Transcript

02/18/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: It's February eighteenth, and do you know where your special
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Speaker 1: teams coordinator is? The Green Bay Packers just finding out
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Speaker 1: they need one. But you don't need any new entertainment
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Speaker 1: for the next three hours, because we're huddled up with
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Speaker 1: you on Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin on Bill Schmid alongside
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Speaker 1: in for Drew Olsen once again on this beautiful week.
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Speaker 1: He is our Brewers Insider. He is Hunter Bombguard, joining
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Speaker 1: us here from the Hunter Bombguard Show on loan as
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Speaker 1: well as naganote Out, Armansarian and Boys. The folks on
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Speaker 1: YouTube will be able to see, those will be able
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Speaker 1: to understand, and the comments will start rolling through. I
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Speaker 1: assume we have found a new location. We have found
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Speaker 1: a different spot for this show to preside. We also
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Speaker 1: now have like an in studio audience, So this thing
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Speaker 1: is elevating and leveling up here as we continue on
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Speaker 1: day three in the final day on remote into the
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Speaker 1: grape Fruit League.
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Speaker 2: Good morning fellas, Good morning in studio audience. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: excited this.
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Speaker 1: We got in studio audience. Uh, you know, my dad
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Speaker 1: is let's go run mostly running some kind of security
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Speaker 1: because I am just in like a very public place. Uh,
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Speaker 1: this would be like they're like the version of the
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Speaker 1: Hills Coffee Shop. Yes, you're talking about if if you
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Speaker 1: were able to be around with us for the five
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Speaker 1: o'clock hour yesterday, I was evicted. I was evicted from
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Speaker 1: the outside location. And uh, while the hearing did not
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Speaker 1: go down, I think we settled potentially out of court.
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Speaker 2: That's good. Here people were wondering, Billy at a lot
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Speaker 2: of questions.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it came to my attention that that was a
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Speaker 1: spot that we did not want to a tree that
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Speaker 1: we did not want to bark up, right, Like, there
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Speaker 1: are certain spots, there's certain individuals, certain people like you know, hey,
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Speaker 1: people people make claims, people have things to say. We
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Speaker 1: just spot that and end it.
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Speaker 3: Really, yeah, you saw saying the condo kind of runs
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Speaker 3: like an oligarchy. It's not a democracy, and there are
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Speaker 3: some people in power that you might not want to
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Speaker 3: wrestle with. I mean, I understand, like that's okay, and
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Speaker 3: you you, you know, you understand the assignment and you
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Speaker 3: you kind of avoid those kind of avenues. But I
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Speaker 3: guess it's good to know now, Billy, But you are
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Speaker 3: safe and sounded in a safer location. And I gotta
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Speaker 3: be honest, rate your backdrop. I mean that's a ten
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Speaker 3: out of ten. You got books behind you. It's an
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Speaker 3: a hawk look, right, that's what I mean. That is
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Speaker 3: the hawk look.
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Speaker 2: Kind of books we got back there.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure we've got a lot of interesting you know,
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Speaker 3: Is this like the is this the common space? Is
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Speaker 3: there like a library where people to come down? And
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Speaker 3: we got that's the thing.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna potentially have some visitors. There is a workout room.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 1: Workout room.
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Speaker 2: You've been going behind me. You've been going to do
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Speaker 2: a lot of workouts down there, I know, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, potentially potentially going to do some you know, inverted
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Speaker 1: push ups over here. And there's a couple of weight
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Speaker 1: benches of treadmill, so if somebody starts rolling, we're really
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Speaker 1: gonna hear that. But it looks like just a James Patterson.
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Speaker 2: I mean, oh, just love fest back here.
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Speaker 1: I got the mic stacked up on like three James
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Speaker 1: Patterson books. So I got a feeling he's clearly understandably
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Speaker 1: so New York Times bestseller how many different times? Yea,
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Speaker 1: But clearly he's a he's a fan favorite here. But
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Speaker 1: we're in the we're in the little clubhouse area. So
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Speaker 1: this is where all the meetings go down, where the
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Speaker 1: hearing was potentially gonna go down, but Yay closed it
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Speaker 1: down right away and h and had a phenomenal day yesterday.
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, as we're continuing to
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Speaker 1: spin through some Luis ranhifo where we're gonna hear from
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Speaker 1: later on today, we've acquired that audio from spring training
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Speaker 1: as he talks about feeling like the first day of school. Uh,
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Speaker 1: where we've got Wisconsin sports fanatic already asking us if
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Speaker 1: the New Brewers' third basement is better than Caleb Durban.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go hopefully get eyes on Caleb Durbin here
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Speaker 1: later on today. Well, proof will be in the pudding. Hey,
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Speaker 1: Mark Continasio not sold. That's gonna be some fun sound
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Speaker 1: to have. I enjoyed, Mark Continassio giving us a little
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Speaker 1: peak behind the curtain, a peak behind the call history
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Speaker 1: when the Caleb Durban one goes down. But fellas we'd
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Speaker 1: be remiss to not start with the story that it
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Speaker 1: seems like Packers fans have waited, Arman, can you check notes?
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Speaker 1: I believe it was January eighth or January ninth when
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Speaker 1: the Packers were eliminated from the playoffs in that game
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Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears.
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Speaker 2: Oh, firm that for you, but it sounds right.
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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. It was probably January third of twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four, January tenth to tows right. I was in
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Speaker 1: the ballpark. Well, listen, Packers fans wanted rich Pasaci's ass
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Speaker 1: out of here before then, they wanted it after that,
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Speaker 1: and they've wanted it seemingly for the majority of his
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Speaker 1: three seasons in Green Bay, when he was brought in
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Speaker 1: as the highest paid special teams coordinator in football. He
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Speaker 1: steps down last night. Very keywording and very fascinating phrasing
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Speaker 1: in the conversation. But Arman, I was happy for those
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Speaker 1: online that have waited for this moment, and I was
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Speaker 1: glad that Aaron Nagler struck while the iron was hot.
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Speaker 1: I'm the statement of I can shut the heck up
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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, now we're now, it has been. Now,
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Speaker 1: he will be He will be filled in four and
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Speaker 1: he will be replaced. Maybe not on the doing of
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Speaker 1: the head coach. Clearly not on the doing of the
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Speaker 1: head coach. We don't know exactly where some pressure came from.
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Speaker 1: Where conversations came from. But for it to happen on
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Speaker 1: February eighteenth, and we're a week away from the scouting combine.
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Speaker 1: The timing of it is far from normal, right Like
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Speaker 1: it it raises questions and eyebrows when it happens after
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Speaker 1: a historic ten jobs are filled in the head coaching
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Speaker 1: spot and this entire coaching carousel seems to have wrapped up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say timing is not you know, non
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Speaker 3: ideal either because of the coaching carousel situations. You want
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Speaker 3: to try and find a look at start looking at
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Speaker 3: candidates for that position, and I can't imagine that the
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Speaker 3: you know, the cupboard is full right now, right because
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Speaker 3: the hiring cycle's gone.
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Speaker 2: But that's what I thought of too, is it?
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Speaker 3: This is the This news is welcome by a lot
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Speaker 3: of Packer fans who didn't want him there anymore, or
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Speaker 3: at least blamed him for the special teams issues, and
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Speaker 3: we're tired of him being the special teams coach. And
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Speaker 3: the divergence of those fans being happy and everybody else,
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Speaker 3: seemingly coaches and players being sad is one of the
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Speaker 3: biggest divergences ever because there isn't one guy coach or
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Speaker 3: player that's seemingly doesn't love this guy, all right, absolutely
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Speaker 3: love this guy. And for fans, he was obviously the
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Speaker 3: lightning rod, the receptor of the ire of so many
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Speaker 3: Packers fans that were like, all right, we're just done
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Speaker 3: with this guy.
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Speaker 2: We're done with him, and we don't want to hear
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Speaker 2: them about him anymore.
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Speaker 3: Because and listen you, I can't I can't blame Packers
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Speaker 3: fans for thinking that way, because you can logically look
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Speaker 3: at it and say, look this the root of special
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Speaker 3: the root of a lot of our problems has been
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Speaker 3: special teams in playoff losses. And this is a special
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Speaker 3: teams unit that's been in twenty and one, twenty one,
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Speaker 3: thirty first, twenty two, twenty six, in twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 3: twenty eighth, twenty twenty four to thirty second, and then
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Speaker 3: last year twenty eighth. So you're talking about the bottom
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Speaker 3: five of the league basically in terms of special teams rankings,
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Speaker 3: and this man was the unit responsible for it. So
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Speaker 3: logic would state that, you know, whoever's leading the unit
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Speaker 3: that's been one of the worst has to go. I
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Speaker 3: can't blame fans for thinking that. But no matter what coach,
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Speaker 3: player general manager. It is talk about how this is
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Speaker 3: the greatest guy in the world and everyone loves him
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Speaker 3: and he has such a positive I back. So the
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Speaker 3: divergence of opinions on this guy, or at least the
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Speaker 3: divergence of thought on how we perceive him, is truly remarkable,
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Speaker 3: and I think it's fair to say he has he
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Speaker 3: represents the unit that's been failing the team. However, I
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Speaker 3: think we can also reasonably say that he didn't call
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Speaker 3: for the miss to the kick play Brandon McManus, and
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Speaker 3: he didn't call for the drop the on side kick
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Speaker 3: Romeo Dobs. So you have to be kind of judicious
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Speaker 3: and how much blame to really give him. But the
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Speaker 3: reality is he's gone now. And you brought the interesting
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Speaker 3: question up, and I'm sure something we'll talk about whose
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Speaker 3: decision was it, because it didn't seem like the Packers' decision,
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Speaker 3: based on what Matt Lafleur has always said and based
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Speaker 3: on what Goodakoons has said about him, even recently in
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Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: Well in Hunter, I would I struggle to say it
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Speaker 1: wasn't Rich Basaci's decision, right, Like when when you step down,
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Speaker 1: you you make the decision that you don't want to
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Speaker 1: do this one anymore. Now, I'm not gonna say that
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Speaker 1: there's obviously not reasons why you go from talking so
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Speaker 1: glowingly about living in green Bay and being the special
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Speaker 1: teams coach in green Bay, being a part of the
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Speaker 1: organization to all of a sudden saying yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: I'm all good. But if you go back a couple
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Speaker 1: of days, the assistant special Teams coach leaves to take
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Speaker 1: the Browns job, and then here today Bisacchi is also gone,
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Speaker 1: and Arman like you bring up a number of different
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Speaker 1: like statistical benchmarks that they have. I mean, he's Laflour's hiring.
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Speaker 1: It's for special teams coordinator in eight years. In all reality,
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Speaker 1: the average, the mean, whatever special way you want to phrase,
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Speaker 1: the average spot is where they've finished Special teams wise
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Speaker 1: in those eight years. I'd struggle to say it's much
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Speaker 1: better or worse than whatever Rich Pisaci has brought in here.
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Speaker 1: So Hunter, as much as I understand, and I fully do,
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Speaker 1: and I don't believe anything individually would call for Rich
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Speaker 1: Bisacia's who get somewhat elevated or an extension, what have you?
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Speaker 1: I do struggle to wonder if this is a coach
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Speaker 1: problem or more of a systemic issue that you've seen
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, where special teams just hasn't been near
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Speaker 1: the top of the radar for I mean, we say
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Speaker 1: eight years, while the floor's been here for most of
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Speaker 1: our whole lives.
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Speaker 2: It's a long time. It's a long time. And we
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Speaker 2: kind of thought, Okay, Rich Bisancia was the hot coach
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Speaker 2: on the market. We all thought, oh wow, Rich Pisanci
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Speaker 2: is gonna come in and he's going to change this
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Speaker 2: thing around, because he was up for head coaching jobs.
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Speaker 2: He was. He was a guy who was highly thought
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Speaker 2: of around the league and still is obviously for what
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Speaker 2: he can do to a culture. But unfortunately, he just
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Speaker 2: wasn't able to take that special team's unit to where
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Speaker 2: we all wanted him to take that special team's unit.
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Speaker 2: And I thought this quote was interesting when Brian goodacun so,
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Speaker 2: of course he has his end of season presser. It
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Speaker 2: came maybe a little later than we all expected this year,
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Speaker 2: a few weeks after the season, but this is what
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Speaker 2: Brian Goodakoun said about Rich Bisacia just a couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks ago.
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Speaker 4: Rich brings to this our culture, this football team he's
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Speaker 4: very impactful coach around here, you know, certainly, you know,
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Speaker 4: I thought we've been better on teams the last few years,
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Speaker 4: and we've been in a long time. Our cover units
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Speaker 4: have been better. We got one of the best punters
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Speaker 4: in the national football they're going an excellent snapper.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 4: I got a lot of faith and Rich and his staff.
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Speaker 4: What they do around here, not only the x's and
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Speaker 4: o is and what they bring to the field, but
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Speaker 4: what they bring to this place culturally is really important.
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Speaker 2: So we know Matt loves Rich Bisacia and from that publicly. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: you can't always take what a GM says at face value.
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Speaker 2: We know that, right, we've we've heard, you know, the
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Speaker 2: go back to the Aaron Jones quote. I fully expect
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Speaker 2: him to be at or whatever that quote was. Aaron
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Speaker 2: Jones is a bank. You have those types of quotes
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Speaker 2: throughout years of GMS. However, that's some pretty serious praise
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Speaker 2: of Rich Basaci and the culture. Now you look at
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Speaker 2: the numbers, as Arman just pointed out, and it's not
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Speaker 2: necessarily improved as much as Guta kuns puts in that quote.
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Speaker 2: So where this came from was the pressure from somewhere
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Speaker 2: that is a conversation, but it does kind of seem
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Speaker 2: like Rich he was probably feeling it from somewhere in
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Speaker 2: order for this to happen. He obviously wasn't fully happy
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Speaker 2: if he stepped down at this time. I gotta think, well.
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Speaker 1: And Hunter, you bring it up, and I don't. Everybody
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Speaker 1: makes their own decisions. All of this happens in different spots,
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Speaker 1: and to paint it with a broad brush, I think
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Speaker 1: is unfair. But I gotta think guys at some particular
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Speaker 1: point in time, I don't know if as Bill Belichick
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Speaker 1: would have called it snapface or or whatever he tried
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Speaker 1: to call in back when he was with the New
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Speaker 1: England Patriots. I don't know. I don't know what type
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Speaker 1: of news consuming source Rich Bassacia goes to. But you
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Speaker 1: gotta be living under a rock to not hear people
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Speaker 1: calling for his job at a single day and diminishing
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Speaker 1: every bit of value that he would have had to
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Speaker 1: the organization. And now I'm not saying that's the reason why,
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Speaker 1: Again none of us necessarily know. All we have are
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Speaker 1: Rich Bassachia's words that he put last night, which said,
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Speaker 1: after taking some time to reflect over the last few weeks,
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Speaker 1: I have made the decision to step down as the
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Speaker 1: assistant head coach and Special Teams coordinator of the Green
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Speaker 1: Bay Packers. I'm extremely grateful for Matt Lafleur, Ed Policy,
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Speaker 1: Brian Gudokunz, and Mark Murphy for their unwavering trust and
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Speaker 1: support through my time in Green Bay. I'm also thankful
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Speaker 1: to the players for their consistent work and relentless effort
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Speaker 1: to improve every single day. I would like to thank
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Speaker 1: everyone in the organization for their dedication and commitment. The
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Speaker 1: people in this building make it a special place to work.
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Speaker 1: This is the most important paragraph. I want to thank
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Speaker 1: our fans and the people throughout the Green Bay community
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Speaker 1: for their passion life for the team. Coaching the green
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Speaker 1: Bay Packers was truly an honor, and I will be
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Speaker 1: grateful for my time here. I look forward to whatever
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Speaker 1: is next for me and my family, and I wish
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Speaker 1: nothing but the best for everyone in the organization. There
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Speaker 1: was some some belief, some thought, some some conversation amongst
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Speaker 1: different people around and and that, you know, just speculate
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Speaker 1: and listen to the green Bay Packers. I think there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of folks that hear and thought Rich Pasachi
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Speaker 1: was going to retire and that he was gonna that
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Speaker 1: he was gonna call it a day and be done
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's say he stated it pretty clearly
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Speaker 1: right there, I'm gonna coach again in the NFL. I'm
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Speaker 1: just not going to coach in Green Bay again. And
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Speaker 1: whether or not it was, hey, you can either step
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Speaker 1: down or be fired. I just if that was gonna
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Speaker 1: be the case, we would have heard about this a
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Speaker 1: month ago, guys, Like, so there's there feels to me
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Speaker 1: like maybe just a tick more to the story. Maybe
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Speaker 1: it's not all that juicy, right maybe in U now again,
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Speaker 1: I think they would have said something if it was
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Speaker 1: an extenuating circumstance. Sure, it leaves it open for a
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Speaker 1: lot of questions armon, because although clear that the proof
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Speaker 1: was in the pudding, the production wasn't good enough, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough for him to go and get
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Speaker 1: an extension, But it probably also wasn't good enough or
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Speaker 1: bad enough necessarily in their eyes for him to be
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Speaker 1: fired and for them to pay out the money that
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Speaker 1: they would have had to with him being one of
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Speaker 1: the highest paid special teams coaches and assistant head coaches
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Speaker 1: in football. So I wonder if there were some financial
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Speaker 1: conversations of hey, we'd love to pay some of this cash.
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Speaker 1: We know we can't do this, we wou and how
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Speaker 1: long some of these conversations have gone. Yeah, because, as
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Speaker 1: he said, reflection over the last few weeks, then I'm
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Speaker 1: assuming there's been a number of different conversations that have
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Speaker 1: gone through the last company.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point. A few things I think
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Speaker 3: about there. You know, if he was thinking about stepping
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Speaker 3: down or moving on, what have you?
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Speaker 2: Uh, why now right? Why didn't he do that this before?
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Speaker 2: Because you thought if he would, if he.
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Speaker 3: Would have, you know, made that decision earlier, because this
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Speaker 3: is so late to make that decision, uh, leaves the
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Speaker 3: packers high and dry a little bit. He had to
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Speaker 3: consider that, don't know if that would be you know,
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Speaker 3: I then you can go to the thought, I'm just
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Speaker 3: gonna do it? Was that intentional? Did he did he
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Speaker 3: not want to work for the packers anymore? Did he
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Speaker 3: not want to work for mattla fordnymore? Did he decide
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Speaker 3: that's enough? Did he say yeah, it wasn't a financial thing.
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Speaker 3: Did they ask him for like, listen, we need you
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Speaker 3: to maybe not make as much or he wanted to
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Speaker 3: make more and he and he wasn't going to do that,
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Speaker 3: and he and they and he said, you know what,
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Speaker 3: everyone likes me here? I said, a good culture, right,
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Speaker 3: don't you think so?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? But what's another two hundred thousand amongst? Sure?
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Speaker 2: Sure, where's my race? Rich?
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Speaker 3: You're you know, I'm just speculating here, right, this is speculator, Rich.
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Speaker 3: What's your you know? What's your impact here? Everyone talks
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Speaker 3: so much about culture, which seems to be his greatest attribute,
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Speaker 3: which is a real thing. It's just hard to quantify.
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Speaker 3: So I think a lot of people say, well, he
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Speaker 3: SATs the culture. Great, Okay, that's awesome. What does that mean?
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Speaker 2: Uh? Will says culture is a problem with the team.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's so there's a two edged sword there.
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Speaker 3: It's like, how do you look at this thing? Are
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Speaker 3: you part of the problem or solution? I think it's
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Speaker 3: it's interesting because we can all acknowledge chemistry, culture, all
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Speaker 3: those kind of intangibles you need to be successful, but
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Speaker 3: it's hard to quantify what makes it good, what makes
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Speaker 3: it bad? A lot of questions here on this one,
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Speaker 3: and and I don't know why, but the thing I
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Speaker 3: keep thinking back to was, did he just not want
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Speaker 3: to coach for the packers anymore, or at least not
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Speaker 3: for the packers. But did you not want to coach
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Speaker 3: under the staff anymore? And I'm not I'm not really sure. Now,
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Speaker 3: maybe does he have his site set higher on a
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Speaker 3: higher type of job. You know, we talked so much
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Speaker 3: about how he was close to the Raiders job once
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Speaker 3: upon a time.
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Speaker 2: That's the weird, Like, I don't think he got an
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Speaker 2: interview this cycle, right, not that. Yeah, and he was,
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Speaker 2: like I said, he was the he was one of
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Speaker 2: the hotter like he just people were talking about him consistently,
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Speaker 2: of the culture that he could build. I know he
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Speaker 2: didn't get a job, but it was it was at
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Speaker 2: least talked about. And then for him this cycle with
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Billy, all those openings that were open
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Speaker 2: and no interview. I mean, that's and that's just interesting.
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Speaker 2: And was that the indication for him?
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Speaker 3: Like, look, if I want to get interviews again and
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Speaker 3: I want to advance in this sense, I can't do
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Speaker 3: it here while they're giving me this to work with
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Speaker 3: and special teams, and therefore my rankings are so low
17:17
Speaker 3: and there for my reputation is this.
17:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, those are all things to think about.
17:23
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to say the Packers are giving
17:25
Speaker 1: him absolute you know, nuts and bolts to get screwed
17:29
Speaker 1: here on the talent, right, I mean, like you mentioned
17:32
Speaker 1: a couple of the plays harmon. They gave McManus a
17:35
Speaker 1: three year contract in the offseason for a reason, right,
17:37
Speaker 1: he was one of the better kickers in.
17:38
Speaker 2: Football ash and he had been performing, right, And.
17:40
Speaker 1: They're they're hell of a It was a hell of
17:42
Speaker 1: a process to get to them, but it's the nice
17:44
Speaker 1: winding road to get there. And you know, Romeo Dobbs
17:48
Speaker 1: is one of your more talented wide receivers. However, he's
17:50
Speaker 1: also one that lets you know, one of the bigger spots.
17:52
Speaker 1: So like, is there a hey man, we are giving
17:55
Speaker 1: you starters and this is still what we're Evan Williams
17:58
Speaker 1: on almost every single teams, uh, every single coverage. You
18:01
Speaker 1: one of our best young players. Like it is. So
18:04
Speaker 1: I wonder if some of those mathematics came to it,
18:06
Speaker 1: and and and I guess I hadn't thought of the
18:09
Speaker 1: elevation part of it, arman. And it's a good point
18:11
Speaker 1: that he could have said, I clearly am not getting
18:15
Speaker 1: further along here and doing this with this group. But
18:21
Speaker 1: then the other part of me is is wondering, Damn,
18:24
Speaker 1: Rich Passaci is sixty five years old, right, like I
18:26
Speaker 1: don't I don't know where else do you think you're
18:30
Speaker 1: not to not to try to poopoo anyone's dreams. I
18:32
Speaker 1: want everyone to shoot for the moon and you know,
18:34
Speaker 1: shoot for the stars. Yeah, but if you look at
18:37
Speaker 1: the hiring cycle this year, John Harbaugh is the only
18:41
Speaker 1: sixty plus year old coach right that gets hired. And
18:43
Speaker 1: he's got a ring on his finger for a reason.
18:45
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's becoming more and more increasingly difficult.
18:50
Speaker 1: I would wonder if we hear about rich Bassacia having
18:53
Speaker 1: another move here quickly, then it's clear that there was
18:58
Speaker 1: a reason, right, And maybe he had to step down
19:01
Speaker 1: because he'd be taking somewhat of a lateral position. Maybe
19:05
Speaker 1: he's taking in an assistant head coaching position with a
19:08
Speaker 1: first time head coach where you feel like he can
19:11
Speaker 1: have more impact. I just again all speculation here, but
19:15
Speaker 1: the statements last night, and we read Rich Pisacci as
19:17
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur's along with the Green Bay Packers press release
19:21
Speaker 1: of Rich Passachia stepping down last night, said while We're
19:24
Speaker 1: disappointed to lose a person and coach as valuable as Rich.
19:28
Speaker 1: We respect his decision to step down from the Packers.
19:32
Speaker 1: Rich is a tremendous resource to me and our entire
19:34
Speaker 1: coaching staff who had a profound impact on our players
19:38
Speaker 1: and our culture throughout the building. We cannot thank him
19:40
Speaker 1: enough for his contributions to our team over the last
19:42
Speaker 1: four years. We wish Rich, his wife, Jeanie, and the
19:45
Speaker 1: rest of their family all the best moving forward. Again
19:49
Speaker 1: just feels like it was again. I don't believe anybody
19:52
Speaker 1: who was blindsided by this. I think there was definitely
19:55
Speaker 1: some conversation to it. But the way it's phrased is
20:00
Speaker 1: fascinating because it we release signals Rich is not done coaching. Okay,
20:06
Speaker 1: He's just done coaching for the Packer And.
20:08
Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to make sure we were all
20:09
Speaker 3: on the same page with because there was a part
20:11
Speaker 3: of me that said, when he said, well, well, I'm
20:14
Speaker 3: excited for what's next, we all agree that doesn't mean
20:16
Speaker 3: I'm excited for what's next on a boat somewhere retired,
20:19
Speaker 3: right right.
20:20
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think he's grabbing one of
20:21
Speaker 1: these tables and grabbing a James Patterson book here.
20:23
Speaker 3: Which he should, because you guys are having a hell
20:25
Speaker 3: of a time I'm down there, which hee should. But yeah,
20:29
Speaker 3: because usually in that type of statement you get I'm
20:31
Speaker 3: excited for this next day to spend time in my.
20:33
Speaker 2: Family, or right, it's been great, you know years in
20:36
Speaker 2: the NFL. Right the right take it all as a
20:39
Speaker 2: whole in that statement just focuses on his time with
20:42
Speaker 2: the packers.
20:43
Speaker 3: Well, as you, guys can imagine a lot of reaction,
20:46
Speaker 3: a lot of comments already rolling through. People were getting
20:48
Speaker 3: up early with you for two reasons, want to hear
20:51
Speaker 3: about what we had to say about this, and to
20:53
Speaker 3: see how Billy was doing in this latest situation with
20:55
Speaker 3: the condos. If you checked in late, we'll have another
20:57
Speaker 3: update after the break. We'll get to a lot of
20:59
Speaker 3: yourn We know there's a lot of reaction on this.
21:01
Speaker 3: We'll spend some time on it.
21:03
Speaker 1: We'll get to all of it. Well, if anyone's up
21:05
Speaker 1: early enough and wants to wants a phone call. Eight
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Speaker 1: seven seven seven nine takes on this also some brewers
21:10
Speaker 1: conversation On a hot take day Wednesday, I got a
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Speaker 1: couple of interesting ones qued up for you guys, A
21:16
Speaker 1: couple of baseball ones, one college sports hot take, and
21:21
Speaker 1: then two food ones and and one that I think
21:23
Speaker 1: Armond is gonna really really look which is which is
21:26
Speaker 1: lifestyle and travel? Because what do people love to do?
21:30
Speaker 1: Hunter in the in today's day and age, no longer
21:33
Speaker 1: gripe about their health problems, tell you about their health
21:36
Speaker 1: their travel problems. It's it's it's become our it's become
21:40
Speaker 1: our greatest phenomenon, Arman.
21:44
Speaker 3: Seven hours. That's a great point. Airport, right, we'll get
21:49
Speaker 3: to that. That's four hours, that's exactly it wouldn't let
21:51
Speaker 3: us off the tarmac.
21:53
Speaker 1: Are you sitting there and you just can't. So we'll
21:55
Speaker 1: get to it. And I know at eight seven seven
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Speaker 1: seven three, so people might in some of theirs as well,
22:01
Speaker 1: So we'll get into hot take comp day after six o'clock.
22:04
Speaker 1: Scott Dolphin's here in an hour with our halftime report.
22:07
Speaker 1: But eight seven seven seven nine to four one nine
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Speaker 1: seven three. Rich Basacia steps down as the Special Teams
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Speaker 1: coordinator and assistant head coach of the Green Bay Packers.
22:16
Speaker 1: Why now? What does it mean? And more importantly, are
22:19
Speaker 1: you finally happy? Eight seven seven seven nine four one
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Speaker 1: nine seven three Packers fans, it's the huddle. Hunter in
22:25
Speaker 1: for Drew. I'm Billy, that's arm and it's Fox Sports
22:27
Speaker 1: Radio Wisconsin. Welcome back Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin. Huddled up
22:33
Speaker 1: with you on AM nine twenty in Milwaukee ten seventy
22:37
Speaker 1: AM and Madison Hunter Bombguard waking up with us early here.
22:40
Speaker 1: We're gonna get over the hump on a hot day.
22:42
Speaker 1: Comp day coming up in a few next hour. We'll
22:46
Speaker 1: hit halftime on the entire week leve our halftime show
22:48
Speaker 1: with Scott Dolphin. Hunter Bombguard is in here for his
22:51
Speaker 1: third morning show and radio and Hunter. It's nice that
22:54
Speaker 1: you know, the sports radio gods just drop a good
22:56
Speaker 1: story on you, because otherwise I thought we were gonna
22:59
Speaker 1: have to break down some more curling conversation potentially on
23:02
Speaker 1: a couple of these days in a five o'clock hour
23:04
Speaker 1: for you, waking up really early with you. I'm glad
23:06
Speaker 1: that we got some real sports to discuss. That's good.
23:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that curling discussion was. I got a haircut
23:11
Speaker 2: yesterday and that was I'm always see I'm always wondering
23:14
Speaker 2: what the conversation is going to be when I go
23:16
Speaker 2: get my haircut. It's because It's like I'm always ready,
23:21
Speaker 2: Like if if the question is about and I think
23:23
Speaker 2: I've heard you guys discuss this to talk about this,
23:25
Speaker 2: if this is if the question is about what I
23:28
Speaker 2: do for work? You know, are you working today? What
23:30
Speaker 2: do you got for work? And then it gets into
23:31
Speaker 2: this hole, you know, because then the questions that goes
23:35
Speaker 2: we need jobs?
23:36
Speaker 3: They want to oh wow, you realize how much well
23:38
Speaker 3: I want to talk today?
23:39
Speaker 2: Right, So I was debating, like do I say, yeah,
23:42
Speaker 2: I was in on the like then I have to
23:44
Speaker 2: explain I was in in the morning, but I'm not
23:46
Speaker 2: usually working. Also that it gets into the we She
23:48
Speaker 2: didn't ask about the job. We just talked about curling
23:50
Speaker 2: with the curling was on in the in the place
23:54
Speaker 2: and so you know, the the US was was trying
23:57
Speaker 2: to go for a win and curling, and so we
23:59
Speaker 2: were talking about how much we both didn't understand curling,
24:01
Speaker 2: but we're trying to learn it. So that took up
24:03
Speaker 2: pretty much the whole haircut. It was a pretty quick haircut,
24:05
Speaker 2: so I was glad that that provides some discussion. So
24:08
Speaker 2: I was gonna be ready if need be today to
24:10
Speaker 2: be called upon to talk curling because of my prep
24:12
Speaker 2: yesterday getting my haircut. But yes, this is a story
24:16
Speaker 2: that is obviously much more entertaining, especially around these parts
24:19
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin and.
24:20
Speaker 1: That awesome Arman win.
24:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
24:22
Speaker 1: You know, practice just makes perfect and perfect preparation allows
24:26
Speaker 1: you to be ready for whatever you potentially have.
24:28
Speaker 2: Hold on it. It does. And that's radio this time, a
24:30
Speaker 2: sports radio. This time.
24:31
Speaker 3: You're especially you as be prepared and you don't know
24:34
Speaker 3: what you're gonna get. And we were giving this buffet,
24:36
Speaker 3: but all of a sudden it might not have happened here, right,
24:38
Speaker 3: you have to be prepared and it probably might be
24:40
Speaker 3: a good thing. Because really quick, before we get to
24:42
Speaker 3: some of the Bisaca reaction, we gotta be careful with
24:45
Speaker 3: curling because I'm getting the sense, I don't know about you, guys,
24:48
Speaker 3: that that it's becoming a very polarizing issue among sports fans,
24:54
Speaker 3: the curling thing. Like I'm getting the sense that the
24:56
Speaker 3: curling the curling fans are starting to get real defensive
24:59
Speaker 3: about people at the don't want so much curling and
25:01
Speaker 3: the people that make jokes about curling.
25:03
Speaker 1: And I don't know.
25:03
Speaker 3: About you, but I'm getting a little annoyed with the
25:05
Speaker 3: curling fans a little bit like they're getting real defensive
25:09
Speaker 3: and real angry whenever you say anything about like, well,
25:12
Speaker 3: you know, making a joke about curling at all. And
25:14
Speaker 3: it seems like whether or not curling is a sport
25:17
Speaker 3: and how good it is and how much we should
25:18
Speaker 3: be watching curling and how much curling seems to be
25:21
Speaker 3: on during the Olympics is becoming this hot button issue
25:24
Speaker 3: that is bubbling up. Maybe it's just on the internet streets,
25:27
Speaker 3: but more and more, I mean, I mean, I couldn't
25:29
Speaker 3: say I made one shuffleboard reference about curling on Twitter,
25:33
Speaker 3: and I got some somebody really upset at me coming
25:36
Speaker 3: at me and my mentions, saying I don't know anything
25:38
Speaker 3: about athletics, so maybe I should try and step on
25:40
Speaker 3: the ice. Oh it was wild. So I'm a fan,
25:45
Speaker 3: you know what, I wouldn't be surprised hun her, but
25:47
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Uh So, we gotta be careful
25:49
Speaker 3: about the curling thing these days, apparently, because I think
25:51
Speaker 3: it's getting to be a little bit of a.
25:55
Speaker 1: Yeah saying, very much obsessive of their sport. And now
25:58
Speaker 1: you're coming in here trying to act like you know
26:00
Speaker 1: more than all of us, buddy, you haven't even been here.
26:03
Speaker 1: Did you know the International Curling Association actually started in
26:06
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two.
26:07
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I appreciate that.
26:09
Speaker 1: I do love the day one curling fans being like
26:12
Speaker 1: you guys don't know Jack, All right, chill out on
26:15
Speaker 1: acting like you know our sport, and you better not.
26:17
Speaker 2: Not and not call it a sport. You better call
26:19
Speaker 2: it a sport. Yeah. Man, you say it's not a sport,
26:21
Speaker 2: that's gonna be another thing.
26:23
Speaker 1: Okay, But I mean you knew what you were doing
26:25
Speaker 1: with that one. All right, let's let's sit down and
26:27
Speaker 1: have a conversation.
26:28
Speaker 2: You knew what you Yeah, but you're trying.
26:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what you were trying to do, what was
26:32
Speaker 1: in a sport.
26:32
Speaker 3: I wasn't what you I was not trying to rage bait.
26:35
Speaker 3: It wasn't like some edge lord thing. I didn't think
26:37
Speaker 3: people were that defensive about it just happened to be.
26:40
Speaker 3: Now in other cases, Yes, sometimes I know what I'm doing.
26:42
Speaker 1: So and you definitely like the horn and stets every
26:46
Speaker 1: once in a while eight seven seven seven nine four
26:47
Speaker 1: one seven three head an interaction with a bear's hem
26:50
Speaker 1: yesterday at the pool. We're gonna get into that one.
26:51
Speaker 2: Oh got to talk about that as well.
26:54
Speaker 1: Will d hit us up on the YouTube comment said,
26:56
Speaker 1: you think he'll that somebody's gonna hire Rich pisachas a
26:59
Speaker 1: special teams coach somewhere, knowing the Packers were bottom half
27:02
Speaker 1: of the league the last few years. Will absolutely, and
27:06
Speaker 1: not necessarily just because of Rich Basaci. I'd pinpoint to
27:10
Speaker 1: a number of different situations in coaching, right, It doesn't
27:13
Speaker 1: necessary somebody look up where the Packers defense ended up
27:18
Speaker 1: in all of their final numbers. Here at the end
27:21
Speaker 1: of the year, they were. They in the top ten
27:24
Speaker 1: in pretty much any statistical category. Not necessarily. Now, there
27:28
Speaker 1: were a couple that they would be close to while
27:31
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons was on the team and you were nine,
27:32
Speaker 1: three and one, and there's a process instead of just
27:35
Speaker 1: result situation. But Jeff Haffley was gonna get hired by
27:38
Speaker 1: multiple different teams. Matt Lafleur when he was hired by
27:41
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers after one year of calling plays
27:44
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, I think they had the twenty fifth ranked
27:48
Speaker 1: offense in football and the next year they're in the
27:51
Speaker 1: NFC Title Game in his first year as a head coach.
27:53
Speaker 1: So it happens all the time. It doesn't necessarily right,
27:57
Speaker 1: wrong or indifferent doesn't matter. But I don't even know
28:00
Speaker 1: where the Raiders special teams finished. I think they were
28:04
Speaker 1: in the twenties when Masacia got brought in as one
28:09
Speaker 1: of the higher special teams, higher price special teams coordinators
28:12
Speaker 1: in football. And it wasn't just because of again I
28:16
Speaker 1: got some hot take here on a hot take hump day.
28:19
Speaker 1: There's only so many ways to cover the new kickoff, right, Like,
28:22
Speaker 1: there's only so many ways to block yeh ten guys
28:26
Speaker 1: on field goal block and actually step to the right
28:29
Speaker 1: spot and block the son of a gun that you're
28:32
Speaker 1: supposed to do that we rep every single week in practice,
28:34
Speaker 1: right So there's only so many ways that you can
28:37
Speaker 1: that schematically. I think you can coach a lot of
28:39
Speaker 1: this stuff. It comes down to the intangible stuff, the
28:44
Speaker 1: way people talk about it, the way players react to him,
28:47
Speaker 1: the way coaches trust and interact with him. So I
28:51
Speaker 1: do believe he's going to get hired if he wants
28:53
Speaker 1: to coach again. And it does seem like quickly he
28:55
Speaker 1: made that pretty clear he wants to coach again. Now
28:58
Speaker 1: will he might not in this side cycle, And that's
29:01
Speaker 1: why this is so confusing. A lot of those jobs
29:04
Speaker 1: are gone right, Like Bubba Van Trone is one of
29:06
Speaker 1: the more well known names of special teams coordinator fame
29:11
Speaker 1: because his team blocked a punt while he was on
29:13
Speaker 1: hard knocks and he ran down the field and lost
29:15
Speaker 1: his hat, like he got hired already. It's like teams
29:18
Speaker 1: are picking off different coordinators and and those chairs are moving,
29:23
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you're gonna have to grab one here
29:25
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. And I don't know exactly how much the
29:28
Speaker 1: up and down elevation from no. Packers have hired a
29:31
Speaker 1: couple of guys from the college ranks, not only Jeff Haffley,
29:34
Speaker 1: but just this year wide receivers coach from Iowa State,
29:37
Speaker 1: So like they've they've plucked guys from there. Maybe that's
29:39
Speaker 1: the course that the Packers end up going here in
29:42
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. What about Mike Witt Maybe
29:45
Speaker 1: after the way Ben Johnson punked Lafleur after the playoff game,
29:49
Speaker 1: Rich Basaci wanted a little more anger and fire from
29:52
Speaker 1: his head coach. How about the season, the way the
29:54
Speaker 1: season ended, and not the laid back attitude Matt always
29:57
Speaker 1: displays again like in and I think we had this
30:00
Speaker 1: in the first segment. Guys, Yeah, I think it's fair
30:04
Speaker 1: armand to say I appreciate that we're a culture guy,
30:09
Speaker 1: and I appreciate what we do for the culture. How
30:13
Speaker 1: much do we want to run back a nine to
30:15
Speaker 1: seven and one culture after an eleven and six culture
30:19
Speaker 1: and a nine and eight one? So, like, I do
30:21
Speaker 1: get the can we elevate and that being a part
30:25
Speaker 1: of the conversation, But it doesn't seem like that was
30:28
Speaker 1: the It doesn't seem like that was the situation here.
30:31
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it was we're moving on from
30:34
Speaker 1: you because we do need to elevate. It may have
30:36
Speaker 1: been Rich saying maybe I've done all that I can do.
30:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, different, Yeah, I mean that's kind of one of
30:41
Speaker 3: the things I thought about in that first segment.
30:43
Speaker 2: We kind of talked about it.
30:44
Speaker 3: But it's the whole idea that like maybe it was
30:46
Speaker 3: his decision to say, I'm just not moved by this anymore.
30:49
Speaker 3: I'm not inspired by this anymore. This coaching staff, the situation,
30:53
Speaker 3: and it's not something I want to, you know, coach with.
30:55
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not enjoying it as much as I thought
30:57
Speaker 3: I would, And maybe that's kind of what Mike's getting
30:59
Speaker 3: through there, So not really sure. We don't really know,
31:01
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure we'll ever know, but yeah, you
31:03
Speaker 3: have to acknowledge that is a possibility, we want to
31:06
Speaker 3: do it.
31:06
Speaker 2: And that brings up a question too of how does
31:09
Speaker 2: this reflect on Matt Lafleur, Because Matt Lafleor is obviously
31:13
Speaker 2: given an extension, as we all know. But to have
31:17
Speaker 2: a guy step down after the cycle is basically over,
31:23
Speaker 2: and I just it, it doesn't help. I think obviously,
31:29
Speaker 2: if Lafleur would have went, if he would have fired
31:32
Speaker 2: Rich Basacia, I think that would have looked better probably
31:34
Speaker 2: to fans, because that's what they're hoping. Look at the numbers.
31:37
Speaker 2: The asn't performed right, so that would have been oh, yeah,
31:40
Speaker 2: that's the move we want. It would have made. But
31:43
Speaker 2: as far as the perception of Matt Lafleor, whether it's
31:46
Speaker 2: accurate outside compared to inside, that can obviously be debated,
31:50
Speaker 2: and maybe it's different. Obviously there are a lot of
31:52
Speaker 2: players that keeped up for Matt Lafleor on that last
31:55
Speaker 2: day when they cleaned out their lockers, so there's obviously
31:57
Speaker 2: a different view of Matt Laflora than what seems like
32:01
Speaker 2: for a lot of the fan base right now. However,
32:05
Speaker 2: this doesn't necessarily help Matt Lafleur's cause that Rich step
32:10
Speaker 2: down and doesn't want to be a part of this anymore.
32:13
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't look great now. I also think the
32:15
Speaker 1: other the the interesting one for Lafleur is Hunter as well. Again,
32:18
Speaker 1: fourth coordinators, fourth special teams coordinator is going to have
32:21
Speaker 1: in eight years and it's also again check my math,
32:25
Speaker 1: I think fourth defensive coordinator he's going to have in
32:28
Speaker 1: eight years. Now, one leaves to go get a head
32:30
Speaker 1: coaching job. You fire two of them, and but you're
32:35
Speaker 1: that's a lot of turnover and whether or not it
32:39
Speaker 1: matters too much to you as to where you go
32:42
Speaker 1: from there and how much people you know like you
32:45
Speaker 1: and how much people respect that part of your acumen.
32:48
Speaker 1: At some point you might need one, you might need
32:52
Speaker 1: a job, You might need one of those spots. And
32:53
Speaker 1: a lot of times guys are are a little bit
32:55
Speaker 1: more hesitant to move through it and move off because
32:59
Speaker 1: of that, And I just I don't know that. Again,
33:02
Speaker 1: I don't think this comes from the packers.
33:04
Speaker 3: Now.
33:04
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there was some internal pressure and
33:07
Speaker 1: the folks that have been asking at policy to hold
33:10
Speaker 1: some people accountable. And he walked in and say, you
33:14
Speaker 1: know what, this this office that we got here, we
33:18
Speaker 1: might be paying the money. We're gonna start cutting the
33:21
Speaker 1: cable here all right, because I think we're all being
33:23
Speaker 1: a little bit too comfortable today. Yeah, like maybe they
33:28
Speaker 1: started pulling some things like that.
33:29
Speaker 3: Maybe they started throwing rocks at the balcony in rakes
33:32
Speaker 3: and moving you down to the library in the basement,
33:35
Speaker 3: throwing you into.
33:35
Speaker 1: The clubhouse by the James Patterson novels. All of a sudden,
33:38
Speaker 1: you start grabbing one, start contemplating life. Oh my god,
33:40
Speaker 1: how many horror movies are actually happening right amongst us?
33:44
Speaker 1: One guy, we go all different ways for there to
33:47
Speaker 1: be a murder. Miss. I'm telling you, there's nineteen hundred
33:49
Speaker 1: James Patterson books in here. Just how many different ways
33:53
Speaker 1: does this guy come up with? Somebody dying, somebody being
33:56
Speaker 1: an evil genius? And that's impressive stuff.
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Speaker 2: And who had all the books?
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Speaker 3: Someone there's a big James Patterson fan and donated all
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Speaker 3: those books. I got another one for the library if
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Speaker 3: we got if we want, and that I think what
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Speaker 3: you said is funny because I think that might be
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Speaker 3: part of the residual issue that won't make Packer fans
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Speaker 3: totally quote unquote happy. Is that like, well, yeah, we're
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Speaker 3: rid of him, but he left the zone. You didn't
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Speaker 3: do what I wanted to do, right, guys, But just
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Speaker 3: make me feel good by holding them accountable, which is
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Speaker 3: what we hear h so much. So you know that's
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Speaker 3: the that's the funny part of this. Dreamy says he'll
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Speaker 3: be coaching high school. Hey, Mike Sherman did so you
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Speaker 3: never know, right, yes.
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Speaker 1: Very much could be seven nine four one nine seven
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Speaker 1: three had some good ones on the text line Bill
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Speaker 1: and Iron River good morning, Huddle morning. Personally, I'm not
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Speaker 1: disappointed to see Bisacia leave Green Bay. However, I will
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Speaker 1: say that whomever they put in that position next, if
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Speaker 1: he doesn't do any better, then it's obviously a systemic
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Speaker 1: problem in the organization. If that's the GM head coach,
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Speaker 1: then the chips must fall where they may. Bill from
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Speaker 1: Iron River, Wisconsin, Bill, thank you for t and I
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Speaker 1: love that you're checking.
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Speaker 2: It with and really quick.
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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting he said that because he kind
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Speaker 3: of acknowledges then that he thinks the industry felt Rich
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Speaker 3: Pasacia was the best option because he's like, well, if
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Speaker 3: if Rich couldn't even succeed here, and nobody's gonna succeed here,
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Speaker 3: that must not be the coaches. Which is an interesting point,
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Speaker 3: like how much of it is coaching at the point
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Speaker 3: where maybe the league says, you know what, like we
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Speaker 3: like having special teams coach and teaching, but even the
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Speaker 3: Packers might have felt Rich's role was more than that.
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Speaker 2: And therefore, you know.
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Speaker 3: Special team success isn't about coaching, it's about personnel, and
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Speaker 3: you know, it's all these things.
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Speaker 2: So it is interesting.
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Speaker 3: But hey, I'm gonna say the same thing I said
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Speaker 3: after Sean Slocum left, and after Ron Zuck left, and
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Speaker 3: after Sean and Angle left, after Maurice Drayton left, and
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Speaker 3: now Rich Passacia, Oh might as well try something else.
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Speaker 2: It can't get any worse the same thing for ten years,
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 1: Well, and that's where that's where Bill and Iron river
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Speaker 1: a nail hit on the head. I just I think
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Speaker 1: it's so into a count, like that's the conversation that
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Speaker 1: needs to be happening. Is this a systemic problem? And
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Speaker 1: how can you break it? And is it? Is it
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Speaker 1: as simple as you find a returner like the last
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Speaker 1: great one they had, and people will forget Micah Hyde.
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Speaker 1: Micah Hyde was a dynamic return man in the Punk Game. Now,
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Speaker 1: Keishaw Nixon was a phenomenal kick returner for a couple
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Speaker 1: of years as well, someone under Rich Pasaci's leadership. But
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Speaker 1: we don't want to talk about that, all right, We're
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Speaker 1: not gonna talk about that one.
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Speaker 2: We're just gonna talk about Dobs missing the on s
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Speaker 2: kick and the missfield goals.
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Speaker 1: Correct, correct, Hunter, You're you're picking it up right, you
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Speaker 1: got it. And and old boy, I can't remember which
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman they brought in Banks, Brandt Banks, poor guy
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Speaker 1: did not deserve that straight where he's the one game active,
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Speaker 1: one game active, and I mean they decided seventy two
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Speaker 1: that's the lane we're running on field goal block. Damn,
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Speaker 1: you're block three of them, blocked one of them returning
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Speaker 1: for a two point conversion. You tie that game forty forty.
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Speaker 1: So it is a results driven business, and the results
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Speaker 1: were not good enough. However, the process fascinating. Rich Pasacchi
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Speaker 1: no longer the special teams coach as well as assistant
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Speaker 1: head coach to Matt Lafleur and our friend did say, hey, man,
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Speaker 1: special teams coaches become head coaches somewhere, find the next
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Speaker 1: young brain. That's a that's a great point. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see if they go even younger. Right,
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Speaker 1: Like double down on the conversation that was had in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the year, in the middle of the offseason,
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Speaker 1: as they need more experience, they need more veteran this,
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Speaker 1: they need more guys that have been there for a
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Speaker 1: long time. I got a feeling they're not gonna find
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Speaker 1: somebody with more NFL experience outside of the Green bit
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Speaker 1: Packers organization to take over that spot than Rich Pasacia
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Speaker 1: had eight seven seven seven nine four one nine seven three.
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Speaker 1: Hunter Bombguard is in for Drew Olson. He's gonna spin
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Speaker 1: us through some Luis ran Heitho conversation from yesterday as
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Speaker 1: he met the media with the Milwaukee Brewers. Coming up,
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Speaker 1: we got hot te Humpday, we got a current electric
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Speaker 1: Superhero of the Day an hour away, and more from you.
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Speaker 1: Coming up next, it's the Huddle on Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: Huddle Up Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin. Billy schmid Arman, Sarian
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Speaker 1: Hunter Bombgart with you inside the beautiful clubhouse area, the
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Speaker 1: Clubhouse Commons area. I think you want to call it
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Speaker 1: the h at the hills. As we uh, as we
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Speaker 1: continue to broadcast one final day here from the Grapefruit League,
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Speaker 1: some people were asking, and Red Hot Tim not I
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Speaker 1: do apologize. He said, uh so, wait, I thought Billy
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Speaker 1: was getting locked up in geezer prison. How is he
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Speaker 1: out here? Is he on work release or something? I
38:29
Speaker 1: had five hundred free Billy shirts printed for nothing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people asking to make sure.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Billy realized he was tangling with the wrong guy,
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Speaker 3: so he switched locations to a secure broadcast location and
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Speaker 3: a great backdrop if you're watching us on YouTube X
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Speaker 3: and Facebook, which you should be. But Billy's good, everybody's good.
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Speaker 3: We came to an amicable decision settled out of court.
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Speaker 3: And when I say, condo court, So hey, good to
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Speaker 3: see everybody, and thank you to the real William Smid.
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Speaker 3: No offense, Billy William Schmid Senior, who's running interference as
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Speaker 3: they say, and no one's getting basically security.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
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Speaker 1: I mean right now, currently foot out stretched right in
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Speaker 1: front of the door. He has checked the lock on it.
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Speaker 1: After I did go out and check out the sunrise, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean you have to do that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know.
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Speaker 1: I have to check out the sunrise. Otherwise it's not
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Speaker 1: a it's not a huddle show. But but he's ready
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Speaker 1: to roll. I mean he is. He's got that thing.
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Speaker 1: I can't necessarily tell if there's a like a club
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Speaker 1: in his hand, I can't fully but he's he's prepared
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Speaker 1: if somebody tries to run through here and have an issue.
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Speaker 1: Dreamy said, that's a green screen Billy's pool side.
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Speaker 2: No, he was picking up books there.
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Speaker 1: Such a good idea.
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Speaker 3: This is not that's a great idea, but it's not
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Speaker 3: and this is not AI either, Billy. He's picking up
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Speaker 3: books from behind there, all right, guaranteed.
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Speaker 1: Human maybe eight seven seven seven nine four one seven three.
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Speaker 1: A couple more on the talking text line here before
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Speaker 1: we get into just I just take a deep breath
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Speaker 1: because I had to. I had to bite my tongue.
39:58
Speaker 1: Almost said something I shouldn't have said. Just another ridiculously
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Speaker 1: stupid and hilarious story out of an executive director in
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Speaker 1: a player, however extreme except extremely sad, because again, players
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Speaker 1: get the wrap of being these dumb jocks that are
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Speaker 1: just gonna throw around their cash and end up going broke. However,
40:20
Speaker 1: then when they put their money and are forced to
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Speaker 1: put their money behind a publication that is supposed to
40:26
Speaker 1: be looking out for the best in them in the
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Speaker 1: two sports that we maybe follow the most, the folks
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Speaker 1: that the players are being told and forced to trust
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Speaker 1: the most. One's getting shoulder rubs in the second floor
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Speaker 1: a Tootsies and the other one is hiring it.
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Speaker 3: I know, I thought, Billy, I like, no, I I
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Speaker 3: already heard about the union director that got in trouble.
40:46
Speaker 3: This is a totally different deal entirely. So it just
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Speaker 3: makes you shake your head. So once again we think
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Speaker 3: this is a desert of sports stuff, it's not.
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Speaker 2: We're full with the.
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Speaker 1: Just a full schmorgasboard. And we get to hear from
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Speaker 1: potentially the Brewers new third Basement because supper Club Mark
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Speaker 1: did message us yesterday and I did not get to
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Speaker 1: it in earnest enough. He said, who is going to
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Speaker 1: be the Brewers Milwaukee Brewers third Basement? Hunter Bombguard's gonna
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Speaker 1: answer that, however cleanly he can, because I don't know
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Speaker 1: that it's a clean answer. However, we're gonna hear from Hunter,
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Speaker 1: one of the guys, that's gonna have a chance to
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Speaker 1: be the Brewers third basement this year.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll hear from Luis Renheitho coming up in just
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Speaker 2: a little bit.
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Speaker 5: Although he did say player, ballplayer, don't like anywhere for you, ballplayer,
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Speaker 5: for you, and listen, We're gonna play for the next
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Speaker 5: two hours with you at eight seven, seven, seven, nine
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Speaker 5: four one nine seven three knogin ode out is armand
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Speaker 5: Sary and once again keeping the streak alive.
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Speaker 1: Hunter Bombguart with a fresh fade is in vir Jewels,
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Speaker 1: and I'm Billy Schmid. It's the Huddle on Fox Sports
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