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How Did Ohio State's Loss Impact Their Possible Path To A National Title? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, October eighteenth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, tom Or. The Nebraska game is in eight days,
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  Speaker 1: the game against Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: In forty three days.
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  Speaker 1: We have been doing a sort of recurring series throughout
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  Speaker 1: the year to let you guys know what to expect
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  Speaker 1: from the twelve team college football Playoff. Obviously a very
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  Speaker 1: different format, a very different meaning for what these games
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  Speaker 1: mean throughout the course of season. We haven't done one
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  Speaker 1: of these in a while. Now that we're halfway through
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  Speaker 1: the Ohis State regular season and with the Buckeyes just
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  Speaker 1: having lost a game, why did you give everyone a
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  Speaker 1: sense for what things look like right now? We're still
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks away from the first college Football Playoff rankings,
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  Speaker 1: but we're going to use the Associated Press rankings right now.
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  Speaker 1: Bucky's dropped in those following the loss to Oregon. So
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  Speaker 1: how cataclysmic was that loss?
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take a look at that today.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be doing that with our buddy Tony
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  Speaker 1: Gerderman at Buckeyehuddle dot com. Tony, as you well know,
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  Speaker 1: here is the top the top twelve in the in
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  Speaker 1: the field according to the AP rankings, number one Texas,
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  Speaker 1: not a surprise. Number two Oregon. If you project them
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  Speaker 1: to be the Big ten champion. Number three Miami currently
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  Speaker 1: the highest ranked ACC teams, that would make them the
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  Speaker 1: ACC champion. Number four Iowa State, that's a weird phrase.
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  Speaker 1: Currently the top ranked team in the Big twelve. And
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  Speaker 1: then you get into the at largest number five, Penn State,
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  Speaker 1: number six, Ohio State, number seven, Georgia, number eight, Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: number nine, LSU, number ten, Clemson, number eleven, Tennessee, and
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  Speaker 1: number twelve Boise State. BYU just missed it, Notre Dame
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  Speaker 1: just missed it. So the field is mostly Big ten,
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  Speaker 1: mostly SEC as you probably expected, two ACC schools, one
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve school, and one Mountain West school. So Tony,
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  Speaker 1: I guess the first Let's look at the first round,
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  Speaker 1: number twelve, Boise State at number five, Penn State, number eleven,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee at number six, Ohio State number ten, clubs In
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  Speaker 1: at number seven, Georgia at number nine, LSU at number eight, Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: I think my.
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  Speaker 1: First question is for a team that just lost and
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  Speaker 1: had everyone freaking out out, that doesn't seem like that
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  Speaker 1: terrible of a draw for the Buckeyes.
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  Speaker 3: No, definitely not, but It's certainly a draw that would
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  Speaker 3: test the defense. Again, but you get a game at
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  Speaker 3: home against an opponent you'd be favored over, there are
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  Speaker 3: certainly worst draws as you look throughout this thing. So
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  Speaker 3: I think it would be a heck of a game.
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  Speaker 3: We hear so many times Buckeye fans are talking about
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  Speaker 3: let's bring the SEC to Columbus into Ohio Stadium in
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  Speaker 3: the winter. Well, I believe the game would take place
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  Speaker 3: on about the first day of winter. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, December twenty first, which is traditionally the first day
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  Speaker 1: of winter. So yeah, that would be a day when
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  Speaker 1: you know, assuming that's probably not going to be the
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  Speaker 1: first game of the day, that's probably gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: little later on in the day, at least a late
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  Speaker 1: afternoon game. Sun's going to be setting pretty early. Sun
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  Speaker 1: sets what what five o'clock or so on the winter solstice,
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  Speaker 1: which is that day. It'll be the shortest day of
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  Speaker 1: the year in Columbus, and so the sun will be
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  Speaker 1: setting pretty early. It'll be getting pretty brisk probably around then.
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  Speaker 1: Looked at the long range forecast yet, but if it is,
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  Speaker 1: it will potentially be chilly. One thing I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: about though, with this, there's been a lot of talk,
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  Speaker 1: you know, would you rather be the number five seed
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  Speaker 1: or the number two seed or the number you know,
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  Speaker 1: is there an advantage to being the number five seed?
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  Speaker 1: And then you're potentially playing Boise State in the first round,
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe you get Iowa State in the second round,
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  Speaker 1: and that's not too bad of a draw. One thing
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about is what you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be is the team that loses the Big Ten Championship game,
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  Speaker 1: because then you have to play a game the first
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  Speaker 1: weekend of October or of December, and then you have
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  Speaker 1: to play another game two weeks later, and then you
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  Speaker 1: have to play three games after that to win the
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  Speaker 1: national championship. If you miss the Big Ten Championship game
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  Speaker 1: and you end up as the sixth seed and you
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  Speaker 1: play an eleven seed and then the three seed, that's
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  Speaker 1: not terrible. If you win the Big Ten Championship you
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  Speaker 1: get a bye in the first round, that's not terrible.
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  Speaker 1: If you lose the Big Ten Championship and then you
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  Speaker 1: have to play the first round, that seems like that
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  Speaker 1: might be kind of the worst of both worlds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and how often have we seen it in the
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  Speaker 3: March Madness Tournament men's basketball, where you lose early in
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  Speaker 3: the conference championship tournament and it doesn't really hurt you
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  Speaker 3: because you've got rest. What you don't want to do,
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  Speaker 3: as you said, just expend all that energy and then
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  Speaker 3: have to play right after it, and not only do
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  Speaker 3: you have to play, but you've got to regroup. It's
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  Speaker 3: a harder road, it's a longer road for that. But
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  Speaker 3: I guess that's also why there is still an importance
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  Speaker 3: placed on conference championship games. Hear people talk about the
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  Speaker 3: the lack of importance of the regular season, and yet
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  Speaker 3: it's still very very exciting to hear they talk about, well,
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  Speaker 3: everybody makes it now, so the conference championship game isn't
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  Speaker 3: as important. I think you just detailed why it is
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  Speaker 3: still very very important and will continue to be so.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, so now you get we're through the first
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  Speaker 1: round number twelve pens Boise State and pen number five
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  Speaker 1: Penn State. The winner of that will play Iowa State
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  Speaker 1: in the Fiesta Bowl. That will be the New Year's
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  Speaker 1: Eve game, and then the next day the winner at
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  Speaker 1: New Year's Day, the winner of number eleven Tennessee at
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  Speaker 1: number six Ohio State, Well they will play Miami in
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  Speaker 1: the Peach Bowl on New Year's Day. Then the winner
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  Speaker 1: of Clemson and Georgia would play Oregon in the Rose Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Would be probably a pretty entertaining game.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally LSU and Alabama, the winner of that
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  Speaker 1: would play Texas in the Sugar Bowl. I look at that, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: and if Ohio State has to play Tennessee and then
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  Speaker 1: has to play Miami, and that's where they are right now,
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  Speaker 1: those are two games where you would expect the Buckeyes
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  Speaker 1: to be favored, and maybe favored by a touchdown or so.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's lots of consternation about the conference champions
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  Speaker 1: getting an automatic bid or an automatic top four seed,
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  Speaker 1: But if you are the number six seed or the
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  Speaker 1: number five seed, that feels like that's working out okay
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at both sides of that bracket,
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  Speaker 3: I think you'll take either one of those. I just
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  Speaker 3: wonder what happens. How does that five or six seed
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  Speaker 3: get decided, and is it decided by somebody that isn't
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  Speaker 3: in the conference championship game? And then the loser of
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  Speaker 3: the conference championship game drops below that, which I still
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  Speaker 3: don't think is necessarily a fair situation to benefit from
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  Speaker 3: not being in the conference championship game and being punished
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  Speaker 3: for being in the conference championship game. So I'll be
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  Speaker 3: fascinated to see how all of that works out. But
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  Speaker 3: certainly five and six don't look all that daunting because
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  Speaker 3: of what you have with the automatic qualifiers. It still
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  Speaker 3: gives hopes to the teams that don't win their conference,
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  Speaker 3: and not just hopes, but it gives them confidence that
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  Speaker 3: you look at your bracket, you think the road doesn't
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  Speaker 3: look too bad.
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  Speaker 1: No, the road definitely doesn't look too bad. And even
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  Speaker 1: Oregon in the Rose Bowl, whoever the big Den champion
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  Speaker 1: is in the Rose Bowl, playing the winner of Clemson
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  Speaker 1: and Georgia. That's a team that's gonna have gotten pretty
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  Speaker 1: beat up ten days eleven days before that game. So
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  Speaker 1: there certainly is an advantage that we'll see. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: if this is like the baseball playoffs, where a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of the teams that get the first round bys end
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  Speaker 1: up coming in kind of rusty. I don't think football
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  Speaker 1: is gonna work quite the same, but we'll see. We're
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  Speaker 1: all going to experience this together for the first time
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  Speaker 1: this year. Once you get through those those quarterfinal games.
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  Speaker 1: We are onto the semi finals Cotton Bowl and Orange
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  Speaker 1: Bowl January ninth and tenth, so it'll be the Texas
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  Speaker 1: slash LSU slash Alabama winner. Let's just say it's Texas
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  Speaker 1: taking on Penn State or Iowa State or Boise State.
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  Speaker 1: So that sounds to me tony like Bama against Penn
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  Speaker 1: State in the Cotton Bowl. And then Oregon slash Clemson
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  Speaker 1: slash Georgia versus Miami slash Ohio State slash Tennessee in
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  Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl. You know, but let's just we'll just
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  Speaker 1: this is an audience of Ohio State fans. Let's say
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  Speaker 1: it's Buckeyes versus Oregon slash Clemson slash Georgia. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's an unwinnable game in the semi finals, even
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  Speaker 1: with people being a little bit down on the Bluckeyes
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't either, And I'll just throw this out
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  Speaker 3: there real quick. You had you had Bama advancing, and
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  Speaker 3: I think you met Texas just.
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  Speaker 1: For the uh, yes, sorry, I meant, I meant I
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  Speaker 1: met Texas. Yes, Texas Texas slash LSU slash Alabama. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: probably probably Texas versus Penn State right now that you know,
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  Speaker 1: being being number six, that's not a terrible spot to
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  Speaker 1: be in right now. I mean looking at that, looking
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  Speaker 1: at that group, you're still avoiding number one, uh, the
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  Speaker 1: number one seed potentially Texas this year.
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  Speaker 2: Number six. The more I look at that, the more
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, boy, that is not a bad spot to
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  Speaker 2: be in.
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  Speaker 3: No, and it's it's a spot where state would have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of confidence. I think the only Georgia is
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  Speaker 3: this massive thing that is larger than it actually is
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  Speaker 3: in terms of people's minds, like, oh gosh, Georgia, how
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  Speaker 3: can you beat Georgia. I think Georgia is showing the
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  Speaker 3: season that they can be beaten. I think Penn State
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  Speaker 3: take this in an instant though. Boise State and Iowa State, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: sign them up. I'll be there may be some switching
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  Speaker 3: of sides by this time next week on who gets
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  Speaker 3: that seed. But you look at either of those spots
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  Speaker 3: and you have to feel pretty good about where you
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  Speaker 3: end up. You're eventually going to play somebody that you
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  Speaker 3: don't want to play. You know, it's like, oh, you're
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  Speaker 3: just putting off the inevitable. But to get that far
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  Speaker 3: and then if it just comes down to you know what,
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  Speaker 3: we knew we were going to play Texas at some point,
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  Speaker 3: or we knew we're going to play Georgia at some point.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it is what it is. But those are
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  Speaker 3: not daunting roads. For as good as all of these
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  Speaker 3: teams are and can be, nothing there is like, well,
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  Speaker 3: we're only going to make it this far. Like you
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  Speaker 3: can look at a March Madness tournament and be like, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's where our road ends. We know exactly where it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be. I don't think you can look at
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  Speaker 3: this and say, well, that's where it ends.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think you can say that. For Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I can look at Penn State's road
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  Speaker 1: and go boy to college football wins. I bet they'll
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  Speaker 1: be very happy with that. I hope they don't want
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  Speaker 1: three because they're probably not going to get three, but
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  Speaker 1: two absolutely that looks doable. There After that, yes, it
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  Speaker 1: does get a little more. The road gets a little
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  Speaker 1: potentially more daunting there for the Buckeyes having to play
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  Speaker 1: Texas slash Alabama slash LSU slash Penn State. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: even you know, if it is the if it is
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  Speaker 1: the Texas Longhorns, you don't have to play the Georgia
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  Speaker 1: Bulldogs in Georgia, and you don't have to play the
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  Speaker 1: Texas long Horns in Texas. So you know, there were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these brackets we did over the summer
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  Speaker 1: where it was, OHI, a state might have to play
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  Speaker 1: Texas and the Cotton Bowl and then Georgia in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: for the national Championship. You avoid that in this scenario,
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  Speaker 1: which feels like a win, and you know if you
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  Speaker 1: can go through and the hardest team you're going to
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  Speaker 1: potentially have to play, the highest ranked team you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to play is the one you just lost to
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  Speaker 1: by one point on their home field. I think I
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  Speaker 1: think the Buckeyes would probably take their chances with that,
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  Speaker 1: whether it is the second or third time they get
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  Speaker 1: a crack at the Oregon Ducks this year. So just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to run through that little exercise again. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: a week, who knows. We'll see how much turmoil there
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  Speaker 1: is at the top of the polls. There's some big
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