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Subliminal Messages In Music · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show.
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  Speaker 3: Well this time you didn't.
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  Speaker 4: of power caffeine and nicotinize while Adam is doing the
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  Speaker 4: intro and then I have let's go. Connor is here
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 3: I have been.
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  Speaker 2: I've been power caffeinating this morning. I've mostly quit nicotine,
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  Speaker 2: which is a thing I didn't think would be possible
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  Speaker 2: during quarantine.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty impressive because I'd quit and then quarantine happened
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm not not smoking for I
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  Speaker 4: need to go outside at some point.
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  Speaker 2: Well, before you call it too impressive, you have no
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  Speaker 2: idea how high I am right now, because I've just
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  Speaker 2: kind of substituted vaping nicotine for vaping weed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a way to go. I was,
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to stop smoking weed, but it has kind
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  Speaker 4: of become a five day week thing over here as well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm definitely not trying to quit weed. I just
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  Speaker 2: signed up for a weed subscription box. It's fucking magic
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine dollars a month and they just mail you
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  Speaker 2: a fucking box a weed, just.
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  Speaker 4: A bombs, just a fucking loot box.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh goddamn box.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, that does make a decent segue into what we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about this week, because you'll probably want to be
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  Speaker 2: high for this episode. We're talking about subliminal messages in music.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and these are always stories that I think start high.
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  Speaker 4: You know. It's like the first reporting is done high, Yeah, because.
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  Speaker 2: You I feel like you have to be high even
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  Speaker 2: to want to hear that that reverse message and want
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  Speaker 2: to go like put it on a computer and reverse
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  Speaker 2: it to figure out what they're even saying. Like, you
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  Speaker 2: have to be high just to be that curious.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not a scavenger hunt that you go on sober,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the same way you don't go to
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  Speaker 4: the Sonic that's forty five minutes away unless somebody's ship
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  Speaker 4: faced in your car. You know, it's there's got to
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  Speaker 4: be like an instigating, intoxicated element.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And I would argue it's even harder today to
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  Speaker 2: hear these subliminal messages because back in the sixties and
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  Speaker 2: seventies it's all on vinyl.
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  Speaker 3: You could just reverse the record and.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a manual reverse function built into
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  Speaker 4: the you know, physicality of the musical product you own.
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  Speaker 4: Whereas here it's like, if you want to be a
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  Speaker 4: satanic journalist, you gotta go, you gotta download audacity, you
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  Speaker 4: gotta watch like a couple like eight year olds on
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  Speaker 4: YouTube give you a tutorial, you know, like with like
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  Speaker 4: screen recording their Windows XP that's clearly their dad's computer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are still subliminal messages in music today.
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  Speaker 2: There's like, there's so many examples of this. We're talking
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  Speaker 2: about the ten best, but it's it's the ten best
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  Speaker 2: according to me basically, like and people will complain about
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  Speaker 2: that and.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be like, you forgot this one. No I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I just think my examples are more interesting than your examples.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and if it was the ten most popular, it'd
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  Speaker 4: be the one Judas Priest thing, and then the other
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  Speaker 4: nine ones where it kind of sounds like they say
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  Speaker 4: Paul is dead, you know, yeah, like those are the
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  Speaker 4: only way that's the ones that get all depressed. So
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  Speaker 4: you found a few that I hadn't heard of that
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  Speaker 4: you did kind of slip through the cracks.
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  Speaker 2: Culturally, Yeah, there's there's gonna be a few in here
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  Speaker 2: that I think people won't be as familiar with. And
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of the point. I feel like there's some criteria. Yeah, here,
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  Speaker 2: we need it to be audible obviously, like you want
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  Speaker 2: to be able to hear it without doing too much work,
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  Speaker 2: But I also kind of like when it sounds good
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  Speaker 2: played backwards.
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  Speaker 4: Also, yeah, there's got to be like it's got to
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  Speaker 4: be aesthetically compelling enough to kind of crane your ear
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  Speaker 4: to like find the sort of it sounds like you said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's a you've got to make me give
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  Speaker 4: a shit. I think with the Beatles, people are it's
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  Speaker 4: just such a magical story, all of it, and then
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  Speaker 4: all the characters feel so magical in the music has
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  Speaker 4: so much, like I don't know, so many, so many
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  Speaker 4: kind of like implications in everyone's lives. Like it's just
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, it's it's a Christmas music. It's part
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  Speaker 4: of the fabric of you know, culture that people are
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  Speaker 4: just they want there to be more. They they want
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  Speaker 4: to there's like we always got to find there's gotta
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  Speaker 4: be another basement of the well Paul McCartney. Those stories
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  Speaker 4: like every time there's new you know, sort of tidbit
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  Speaker 4: from anybody, it's like huge clickbait. It's huge all over
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  Speaker 4: the place, and I don't know, you're just kind of
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  Speaker 4: strip mining the enjoyment out of it, you know, You're
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  Speaker 4: like it's like yeah, yeah, I mean we can stare
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  Speaker 4: at this how many different ways. But I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: couldn't we just put on Rubber Soul in the car
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  Speaker 4: with their family and call it a day? You know?
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  Speaker 4: Do we have to?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like the Beatles did put a lot of
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  Speaker 2: subliminal stuff in their music, but I think they were
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  Speaker 2: doing it actually to fuck with people, because.
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  Speaker 4: I think we can before tongue in cheek, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 2: We covered it on this podcast. But the Paul is
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  Speaker 2: Dead conspiracy started with a satire article written by a
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  Speaker 2: student at the University of Iowa des Moine or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. Wow, and like the Beatles knew that. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: knew that, but the Internet didn't exist then, so like
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  Speaker 2: there weren't ten thousand people to jump up and yell
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  Speaker 2: bullshit in Unison when that article went up, so people
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  Speaker 2: just like took it as real.
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  Speaker 4: What's funny is little did that college student. No, she
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  Speaker 4: was kind of planting the seeds for QAnon in a way,
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  Speaker 4: because that's a big tent poll of their whole ideology
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  Speaker 4: that every celebrity has been killed and replaced with a clone.
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  Speaker 4: And as soon as they tweet something that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: like out of a line of our like canonical cult
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  Speaker 4: vision of who they are, it's like, well, they got him.
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  Speaker 4: He's been killed, he's a clone. The Rock is a clone.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't realize he's getting the vaccine. He's been cloned.
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  Speaker 2: I know about that conspiracy. I didn't realize QAnon had
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  Speaker 2: absorbed that one also. But that's interesting. It makes sense
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  Speaker 2: that they would because that conspiracy allows you to explain
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  Speaker 2: away so many things, like if there's any inconsistencies, you
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  Speaker 2: can just be like it's a different person.
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  Speaker 4: Now. Yeah, that's kind of has done with conspiracies. What
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  Speaker 4: like the sort of smart empires of the ancient world
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  Speaker 4: did where they're like, you can everybody can keep all
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  Speaker 4: their gods and their traditions as long as you march
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  Speaker 4: under the flag. That there are children under Central Park
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  Speaker 4: and Donald Trump is trying desperate to free them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of how flat earth conspiracies work too.
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  Speaker 4: It's just yeah, it's like, just if you're a reiki girl,
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  Speaker 4: if you're an Epstein guy, whatever you are, just come on,
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  Speaker 4: come on in. Water is warm.
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  Speaker 2: So before we get into subliminal messages in the songs themselves,
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  Speaker 2: one thing that's interesting is there is actually some evidence
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  Speaker 2: that this kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Works with music.
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  Speaker 2: There were these researchers in Switzerland. This happened in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 4: These stories always come out of Switzerland. It's like they
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  Speaker 4: got they have no kind of big looming problems to them.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, I know, that's all snow here, this global
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  Speaker 4: warming thing. I mean, we can we can live in
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  Speaker 4: an eighty degree Switzerland. It's like, eh, we've been neutral
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  Speaker 4: for hundreds of years. We don't really need a big
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  Speaker 4: standing army or any big military developments. It's all they're
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  Speaker 4: just making better chocolate and finding out if dogs can
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  Speaker 4: like taste colors.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's always like they produced the most like late night
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  Speaker 4: talk show science news of any country. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to just be that they don't have
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  Speaker 2: any wars to fight, so what else is there to
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  Speaker 2: spend money on? Then figuring out if you can send
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  Speaker 2: subliminal messages in a Van Halen song. So it's these
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  Speaker 2: two PhD students, Simon Tanner and Manuel Echelberger from the
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  Speaker 2: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich. They spent six
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  Speaker 2: months creating a method to send data hidden in music,
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  Speaker 2: and it's undetectable to the human ear. It basically works
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  Speaker 2: like an audio version of a QR code or the
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  Speaker 2: metadata that's in a digital photo.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so you can you can kind of scan
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  Speaker 4: it using a computer algorithm, but it's indecipherable to just
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  Speaker 4: a run of the mill layman brain. It's not like
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  Speaker 4: something where you can put it on and then oh, fuck,
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  Speaker 4: I want to kill my dad. Now it really got
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  Speaker 4: under my skin. It's like you have to scan it,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So it's like it's more of like a
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  Speaker 4: that to me is more of an Easter egg and
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  Speaker 4: less of a satanic programming device, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the part where you still have to use
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  Speaker 2: your phone to do it. Like, the way this would
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  Speaker 2: work is like it's all gonna like we're so terrified
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  Speaker 2: of all of this, and even in every sci fi
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  Speaker 2: vision of the future, all this shit ever comes down
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  Speaker 2: to advertising, and like, yah, what would happen here is
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  Speaker 2: you're listening to an Ariana Grande song and you get
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  Speaker 2: a pop up on your phone that says, hey, Ariana
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  Speaker 2: Grande is on OnlyFans now, and some click this link
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  Speaker 2: to visit, Like you still need some interaction with a
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  Speaker 2: physical thing for this to work.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you want to talk about feeding all the
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  Speaker 4: hungry people in the world if she could just bite
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  Speaker 4: the book, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So if this data wasn't masked by music, it
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  Speaker 2: would just sound like random static mixed with a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of unpleasant beeps.
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  Speaker 4: So like it just sounds like you got the song
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  Speaker 4: off LimeWire, not that there was a hidden message in there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would sound like early two thousands Radiohead basically
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  Speaker 2: just yeah, yeah, bleeps and bloops and unpleasantness.
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  Speaker 4: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But also it can only transmit like twenty five characters
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  Speaker 2: at a time, so this isn't as of right now.
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  Speaker 4: We got like a pager level of technology here. You
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  Speaker 4: gotta since when one eight seven. If you're mad at them,
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  Speaker 4: you know you got you got to learn a whole
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  Speaker 4: kind of like tween code.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those things that's going to
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  Speaker 2: require like Elon Musk's neuralink thing to really work.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Oh my god, I've been looking into a
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  Speaker 4: lot of that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's creepy. At shit, it's it's very creepy.
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  Speaker 4: But then I also go like, well, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just a I don't know if you call me
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  Speaker 4: a thrill sneaker, but I have a lot of wander lust.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like that sounds like a kind of a
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  Speaker 4: fresh and exciting new way to become insane is having
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  Speaker 4: my brain hooked up to the you know, be one
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  Speaker 4: of the first people to do that, Like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: why not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And who am I to not become enslaved with the
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  Speaker 2: rest of society, Like I'm that I'm that special that
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to submit to the machine for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Too, at least like the honeymoon years when it's I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, I'm sure that they're you know, I'd be better
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  Speaker 4: off drinking distilled water, But I mean that tap water.
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  Speaker 4: If it's making any of this modern life of mine
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  Speaker 4: that I'm kind of stuck in more palatable. Who am
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  Speaker 4: I to not, you know, exactly take my medicine? You know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe they're right, Maybe it will be. I've always advocated
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  Speaker 4: for that, that dystopian version of the future where a
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  Speaker 4: central computer just makes all our decisions. Oh yeah, where
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  Speaker 4: we have like an AI god.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's so stress free.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that, and that would, uh would cut
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  Speaker 4: a lot of corners, you know, sure, like, well, let's
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  Speaker 4: go ask Roboto you know, or whatever. You know, we'd
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  Speaker 4: have to give it a cool name. Yeah. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like the problem with these scientists is they're so you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, calling it a fucking cyber truck and everything
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  Speaker 4: like that. It's like it would have some like lame name,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and we'd have to be like, Okay, let's
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  Speaker 4: let's go talk to the great machine. I know that
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  Speaker 4: sounds like it came right out of a fucking season
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: four futur ONMA episode that no one remembers, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're going with it.
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  Speaker 2: In one of my favorite books, This Perfect Day by
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  Speaker 2: Ira Leven, the central computer is called UNI, which that's
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  Speaker 2: not like that.
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  Speaker 4: It's not bad.
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  Speaker 3: UNI's not bad.
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  Speaker 2: Because it sounds cute, but also it's like it's also
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  Speaker 2: kind of ominous, like any any name.
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  Speaker 4: That could also be the name of like a for
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  Speaker 4: chane E girl character that people are married to. Is
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  Speaker 4: it like a desktop and a mousepad?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's talk about some of these songs. I
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  Speaker 2: like I said, I feel like I want these to
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  Speaker 2: also sound good backwards like that's one of my criteria,
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  Speaker 2: and you also have to really be able to hear it.
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  Speaker 2: And for that reason, bottom of the list. The only
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  Speaker 2: Beatles song I'm gonna put on the fucking list because
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  Speaker 2: John Lennon was obnoxious with this kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but the.
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  Speaker 2: One part where I think it was kind of interesting
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  Speaker 2: and where if it was intentional, I think they were
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  Speaker 2: kind of fucking with the fans by this point.
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of.
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  Speaker 2: The song I'm so tired, John Lennon says something that
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  Speaker 2: is it's almost inaudible, and it's also in reverse. So
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  Speaker 2: what he's actually saying is this, let's listen, listen.
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  Speaker 4: Is its in to be Yeah, And it's sort of
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  Speaker 4: the mumbling that your buddy does in between throwing up
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  Speaker 4: at the toilet. You know, it's like very.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the gibberist part. Here's the backwards parts.
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  Speaker 4: Missis see.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like people probably still might not have even
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  Speaker 2: heard it. Yeah, and that's why this one is at
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  Speaker 2: the bottom of the list. What he's it sounds like
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  Speaker 2: he is saying when you play that section at the
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  Speaker 2: end of I'm So Tired in reverse, is Paul is dead?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 3: Miss him? Miss him? Miss him?
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  Speaker 2: Which if that, if that was intentional, they're just fucking
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  Speaker 2: with people. Man, Paul McCartney did not die in a
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  Speaker 2: car accident. There's not a second Paul McCartney.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not even convinced that John Lennon would have missed
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  Speaker 4: him very much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. John Lennon probably would have been psyched.
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  Speaker 4: Like, oh fucking think I could write all the songs now, Okay, And.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about the wide album era. So the Beatles
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  Speaker 2: really hated each other by this point.
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  Speaker 3: Was I'm So Tired on the White album?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, John Lennon was way over
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  Speaker 2: missing Paul McCartney by this point, unless he just hated
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  Speaker 2: new Paul McCartney.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe the new Paul was like he never realized
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  Speaker 4: how good he had it. It's like this guy with
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  Speaker 4: the fucking toenail clippings and this song My Darling is
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  Speaker 4: so fucking hacky.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did near the end there, man, Paul McCartney
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  Speaker 2: songs did get like I hate the Long and Winding Road,
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  Speaker 2: I hate Let It Be, I hate hate Jude, I
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  Speaker 2: hate all of those inspirational Paul McCartney ballads, but I
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  Speaker 2: love Paul McCartney's Beatles songs overall, Like Rocky Raccoon is
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  Speaker 2: fucking great.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's one of the great ones. Yeah, yeah, fuck, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean it's that song so much.
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  Speaker 4: I like them all, but it does get a little
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  Speaker 4: like there are a few where it's just like you
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  Speaker 4: can tell he's just so excited to do his little
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  Speaker 4: fucking show busy Paul McGoo thing, and he's like woo
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  Speaker 4: doo doo. You know, he's got that face and he's
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  Speaker 4: just bopping around, and I just like to imagine when
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  Speaker 4: he brings those in and just like John just fucking
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  Speaker 4: pouring a drink. Uh huh. They great. Another one of
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  Speaker 4: the fucking these man awesome, And this is really this
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  Speaker 4: is art we're making.
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  Speaker 3: Paul, have you ever seen the Let It Be documentary.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've seen good amounts of that. Yeah, wildly
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  Speaker 4: uncomfortable to watch.
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  Speaker 3: It is painful to watch, and I love it so much.
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  Speaker 4: Just like Ringo The Child of Divorce. In the middle,
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  Speaker 4: I played the drums.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the number nine song. Marilyn Manson
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  Speaker 2: Revelation number nine.
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  Speaker 4: Beatles reference too, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a reference to Revolution nine, which is a
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  Speaker 2: fucking obnoxious John Lennon song that is, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 4: Then you know it totally shit about Paul mcarney. It
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  Speaker 4: certain goes both ways because that is one of the
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  Speaker 4: most self indulgent, you know things ever put on wax
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  Speaker 4: just at nine minute sound collige.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's why.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: The Beatles worked so well, because Paul McCartney and John
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Lennon could like temper each other's more extreme tendencies, but
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: then sometimes that they would like get set loose and
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: the results would be stuff like Revolution nine, which is
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: just John Lennon saying number nine a whole bunch and
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: then a sound collage like kind of ship I don't
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: need And that's sort of what this is too, And
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: it's Marilyn Manson.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Which it's like him putting subliminal messages in its song.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: It's like, it's not cool when you do it. You're
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: kind of being a try hard about it, you know
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: what I mean.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing I do like about this is that,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: let's listen to a little bit of it reversed. It
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: sounds good reversed, but so, yeah, it sounds neat. But
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: it was also like they were cool. They were doing
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: it on purpose, and when you listen to the messages,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: it's like it's just typical Marilyn Manson shit. Like at
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: one point he says, you're on the other side now,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: there ain't no going back, and it's just like him
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: being Marilyn Manson, So who cares?
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Kind of Yeah, it's not really that you know, the
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: deep or scary or exciting. Like it's very it's very
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: expected from him, you know, right.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: If Carly ray Jepson did this, I'd be like, what it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Is disappointing that there's not more like.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: That.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: The modern pop culture has less of this kind of
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: like satanic speculation because everything's so you know, segmented now
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: and like bifurcated by online communities. There's not like a
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: lot of monoculture It's like it's not like there's anyone
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: going like all right, half the guys in bts or clones,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: these guys worship the devil. You're listen to this backwards,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: and when you first you got to learn Korean, you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: it's just it's all very, you know, kind of sanitized.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: It stinks that there's not as much of this sort
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: of like on the local news every now anymore.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you still see it, but I just
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: feel like the examples aren't as good, Like there's some
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: suggestion that there's backwards messages in like justin Bieber songs.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: There's not even messages in these songs if you're playing
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: forwards the other thing.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It's just kind of it's and the examples aren't as clear,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: but there is one in here that I would argue
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: is kind of like modern pop music that's really fucking
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: weird you listen to it backwards.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I swear to guy, he's talking about mummies. Now, does
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: that mean the mummies are He's just saying mummy, mummy, mummy.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I mean you tell me, Yeah, it's and I'm sure
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: that's one of the things people will complain about, is
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: that we didn't put a lot of those examples in here,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: but I just don't think they're that compelling. Like yeah,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and I like it, Like I can't picture Britney Spears
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: making that kind of creative decision.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't seem like that would really. You know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: when they're finalizing the out, it's like, and did we
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: do we do we make sure that we shout it
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: out the desecration of care really quick, you know, like.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, on the other hand, she didn't write
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: her songs, so.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: There's there's that. Yeah, it's like she's a tool for Satan.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: What do I know.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Let's get that fat guy with a cassio in the
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: valley we got right in the album to put some
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: some real dank shit about the new World Order and
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: give me more actually about Adrenochrome if you read between
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: the lines.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: But yeah, god, I love the Adrenachrome conspiracy so much.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's one of the best. That the global elite
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: are farming children and using their blood or whatever to
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: make some sort of serum that makes them live forever.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: And that's why Nancy Pelosi looks okay for being eighty.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: It's like, like, look, how young these people. I'm like,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: they don't know, look that great.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah she still looks eighty.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I mean the whole thing is just beaten the Reaper
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: at him obviously.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the number eight song, Motorhead Nightmare Slash
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the dream Time. Here's the thing. This is obviously meant
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: to be played backwards, but it's just so much better
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: than the Marilyn Manson thing because one, it's not Marilyn Manson,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: it's motor Yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: And Motorhead you get a little bit more you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: they were, they're around in the seventies and eighties, so
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you know, you give them a little bit more credence
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: in the whole satanic panic of it all. Whereas Marilyn
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Manson is kind of like, you know, Green Day singing
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: with a fake English accent in nineteen ninety three. You're
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: doing the same pop punk tricks that the Undertones did,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: just making more money, you know.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I like that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: The message that's being conveyed here is it seems like
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: it's kind of geared toward the people who would put
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: on a motor Head record, listen for backwards messages, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: then start that moral panic over those backwards messages. Yeah, yeah,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: let's listen to it. And I think it's it's pretty easy.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: This song was meant to be played backwards, so it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: pretty easy to hear what.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: You know, taking shots at the soccer moms.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Subscribe to. That was the song played in reverse, And
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: what he was saying was, uh, I do not subscribe
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: to your superstitious, narrow minded flights of paranoia. I and
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: people like me will always prevail that fucking rips.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty Uh, it's very fuck you. I won't
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: do what you tell me, you know.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: And I love Motorhead.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I like the examples, Like we're gonna get into a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: lot of examples where they're obviously doing it on purpose,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: so they put a lot of effort and attention into
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the words you hear backwards. And I think that's a
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: good example of that. I appreciate you speaking of Hell.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we were, but let's talk about
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: it now. This one's just fun because it's Slayer, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: like you want Slayer to talk about Hell.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I would say so, yeah, and this I'm not thinking
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: anyone buys a Slayer record and goes the devil again?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Is that what that pentagram means come on.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: This was the first song on Slayer's second album, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: if you play it back.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I barely know her. I think come back.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just fucking awesome.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that rips pretty hard.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: That was all intentional, because, like they were obviously one
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of the bands, especially during the Satanic Panic that people
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: were super up in arms about.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Although I don't know when did the first Slayer.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Album come out, like they're they're the kind of band
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: that's always gonna get.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty one. I think I was just looking at
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: their repeatia earlier. Yeah, I think it was nineteen eighty Well,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: wasn't it. It wasn't The guy that from Quiet Riot
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: that went and did had that big speech he made
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: in front of a I don't know if it was
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Congress or just like a judge or something where he
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: just kind of had this whole kind of articulate spiel
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: about why you know, I had nothing to do with this,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: I'm just a fucking musician, man. It always seemed kind
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: of strange to me that a bent like you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Quiet right, which is like you know, a heavy metal
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: band and a raunchy band or what you know, we're
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: not going to take it very rebellious, but like that
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: not very satanic. You know, at least to my knowledge,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: you're thinking a D.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Snyder from Twisted Sister.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: There you go, Twisted Sister. Yeah, yeahtude, we're not.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: There was a whole like it was.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore, started this campaign in the
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: eighties because she bought her kids a Prince album and actually,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: spoiler alert, heard one of the songs that we're going
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: to talk about here and wanted to know why there
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: wasn't some kind of warning that Prince was going to
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: be singing about dix and tits and things of the like.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: You gotta be pretty white to be like worried about
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: like a five foot four guy who wears like corsets,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: you know, corrupting your children to the devil. You know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: that's like a pretty high level of soccer mommery.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's exactly what it was. It was.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: She started this thing called the Parents Music Resource Center,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and that testimony you're talking about was kind of the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: culmination of that where there was this big anti obscenity
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: campaign and D Snyder testified, Frank Zappa testified, I'm not
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: sure who else. Prince obviously was like, fuck you, I'm
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: not coming to testify, yeah anything.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Princes like I'm not leaving Minneapolis for this shit.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh yeah, it was a whole thing. That's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: why there's parental advisory labels on albums.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Now, whenever I hear Tipper Gore's name, I can't help it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Hear it in Jello biafras like angry Tipper Gore, you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: like I always hear him.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: That's what he was mad about. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: her campaigning on that shit.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Now, this next one is I think one of the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: weirder ones of the bunch because, for one thing, it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: a Nelly.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: For Tado song.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Very odd.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Nellie for Tado song called big Hoops
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Bigger the Better, which I imagine has to be about
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: ear rings, right, like that, what else could that be
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: about unless.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: It's like really see time as a flat circle? Shit.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And this is like, you know, if you're looking
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: for somebody to do this in that lane, I'd be
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: much more likely to look at like Azalea Banks, who's
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: like known for, like, you know, you like kind of
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: interesting episodes in the Internet, your big conspiracy theories, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: she's kind of like down a lot of different rabbit holes.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: But like Nellie for Toato, I kind of like put
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: in the same sort of category of like the Chingey's
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: of the day who just sort of came and went,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: you know, like things that were like around when I
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: was in middle school and then I just haven't fucking
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: they must be just spending their ring tone money. Yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: she hadn't addicted the credon like the rest of us.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: She had that run where she was like associated with
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Timberland and Justin Timberlake and they were all friends and
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: they were all making albums. But yeah, that all like
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: like Justin Timberlake's not like no one even gives a
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: shit about him anymore. But so, yeah, she's a weird
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: vessel for subliminal messages unless it was like on that
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like a Bird song, but this is not. This
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: is on a more recent song.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, let's hear it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So let's listen to this Nelly for Tato thing. It
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: loses some points in the rankings here because to hear it,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you'll hear it better if you use the a cappella
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: version of this song. But I'm gonna this and I'll
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: just play it without telling people what she's going to
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: say first and see if you see, if you pick
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it up.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: It ain't over.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: So this is the single version of this song, like
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: as it was heard on the radio.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Now here's the version played regulars the backage shop. Please please.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Please Yeah.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Here it is in reverse.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Oh my godnding to the thirteenth floor, Fortunes on the
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: eleventh floors to the twelfth floor. Oh my god, I
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: to the thirteenth floor.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Fourteenth.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: On the eleventh floor to the twelfth floor.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: What the fuck?
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Really weird, very weird. I get the part where you're
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: in the studio and you go like, I don't know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: text really is part feels a little flat. Maybe we
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: could kind of layer something in subtly and it's like, well,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: let's maybe just a little backward stuff and then you
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: just kind of get in there in riff a little bit.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: But for for that to be what you pick, it's
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: just kind of odd, you know. And obviously you got
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: the thirteenth floor, which is like, you know, they pick
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: the creepiest number, you know, so doo do do do?
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: But uh yeah, just this is and again to be
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: in a fucking Nelly Fertado song, who's like, I don't
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: know if we're having any kind of political conspiracy stake
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: at anything. And you know this is that's when who's
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: got like any kind of a pet issue or like
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: any sort of like a public take on any kind
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: of thing that's controversial. It's just like, probably let me
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: get in the satanic message game.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: This is the one that feels the most like some
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: CIA shit to me because the messaging is so weird.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: If people didn't pick all of it up. What she
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: was saying was oh my god, descending to the thirteenth floor, fourteenth,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: eleventh floor, descending to the twelfth floor, Like I feel
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: like I just triggered someone to do something by saying that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Just now, there's someone in Kansas who's like, I gotta
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: go kill Bobby Kennedy.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: And it's like, relax, it already happened.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a little late. Well, we know
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: she's not talking about a hotel, because they don't have
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: thirteenth floors in hotels, right, narrows it down. Maybe some
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: kind of a federal building. I don't know.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but that one is weird. And there's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I looked online there's not really somehow, no one has
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: ever sat Nelly Furtado down and been like, hey, what
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the fuck was that? Which blows my mind? That blows
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: my mind, and no one's ever asked it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Well, the more I'm like, do like on a kind
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: of mainstream show business shit, the more I realized, like,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: it's just the idea of nobody's interested in asking hard
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: questions because it's like, well, we wanted to come back,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: so we want to make them look good, So we're
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: gonna just sucking pitch him a bunch of softballs that
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: we could have gotten a fifteen year old in turn
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: to come up with, and then we'll call it a day.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: You know. It kind of bums me out. There's no
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: there's not a lot of Nard Wars out there digging
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: deep and going now, what did you mean? You know?
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: See, I feel like that's where this network in general
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: is at kind of a competitive advantage, because I assume
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: if we ever booked a guest like Nellie Fortado, she
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: would never come back anyway, so we might as well
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: get the hard questions in right out of the gate.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, that was a look when I was
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: in the podcasting game. To me and boys. That was
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: our philosophy as well. It's like, look, we're gonna have
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Steve ran as easy on nine to eleven. We're not
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: gonna tell him that. He's just gonna find out, you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: and then if he doesn't come back, well we did
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: it once, and then you know, it's like, could you
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: do it any better than having him on nine to eleven?
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think more people should have
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the kind of yolo mentality. Like even like Old Letterman
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: was so acidic, you know, paras Oltan would come on
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: and he'd just be like, what the fuck do you do?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: You know, and there's just none of that anymore. Everything's like, oh,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: well we gotta you know, we want him to retweet it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, So now we're getting into the top five
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the heavy hitters number five, Judas Priest better by You,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Better than Me. On the one hand, this should be
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: higher on the list because the band got sued for
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: inciting people to commit suicide over this song.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: It's the kind of the only one that had any
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: real world consequences, unless you want to kind of count
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the Charles Manson Beatles stuff.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Helter Skelter's that's a good example.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: But this Piggy's on that. Yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was like this came this was at
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the heart of the Satanic panic. This is when parents
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: were freaking out about dungeons and dragons and shit like that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: M hm, oh my god. We had a neighbor who
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: was a Christian from north North Dakota and his parents
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: were from North Dakota and we used to play D
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: and D and he would always get in trouble and
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: his mom would yell at him in this stick ass
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: North day. Cool, stop playing your dungeons and dragons and
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: come get your shaken bake.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: It was just like it was so perfect. It's like
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: that's you're playing devil games. Cool. It's fucking awesome. And
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: then and then that makes you, the kids who are
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: allowed to play, like makes you feel pretty cool. It's like, hey,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: we're fucking worshiping the devil in here with these octahedral dice.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: This song like they only got sued because two kids
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: committed suicide after listening to it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: A bunch, big deal, But we were talking about.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Doing the same thing with the grownups movies. You know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: that's not necessarily.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: We were talking about this before we started recording. One
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: of the kids didn't die. He just like he aimed
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the gun the wrong way and shot the front of
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: his face off, but lived for three more years.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had to talk like a muppet.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: It was really sad, and it it reminds me of
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: like if he did do this because of the Judas
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Priest song, which I think he eventually claimed is what happened, Like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: imagine having to live with that, Like my face is
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: like this because of a fucking Judas Priest song.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: And like if you do it when you're you know, fifteen,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: by the time you're eighteen, you're like, I don't even
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: fucking like this band anymore.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of this thing that happened in
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the UK a couple of years ago where this guy
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: he was like eighteen I think at the time, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: he was sitting on a patio with a bunch of
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: his friends.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: They were all super drunk and a.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Banana slug came crawling along and as a drunken dare,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: he was like, I'm gonna eat that banana slug and
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: he did, and it gave him a thing called rat
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: lungworm disease.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: God rat lungworm, Yes, that's not the Potions Professor and
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: the Harry Potter books exactly. Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: And this one of the things this disease did is
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: it put him in this vegetative state where he couldn't
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: move and couldn't talk.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: But he like he got like Johnny got his gunned.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was fully cognitive otherwise, so he was just
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: he was just like garious, trapped in this prison of
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: knowing that he did this to himself because he ate
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: a banana slug.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: And he lived for like six more years and then
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: he died at.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Least Captain Pike and Star Truck when he was inside
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: the big boopety boot machine. It's like, well, he fucking
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: saved the Federation. You know. It's like I'm a prisoner
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: in my own body. But you know, I you know,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: a lot of di lithium was spared. It's some good men,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: but yeah, this motherfucker just on a bar. Dare Oh
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: so I cut my chest oupen listening to Rock and
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Roll Suicide by David Bowie when I was like fourteen,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: and I still like, you know, every time I got
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: to listen to Ziggy Start. That's one of my favorite
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: albums of all time, one of the best albums. It
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: almost ruins it for me because I just start cringing.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, oh god, that's right. I was fourteen,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: fucking stupid.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: That is pretty extreme.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was pretty uh really trying to be a
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: cool guy over there, and she know, yeah, so.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Let's listen to this and backwards.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: The reason it's not higher on the list, even though
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: it's so iconic in terms of stuff like this is
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like you can't really hear whatever you're supposed
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: to be hearing that well here it goes, so somewhere
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: in there you were supposed to have heard Rob Halford.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Say do it, just do it as all it take,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, And even then, like, even if that was
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: how do those kids know that's not a Nike ad?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: How they know he doesn't mean, uh, come out as
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: gay to your parents. Stay in school, you know, the
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: cause Rob Halford cared about Yeah, stay in school because
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: judas priest William that was a gay guy, right, Yeah.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's a lot of the best metal, like the
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: first two Queen albums and all that shit. It's like, yeah,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I do love like a let's say it's kind of
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: a Chuck Polinic fight club thing where it's like, well,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: if you know, bros love it, but did you know.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the so I can barely hear him saying
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: do it and even then, like that was I think
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the point the lawyers made too. It's like, even if
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: you heard us say do it, it doesn't mean suicide,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Like you could have then do your homework. So I
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: think I'm pretty sure Judas Priest won that lawsuit. Like
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: obviously they're not in prison for murder now, so yeah,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: numbers be.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Weird if they were, that would like that would be
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: one of the uh.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: That would have been a big turning point in American history.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have been a pretty big free of
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: his speech cases. If you if you, well you got
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: and then that creates a great job, which is a
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: person who has to listen to every record backwards at
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: the company and kind of crying and it's like, well,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I know it's the big single, but it does sound
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: a little bit like you're saying each your mom.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about number four led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: This one is legitimately creepy to me because the section
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: that you have to reverse to pick up the message
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: is also like one of the most baffling lyrical passages
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: of all time. It's the part where Robert Plant says,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: if there's a bustle in your hedge row, don't be alarmed.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Now it's just a spring clean for the may queen.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Motherfucker. What now, let's listen to it in reverse, sing
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: it a regular queen. Listen close. Oh wait, there's another
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: part to us.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: As you catled that but steal dam.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: All right, Sorry, that one's a lot of fun.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one is. That one does sound pretty cool.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: I heard satan in there. Yeah, he says this also,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: just like bigs, a question of how much trial and
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: error you have to do to like, I know, hedgerow
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: is not really a word, guys, but it was the
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: only thing even close that I could kind of come
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: up with that what that would interpolate to the devil?
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: So if we could just get off my dick for
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: a second, please, you know, like it's.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, more than almost any of them, feels
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: the most intentional to me because he is saying like
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: he's singing gibberish basically.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Then, and this is a big, sprawling composition. It's
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: like that Nelly Fortato song. It's like the one I
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: never heard it in two I mean it sounds like
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: you I could have fucking banged it out on fruity
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: loops in like, you know, two hours. You know, it
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: doesn't it's not like Sterodopaven where it's this big fucking
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: epic composition with all these movements and technical overtures and shit,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and it's like that's the kind of big masterpiece that
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: you want to put some little secret sauce into.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: And Jimmy Page was so into the occult and like
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: he bought a house that belonged that used to belong
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: to Alistair Crowley, Like he was way into.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: This Alistair Crowley again, I hear the name, but he
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: was like.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: A big occult guy, like he's like one of the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: pre eminent figures in Satanism or occult stuff.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: And Antoine Levey kind of a figure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing like when you get yeah,
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: like I heard, uh, I actually heard. Alex John's made
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: a pretty good point about this recently, where he was
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: talking about like what Yeah, once you get to a
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: certain level of wealth and influence in the world, it's like,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: you know, these material things, it's like that you can
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: have whatever you want. Like it's like, yeah, you know,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: there's little differences, but it's like you kind of get
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: bored with all the little indulgences, you know, not that
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: you don't do them and not that you don't participate
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: in them, but you get to a point where you
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: just the obsession with the rich people is finding whatever
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: that little spark of magic is that there is in
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: the world, whatever that whatever that astrology is, whatever that
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: full moon is, whatever the you know, whatever the little
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: the in between the ship and the ether, you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, you totally get it. I see
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: it with people in my own life. It's like, you know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: you get somebody and then it's like, Okay, all of
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: a sudden, we're going to reiki and doing wicca and
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: all this shit. And it's it's interesting, it makes sense.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: I mean even in my own life, it's like, I
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: don't know, I'm not as worried about money as I
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: used to be. And I did spend fucking two hours
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: last night reading a PDF about chaos magic, so it's
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: all very interesting.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this this is another thing that actually didn't
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: come about until the Satanic panic, that this message was
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: in this song wasn't a thing that became public until
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two, when this organization called the Trinity Broadcasting
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Network claimed this message was there and if you weren't
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: able to pick it up, here's what the backwards messages.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Here's to my sweet Satan, the one whose little path
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: would make me sad, whose power is Satan.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: He'll give you, He'll give six sixty six.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: There was a little tool shed where he made us
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: suffer sad, Satan. And it really does sound like he's
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: saying that.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: It.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds a lot clearer than a lot of these,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: and that is very creepy. It's like it's a little gibberishy,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: but there's like enough of a you know, it's like
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: a lyric, you know, it's like you could certainly imply
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: or find some meaning there. And it like the shed,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: you know, the little shed that feels very Yakubian, you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: like he like that's where he, you know, made us
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: out of pigguts or whatever.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Well, also kind of reminds me of the thing that
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: happened during the Satanic Panic, the most which was daycare
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: operators getting thrown in prison for crimes they didn't commit.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: And it was always like, oh there was a shit
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: they would take us too. Where there was a room
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: in the basement, they would take us too. And it
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: like a lot of those convictions happened because of repressed memories.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Oh we're yeah, being pulled out of children who probably
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: aren't old enough to be subjected to that kind of thing,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: and it just all seems so this one seems legitimately weird.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: It's a pretty controversial book because it does happen that
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: people are sexually abusing they were pressed their memories. I've
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: read a lot of shit about this, But there was
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: one woman who kind of started a phenomenon with a
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: book that she read it for the name of it
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Escapes Me about you know, kind of how to tell
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: if you were, you know, actually molested as a child,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: and it was like a basket of symptoms that could
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: be a lot of different things. But it led to
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: this phenomenon where just thousands and thousands of people where
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, like all of a sudden, had
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: kind of these sort of false memories or some people
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: that actually certainly was the case and they had these
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: real memories, and it was like it created this whole
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: kind of I don't know friction, you know, and the
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: PTSD community for many years and kind of sounds like
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: a similar thing. I do. I do like you bringing
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: up that organization that found this in the nineteen eighties
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: because it gives me. It gives me one of my
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: favorite thoughts, which is just a boiler room full of
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: like concerned parents, just like with all these satanic records,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: just listening backwards with a notepad, going, oh, I heard
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: a Is that a bealls a bub? Play that back,
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Imagine being the person who first discovered this, like that
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: would be that would be exhilarating. Oh yeah, Like I
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: bet there's something in there, and then you listen enough
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: and you're like, fuck, you gotta he gotta.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Go up to the front of the room and ring
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the bell and get a candy out of the jar. Yeah.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: They squiggle the marker a little bit on the thermometer
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: on the board. Yeah, yeah, that said.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I am glad that the Eagles got swept up in it,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: because man, fuck the Eagles.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: The Eagles.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: At one point, also in the eighties, probably the same
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: time the led Zeppelin thing came out, people thought they
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: heard a satanic message in hotel California.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Which fun fact, I actually live in the Hotel California.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: This is where they shot the album cover. It's in
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: the lobby. But uh oh really, uh huh yeah, Oh
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: that's awesome. It's not as cool as living in the
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Fight Club building for years and years, but I do
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: my best.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the first un Pop studio was in the fight
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Club building or.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Now every time I drive past it with my girlfriend.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I brought it up maybe two or three times over
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: the you know, the months. Yeah, that's a billy and
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: she knows. Did you know that's really film fight clot?
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I'm like, how fuck you?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: It's an interesting fact. I've shared it myself.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: So so the the Eagles. I just I think this
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: was accidental. But let's listen the they'll play it in
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: regular order than reverse regular order. What see, that's not
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: as convincing. It's really he's supposed to have been saying, Satan,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: here's this he had me believe.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: If I'm looking at the words that you're supposed to
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: be saying and I can't hear it, I feel like
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: it doesn't hold a lot of water.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just like that the Eagles got swept
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: up in that and had to carry a satanic stink
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: with them all throughout the eighties.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a it just doesn't really stick to
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: the image, you know.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Now this next song, this is one, This one is
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: very intentional, and I think it is actually the scariest
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: because it's like, according to Satanic lore, this is actually
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: useful because one of the things that is said to
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: be able to summon demons is reciting the Lord's Prayer
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: in reverse. So this song by a metal band called
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Cradle of Filth, it's called Inner at Deviance Palace, and
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: when you play it backwards, it sounds like this.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty haunting.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the Lord's Prayer.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: So if you've ever listened to that song the regular way,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: you're probably possessed right now because it's the Lord's Prayer
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and reverse that's how you summon demon. So you have
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: one in your home or your phone if nothing else phone,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: it is possessed.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I definitely I like this saying like, you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: you know, whatever, it is just back or like if
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: I do the McDonald's jingle backwards, I get a salad.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: You know, it's like that's kind of a fun. Uh.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it makes sense.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: I got that one has the great that they've layered
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: the ambiance. It's like that definitely sounds like the kind
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: of thing where you'd, as a fourteen year old in
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: your room, you know, with your fucking spike jacket, you'd
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: go mining for messages.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it I'm sure it sounds better reversed
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: because here's the thing. I'm not gonna listen to the
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: regular version. I'm just superstitious enough that like I'd be
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: the guy like I listened to the regular version and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: it's like, fuck, I'm haunted now I gotta.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Move again, you know. And then you find out it's
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: linked to you when not your house, and you're like,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: oh fuck, I.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Gotta call a priest. What are those COVID restrictions gonna be? Like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I'm in California? Can you even get exercised right now?
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: I feel like everybody who's a professional exorcist has not
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: been able to afford to keep their website, you know, yeah,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: renewed on wis dot com at this point in the pandemic.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: You know, it's got to be as far as like
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: luxury expenses. I feel like exorcisms are pretty like, you know,
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: far down the list of like what you'd actually need,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: so it would be a tough time to find like
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: a you know, sort of a hell boy side character
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: to take care of that for you.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, unless you could do it online. I took
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: an eye exam online when the lockdowns first started, and
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: it felt like one of the shadiest things I'd ever done.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: It's like, this can't be how we're just supposed to work.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like everybody knows about the command plus function
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: of every web browser, right is.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: How awesome would it have been if there was some
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: point in that online eye exam where they were like,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: put your eye up to your camera. It's puff of
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: air in your eye. Jesus, you can do that.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: That would be cool.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: So Cradle of Filth Dinner at Deviant's Palace. That is
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: number two, about meeting Jeffrey Epstein in one of his parties.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Actually a lot of people don't know song number one
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: top of the list.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is kind of a curve ball.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: But leave it to Prince to also be the best
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: at subliminal messages, because this.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: This, I mean, he's a master's subliminal messages. He had
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: a big sheet that came up with the Super Bowl
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: so he could have a giant fake guitar cock.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he looked like he was jerking off,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and like almost no one complained because it's Prince.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: More people complained about like Jalo and Shakira's working than
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: they did about Prince's huge rock and roll cock.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: They got I think thirteen hundred complaints over j lo
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: in Shakira.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: That sounds right.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: I was doing a story about that for work, which
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: it's like, how much of a narc do you have
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: to be? Yeah?
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: The only state that didn't complain was Vermont, which is great.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Oh they no complaints for Vermont.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they love Latin as we know that. So Prince
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: on the song Darling Nikki. What I like about this
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: is it's a subliminal message, and it's like, this is
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: kind of what subliminal messages were meant to be, because
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: this is his filthiest, dirtiest song west of Pussy Control.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: This is maybe, yeah, maybe my tambourine.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: But yeah, god damn it. That's a good song.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's a good one.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite print songs.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Dude, there's a guy that lived in this building that
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: was his engineer at Sunset Sound for many years. Oh yeah,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: all these great fucking Prince stories.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh I want to talk to that guy. Yeah.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: I fucking love Tambourine so much.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Uh, but this is this is a filthy song, Darling Nicky.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: This is the song that.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Tipper was one of the horny songs.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the song.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Tipper Gore heard that inspired her to start the Parents'
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Music Resource Center.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: It was Darling Nicky, so.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: You know it's cool.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: She bought her kid's Purple Rain on vinyl for Christmas,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: which cool gift.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but also.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Didn't realize it was gonna be Prince talking dirty.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: She was like, I thought this guy was just a
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: really nice leprechaun with a motorcycle that you know was gonna.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like do your research late watch Purple Rain.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Like, maybe watch Purple Rain first. Oh.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: I watched Purple Rain early in the pandemic, and goddamn,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: is that a fun movie to watch?
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: I wrote it has more callers than any other movie
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: you've ever seen in your life. It's like everybody's outfit
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: has like six unnecessary buckles. It's it all looks very
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: like a Kira you know, it's a he's cool, like
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: tecked out, like you know, I wrote a vice like
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: it's in Victorian England, but everybody's like, you know, gay
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: and on cocaine. It's fantastic.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I wrote a vice article a couple of years ago
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: that really got under people's skin that was called does
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Purple Rain actually Suck? And it was about the movie,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: not the album, And I feel like the movie does
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: kind of suck, Like.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: It's not an amazing it's a fun movie to watch,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: you know, it's the songs.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: It didn't age well.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of misogyny in it, and the acting
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I think is terrible. Sure, the best Prince movie, as
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I mentioned in that.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Art, I just same movie where the bad guy has
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: a big dance number, I mean.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: A plus yeah, I mean that's that's obviously great. But
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: you can also find that in what I would argue
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: is the best Prince movie. Let me see if I can. Oh,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: you've seen the poster Under the Cherry Moon is the
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: best Prince movie. That movie holds up and I feel
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: like it is one of the few examples where we
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: actually see Prince as he was, like, as a regular person,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: like he's so charismatic and funny in that movie, and
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: like everyone hated it because it was like a black
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: and white period piece and people wanted another purple rain.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: But go watch Under the Cherry Moon, America.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: I think I will watch Under the Cherry Moon. It's good, Yeah,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: because he's supposed to be, like, you know, just a
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: wildly charming motherfucker.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I do, honestly feel like it is the closest we
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: ever got to seeing the actual person Prince was, which
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: is crazy to say because the movie is about like
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: a Jigglow who's trying to scam Uh what's her name?
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Damn it, I can't remember her name, but it's one
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: of her first roles.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, stop acting like you didn't have me at Jigglow.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so good.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Let's listen to this reverse message at the end
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: of Darling Nicky because at the end of that song
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: there is a part that plays in reverse. And here's
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: why it's so subversive. See if you can hear what
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: he's saying.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: So at the end of Darling Nikki there is a
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: refreshing bit of apocalyptic gospel music.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like the only kind of Christianity, which
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: is like, buckle your tits because he's coming back and
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be the Lake of Fire, you know.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's and it's I love that he snuck it
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: in on a song like Darling Nicky.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: And he's got the Bitch and Beach Boys harmonies and everything,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: and yeah, uh, he's just the fucking king God.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I love Prince.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: So did Tipper know about that? Did she discovered the
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Jesus message? And in Darling Nikki, would out have changed
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: her mind at all?
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I wonder if she made him go back and put
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: it in as a result of some legal proceedings.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's not in the first pressing.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah you can. I mean, now they have that technology.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: If you want to make like we'll play the dirty
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: version of WAP, you just have to like embed some
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: credit card ads in it.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: And see, I feel like there's so many just SoundCloud,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: you know, like a white guy's making rat beats who
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: are like, oh, I'm gonna use this and I'm gonna
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: put and then three years later they're just depressed because
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: no one's found their secret message inside their you know,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: bound to type beat Kanye instrumental click here.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I am interested to see how
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: far that technology goes now that we have some version
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: of it that might actually work. But I doubt any
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: of the messages here inspired anyone to do anything except
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: maybe like build an apocalypse bunker if you're listening to
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Darling Nikki. But people were doing that in the eighties anyway.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah. And I feel like if there any
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: new subliminal messages in music, is just going to be
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: like a guy cash into twenty thousand dollars check to
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: be try the new Popeyes chicken sandwich. You know, it's
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: like it's not gonna be much more sponsored. You know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: it's just it's just another piece of real estate for
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: you know, to shove intellectual properties into.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: And I know we left a lot of stuff off
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: the list because we I mean we're already over an hour,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Like how long do you want us to talk about this?
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: If you want to tweet at us at Conspira Pops
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: and tell us like your favorite version of this, fine,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: just don't be a dick about it.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Don't don't tweet at.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Me and say, oh, I can't believe you missed this one.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't miss it. I saw it. I just didn't
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: want to talk to the list. You know, yeah, this is
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: the stuff I wanted to talk about. So if you
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: want to twee an example at me, just don't be
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: an asshole.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: You listen to me? All right?
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: So do we have.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Anything to plug before we get out of here? Connor,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: what do you got going on?
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Well? You can watch the new Showmaty for the Netflix
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: after Party, airing every week starting in January. There's a
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: special up right now, you know. Uh, that's it. I mean,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: as you know, nothing nothing else to do. Come see
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: me in Tucson last month.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Very nice. I have a U.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: You can subscribe on Pops networked dot supercast, dot Tech,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Patreon dot com slash on Pops. I might actually have
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: the subscription options embedded on on pops dot com slash
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: subscribe by now also, so go to any of those
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: places to uh to sign up. The next un Pops
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: live show is gonna be January eighth. That's the live
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Zoom comedy show. I don't know who's gonna be on it.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Have you been doing any Zoom shows?
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: I haven't done one?
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: None. Do you want to do? Do you wannado? One?
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I did my first one this month and it was
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: it was actually very fun.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't do the un pops one. Yeah, sure, all right.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Connor mcspaden headliner at un Pop Zoom Show. They are like,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: we get really good crowds and everyone's chill.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Like is good. I mean, I'm doing one for you.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Actually sounds fun, you know.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Keith Carey did the first one. Oh cool, and uh
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: it was great. They've been a lot of fun. I
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: did my first one. I did my first one last
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: month and it was like my first zoom show ever.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Or this month December, so uh, tickets for that will
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: be up soon on Popscomedy dot event, bright dot com.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Not sure who else will be on it. I'm hosting
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the next one. Jeff Mayo be on it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: So we got our white guy quota filled and uh
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: we'll we'll book.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: The rest of the show out made it under the wire.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I think that's it. Let's get the
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: funk out of here. Connor say goodbye, goodbye everybody.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: We love you.