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Ep. 163 - Cherry Falls (2000) · Frightmares

• 0:43
  Speaker 1: You know I am. I'm scared I'm gonna miss everything
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: I want to say about this movie because there's so
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: much to talk about. But yeah, very excited to do
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: this one. Thank you for the recommendation. This was all
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: all courtesy of you. If you didn't go do you?
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: You and you and Corey and Spencer. Every now and again,
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  Speaker 1: you just you find these fucking things out of nowhere.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know where. You just go into the deep
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: dark reaches of horror. The things.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, it's one of those things on TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what these are. I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: they happen. Somehow, I find myself watching them from time
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  Speaker 2: to time where it's like the cut screen and the
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  Speaker 2: top half is playing part of a movie or describing
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  Speaker 2: a movie and what happens in that movie, and the
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  Speaker 2: bottom half of someone doing something like sand art or baking,
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  Speaker 2: and you almost hit me in the face with that. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: And so I'm like distracted by that. And then they're
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  Speaker 2: like describing this movie.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck? I got it? What is this?
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  Speaker 2: So I start looking through the comments I find I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: this was bizarre. I'm gonna have to save it until
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  Speaker 2: Austin about it because the cast and the plot.
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: Were so wild.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so this one was a TikTok. Fine, yes
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  Speaker 1: it was. Now they were doing what with the video
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  Speaker 1: in the background.
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  Speaker 2: It's like one of those things where like they do
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  Speaker 2: the am I the asshole while someone's baking a cake
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  Speaker 2: or making something. It's like they're just doing something random.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, usually it's minecraft when I see that, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And mine is usually people baking cakes.
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  Speaker 2: I can't stop watching it, and then I'm like, oh, damn,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mean to watch this whole thing, but I
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  Speaker 2: was conned.
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  Speaker 3: I was distracted by icing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you TikTok and brings so much joy to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: But this is where it's like that's happening on one
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  Speaker 2: half the screen, but the other half is like they're
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  Speaker 2: playing parts of a show or parts of a movie.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that's about, but I keep seeing
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  Speaker 3: them at.
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  Speaker 1: Random, you know, m it's being a weird algorithm section
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  Speaker 1: of Tickety Talk.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes I am.
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm not there.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 1: No, But today, hello, Hi, Hi, today we are talking.
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  Speaker 1: It's episode one sixty three. I'm your host. Austin Proctor,
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  Speaker 1: and that is your other hope with the most as always, bitch,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a ghost, Gabrielle Proctor. Wow do do do? We
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  Speaker 1: are talking about a movie called Cherry Falls today. If
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  Speaker 1: you think you will not get a visual of this
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  Speaker 1: in the movie, you would be dead wrong, because, oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: spoiling that, not even a spoiler. Cherry Falls is the
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  Speaker 1: name of a town and some fuck we're up somewhere
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  Speaker 1: where did they specify? What state? Did they say? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so it's Cherry Falls, any town, USA.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhere near West Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: Not oh yeah, yeah, because he was saying he was
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  Speaker 1: going to West Virginia and that was like two hours away,
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  Speaker 1: because she said West Virginia and I was like, mountains Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: take me home, beverage. It was shot in Virginia, rich
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  Speaker 1: probably Virginia. Okay, it's in Virginia. Uh yeah, so this
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  Speaker 1: is a great time. I only knew the uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: minor IMDb summary going in and we'll read that in
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. So that's pretty much all I knew.
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  Speaker 1: And boy was it a fucking treat. So much to
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  Speaker 1: say on this movie, but we've got, of course, many
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  Speaker 1: a other thing to talk about first up being we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about Halloween Ends, because we haven't spoke on
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  Speaker 1: that yet. I know. I briefly mentioned it with Corey
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  Speaker 1: last week, but he hadn't seen it, and the week
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  Speaker 1: before that we released the podcast. The day before we
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: saw Halloween enns, so we got to talk about Halloween Ends.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I've talked, I feel like I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: it at this point, fucking relentlessly. I've done a TikTok
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  Speaker 1: on it or two tiktoks on it. I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: it on the podcast I did yesterday with Slashers. I
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  Speaker 1: talked with them, I'm pretty sure, me and Nick and
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  Speaker 1: Michael on the Shameless Picture Show it talked about Halloween n's.
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  Speaker 1: At some point, I feel like I've talked about it
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  Speaker 1: so much, but somehow it's not been on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, I was also on two other episodes of
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  Speaker 1: podcasts that will be out later, so Shameless Picture Show
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  Speaker 1: and Slashers. But let's talk about Halloween. We gotta get
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  Speaker 1: this out there. It's got to be said. Feelings thoughts go.
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  Speaker 2: So, I know everybody hates this movie for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hate it. I wasn't like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: a masterpiece. I felt that to keep it simple, I
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  Speaker 2: felt that the whole plot line between Corey and Laurie's granddaughter,
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  Speaker 2: whose name is left my head entirely.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, let's go with snory Alison, Alison.
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  Speaker 3: That seems like her name. We're gonna call her Alison.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, their whole story and his whole arc. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: overshadowed the rest of the movie. And had it been
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  Speaker 2: its own film and his connection with Michael Meyer had
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  Speaker 2: not been like the had it been like, they could
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  Speaker 2: have made it a different we've never heard of it,
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: totally made up villain, and he could have had his
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  Speaker 2: own movie that would have been a better received movie
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  Speaker 2: because it wasn't trying to hinge in a random story
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  Speaker 2: to a big franchise. Like I told you, my concern
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: was that at the last minute, when you were telling
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  Speaker 2: me about Corey before we saw the film, Yep, my
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  Speaker 2: concern was that they were going to try to make
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  Speaker 2: you care about a character at the eleventh hour. And
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: every time any show or movie has ever or like
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: movie series has ever tried to do that, it does
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  Speaker 2: not work. It's like season eight of that seventies show
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  Speaker 2: Eric's left and Kelsel's left. No one gives a shit
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  Speaker 2: about whoever the fuck Randy is, Like, nobody cares about him.
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  Speaker 2: You can't make us care about him. He is not established.
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  Speaker 2: We have not had time to grow with him, and
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  Speaker 2: one season is not going to make me like that.
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  Speaker 1: Person, especially at the end, at the end where.
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  Speaker 3: You're trying to see where will everybody end up, you're.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to wrap it up. I don't need some bozo
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  Speaker 1: coming in and ruin in my shit.
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  Speaker 3: They did the same shit to the Brady Bunch. They
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  Speaker 3: ended it.
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  Speaker 2: They added in a random cousin because the kids were
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: getting a little too old, so they wanted to add
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  Speaker 2: a youthful kid.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody hated that kid.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, because he was like annoying, He wasn't funny.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot add someone in in the eleventh hour and
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  Speaker 2: expect everyone to care. But again I say, I like Corey.
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  Speaker 2: Had they given him, like if it had been a
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  Speaker 2: separate film, I would have liked his thing way more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he for him to come in and cap off
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  Speaker 1: the trill, for David Gordon Green to cap off the
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  Speaker 1: trilogy that he did with Yeah, some random person who
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: has not been mentioned, has not been in, was not
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: a part of anything. To make him such a focal
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: point of the movie was a very odd decision. And
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: I know, at least I assume what he was going for,
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: because in every movie you kind of see different trauma.
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  Speaker 1: You get in the first movie and I've actually got
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: this thing pulled up that I wanted to kind of
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  Speaker 1: reference to that this guy I showed it to you
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  Speaker 1: about how he yeah, okay many times, okay, okay, I'll
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  Speaker 1: go into that. But what David Gordon Green did with
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  Speaker 1: the trilogy is, you know, every it's almost like every
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: movie was about trauma, because you have trauma in the
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: first movie about Lori and her family directed directly impacted
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  Speaker 1: from Michael Myers and that whole trauma, okay, And then
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  Speaker 1: in Kills, you have the trauma that the town has
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  Speaker 1: been through with Michael Myers and forty years ago him
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  Speaker 1: wreaking havoc and then coming back, so you have the
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  Speaker 1: town's trauma. And then in the third one, it's like
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  Speaker 1: they just specifically honed in on one person's trauma, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't really directly related to Michael Myers per se.
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  Speaker 1: His trauma was more getting bullied by people, which, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, if you're in your twenties, getting bullied by
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  Speaker 1: fucking seniors, dude, that's just I don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: that's even possible. Just fucking pull their pants over their
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  Speaker 1: head and throw them the river.
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  Speaker 2: Senior band kids, Yeah, why are you not pushing that
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  Speaker 2: kid over?
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  Speaker 3: And also what's like, what is up with those kids?
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen a band kid be a bully like
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  Speaker 2: that in my life, and I was in color Guard
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  Speaker 2: for God's sakes me sorry, sand eksp not a thing.
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  Speaker 1: So we talked about this yesterday when I was doing
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  Speaker 1: this episode with Slashers, and Aid, who's one of the
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  Speaker 1: hosts over there, said almost the same exact thing as
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  Speaker 1: you are. I think it was either eight or one
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  Speaker 1: of the other people. I don't know, but they were like,
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  Speaker 1: when did band kids become so tough? And we asked
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  Speaker 1: Aid because she's a senior teacher, and we were like,
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  Speaker 1: are they like that now? They're like, no, not really,
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  Speaker 1: they're more kind of cocky and stuff like that. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, when did become When did band kids
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  Speaker 1: go from nerds being these hard like fucking punks. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell you two things that band kids
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  Speaker 2: and drama kids are, but it ain't that.
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  Speaker 1: It ain't that. Yeah, so yeah, that was very weird
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  Speaker 1: for him to get bullied, especially when he's in his twenties.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even bother with that. But yeah, it seems
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  Speaker 1: like every movie was some way, shape or form involving
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  Speaker 1: some sort of trauma and how people dealt with it.
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  Speaker 1: But the really cool thing that this one guy posted
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  Speaker 1: his name is Joey Klick on Facebook. He posted this
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  Speaker 1: thing that he had an epiphany about the new trilogy,
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  Speaker 1: which is the fact that David Gordon Green essentially warranted
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  Speaker 1: or not warranted. He got the same response that the
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  Speaker 1: original three movies did because the twenty eighteen, nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: eight are you know, Michael is being transported, there's a
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  Speaker 1: character who knows he's pure evil. This time it's Lorii
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  Speaker 1: instead of Loomis. The shape escapes, and then there's a
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  Speaker 1: bad doctor this time instead of a good doctor. Babysitters die,
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  Speaker 1: Michael battles the heroin and we think he's dead, but
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: he isn't, you know, getting up on the lawn in
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: seventy eight and this time with the breathing at the
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: end of the first one and the Halloween Kills essentially
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: a remake of two. Majority of the movie takes place
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: in a movie with Louri being sidelined the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: major complaints from the original sequel and as our protagonist
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: isn't as active, which that's the thing I said. I
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: was like, it's like Laurie wasn't even in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: But that's kind of how two was the original one,
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  Speaker 1: and then both films feature Michael and the killing rampage,
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  Speaker 1: he being much more brutal and kills and Halloween two
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  Speaker 1: and then three, which if you know anything about Halloween
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  Speaker 1: three season of the Witch, uh, it's like the weirdo
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  Speaker 1: cousin of the Halloween movies because it doesn't it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: involve Michael Myers. It involves a completely different storyline. And
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what he did with Corey. He made it
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  Speaker 1: about something else. And even the fucking texts that they
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: use for twenty eighteen Killed or Halloween Kills and Halloween
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  Speaker 1: Ends are all the same texts from Halloween one, two,
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  Speaker 1: and three, So there's a lot of parallels going on.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like, if you it's a weird decision as
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  Speaker 1: a filmmaker to be like, I want to elicit the
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: same responses as the original ones, and everyone's gonna hate
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  Speaker 1: the third one. Why, Like you know what I mean?
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: If that's what you want, You wanted people to not
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  Speaker 1: like this movie? Fucking why make the movie it is?
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: It's a commentary on how much like with so many fandoms,
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: people say they love something, but then you give them
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: what they ask for and they hate how you presented it.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: And it's like it happens with everything. Every remake is
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: usually received poorly good or bad. They're like, rarely are
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: they unanimously received better? You know, it happens in yeah,
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  Speaker 2: horror movies, it happens in Marvel, it happens in Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: Like you wanted more of this content, we have to
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: create new stories and then you're mad that we created
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: new stories, and it's like, yeah, you do have to
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: try to update it. You do have to bring in
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: more current social topics. You do have to find new
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: and creative ways to scare people. If you want to
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: watch the exact same movie over again, put on the
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: fucking original and stop asking.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: For more stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, and this is one franchise where the original
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  Speaker 1: is revered as the best, and of course, if you've
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: listened to this podcast, you know that's not at all
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: how I feel. I don't think the movie's bad in
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: any shape or form, but I absolutely don't think it's
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: the best one. I appreciate what it has done for
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: slashers and you know the move, because I mean essentially
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  Speaker 1: that is what really kicked off all the slashers in
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: the eighties because before Texas Jains Saw, you had very
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: few are sorry, before Halloween from seventy eight, you had
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: very few actual like slasher movies, the like you know,
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  Speaker 1: John Carbenter's original Halloween is really credited as like the
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  Speaker 1: true like the first true slasher. So I appreciate everything
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  Speaker 1: it's done, and I am growing to like it more
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  Speaker 1: over time. But I don't know, I just feel like
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  Speaker 1: people that like Halloween are obsessed with the first movie
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  Speaker 1: so much that they nothing will ever match that for them.
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  Speaker 1: So they're just they you know, they pick up heart
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  Speaker 1: everything about the movie is for me. I am the opposite.
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  Speaker 1: I look at everything I liked about the movie and take,
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  Speaker 1: you know, enjoy what I can because did I like
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  Speaker 1: the story? No, it's fucking stupid. Why are we making
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  Speaker 1: it about Corey.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well liked it. If it had been its own movie,
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  Speaker 3: that would have been a great story.
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  Speaker 1: Like something something a Halloween tale, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like what they did with us Rogue one a Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars story.
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  Speaker 2: Or like they could have done something like freaky make
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  Speaker 2: up a serial killer, give them backstory, give him a
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: spooky mask, set that person to be the thing that
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: comes into contact Corey.
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  Speaker 3: Make your own separate fucking film.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because everything that happened with him was interesting and
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: cool and like, I really liked what happened with him,
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  Speaker 2: But in the context of a Halloween film, you're.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what why is this here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Why it does not belong here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? And and Michael Myers is, you know, barely in it.
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  Speaker 1: I think he had eight total minutes of screen time.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny because people online were like,
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  Speaker 1: he only had eight minutes, and then people told U,
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  Speaker 1: I think he has about nine and a half or
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  Speaker 1: eleven minutes in the original. So people were like, that's
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  Speaker 1: not a valid argument because he barely has more screen
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  Speaker 1: time than the original. So it's like, but at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, it does make It doesn't make
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: sense to not have your pro your know, your antagonist
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  Speaker 1: be the focal point of the last movie of a
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  Speaker 1: specific trilogy.
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  Speaker 3: Beatles only had fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, that's weird, but I know that happens
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 3: That's not unusual.
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  Speaker 1: It's not unusual. But you would expect him to have
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  Speaker 1: more screen time, you know, if for the last you
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: would just kind of expect it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But he doesn't. And he's also kind of just weak
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  Speaker 1: in this one.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like four hundred years old.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I don't care how super psychic strength he's got. He's
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: still fucking old. He's still working in a body that,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: by the way, four years prior to the events of
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: this film, had been beat to absolute shit after.
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  Speaker 3: Being on fire.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and please tell me about all the medical treatment
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  Speaker 2: he received. The fact that he didn't die of infection
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: is impressive. So yeah, of course he's all frail and shit.
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  Speaker 2: He never had medical treatment. He got beat up, and
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: then he was living in a fucking hole.
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  Speaker 1: Well. I think the problem with that though, that even
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  Speaker 1: I kind of have, is Yeah, but he's never been
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if they're trying to do something
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  Speaker 1: different and actually kind of humanize him more than all
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  Speaker 1: the other movies because he's just an unstoppable killing machine
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't ever ever show really weakness. Like remember when
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: he killed for the first time, then he started shaking
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  Speaker 1: and convulsing like he was coming back to life. I
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck was recharge? Yeah, it was
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: just weird. So I don't know. I have so many
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: mixed feelings on it, but at the end of the day,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I still enjoyed it. I liked it more than Kills
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  Speaker 1: and that's literally all I wanted. I was like, just
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: give me. I said, give me a three star movie
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  Speaker 1: and I'll be happy. And that's exactly what I got,
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  Speaker 1: a three star movie. It was good to an extent,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: it was bad to an extent, but I think we
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: can all agree that had one of the most solid intros.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: It was not Halloween at all, but that fucking cold
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: opened was absolutely insane. The kid smashed face. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So look, I'm gonna say something here.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, I hope so, and I am sorry everybody else.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I don't like this.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I don't care about the Halloween movies. I enjoy watching
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: them with you when they're on. I liked the twenty
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: eighteen one. Michael Myers has never been interesting to me.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Oh and I'm sorry, but like, oh.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: You you're the real monster.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, I'm sorry.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I know everybody like absolutely loves Michael Myers.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I don't care. He doesn't make noise.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: The most exciting feature is his ability to kill people, which,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: weirdly enough, I can watch so many other films where
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: people are just as good at killing people in creative manners.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: And they have actual, like character traits.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And this is why I'm into more into things like Scream,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: because it's like, uh, damn, but he's on the phone.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: There's more like there's more of that, where is he?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: What's he doing? It's not like who the fuck is this?
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm dead?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: And then there's like getting to the like the reason
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: why I'm sorry, but like it's more interesting to me,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: and I'm what the fuck did you expect Michael Myers
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to do the whole last movie? Again, He's a thousand
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: years old, he's been living in a hole. What did
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: you expect him to be doing? How much of the
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: film did you expect him to be in? Like, he's
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: clearly been hiding out for four years. He's not just
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: like hmm, well it's been four years. Time to get
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: out again. No, he was clearly, prior to Corey finding
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: his ass and at fucking like Cobweb cracking the wall,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: was planning on living and dying in that in that
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: sewer because he had no intention. The homeless man said.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: He occasionally drags people in there.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: People who happened to be nearby. Dude did not care.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: He was just gonna die.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I don't not to say, we just we just lost
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: half of our like twelve listeners. Okay, sorry everybody. That's yeah,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: all the people that were here to hear us talk
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: are gone now because you don't care about Michael Myers.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I care about I'm kind of hurt, Freddy.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I really heard watching the Jason films, Do I think
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Jason can be silly sometimes? Yeah, but I enjoyed them
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: more because you know, it's not like that one time, well,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: one time he murdered his sister and that means everybody
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: has to die.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: He's like, I was bullied and now I'm crazy Jason.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Oh well he was drowned.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was all messed up in the and
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: that's okay.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So like he has more of a a motivation and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: then the whole crazy your mom's telling you to kill
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: me motivation.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: No, okay, I can okay, I can see common ground
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: with you on this situation, because it always bothered me
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that the original Halloween does not explain anything. Kid just
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: snaps kills his sister, breaks out of the mental institute
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: for fucking what?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: What reason?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: You gotta give me a reason, That's what I'm saying, Like, I'm.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I can't, like, I can't connect with them because
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: he's evil, But you know, I can't really connect with
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: him as enjoying him more as a villain.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Do I like his whole.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Aesthetic thing, yeah, oh, and fucking iconic, but his iconic.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Thing is standing around and staring and how good he
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: is killing people.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I can watch several other people do
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: lots of fun kills and then we get to find
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: out why they're so fucking crazy.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. And that's why I think
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the rob Zombie ones work for me so well is
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: because Zombie gave us a backstory. But everyone that loves
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the original, we're like, we don't need a backstory, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: oh that's not how his backstory would have been and blah,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: blah blah. I don't fucking care. There was a backstory,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: there was sandom. Yeah, there was a reason for the madness.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You can't just give me no reason for madness. Every
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: single serial killer that has ever been alive has explained
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: what what. That's what I'm saying, Oh, yeah, has some
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: reason for doing it. Even if they say I don't know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that's still a reason. That's what I'm saying, Like we did, Like,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I guess that's the same. I don't.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: It's not like I hate him. I just I don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: really care that much.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Like I'll watch them when they're on, I'll watch them
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: with you. But I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I like
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Laurie as a character. Well, I think I think more
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: so now she's a little on the odd side. But
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I think that's because they also tried to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: wedge her personality over towards Jamie thee Curtis a little
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: bit towards the ladder side of these films.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Makes sense. But yeah, not having a motivation kills me.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I guess I don't know. Really it is
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: an answer. But mostly, you know, most of the time,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: when you listen to interviews with those people like all
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the shit on Netflix you see with like Ted Bundy tapes,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: like there's reasons for shit, like there was like something
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: in the childhood that fucked them up. Like there's no
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: explanation in the first movie. It's just like kid is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: what like six or seven kills? Sister. Okay, don't like
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that at all, but I guess a lot of people
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: enjoy the joy that exactly like the mystery of why
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: what drove him to that? I don't know. Fucking tell
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: me that would be great. I mean, I'd love to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: have a reason, but we didn't get one until almost,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you know, thirty years later with Rob Zombie. So yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it's very weird. You know, it seems to be that
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: everyone who really enjoyed Kills hates Ends. To be fair,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't really heard anybody say anything good about Ends.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Everyone's saying it's the worst Halloween movie ever made, like
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: they haven't fucking seen Resurrection or Kill fucking Kills or Curse.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Like have you not seen any of those Halloween movies
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: because those are all were even fucking Calloween five is worse. Okay,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. All these people that are saying Ends is
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the worst is I just I'm Sorry. I'm not saying
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you're wrong, but you're wrong. There is far worse movies.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: If we can't all agree that Resurrection is the worst,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what I'm doing
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: with my life anymore.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: At this point, it's like, you know what, let Halloween end,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: start a new franchise. Man, get a new killer, Like
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: we need someone that comes back for six or twelve
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: movies that's new and fresh, and we did not originate
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: in the seventies or eighties.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: We have that which was his name is Art the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: fucking clown. We haven't He's been in two movies. It's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: still though, I'm saying, we still have. We have a
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: new like Slasher on our hands, who's kind of filling
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: in the void that Michael Myers is not because you know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it's also indie, so it takes a lot more time
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: for them to get made. But we have two solid,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: fucking terrifier movies, and we know he's gonna make more.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: He's made like six million dollars so far on this
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: fucking movie that costs two hundred and fifty thousand.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, but but I'm disagreeing with
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you because unlike Terrifier, these were more accessible because the
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: outright like Balls to the Wall, violence and Goren, Terrifier
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: really kind of limits the audience, whereas not now Sure
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Halloween is like the parts are really exciting and other
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: parts are like, huh, this is taken a while. It's
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: accessible to people who haven't seen a scary movie before. Terrifier,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: You show that to someone who's a little antsy about
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: getting into horror, and thetter ever fucking watch another horror
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: movie again, Like it's not accessible. We need something that
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: people can like get attached to, and like, Okay, I
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: guess go Face is someone we have that's more current
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that like, we have different films and yes, obviously it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: a little different because it's someone so different is always
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: filling in the shoe.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Well it's also still twenty six years too, so.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so like we need something more recent. That's like
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: because they just keep reusing the old stuff over and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: over again.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: We had Victor Crowley for like eight years, I think,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: And I know Adam Green, I know he'd love to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: make another one and I'd love to see more Victor Crowley.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Are you shitting me? Those are hatchet movies or some
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: of my favorite Slashers. It's because it's like Terrifier, it's
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: all like practical effects, and that's what I appreciate so
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: much about Terrifier is. But I can agree that yes,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it is a little bit more and I guess inaccessible
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: in the way that it's it is hyper gory.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: And not that they're not fun to watch.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It's just like you got to give people room to
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: be interested in the films. Like, if you show someone
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: something that's so dark and violent, you're going to lose
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: an audience member because that is not the place you
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: start at.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's like showing someone a Serbian film for
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: their first horror movie, and then they'll never watch another.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: One again, or probably movies and.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Probably just bleach their eyes so they don't have to
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: see anything ever again.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I guess you'd seen a lot of people talking about
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: how they're sick of people saying, oh, this movie wasn't
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: whenever they're sharing their favorite scary movies or movies they
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: found scary, people going oh, you don't know scary un
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: till you've seen a Serbian film or this or that,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: like stop.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, stop gatekeeping.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Like we get you've seen that movie. Nobody actually wants
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to watch that movie. And if you did, good for you.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean just because it was scary for you,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean like this film I can't think is scary,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Like just because you didn't think it was scary, I can.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I have a different level of fear.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make me any less into horror movies because
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I found a film with less horrifying ima imagery but
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: still found scary.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the people that are say, you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you're not a fan of horror until you've seen this,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: or like I saw this one going around for a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: long time. It was a meme where it's like, you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: don't if you don't know who this man is, you're
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: not a true fan of horror. And it was Tom Savini,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and I commented. I was like, since when just knowing
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: about one person in horror or not knowing about them
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: make you a true fan. I was like, that's gatekeeping.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Stop stop it, stop it. You can be a true
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: fan of horror if you just enjoy watching or you
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: don't have to know who fucking Tom Savini is. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: also if you're not in the horror community. Of course,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna know who that is. That's a very
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: niche person in horror. He's very well known. But like
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you have it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: You're not into horror if you haven't seen every film
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: from every horror icon. Like that's unattainable and it's unfair
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to say, Oh, I get to decide what makes you
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: a horror fan. Yeah, maybe you just exclusively like one
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: series of horror movies.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: You're still a horror fan.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just you have a smaller like library to
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: choose from, which is fine.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: You're allowed to do that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like me, I, you know, I didn't see
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Nightmare on Elm Street until I think we said that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: in the last episode last year the year before. So
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: am I not as true horror fan just because I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen the Freddy movies.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I unfortunately saw it way too soon and that really
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: messed me up, man, just like I saw Scream too soon.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Movies that I.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Love and appreciate now, But when I was younger, people
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: showed those to me, and let me tell you, re fining.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was some upsetting shit actually, come to think
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that was right. That there's two separate people
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: to show me those movies like those were terrifying. Those
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: really upset me.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't until I was like in high school
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that I started to get more into horror films, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: then I got way more into them when you and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I got together.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: But it's like I have that effect on me.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I was more of a.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Casual horror fan growing up, and then it would be like, oh, well,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you're not horror fan enough because you don't know everything
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: about everything.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's funny you say that, though, because that was
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: what one of my exes wasn't you know, like you
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: like liked horror, but didn't you know it wasn't really
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: into it like I was. So I showed her and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: her friend's vhs and that was a horrible idea on
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: my end, because that's a pretty fucking terrifying movie if
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you've seen it, and they're just like, what are you
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: making us to watch? Oh my god? And then you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: like cut to like six months to a year later,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you know we're going to every horror movie in theaters.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I I don't have that effect on people apparently,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: where I just like make them watch horror movies like
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: watch this you fucking I'm forcing you to watch this.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And then I opened people's eyes to like these weird
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: obscure movies and they're like, ooh, I like horror now.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's you know, there's a lot of
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: stuff going on in horror. So I'm glad that Uh,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you it was well received by you,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: because it could have been.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Because I was already watching movies.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: There's plenty of horror movies that I've seen or you
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: had not seen yet or haven't seen because we watched
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: different movies and this is fun. Why do we because
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: then we can show each other different movies, Like there
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: are plenty of movies I've watched you never saw before,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and you would never have purposely watched, and then you
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed them aftertas looking.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: At you sliding windows or sliding doors. That was one
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: What was the other one that I really liked with
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you and McGregor? And it was like the fifties or
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: whatever you and McGregor had like a penthouse. He was like,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: this love fucking h It's so good. Yeah, I love
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that movie.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you also enjoyed Muriel's wedding.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: These are films you wouldn't personally looked out for for yourself.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: But it's like, even if I did see them, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Failure to Launch that was another good one you showed me.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I never watched that with you?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: What's what was the guy from Friends? Matthew Perry? What
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was that?
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: One's Russian?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Wool's Russian? And there we go.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Who are you watching movies with?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I thought it was Failure to Launch? Who's in that?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: That's Matthew McConaughey and Jay Sarah, Jessica Parker. Matthew McConaughey
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: and j Lo are in Wedding Planner. And we haven't
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: watched that yet because it's a fanuary.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: You can't keep tracking fucking.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Will Okay, uh, where were we what were we talking about?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, we were talking about gatekeeping. Horror should probably get
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: back on track.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Don't gate keep horror people, So let's go.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I want more horror movies, made horror more accessively.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, we need more people to be fans of horror.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Don't get CEP. Don't make people feel bad, because if
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you make people feel bad for not being a true
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: horror fan, then they might not they might just forget
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: about it. They'll be like, maybe this isn't for me,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: So well, it's like, why do you think I have
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: such little Marvel stuff in my office? I have that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: tight like I four figures. Maybe because I don't really
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: want to advertise that I'm big into Marvel because I'm
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: not big enough.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I like the movies, and that is not.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Considered a true Marvel fan because I haven't read every
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: fucking comic, even though I would if I even knew
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: where to goddamn begin.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a Marvel fan. It's not my personality, just
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: like Harry Potter or not, although the office does seem
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to be my personality, so there you go. Yeah, oh
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: shut up. So my thirty one days of Horror continues
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: with so much shit we had. We watched like a
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: so many movies. So let's see. I watched sleep Away two,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: sleep sleep Away or two, sleep Away Camp two and three.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I thought they were both excell movies, so fun and campy. Shockingly,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Shocker was also a great Wes Craven joint Extorcist three
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: and Death becomes Her four stars. Oh yeah, and then
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Sleepway Camp two three, Shocker three and a half. Pet
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Cemetery too, actually a really fun time with Edward Furlong
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: and Clanty Brown Brown, Clancy Brown, Clancy, Clancy Deuce. What's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: his name, Jeff Matthews, Clanty Brown, Old King, That's what
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of. Yeah, Clancy Brown is one of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the prison guards in Shawshank. He's also in Flubber and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: other movies. But that was a really good campy movie.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It was just so silly and wacky. And then we've
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: got Raising Caine, which I made you watch with me,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: which I thought was a fucking brilliant movie and fun
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: fact to everybody listening, because everybody told you this twice.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Well here goes for the third time. He want me
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to I can boy, this is cool. So I was
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: looking at what the difference between theatrical and director's cut was,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: because I always do that. Sometimes it's worth it to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: watch the directors, sometimes it's not. In this case, however,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: with Raising Caine, the director's cut is not a director's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: cut because some random dude in Holland, some random dutch
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Man saw the film somehow got the copy of it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, he recut the film into the director's cut,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: quote unquote Brian de Palma. Somehow got his hands on it,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: watched it, and liked it enough that he asked Scream
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Factory to include that cut in the Blu ray that
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: they put out. So the director's cut is more of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a fan cut, and apparently I haven't seen the theatrical.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and watch it now to see
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the differences. But the director's cut is much more mysterious
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: than intriguing. And I can tell you that movie was
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: a fucking trip. John Lithgow, I've always liked him. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: always thought he was great. I loved him in Dexter.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Of course, I always think of Lord Farka when I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: see or when I hear his voice as well, But
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: he was I thought he was brilliant in this movie.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: He portrayed a crazy person so well, and everything in
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that movie was I don't know, like you enjoyed it, right,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really fun. I really did keep
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you on your toes. I mean, obviously we figured it
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: out because it is also an older movie, so the
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: mystery storytelling some of it, we were just like, oh,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: this is probably it, and then you know, you really
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: don't know Jill the end, especially with that edit, I'm
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: sure it was different with the original edit, but yeah,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Much more nonlinear in the director's cut.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really fun and I thought they
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: did a great job with it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I gave that one four and a half because
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I really, I really enjoyed that one. Did not expect
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to see to enjoy that one so much because it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: only has a three point two on letterbox. But that's
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: probably because most people because I even posted this to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: a few groups and I was like, make sure you
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: watch the director's cut, and on every single post in
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: every you know, one of the groups that were like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: there's a director's cut, like, oh yeah, and then I
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: told him the story in a little blurb. I was like,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, and then everyone's like buying
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: it on Amazon. I'm like, oh shit, okay, so apparently
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: people don't even know what the director's cut. So if
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you haven't seen Raising Kane and you haven't seen the
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: director's cut, just buy it from shot Factory. It's like
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: sixteen bucks. It was just a surprise movie that I
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: didn't anticipate to like as much as I did. Super Solid.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And then the last thing I watched was today, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: that was Clive Barker's Lord of Illusions, which I quite
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoyed, and I think you would actually enjoy this
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: as well. Very nineties, especially with some of the cg
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: But what's his face is in it? Scott Vacula is
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: in it? And he is he is fantastic love Scott
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Bacula and fam Ka Jensen, super young Fomka Jensen cut Famkagensen. Whatever.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Lord of Illusions, it's probably my favorite Clive
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Barker directed movie so far, because Night Breed was weird.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: We all know how I feel about hell Razor, but
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: this one. I enjoyed this one very much. My favorite
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Clive Barker like movie of all time is obviously Midnight
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Me Trained, but he didn't, so you know. But yeah,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that's what I've been watching. You've been watching pretty much
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the same thing as me and mine, as some of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: my thirty one days of horror. And we watched Scream
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: one and two the other day, and we're gonna watch
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the other three at some point because you can't just
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: watch one or two. Yeah, gotta go to the dumpster
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: fire and then it brings it back with four and
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: five is just fucking awesome. Oh yeah, we gotta do
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: our lists. We gotta do our lists. Did you not
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you said you did a list.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my overalls in the other arm.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: You should go get it while I kill some time. Okay, wait,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you wrote it down, you didn't put it on your phone.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I go run and get it quickly. I'll just kill
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: some time by saying no, I will and I will
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: not do that. So, uh, what's going on, Zuel? I
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: don't have any treats for you. I have to kill
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: some time. No idea how long she's gonna be? Oh goodness,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but yes, it is a is exciting time, an exciting
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: time for horror right now, especially because it's October. We
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: been watching The Midnight Club by Mike flanagain. We are
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: like five episodes into that. It is uh, definitely different
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: than his normal stuff. I feel like I've already said
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: this on a previous episode, but I've been on like
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: three podcasts in the last week, so I can't remember
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: half the fucking shit I say. You were sprinting. Hey,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: all right, so I told you to do five. I
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: did fifteen because I couldn't fuck it. You couldn't just
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I couldn't arrow it down. Man, I brought to make
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: me look back. I broke them up into five sections
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: of five or three sections of five. I didn't do
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: twenty five.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I five, we're gonna go from five from field get
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: to explain why?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Sure, I mean, I I have two on here that
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: really aren't slashers. So, uh so we're gonna do our
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: We were gonna do an NBA draft style picking of
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: favorite slashers, but I figured mining years are gonna be
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: totally different anyway, So we're just gonna do our top
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: five slashers. I did fifteen because I have no self control.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: But we'll do our five and then I'll name off
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: mine and then we'll keep going.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: So uh and then we'll get to the movie.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the movie. Yeah, so what's your number?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: What's your fifth? One? Oh?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I had to order these.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Uh well, yeah, I figured least favorite, you know, least
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: favorite to favorite.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I will go with the butcher from Freaky Oh okay nice.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I only selected him sometimes her because of the creativity
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and the adaptability of the kills, like I will kill
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: you with what's most conveniently nearby, never like oh, I'm
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: gonna get something that's more like glanced to the left,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: bottle of lance to the right. Oh there's something right there. Perfect,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I'll murder you with that. So I really appreciate that
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: enthusiasm and just like I will, just let the universe
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: bring me your your murder weapon.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it should always be done. Number five
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: for me is Art the Clown. Not gonna explain that one,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: pretty self explanatory shocker. You don't, you don't, you don't,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: you don't even know, you don't even know. You think
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: someone's gonna be on my top five, but they're not
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: on my top five, and so far it was what's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: your four?
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Adrian Griffin the Invisible Man?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Think about it?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: And is a guy who is invisible who is killing
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: people around mostly the kills take place around one woman.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: But not only does he you know, kill people with this.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Oh then remake, Yeah, but he.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Gaslights her into thinking she's crazy. That's killing with you
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: know some flavor?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Wow, you got some really creative answers. These are far
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: better than mine.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Ha.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: No, they're gonna just fall apart.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Uh oh.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Towards the top.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Number four Victor Crowley, again not explaining.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: That art and oh my god, I can't believe it art.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: The Clown and Victor Crowley are both like new Age
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: old horse old horror, old horror. There are new age
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: movies with.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Old school horror, gore moments, the old horror Old Horrors.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Number three for you, Freddy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: You don't need to explain that. Chucky for me again,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: don't need to explain it. I love his attitude and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: he's just he's just it's so much fun.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: You're finally gonna get to check out the show.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah with Brad Door voicing him. No offense to Mark Hamill,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: because I can't. I can't even be mad at Mark Hamill,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Like he's a great voice actor and an awesome human
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: being and a great actor. But I just it wasn't Chucky.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: So I thought the.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Movie was fine. It was just a little on the
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: silly side.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the CG did not look CG. But yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Chucky for me. Number two Peach Fuzz, Oh shit.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Instead of being.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: The slasher that comes to you, he lures people in.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they get away, but you know he gets to
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: it either way. The uh, luring someone in, exposing you're
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: crazy from the get go, and getting them to stay.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful Wow, all right, my number two not really
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a slasher, but I don't care. I'm bending the rules.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Jigsaw, Oh my god, I could have made your top
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: five for you.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Fuck off. You would have put Jason in there.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Uh probably yeah?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Ghost Face be on No.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: No One for me's ghost Face. I never loving ghost
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Face despite it being the thing that traumatized me for
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: well over a year.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: There is something really beautiful about a horror icon that
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: people can't those horror icons, the people cannot stop feeling
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: compelled to pick up the mantle and commit some murder.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: With Yep, You're never gonna guess my number one. It's impossible.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: It is impossible. I want you to guess first.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, now.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: You cause you're gonna be like, oh, it's what I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: was going to guess. No, you guess first.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I really won't if it's not.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, another one that's not when you think of it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: like you you have to think about it. He is
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a slasher in a way because he's murdering the shit
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: out of people. It's mahogany from Maybe.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thought you put that on the midnight.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Meat Train because he's more of a butcher when you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: think about it. But he is still he is still
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: murdering people with handheld fucking instruments on the subway.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: So that is a rule. Because I asked you and
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: you said that wasn't a rule.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: What well no, no, no, no, I'm saying it does. It
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: does actually fit the like stereotypical slasher. He's killing people
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: with cleavers with hooks, like handheld things. So that's my
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: number one.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Sorry, my list took a while to make because you
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: asked me, and then I suddenly forgot everything horror icon ever,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: what horror movies I had ever seen, and what a
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: slasher was.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, my brain is so blank.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and then you were like, try not to
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: pick all the obvious ones.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I don't know if I've
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: ever seen them.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I tried to. You know, we both
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: had like one major one, Like I had Chuckie, you had,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Had goes Face in Freddy to be fair, Freddy, he's awesome. Yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: and I tried to pick.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Some more niche ones.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: No, I like that was from Creep and Creep two.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: By the way, there's gonna be a creep three one
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: day if what's his Facebook?
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Stop acting in television and get back to his ship.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. Six through ten, we've got Jason or sorry,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: going six to ten, Jason the Collector, Freddie Michael Myers,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and then the Fishermen from My Note you did Last
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Summer eleven to fifteen, Angela from Sleeve Away Camp two
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and three, Todd Slash, Terry from Blood Rage, Russ Thorne
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: from Sumber Powdy Massacre, Cropsy from the Collector, No Cropsy
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: from the Burning not the Collector, and Frank from Maniac Boom. Yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let's get onto this movie. As you know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: this is the last episode where you maybe don't maybe
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. This is the last episode of Slash Tober.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: This was an all scream factory slashed over. We began
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the month with a not so traditional slasher, the Strangers,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day it is three
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: people in masks with knives. I'm calling it a slasher.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Stop making face some me. Then we did Behind the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Mass Rise of Leslie verh no, sorry sorry. We did
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Candy Man, which again guy with hook killing people slasher,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: and then we did Behind the Mass Rise of Leslie Vernon,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: which was literally about a serial killer coming back to
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: murder people, and now Cherry Falls is going to cap
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: this month off in the most epic way, imaginable that
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: you never would have thought because this is balls to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the wall slasher. We're talking moments towards the end of
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the movie, we're slash slash slash slash like it's amazing,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: So go ahead. Oh no, I gotta go ahead. Sorry,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I gotta do the thing over here, faces at me.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I was trying to say something ahead and stop talking.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Im okay.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of Candy Man, for those of
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: you who've seen it on there, it's more geared towards
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: like teens and whatnot. But there is the School for
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Good and Evil that went on Netflix, which has a
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: wildly like why has everyone in this film been nominated
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: for an.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Oscar at some point kind of vibe to it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Not the kids, obviously they were terrible, most of them acting,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: but it There was actually a moment where a black
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: guy in a trench coat was covered in bees and
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, you guys couldn't think of another animal
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: to put him in because it's like, why are you
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: doing a Candyman thing? In this movie right now, super bizarre.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: It's a chaotic film, but.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: It was kind of fun to watch though.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Dynamite, Yeah, it's like horror, Jason.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: If you're like, you wouldn't show your kid a horror
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: movie because there's a lot of there's a lot of
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: like dark themes in it.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Crimson Peak no like.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Becoming evil and uh evil.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Speaking of evil, let's talk about cherry Falls, pure evil.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: So evil.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: That's loosely interpreted.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: From two thousand, released on October twentieth of that year,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: straight to TVs. We'll get to that in the trivia.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Rated R for mild sex and nudity, severe violence and gore,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: moderate profanity, mild alcohol, drugs and smoking, and moderate frightening
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: and intense scenes coming in at a whopping one hour
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and thirty two minutes. Listed as a horror mystery thriller
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: directed by a man named Jeffrey Wright, who has eight
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: directing credits. Also did Macbeth from two thousand and six.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Don't even know if that's an actual full length movie,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: could be a play. I don't know.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: It's got the guy from Avatar in it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I checked. Dynamite, Yeah, written by Ken Selden, who has
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: writing credits. Also did White Lies from nineteen ninety seven.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Don't know what that is, but this was the last
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: movie he wrote in two thousand.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to end on a high note.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: And then one of the guys with my or one
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: of my favorite names of this list is composed by
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: a man named Walter Worzwa has thirty eight composer credits.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Also did Hell Raiser, Inferno, and Mimic two. Yes, it's
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: really weird that this is the caliber people were working
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: with because this movie was so fucking awesome. Cinematography Anthony B.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Richmond probably did the most out of everyone that I've
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: mentioned so far, ninety four directing or ninety four credits
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: for cinematography. Also did Candy Man, which we just did recently,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: The Sandlot, Ravenous, Just Friends, Employee of the Month, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Good Luck Chuck. What a wildly different Yeah, wildly different movies. Yeah,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: horror movie, kids movie, love movies, got it.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Love movies. Lo, that's what you're gonna call them. Rom
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: comes there you go, let's not call him love movie.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: That sounds like something else.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: It's really trough, poor noos. It's really funny because when
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: we did candy Man, and I was like, oh, this
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: guy did Cherry Falls, which I just received from the mail.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do that. At some point I was referring
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to this episode You're Welcome, starring Britney Murphy as Jodie
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: markin sixty eight acting credits. Also in Clueless as Tie Girl,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: interrupted as Daisy, and Just Married as Sarah. Are you
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: gonna add anything to that? Because I figured you would.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: She was also in Uh Dropped at Gorgeous?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: There you Go. Who've got Jay Moore as Leonard Marleston
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: ninety acting credits. Also in Jerry maguire as Bob Sugar,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Pay It Forward as Chris Chandler, and The Adventures of
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Pluto Nash That Jim as Tony Francis. Yeah, Yeah, the
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: biggest bomb ever. Michael bine Bean as Sheriff Brent markin
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve acting credits. This guy is probably
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the most well known because he was in Aliens as
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Corporal Hicks, The Terminators Kyle Rees, and Planet Terror as
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Hague. Nothing oh, nothing important, No iconic movies at all.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And then we've got Jesse Bradford as Rod Harper fifty
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: five acting credits, I don't know why he's in there.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: He dies in the first five minutes, so that was
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: my bad. He was also been bringing out again as
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Cliff Pantone and swim Fan is Ben Cronin and then
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: last but not Leaves, We've got Candy Clark as Marge Markin,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: who has seventy one acting credits. Was also in American
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Graffiti as Debbie and Zodiac as Carol Fisher. This has
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: an estimated budget of fourteen million dollars worldwide box office
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: gross of NA because it went straight to TV and
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: it was filmed and din Witty Warrenton Petersburg and Richmond, Virginia.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: You can currently watch this on AMC Plus with subscription
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: or buy the Scream Factory Blu ray for twenty dollars
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: off of Amazon. Movies that came out are at the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: same time. Talk about some bangers. We've got Earl Urban
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Legends final cut, Remember the Titans, Meet the Parents, Requiem
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: for a Dream, but Dazzled, amazing movie. Pay It Forward,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Charlie's Angles, No, that's angels. Wow, I didn't spell that.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I thought I spelled that wrong, and I was reading
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: it wrong because I thought I spelled it wrong. Little Nikki,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: which we just watched hilarious the sixth Day how the
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Grin stole Christmas and Rugrats in Paris did not know
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the rug Rats were still that pop. Oh, this is
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: two thousand. I was thinking that in theaters. Did you
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: have any specific horror mementos in.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: This Ooh none that I'm willing to share for the spoilers,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I will share mine because there was a couple that
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I could have just that I just picked from.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: So the one I'm just gonna choose to have one
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: was the locker death when Homie just like burst out
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: of the locker with like the hole in his head
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa, oh shit, very bloody. Did
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you have a you know my favorite kills absolutely spoiler? Yeah, yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: favorite scene. No, sorry i added this in. I added
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: this in because I was like, this is something I
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: have to mention. But my favorite scene was the was
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the fight between Jody and the killer in the lab
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: with the Matrix music in the background.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, she was just wailing, stuffed like she climbed on
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: top of a like a cabinet. Yeah, don't go for
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: the door. Climb on a cabinet where apparently there was
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: a whole ass like box Cutter, just open and ready, and.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Then she was yeating glass jars down at the killer.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: That was such an epic scene. I was like, it
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: can't get better than this. Oh but it does, Oh
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: but it does. Did you have a favorite character?
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: No, I mean Jody was fine.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Leonard for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll see. Least favorite
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: character for me is every rapie boy in this movie,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: because it was about ninety percent of them.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: You know. We were talking about this and I was like,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: this film clearly hates women.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: And then I realized, no, I've got that backwards.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: This this film clearly thinks old men are trash.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's actually.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: The vin Yeah, but you don't get that at first
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: because there's like some very rapy moments in the beginning.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of unnecessary pressure yeah, where he's like what
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: did he say?
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I have to finish my mission and like try the
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: guy was saying.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Like some weird it was like one of those car
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: makeup scenes and the guy was saying all this weird
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: spacey type crap. And then he's like, let me show
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: you the way I love and he reaches his hands
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: between her legs and she's like uh no, and he goes,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I have to finish my mission, then proceeds forward anyway.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: And she's like, no, what do you not understand about?
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: No? Yeah, and another guy who uh broke up with it.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: We'll get into it, but uh yeah, just a lot
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: of I don't respect your boundaries, and I don't respect
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: your willing or your unwillingness to have sex with me
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: on demand.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: It's kind of weird. No, I don't like that that
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: situation at all. Uh did you have did you have
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: a least favorite character?
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say Kenny, but he came back round,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: which was confusing.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: He's still a shit bag though, No, no, he is, but.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: He came back round in such an unexpected way that
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, I can't hate him as much because
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: he is sticking it out in a really tough moment where.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: He could have easily bailed if he were a shittier.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Person not played foot more often. This is great.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I don't even know when this started.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Did you have a favorite quoter line? I have? All right?
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: The lines were absolutely amazing. You know what I do
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: have one? It's schools out.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: No scut No, no, no, it wasn't schools out. It
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: was a class dismiss Oh yes, yeah, so good. Oh yeah.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: There there's a lot of wacky one liners in the
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: third act that come out of nowhere that just fucking
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: killed me that so I have three. One of them
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: was there's there's two people in the beginning of the
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: movie that die, and someone was like, well, you know,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: is anybody mean to him or any memories? And someone's like,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: she was like, I got in a fight with Rod
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: in eighth grade and told him to eat shit and die,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and then breaks down crying, and I'm like, okay, we
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: all just say things. I don't think you you know.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's holding it again.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's holding it against you. And then I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: had the other two, which holy Hymen's batman, they're killing
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: virgins dead. And then my favorite one of all time
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: is if the students find out this person is killing virgins,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have a fuck fest on our hands. The
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: best fucking laughs so loud. I hurt my own ears.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: IMDb summary. In the small town of Cherry Falls, a
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: psychotic murder is killing off the virgins of the local
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: high school. Take it away. Oh boy.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: So, as we previously stated, the film opens up on
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: a couple making out in a car, and then we
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: already explained everything the creepy boy did when he tried to,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: you know, go full steam ahead when the girl said no, well,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: she gets out of the car and he coaxes her
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: back into the car, which is insane.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe she was willing. Agreed, Yeah, what
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: are you doing lady.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: So they go back to like kind of talking and
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: making out again insane, h crazy, And some car pulls
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: up with the lights really bright, like they had the
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: brights on into the back of their cars.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: So the guy gets.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Out, thinking it's one of his friends screwing around with him,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: and uh.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: They don't answer.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: So when he walks up, it's someone with long hair. Basically,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I think he hits him with the door. The killer
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: like hits him with the door.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: You can't see.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: All you see is hair and a person, and the
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: killer like hits him with the door.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I thought I tried to do that as off.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: And like proceeds to just like beat the shit out
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: of this kid and the girl again, she does not
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: seem to be the brightest. Uh, just sits in the
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: car screaming at him to run, locks the doors and
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: then when they both disappear, she hears the boy crying
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: by the door, and so she finally lets unlocks it,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: just in time for the killer to be exactly where
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: he was with his bait, or's just stay there bait
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: because you really don't know who it is, but with
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the bait, and they like break into the car. The
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: girl tries to run away, the killer pins her against
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: the tree and starts murderating her. And when the film started,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, it's a guy. And then you're like, oh,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: they're wearing a skirt.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I was wrong. The killer's a woman.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Oh their nails are painted. Okay, not the same guys
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: can't paint their nails, but yeah, the long hair of
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the nails, the skirt, You're like a woman killer. Interesting, Yeah,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued already, Like.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: That doesn't happen as often, very very seldom.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: So then it cuts over to another couple making out,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: which is.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: What It's just such a horny movie, Like, oh, I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: was like, what did I say? Right off the bat?
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I looked to do. It's like, is this like due?
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: This movie's already hornier than Bromstaker's Dracula.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, I outright told you it's a movie about
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: people getting killed for being virgins.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: What did you think was gonna happen in this film?
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: But sexuality? Yeah, I don't know. I didn't expect everyone
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: to be fucking like that already, like right off the bat.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's Brittany Murphy's character, whose name once again
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: has left my head.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Her name is Jody.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Jody and her.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Shit heel boyfriend sometimes Kenny uh making out in a
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: car and he is talking about he is trying to
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: push things further, because apparently that's all the boys in
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: this town know how to do is disrespect boundaries.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Disrespect you about.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Oh you think you don't disrespect my bad?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry, sorry don't yeah sorry, yeah, I mean yeah,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: that's what yeah. Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Uh. So they're making out and she's like, no, I
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: don't want to do that yet, and he apparently takes
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: this to mean that he should break up with her
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: because she won't.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Have sex with him, which is always classy.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, it has been a year.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Come on, you know, a year for a high school
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: teasing It's so crazy, it's been a year. Yeah, a
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: high schooler, if this is your first serious relationship, holding
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: hands may have been racy at the time, So maybe
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: simmer down.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: If you're in your twenties or something and it's been
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: a year and you're not doing it, then like, hey,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: there must be a reason at that point.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like a high school or take as much
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: time as you Actually, anyone should take as much time
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: as they need, but you know, like high schoolers generally,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: that stuff goes a lot slower.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in drama or the band or something.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I lost my virginity when I was nineteen,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: so I would probably have died in this movie because
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I was. We're sharing on air now, I mean, you know,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: we're talking about virginity. So yeah, I was nine. I
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: was either I was it was eighteen or nineteen. It
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: was after high school though, I know that, but it
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: was before I was told.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Don't you mean we waited until we were married?
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, no one ever.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: We didn't even kiss until that they Yeah, so anyway, Uh.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: They fucking I shared mine. It's time for you to
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: share yours.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Come on, you're making me share something personal about my
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: self that I don't want to share.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought we were I thought we were
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: just in the sharing mood.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: No, I was being sarcastic.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I don't really want to share those Fine, yeah, sorry,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want to share that information with strangers or.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Something to the bat, I'm a hussy. Then sorry, yeah
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: you are. I'm kidding. Go ahead anyway.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: So there she stops it.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: He says he's gonna break up with her because she
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: won't put out, and then her mom shows up and
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: they're kind of discussing about whether or not her father
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: is home because he or she will get in trouble
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: with him for breaking curfew. And Mom's like, ah, you
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: got time to sneak in.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: She sneaks in.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Her dad is just in her room, and it turns
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: out the reason he's so uptight, he's the sheriff.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Enough for the boat of us.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, she's like, sixth graders have later curfews than me,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: and they're like, they're not the sheriff's daughter.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Like I just gonna lord that over my head or
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: what what?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Why? What does that even mean? You're you're you're advocating
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: for sixth graders to be out later than me. It's
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: weird rule. It's a weird thing to say, dad.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: So weirdly enough, the dad gets the call about murders,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: and despite her dad being the sheriff, Uh Jon Jony,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Jody Jody, Yeah, uh, Jody does not have any fucking
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: clue when she comes to school the next day that
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: anyone has died. She thinks there's just gossip about this couple,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: and someone else is, in a very nice way, said
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: they are deceased dead, they are no longer on this
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: mortal coil.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Just like bro could have said that a weird a
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: different way.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, they're Uh, she's kind of surprised and
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: shocked at that information.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Everyone in the school is talking about it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: They find out that.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: The girl and the boy who died had virgin carved
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: into them. So the father shows up with the police
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: force and comes to the school to ask questions and
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: talk to the students because you know, they want to
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: talk to people that knew the kids. And while Jodie's
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: English teacher is having a whole conversation about like maybe say,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: talking on the subject if there's anything they need to say,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: that's when people take a very flippant uh tone about death,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: and you're like, why do you guys treating this like
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: a joke? Oh yeah, mister Marleston's class.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Leonard Marleston.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they are taking a really flippant response.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: They're not taking it seriously. Then the sheriff comes in
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: starts trying to talk to them about it.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: But kids are asshole.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So every every senior that has ever existed has always
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: thought they were too fucking cool for school. Even if
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: you you know, jus uh, nerds, goths, whatever, doesn't matter
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: everyone at that point in time, you just you don't
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: realize it until you look back on it. But I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: one sent thought I was the absolute shit. And you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: know when I was a senior, you know, you just
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: you have that that certain timeframe where you just think
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: you're like untouchable.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everyone goes through that at some point
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: in their life. I don't know, it's weird. So yeah,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: these kids are just fucking.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Douche seriously though, So Jody is there with her bff
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: eating lunch and apparently overnight Kenny has gotten a whole
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: ass other girlfriend, Like, it's been twelve hours, where.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Did she come from?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: It's been one day, So that was super bizarre, and uh,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Jody tries to facilitate a conversation between her bff and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: this stoner guy who's eating chips by sticking his tongue
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: out and picking them up off the plate with his tongue.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was amazing. I'm just gonna say that. I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: was watching that, like what they tell him to do
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: on set that day, Hey, be a weirdo.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Stack your feet a pothead.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, they were smoking weed. Later in the movie,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that all happens, and uh, then during the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: midst of this lunch, a girl comes tearing into the.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Into the lunch room and.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Starts beating the ship out of this guy because she
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: says he's been saying things about her. And then he
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: makes some derogatory remarks in a reference to her supposedly
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: giving him a blowjob, which she says is untrue, thereby proving, yes,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: every guy at the school is gross.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Apparently everyone's is just a ship bag.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and shout out to that girl though, because not
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: only was she beating his ass a when the principal
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: came in, like with the administrators try to break it up,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: she socked him right in the stomach.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah's tumbling down.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Three guys to like detain her, and you're like damn girl.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Get it, dude. Women have that strength. It's like the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: mother lifting her car off you know that that whole
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: trope and movies where the you know, the kids that
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: needs help and the mom just lifts the car to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: save the kid. That men. Women have that, you know,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: that crazy strength. I don't know what it is. You
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: guys just summon it from deep and deep down.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a good time that happens.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Uh. We get to see Jody taking fighting lessons from
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: her dad, which ends with him pinning her down on
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: the ground in.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: A very very weird way.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: It was very sexual.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: It was like, God, if he were her age, this
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: would be a moment where you'd think they'd kiss.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: There was this very weird.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: And sestuous thing going on between her and her parents
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: where it was like both parents it wasn't oh, they're
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: being creepy with her, but it was like, hmm, they feel.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: A little sho close.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Well, fucking mom's kissing her on the mouth, which is
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: ultra weird.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Like I understand people do that with their toddlers or babies.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: You're sixteen year old, yeah, and even then for me,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: that's still weird to kiss your child on the lips.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I don't, uh, when you're a kid whatever, but yeah,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: if you're a high school senior and you're kissing your
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: child on the lip, that's fucking weird. And then yeah,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: you have the weird incestuous relationship with the dad when
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: especially are you gonna talk about you Okay, okay, yeah,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: well I'll comment on that when you do that. But yeah,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: very weird relationship going on in this in this household.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I was I was very uncomfortable by it.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And at that point it cuts to the evening
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: and there is a the girl who was whooping that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: boy's ass in the lunch room. Uh, she's at home
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: and uh, her parents aren't there, and someone's like trying
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: to get in the door and you can you can
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: see that it's whoever it was.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Again, this is someone in a skirt with boots, long hair,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: and a coat.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a leather jacket.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: It's funny.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: We were kind of talking about the look and we're like, oh,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: kind of vibes like the malignant look, Like did they
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: use this as a point of reference, because no, so similar.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, James Wand absolutely had to use that
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: as a point of reference because the long black hair,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: the leather I mean, it wasn't a trench coat. It
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: was like a leather jacket. And then the knife that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: you know, because the fucking killer had these like awesome
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: interchangeable knives with different hands.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: You can play knife like, you can pop them.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: On and off, you can pop the handle off and
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: put it on different blades and like when he was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: when the killer was running, but I'm gonna throw you. Oh,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: just do it. Yeah, when the killer was running at
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: what's her face? Jody with like, I was like, this
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: is malignant. I was like, this is just I mean,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: obviously not in the same context of, you know, the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: twist that went with malignant, but just the how the
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: killer looked. I was like, yeah, James wand definitely saw
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: this and was like, ooh, I could take this and
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: use this and make it even crazier.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: So yeah, So where was they you mean forget?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the girl and the person's like, oh,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: your mom said I could come over.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Can I just leave a note?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: And she's like, uh, I guess. So she looks like
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: she wants to say no, and you're like, why say yes?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Then if you are uncomfortable? Yeah, says yes anyway, gets
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: murderated and also gets virgin carved onto her leg. At
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: this point, they realize that the person is they've like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: proven that these are these people are virgins. They can't
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: really prove the guy's a virgin, but like the women
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: because they're hymen's attact, which by the way, doesn't actually
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: mean anything.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: That is a myth. But they're like, oh, we can prove.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: That they are, so they're just going after virgins and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: uh so it's like a whole thing, and they just
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: sound decide to like call a town meeting to at
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: least tell the parents, not the kids, because they want
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: everyone to be safe. And there is this extremely weird
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: moment where Jodie's dad wakes her up in the middle
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: of the night to ask her if she's a virgin
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: and how far she and Kenny have gone and could
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: they go further?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Like what?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: And then she is like, are you are you mad?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I'm still a virgin? What the fuck conversation are we
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: having in this household?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: But what's going on?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Throughout the film she'll just go daddy, Yeah, why do
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: you keep saying it in that breathy voice, calling your
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: dad daddy? Like if that's a thing that you've had
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: long established whatever, But why do you have to say
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: it's so breathy?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I think there is is a certain at least for me,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: if I had a daughter, there'd be a certain time
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: where I want her to stop calling me that, just
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: because I don't know, I feel like it would be
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: weird in your teenage years.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Usually you stop doing that when you're older.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but mainly because of the weird kink that's
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: associated it was.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: It's also way too popular.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: It's also way too popularized, where like guys love being
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: called daddy, and I'm like, that's not no, I don't
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: want that. I don't Yeah, I don't know. So, yeah,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: it's just a weird thing with her in her name.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: That's your thing, that's your thing.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: But I'm oh, yeah, I'm not.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not, like, we're not kink shaming him, just like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: that's not mine.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: That's just not my bag. I don't want to be
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: referenced as daddy. That's just I won't. So the only
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: time I find that funny was in that HJHN house, Dude,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: that was the.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Only time anyway, So we have that old weird moment,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: then we have a moment where Jody goes to give
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: her teacher, Leonard A her class work from T. S.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Eliott and.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Proceeds to read parts of the poetry to him, like
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: recite them. And it were like that is both cringey
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: and weird, and she kind of feels like she's flirting
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: with him, which also felt weird, and the fact that
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: he wasn't like deterring that kind of behavior or like
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: even implying that that was not something you'd be comfortable with,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: especially especially as her teacher as an adult, Like, let
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: me tell you, most teachers, if their kid get any
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: whiff of that, and they're like, nope, let's be clear
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: the boundaries right here, and I will not give you
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: any kndication that that is anywhere near. Well, like teachers
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: like to be seen as basically kindles to their students.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: We are sexless beings.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oil, So.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she has that weird moment.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Well, then they hear a noise, so and she thinks
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: she sees someone standing in the hallways. So they go
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: to investigate and what yeah, and then uh, they find
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: a cigarette butt and but they don't find anybody, but
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: they do see it. But we see that there's someone
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: standing there with a shoe with a little checker pattern
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: on it. So she leaves the teacher. The teacher goes
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: to the town meeting, and then that's when we have
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: an epic chase scene between her and the killer.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite scene.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: You know, that's right, Well, I think I'm slightly ahead
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: of myself. She goes to spy on the town meeting.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, with her friend who is the like
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: the reporter of the school, and when he goes to
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: borrow her phone, she goes off looking for him, finds
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: his body and Timmy. She finds Timmy's body in the
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: locker room, and that's when she is attacked by the killer,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: and the killer and her have a very epic chase
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: down moment. Oh yeah, it's really spectacular. She does, in fact,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: sling a whole ass shark at him at one point.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was so epic, and then knocks him out.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: And it's also, yeah, Timmy was a pretty big red
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of red herrings in this. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: they they It's like it's I was misdirected at who
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I thought was the killer throughout the entire movie. You
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: never would have expected that person. I was like, oh,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: fuck it, that makes sense.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: And so she escapes and then she gets to go
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: to the police station where she gives the description of
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: the woman that chased her, whose face was completely covered
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: in hair, so she doesn't actually really know much about
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: what the person looked like, so she's doing her best
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: to describe her. And then she drops on a phone
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: call after her dad looks a little uncomfortable based on
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: the description. She drops on a phone call about a
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: woman whose name is.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Laura Lai, either Laura Lee or Laura Lai. I thought
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: they said Laura al but they spelled it Laura Lee,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: so let's just say Laura I.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Laura Irman Sherman.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: And she doesn't know who that is, and so she
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: does try to figure it out, but she's like not
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: kind of getting any info on it. And then it
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: turns out all the students find out about the whole
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: there this killer's killing virgins.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: That happens at the time meeting that they were spying on.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they had the students decide to throw a.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Beard?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: And then I hit the mic, sorry a pop your
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: cherry party?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, where all the students are gonna get together
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: at this abandoned house to bang each other so that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: way they won't get murdered.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: And you're like, you make your joke about the thing,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: which joke about this school would become famous for.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like this school is gonna set a record
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: for prom night babies.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: And then when you said that during the movie, I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: was like, prom night dumps to baby.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: From family, Like, uh, well, they do at least put
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: in a nice little moment where the girls get together
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: to talk about what to realistically expect because the one
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: girl that knows what happens, uh sets realistic expectations and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: talks about birth control and uh protection.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, I don't hate that they
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: had this scene because.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Normally they're like, ah, we don't even need to discuss condoms,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: and these girls are like what can we do about protection?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: And she's like I recommend using condoms in this instance
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: and whatnot, And you're like, huh, most of these films
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even bother discussing it.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Well, but I mean they're all versions, so they're not
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna have a sexually transmitted disease, so they
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: really don't need to be that.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Well that's not true, because that doesn't they didn't say virgins,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: only there could be plenty of people there who have
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: had sex before that are just looking.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: To get Like, oh, I thought they were all supposed
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: to be virgins.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: All the virgins were showing up.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, well but yeah, so it was a it
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: was actually kind of a nice that, like they actually
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: brought it up.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so this is all happening. Uh.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Jody gets to her mom, who is wildly drunk at
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: all times, uh.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: This time in the kitchen in the afternoon with the bottle.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, like she is straight drinking out of
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: that bottle.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: It looks full size liquor bottles and.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Looks super nervous, just like Jody's dad did earlier. They're
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: nervous about everything going on, and you get really weird
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: vibes as to like what the fuck's going on?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so she brings up.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Laura Sherman to her mom, who's like, Nope, never heard
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: of that, don't know who that is, just kind of
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: brushes it off entirely. So she sneaks out, goes to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: the library, looks up this missing girl. Her mom follows her,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: yells at her, She yells back at her mom, who's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: too drunk to actually get into a full on argument,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: and at this point her mom reveals the reason everyone's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: nervous about Laura Lei Sherman. And by the way, well
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: this is happening. The father has gone to West Virginia
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: for mystery reasons, and apparently it is to look for
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: said Laura.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Lai Sherman.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Goes to the house or something yeah.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Where he doesn't find her, but he finds a bunch
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: of weird shit with like just baby dolls and stuff.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: It's odd.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: So then we find out from the mother Laurali Sherman
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: was an outcast when they were seniors in high school
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: and one night she or she claimed to have been
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: raped by four men, but no one believed her because
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: she was weird and uh, the guys they were referring
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: to were in good standing families, so they just didn't
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: do anything about it, and nothing ever happened with it. Well,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: she starts asking who the men were, and one of
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: them is her principal, and after some back and forth
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: with her mother, turns out the fourth guy was her father.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: She says, though, that her father didn't actually participate and
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: that he was really he was too drunk, he was
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: falling down to actually have participated. Uhh, but he did, yeah,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: which is her point. She's like, so he told them
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: what happened then, and she's like known, You're like, so
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like that's any better to me. And
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: at this point, now you know something is going on
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: that connects this big because the person that has been
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: killing people looks exactly like Laura Lei Sherman.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: So is it Loralai? Is it someone seeking vengeance on
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: her behalf?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: Who's it gonna be? Why are they doing this?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: And God's name are they killing all these virgins?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Uh? With the way they were going in the third act,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I really was hoping for a Scooby Doo moment where
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: they pull off the wig and it's like it's this
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: man from the Old Cellar or whatever, because at that
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: point it just was so off the rails and chaotic.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole movie was absolutely absolutely chaotic, but
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: that third act was popped off. That third act was
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: the most bonker shit I've seen him so long. And
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I was hooting and hollering, yeah, you and I both
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: both of it. Yeah. There were so many killer lines
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: that just had us like wailing. It was insane. So
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I call that what That's what I would call a
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: perfect three act structure, slow exposition, interesting, you know, like
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: build up, and then just a fucking bonkers third act.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I need to see what you rate,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: like would rate this to see where I'm at, because
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: I'm at a pretty fucking high with my rating.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I had, which is sort of
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: a spoiler but sort of not a spoiler, that an
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: issue with I know there some of my predictions. I
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: was concerned about what they were gonna do with the
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: villain because I had some speculations.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: It did not go the way I was worried it
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: was gonna go. So that was nice.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: That was good. Yeah, But upon.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Further reflection of the whole dad being there for the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: rape of this woman when he was younger, they kind
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: of explained that, like he was drunk, but his friends
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: put him on top of this girl, so he knew
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: what was happening, but he was like two fall down
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: drunk to even stand, and his friends were the ones
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: that were moving him.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: You're like, this feels.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Weirdly grey, kind of feels like they assaulted both of
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: you at that point, because if you couldn't even stand,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: let alone move, and they were moving you on your behalf,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: you could have been aware, but not necessarily in control
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: of your own faculties to made that decision. So at
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: that point that kind of feels like your friends used
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: you to rape somebody while simultaneously like raping you using
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: somebody else. It's just like it was very weird. Like
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I kind of don't know where I fall with the
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: dad because I'm like, it kind of feels like he
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: didn't really get a choice in the matter either, because
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: he was so absolutely shitfaced that he didn't even know
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: what was happening, but he knew what was happening, Like
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: he was too incoherent to really make decisions.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, that was a really weird part of that movie.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: It was like, oh, you could have just left it
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: where we thought he didn't do anything, but now it
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: turns out he did. Oh. It was like Dad just
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: got real dark, Man got real dark. And you know what,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: for a two thousands movie, I'm proud to say we
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: almost made it all the way through without a homophobic
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: statement until someone had to come out of fucking left
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: field with butt pirate and you're like, really, guys, Oh
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: we were someone a home and yeah, someone called someone
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a homo. We were like, we were an hour and
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: eight minutes into this one hour and thirty minute movie
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: with no homophobic statements. We almost did it, guys.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Come on, Honestly, on the two thousands homophobic scale, if
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: we go from like a one to ten, I'd say
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: it was like a one.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I say it like a tomb just because of the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Tuesday statements, you know, yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Because if we did it by that number, some of
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: them would fly off the list.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at you. Club dread like a nise.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, it was more like a one. Very mild,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: amazingly mild. For the time and the subject matter. It
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: could have gotten a lot worse, way worse.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Especially when everyone having sex, Like the whole thing is
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: being about a virgin and fucking and there was there
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: could have been a lot of times have been like,
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  Speaker 1: oh you're you know, you're probably go or whatever, like
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  Speaker 1: and it's like at least they didn't go there, but like,
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  Speaker 1: you almost had it.
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  Speaker 2: But on the flip side, they probably didn't go there
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: because their version of representation, because everyone was white and
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: thin except for why one chubby white guy. There were
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  Speaker 2: there were some background characters, and I mean background, like
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have speaking lines. They were just in a
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  Speaker 2: group of people who weren't white. And there were definitely
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: no gay people in the film. Like this film was
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  Speaker 2: white like a loaf of bread. Yeah, so uh, straight
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  Speaker 2: as a board, like this was a very uh white
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  Speaker 2: hetero film.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that didn't mean it was super fun and camp
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: being chaotic. But you're like, what town is this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't expect that much camp for a two
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  Speaker 1: thousands movie. Uh, and I just you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Get the camp right away, by the way, but it's
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  Speaker 3: worth the way, so worth it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. What would you rate it or what
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: did you rate it?
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  Speaker 3: Like three? Three and a half?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll just I'll stick with the four of them.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: I was almost gonna get I was. I was thinking
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: four and a half just because I just loved Get.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: I'll give it a four.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would have given it higher had they
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: not gotten that very confusing moral gray. What do we
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: how do you've had? How are you supposed to feel
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: about dad?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so then I'll tell you. Yeah, So, because I
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: wanted to give it a four or five, I'll just
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: take that half away for that exact thing that you
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: just said. Yeah, so four stars for me. Let me
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: run through this trivia real quick in the tag lines,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: because oh these taglines are oh so fun. Lose your
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: innocence or lose your life. Innocence has never been deadlier.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: At Vergion High, it's put out or die. If you
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: haven't had it, you've had it. What would you give
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: to live? And get laid or die? Yes trivia. Due
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: to ongoing censorship issues with the MPAA, the film was
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: never given a theatrical release in the United States and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: was released as a TV movie on the USA Network.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: As a result, Cherry Falls is the most expensive television
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: movie ever produced, with a budget of fourteen million dollars.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: The film was written by Ken Seldon as a satire
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: with plenty of comedic elements, but director Jeoffrey or Jeffrey
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Wright viewed it far more serious. Wright kept much of
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: the satire but also increased the horror, removing much of
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: the comedy from salt script. Yeah, but I would have
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: loved to see more funny stuff. One of the very
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: few horror movies where the credits run backwards top to bottom,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: not the usual bottom to top. David Lynch was offered
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: the script to direct, and while he said he liked it,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: he turned it down as he was doing Mault Holland Drive.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Would have loved to see a fucking Lynch version of
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: this though, Holy shit. And then two goofs Sheriff bent
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Markin gets to call it three thirteen in the am
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: regarding the murder of the two high school students, but
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: when he gets there, it is clearly daytime, and three
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: nights in a row there is a full moon, which
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: is literally impossible because every night they show a shot
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: of the full moon for three nights. Rated five to
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: two out of ten on IMDb, two point nine out
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: of five on Letterbox. You gave it a three to five.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I gave it a four. I fucking loved it. One
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: of my new favorite movies.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was such a fun, random fine
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: and sometimes that shit doesn't work out, so that was
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: nice that it worked out.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: It worked and I liked it. It was the last
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: slasher and it was the slasheriest slasher we've done this month,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: so that caps it off for Slash Tober. I'm very
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: excited for next year when we're gonna have monthly themes
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: throughout the entire year. Of course, Slashtober we'll be back
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: for that as well. So yes, that is Cherry Falls.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to buy it or you're gonna have
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: that AMC to watch it. It is very hard to
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: find otherwise. Check us out on Facebook at fright Maares
• 1:22:12
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• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: are at Twitter, Frightmares Underscore Pod. I am Doctor Procter
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: on Letterboxed and you.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: Are Watson LMP ninety.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna go see Pray for the Devil this weekend.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Super excited. We'll report back on that next week. I
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: fucking don't know what we're doing next week. It's me
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: and Spencer, but we have to pick a movie because
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: me and Spencer we're supposed to do this episode.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: But gonna have a happy Halloween perhaps, Yeah what, I'm
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: gonna have a happy Halloween?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because Halloween today. Oh yeah, Happy Halloween everybody. Yeah yeah,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: by the time this comes out, Halloween will be in
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: three days. So happy Halloween. Do spooky things, get candy,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: scare the neighborhood children and uh yeah yeah, yeah, we'll
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: see you next week, but yeah, I don't know we had.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Me and Spencer still have to pick a movie because,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: like I said, he was supposed to do this but
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: never got his movie and he couldn't find it anywhere.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: So thank you for filling in, Gabby. Me and Spencer
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: will be back next week doing TBD and until then,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: stay tuned and stay spooky.