouTube today. Glad you're with us,
- 14:17Speaker 2: Thank you. The Jaguars and Lions practicing two days in
- 14:20Speaker 2: a row. Pads yesterday, no pads today. The game coming
- 14:23Speaker 2: up Saturday at one o'clock at Ford Field, downtown Detroit.
- 14:27Speaker 2: It's two similar teams. We talked about that too, similar
- 14:30Speaker 2: mindset teams. Let's say, I think the Jags might be
- 14:33Speaker 2: in terms of the roster on offense, certainly a little
- 14:37Speaker 2: bit ahead of where the Lions are defensively. Hey, the
- 14:43Speaker 2: Jags have moments, they can take the ball away. They've
- 14:45Speaker 2: got guys, They've got guys that are going to develop
- 14:47Speaker 2: and get better. They just got to get a little
- 14:50Speaker 2: bit better, right. But it's two teams ascending, that's the
- 14:53Speaker 2: whole point. The Lions feel like they're right on the
- 14:55Speaker 2: edge of being at the top of the NFC North.
- 14:57Speaker 2: The Jaguars were at the top of the AFC southe
- 15:00Speaker 2: last year and may not be a Super Bowl preview
- 15:03Speaker 2: this week, however, it's two teams that could be knocking
- 15:05Speaker 2: on the door list. I think what's amazing is that
- 15:08Speaker 2: how you look at these two teams when you look
- 15:11Speaker 2: back at last year, they both had the same record,
- 15:14Speaker 2: right I mean nine to eight. Okay, the Jaguars win
- 15:16Speaker 2: the division. The Detroit Lions are left on the outside
- 15:20Speaker 2: looking in of the playoffs, even though they ended up
- 15:22Speaker 2: winning the last game against Green Bay, which gave them
- 15:25Speaker 2: a sweep of green Bay on the season. But look,
- 15:29Speaker 2: the NFL obviously thinks very highly of the Detroit Lions too.
- 15:32Speaker 2: I mean, that's the marquee game with the Kansas City
- 15:34Speaker 2: Chiefs on Thursday night for the opening game and the
- 15:37Speaker 2: National Football League this year, and there's a lot of
- 15:40Speaker 2: buzz about Detroit. That is the first winning season they
- 15:43Speaker 2: are coming off of, and I think the previous five years.
- 15:47Speaker 2: And Dan Campbell's kind of a he's kind of that old,
- 15:50Speaker 2: full of testosterone, old school head coach, you know. And
- 15:55Speaker 2: the people in Detroit are excited about their football team
- 15:57Speaker 2: and they're excited about Dan Campbell. But they're very different
- 16:02Speaker 2: teams when you look at the Jaguars compared to the
- 16:04Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, especially offensively, because their offenses is based on
- 16:09Speaker 2: having a very strong running game, a strong offensive line,
- 16:14Speaker 2: not putting too much pressure on their quarterback Jared Goff
- 16:18Speaker 2: where you feel like Trevor Lawrence can handle it. The
- 16:21Speaker 2: Jaguars have a lot of talented wide receiver. Whereas you
- 16:25Speaker 2: look at the Detroit Lions, their second best wide receiver
- 16:28Speaker 2: is somebody that the Jaguars cast off of and that's
- 16:31Speaker 2: Marvin Jones Junior, which Trevor called his security blanket for
- 16:35Speaker 2: the last couple of years. So very different. And they've
- 16:38Speaker 2: revamped their running back room. They got rid of the
- 16:41Speaker 2: top two guys that they had and brought one guy
- 16:43Speaker 2: in and free agency, one guy in in the draft.
- 16:46Speaker 2: But I talked to Dan Campbell a little bit after
- 16:49Speaker 2: practice today and he's incredibly excited about his football team.
- 16:52Speaker 2: He feels like that they've got a real strong chance
- 16:55Speaker 2: and their division is not particularly strong, probably similar to
- 16:58Speaker 2: the Jaguars and aspect that the Jaguars a lot of
- 17:02Speaker 2: confidence in their football team and the division is not
- 17:05Speaker 2: very strong. You know, the two of the receivers were
- 17:09Speaker 2: out today. I'm on Ross Saint Brown was not available today.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Jameson Williams, who is suspended to start the season. Yeah,
- 17:15Speaker 2: he's today. Yeah, I mean, he'd say this JP. He's
- 17:18Speaker 2: not one of the one of the guys that you
- 17:22Speaker 2: feel real confident about from from your university. Unfortunately, he
- 17:26Speaker 2: was banged up a little bit last year, right obviously, Well,
- 17:29Speaker 2: he was coming back from an injury, Okay that I
- 17:33Speaker 2: believe it was knee injury that he's stained at Alabama. Okay,
- 17:37Speaker 2: and they still drafted him in the first round because
- 17:40Speaker 2: he's a burner, a speedster. Didn't play a lot of
- 17:44Speaker 2: last year coming back from the injury. When he did,
- 17:46Speaker 2: he was used kind of sparingly. Well, then he gets
- 17:51Speaker 2: busted for the gambling issue, which there was a three
- 17:54Speaker 2: of the Detroit Lion players that got and some staff
- 17:56Speaker 2: people got busted for gambling. And look, the NFL got
- 18:00Speaker 2: some crazy rules that were very vague and I think
- 18:03Speaker 2: hard to understand. So I kind of give him a
- 18:05Speaker 2: little bit of a pass. But the way I understand it,
- 18:08Speaker 2: Jamison Williams is a little bit of a wild card
- 18:15Speaker 2: from I'm hearing in Detroit. You know, we've got a
- 18:18Speaker 2: lot of different people that we have the opportunity to
- 18:20Speaker 2: talk with at practice with the Lions, with the people
- 18:23Speaker 2: that are covering the Lions, and that he's not grounded
- 18:28Speaker 2: very well, you know, so that would be tough for
- 18:32Speaker 2: the Lions if you can't end up having that high
- 18:33Speaker 2: of a pig be productive. I'm on Aross Saint Brown
- 18:36Speaker 2: though over eleven hundred yards receiving last year six touchdowns.
- 18:41Speaker 2: He's surely their number one guy, and then Marvin's probably
- 18:44Speaker 2: right there number two. Yeah, Saint Brown is really good.
- 18:46Speaker 2: I mean, what, one hundred ninety six catches in his
- 18:48Speaker 2: first two years tied the NFL record That justin Jefferson
- 18:53Speaker 2: and then Michael Thomas of the New Lands Saints set.
- 18:56Speaker 2: I mean, he is everything. The only thing he probably
- 18:59Speaker 2: didn't have a high number of his touchdown catches. I
- 19:02Speaker 2: think he only had six in both of his seasons,
- 19:05Speaker 2: which is not a particularly high number. But he's a
- 19:08Speaker 2: good player. But that's why this Detroit Lions offense needs
- 19:12Speaker 2: to have a running game. It's gonna lean on their
- 19:14Speaker 2: offensive line. Jared Goff did a great job last year
- 19:17Speaker 2: of protecting the ball. I think it only threw like
- 19:19Speaker 2: seven interceptions and he didn't have an interception in the
- 19:23Speaker 2: last nine games, which is unbelievable, by the way, And
- 19:27Speaker 2: that was one of the reasons why the Detroit Lions
- 19:29Speaker 2: ended up being one of the top five teams in
- 19:30Speaker 2: turnover differential last year is because not because their defense
- 19:34Speaker 2: was great, but because they did a great job of
- 19:36Speaker 2: protecting the ball. I think they only turned the ball
- 19:37Speaker 2: over as an offense maybe seventeen times, which is a
- 19:40Speaker 2: great number. You know, this brings us to the Jaguars
- 19:44Speaker 2: secondary conversation going against some of these wide receivers the
- 19:47Speaker 2: last couple of days. We know what Tyson Campbell's can do.
- 19:50Speaker 2: He missed a little bit last week in the concussion protocol.
- 19:52Speaker 2: He's back out there. Of course, Darius Williams on the outside.
- 19:55Speaker 2: But the question mark going into last week's game that
- 19:58Speaker 2: has been a question that Doug Peter and once answered
- 20:01Speaker 2: by week one, is that third corner spot nickel corner,
- 20:04Speaker 2: who's kind of the next guy up at corner. And
- 20:07Speaker 2: one of the names that he listed last week in
- 20:09Speaker 2: our pregame conversation was the rookie Antonio Johnson out of
- 20:12Speaker 2: Texas A and M. And I'll be honest with you,
- 20:14Speaker 2: I missed this yesterday. I missed him leaving thy Yeah
- 20:18Speaker 2: he was out, but he was out today and it's
- 20:20Speaker 2: a hamstring issue, and that's a blow for a rookie
- 20:24Speaker 2: who was really starting to make strides in that category.
- 20:27Speaker 2: He was, And I saw him in yesterday's practice rubbing
- 20:30Speaker 2: his right hamstring and probably going to miss some time,
- 20:35Speaker 2: and I will say this, I think he might be
- 20:38Speaker 2: the steel of the draft for the Jaguars. I mean,
- 20:42Speaker 2: this is the guy that was drafted in the fifth round.
- 20:46Speaker 2: I mean fifth round. And when you talk to the
- 20:49Speaker 2: coaches at the early part of training camp, and you
- 20:52Speaker 2: used to start asking questions and say, hey, you know
- 20:54Speaker 2: who's starting to stand out? And you're not trying to
- 20:57Speaker 2: lead him in any particular direction. You're you're kind of
- 20:59Speaker 2: trying to feel out where they want to go. I
- 21:03Speaker 2: asked that question of like three different coaches and two
- 21:06Speaker 2: of the more special teams coaches, because those are the
- 21:08Speaker 2: guys you first want to have the conversation with, because look,
- 21:11Speaker 2: the reality is a lot of roster spots that are
- 21:13Speaker 2: up up for grabs right now. That's the first consideration
- 21:17Speaker 2: that's taken into account. So I always talk to those
- 21:19Speaker 2: special teams guys, and then you start to talk to
- 21:21Speaker 2: the different position coaches. And when I started asking him
- 21:24Speaker 2: about you know who, who's the guy that's standing out,
- 21:26Speaker 2: Antonio Johnson was the first name that came up, right,
- 21:29Speaker 2: So so I'm like, all right, you know, I got
- 21:31Speaker 2: to start watching him a little closer. Well, at that point,
- 21:33Speaker 2: there was no pads on. So I'm like, well, how
- 21:35Speaker 2: in the world can you have that strong of an
- 21:36Speaker 2: opinion about a guy that hasn't even put the pads
- 21:39Speaker 2: on when he's of safety size defensive back, and then
- 21:44Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the pads go on. The first
- 21:46Speaker 2: game is played in Dallas, and I'm watching the film
- 21:48Speaker 2: and I'm going wow, Wow. I mean, play after play
- 21:53Speaker 2: after play, you're watching Antonio Johnson and he's doing things
- 21:57Speaker 2: that you just don't see normal guys do. He's fast,
- 22:00Speaker 2: he's athletic, he can play gunner on punt team, he
- 22:03Speaker 2: can block gunners on punt return. He is around the
- 22:06Speaker 2: ball all the time. He's effortless, he's physical. I mean,
- 22:10Speaker 2: there's nothing noted alike about Antonio Johnson's eyes. So I
- 22:13Speaker 2: started asking the question, there's got to be something wrong
- 22:17Speaker 2: with him, right, I mean, he's psycho. Okay, he's not smart.
- 22:23Speaker 2: I mean, there's gotta be something right that that knocked
- 22:25Speaker 2: him down to the fifth round. And so I actually
- 22:28Speaker 2: asked Trent Balkey to Das. I's like, why was he
- 22:31Speaker 2: available in the fifth round? And Trent said, look, he goes.
- 22:34Speaker 2: We had a second round grade on him, second third
- 22:37Speaker 2: round grade on him. I said, all right, so tell
- 22:39Speaker 2: me the truth. I mean, is he psycho? Is he?
- 22:41Speaker 2: You know? Is he? Is he not smart? He goes No,
- 22:44Speaker 2: He's got great character. He has all of the things
- 22:48Speaker 2: that are you want out of a player upstairs. I mean,
- 22:50Speaker 2: he was just a guy that was a safety that
- 22:55Speaker 2: unless safeties make a ton of plays on balls like
- 22:58Speaker 2: Andre Cisco at Syracuse is right, a lot of intercept,
- 23:01Speaker 2: tremendous ball skills making the play on the ball. Unless
- 23:03Speaker 2: you're a safety that has those numbers, you can get overlooked,
- 23:07Speaker 2: and he got overlooked. But there's no overlooking this young man.
- 23:10Speaker 2: I think he's going to be the steal of the
- 23:13Speaker 2: draft when you factor in what his draft position is.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Hopefully he doesn't miss too much time because as we've
- 23:20Speaker 2: seen in the past with not just with the Jaguars,
- 23:22Speaker 2: but you see this with other teams, when young players
- 23:25Speaker 2: miss a lot of time early, it has a significant
- 23:28Speaker 2: impact on their ability to perform in year one. We
- 23:31Speaker 2: saw that a little bit last year. Obviously, Devin Lloyd
- 23:33Speaker 2: missed a lot of training camp and at a different position,
- 23:36Speaker 2: but it kind of caught up with him as the
- 23:38Speaker 2: season went along. There. Jaguars happy hour, we continue on
- 23:42Speaker 2: defense and fully Phatikasi off to the side, and really
- 23:46Speaker 2: kind of a week to week thing. It feels like
- 23:49Speaker 2: he could be ready by week one. That's the hope.
- 23:52Speaker 2: At least it's not as at least initially not as
- 23:56Speaker 2: bad as thought. But they're gonna give him some time
- 23:58Speaker 2: day to day, week to week to see you can improve. Yeah.
- 24:01Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, but I mean we heard that. I mean,
- 24:03Speaker 2: I'm gonna ad the but he was banged up a
- 24:05Speaker 2: lot last year, banged up a lot last year. Yeah,
- 24:07Speaker 2: but this is a foot or ankle or something down there, Okay,
- 24:11Speaker 2: and big men and guys that move that kind of weight.
- 24:16Speaker 2: If all of a sudden you have an injury to
- 24:19Speaker 2: the foot, it can affect the best of the best.
- 24:22Speaker 2: And we're not talking about an offensive lineman here. Offensive
- 24:26Speaker 2: lineman a little bit more methodical. They know where they're
- 24:28Speaker 2: going where defense is reactive, and you're being reactive with
- 24:32Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds three hundred pounds whatever votocost
- 24:36Speaker 2: he ends up weighing. But I talked with him a
- 24:39Speaker 2: little bit today. He's positive, he's upbeat about he's pretty
- 24:42Speaker 2: confident about it. And I think this is something that
- 24:44Speaker 2: you know, once he gets over the initial discomfort of
- 24:48Speaker 2: the injury, that this is something that he can work
- 24:51Speaker 2: back from. So it's encouraging that this is not going
- 24:54Speaker 2: to be anything long term, or may may not be
- 24:57Speaker 2: anything long term. I always like to say may, because
- 25:00Speaker 2: you know, coaches and trainers say, well, you know this
- 25:02Speaker 2: is not gonna be long term. Well, last time I checked,
- 25:04Speaker 2: it's not your body, and you're not the one who's
- 25:06Speaker 2: feeling how you feel. You know what I mean. Nothing's
- 25:09Speaker 2: everything's minor if it's not happening to you. Right well, exactly,
- 25:13Speaker 2: right back in a moment. Plenty more ahead coming up
- 25:15Speaker 2: at the top of the hour of five o'clock. It's
- 25:17Speaker 2: the Doug Peterson Show. We'll hear from the head coach
- 25:19Speaker 2: in press conferences earlier this week. He'll be back live
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- 26:06Speaker 2: Jeff Logaman, Kai Stevens with us here at the Team
- 26:09Speaker 2: Hotel in Troy, Michigan. What's up, Kay, not.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Much, Thanks for having me. Let me come downstairs and
- 26:13Speaker 4: hang out.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Come on down here we are and hey, another day
- 26:16Speaker 2: of practice today. No pads today, but we're just talking
- 26:19Speaker 2: about it earlier. Still a little bit of an edge
- 26:21Speaker 2: between these two teams that really want to take the
- 26:24Speaker 2: next step.
- 26:25Speaker 5: Go little saucy at the end there, right right before
- 26:27Speaker 5: things ended. But I think it's a good kind of,
- 26:30Speaker 5: you know, competition. At least Trevor was talking afterwards. We
- 26:33Speaker 5: caught up with him and he was like, I like it.
- 26:35Speaker 5: I like that little like, you know, a little something something,
- 26:37Speaker 5: little fire. You don't have the same kind of mentality
- 26:39Speaker 5: when you're going up against your own team. You want
- 26:41Speaker 5: to get better, but it's not quite the same thing,
- 26:42Speaker 5: or you hope not if it's good culture around you.
- 26:45Speaker 5: So just having that little bit of competition, I think
- 26:47Speaker 5: it was definitely more on our offensive starters and their
- 26:50Speaker 5: defensive starters than it was the other side of the field.
- 26:52Speaker 5: They watched them for like a good hour yesterday and
- 26:54Speaker 5: it wasn't as chippy necessarily our defense.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Are you sure you watched that side of the field.
- 27:00Speaker 2: There's a little that's got to say. There's a little
- 27:04Speaker 2: chippiness going on off to the sideline too.
- 27:06Speaker 4: Yeah, we're very hard around here. I like to say, really.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Some chippiness on X or whatever it's called now, and
- 27:13Speaker 2: but hey, and you're right there. That was the where
- 27:16Speaker 2: the bulk of it was today. Jamal Agnew is a
- 27:18Speaker 2: former Lion, so he was hearing it from the sideline.
- 27:21Speaker 2: We'll hear from Jamal coming up in the Doug Peterson Show.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I caught up with him after practice to talk about
- 27:25Speaker 2: some of that today and dealing with some of his
- 27:28Speaker 2: former teammates and the whole deal. It's just kind of
- 27:30Speaker 2: part of it when you get in a joint practice
- 27:32Speaker 2: like this and he's he's Jamal is such a great guy,
- 27:36Speaker 2: you know, and it's not like that he left here
- 27:38Speaker 2: on bad terms. And the crazy thing is is what
- 27:42Speaker 2: it's it's been what three years removed since he was
- 27:44Speaker 2: a member of the Detroit Lions. The roster changeover in
- 27:48Speaker 2: three years for with NFL teams.
- 27:50Speaker 4: Can be almost completely different.
- 27:51Speaker 2: I mean totally different. So I'm sure there's a lot
- 27:53Speaker 2: of guys on this football team that are going he
- 27:55Speaker 2: used to play for the Lions? What right? So that works?
- 28:00Speaker 2: Stevens is with us? All right? So what stood out
- 28:03Speaker 2: today the most to you about this Jags team? I
- 28:06Speaker 2: know it's tough, no pads to day, A little different
- 28:08Speaker 2: feel to me. K was, Hey, these guys in the
- 28:12Speaker 2: red zone are pretty good Jags on offense.
- 28:14Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot a Chamelion.
- 28:15Speaker 2: Ridley and Kirk. They had another really good few moments.
- 28:20Speaker 4: Today and thinks are coming together.
- 28:21Speaker 5: Obviously, when in that first preseason game you see Trevor
- 28:23Speaker 5: throw pick, you're maybe like, oh, what is this actually
- 28:25Speaker 5: working out? But you have to remember Calvin Ridley, as
- 28:27Speaker 5: talented as he is, is a new piece to this
- 28:29Speaker 5: offense and working someone as talented as that is into
- 28:32Speaker 5: what you already have is difficult. And also, as we
- 28:35Speaker 5: like to stay around here, Trevor is going to his
- 28:37Speaker 5: second year, so there's always that second year jump as
- 28:39Speaker 5: he figures things out, gets a little more comfortable.
- 28:41Speaker 4: And he's so comfortable with.
- 28:43Speaker 5: Christian Kirk, with Evan Ingram, and that shows now and
- 28:46Speaker 5: even Jay Jones. I mean, it's just it's very clear
- 28:48Speaker 5: that he feels comfortable and they have that trust factor
- 28:50Speaker 5: built in.
- 28:51Speaker 2: How about the catch that Jay Jones had today? It
- 28:53Speaker 2: was like a one handed I mean, just a freaking catch.
- 28:58Speaker 2: I didn't think he was going to catch it. I
- 28:59Speaker 2: was like, oh, oh my goodness. I was over there
- 29:01Speaker 2: hollering and go lookt that catch. And Trevor is so blessed, fortunate,
- 29:06Speaker 2: whatever word you want to use that he has arguably
- 29:11Speaker 2: the hardest working group of skill position players that I've
- 29:15Speaker 2: ever seen in Jaguars history. And I don't throw around
- 29:18Speaker 2: superlatives very much, but I can't think of a group
- 29:23Speaker 2: that's worked harder than this group for their quarterback with
- 29:26Speaker 2: Evan Ingram and Zey and Christian Kirk. Day in and
- 29:32Speaker 2: day out, these guys come to work, to go and
- 29:36Speaker 2: practice at one hundred miles of night. They don't take
- 29:38Speaker 2: reps off, they don't coast, they don't come out there
- 29:42Speaker 2: with their shoestring or their shoes not completely tied because
- 29:45Speaker 2: they know they're not going at full speed. And look,
- 29:48Speaker 2: the reality is there's been some divas in the National
- 29:51Speaker 2: Football League that will come out to practice in a
- 29:54Speaker 2: padded practice, okay, and it's on grass and they're wearing
- 29:58Speaker 2: astro turf shoes, which means their whole plan is to
- 30:01Speaker 2: not go move fast enough to where they need the grip.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Whereas these guys come out their tape, they're ready to
- 30:08Speaker 2: rock and roll, and they're one hundred miles an hour.
- 30:09Speaker 2: I mean even Calvin Ridley, and I was always one
- 30:13Speaker 2: of these guys that is, when you watch the beginning
- 30:16Speaker 2: of training camp, you always want to watch see how
- 30:17Speaker 2: the chemistry plays out, especially when you got a new
- 30:19Speaker 2: guy like Calvin Ridley, because the chemistry last year was
- 30:22Speaker 2: really good with Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram and Zay
- 30:25Speaker 2: Jones and Travis etn And so you're like, Okay, this
- 30:30Speaker 2: new guy that's you know, going to be a star,
- 30:33Speaker 2: and he's getting a lot of attention, how's he going
- 30:35Speaker 2: to fit in? And after the first couple of days.
- 30:37Speaker 2: I said, he's going to fit in just fine because
- 30:39Speaker 2: he's got just as good of a work ethic as
- 30:41Speaker 2: everybody else, and he works his tailoff and you could
- 30:44Speaker 2: tell that Trevor and the rest of the group.
- 30:45Speaker 4: Appreciate that and they use it as motivation.
- 30:48Speaker 5: I think, like if you have someone that tal to
- 30:50Speaker 5: come in, some people could be you know, necessarily jealous,
- 30:52Speaker 5: but just kind of like, am I going to get
- 30:54Speaker 5: the same amount of balls through on my way?
- 30:55Speaker 4: Like where is my role changing?
- 30:57Speaker 5: And it feels like they've all really adapted quite well
- 30:59Speaker 5: to this is going to make us better. Him getting
- 31:01Speaker 5: double team is going to help me, like personally, and
- 31:04Speaker 5: then also what they do and just working on their
- 31:06Speaker 5: own craft. No one's like slacking or worried or trying
- 31:09Speaker 5: to find a way out. They're definitely all buying in.
- 31:11Speaker 5: Even talked to Evan Ingram last week I think it was,
- 31:14Speaker 5: and he was talking about this is the first time
- 31:16Speaker 5: he's intentionally building a relationship with a quarterback that he's
- 31:18Speaker 5: played with. He's played in New York before, but you know,
- 31:20Speaker 5: Eli's at the end. Daniel Jones's time was a little
- 31:23Speaker 5: bit different there and then this now that he knows
- 31:25Speaker 5: he's going to be here, not that he wasn't doing
- 31:26Speaker 5: it last season, but you know, all through the off
- 31:28Speaker 5: season they work out, Whichrevor all through the office, and
- 31:31Speaker 5: they go they play. You know, they're practicing by themselves
- 31:33Speaker 5: as not just mandatory mini camp and all that stuff.
- 31:36Speaker 4: They're working on this year round.
- 31:37Speaker 2: I happened to catch the last episode of The Hunt
- 31:41Speaker 2: and I caught Evan's comment, or actually I should say
- 31:45Speaker 2: it was Trevor's comment, because he said he was asked
- 31:47Speaker 2: the question, when did you find out about Evan Ingram's extension?
- 31:50Speaker 2: And he goes, well, I was actually with Evan when
- 31:53Speaker 2: that happened. And I'm sitting there going say, it's perfect.
- 31:57Speaker 2: I mean, those guys are working on the relationship, they're
- 31:59Speaker 2: working the game. They were in Arizona, I believe, yep,
- 32:01Speaker 2: and working out together when Evinant found out about the extension.
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- 32:27Speaker 2: Jeff Loghman and Kyle Stevens from the Team Hotel in Troy, Michigan.
- 32:31Speaker 2: As the Jaguars. The last two days practiced against the
- 32:34Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. Now day tomorrow to themselves for the Jags,
- 32:39Speaker 2: and then it's Saturday. It's preseason week two. It's a
- 32:42Speaker 2: one o'clock kickoff time at Ford Field, downtown Detroit. With
- 32:45Speaker 2: all this work in the last two days of practice,
- 32:49Speaker 2: it feels like those might be the bulk of the
- 32:51Speaker 2: reps for the starting Jaguars. You might see a couple
- 32:55Speaker 2: spots kai in the game. Maybe the right tackle get
- 32:59Speaker 2: some time. Walker Little hasn't had a lot of time
- 33:01Speaker 2: in his career. Maybe he gets a little bit at left,
- 33:04Speaker 2: a few spots on defense here or there. They've got
- 33:07Speaker 2: to see some depth on this team still, and this
- 33:09Speaker 2: is the time to do it. Next week could be
- 33:11Speaker 2: the dress rehearsal, last chance out, So who do you
- 33:14Speaker 2: want to see? Maybe deeper down stand out. This might
- 33:17Speaker 2: be one of their last chances to truly shine under
- 33:20Speaker 2: the lights kiny it.
- 33:21Speaker 5: Is and this is probably the game where if you're
- 33:23Speaker 5: on that bubble or you're not quite sure, you can
- 33:25Speaker 5: really cement yourself. And for me, I think I look
- 33:27Speaker 5: at people that showed out.
- 33:28Speaker 4: In the first game. You know, if it's Gregory Junior.
- 33:31Speaker 5: Having a follow up game that's just as good, So
- 33:33Speaker 5: then it makes it an easy decision, right because if
- 33:35Speaker 5: he has a great preseason game one and then doesn't
- 33:37Speaker 5: do as well in preseason game two when he's playing
- 33:39Speaker 5: a lot, then it's like, well, is the first thing
- 33:42Speaker 5: what you're actually going to do in a game or
- 33:43Speaker 5: is it the second game. So I think that makes
- 33:45Speaker 5: it a little more difficult. I want to see that, Yes,
- 33:47Speaker 5: your Abdullah do as well, you know, yeah, follow up on.
- 33:49Speaker 4: A great first game.
- 33:50Speaker 5: And I know, Jeff, you're very complimentary of his just
- 33:53Speaker 5: natural abilities to pass rush. So if he can continue
- 33:56Speaker 5: to do that and grow, and that would be That's
- 33:58Speaker 5: what I'm hoping for, at least on d fence.
- 34:00Speaker 4: In terms of starters, put them in bubble wrap. I
- 34:01Speaker 4: don't want to see him for a week, like a
- 34:03Speaker 4: couple of weeks like him next week, I don't.
- 34:05Speaker 5: I mean, I know they want to get out there,
- 34:07Speaker 5: and I know Trevor probably wants to play half or
- 34:09Speaker 5: whatever it is. I'm I'm all said, I know what
- 34:12Speaker 5: they they are a bit, they're able to do, and
- 34:14Speaker 5: I'm just you know, and then a couple of injuries
- 34:16Speaker 5: yesterday or a couple of things flaring up, I'd rather
- 34:19Speaker 5: just play on the side.
- 34:20Speaker 4: Of caution for me. But I'm a little I'm a
- 34:22Speaker 4: little more cautious than most.
- 34:23Speaker 2: So Yeah, I mean, I.
- 34:25Speaker 4: Know you probably want them all play. I don't want
- 34:27Speaker 4: to know.
- 34:27Speaker 2: I don't want them all to play. I just want
- 34:30Speaker 2: them to at least kind of get that you got.
- 34:33Speaker 4: To work on the season. Yeah, I understand.
- 34:36Speaker 2: And uh, and look, I don't want to see him
- 34:38Speaker 2: for very long. No, but but it is football, and
- 34:40Speaker 2: there's natural inherent risks. That's just the way it is.
- 34:43Speaker 2: So but uh, I like I like the idea of
- 34:47Speaker 2: having a three game preseason. The second game or the
- 34:52Speaker 2: second week of the preseason going somewhere to practice with somebody,
- 34:55Speaker 2: so then you can limit your exposure in that game
- 34:57Speaker 2: by not playing some of your starters in the game,
- 34:59Speaker 2: by getting them a lot of reps with practice, and
- 35:02Speaker 2: then the last game, hey, look it's time to get
- 35:04Speaker 2: our starters ready for the season, and then again going
- 35:08Speaker 2: back to the second game this week, This is when
- 35:10Speaker 2: you need to evaluate your guys that you're going to
- 35:13Speaker 2: be trying to figure out are they good enough to
- 35:15Speaker 2: be on our roster, are they good enough to be
- 35:17Speaker 2: with the fifty three, or are they good enough to
- 35:20Speaker 2: be on our sixteen man practice squad. This game is
- 35:22Speaker 2: going to be, in some cases, the last opportunity for
- 35:27Speaker 2: some guys to show something to this coaching staff and
- 35:30Speaker 2: this personnel staff. Let's see it, let's see it under
- 35:33Speaker 2: the lights in the dome on Saturday. And there's lots
- 35:36Speaker 2: of positions, I mean, defensively, the cornerback position you've got
- 35:40Speaker 2: to take a strong look at. That's probably if you
- 35:43Speaker 2: look at all the positions across this football team, that's
- 35:46Speaker 2: the number one position that the coaching staff and the
- 35:49Speaker 2: personnel staff are sitting there going somebody please step up,
- 35:54Speaker 2: Somebody show me, and not to where they make my
- 35:58Speaker 2: decision easier, where you're clearly the best choice. Who are
- 36:02Speaker 2: some of those guys you mentioned Gregory Jr. Second year guy.
- 36:05Speaker 2: But there's a couple guys they drafted last year, a
- 36:08Speaker 2: couple of this year that could be in that mix
- 36:10Speaker 2: to maybe get one or two out of right. I mean,
- 36:13Speaker 2: here to the list, Deviad Wilson, who's an undrafted guy
- 36:16Speaker 2: from Central Florida, Eric Hallett who's a draft pick from Pittsburgh,
- 36:20Speaker 2: Gregory Junior, who, like Kay said, had a very strong
- 36:23Speaker 2: start calls fumble, recover, fumble, one on special teams, one
- 36:26Speaker 2: on defense last week. Clay Brooks is going to have
- 36:29Speaker 2: to show something. But the one thing Clay Brooks has,
- 36:31Speaker 2: Clay Brooks is hands down the best gunner on this
- 36:34Speaker 2: football team. Best the best gunner on this football team,
- 36:38Speaker 2: and that's a critical part of special teams. Tavon Campbell
- 36:41Speaker 2: another guy that's gonna have to show something in this game.
- 36:44Speaker 2: Caleb Hayes is kind of out on the outside looking
- 36:46Speaker 2: in right now. Broswell had the diving interception in the
- 36:50Speaker 2: Dallas game that was impressive. Montera Brown kind of an
- 36:53Speaker 2: ass start against Dallas. He's got to show something. And
- 36:56Speaker 2: and Trey Herton and you know what you're gonna get,
- 36:58Speaker 2: Steady good Hackler physical, can play excellent zone, but at
- 37:04Speaker 2: times if you can't put it this way. You couldn't
- 37:06Speaker 2: line Trey Herndett up against Christian Kirkin slot and play man. Okay,
- 37:12Speaker 2: you couldn't do it. I mean, right now, that's the
- 37:15Speaker 2: that's the question the Jaguars are trying to answer. Who
- 37:18Speaker 2: can we line up to cover a Christian Kirk in
- 37:21Speaker 2: the slot when we go to Nickel? And right now
- 37:24Speaker 2: they don't have a definitive answer. That's what they need
- 37:27Speaker 2: this preseason at that position. I don't know how many
- 37:30Speaker 2: teams actually have that answer, though there's some teams that do.
- 37:33Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles last year had the three best corners
- 37:36Speaker 2: in football, you know. I mean, that's one of the
- 37:38Speaker 2: reasons why they went to the Super Bowl. You know,
- 37:40Speaker 2: look at the Kansas City Chiefs. They struck gold on
- 37:43Speaker 2: some late round picks at the corner position, and they
- 37:46Speaker 2: were young, but they were playing well in the back end,
- 37:48Speaker 2: and part of that was due because they had some
- 37:51Speaker 2: guy by the name of Chris Jones upfront who was dominant. Okay, okay,
- 37:56Speaker 2: So then the Jaguars are trying to find a little
- 37:58Speaker 2: bit of answers in both play says Okay, that third position,
- 38:02Speaker 2: uh Nickel. And then when I say third position, I'm
- 38:04Speaker 2: not singling out cornerback because the Jaguars are gonna have
- 38:07Speaker 2: some options that playing safety at that position as well.
- 38:10Speaker 2: They did it last year with winger plug kicking down
- 38:13Speaker 2: in there and playing that nickel or that dime at
- 38:15Speaker 2: times and so uh. And then also the question about
- 38:18Speaker 2: past rush. Who is gonna be the four guys that
- 38:22Speaker 2: are going to rush the passer when they get the
- 38:23Speaker 2: regular season? Right now? Ky, who give me four your
- 38:26Speaker 2: favorite four guys right now? If you're gonna line up
- 38:28Speaker 2: four guys to rush the pass or week one, give
- 38:31Speaker 2: me your four third and eight Jaguars defense on the field.
- 38:34Speaker 4: You got guy Trayvon Josh. I don't know. I'm not sure.
- 38:40Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd's been having great camp, but I don't know
- 38:41Speaker 5: if he's gonna straight bump the line.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta give me four.
- 38:46Speaker 5: The fourth one is to be named, I can't say
- 38:49Speaker 5: for sure, and I'm sure.
- 38:52Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd, Devin layd okay, JP, give me your four
- 38:56Speaker 2: and four Trayvon Walker. I would probably put Roy Robertson
- 39:02Speaker 2: Harris out there, Okay, pass rush and yeah, it's tough.
- 39:08Speaker 2: That fourth one's tough right now. It is really tough.
- 39:11Speaker 2: It is. It's almost like, do you put Devon Hamilton
- 39:13Speaker 2: out there like he's been one of your most consistent
- 39:17Speaker 2: pass rushers in training camp gets great push. Last year
- 39:20Speaker 2: most successful pass rusher from the interior of the Jaguars
- 39:23Speaker 2: defensive front, okay, and this year he has shown nothing
- 39:26Speaker 2: but having success there as well. Roy Robertson Harris has
- 39:29Speaker 2: also been pretty strong. He can. It's poor Devine. He's
- 39:31Speaker 2: gonna play like every down on defense. And here's the
- 39:35Speaker 2: part I think that's gonna be interesting. I mean, he's
- 39:37Speaker 2: a three hundred and thirty five pound guy that you
- 39:39Speaker 2: just paid a significant contract to. Okay, but most people
- 39:43Speaker 2: look at him as a first and second down guy.
- 39:46Speaker 2: I don't look at him that way. I look at
- 39:49Speaker 2: him as a guy that can play on third down
- 39:51Speaker 2: as well, because he's a big man that can push
- 39:53Speaker 2: the pocket. And if I'm an edge rusher, gave me
- 39:55Speaker 2: a big man that can push the pocket every time.
- 39:58Speaker 2: It makes my life easier as an edge rusher. So
- 40:01Speaker 2: I like Devon Hamilton. On the inside. I like Devon,
- 40:04Speaker 2: I like Roy, and I also like the possibility of
- 40:06Speaker 2: kicking Trayvon down into the middle. To give a guy
- 40:09Speaker 2: who's big, who's strong, who also has a little bit
- 40:12Speaker 2: more athleticism than most of the defensive tackles and I'm
- 40:15Speaker 2: gonna stick with it now. I mean, fifty six has
- 40:17Speaker 2: got some natural pass rushing abilities, sere Abdula you're talking
- 40:20Speaker 2: about Yes, yeah, B fifty six to everybody, we're gonna
- 40:25Speaker 2: get in there. Yeah a little bit. I just kidd
- 40:26Speaker 2: a little bit. How's jags A am going?
- 40:28Speaker 4: Kay, it's going great. We're getting our groop.
- 40:31Speaker 5: We're on location for these two days and then we're
- 40:33Speaker 5: gonna be heading back and we do have some surprises
- 40:35Speaker 5: coming soon for the season, so it'll be fun, some
- 40:38Speaker 5: changes and new looks, all those.
- 40:39Speaker 4: Things, rises surprises. I know you're not up at that hour.
- 40:42Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. You are up at that hour. You're
- 40:43Speaker 4: just hanging out by yourself.
- 40:45Speaker 5: JP comes into the studio in the morning and he's
- 40:47Speaker 5: has his alone time for two hours and he's always
- 40:49Speaker 5: jamming out by the time I come in.
- 40:50Speaker 2: That's exactly what happens. Actually, Hey, and you're gonna be
- 40:54Speaker 2: on the sidelines again.
- 40:55Speaker 5: I am doing the radio broadcast tomorrow with my friend
- 40:58Speaker 5: over here, and it's been fun.
- 41:00Speaker 2: Yeah, she's doing a great job. But it's been great
- 41:02Speaker 2: because you know what, I love stories, and she tells stories.
- 41:05Speaker 4: From that I love a story. I love to tell
- 41:08Speaker 4: a good story, so please tune in. We don't know
- 41:10Speaker 4: who's playing yet, but we'll be there, Kay Stevens.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Will be there for sure. Thanks for coming downstairs here
- 41:15Speaker 2: at the Hotel for sure. Back in a moment. Plenty
- 41:18Speaker 2: more ahead. Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by the
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- 41:28Speaker 2: o'clock it's the Doug Peterson Show. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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- 41:46Speaker 2: Jags and the Lions coming up pre season Week two, Saturday,
- 41:48Speaker 2: one o'clock kickoff time at Ford Field. We're on ten
- 41:51Speaker 2: ten xl AM, ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com,
- 41:55Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube here on Jaguars Happy Hour, The Doug Peterson
- 41:58Speaker 2: Show coming up at five five o'clock and it's time
- 42:01Speaker 2: now for the injury report, presented by Baptist Health and
- 42:03Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider of
- 42:08Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. A few names starting to add to
- 42:12Speaker 2: the list here. Dewan Smooth still in the active physically
- 42:15Speaker 2: unable to perform list. He's off to the side getting
- 42:18Speaker 2: work and it could be into the season before we
- 42:21Speaker 2: even see him start to get closer and closer. Tyler Shatley,
- 42:25Speaker 2: the Jaguars interior offensive lineman, still off to the side
- 42:29Speaker 2: after the aphib episode of about a week or so ago.
- 42:32Speaker 2: Now Koy Kronk off to the side again. Today. Anton
- 42:35Speaker 2: Harrison had some one on one work, as we referenced
- 42:38Speaker 2: earlier logs the right tackle, but in teamwork did not
- 42:41Speaker 2: get out there today and probably we'll probably see him
- 42:44Speaker 2: in the game on Saturday against the Lions. Ross mannisk
- 42:47Speaker 2: still unavailable. Carson tinker is here. Was signed. He's snapping,
- 42:53Speaker 2: which is he's funny. Carson Tinkers. He's a super nice
- 42:58Speaker 2: guy and he's got ten years in the National Football League.
- 43:03Speaker 2: Last year he was with the Seattle Seahawks. Talked with
- 43:06Speaker 2: him today for a good bit and and he knows
- 43:08Speaker 2: he's kind of towards the end, but he's had a
- 43:11Speaker 2: very successful career as a long snapper that started in
- 43:14Speaker 2: Jacksonville and also had a highly successful college career. We did.
- 43:19Speaker 2: And so he's been he's been around the block. It
- 43:22Speaker 2: ain't over till it's over. And and when the phone
- 43:25Speaker 2: stops ringing, it's over. And the phone hasn't stopped ringing
- 43:27Speaker 2: yet for Carson, and he's uh. He lives in Texas.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Him and his wife have one child, another one on
- 43:35Speaker 2: the way, and you know, and he's in a good place.
- 43:37Speaker 2: He cay Ran. He was yesterday in practice and I'm
- 43:40Speaker 2: sitting there, you know where we were at. We're in
- 43:41Speaker 2: the middle of the field and so we're in the
- 43:43Speaker 2: middle of two fields so we can watch both sides,
- 43:46Speaker 2: offense and defense work against the Detroit Lions. And I'm
- 43:49Speaker 2: sitting there and else and I stand up and all
- 43:51Speaker 2: of a sudden, somebody waxed me in the stomach. And
- 43:54Speaker 2: you know, I wish I would have seen it coming.
- 43:56Speaker 2: I would have tightened it up a little bit it
- 43:58Speaker 2: so wouldn't feel so soft, you know, But it was Taker.
- 44:01Speaker 2: He's running by and he slaps me in the mid section.
- 44:04Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, come on, tank. But he's
- 44:07Speaker 2: a nice guy. And he's still a good long snapper.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Long Snappers can have careers in the National Football League
- 44:14Speaker 2: eighteen years, nineteen years if they're good and they take
- 44:17Speaker 2: care of themselves. If you're really good at it, you
- 44:20Speaker 2: don't notice it. If you're not so good at it,
- 44:22Speaker 2: you won't be doing it long because it'll cost your
- 44:24Speaker 2: team football games, those handful of snaps of game if
- 44:27Speaker 2: you get them wrong. He goes along, But Carson was
- 44:31Speaker 2: telling me this, he said, you know, he said, typically,
- 44:33Speaker 2: you know, when you try to rank things as far
- 44:36Speaker 2: as okay, I'm a long snapper, and everything, you start
- 44:40Speaker 2: in stages, okay, like no pads beginning, that would be
- 44:42Speaker 2: at the beginning, and then the next step okay, pads
- 44:46Speaker 2: against your own team, and then okay, then you do
- 44:49Speaker 2: live with your own team. Okay. Then you go to
- 44:51Speaker 2: this fourth step, and that's practicing against another team in pads,
- 44:56Speaker 2: you know, and then after that it's a preseason game.
- 44:58Speaker 2: He goes. Look, he goes, it's not easy having the
- 45:01Speaker 2: first step be full pads with a practice against another team.
- 45:06Speaker 2: He goes, I woke up this morning. He goes my
- 45:08Speaker 2: next door, my body store, and I was like, yeah,
- 45:11Speaker 2: that's all right, you know the drill. It's a long
- 45:13Speaker 2: way from playing co ed softball a few weeks ago
- 45:15Speaker 2: to playing and now in practice and training camp. A
- 45:18Speaker 2: few other names on the injury report, of course, Antonio Johnson,
- 45:21Speaker 2: rookie safety off to the side hamstring issue. Could be
- 45:25Speaker 2: a little bit of time for him. Fatacasi week to week,
- 45:29Speaker 2: We'll see if he's ready for week one. Josh Wells tackle.
- 45:34Speaker 2: He was not available today and missed the end of
- 45:37Speaker 2: practice yesterday, so we'll see his status moving ahead. That
- 45:40Speaker 2: could be a little bit of time as well. Yeah,
- 45:42Speaker 2: the one thing about Corey Kronk, I think he's gonna
- 45:44Speaker 2: be okay. He ended up getting some team reps at
- 45:48Speaker 2: the latter part of practice today, so that was encouraging. Good. Good,
- 45:52Speaker 2: Let's see him out there. There's a chance for him
- 45:55Speaker 2: this game coming up Saturday. Well, I mean the reason
- 45:56Speaker 2: I bring that up is offensive lineman, right, talking about
- 46:01Speaker 2: Anton Harrison with a shoulder, Josh Wells with like a
- 46:04Speaker 2: hip groin, and Shatley with the aphibs stuff. I mean,
- 46:08Speaker 2: so look, you just don't want to have anybody else
- 46:11Speaker 2: added to that offensive line injury list, not at all,
- 46:14Speaker 2: certainly not Doug Peterson show is coming up. Head coach
- 46:17Speaker 2: Doug Peterson will join us week one ahead of the
- 46:20Speaker 2: Jaguars Colts game up at Lucas Oil Stadium. That's a
- 46:23Speaker 2: few weeks away from now. I will hear a little
- 46:25Speaker 2: bit from Doug in the press conference. He spoke yesterday
- 46:28Speaker 2: before practice, not today. We'll get some of those thoughts
- 46:32Speaker 2: from the head coach coming up. We'll also here from
- 46:34Speaker 2: Jamal Agnu, Jaguars wide receiver and kick returner back in
- 46:39Speaker 2: Detroit and hearing it from that other sideline. A lot
- 46:42Speaker 2: of the chippiness the last two days that Jamal has
- 46:45Speaker 2: not instigated it, but he has been the recipient of
- 46:48Speaker 2: some of that, and we'll get his thoughts on that
- 46:50Speaker 2: and the kick return game. This could be a change
- 46:54Speaker 2: in the NFL this year. It's a one year trial
- 46:56Speaker 2: for the fair catch on kickoffs. I don't think he's
- 46:59Speaker 2: gonna be fair catch too often. If he had anything
- 47:01Speaker 2: to say about it, we'll see. It's a It's something
- 47:04Speaker 2: we'll hear from Jamal about coming up. I'm interested. He's
- 47:07Speaker 2: got a skill set that and it'll be interesting. I mean,
- 47:10Speaker 2: like a lot of coaches that don't have a Jamal
- 47:13Speaker 2: Agnew are gonna tell their return guy go ahead and
- 47:16Speaker 2: just fair catch it. We'll take it on the twenty five.
- 47:19Speaker 2: But when you have a guy like a Jamal Agnew
- 47:22Speaker 2: who has multiple returns for touchdowns, including a field goal
- 47:27Speaker 2: return for a touchdown, you're gonna give him every opportunity
- 47:31Speaker 2: to create a big play and down the stretch. Last
- 47:33Speaker 2: year he created some great field position for the Jaguars
- 47:36Speaker 2: football team. And now other teams will see that tape
- 47:40Speaker 2: obviously and maybe strategize to pop it up and force
- 47:43Speaker 2: a fair catcher, pen him in the corner or whatever
- 47:46Speaker 2: that could be, and we'll see how the Jags adjust
- 47:48Speaker 2: from that. We're a little ahead of things. Look, when
- 47:51Speaker 2: you have a guy that makes you start to change
- 47:55Speaker 2: the way you do things, as you know the other
- 47:57Speaker 2: teams coming in I'm talking about, yes, and that means
- 48:01Speaker 2: you're doing pretty good from the standpoint of your guy
- 48:04Speaker 2: is really good, and that's making the other opponent do
- 48:07Speaker 2: things differently than they want to do. Think about four
- 48:10Speaker 2: years ago, this guy was a defensive back too, and now,
- 48:13Speaker 2: which is crazy offense, Who in the world put him
- 48:18Speaker 2: at defensive back? Going all the way back to pee
- 48:20Speaker 2: wee or high school or college whenever they pigeonholed him
- 48:23Speaker 2: to the defensive side of the ball. With the skill
- 48:26Speaker 2: set that he has, I mean, he's got great open
- 48:29Speaker 2: space ability. And then the NFL is a space game now,
- 48:32Speaker 2: I mean, whoever made that decision or that call, Hey,
- 48:36Speaker 2: you're going to be a defensive back, they should be fired. Really,
- 48:40Speaker 2: they're gonna go back and fire them from firom Okay
- 48:42Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. Fire that's like putting Trevor Lawrence and
- 48:46Speaker 2: having him play safety. What are you doing, Agnes? And
- 48:51Speaker 2: he's an offensive weapon. He does he can do everything
- 48:54Speaker 2: he really can. He probably could play defensive back in
- 48:57Speaker 2: a pinch. Put him in motion. They can toss it
- 49:00Speaker 2: to him, sweep him around, run regular wide receiver routes
- 49:04Speaker 2: and everything that comes. When you talk to coordinators that
- 49:07Speaker 2: and I know a bunch of them that come in
- 49:09Speaker 2: to play the Jaguars last year, they always talk about
- 49:13Speaker 2: Jamal Agnew. They're the opposing the opponent. Special teams coordinators
- 49:18Speaker 2: always talk about Jamal Agnew. When you're facing a guy
- 49:22Speaker 2: that you know has the ability to score with one touch,
- 49:26Speaker 2: he's a factor and you always have to adjust with
- 49:30Speaker 2: a guy like that, And that's that's a great thing
- 49:33Speaker 2: about Agnew and with all the other weapons on the
- 49:35Speaker 2: field on offense, it open things up for him if
- 49:38Speaker 2: you're covering him. It opened things up for other guys
- 49:41Speaker 2: on this offense. A lot to look forward to on
- 49:42Speaker 2: the offensive side of the foot, a plethora of weapons. Indeed,
- 49:47Speaker 2: we're back in a moment the Doug Peterson Show coming
- 49:50Speaker 2: up next on the network will Here are a couple
- 49:52Speaker 2: of thoughts from Echoes. Doug Peterson in his press conference
- 49:55Speaker 2: yesterday before practice the Jaguars and Lions is wrapped up
- 49:59Speaker 2: two days of went practices in Allen Park, Michigan. Uh,
- 50:03Speaker 2: we're back in a moment with the Doug Peterson Show.
- 50:05Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy our m