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NFL Week 3 - Sunday Shippers | Main Slate | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear to lift off.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamburlin here, a.k.a. ToeTag and Tambo.
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  Speaker 3: Back for another edition of the Sunday Shippers. Got title,
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  Speaker 3: got hoop. We're breaking down everything for week three DFS.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to go through all 13 games, talk about
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  Speaker 3: our thoughts on how to use them, roster construction process,
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  Speaker 3: how you guys can put it all together. First off,
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  Speaker 3: bringing in Hoopster. Week three, buddy, we're back. You know,
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  Speaker 3: good slate here, but it's another big one. 13 games,
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  Speaker 3: lots to talk about. The Brazil, the field, the injuries,
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  Speaker 3: the weather. We're still waiting on some news, Hoop. But
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  Speaker 3: how you doing, my friend? Another big week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, doing well, a big full slate, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: appealing spots. And I mean, the first thing that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stood out to me when, when looking at the
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  Speaker 1: slate was, you know, it's the first slate, I think
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  Speaker 1: of the season, first main slate where you actually have
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  Speaker 1: to kind of work. Like if you want to get
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  Speaker 1: to something, you're going to have to make some sacrifices
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  Speaker 1: in your lineup. We don't have many free spots, free squares,
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  Speaker 1: super cheap guys that are going to be very, very popular.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple that we'll talk about, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's leading to some really good spots for,
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  Speaker 1: becoming difficult to get to. We'll talk about it as
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  Speaker 1: we get through the, as we go through the slate,
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  Speaker 1: but it should be a good one. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: a big slate. Everything's going to kind of be spread out.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of high-owned spots. Jameer Gibbs is going to
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  Speaker 1: continue to be very highly owned. I mean, DK could
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  Speaker 1: just put him at like 10K and let him sit
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. That would probably be good,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, he's going to be popular. A couple
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  Speaker 1: other uh, popular plays that, that we'll get to a
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  Speaker 1: couple of popular running wide receivers and some tight ends,
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  Speaker 1: but it's, it's a good full slate, a lot of spots, uh,
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  Speaker 1: excited to break it down with you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Title. I think it's a, another fun one. There
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  Speaker 3: is a lot of places to go. Like hoop said,
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  Speaker 3: there's a, you know, a bunch to talk about with
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  Speaker 3: these games and still waiting on a little bit of news.
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  Speaker 3: I know you had the props and weather and stuff
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  Speaker 3: over there. You know, the rain that we got in, in,
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  Speaker 3: in the giants Tennessee game, but how you doing my friend,
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  Speaker 3: another big Sunday, free money Sunday, as we like to
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  Speaker 3: call it over here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, always the best days of the year. Can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: 13 games. Next week is the start of these early games.
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  Speaker 2: So what, 30 minutes from now, 28 minutes from now,
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  Speaker 2: next Sunday, they'll be kicking off. So the slates will
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  Speaker 2: start to shrink and then we'll get, I think next
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  Speaker 2: week's still 12. And then after that, the bye weeks
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  Speaker 2: start rolling in. But I always like big slates, ownership
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  Speaker 2: more spread out. But yeah, you got to hit the
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  Speaker 3: other stuff throughout the show, but who's going to kick
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  Speaker 3: it to you as always, man, to start this thing
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  Speaker 3: off grand scheme overview hit on a couple things there,
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  Speaker 3: but how do you think this thing shaken out for people?
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  Speaker 3: What are some of the things they're waiting on? And
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  Speaker 3: then how are you seeing it yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, the main thing to me, the main
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  Speaker 1: takeaway is what I kind of touched on in the
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  Speaker 1: opening where, you know, Rothback construction more difficult this week
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  Speaker 1: than it's been the first two weeks on these main slates.
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  Speaker 1: And just because there's not a ton of absolute standout value,
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  Speaker 1: we start to see these running back prices creep up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit for the, for the studs, which, you know,
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  Speaker 1: rightfully so these guys are putting up monster numbers week
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  Speaker 1: in and week out. So that's definitely the first thing that,
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  Speaker 1: that stands out to me or, you know, especially on,
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  Speaker 1: on DK FanDuel is a little bit easier to, to
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  Speaker 1: build in with some of these studs. But on DK,
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  Speaker 1: if you just go and kind of run an optimizer,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get a lot of cheap quarterbacks just
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  Speaker 1: because that's the way things are pushing. You're going to
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  Speaker 1: get more double tight end. Last week, not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of double tight end or tight end in flex. This week,
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  Speaker 1: if you run it, you're going to get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that because that's where the best value resides at
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  Speaker 1: that tight end position. So that's one thing to take
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  Speaker 1: into consideration when thinking about roster construction. Uh, quarterback going
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  Speaker 1: to be very spread out, you know, usually is, and
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  Speaker 1: we have a 13 game slate, but the one thing
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  Speaker 1: that definitely stands out at quarterback, the studs are coming
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  Speaker 1: in pretty low on Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, both team
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  Speaker 1: totals above. Oh, the Ravens are sitting at 28. So
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  Speaker 1: four touchdowns in Lamar Jackson, virtually, you know, no ownership.
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  Speaker 1: And then, you know, Josh Allen bills, 28 team total,
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  Speaker 1: no ownership there. So I think it is interesting. Again,
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  Speaker 1: it is tough when you go in there and start
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  Speaker 1: to build those Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen teams. It's very
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  Speaker 1: difficult to build them, so it's going to result in
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  Speaker 1: some low ownership there. Running back, pretty straightforward. The studs
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  Speaker 1: on the slate are phenomenal. Jameer Gibbs, Christian McCaffrey, Kenneth Walker.
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  Speaker 1: Massive workload for him. Phenomenal spot against the Dolphins. They're
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  Speaker 1: just going to give this guy the work. I really
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  Speaker 1: thought they would kind of Ease him in a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but you could tell right from the beginning in game one,
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  Speaker 1: like this is going to be their guy and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to use him. They're going to get their money's
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  Speaker 1: worth on the contract. I don't even know what the
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  Speaker 1: contract was, but they're going to get their money's worth
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  Speaker 1: on him. So, you know, Derrick Henry, another guy that
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  Speaker 1: to me, pretty appealing. I think ownership comes down on him.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of, you know, after those three, like Gibbs, really,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's Gibbs and Kenneth Walker getting the ownership.
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  Speaker 1: Like those two are going to be a starting point
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of lineups. After that, everyone else at
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  Speaker 1: this position probably, you know, we're showing 14% or less
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  Speaker 1: ownership on everyone after Gibbs and Walker. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's probably pretty accurate. So there's going to be some
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  Speaker 1: opportunity at running back for sure. You know, wide receiver. Again,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough to build with the studs today. So I
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  Speaker 1: think what that's going to do is at least keep
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  Speaker 1: the ownership in check on these top end guys. And
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  Speaker 1: we have them on the slate. You know, JSN has
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  Speaker 1: been phenomenal. Jamar Chase, phenomenal last week. Amonra St. Brown
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  Speaker 1: has been phenomenal. C.D. Lamb coming off the big game.
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  Speaker 1: We have Justin Jefferson on the slate. Because of how
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  Speaker 1: difficult roster construction is, the ownership is going to be
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  Speaker 1: held in check on these guys. We have Amonra at 16, C.D.
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  Speaker 1: Lamb at 13, Jefferson at 11, Jamar Chase 9%, JSN 11%.
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  Speaker 1: These are slate breakers. And, you know, more likely than not,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to need one of these guys on your lineup.
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  Speaker 1: Or I guess I should say one of these guys
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  Speaker 1: will likely end up on the winner today. So one
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  Speaker 1: thing to keep into account. And then, you know, tight end.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people are going to just be looking
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  Speaker 1: to go cheap. We have cheap options here. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of cheap options. No one's super expensive. We have. my
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  Speaker 1: guy Dalton Schultz back in the mix. You got, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Stan Laporta, Kelsey looks good. You have Kittle for cheap.
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  Speaker 1: You have Mark Andrews for cheap. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are going to want to do that. Weaving guys
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  Speaker 1: like Trey McBride again, pretty low owned. We're showing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: 8% on Trey McBride and all this is really, it
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  Speaker 1: all just goes back to the main initial point that
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  Speaker 1: roster construction, a little bit difficult. The studs are going
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  Speaker 1: to be held in check outside of the running back position.
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  Speaker 1: So it's kind of, kind of where we're at to
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  Speaker 1: get things started here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll add just a couple of things and I'll
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  Speaker 3: kick it to you, title. You can give a wrap
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  Speaker 3: up on this and then get into the first game,
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  Speaker 3: which will be the Chargers at the Bills. Couple of
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  Speaker 3: quick notes. So one, I'm still waiting on some injury news.
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  Speaker 3: We're waiting on we got Keon Coleman likely to play
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  Speaker 3: this morning now or expected to go. So that's, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's in. But DJ Moore, we're still waiting on that news.
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  Speaker 3: Adonai Mitchell with the glove on. Again, we'll have to
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  Speaker 3: see what happens there. So if you guys see that
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  Speaker 3: news and post in the chat, let us know. I
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  Speaker 3: got my stuff up over here as well. I've got
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  Speaker 3: a DFS OS, so we can check some of the
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  Speaker 3: notes on there too, but just in, in general, there's
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  Speaker 3: that late swap late swap opportunity. As I've trademarked, this
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  Speaker 3: is definitely a good slate for late swap. There's a
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  Speaker 3: ton of good afternoon options and ways that you can go.
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  Speaker 3: There's the San Francisco, there's the Dallas Cowboys game with
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  Speaker 3: the Raven story. There's the saints game, the Vikings with
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  Speaker 3: Kyler back. Like there's a ton of different ways you
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  Speaker 3: can go in the afternoon here, even though there's limited games,
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  Speaker 3: lots of things you'll want to keep an eye on
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  Speaker 3: in the morning, depending on If Kenneth Chalker III comes
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  Speaker 3: through or Gibbs or Jalen Warren and all the guys
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  Speaker 3: that people are going to be going to, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to have to keep an eye on that stuff. Title,
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  Speaker 3: anything else you want to add there? Anything else you
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  Speaker 3: see coming into this slate before we get into the games?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, late swap for sure with the Zay Flowers stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like a true game time decision. That's always important. Weather,
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  Speaker 2: just looking at raw stuff. Every game but two, he
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  Speaker 2: has his green. The two are the Titans and the Giants.
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  Speaker 2: Chalk defense, so. we'll be talking about that and then
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  Speaker 2: uh the commanders and seahawks game two games that are
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  Speaker 2: really not getting ownership outside of just that titans defense
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  Speaker 2: so only two other spots to worry about and then
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  Speaker 2: yeah i mean i i can't add anything else on
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  Speaker 2: what a great breakdown from hoopster Yeah, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Think the last point you said that I was going
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  Speaker 3: to say that I forgot was the first week so
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  Speaker 3: far that we've had. And you get them like a
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  Speaker 3: couple times a year where you get that chalk, chalk defense,
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  Speaker 3: like super chalk. You can see the Titans pushing 30%
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  Speaker 3: plus in high stakes, smaller field stuff. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be kept somewhat in check in the large field,
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  Speaker 3: but it'll be extended Delta versus the rest. And there's
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  Speaker 3: still tons of options when you have 13 games. So
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  Speaker 3: just keep that in mind out there. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: it when we get there. Title, I'll start with you then.
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  Speaker 3: Who mentioned it's hard to fit a guy like $ 8, 000
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen up top there, but we got the stone up.
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  Speaker 3: You can check it out on your side. You got
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  Speaker 3: everything to run through it. Chargers at the Bills to
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  Speaker 3: kick things off.
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  Speaker 2: A low-owned game that I'm going to be jumping in
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  Speaker 2: on right away on both sides a little bit. Both
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  Speaker 2: defenses have shown to be attackable to start. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Bills side, it's so easy to make a case. Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen legit has 35, 40-point upside any single week. I
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  Speaker 2: expect them to move the ball at will. It really
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  Speaker 2: just comes down to the touchdown variance. Is it James Cook?
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  Speaker 2: Is it Josh Allen? Does he rush them? Does he
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  Speaker 2: throw it to your person? That's the little tricky spots
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  Speaker 2: when you get to Josh Allen. But he's 30-plus I
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  Speaker 2: think he's having this week. I don't see how this
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  Speaker 2: terrible Chargers team slows him down at all. I think
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  Speaker 2: Kincaid's a really easy pairing. The DJ Moore news is
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  Speaker 2: definitely important. $ 5, 800 is a good price tag. If he
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  Speaker 2: was on the main slate last week instead of the Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: like I play Thursday through Monday cash and I play
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  Speaker 2: DJ Moore. So if he was on the main slate,
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  Speaker 2: he would have been mega, mega chalk. Now it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: much same price take because he got hurt. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: guess will he be limited a bit? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I need to look into that spot a little more.
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  Speaker 2: If there's no DJ Moore, Shakir definitely gets a big bump.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's mainly Josh Allen, Duke Kincaid. And
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  Speaker 2: then when I'm not playing Josh Allen teams, I think
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  Speaker 2: James Cook's one of the best pivots off of that
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs and Kenneth Walker stuff. You want someone to be
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  Speaker 2: able to match their upside. He is a little cheaper overall.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to move the ball. Again, is Josh Allen
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  Speaker 2: getting the touchdowns or is James Cook getting the touchdowns?
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of how I'm seeing it. I think 6,900
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  Speaker 2: is a phenomenal price tag from what we saw last year.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to be in on the bills. They
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  Speaker 2: are relatively expensive, really just Josh Allen. And then Kincaid
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  Speaker 2: at that position is expensive, but I don't think for
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  Speaker 2: his role this year that he's that bad. Charter side,
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  Speaker 2: a little more difficult, but also cheaper. I'm not throwing
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  Speaker 2: in the towel yet for this offense. I'm throwing it
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  Speaker 2: in for their season. They have a brutal schedule coming up.
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  Speaker 2: But if Josh Allen moves the ball at will, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to force Herbert and them too. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they're going to just lay down in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 2: even if they're on 21. You've got to find something
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  Speaker 2: on offense, which opens up more garbage time stuff. Bill's
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  Speaker 2: defense has been attackable so far. And now it gets
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  Speaker 2: a little more concentrated with Kohler and Njoku going to
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  Speaker 2: the IR. You do have Gadsen as a tight end
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  Speaker 2: if you want to go there, 3,500. He had some
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  Speaker 2: games last year. I think really mainly Ladd-McConkie, though. Now
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  Speaker 2: coming off another week, like he was banged up last week.
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  Speaker 2: There was no question about that. That is a great
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  Speaker 2: price tag. Herbert's only 5,800, showing 3%. He's still a
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  Speaker 2: very athletic, strong-armed QB who can make plays. So a
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  Speaker 2: low-owned game where I'm going to be eating some chalk
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  Speaker 2: and elsewhere, this is one of the spots I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to get to in tournaments.
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  Speaker 3: of our shows out for free. I will say here,
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  Speaker 3: there's a couple of interesting things. One, cannot wait to
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  Speaker 3: see Patrick Herbert throw a touchdown to Justin somehow. And
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  Speaker 3: it's not the other way. I'm making the call of
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  Speaker 3: the year. This will be it. They run a trick play.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick Herbert comes in and throws the touchdown to his brother, Justin,
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  Speaker 3: instead of the other way around, just to mess with people.
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  Speaker 3: but Gadsden being there, everyone said like the last tight
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  Speaker 3: end standing truthfully, the McConkie thing. The one thing I
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  Speaker 3: think people sometimes forget, I mean, just my opinion on
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  Speaker 3: this anyway, but I like the Lamar pay up quarterback option,
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  Speaker 3: which we'll get to later. He's 500 bucks less than Allen.
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  Speaker 3: But if you think Allen hits his ceiling, then I
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  Speaker 3: think Herbert comes along. I think Herbert helps cause that.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be Herbert, McConkie, Gadsden, Hampton,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it might be. And then you can still play Kincaid.
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  Speaker 3: You could play double tight end. You could play Herbert, McConkie,
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  Speaker 3: Quinton Johnston with Kincaid. You could use both those guys
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  Speaker 3: or Gadsden and use James Cook. But I think if
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  Speaker 3: you really think that the Josh Allen stuff is good
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  Speaker 3: and you can't find a lineup you like, you could
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  Speaker 3: just go to the Justin Herbert side of this game.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's pretty interesting to Uh, as a
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  Speaker 3: way to build, it's a little bit more unique, like
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: title set off the top hoop, no one really going
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: here and hard to get here for other stuff. I
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: think they are playing James Cook. I think, you know,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Kincaid's ownership comes up a little, but maybe not that
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: much because especially if we get DJ more playing, but
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: he is coming off a shoulder injury. So we'll see
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: what they do there. What's your thoughts on this game hoop?
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: One last thing, better price on FanDuel, 9,100. It's a
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: lot easier to fit over there. Easier to play him.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Kincaid has the better price tag over there too. So
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: not much more to add. I mean, I think, you know,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: what you guys said is kind of what I was
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: going to say. I love the spot. It's going to
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: be low owned. I mean, it's rare you get a
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: team projected to score over 28 and coming in with
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: relatively low ownership just because it's tough to get there
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: on roster construction. If you're building a bunch of teams
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: and you like the spot, definitely play some James Cook
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: because it could go the other way. I mean, James Cook,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: has the three touchdown game. If he has, he has
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the three touchdown game in them. If it gets there,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: then the Josh Allen stuff isn't going to work out.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: So if you're building a bunch, definitely include him. I
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: love Kincaid. I like him on DK because people are
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: going to want to go cheaper. And, you know, even
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: if DJ DJ more plays and maybe he's a little
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: bit banged up, like to me, Kincaid could be wide
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: receiver one. Like he has a great connection with Josh Allen.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: So Good there, and good with some of these runbacks.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: For it to fully get there, one of you guys
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: mentioned it, you're going to have to get something on
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the Chargers side. You've got to get a little something
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: to get this full thing. McConkie, Gadsden, I think is fine.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Quinton Johnson has been horrible this year, but this team's done.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: They have the toughest schedule from here on out, but
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective and offense perspective, I'd assume they
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: get something going at some point, but it's a good
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: low own spot on the slate.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Last thing I'll say, and then I got, you know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: bigger statement to make, but the, um, Keon Coleman being
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: in whatever, like, I guess Josh Palmer was on a
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: lot of people's radar there. Uh, I'm actually saying that
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I'll say that like a DJ more is in all,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: if I'm playing the Josh Allen side, I would play
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: more with him. Like you got to just assume he's healthy.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: If those lineups go down, they go down, but I'd
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: be looking to play Allen more and Kincaid. It still
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: keeps it cheap. You got a great run back in
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: McConkie on the other side. You know, if you're doing
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: that and that's, that's also for, um, FanDuel. Because like
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: we said over there, Josh Allen is 9,100. I know
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: it seems expensive because it's over 9K, but it's the
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: way the pricing sets up over there, how cheap Kincaid
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: is over there. There's just a ton of different ways
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: that you can get to it. All right. Go to
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: the next one. I put in the slate station on shippenation.com
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: this week. There's two quotes. One is never say never.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Learning this the hard way. So never say never. And
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: the second one is all good things must come to
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: an end. And I don't think there's ever been a
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: better week in the history of DFS to play Patrick Mahomes.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: And I never play Patrick Mahomes on a main slate.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: There's 13 games. This could still get dusted. That's fine.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: But when you got Kenneth Walker, Kenneth Chalker, the third,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: and you've got that set up and there's just so
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: many ways to get different in this game. I love
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: this spot. So I have to do it. So I
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: gave the disclaimer starting Thursday. So people would get a
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: lot of pre-notice on how the hell is Tambo actually
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: doing this. But I'm going to be playing Mahomes. I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: going to be playing Rice, Worthy, Thornton, Kelsey, Kenneth Walker.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: And on the other side, I'm going to be playing A-chan, Washington, Bell. Like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I think there's a ton of ways you can go
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: about this. But one of my favorites title is going
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: with Mahomes and then skipping over Walker and and using
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: HN on the other side. We've done this in the
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: past with some stuff where you've got a popular running back,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: you flip to the other side, you move it around.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: This seems like a spot that we could see it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: And I know people hate on Miami and they suck
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: and all this, but I think it's a perfect spot
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: for them to at least show up because even if
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: they just show up some, They don't have to worry
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: about winning. They're still going to lose the game. They
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: can still get their bonuses or whatever they get when
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: they lose games. However, that stuff works. My point being,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: if they do show up and you would need that
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: for Mahomes to have a big game like we talked
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: about from before, this will be the first time. And
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: last time I did this was Will Zalatouris betting in golf.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: And he won the event. He won the event. Receipts
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: are out there.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Remember that? I was there in Memphis live and he
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: wanted a crazy playoff. So I'm hoping that M in
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: my home stands for Millie. I got him in the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: big boy spot, the 555 Millie maker. That's what I'm
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: rolling with for my lineup in there this week. So
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I'll go with you, title, your, your thoughts on the
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: chiefs at the dolphins.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want to halt all the momentum. I'm not
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: really there. I mean, he's getting some ownership mainly. I mean,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I still see it the same as you every time
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: you make the case is like, you got to get
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: it right. And I still think it's more spread out than,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, Kenneth Walker is a freaking man. And also
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: why it's so hard to play Mahomes is he had
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: 10 targets last week, did Kenneth Walker. So some of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: your Patrick Mahomes teams in the portfolio probably should have
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker. He's not just a power running back anymore.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: The game theory-wise, the leverage off the chalk, when I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: do play Mahomes, I'd ideally not want Kenneth Walker because, again,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the reason to play all that is to leverage it off.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely not going to Rasheed Rice. Again, I've said
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: my thoughts about him. I think he's just trash at
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: this point. I'd much rather go Worthy, Thornton, Kelsey, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: that also because it's pretty cheap when you do stack
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: those cheapies up. What I'm worried about is this Dolphins
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: team is just as bad as it gets, that they
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: can't get anything going, that the fourth quarter starts, or
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: even midway through the third and the game saw it
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: a hand and emmett johnson's coming in to get some
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: work and in the fourth quarter they just take everyone
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: out and it just fully doesn't get there we've seen
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the homes in three quarters get like 26 draft kings
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: points but it's not fully enough i think it was
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: like the raiders last year because we had similar talks
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: to this it's just when i'm playing him who am
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: i playing him with is it worthy Is it Thornton?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Is it Kelsey? For me, it'd be Worthy and Kelsey.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's somewhat into ownership. So I don't love it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I don't love the Dolphins side. Malik Washington and HN though.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I will play some HN at like 10% because yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I think you'll still be out there in the fourth
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: quarter in a blowout. These guys are going to get
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: blown out a lot and he can catch like eight
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: passes in this one. But I think it will take
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: a while for HN to probably get going as the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: game goes on and the score gets racked up a bit.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I don't mind Chiefs defense, though. You can stream any
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: defense against the Dolphins all year long.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I was just going to add, too. I'm going to
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: a bunch of different places. First off, shout out to
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Drew Louts, one of the Ship It Games Golden Ship
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: It ticket winners. So in the share ship this week.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Congrats to you. It's going to be awesome. Chance of $ 33, 333. 33.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: So there you.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Go.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: And then I'll buy the Tambo scat chain. I would
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: never put my homie on. I don't care if he
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: wins it for me or not. But I don't think
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: scat's ever winning me that chain. So I'm just going
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: to have to buy it based off my homes winning
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: me the money for it. And it's still going to
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: be the same chain I was going to buy. But
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think scats get me that chain. He is interesting,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: by the way, later for today. A lot of Emmett
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Johnson talk. I think it's a good prop bet if
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: you want to get over on his carries. He's got
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: like a five and a half or a six and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: a half carries. If you think he's getting carries, you
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: can do that. I don't know if he's going to
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: get you there at 4,400 all the way. I'm using
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: them as a leverage play in some lineups. Great idea.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: If you've got a portfolio, um, that's where I'll do
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: it versus like the main and to title's point. Um,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I'm never just going to play. If I'm ever playing
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: my own, which I am this week, I've been very
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: clear on that. I am going to have him in
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the portfolio. That's the whole point. And there is some
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: lineups with Walker, but for my, I was talking about
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: for my five 55. Millie maker. I like just going
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: full go. And like title said, if you already erased
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: rice from your mind, well, that target tree just gets
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: smaller anyway, right there. It depends on what you want
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: to do with Kelsey, but a book was showing off
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: some stuff yesterday. And obviously Kelsey's in, you know, 80%
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: of the homes lineups or something insane. So it's like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: you could move that off your plate. And I really
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: like HN to get it going hoop. I'll kick it
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: to you. Cause I'm just ranting on it now, but
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I will say another interesting thing. If you're not playing
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, we saw this last week with Hubbard and
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the Carolina defense getting there on the opposite running back today.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: That could be like Brees Hall and the Jets versus Gibbs.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: You can play a Chan in Miami at the stone
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: minimum and just hope that they get, you know, hope
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: that the Titans don't come through and it's the Dolphins instead.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And it's not a big boy defense, but I do
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: think there's a lot of good defenses. Kick it to
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you who Dolphins at home versus the Chiefs.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely wasn't prepared for a, you know, a Tambo.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I knew you liked them a little
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: bit from, you know, watching the stuff, but wasn't prepared. Yes.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to take it a step further and
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: be a little more precise. All right. I love the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: spot for Mahomes and it's going to be opposite of
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: title's opinion, but I think it's Mahomes and Rice today.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Like he's forced it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: He loves Rice though. I'm not surprised. That was his
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: favorite captain. Yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: He's forced it to Worthy quite a bit. Like, he's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: got Kelsey going early on in the season. Kenneth Walker
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: has obviously been going. Like, if there's ever a spot
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: to get somebody going, it's going to be against this
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Dolphins defense where you can do whatever the hell you want.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And I just think they're going to force it to
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Rasheed Rice. I think Rasheed Rice has the big game.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Very low on. Like, no one's on him today. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: think it's like– Very low.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Sub 5%. What do we have?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: It's 2026 and Travis Kelsey is projected for more yards
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: than Rasheed Rice. I mean, that's why.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's recency bias because he's been going. Like,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, if, you know, Kelsey hadn't had these big games, like,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: there's no way he's going to have a bigger run. Like,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Rice is the guy that's kind of been... pushed to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the back burner. Today, he's coming to the front. He's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: going to be that next burger in line to come
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: off the grill. It's going to be Rasheed Rice.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: You know what they say?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: He'll get you a burger.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Well done, burger.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: You killed my good one-liner, but next week there's going
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: to be ricency bias because Rasheed Rice gets the job done.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: So if you get the recency bias, get the ricency
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: bias in there, you'll be able to see what happens. $ 6, 400, though,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to your point, Hoop, for what was used to be what?
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: People always say, like, I'm going to play this guy
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: because he's going to get more expensive as the season
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: goes on. Title's like, no, this guy's getting cheaper.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Rice is going to be $ 4, 800 when it's all said
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and done. A hockey burger for you, a nice zero
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: in that line.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Why do you think he's done, though?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: This is what it is, though. The dude can't create
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: any separation. It feels like on the target tree. I
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe it's off-season stuff. He loves his guns, jail,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: whatever the dude's doing in life. I don't know if
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: it's grinding football like 95% of these other dudes that
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: three workouts a day or whatever. I don't think he's dialed.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: He's going to prove title wrong today.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Rice is playing the high school jet or dolphins teams.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Like you said, is it him though? Is it not
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: like getting it right is tough, but if you do
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: get it right, like my homes is going to, it's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: hard to see him not scoring 20 unless Walker's just
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: absolutely breaking it. Just getting its rights is tough. So,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I thought about saying this on my main lineup. I
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: thought about that was the first team I started building
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: was Mahomes. Yeah, you two do it. Everyone pile into
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the 555 and I'll play Mahomes.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Come on. I couldn't resist my shitty Lions defense and
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: picking on them. So we'll talk about that when we
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: get there. But yeah, I just, yeah. The only thing,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: one spot I do disagree is I don't want any
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: of these freaking runbacks. I don't get it. Like, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: don't care. And like, I get there's some risk in the,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you know, fourth quarter, but the way the NFL is
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: set up nowadays, like you have to be up by
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: four touchdowns before these teams say, all right, like we're
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: putting in the backups. Like it's so easy to come
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: back in the NFL from three touchdowns. Now it's like
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: four touchdowns before you even have to worry about a team,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you know, get bringing in the backups and they, a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: lot of teams will just keep their foot on the gas.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm not too worried about runbacks. Chiefs can, can
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: do whatever they want here.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: But we just saw the Millie maker one last week
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: by the 49ers in this spot. No runbacks. Eli, the cat,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: the Millie maker, we reviewed it, the takedown breakdown on Monday.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: He had three 49ers, no dolphins.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is clear. Marvin Harrison is the worst
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: of all. The dude is walking out there. I don't,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: if you're a coach in the NFL and you see
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like one of his reps, how does he get on
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the field again? He literally is not trying. And you've
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: got a guy willing to chuck it, too.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's not like, I mean, yes, their team sucks, but
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback that's willing to just throw it
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: up to you.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Like I would have benched him in the first play
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: and man, you give him one play. If he does that,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: he's out for the game.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Just over there, sipping the USA coffee today, that president's cup,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: by the way, that's a golf topic. Quickly.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Golf, whoever makes those decisions, decisions should be ashamed of themselves.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Like move on from these losers. Justin Thomas, Patrick can't
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: lay like these guys suck. Like they suck. It's embarrassing.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just get some young guys in there or something.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Get the Corn Fairy Tour guys or something. These guys
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: are embarrassing on the national stage. It's all fake shit anyway.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: They pretend like they're so into it, even with the
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Ryder Cup, all this. No, they're not. It's all fake.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Get these losers out of here. Find other guys. Seriously.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: He does run differently than others, which is very slow
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: lately and not close to an NFL caliber.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. i mean come on coach hopefully you.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Meant that opposite our guy tyler though what about you
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: put this ranking now title you got to do all
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: three now.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah marvin's the worst rice is second where's bj yeah
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: brian thomas is okay well.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: It's a good segue because i'm sticking with you we're
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: going to the jaguars at home versus the patriots and
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: btj is in that game there's a lot of parker
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: washington love right now but tell us tell us what
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: you got with this one title.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, rightfully so. Parker Washington, he's so good.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: That's 6K price today. We're talking about prices that are
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: high that are coming lower. He's going to be 7K
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: before we know it. Clear, clear wide receiver one. This
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: DraftKings scoring really, really well. After that, though, it's pretty
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: hard for me to get in this game. I just
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: see it as like a lower scoring, slug it out,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: just a really, really good football game between two competitive teams.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: And that doesn't always produce when it comes to fantasy.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I think at tight end, I don't mind Hunter Henry. Um,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: a contrarian option that not many are going to, a
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: lot of names will be talked about a tight end.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: He's one that won't be other than that though. Like
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I don't really see myself playing and I'm playing a
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: lot of teams. So if Trevor Lawrence one sneaks up, sure.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: But in a vacuum, this is not a game I'm
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: getting to stacking or really anything outside of Parker, Washington,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: maybe Hunter Henry.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Hoop, I'll give this one to you. I really have
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: nothing to add here on my end because it's like
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: title just said exactly how I feel at the start
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: of the week. If you're getting to Trevor Lawrence, it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: got to be with Washington, Myers, BTJ, some mixture of
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: that for me. If you had some Tootin one-offs because
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: you're trying to leverage Parker Washington, I guess, as a
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: cheap running back. The one thing I mentioned about Tootin yesterday,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I guess I do have one thing to add, I'll
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: just say it, is that he is... leverage off of
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington, but also a pivot to Jalen Warren right
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: there for a hundred bucks less. Again, like title said,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I think it's a game where you could just see that.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: But the one thing that was mentioned, I like it
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: for DraftKings actually more was that they might use him
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: in the past game a little bit more. And so
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: maybe there's an opportunity for him to beat a chalkier
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: version of this price tag, but it's not like my
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: favorite guy in the slate or anything.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I'll let you take it from here. Yeah. Not much
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: interest here. Like I'm playing a lot of teams, so
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like i'll get to some of the trevor lawrence stuff
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: with parker washington you know parker washington's a great play
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: obviously in any sort of format cash games tournaments one-offs
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: like whatever but just there's nothing on the patriot side
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to like run it back with like i just don't
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: have any interest so i'll be you know under on
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: this spot don't love it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah still no um updates here. I was trying to
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: see if we got any more news, but nothing yet.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: So moving on hoop, I'll stay with you. It's your
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: lions here. You said you want to pick on them. Um, lions,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: 27 and a half point team total at home, six
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: and a half point favorites might've moved a little bit, um,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: as of now, but just noting it, you've got, uh,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: pretty much every option on both sides, ready to go
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: by the looks of it outside of waiting on news
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: with Adonai Mitchell. That is a, a big piece on
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the jet side. But other than that, I mean, the
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: lions are looking stacked, uh, you could still put together
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: a good jets build, whether or not Adonai Mitchell is in.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: So go ahead. Yeah.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, you know, somewhat big news because then
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: you get another like cheap wide receiver and Williams, Isaiah Williams,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: if you want to go there, but yeah, I mean,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the Lions defense is horrible and the Lions offense is
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: really good. So they're going to score points and they're
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: going to continue to give up a lot of points. And,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: their secondary, another injury last week to Maddox. So it's just,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's a really bad situation for the Lions defense, but
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: really good for teams going against them. You know, maybe
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a little biased, but you know, Gino Smith won me the,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the Millie kind of in this spot against Detroit. So
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going back, I'm going back to it. Like I, again,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like you have, you know, the options on Detroit. Yes.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Jameer Gibbs is very popular. Amonra St. Brown, popular, but
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: not super popular because it's hard to, you know, fully
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: pay up. After that, though, you got Jamison Williams, who,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you know, big drops in week one, but has big
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: play upside. You have Sam Laporta at tight end. So
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to go within this offense.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Then on the Jets side, Gary Wilson going to be owned,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: but then Brees Hall, you know, again, I always talk
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: about this and we've been talking about it forever since
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: we launched Ship It Nation, like A lot of sites
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: as the week goes on, you'll see their projections all
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: start to look very similar because they're looking at what
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: other people do. And they're saying, oh, we're too light
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: on this guy. So we've got to bump them. We're
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: too high on this guy. I give our team a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: shit ton of credit. Like if you if you go
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: in and just give it away, if you go in
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to the running back position and sort it by best
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: point per dollar play on the slate, we have Brees
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Hall is the best point per dollar running back play
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: on the slate. That's different than the rest of the industry.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And the rest of the industry would see something like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: this and they'd go in and make the adjustment because
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: they don't want to be an outlier. Our stuff loves
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Brees Hall today and has him as the best point
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: per dollar play on the slate. I'm going to play
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of Brees Hall for that reason. Like I'm
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: going to be overweight on Brees Hall for that reason.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Makes me like this game even more as a whole.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Gino Smith, not much ownership. Like they can come from
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: behind and, and put up some points here, assuming they
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: are playing from behind. This Lions defense and secondary is horrible.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: So love the spot. You know, Gibbs going to be
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: super high-owned, and it's almost like, you know, most people
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: are just starting with Gibbs in their lineup. So it's
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: not necessarily a free square, but it's a tough, tough fade. So, like,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: take that out of the equation. You do have Amon Ra,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: who will get some, but it will be held in
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: check because of the way roster construction is going today.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: This is the spot, though. It worked in week one where,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: you know, I just loaded up on this game. had
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a bunch of Saints, had a bunch of Lions. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: think we can do it again here. It's a little
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: less comfortable with Geno Smith, but I think it can
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: happen and love the over stack here. I mean, absolutely
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll see two title. A lot of people are
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: going to have Garrett Wilson and Jameer Gibbs and move on.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: But those lineups are in a world of hurt if
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: this game is the game, right? They might not be
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: because there's so many games on the slate and options
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: that can beat them out and all that. But to
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Hoop's point, if you do get the over stack, there's
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: tons of ways to slice and dice it. You could
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: play Brees Hall with Gibbs. How many people are going
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: to do that? Most people thinking if I'm not going
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: to play Gibbs and Hoop just said this about Hall,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: let me go get Hall instead. You could do that,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: but you also could just play them both and then
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: stack around them or however you want to do it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Geno's in play. Garrett Wilson's in place. Sadiq is in place.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Sam Laporta, Jameson Williams. There's people won't get to all
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: of them. It's all, everyone's just playing this game. No,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: everyone is playing Gibbs and Wilson and some mixture of
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: a few other things.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: There's other guys that, you know, Amin Ra is getting
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: thrown in as a one-off and double wide receiver lineups
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: and things like that title. But how do you see
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: this one stacking up either side, both the game? What
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: are you thinking?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I like one side a lot. I don't like one
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: side a lot. And the Jets thing, and kind of
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: what you said to ownership, I don't like the Jets.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: The reason for it is when people are playing Geno,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: you've talked a lot about conditional ownership, you and Blickle
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: and stuff recently. When you play Geno Smith, 95, I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: don't know, whatever number he has projected, they're all playing
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson. You have no other option really to play.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm playing a subpar offense, subpar quarterback. And when
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I'm playing him, I'm funneled into the same exact build
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: as everyone else. And then it's all right. Is it
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: going to be Gibbs or Amon Roth? Yeah, sure, you
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: can mess around on the back side of who you
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: bring back. Not something I'm trying to do. So, yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I think the Jets side is really bad. I actually, yeah, sure,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Brees Hall is fine as a one-off. Garrett Wilson's fine
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: by himself. Isaiah Williams, if there is no Donnie Mitchell, 3.3K.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: He played 80% of snaps last week. That would be
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: a punt I would be interested in. And if I
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: was playing Geno stuff, I would highly consider playing some
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Williams games. But man, playing just Geno and Williams
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: feels like, is Williams really going to have 101 or something?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: It does feel like Garrett Wilson would need to push him,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: or Brees Hall would catch a pass and get there.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: He would need his real players to actually do something.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: So it's not for me on the Jets side, just one-offs.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Sadiq hasn't played over 50% of snaps yet. I don't
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: like it. Now, Lions side, I love. Goff won't really
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: be played too much. But when you play him, you
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: have multiple options. You can play Gibbs, Amon Roth. Definitely
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: going back to Jameson Williams, Sam Laporta. It's so concentrated
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: just within them, but there's enough ways that when you
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: play golf, you can fade any one of those people
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and just stack the other two or other three. Great
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: team total. Jets are bad. They're at home, in the dome.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Everything lines up. Ownership's in check. I like the line
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: side a ton. I'm not forcing a run back. Obviously,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Brees or Williams or Wilson are all fine. So, yeah,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: sign me up for everything on that side. Golf leverages
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Gibbs stuff. I'm going to play a lot of Gibbs chalk.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I just, it's hard for me to get to Gino. Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I think one of the things, but I will say
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: if you are, I mean, I get, you don't like
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the jet side all that much, but play just, I
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: would highly recommend playing a run back. This, this defense
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: and secondary is horrible. Like absolutely horrible. Somebody is going
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to do something on the jet side. Like somebody for
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: 20 though. So we're the saints in week one. And, like,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: they're going to– these teams will come back.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Chuck had 40 yards at half. Like, we got the
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: tail end outcomes on both halves. And you ran– and OT.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: OT got lucky in that game. Like, that game wasn't
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: fully getting there until that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It was pretty solid before OT. It was solid. There
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: was more. I'm just telling you, man, this defense is
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: so bad. I mean, they could 21-0 and then second half, like.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: You should bet the over total then. You should just
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: hammer it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: No, I'll just do it in DFS. I'll make more
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: money in DFS by stacking the game.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: You can make both.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make a million by stacking this puppy.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, he calls his shot. All right. I like it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I just added more. It's just they can't stop anyone.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And Geno is competent enough. Like, they're good against statue quarterbacks.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Geno will move a little bit and get away from
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: some of that pressure and wide open dudes down the field.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: 35-year-old Geno running a 4-4-40. Absolutely.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: But sucky quarterbacks, sucky shitty quarterbacks. Geno does suck. Yes,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: he is not a good quarterback. Shitty quarterbacks win Millie
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Makers all the freaking time.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: That's what I was just going to say. This game
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: reminds me of last year. People told me that, who
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: was it? Tyrod Taylor sucks and his receivers are loser
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: 3K guys and paying up for Bijon is stupid when
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: you can just play Brees Hall, blah, blah, blah. We
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: flipped that exact game script. That ended up being the
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: winner everywhere that week. And it was a cheap, guy
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: with a couple of receivers and then flipping the bill.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: This one's the same thing, but opposite. I like titles
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: move here. Uh, here's the thing. If you're playing the
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Gino side, a lot of people are just going to
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: have Wilson right away. And then what's a Gino Isaiah
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Williams lineup really going to do for you. So you
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: kind of want a triple stack or even a double
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: stack story or triple stack and add breeze hall. And
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: then hope Gibbs goes into that as a way to
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: get different with Gibbs. But if you just flip to
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: the golf side, you can do crazy stuff. You can also,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: how many golf Amon Ross will have Garrett Wilson?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: A lot.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: What if you played golf, JMO Laporta? Well, now you
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: could get away with Wilson because it's who gives a shit.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Like you're not playing Gibbs or Amon Ross in the
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: same game stack, but you're still running it back to
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: make it move. If you play Jared Goff, Amon Ross with,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: LaPorta or Amin Ra Jamo and use Brees Hall and
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: no Gibbs and no Garrett Wilson. Now you got no Gibbs,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: no Garrett Wilson in the same game. So as we
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: always say, it's not who you play, it's how you
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: play them. I like Hoops Call. I do want to
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: run back on this spot definitely for me because I
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: think it's going to be what makes the game move
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: back and forth. But the Lions will stomp and put
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: up points either way. So any of these guys can
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: rack it up. The last thing I'll say here though
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: on Isaiah Williams is I think he's really interesting also
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: as a one-off. We'll see the Adonai Mitchell news.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: But the reason I think that is because he would
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: fill in as the cheap tight end, right? If you're
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: looking at all the tight ends on the slate that
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: are kind of in that place, you'd be able to
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: pay up now and get like a McBride or somebody
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: else that you wanted there and just hope Isaiah Williams
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: beats the cheap tight ends and you could get away
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: with that as well. So I think there's a bunch
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: of different ways to play this game, but I think
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: if you're avoiding it, uh you're going to be missing
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: out right it's fine i just think the other thing
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: is a lot of people are stopping at gibbs and
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: moving on there's a ton of different ways and if
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: you've got multiple lineups i would highly suggest thinking about
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: being in this spot and just how you get different
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: within it who have.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Any one thing to add on a lighter note r.i.p
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: our guy tesla Like, man, when the coach comes out
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and basically says, bro, like, you're like the sixth option. Like,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: you're not going to get many opportunities out here. You
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: know it's done when the coach says that.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: On a lighter note, RIP. Said nobody ever, but that's amazing. Tesla,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: he's done, man.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: He's gone.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: That was titles boy last year.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: The coach says, yeah, buddy, like, you're not going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: have many opportunities out here in this offense.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's going.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: To be fine. I think there's a ton of different
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: ways to go in this game. So we'll, we'll keep
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: it there and move on title. I'm going to go
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: back to you now. We'll go to the Bengals at
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: the Steelers. Jamar chase coming through with the big boy
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: game last week, obviously after hurting people's feelings, that's typically
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: how it goes. We did get the Pittman news early
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: this morning. Pittman jr. Is in after just a week out. So, um,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: you know, Warren in, we expected that, but just of note,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: you know, he was coming off a little bit of
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: an injury. People like Warren, uh, people like Warren and
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: that's it, I think in this game, but I'll let
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: you take it from here.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, first of all, that's your Mark J's
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: first touchdown last week adjustment on the sideline is just
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: shows how special these guys are.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: That was such a year and might stay that way
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: to me. Like that's insane because of what it's worth
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: and what it's for and the technical side of it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: That was just crazy. Yeah.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, it just shows these guys can good O
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: beats good D, like I was saying basketball, but you can, these,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: these star receivers against bad matchups still can get there
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: at low ownership. As far as this game.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: It's Jalen Warren for sure. That's getting some of the ownership.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I always like this division game is not something I
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: go out of my way to, to always play. It's
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: usually slower. I think it's grinded out, especially with Rogers nowadays.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Like his ideal game is just move third and one
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: third and to keep burrow off the field, play to
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: the under and, not something that I love for DFS,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: but man, like Warren's receiving or reception prop is almost
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the same as DK's at four and a half juice
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: on the under, but you're going to see a lot
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: of checkdowns. I think from Rogers to Warren, no Rico,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: which is why we're talking about war. And he doesn't really,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: he hasn't really had a chance to get a full
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: workload in his career. So 5,700 is a solid price tag.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I don't love the game implied for just about 20 points,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: not a stance that I'm looking to go crazy under
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: or crazy over personally. I'm curious to hear your guys take,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I don't love him. I don't hate him because he
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: could catch six or seven passes and right there on
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: a full point PPR site could be enough after that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Oh man, it's tough. DK, I guess maybe 5,400 is
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: a great price tag, but it's been really, really bad
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: for him.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I was going to ask where he lands on your
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: border of those other guys, but it's just because it's
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: been so bad, but 5,400, if you think he's something
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: could still be good.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I think he's my second favorite play in this game,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to be honest. Like I like it more than the,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Chase Browns, Jamar Chase, Higgins, mainly just because of the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: price tags we're talking. But yeah, take a shot on DK.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I don't like this game, though. It's both defenses, I think,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: at low ownership are definitely in play. I mean, as
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: you can see, Rodgers back here, he's an old man
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: that can't move anymore. So you can stream him every
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: single week, a defense against him, and you have a
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: chance for a touchdown.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people in chat asking about certain injuries,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: things like that. We update as we go along, but
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: we also go game by game. So, I mean, this
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: is a live show. You're here now with us. You'll
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: get to that when we get to those games. I
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: think the Bengals D, somebody said it in the chat,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: if you want to leverage Warren, you could do that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I think Metcalf could be the good leverage play there.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I wanted to play a bunch of Metcalf last week.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Now I know Pittman Jr.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Is back.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: It's like the opposite of it, but also just going
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: back to the well and if they can actually finally
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: get this guy some targets at $ 5, 400, DK Metcalf, that is.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: somewhat interesting. I think all of this game though, is
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to me who better for the early only stuff. There's
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: always big early only contests, by the way, like there's,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: you know, $ 20 with a hundred K up top. There's
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: three 33s with 50 K or 30 K or something.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Like if you want to do that, that's where I
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: feel like you could get after it with something like
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: this and, and hope that, that you get the, the
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: division battles, the AFC North battle of the, where the
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: first game goes crazy. Sometimes it's the opposite, obviously where
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: it's just stays tight and the next game opens up.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: But if you hope that this game's goes back and forth,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: it's just the total, not super high. The offenses are
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: pretty condensed though. What's your thoughts here?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: The Steelers games have just been complete dog shit for fantasy.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: And I think it kind of remains, I think it's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: going to remain that way moving forward. Like, I don't know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I had higher hopes, I guess, that the Steelers would
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: be able to do something. It's early, and maybe they
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: do turn it around, but, man, I got to see something. Like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I got to see something out of this offense before
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I can really play it for DFS. So, for me,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, Jalen Warren I think is fine. Like,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: he can get a ton of catches here. Like, that
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: receiving prop stuff is very encouraging. Jamar Chase, absolute stud,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: but I'll probably just be playing those guys as one-offs,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and that's it. Maybe some DK, hope he can get
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: it going, but I just don't love this game at all.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I like DK more with Pittman back in, by the way.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, when Roman Wilson and Giovanni Bernard is your
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: wide receiver twos, like if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: putting a safety above DK every time and not letting
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: them beat me. So a little harder to do with Pittman. Yeah.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: If you play DFS for any amount of time or
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: if you watched us review on takedown breakdown, talk about
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: it week after week, whatever it might be. There's so
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: many weeks like this in the NFL. long sample size
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: where everyone's on certain player in this case could be Warren.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: And you could have just got the wide receiver one
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: for 300 bucks less at, you know, way less ownership
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: in a different position, right in at the wide receiver position.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: You're like, Oh, of course I was on Warren and
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: DK Metcalf finally breaks a slate or something. And like
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: that ends up happening. I know people are talking about
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Friar Muth as well. Again, you know, Mayo and Blickle
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: were betting his, you're laddering him up with the over receptions.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: That would definitely help in DFS at 3,800. It is
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: another interesting spot where, uh, People start at Warren, then
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: they mentioned Metcalf like I just did, but then it
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: ends up being Friar. If that's the case and you
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: think that's it, he would be a good one-off tight
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: end there that you could go to. So up to
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: you guys. I'll leave it with you there. Hoop, I'm
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: going to stay with you. Panthers at the Browns. A
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: little bit of love to start the week. It seems
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: like it cooled down quite a bit on this one
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: outside of maybe Chuba Hubbard. That's kind of where we're
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: at now.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Hubbard's a really good play.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's looked good. His offenses look competent. uh
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: our guy uh rico dowd old now what is he
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: out or has he even been in like.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Jonathan jonathan brooks is out rico wait wait i got
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: the wrong squad man i got the wrong steelers who's out.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yes yes yes yes yeah everything just mixed together for
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: me at once uh so yeah jonathan brooks was this
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: guy i thought was going to be in best ball
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: title you know this at the end of the season
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: like he was getting drafted like very high up in
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: these yeah like out of nowhere And a lot.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Of screenshots out there in the industry with all their
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: That was wild.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: That's definitely one I avoided. Thank God. But, you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Hubbard looks to be in a phenomenal spot. You know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: they're favored here, not by a ton, but he's looked good.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: This offense has looked good. I'm interested in some capacity,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: not like in terms of the passing game. I like Hubbard,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying Bryce Young and, And Tett and Coker, like,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I'll have some of that in my 150. Low total here,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: 41 and a half. But to me, the play is
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: definitely Hubbard. I like him quite a bit on the
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Brown side. Yeah, not a ton. Like, if I get
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to some of these guys, that's fine. I mean, their
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: offense was a little more competent last week against Tampa. But,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you know, my favorite play here by far is Hubbard.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not the same defense as before, but I
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: will say one of the interesting spots here outside of
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: the obvious, like you mentioned with the Hubbard stuff, or
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: if you're game stacking it, then I get it. But
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: if you're not, I actually think the Browns at 2,500,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: they're a hundred. I think they're a hundred bucks more
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: than the Titans. And I don't know about you guys,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: but being a Ravens fan, I follow it quite heavily
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: with the AFC North stuff, but the dog pound, very
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: tough to go into. Like you can see Lamar go
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: in there for games and get crushed and stuff like that.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, it still is Bryce Young. We could see
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: him turn back a little bit to what we've seen
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: in the past. So I think the Browns, even um
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: our boy ham likes judkins 6100 on fan duel you're
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: looking for touchdowns things like that i don't.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Know title gotten along with that you know that i
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: had to look i had a different screen up i
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: had to pull it up with that name and all
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: i see is i.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Was laughing at you because i saw your eyes and everything.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: We know there are the chatter he knows we know
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: is going all in on junk on yeah that's the
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: one so who got the uh the tank top up
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: let's see it cropped off But yeah, in this spot,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Like, uh, I think like, uh, you know,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: if you're stacking it, it is one of those ones
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: where like, if you were stacking Deshaun, we know who
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: it's going to be with, but are people actually playing Deshaun, Boston,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Concepcion and Tet or Coker or something like that? I
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: just don't think people will be on this game stack
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: and it would allow you to fit everything. A lot
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: of people are talking about being an up in pace spot.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: But again, if the, you know, if Bryce Young doesn't,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: doesn't show up or, you know, get Deshaun Watson the
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: way he usually is. It could be one of these defenses.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: That is all you end up needing, if anything, but
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: anything else to add here, you guys, I forget who's up,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: but go ahead.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: The Coke man, Jalen Coker. I'm, this is a guy
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be bumping manually until his price is 6,500
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: and not 5,500. Like this dude is really good. Him
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and Ted, it's so concentrated. That's why I like these
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Panthers and why you can play them. Waller in the,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: in the red zone is really unfortunate. He's, he's ran
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: pretty good there, but, it's Chuba, Tet, Coker. Like, there
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: you go. You know where the ball is going. I
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: have interest in all of them individually. Yeah, Chuba, they
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: love Chuba Hubbard. Like, even with the Jonathan Brooks stuff
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: earlier in the year, we saw when Rico rushed for 200,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Chuba came back. Like, it's already Chuba's backfield again. Now
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: he really has no competition. Ran pretty bad in last
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: week's game as well. On the box score, the game
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: got out of hand, but I think Chuba's a great play.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I do prefer Chuba over Warren for 400 more right now. Again,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: maybe you'll need the savings, but Tet 6K and Coker
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: 5500 when they're getting almost all every time Bryce Young
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: drops back, it's going to be one of those two.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I think they're good one-offs when you're not playing Chuba
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: as a way to leverage that a bit. Other side
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: with the Browns, I don't know. It's tough. Like Denzel
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Boston's the one that I'm the most interested in. He
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: by far is playing the most snaps. He broke out
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: last week. Concepcion is, yeah, now it was Tesla. Now
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I can say Concepcion. He's good. He's a gadget guy.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: It's thin on this slate, but if you are playing
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: like Chuba and you want a mini stack on the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: way back, 4,500 Boston, 4,300 Concepcion would be my preferred
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: over a Buckens at 5,500.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: It's just hard. I mean, it's one of those two.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: We just figure it out, but, or just stack them together.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it is Boston. I think we'll get a
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: little more love, but we're talking like 5% versus 3%
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: or something. If it even shakes out that way, the
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: chat was making fun of you because you said you're
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: bumping the Coke bumping Coke man over there. Coke man. Yeah,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: that's good. So we'll keep it moving. A lot of
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: games to get through. I'm going to stay with you.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Title.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: We'll go with the Colts at home versus the Texans. Um, Nico,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: obviously the news.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, Nico's out. I mean, if Nico's not playing,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I think we've got to fire up Dalton Schultz, who
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: came around after week one, but he's the wide receiver
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: one there too. I will say a very low own play,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchinson is another one as a cheap punt. He
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: was close last week, just missed like a 40-yard touchdown
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: or something, and his box score would have looked completely different.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: It's Hutchinson and Schultz. Schultz getting a little ownership. I
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: do think two tight ends is solid. on this slate,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: but yeah, Xavier Hutchinson, 4k, people are not going to
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: go all the way down. There's a way to get different.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I have some interest in him outside of that on
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: the cold side. It would really just be JT. You're
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: not going to see, actually, let's see JT. We have
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: that 11%. It feels like it could come back a
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: little bit. Um, well, I mean, yeah, it's, it's pretty
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: tough to click that name. So I don't mind, uh,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: JT Schultz, JT Hutchinson, uh, Or just one Hutchinson or Schultz.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Like JT, the opportunity costs. You're playing him. It's probably
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: not Walker. It's probably not Gibbs. Maybe better when you're
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: doing like golf stuff and avoiding Gibbs or the home
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: stuff and avoiding Walker. I don't know. Don't love the
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: cold side though.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: The craziest thing about the Texans last week, you just
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: reminded me, was like that was all the points for
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: no points. Like, you know, Schultz got them all. He
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: was good at his number. That worked out well. But
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, like the Hutchinson just missed. Like Booty didn't
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: get nothing going. But I think Stroud still threw for
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: almost 300 yards.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Over. Yeah, he got the bonus.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he got 20.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Points or something on DraftKings.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: He had no touchdowns. I believe that was the number
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: if I'm correct.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Yep, you're right.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Anyway, that was a bit tilting there. Montgomery, hoop on
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: FanDuel is basically the same price as DraftKings. If you're
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: looking for a guy just to jam three touchdowns, you'll
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: fall in the box three times. He's one that's possible.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: So your thoughts on this game?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: He is horrible. He is. He's like 2.5. Who is it? Montgomery.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: He's just high-touch opportunity.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: He can get three touchdowns in one. Not an appealing game,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. Just as we kind of talk
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: through it, or Title kind of talked through it, roster
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: construction is tough this week. We have some salary constraints.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Stroud has looked pretty good through a couple weeks. Hutchinson,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: nine targets last week, and really didn't do anything. Missed
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: on the long. You have Dalton Schultz, who is you know,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: wide receiver one. And yes, life is, you're not always
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: going to be right in life. And like, when you're wrong,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you apologize, hope they accept and move on. I was
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: wrong with my guy Schultz. He clearly accepted the apology
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: and treated us well last week, but he's the guy.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't do anything offensively. He put up
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: like what 30 fantasy points. So it could happen again.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: So like, what about a Stroud double Stroud Hutchinson Schultz cheap.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, the problem is maybe a run back,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: but you can take Jonathan Taylor at low ownership, On
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: the other side, that's a low-owned double right there that
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: really nobody is going to be on whatsoever. So I
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily hate that. If you are hand-building some teams,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: that's not going to pop up in an optimizer. But
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: if you're hand-building teams, something like that is super low-owned,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and I don't hate it because I like all these
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: plays individually. Hutchinson, Schultz, we need kind of cheap quarterbacks.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Stroud's looked okay, so I guess maybe talk myself into
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: a little more of that. But outside of Jonathan Taylor,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: it is pretty difficult on the Colts side.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Go with the fast track here.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: You're kind of selling me on a title. Might've sold
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: me too. Now I went there last week, got all
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: those opportunities, had a ton of points, but no points really.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: And you had like JT, nobody can get to him
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: at 7,600 gets it rolling early. And then you've got
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Stroud Hutchinson, booty and Schultz.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like in a dome as well.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, Josh downs in there, I guess people,
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, the coaches were talking about him too, but
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: you know, in separation slot and 12 and 11 personnel, both, but,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Interesting spot, I guess. Like, again, if you landed there,
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: not my favorite, but maybe got sold a little bit
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: on it from that perspective. All right. I'm going back
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: to title because he's the weatherman on this one. But
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: where are we at right now with the weather on
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: the Giants at home versus the Titans?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Of course, it was a freaking hurricane all week and
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: 80 mile an hour winds with 120 mile an hour gusts.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, oh, it looks a
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: little bit better Sunday morning. Shocker.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Also, Tajay Spears, while he's looking that up, will be monitored,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: but the hope is he'll be able to play. Ten
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: minutes ago, they hope he plays. So that news just
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: came out as well.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Sunday morning update. This is from Ross. Stretches of dry weather,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: stretches of light rain, potentially some heavier rain later in
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: the game. Aren't specifics quite yet of this early morning,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: but I do think we're dealing with some rain. Wind-wise,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: we're getting off the hook. Sustained winds 15 mile an hour,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: gusts up to 30, at times even lower than that.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: All in all, a bit wet, a bit windy. It's manageable.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Thank goodness I'm not a weatherman. Thank goodness these two
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: teams suck. And even if it was 75 and sunny
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: with no wind, I don't know. Maybe I'd play a
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: little more Jameis Winston since he's free. But in this spot,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: it's Titans defense. It's nothing for me. They're going to
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: get ownership. I feel like back in the day, I
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: almost always tried to avoid cheap defenses more than I
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: do now because I think there's other ways you can
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: get different. But it's still the highest variance volatility position
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: out there. So, yeah, it's Titans defense or nothing for me, though.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I guess, I guess giants defense. I mean, maybe I'm
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: overlooking that a little bit. Go to the other side.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Cam Ward weather game. Yeah. I probably should bump the
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: giants actually.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Where is the chat? The chat's been talking about it
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: the whole way.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: I think that's definitely an interesting spot. So they're also
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: now talking hoop about the, the one, one delay, one
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Dale it's one Dale, but I like saying one to
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: the one play Robinson revenge game. So I don't know
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: about that, but neighbors is in a good spot, but
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: you know, he's been up or down likely and, seemingly
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: in a good spot scat that's what i was saying
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: earlier people want to play the weather side of it
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: but i think just flipping it to the giants d
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: alone could be huge uh it is going to be
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: a big ownership on the titans when it's all said
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: and done.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah i mean and it's tough to not be okay
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: with it like we need salary savings it's going against
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: jamis winston who will just chuck it up i mean
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: i don't know what the prop is title you might
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: have to do some digging on this one but like
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Winston interception prop, he has to be favored to throw
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: a pick in this game. There's no doubt about it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: So it's like you're going to get some free points
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: despite the weather situation.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Minus 179.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so massively favored to throw a pick. So that
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: is an appealing spot regardless. They're cheap. The team total
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: they're going against is sitting at 20. So I'm good
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: with it. But yeah, for tournament. But with defense, man,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: it's very rarely– deciding factor in in tournaments so it's
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: like tough to even like dig into it that deep
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: but the giants on the other side you know they're
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: way more expensive so you know the the ownership discrepancy
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: between the titans and the giants defense is going to
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: be massive but you know the fact that we're talking
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: about defenses here instead of offenses is all you really
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: need to know about this one i will have jamis
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: in in my 150 a 4k quarterback that's willing to
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: chuck it You know, he throws a lot of 50-50 balls.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe they land in the wide receiver's hands instead of
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: the defense's hands. And he's able to do something here.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: But it's really just him. And, you know, I get
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: the Wandale thing. I was very high on him coming
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: into the season. But this Titans offense is going to
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: continue to be dog shit. All right.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: I'm going to stay with you. Last game of the morning.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: We've got the four afternoon games coming up after this hoop,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: but the last game of the morning is the commanders
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: at home. No Jaden Daniels, obviously after that tough injury
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: last week going against the Seahawks. So needless to say,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a tough one. I think their team
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: total is like 16, 17, somewhere in that range, but
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Seahawks looking pretty good in this spot. Your thoughts here, hoop.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, People just continue to not want to
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: play JSN, or maybe it's because it's tough to get
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: to them. But last week, what was he, 8% or
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: 9% owned? Just nukes the slate with Drew Locke at quarterback.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: That's one thing I'm doing the rest of the season.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I don't care what his ownership is. I'm going to
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: be overweight on JSN. After last week, and I was
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: overweight last week. I had a team that kind of
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: ironically was a Drew Locke JSN stack that kind of
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: had the run in the middle. He was top 20
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: at the end. After that, I'm like, I'm just going
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: to be overweight on JSN for the rest of the season.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: And it's pretty easy because there's really not much else
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: you need to worry about in this offense. Like, I
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people were high on Shahid coming
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: into the season. Like, just play JSN and, you know,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: kind of move on a little bit. You know, they're
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: mixing in other guys that are running back, commanders, defenses, forwarders.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: with Mariota there. There's not much you need to worry about.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to play a lot of JSN and
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: kind of move on here.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we moved from the Titans D down to this spot.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: And I will say, well, D does not decide a
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: slate at all. Look at last week. I think the
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: winner of the Millie Maker and Rio, our man Hebrew Cheetah,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: shout out to him again, second place just behind him.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Both those guys had a D that didn't really do much,
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: I think, and could have done more. Maybe the first
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: place guy ended up having Carolina and did have the
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: D that was needed. But my point being, Rio literally
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: right there with a D that did nothing. So it's
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: like it usually doesn't decide it. Hoops said it though,
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: the Commander's D, bad. Mariota, bad. The O-line banged up, bad.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: And you got the Seahawks coming in here. My thing
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: with this one, I get that JSN's alone. He'll obviously
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: be in the pool. He's an expensive wide receiver. He's
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: a pivot at a different position from guys like Gibbs
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: and some of these other spots that people would just
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: spend that money there on. But Jadarian, the price is right.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: right now today with the Seahawks defense could just be
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: a smash $ 5, 300 saying he's full go. We're waiting to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: see a breakout from this guy. This could be the spot.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: And I like the Seahawks defense coming in here, going
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: up against that. I like paying up for D this week.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I talked about it yesterday on leverage lane. I think
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: this is a really good spot. You don't need to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: put price in it. I just, I do think that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: is a good price on Judarian, but I'll kick it
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: over to you, title your thoughts on this one.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I want to play price, but man, it's cause I mean,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: he looks really good. I test wise, but the props,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: The props aren't a fan. It's a lot of opportunity
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: costs at running back this weekend. The props don't love it.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Like he's 13 and a half and he's plus rushing
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: attempt prop. He's plus money. I think he's going to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: need at least seven, 18 carries probably to have a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: chance at the optimal on this lady's dog to score
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: a touchdown at plus one 55, not known to catch
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: a bunch of passes out of the backfield. I think
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to be in favor of props on
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: this one and be under pretty much everything in this game. Yeah.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I don't mind Seahawks defense. If you play Price, I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: think you're better off probably trying to pair him with
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Seahawks defense. But I can play Seahawks defense by itself.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I can play JSN Seahawks. I can just play JSN.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: That's it, though. I think this is one of the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: worst games on the slate. And, again, this is the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: second of two weather games that Roth wrote up. He
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: has this as orange as well. What, 15-mile-an-hour winds, gusts
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: hit 30 at times, light showers. Just, yeah, typical Washington weather,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: All right. Take us into the first afternoon game. Then
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: we've got the Buccaneers at home versus the Vikings. I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: mentioned it earlier, the late swap opportunity, very high on
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: this slate. There's a ton of different ways you can
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: go in the afternoon. I think every game you can
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: make a case for it at least, but there's some
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: really good swap options of like, you know, the Cowboys
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: stuff can be flipped over to the Viking stuff, or
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: you can move the 49 or stuff. If you're in,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: you know, depending on how your lineup shake out in
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: the morning, you can definitely move it around. Let's start
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: with this one title Vikings at the Bucs.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bucs are ass. Maybe I'm just salty because
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: I lost my survivor, but Deshaun Watson's moving the ball,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: and these guys, they blitz every play, it seems, like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Todd Bowles always has, and literally always has a clean pocket,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: does Deshaun Watson, or he did last week. Kyler's back.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: He's got legs. He's 5,100. He's got the best receiver
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: in football, I always say, but man, now JSN and Chase,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: and who knows who the heck's the best receiver in football,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: but he's got my boy Jets at 75. Addison, this
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: low owned, 4,900. Like, yeah, talk about another guy coming
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: into the year that I was definitely high on is
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: really disappointed. We only saw Kyler play 11 snaps, though.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: So this is his real first game, in my opinion.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: We always know what kind of upside he has for DFS,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: a competitive game, clear people to play in Jefferson, Addison.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: And yeah, with no Jordan Mason still, Aaron Jones got
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: the ball over 20 times last week. 5,900 can also
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: catch passes. I am in on a lot of this
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Viking stuff. And then for the Tampa side, I think
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: my favorites just go to that tight end position where
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: every other name's being clicked and no one's going to
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: play Cade Otten. He's Baker's security blanket in the middle
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: of the field. So I think Cade Otten's a great
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: run back in this game. Shurig Buka's fine. Bucky at 6,200. Again,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: running back is really good on this slate. So probably
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: not going to be the way I'm going to get
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: different there. I do like Kyler's stuff, though. Oh, I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: didn't mention TJ Hawkinson. Of course, TJ's also good. You
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: can play TJ and Otten if you want in this game.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm all aboard the Vikings offense. I think there's
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of upside there. Don't love the Bucs' runbacks.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Otten would be my favorite. Iqbuka, fine.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with Murray and Addison 10K combined and then Jefferson being,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: I think, cheap at 7,500 versus what we could see
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: eventually get to here. I think that makes this really
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: appealing from the passing attack there. Obviously, if you want
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: to put in Hawkinson, you can. I like Igbuka on
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: the other side. I do want to run back here.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I want something to make this game move. So I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: think that would be the case. But this stack for
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: the Vikings, we love it. another one, like who mentioned,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: we do stuff differently over a shipping nation. It's, it's different,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: but it's good. It's worked for a ton of people,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: won the millions of dollars. So it might be helpful
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: if you're not a shipping nation member to get in there,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: get into shipping games, get the accurate, get the accurate stuff.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: But I would say that, uh, Murray Jefferson, Addison at
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Buka as like a way to start a lineup hoop,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: you could be just fine. I also think, um, Aaron Jones,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: Minnesota defense, you know, title is talking about how bad
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: the bucks are. You could just pair those two up.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: You could just play the Vikings D as a way
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: to get different. They're, 4,300 on FanDuel, 3,100 on DraftKings.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: But what's your thoughts here? Who put the bucks at
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: the Vikings?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I got my boy Danny today because I'm in on
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: the Vikings. Definitely in on the Vikings. And the main
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: reason is I think it's probably as cheap as it's
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: going to be all season long. Like it's not going
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: to be this cheap. And I've shit on Kyler Murray forever.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: And I think he's a horrible quarterback for going out
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: and winning football games for real life quarterback. But for DFS, 5,100,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: I'm in. and definitely in like running upside. He's got
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: it all. I got, you know, Justin Jefferson. So I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: like this it's cheap. And I guess I like it
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: more as like a game stack situation. I want, I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: want to be in on this and I want multiple
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: pieces and they're cheap. Like obviously Justin Jefferson, the Addison call,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and then you get a really cheap tight end in Hawkinson.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Who's been very involved in this offense, $ 3, 200 for Hawkinson.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Like I'm in, for sure. I want multiples though. I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: want like, again, like I talked about in that Lions
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Lions game, I want to be in on this game
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: and just hope we get a shootout. I mean, it is,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: it's only a 42 total. No one's really going to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: be on it, but you have pieces on the other side,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Bucky Irving going to be, you know, virtually
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: unowned with all the running backs. I just wanted to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: get verification on that number real quick.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Bucky 5%.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: So a guy that can catch, six to seven balls,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: you know, a hundred yards. He can, he can have
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: a big game. Igbuka good with him. And then another
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: cheap tight end, like title talked about Kate Otten 3,100.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: That is like that that's at the price point. If
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: you're playing single entry and he goes out and gets
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: you a goose egg, you can still win. So it's like,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: it's just all real, really all upside kind of 3,100.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: And I think he had a, what do you have?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: five targets and six targets in the first two games.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: So 11 targets through two, that's great for $ 3, 100. So, um,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I like this game as a whole. I don't like the,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I don't like playing Baker at quarterback. I guess I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: should say, I like playing Kyler at quarterback and then
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: the runbacks on, on the Tampa side. I like doing
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: it that way.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: That's what I like as well. And I, even though
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: a big over stack of like, you could do a
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: Kyler triple stack and run it back with somebody on
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: the buck side. I think there's a lot of, um,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: things that could go right. There's tons that can go wrong.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: We're talking about Kyler Murray versus Baker Mayfield, but you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: could see those two in a back and forth and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Baker having fun with it. And Kyler ends up hooking
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: up with those guys with Jefferson, Addison, Hawkinson, Egbuka on
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: the run back, something like that. I think there's a
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: ton of ways you can stack it up. So have
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: interest there. The Stone likes it. The numbers like it
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: over Chippenation. I think this is definitely a spot that
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: our members will be on. If it goes our way,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: good spot to be. Hoop, I'll stay with you. Another
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: really good game here. 49ers at home versus the Cardinals.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so another week where the 49ers are projected to
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: score a lot of points and the ownership's not really
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: coming along with it. You look at Christian McCaffrey, he's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: going to be far behind Jameer Gibbs and Kenneth Walker
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: in terms of ownership. He's going to be way behind
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: those two. I believe we have it around 13%, 14%
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: on Christian McCaffrey. Brock Purdy is going to be held
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: in check. Mike Evans is going to have no ownership.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: The injury stuff, obviously, is somewhat of a concern. Debo.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Then you have Kittle, where he's priced a little bit
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: more than those cheap tight ends. So it's a spot, again,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: if you're building a lot of lineups or even hand building,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: you want to get to this. Kittle, less than 10%.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: They're going to score. They're going to score projected score 28.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: That's four touchdowns. ownership, not following. And you have runbacks
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: on the other side. Like, you know, we shit on Marvin. Yeah,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I'll save the runbacks for sure because we got, you know,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Randy Moss Jr. going on the other side. But you
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: do have runbacks and McBride where no one's going to
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: want to pay up at tight end. And, you know,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: title's Boyd Moss Jr. So there's runbacks and everything, but
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: low on for a team projected to score 28.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, title, I'll kick it right to you. Obviously got
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Michael Wilson on the other side, but your thoughts on
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: this game as a whole too, and then bring that
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: into it.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this game a lot. I think the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: 49ers drive pretty much. This game is really similar to
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: the Bills-Charters game we led off on in the sense
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: of I think the Bills drive and have success pretty
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: much every single time they touch the ball. And I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: think the same for the 49ers. And then that'll force
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: if this game does truly explode for set to do
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: something or even if the Cardinals don't for the whole
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: first half. we saw last year, I assume when everyone
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: was playing NFL DFS last year, Jacoby was the king
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: of garbage time and just always ended up with like
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: 23 DraftKings points. You would take that at 4,800. He
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: has two very clear pairings, Michael Wilson and Trey McBride.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: And I like them both. I like them both when
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: you're just playing a McCaffrey on the other side and
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: you play one of them I think there's multiple ways
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: to play it. Kittle in on, McCaffrey in on everything
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Hoop said. Like, yeah, everyone's going Walker and Gibbs. Why
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: not Christian McCaffrey? He's been the best running back for
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: DFS for many of years. Why can't he get the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: job done? So I like this game quite a bit.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Bursette might be one of my favorite. There's not too
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: many 4K viable guys, but Bursette's probably my cheapest that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: is in play for me at quarterback. And again, clear pairing,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: 300-plus yard upside. If this game truly does... shoot out,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals have to do something. So, yeah, I like
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: this game quite a bit at ownership. It's not showing
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: to really get much at all. One double-digit player, McCaffrey.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Jacoby and Wilson, same price as Kyler and Addison. You
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: take the Jacoby side?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Man, Kyler's legs make that difficult. Obviously, I like Michael
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Wilson over Addison. If we're talking tournaments, probably I would
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: probably prefer for a set. side, just because the ownership's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: way lower. Really close.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: I think that puts the stackability maybe now that I
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: think out loud, too. Then you could get a Kittle
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: or a McCaffrey or something like that versus trying to
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: pick an Igbuka or a Bucky or something along those lines.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I like both.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: What was I going to say to the other? Oh,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: so Mike Evans, who I just want to get quick
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: on this one. So Mike Evans just came out, you know,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: good to go this morning or whatever that he's going
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: to be in. Do you think there's any like full?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Is that full go? You think he's all set again?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Or do you think they hold back a little bit? Like,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: what's your guys's take on that? I didn't ask you
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: either title, but go ahead and chime in if you want.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I don't don't have the strongest take. Go ahead.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't either. I mean, it's like Mike Evans
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: and he's always hurt. It always hurt. And we always expected,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: you know, him to, I don't know. I have no read.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to rotate at receiver a little
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: more and then you'll see them out there for like
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: 70% of snaps, but the high leverage ones. Yeah.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: That's what I was trying to look up there too.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't hate that. So I'm good. I'm
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: good with, um, you know, like, I guess what I
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: was trying to think about is if you had like
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: some Brock Purdy, CMC Kittle lineups, hope that, you know,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: Debo and Mike Evans stay down, don't do much. And
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: then you can have a guy like Michael Wilson, uh,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: on the other side, I think you can play McBride
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: and Kittle. I mean, pretty obvious, but I'm saying you can,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, I think that's fine because Kittle,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: especially on DraftKings where he's only $ 4, 800, that is, you know,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: what could be another big game for him. So you,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: you get that out of a guy at 4,800. It
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: doesn't really matter. If your other tight end is a
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, one at tight end, one pricing of 6,700 versus,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: you know, it could be 8k or something if it
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: was actual. So I think that's a, another good game
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: to be in, in the afternoon, but so is this
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: one hoop. So I'm going to stay here with you.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Cowboys at home. Well, sorry, Cowboys versus the Ravens seen
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: as the home team, but this is in Brazil and
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: playing on some field that they're talking about and just
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: going on and on about, but the total, I think
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: has only gone up since the, you know, the start
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: of the game time. So what's your thoughts on this one?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: It's like crazy. They have to make like a deal
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: about like everything. Like the field yesterday was like the
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: biggest issue. And like, that's all everyone's talking about. And
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: then it's actually not too bad. Like just everything has
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: to be like a big conversation. There's like Rage Bay 2.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: I just want to chime in. There's people at Rage Bay,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: but then there's other people that are like serious. Like
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: they should cancel this game. Why didn't the NFL do
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: international games? They don't want turf. They don't want grass. Like,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: come on. Can we not complain about everything? They're a business.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: Why do they even do it? They should keep all
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: their games in the United States of America and just
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: keep it simple. It's like, what? They're trying to.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Expand, man. People just want to complain about everything. I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: guess it's just human nature.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: 53 and a half points is the total now still.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And outside of Bateman, nobody going above like 12
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: or 13%, which is, you know, wild. Bateman, I guess
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: the news on this one, Zay Flowers is probably the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: most confusing situation to figure out in terms of injuries,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: but they said, if he plays who knows how many,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: and it sounds like they said the Ravens are planning
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: on him not being available. I'm guessing he's out. Like
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: you kind of have to have that assumption. You know,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: if you, if he is some reason ruled in and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: they say full go and you want to get off Bateman,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: there's going to be pivots for sure. We have how
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: many games in the afternoon window? It looks like four
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: solid games. I mean, there's options all over the place. So,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: I'm building obviously with Flowers out if he's in I
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: still think Bateman is fine you know that can be
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: in conversation or a decision to be made later in
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: the day but you know very low own game for
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: 53 and a half total and again it just goes
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: back to that main point I made in the opening
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: of the show roster construction is pretty difficult today and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: people don't want to sacrifice those high-end running backs so
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: you're gonna they're gonna have to avoid very appealing spots
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: but You know, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott. I think my
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: favorite play in this game, everything considered, is definitely Derrick Henry.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: He's looked like an absolute stud. He looked great in
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: the first half last week. And, like, I don't think–
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the time of possession was, but
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: it seemed like the Ravens did not have the ball
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: at all in the second half, and they ended up losing.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: But he looked great. He looked great in week one.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Ownership on him is– We have it at 13. I
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if it comes down to like 10% range.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: So love him. You got Mark Andrews. The play I
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: guess I don't like in this game would be Javante Williams.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas just wants to chuck the ball. Like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: they just want to chuck it. And like, yes, Williams
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: is going to have some big games this season, but
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's just going to be in games where
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: they're favored by a lot and they get a big
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: lead because they want to throw. And it was very
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: obvious last week So I love Dak to CD, Dak
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: to Pickens, and then you have Ferguson as well. Again,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: like to get in on this game, you have to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: make sacrifices in your lineup and people aren't willing to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: do it. You know, if you're going to go heavy
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: on this game, you're probably not going to be able
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: to play Jameer Gibbs at running back. And I just
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: don't think people are willing to make that sacrifice. So
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: that's why we're looking at a low on game here
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: with the biggest total on the slate by by four
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: or five points. So maybe, you know, three, three to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: five points somewhere in that range. So really good game
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: to be in.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: Last week, everybody wanted this spot in the exact same
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: spot with the exact same total. And Jaden just got injured,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: but Jaden was crushing it before the, the elbow dislocation.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: And now it's Lamar who's looked phenomenal. And there's who
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: knows whether Zay plays or not. I don't, I mean,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: like I'm in on this game regardless. I won't be
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: in on Zay. And if he has a good day,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: good for him. But Bateman, Mark Andrews, Chris Moore, Walker,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: there's a bunch of guys you can stack up. Henry
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: is in a unique spot because we're usually getting him
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: with ownership and not because last week was a bad
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: game and what he put up 17.7, but he didn't
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: do good enough on the slate for everybody. So it's
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: not a good spot again, but that's how people treat it.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Your boy though, Zach, before you take over here, this
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: is the one I was wondering, like, is this like
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: a cam from inside your house that he's got now
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: or what's going on here?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: No, thankfully it's not.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Please tell me you didn't eat pancakes.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: No, thankfully I did not. If I did, I'd be
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: really concerned for sure. Cameras would be, I already got
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: some cameras and shit, but they'd be all over the place.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: But no, no pancakes, thankfully.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Yobi tries to know, but if you were having pancakes,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: would you be a hammer?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Always sausage. I'm sausage always.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Tidal loves the sausage. That's what we just heard. We
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: got to keep these jokes low key here because you know, we're,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: we're dealing with younger crowds, but title take us through
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: this game, man. Your thoughts on this one.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If I did have pancakes though, I would definitely
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: be scared.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: As far as this game, I guess I don't really
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: have too much more to like, it's, I guess I'm
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: a little worried that ownership's not worried. Even if ownership
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: creeps up a little bit, I don't think it's enough.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: There's still so many ways to play in this game,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: but everyone just keeps talking about how low it's, going
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: to be. And when everyone keeps saying that at the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: highest total, eventually it can go up a little bit. Again,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: it's still a good game. I'm going to play or
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: build without Zay Flowers. And then from there you can adjust.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: I don't really have any like hot takes, I guess,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: like Andrew's a great play. I do agree with Hoop,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, Bateman's way too cheap, but ownership's going to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: be there a little bit. Pickens, CeeDee Lamb, I guess, 12%, 9%. Florina,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: he is I think if you're playing for Bateman and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Zay is rolled in and you need a punt receiver,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: I think Flournoy is someone that you can save money to.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: They run a good amount of three-receiver sets. This LeJonte
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Wester guy, stone minimum, 3K. Him and Chris Moore were
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: the ones that were playing as a wide receiver two
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: and wide receiver threes. I think I'm Josh Allen over
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Lamar today. It's pretty close, though. So I think that'll
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: lead me to more Derrick Henry players. I don't have
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: hot takes in this game. It's the guys that are
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: being played that I'm going to play to. I think
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: there's other games that are a little lower owned that
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: I think have just as much upside, but I wouldn't
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: worry about the field. A, I think the field makes Zay,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: why would you play Zay Flowers on a hammy in
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: week three when there's already concern about the field? So
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: I feel pretty good that he's out, but the field
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: can help the offense and hurt the defense. They know
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: where they're going. I don't look at that stuff as much.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: The total clearly is not worried about the field limiting points.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Agree on all of that. And the Zay one's especially
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: interesting because this is what happens again, playing a ton
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: of DFS experience over time. This game. is in the afternoon.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: No one is wanting to play Zay. They're wanting to
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: play Bateman, but now that they're not going to get
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: the news till the afternoon and most people don't late
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: swap or have anything to figure out with that, it
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: actually should keep Bateman's ownership in check. So whether you're
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: stacking the Lamar side with him or, Or the DAC
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: side and using him as the runback. I'm not saying
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: he'll be low owned. He won't be. Unfortunately, he's going
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: to be owned no matter what. But I'm saying it
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: could have got... Like if we got the Zayn news
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: right now and hopefully I don't jinx it and we don't,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: I don't believe in those as you know, but just
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: noting it, it could happen. But if we don't get it,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: it's worse. People will start to say, well, oh, it
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: sounds like he might give it a go or it
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: sounds like this and they won't want to do it
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: as much and they won't have the ability and a
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: lot of people won't have pre-set up late swaps, right?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: They won't be prepared for like, what if this or
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: if that.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: I really like this spot. Both sides of this game
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: I think are interesting. It's a really good game that
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: usually people would be all over this. I just don't
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: think they're doing as much as usual because it's not
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: quite the same as the cheap price tags we saw
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: last week with Jaden Daniels on the other side, Diggs, McLaurin,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: all that option. So final game of the slate, guys.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: We got the Saints at home versus the Raiders. Title,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: I'm going to stick with you. Curious because, you know,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: Cash Game Countdown, you do that show every Friday. People
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: can go check it out. It's really quick. It's exactly that.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: It's a quick countdown, rundown of kind of where you're
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: at in cash. Somebody asked earlier about, you know, Kyler
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: and cash and like what people are doing. I, you know,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: I think, and it was shock originally and like people
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: like a lot, but it feels like this side has
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: kind of got held in check now too, because again,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: people don't know which Raider to go to. Like they, they,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: if they were going, they kind of say, okay, I'll
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: go to gentee and Bowers is in now, but they're
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: kind of leaning away from this spot. Where are you
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: at right now with shock as a quarterback and in
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: this game as a whole?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, uh, I like it. I don't think
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: the Raiders are very good. We're in the dome. I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: think it's pretty concentrated in terms for shock, not concentrated,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: like just Gino. And then you have to play Wilson, but,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: I think you have three. You have Olave, who's been
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: phenomenal this year. You have Devon Bailey, who's been really
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: good this year. And then Jawan Johnson, another tight end.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: I've mentioned a lot of tight ends, and I probably
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: will be overweight on two tight end builds today, especially
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: if I want to jam some studs. But yeah, I
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: think you can play Shuck doubles with any two of
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: those three. You also could just go like Shuck, Olave
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: or something. He can run. And he's looked good ever
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: since that first half of the Lions game. So I'm
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: in on the Saints stuff. And yeah, for me, the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: clear run back is Jensey. Getting Bowers back, it sounds
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: like he's going to play. I can't pay $ 6, 600. I'd
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: rather just play Trey McBride if I'm spending up at
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: tight end. But Jenty, 12% to pivot from those Kenneth Walkers,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: the Gibbs. If this game, he can speed it up.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: He can catch passes. They're giving him more work. I
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: think he's a very good run back. Or just if
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: you play a skinny stack, Olave and Jenty, Bailey and Jenty,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: that's how I'm going to attack this game. So I
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: like the Saints side, and I like Jenty. You can
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: always play Trey Tucker. I mean, I guess he's a
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: pivot off of pretty much everybody, I guess, on the slate,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: but it's a late swap opportunity. I actually got onto
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: some Trey Tucker last week just because some of my
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: lineups weren't doing as great, and he was like 0.5%.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: He's someone that can get a 30-piece. I know Sheets
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: has a soft spot in his heart for Trey Tucker,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: but he can break the slate at very low ownership,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: and it's in the late swap window, so I guess
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: it's fine.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. You brought that up. I remember exactly what
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: you're talking about. He had the triple stack with the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Raiders and it was, you know, Myers did had nine points.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: Bowers had less than 10, but it was Tucker that
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: had 43 or whatever, but it was still the same
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: result as our man Hebrew cheetah. It was a second
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: place or 900 K difference.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Those freaking Millie's man. Just so hard to win a hoopster.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: You know all about winning those things, though. Is this
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: a spot that people could go to? You got the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: Raiders at the Saints. The one thing I'll kick over
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: to you, though, I went to shock with title and
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: you're going to talk about it all, but Uh, Genti
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: has 23 and 21 carries back-to-back weeks, six targets and
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: seven targets back-to-back weeks. The Raiders D would be leverage
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: against shock, Olave, Jawan, V-Lay. They're not like they're all
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: getting heavy ownership, but some. So is Genti a guy
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: that's going overlooked on this slate at just, you know, 7,100,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: it's the, you know, in between of like the Gibbs
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: and those guys, and then dropping down to the cheapies.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: So just an interesting starting point.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's mixed into that group of guys
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: that after Gibbs and Walker are just going to be
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: held in check like they absolutely have to be. So, yeah,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I'm fine. Like, I guess for me, like, you look
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: at ownership and like Shuck is going to be probably
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: the highest owned quarterback and not a crazy number, but
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: it's like he's the one that's getting some ownership on
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: the slate. And I mean, I'm fine with it. I
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: just don't love it.
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  Speaker 2: All that much.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I guess I'm kind of down
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  Speaker 1: on this game i just feel like if people are
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  Speaker 1: playing it it's going to be shuck alave and then
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  Speaker 1: genti on the other side like i just it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be very bad so i will say if you
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: are playing this game don't do that like do something
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  Speaker 1: different do uh juwan johnson like uh title talked about
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  Speaker 1: or play trey tucker like i just feel so many
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: people are just going to be on the same sort
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: of build if they are playing this game i do
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: like the individual pieces i like alave a lot Valet,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: I like a ton. Like this guy is a legit
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: wide receiver too. He has a good connection with Schoch.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: I think he's a phenomenal play at 4,400. And there
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: you go. Let's say Zay Flowers is in and you
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  Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with the Bateman stuff. There's your pivot.
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  Speaker 2: Valet.
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  Speaker 1: Same price or within 300. He's 300 less.
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  Speaker 3: So you can definitely get to him in all those lineups.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: That's good. You brought that up because Strammy asked earlier,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: like we're down, I'm not leaving any Zay money available
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: and trying to like hope that it's, it's not about that.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: I actually think it's if Zay somehow plays, I just
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: don't think he's going to, but if he does, cause
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: he could, I'm still fine playing Bateman.
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  Speaker 1: I just, I think it's going to be, I'm fine
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: with it too. But if you don't feel comfortable with it,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: like in those lineups, like you have options here. And
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: I think they lay is a phenomenal option. And then, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine playing Gentee too. Like he's in that mix
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: of guys that, you know, 71 and there's a chance
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: it comes down lower. Like you said, cause it is
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: a weird, you know, kind of price 7,100. So fine
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  Speaker 1: with them individually. I just don't think I like the
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: shuck stuff all that much.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: I like, I really liked, um, Bowers could be a one-off.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: He's a, he's a tight end. That's at that upper
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: price point where he would just crush the low price guys.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: So that's interesting. But I like the gentee Raiders combo
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: and somebody mentioned it earlier too. I'm going to have
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: a bunch of two tight end lineups like title mentioned,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: but if you didn't having a gentee three running back
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: lineup where you've got gentee in the Raiders, it's because
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: you're just not on the saints. on any of those
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: plays that that could be fine as well and i
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: think it's a unique way to attack the slate i
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: mean you get what was it wasn't it uh i
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: guess he's not a popular name these days hoop but
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: uh josh jacobs on the raiders coming home to win
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: the millie like that that's kind of a raider running
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: back coming home to win the millie has been a
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: thing for us for hoop at least so i'll say
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: us we'll take a little credit title we got zero
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: dollars You know, we're all good friends here, but yeah,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: I think that's the setup where it at least makes
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: some sense from that point to, sorry, to Hoop's point,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: when you go like Shako Lave and one of those
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: other guys, it's going to be a more common setup
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: of this build. It wouldn't be the one I'd be
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: late swapping to, that's for sure. All right. Anything else
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: on this one, Hoop? Anything you want to add? Did
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: we miss?
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: No, sir.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: All right. Uh, title final thoughts on this slate. We
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: kind of wrapped up a lot of different stuff, anything
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: else that came together in your mind or different thoughts
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: you have now that you were going through it. I
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: think some of the interesting things were the Houston indie spot,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: sort of, you know, what could happen there. We, we
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: know Nico's out, but like, no, one's really talking about it.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: That's a spot. And then these giants and whatever they,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: if they could do anything at home, the defense for them,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: when everyone's on the Titans, those were like two of
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: the things for me that sort of hit home a
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: little bit harder. Anything else for you?
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Um, Not really. The Bills-Chargers game and Niners-Cardinals looking very low-owned.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: I think that has some shootout potential, like the Vikings
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: stuff individually. Yeah, not too much. I always enjoy these
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Sunday shows. I haven't built anything yet. We're still waiting.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Like a Donnie Mitchell, I think that's kind of important news. So, yeah, it's...
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't build yet until inactives. We'll get those in, what,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: about an hour. But, yeah, anytime it's a Sunday with
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: NFL on our screen, a lot of money up top.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: You can't draw better days in my books. So, hey,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: and the wife and kids are gone. So I got
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: the house set to myself for a week. So not
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: that much changes, but I don't get woken up in
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night. So I'm locked in. I'm dialed.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: Buddy, you better be locked in and look out for
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: Yobi Trice, man, coming.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Out with the cameras. I got my shit. Yeah, I
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: got some cameras. I got some guns. We're good over here.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Sounds like an invite to Yobi for some breakfast, some
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: pancake breakfast.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: I'm just bugging Yobi because my goal, my ultimate goal
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: is to meet Yobi at the live final, right? I'm
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: still trying to get that.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Mine was, and now I'm actually scared. Now I might
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: skip a live final if I ever get there.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: I won't give him your phone number title.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: I'll keep it separate.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, these Lamar numbers and stuff, people are pumping up.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: Lamar in Brazil, man, that could be the one. Anything
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: else stand out for you, Hoop? I know the other
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: thing that I thought of too, just going back through it,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: was like the 49ers stuff, like CMC. You could have
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: like a nice golf lineup with the passing game. Let's
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: wait on the Mitchell news, but you could have a
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: nice golf passing lineup with a little CMC action thrown
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: in there. Just double leverage the Gibbs stuff, right? You
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: got the passing game over top of them. And then
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: you get the other running back. That's like right there
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: at his price tag. That could definitely break a slate
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: with Christian McCaffrey. You could have Christian McCaffrey with Michael Wilson.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: little secondary stack and just have that cook back and
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: forth and not necessarily need per to your reset. Like,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: I think there's a bunch of different ways that you
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: can do things differently on this slate and you're not
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: really forcing it. It just can come together naturally, but
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: who have anything else stood out to you as we
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: went through all those games? Yeah.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, I just overall think this is
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: probably the most, appealing slate of the season in terms of,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the, the full slates. I mean, just so
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: many different ways that you can get to the, I mean,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: elite teams, 28 team total with like no ownership. Like it's, it's,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a fun slate. So many different
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: ways to go. So many different things that make sense.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for this one. I think it's going to
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: be a good day for the Ship It Nation community.
• 1:29:03
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• 1:29:04
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• 1:29:10
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• 1:29:12
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• 1:29:19
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• 1:29:21
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• 1:29:27
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• 1:29:29
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• 1:29:33
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• 1:29:37
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• 1:29:40
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• 1:29:43
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• 1:29:46
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• 1:29:49
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• 1:29:53
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• 1:29:56
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• 1:29:59
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• 1:30:03
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: That's going to do it for this one, guys. Hope
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: you guys have a good week. Going to be a
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: fun slate for hoop, for title, and for myself, toe tag,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: and tambo. Good luck in your contest. Let's ship it.