Latest / Chuck in the Morning / Chuck & Buck 2-10 Hour 4: Walker's future in Seattle, The Ol Judge and one last thing!
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- 0:12Speaker 1: It's not o'clock hour here on this Tuesday morning. Man,
- 0:16Speaker 1: look at it. I can see it just through the
- 0:18Speaker 1: crack outside our door. Here, beautiful day. It's a crack
- 0:24Speaker 1: outside the door. It's beautiful. Yeah, yeah, that's where that's
- 0:27Speaker 1: where I was at. Yeah, some of that crack, Now
- 0:30Speaker 1: that you mentioned it, you seem to go out there
- 0:31Speaker 1: a lot.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Yeah, every break gives me energy.
- 0:37Speaker 1: But no, I was looking more at the beautiful sunshiny
- 0:40Speaker 1: day that we got out there on the water. Looks gorgeous.
- 0:44Speaker 1: You know what it looks like looks like championship weather,
- 0:47Speaker 1: But it looks like it looks like it's like the
- 0:49Speaker 1: kind of weather. It looks like the kind of weather
- 0:51Speaker 1: that champions It's like a champion in boy.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Yeah, championship and spring both are in the air.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Can just let it waft?
- 1:02Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:02Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, pretty sure. We were supposed to get
- 1:05Speaker 1: rain and mold for the next couple of days and uh,
- 1:08Speaker 1: instead you win a super Bowl and God's like, that's
- 1:11Speaker 1: not championship weather. Here you go, here, you go.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Phil doesn't know jet.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Yeah that's a fact. Well, everything just looks a little brighter,
- 1:21Speaker 1: a little prettier. These tastes can't tell you why. We
- 1:24Speaker 1: do have one thousand dollars in powerplay cash. Everybody's probably
- 1:27Speaker 1: gonna win it.
- 1:28Speaker 3: That's probably why.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's just the mood we're in. P A
- 1:32Speaker 1: y is your keyword. Go ahead and enter that at
- 1:35Speaker 1: ninety three three kJ r dot com. Uh yeah, championship
- 1:39Speaker 1: entry at ninety three three kJ r dot com on
- 1:42Speaker 1: a championship website. It's actually not very good, but three
- 1:47Speaker 1: kJ r dot com. As we start this uh nine
- 1:52Speaker 1: o'clock hour, Old Judge is gonna stop by. By the way,
- 1:55Speaker 1: we haven't chatted with Old Judge since he got back
- 1:58Speaker 1: from the super Bowl, so we'll chat with him coming
- 2:02Speaker 1: up a little later on in the show. And the
- 2:04Speaker 1: only thing that he said to me was just don't
- 2:06Speaker 1: make it all football.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. So I did actually get a picture
- 2:10Speaker 3: of the.
- 2:11Speaker 4: Old Judge as well, sent to me last week from
- 2:14Speaker 4: one of our listeners. I guess they must have snuck
- 2:17Speaker 4: into the courtroom to get a good photo. Oh, so
- 2:19Speaker 4: we'll share that.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Oh please do I don't know what you're talking.
- 2:22Speaker 4: About, Yeah, you don't. It's been a secret. ILL kept
- 2:25Speaker 4: it till today.
- 2:25Speaker 1: I can't wait, can't wait to see it. Well, let's
- 2:28Speaker 1: dive into this conversation about ken Walker. I intentionally tried
- 2:32Speaker 1: not to talk about it too much yesterday that felt like,
- 2:35Speaker 1: let's recap the game day, and even today we did.
- 2:39Speaker 1: I've mentioned it with our two experts, but we haven't
- 2:41Speaker 1: really discussed it as a show. But already people are
- 2:45Speaker 1: looking forward to the off season. No surprise there. And
- 2:49Speaker 1: ken Walker, with the way he finished this year super
- 2:52Speaker 1: Bowl MVP, for goodness sake, is he going to remain
- 2:55Speaker 1: a Seahawk or not. Greg Bell was with us earlier
- 2:59Speaker 1: today and I asked him how high of a priority
- 3:03Speaker 1: is it for the Seahawks to bring back the Super
- 3:05Speaker 1: Bowl MVP?
- 3:07Speaker 5: Well higher than it was a week ago. The Zach
- 3:10Speaker 5: Charboney injury situation changes this a little bit. Had they
- 3:14Speaker 5: had charbon A and I mean, let's put this, there
- 3:17Speaker 5: was a reason why they didn't offer Kenneth Walker contract already.
- 3:21Speaker 5: Zach Charboney was part of that reason. Now, Charboney's contract
- 3:23Speaker 5: ends after next year, but they had in the back
- 3:26Speaker 5: of their minds they could potentially give charbon Ay a
- 3:29Speaker 5: job if they didn't want to resign at Walker's rate,
- 3:33Speaker 5: Walker's rate has skyrocketed in the last three weeks because
- 3:36Speaker 5: of how he seized his opportunity. You talk about seizing
- 3:39Speaker 5: a chance, not too much more he could have done
- 3:44Speaker 5: than be the Super Bowl MVP and I have a
- 3:46Speaker 5: couple one hundred yard games. It just man perfect timing
- 3:51Speaker 5: for him. For him personally, I know he's got a
- 3:55Speaker 5: new agent, David Kimpton. The cold business of the NFL
- 3:59Speaker 5: is that one side of this is the Seahawks had
- 4:02Speaker 5: their chance. They could have resigned him all along, and
- 4:06Speaker 5: now there's six weeks until free agency begins. From an
- 4:09Speaker 5: agent's perspective, it would be a wise business decision to
- 4:13Speaker 5: test that market at this point. From the player's perspective,
- 4:16Speaker 5: I asked Walker again yesterday. I asked him if he
- 4:19Speaker 5: still wants to stay here, and he said, yes, absolutely.
- 4:21Speaker 5: That says the first choice would be to re sign
- 4:23Speaker 5: with the Seahawks. But he is wondering why this hasn't
- 4:26Speaker 5: even been approached yet. When I talked to him in
- 4:29Speaker 5: San Jose last week, I asked him again, have they
- 4:32Speaker 5: even come to you talking about a potential deal and
- 4:35Speaker 5: what it might look like and bringing up the subject
- 4:37Speaker 5: at all? And he said, not that I know of.
- 4:39Speaker 5: And those are the same words he gave me in
- 4:41Speaker 5: August when I asked that question. So, nothing he's done
- 4:45Speaker 5: this season, in a thousand yard season, a super Bowl MVP,
- 4:49Speaker 5: nothing that he's done has moved that needle to him.
- 4:53Speaker 5: So I can see why he would test the market,
- 4:56Speaker 5: even if he says he wants to come back. The
- 4:58Speaker 5: Seahawks probably thought and into the season, because of an
- 5:01Speaker 5: injury history, that he could maybe get they could give
- 5:03Speaker 5: him a one year deal a few million above thattrimentum.
- 5:07Speaker 5: I don't think there's any way they could do that now,
- 5:09Speaker 5: because he would get multiple years and more money on
- 5:13Speaker 5: the open market. I would almost certainly believe, Oh.
- 5:15Speaker 1: He's gonna get a lot of offers of multiple years
- 5:19Speaker 1: and lots of millions of dollars. He's he's a hot
- 5:23Speaker 1: name right now. And isn't it interesting before we start
- 5:26Speaker 1: talking about just you know, what kind of contract these
- 5:29Speaker 1: Seahawks might offer somebody else might offer. Isn't it interesting
- 5:33Speaker 1: that I asked both Hugh Millen and Mike Holmer and like,
- 5:37Speaker 1: why yesterday, why did he suddenly become the running back
- 5:41Speaker 1: we hoped to see for three and a half years
- 5:44Speaker 1: and really weren't seeing. Why did it happen at the
- 5:48Speaker 1: really perfect time. And they both said, without hesitation, because
- 5:53Speaker 1: Zach Sharbonau got hurt, Zach Schharbonague got out of his way,
- 5:57Speaker 1: you didn't really have a choice. You had to just
- 5:59Speaker 1: feed the running back. And both of them and they're
- 6:02Speaker 1: pretty smart football guys. I don't know if you've picked
- 6:04Speaker 1: up on that over the years. Both of them talked
- 6:07Speaker 1: about how a number one running back, you know, they
- 6:11Speaker 1: usually get better the more they're used, and Ken Walker
- 6:17Speaker 1: got used a lot in the playoffs, and lo and behold,
- 6:21Speaker 1: he produces the three best games maybe that he's ever
- 6:25Speaker 1: had as a Seahawk, and back to back to back games,
- 6:28Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, he's a hot name
- 6:30Speaker 1: in free agency, where I think about ten fifteen games ago,
- 6:36Speaker 1: I'm wondering, why does he never hit the hole where
- 6:39Speaker 1: it's designed to go. I was about as frustrated with
- 6:42Speaker 1: Walker as I've been in his three and a half years,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and I think it was just you're running out of
- 6:45Speaker 1: time to prove how great I think you are. I
- 6:49Speaker 1: think that's where my frustration started to set in with
- 6:52Speaker 1: him a little bit. And yet he showed us how
- 6:55Speaker 1: great he can be, just in the nick of time,
- 6:57Speaker 1: and maybe we would have won a super Bowl without him,
- 7:00Speaker 1: but I really don't want to replay the games. No, no, Yeah,
- 7:05Speaker 1: he was sensational in the playoffs, the best we've ever
- 7:08Speaker 1: seen him.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Yeah, you might have been able to win the super
- 7:11Speaker 2: Bowl without him going off and you're running for one
- 7:14Speaker 2: thirty five, you know, you don't know. I think that
- 7:17Speaker 2: the way that they called the offense was indicative of
- 7:21Speaker 2: with our defense playing the way it is and him
- 7:23Speaker 2: running the rock, we don't have to put the ball
- 7:25Speaker 2: at risk by throwing it up there and having something
- 7:28Speaker 2: crazy happen, you know, ball going the other direction. I mean,
- 7:31Speaker 2: I think he stepped up. I think because he didn't
- 7:35Speaker 2: have a choice, right, I mean, it's it's you now
- 7:38Speaker 2: no longer are going to be protected. I think that
- 7:41Speaker 2: to some degree, it's protecting him because he had missed
- 7:44Speaker 2: some time over the course of his first three years
- 7:46Speaker 2: as a pro. It's some injury stuff, and so you're like, hey,
- 7:49Speaker 2: we kind of need this guy to be healthy. We
- 7:51Speaker 2: want this guy to be healthy, and the best way
- 7:53Speaker 2: to do is if we have kind of a timeshare.
- 7:54Speaker 2: And then they think they like Zach Sherman. I think
- 7:56Speaker 2: they like the difference in the way that they run
- 8:00Speaker 2: is depending on your opponent. The game plans are going
- 8:03Speaker 2: to change, and he might be more effective in certain areas. Now,
- 8:07Speaker 2: I think that given a guy like ken Walker that
- 8:10Speaker 2: like let him kind of eat, especially if he's going
- 8:13Speaker 2: to be somebody that's going to be more in the
- 8:14Speaker 2: lavian bell where he wants to kind of be patient
- 8:18Speaker 2: in going towards the line to pick the spot, and
- 8:21Speaker 2: then that burst that he has is different.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's different.
- 8:25Speaker 2: He gets through there quick and in a hurry when
- 8:28Speaker 2: he sees something, So I think that, Yeah, there's a
- 8:31Speaker 2: lot of factors that played into it. And most certainly
- 8:33Speaker 2: I think the run game stepped up after Charboney got hurt.
- 8:36Speaker 2: And that's not a knock against Sharbony as much as
- 8:38Speaker 2: it is your lead back got all the carries, so
- 8:41Speaker 2: instead of having twelve or thirteen carries, he got twenty seven,
- 8:45Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he can rack up those yards.
- 8:48Speaker 2: So it's it's going to be interesting to see if
- 8:51Speaker 2: he wants to come back, he could do it. I
- 8:53Speaker 2: don't know for sure. I think the Seahawks should be
- 8:56Speaker 2: up there with offering what it is it's going to
- 8:58Speaker 2: be and yet it's he wasn't making hardly anything so
- 9:02Speaker 2: far in his first four years in the league.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Yeah he was second round pick.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it's you know, he's made eight
- 9:08Speaker 2: million bucks. He's not poor, but he was this year
- 9:10Speaker 2: was his highest paid and he was making not even
- 9:12Speaker 2: two million dollars basically, And so yeah, he's going to
- 9:15Speaker 2: be getting to quite the pay raise. And we'll see
- 9:17Speaker 2: if the Seahawks are thinking he's worth it at this point.
- 9:19Speaker 2: I would think they should well.
- 9:20Speaker 4: And especially because you still have sharbon Ay too, so
- 9:23Speaker 4: you I mean, I would imagine they would kind of
- 9:27Speaker 4: go through the whole season similar to how they did
- 9:29Speaker 4: once Sharbone's healed from his injury, you know, with this
- 9:33Speaker 4: with them splitting carries again, because that's the one been
- 9:35Speaker 4: that's still the one knock on him, right, is his
- 9:37Speaker 4: durability for an entire season. So is the only question then,
- 9:41Speaker 4: is is it worth it to pay him more if
- 9:42Speaker 4: you still have to share the carries with him for
- 9:45Speaker 4: the majority of the regular season.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Well, I would think their eyes are open to no,
- 9:50Speaker 1: that guy needs the ball more often and maybe maybe
- 9:54Speaker 1: he figured out that patient running that Bucky's talked about
- 9:58Speaker 1: maybe that's his style. Maybe he stumbled upon the style
- 10:04Speaker 1: just in time to dominate in the playoffs. Thank you
- 10:08Speaker 1: for that then, yeah, yeah, certainly. But you know, Charles
- 10:13Speaker 1: Davis weighed in on this. We had him at the
- 10:15Speaker 1: beginning of the show. He's with NFL on CBS and
- 10:18Speaker 1: also the NFL network. He had an interesting thought on this,
- 10:23Speaker 1: which frankly I kind of agree with. Here's Charles.
- 10:25Speaker 6: I think John Schneider is going to make sure Ken
- 10:28Speaker 6: Walker and as people know that they value him, but
- 10:31Speaker 6: he's going to have a number and I don't think
- 10:32Speaker 6: John Schneider is going to change that number.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I think this is what it's going to be.
- 10:37Speaker 6: And I think we're all probably at the stage of
- 10:41Speaker 6: it is really tired to talk about. Well, you know,
- 10:44Speaker 6: running back, you know the devalued position. We know how
- 10:47Speaker 6: important it is the teams that make big runs. The
- 10:50Speaker 6: running back is important. Even on teams that didn't have
- 10:53Speaker 6: thousand yard runners.
- 10:55Speaker 1: When you got to the playoffs.
- 10:56Speaker 6: The running game was vital. It meant something.
- 10:59Speaker 1: So we know that the runners are valuable.
- 11:01Speaker 6: Well, we also know that this world, as my grandfather
- 11:06Speaker 6: used to say, it's lousy with runners, which means there's
- 11:09Speaker 6: a whole lot of them out there, right, So no.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Offense to kid Walker.
- 11:14Speaker 5: Love what he's.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Done, love all of that.
- 11:16Speaker 3: I don't know they're going to.
- 11:17Speaker 6: Break the bank, even for a Super Bowl MVP.
- 11:21Speaker 1: I don't think he will here. I just I think
- 11:24Speaker 1: the Seahawks want to keep him. I think they will
- 11:27Speaker 1: make a strong offer. But the truth of the matter
- 11:30Speaker 1: is there are desperate teams out there with cap space,
- 11:35Speaker 1: and the Seahawks have cap space, but they also aren't
- 11:39Speaker 1: a desperate team. I guarantee you the Seahawks believe they
- 11:43Speaker 1: can win a Super Bowl without ken Walker next year,
- 11:46Speaker 1: and that's an entire offseason to find a replacement, whether
- 11:49Speaker 1: that's a free agent or somebody that you draft. I mean,
- 11:52Speaker 1: you could have with a thirty second pick, your favorite
- 11:56Speaker 1: running back in the draft not named Jeremiah Love. He's
- 12:00Speaker 1: going to go in the top ten. You would have
- 12:02Speaker 1: your pick of the litter, probably at number thirty two,
- 12:04Speaker 1: if you wanted to go that high. I brought that
- 12:06Speaker 1: up to Charles and he said, I don't think you
- 12:07Speaker 1: need to even go that high. You can probably wait
- 12:09Speaker 1: a little longer because the rest of these running backs
- 12:11Speaker 1: probably get lumped together from rounds two and three. But
- 12:17Speaker 1: I don't think when you are in the great position
- 12:21Speaker 1: that the Seahawks are in World Champs, third youngest team
- 12:24Speaker 1: in the National Football League, fourth to fifth most cap
- 12:27Speaker 1: space in the National Football League, you're not desperate. And
- 12:31Speaker 1: if desperate teams with more cap space than you offer
- 12:36Speaker 1: him a salary, I prom I can almost promise you.
- 12:39Speaker 1: John Schneider is not gonna crawl over broken glass to
- 12:43Speaker 1: pay what some team out there might be willing to
- 12:46Speaker 1: pay ken Walker. He's gonna make a good, solid offer
- 12:49Speaker 1: to keep him because I think they want to keep him.
- 12:51Speaker 1: And then he's gonna say, you can either go play
- 12:53Speaker 1: for the Titans for two million dollars more a year
- 12:56Speaker 1: or whatever, or you can stay with us really good salary,
- 13:01Speaker 1: maybe take a little bit of a pay cut like
- 13:03Speaker 1: Sam Darnold was willing to, and we can just keep
- 13:07Speaker 1: on winning. It's really going to be up to you.
- 13:10Speaker 1: But my guess is that there's gonna be a team
- 13:12Speaker 1: out there, whether it's the Jets or the who have
- 13:15Speaker 1: eighty million in cap space or the Titans who have
- 13:17Speaker 1: over one hundred million in cap space and need a
- 13:20Speaker 1: running back, are gonna make him such a big offer
- 13:23Speaker 1: that there's no way, John's gonna go there to meet it.
- 13:26Speaker 1: That's my that's my guess here on February tenth, two
- 13:30Speaker 1: years after the season ends, that would be my guess
- 13:33Speaker 1: as well.
- 13:34Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think three games, even as well
- 13:36Speaker 2: as he ran, and I don't think three games changes
- 13:39Speaker 2: the opinion that they had for three years before the
- 13:42Speaker 2: season started. They didn't do the fifth year, right, Yeah,
- 13:47Speaker 2: they didn't do that. They didn't pick up a fifth year. No,
- 13:49Speaker 2: you can't a fresh rounder. So yeah, they haven't re
- 13:52Speaker 2: signed him back at this point. I think coming off
- 13:55Speaker 2: of last season. Now, that was the season where they
- 13:58Speaker 2: got rid of Ryan grebbter or one year. So I
- 14:01Speaker 2: think as a as an organization they're like that that
- 14:03Speaker 2: didn't really work, and so you discount some of the
- 14:06Speaker 2: down years or down statistics for him there a little bit,
- 14:10Speaker 2: but he also was hurt. Yeah, I think that they
- 14:14Speaker 2: maybe are like, oh man, he's finally coming into his own.
- 14:17Speaker 2: But yeah, if if he's going to yeah, if he's
- 14:21Speaker 2: going to ask, if he's going to ask for that,
- 14:24Speaker 2: if he wants to take the top dollar, which I
- 14:25Speaker 2: wouldn't fault him if he does. Playing running back, you
- 14:28Speaker 2: probably need every million you can possibly get because even
- 14:31Speaker 2: if he signed some four year, forty million dollar contract,
- 14:35Speaker 2: half of that's not going to be guaranteed, probably because
- 14:38Speaker 2: of the fact that the position he plays is so
- 14:41Speaker 2: hard on your durability. So yeah, it's just but it's
- 14:44Speaker 2: a It's one that I don't think you have to
- 14:46Speaker 2: be desperate to be like boy, I'd feel a whole
- 14:48Speaker 2: hell of a lot better if he agrees to, you know,
- 14:51Speaker 2: an eight million dollar a year, you get a big
- 14:53Speaker 2: bonus or a big, big chunk of this. We're gonna
- 14:55Speaker 2: make sure that, you know, two or three years off,
- 14:57Speaker 2: it's guaranteed. Whatever I would if I'm a Seahawks fan,
- 15:01Speaker 2: I would be hopeful that they do get him to
- 15:03Speaker 2: come back, even though there's going to be a number
- 15:05Speaker 2: that John Schnyder is gonna put on it, and he's
- 15:07Speaker 2: not going to go over because I don't think Sharmon
- 15:10Speaker 2: is going to be back at the beginning of the year.
- 15:12Speaker 2: And so you do have free agency and you do
- 15:14Speaker 2: have a draft where you can address it, but well,
- 15:16Speaker 2: you don't want to be going through the first.
- 15:18Speaker 1: I double five six, I would double that salary. Double
- 15:21Speaker 1: what salary eight million a year? Yeah, I think he's
- 15:26Speaker 1: going to get fifteen to twenty million a year.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm going off for like spow Track And
- 15:33Speaker 2: I mean James Cook is making eleven and a half
- 15:35Speaker 2: million dollars a year, right, but they signed about the
- 15:37Speaker 2: same side same time.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Yeah, the cap went up, it's going up. I mean,
- 15:42Speaker 1: maybe I'm a little too aggressive with it, but I
- 15:45Speaker 1: mean Jonathan Taylor's making fourteen million, Derreck Henry's Megan fifteen million.
- 15:51Speaker 1: You know, I'd put it north of twelve. Maybe I
- 15:54Speaker 1: got a little aggressive, but I'd put it north of twelve.
- 15:56Speaker 1: And I don't know if the Seahawks are going to
- 15:59Speaker 1: do that.
- 16:00Speaker 3: Twelve seems like an appropriate number.
- 16:03Speaker 1: In more ways than yes.
- 16:05Speaker 4: But I do think it would be interesting to be
- 16:07Speaker 4: in those conversations because I do wonder if part of
- 16:10Speaker 4: the negotiation is the is the fact that you know,
- 16:14Speaker 4: if you stay here, yeah, we might not be able
- 16:16Speaker 4: to pay you the you know, four more million that
- 16:20Speaker 4: you might get somewhere else, but we're going to keep
- 16:22Speaker 4: you healthier. And you know you're going to be splitting
- 16:24Speaker 4: these carries for a lot of the seasons so that
- 16:26Speaker 4: your body isn't taking the toll that it was one
- 16:28Speaker 4: of these other people.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Even though you just saw that he might be better
- 16:32Speaker 1: not being splitting carries.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was still they were still pretty
- 16:35Speaker 3: good when they were doing it, though.
- 16:36Speaker 4: I'm just wondering if that would take if you know
- 16:38Speaker 4: his longevity and his health, would the idea that he
- 16:42Speaker 4: wouldn't be put in and expected to carry the ball
- 16:45Speaker 4: every single time like he would probably be if someone's
- 16:48Speaker 4: paying him fifteen million dollars.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, Uh, it doesn't do any
- 16:52Speaker 1: favors to those that hate load management. Yeah, because there
- 16:55Speaker 1: might be an argument here that he was that great
- 16:58Speaker 1: at the end of the year because of the way
- 17:00Speaker 1: that he was handled. Maybe he's not as healthy in
- 17:03Speaker 1: a spry at the end of the season if he
- 17:05Speaker 1: was getting.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Chances are if he had, if he had that lion's
- 17:12Speaker 2: share of the carries, chances are he's not as healthy.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:15Speaker 4: So that's what I'm wondering to get those conversations they
- 17:18Speaker 4: bring this up, like, hey, look, this is what we did,
- 17:20Speaker 4: this is why you had. You know, you were so healthy,
- 17:22Speaker 4: you were able to have a great playoff, and now
- 17:26Speaker 4: you're ending the season still healthy. So stay here. We
- 17:29Speaker 4: might only be able to pay you twelve million.
- 17:32Speaker 1: They're going to want to keep him, Yeah, And I
- 17:33Speaker 1: think they're gonna give him a what they believe is
- 17:36Speaker 1: fair market value to keep him. And they're really going
- 17:39Speaker 1: to sell him on do you really want to leave
- 17:42Speaker 1: this just for the highest bid? Well, we've got going here.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I mean, we're not like undervaluing you. But there's gonna
- 17:50Speaker 1: be a team out there that is going to overvalue him.
- 17:53Speaker 1: He's got a big name, and for fan bases out
- 17:56Speaker 1: there that are right now, he's a household name. Right now.
- 17:58Speaker 1: People just watched him and every NFL city win the
- 18:01Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP, and so you can sell that in Nashville,
- 18:06Speaker 1: Tennessee to a fan base that had to deal with
- 18:10Speaker 1: Tony Pollard and you know ty J Spears all season long,
- 18:15Speaker 1: and you got an opportunity to say, well, we've just
- 18:17Speaker 1: replaced that with the Super Bowl MVP, and we have
- 18:20Speaker 1: one hundred and five million dollars of cap space to
- 18:23Speaker 1: work with versus the Seahawks seventy two. We're going to
- 18:26Speaker 1: be able to give him an offer that the Seahawks
- 18:28Speaker 1: aren't going to match. My guess is that's kind of
- 18:31Speaker 1: what the offseason is going to be like with Ken Walker,
- 18:34Speaker 1: and if that happens, I trust that John's got the
- 18:38Speaker 1: right value on him, is going to make the right
- 18:40Speaker 1: decision on this. And keep in mind, just because that
- 18:44Speaker 1: we don't have a ton of guys hitting free agency,
- 18:47Speaker 1: I think Kobe Bryants won and Rashid Shaheed and a
- 18:50Speaker 1: couple of others, we also have gonna make JSN and
- 18:53Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon very rich men very soon. Now they are
- 18:58Speaker 1: going to be entering that far. Obviously, you pick up
- 19:02Speaker 1: the fifth year option if you can. But I think
- 19:04Speaker 1: they're going to spend this. I think there's a chance
- 19:06Speaker 1: they're gonna spend this offseason trying to figure out long
- 19:09Speaker 1: term salaries to keep those guys happy and then Seahawk uniforms.
- 19:13Speaker 1: And I promise you they value those two guys a
- 19:15Speaker 1: lot more than a running back.
- 19:17Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, it makes sense. You those are
- 19:20Speaker 2: going to be more difficult to find for sure. And
- 19:23Speaker 2: yet boy so just have the run that he just
- 19:26Speaker 2: had and average over one hundred yards through the playoffs
- 19:28Speaker 2: and then them let him walk.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Well, let him walk. Like I said, I think they're
- 19:33Speaker 1: going to try to keep him. But I just think
- 19:35Speaker 1: somebody out there is going to give them him an
- 19:37Speaker 1: offer that they're not willing to go to, and I
- 19:39Speaker 1: think they're right not to. I mean, if he ends
- 19:41Speaker 1: up at fifteen sixteen million dollars. Sorry, Ken, been nice
- 19:45Speaker 1: knowing you. Thanks for the memories. Good luck with the Titans.
- 19:48Speaker 1: I hear Nashville's got great chicken yep. I agree.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going up there. I don't think he's
- 19:53Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. I don't think he's Derrick Henry. I'm not
- 19:55Speaker 2: paying him what those guys are getting paid. I'll pay
- 19:58Speaker 2: him what he's earned. So, which is like a Montgomery,
- 20:02Speaker 2: you've been a timeshare guy, and when you haven't been
- 20:05Speaker 2: a timeshare guy, you've been hurt. So here's nine or
- 20:07Speaker 2: ten million dollars. You want to take it, fine, You're right.
- 20:09Speaker 2: A team that's more desperate will probably pay more. I'm
- 20:12Speaker 2: agreeing with you. I'm just saying, at the end of it,
- 20:15Speaker 2: you're looking at a recovering Jack, Zach, Sharbonnay and a
- 20:18Speaker 2: whole Onny right now, and you're like, Okay, we gotta
- 20:21Speaker 2: find something to go back and try to, you know,
- 20:23Speaker 2: go back, go back to back on this thing.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Well sure, yeah, but you got all free agency
- 20:27Speaker 1: in the draft to assess it and running backs. I know,
- 20:32Speaker 1: even though they're not a dime a dozen, there are
- 20:34Speaker 1: a lot of them out there that can get the
- 20:36Speaker 1: job done. All right, the old Judge stops by next
- 20:38Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Welcome to the
- 20:41Speaker 1: Championship courtroom people. Oh wow, you've noticed the bunting.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Yeah, shippy, this is.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Like champ super Bowl, Championship bunting and spring training bunting
- 20:51Speaker 2: all wrapped into one.
- 20:53Speaker 1: I hear that they're going to raise the championship banner.
- 20:56Speaker 1: We get to keep it here in the courtroom. Yeah, yeah,
- 20:58Speaker 1: of course, yeah yeah, not at lumen.
- 21:01Speaker 3: But here makes more sense in here, I agree.
- 21:03Speaker 2: They usually nice spot for it. Yeah, right behind the
- 21:06Speaker 2: bench here. And then they have a picture. They'll take
- 21:09Speaker 2: a picture of the banner in the courtroom and hang
- 21:12Speaker 2: that at luhman.
- 21:14Speaker 1: I love that idea.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 21:16Speaker 1: All right, Well, the old judge is here and he
- 21:19Speaker 1: just said, hey, look, I know you're gonna ask me
- 21:22Speaker 1: a football question, maybe even two. Can we not talk
- 21:25Speaker 1: all football in the old judge courtroom today?
- 21:29Speaker 3: That's fair?
- 21:30Speaker 1: I think that is fair. So let's draw out a
- 21:32Speaker 1: few topics. Ashley and I will discuss them. When the
- 21:34Speaker 1: old judge is hurt enough.
- 21:36Speaker 2: He will bang his gavel, Yes, gavel, cavel, cavey, I
- 21:39Speaker 2: forgot my gavel, and then he.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Will weigh in, and whatever the old judge says, it
- 21:45Speaker 1: goes into permanent record here in these here parts. All right,
- 21:50Speaker 1: let's get things started, and I will ask a football
- 21:52Speaker 1: question to get it started. All right, the Seahawks defense
- 21:56Speaker 1: was the star on Sunday, but the kicking game just
- 22:00Speaker 1: isn't getting enough love the last two days.
- 22:03Speaker 4: Well, I would agree the kicking game did not get
- 22:06Speaker 4: enough love, But I think that that's good, right, because
- 22:09Speaker 4: you don't really want to talk about the kicking game.
- 22:10Speaker 4: If it's doing its job, you shouldn't be talking about it.
- 22:13Speaker 4: If they're not doing their job, that's when you talk
- 22:15Speaker 4: about it. And nobody wants to hear that.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Like NFL officials.
- 22:18Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, Yeah, just wanted to just just go out there, kick,
- 22:22Speaker 4: walk back to your thing, all right, fives and hat taps.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Normally, I don't want to give the kicking game any credit,
- 22:27Speaker 1: and I know they deserve more than I've been willing
- 22:30Speaker 1: to give them over my lifetime. But on this particular case,
- 22:33Speaker 1: these two deserve a lot of credit. Myers was incredibly
- 22:36Speaker 1: productive most points by a kicker and a Super Bowl.
- 22:40Speaker 1: And Michael Dixon was phenomenal Sunday, Like if a punder
- 22:44Speaker 1: can be phenomenal Michael Dixon, and it wasn't just punting.
- 22:48Speaker 1: He got a bad snap that he got down as
- 22:51Speaker 1: a holder. I mean he took a bad snap on
- 22:54Speaker 1: a punt and quick kicked it and got it inside
- 22:56Speaker 1: the ten. Michael Dixon was incredible on Sun Gavel Gavel Gavel.
- 23:02Speaker 2: I think there is a lot of times that the
- 23:06Speaker 2: conversation around kickers is not good, not it is not respectful,
- 23:13Speaker 2: and understandably so.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Doesn't belong in the courtroom.
- 23:15Speaker 2: It doesn't Well, there's times when you the respect for
- 23:19Speaker 2: kickers needs to be It needs to be more.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Now we have a lot.
- 23:24Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I love the way that Hugh explains
- 23:27Speaker 2: that it's one fifth, not special teams is one third.
- 23:31Speaker 2: But I do think that the idea of the recipe
- 23:34Speaker 2: of great defense offense do enough go out of Yeah,
- 23:41Speaker 2: if you want to put up thirty thirty five, fine,
- 23:43Speaker 2: and they almost did, but the idea of we're also
- 23:46Speaker 2: going to control field position because they didn't have it
- 23:49Speaker 2: right there at the beginning of the game. And it
- 23:51Speaker 2: was a punt from Michael Dixon that ended up, excuse me,
- 23:54Speaker 2: that ended up kind of flipping that whole thing where
- 23:56Speaker 2: now it felt like, oh man, the Patriots are kind
- 23:59Speaker 2: of swim an uphill, so to speak. There they got
- 24:01Speaker 2: a tough road to hoe because they got a long
- 24:03Speaker 2: ways to go. When they punted that down, that one
- 24:06Speaker 2: at the two yard line, I thought there was no chance.
- 24:09Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I've ever felt less
- 24:11Speaker 2: confident that a team had a chance of going ninety
- 24:14Speaker 2: eight yards for a touchdown than at that moment in time.
- 24:17Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think Michael Dixon and Jason Myers
- 24:19Speaker 2: deserve the credit that they're getting.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Uh a little bit.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Good job boys, Jason Dixon, Michael Myers, Michael Myers. Oh wow,
- 24:30Speaker 2: that's creepy.
- 24:31Speaker 1: It was creepy. Next up, Lindsey Vonn needs to retire,
- 24:35Speaker 1: but she probably won't.
- 24:37Speaker 3: I think she probably will.
- 24:40Speaker 1: I think she's finally going to do it.
- 24:41Speaker 4: I think breaking your upper leg in two places in
- 24:45Speaker 4: a horrific accident like that after a knee replacement and
- 24:49Speaker 4: a torn acl and those are just like the most
- 24:51Speaker 4: recent injuries I I just don't know that she.
- 24:58Speaker 3: I guess maybe we're I think she'd be done with
- 24:59Speaker 3: you Olympics. Is that fair?
- 25:01Speaker 4: Like she might do another competition if she can heal
- 25:04Speaker 4: in the next two years.
- 25:05Speaker 3: But I don't see her being ready for another Olympics again.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Boy, I think she should. I mean, she's accomplished so much,
- 25:11Speaker 1: so much, and if ever there was any doubt about
- 25:14Speaker 1: her toughness, tenacity or willingness, I mean, I mean, she's
- 25:18Speaker 1: gonna be remembered forever for this injury because she probably
- 25:22Speaker 1: shouldn't have been out there, but she was playing through
- 25:24Speaker 1: the pain. But when her father says I'm going to
- 25:28Speaker 1: do my best to convince her to retire, I my
- 25:31Speaker 1: guess is he doesn't know if he can do it.
- 25:34Speaker 1: I think she just is addicted to.
- 25:36Speaker 2: Gavel gavel gal, You're right, I don't know for sure.
- 25:39Speaker 2: If I mean, she started at seventeen, she's like forty
- 25:43Speaker 2: one now, like she's been doing this forever, right, I mean,
- 25:46Speaker 2: this is who she is, I can tell you is
- 25:48Speaker 2: I mean, anybody that's played any sports when it's when
- 25:52Speaker 2: it's over, when the curtain drops for the final time
- 25:54Speaker 2: and you're no longer that there is a there's a depression,
- 25:58Speaker 2: there's a morning that happens, and I suppose everybody has
- 26:01Speaker 2: to deal with it. You don't get to play forever.
- 26:04Speaker 2: And yet it seems like she's I think she's probably
- 26:07Speaker 2: gonna want to come back. I don't think she's going
- 26:09Speaker 2: to want to end it on this note. And yet
- 26:12Speaker 2: I'm with you, guys, I think she probably should.
- 26:14Speaker 4: It's interesting too, because she keeps making a point to say, like,
- 26:17Speaker 4: this was not because of my acl my aunt. My
- 26:19Speaker 4: pole clipped to the flag. It caused me to turn,
- 26:22Speaker 4: That's why I fell. It had nothing to do with
- 26:24Speaker 4: my knee. I just think, like what we were talking
- 26:26Speaker 4: about after the show yesterday, she's kind of just she
- 26:28Speaker 4: goes out there with reckless abandon. I mean, it is
- 26:30Speaker 4: just flying down that hill. What you have to do, right,
- 26:32Speaker 4: you're in a competition. But I don't know, I think.
- 26:35Speaker 1: If you, if you had a healthy knees, you probably
- 26:38Speaker 1: wouldn't have hit that pole.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
- 26:42Speaker 1: They kind of go hand in hand.
- 26:43Speaker 4: Yeah, but she said it was her ski pole that
- 26:44Speaker 4: hit the right the flag, and so it caused her
- 26:47Speaker 4: upper body to twist, not her lower body.
- 26:50Speaker 3: And then she couldn't control the rest of it.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
- 26:53Speaker 3: You're going so fast. It's so hard, you.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Know, not how anybody does it. I can't even stand
- 26:57Speaker 1: up on those things, much less down a hill.
- 27:00Speaker 2: It would be interesting to see you on top of
- 27:03Speaker 2: that hill because where she wrecked was early. That's where
- 27:06Speaker 2: they gain. They go from my zero to eighty miles
- 27:08Speaker 2: an hour.
- 27:09Speaker 1: It's incredible record for most broken spots bones. Yeah, yeah,
- 27:14Speaker 1: that's what I don't want to set that. Yeah, I
- 27:17Speaker 1: might have set a record that can't be broken. I
- 27:19Speaker 1: think I could break it in all of them pieces. Wow,
- 27:22Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the next one. Cal Rally,
- 27:26Speaker 1: is the interview you're looking most forward to during Chuck
- 27:30Speaker 1: and Buck's award winning spring training coverage next week?
- 27:33Speaker 3: No, Josh Naylor, That's where I was going.
- 27:38Speaker 4: I've been counting down. I'm like, finally we're gonna get
- 27:40Speaker 4: to hear from Josh Naylor.
- 27:41Speaker 3: I can't wait.
- 27:42Speaker 1: That's where I was going. I always prefer the new
- 27:45Speaker 1: guys anyway. I mean, I can't wait to talk to you.
- 27:47Speaker 3: I'm still exciting.
- 27:48Speaker 1: But I thought for sure that cal Raley would be
- 27:51Speaker 1: the obvious choice of you and probably everybody listening. But
- 27:55Speaker 1: Josh Naylor cannot wait to have Josh Naylor on the
- 27:58Speaker 1: show and in that form, because the format is the
- 28:01Speaker 1: key to it, where we just get to go twenty minutes,
- 28:04Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about it and we just
- 28:05Speaker 1: get to talk.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Yes, Gavel, Cavel, Gavel. I can't wait to hear from
- 28:11Speaker 2: Josh Naylor. Don't you don't you dare? Don't you dare?
- 28:16Speaker 2: Put Dumper aside? Don't you dare?
- 28:18Speaker 4: No?
- 28:19Speaker 3: Fourth on mind putting them aside?
- 28:20Speaker 2: Fourth second, Cal, if you're listening, don't I apologize?
- 28:24Speaker 3: We also just had him on.
- 28:25Speaker 4: That's the other thing doesn't matter, So I mean tonight, Yeah,
- 28:29Speaker 4: I'm excited for it, but we haven't had Josh Naylor on.
- 28:32Speaker 4: That's why it's anticipatory.
- 28:34Speaker 1: No, no, no, Cal's Numper one. Well, he is coming
- 28:39Speaker 1: off a pretty good year, so it's pretty bad. Yeah,
- 28:42Speaker 1: pretty yeah, kind of a headliner. I mean, if I'm
- 28:46Speaker 1: going on the In for Nest show on Tuesday and
- 28:48Speaker 1: I got Cal coming up on Wednesday, probably gonna say
- 28:51Speaker 1: Cal Rawley tomorrow on the show.
- 28:53Speaker 3: Should probably promote it.
- 28:54Speaker 2: I'm excited about all of them. Pictures less then, but
- 28:57Speaker 2: I'm excited about all of them.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Well, pictures Wednesday. We know that's got to happen. It's
- 29:01Speaker 1: Pitcher's Day. Yeah, we're doing it. We don't have to
- 29:03Speaker 1: make any day just non athletes day. It's a holiday.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Yeah, get them all in at once, that's right.
- 29:09Speaker 1: But the other two, Brendan Donovan and Kate Anderson, the newcomers.
- 29:13Speaker 1: I want the new number, thirty three Brendan Donovan. Yeah,
- 29:16Speaker 1: I can't wait to see. Is that right? Going thirty three? Yep?
- 29:18Speaker 1: Look at that.
- 29:20Speaker 3: Accidentally calling Bucky Jacobson nice.
- 29:22Speaker 2: I don't think there's much similarities there.
- 29:25Speaker 1: You're both kind of ginger, and you both have had
- 29:28Speaker 1: a mullet in your life. He still has one.
- 29:30Speaker 3: Yeah, both hit a baseball.
- 29:32Speaker 1: You can hit a baseball. Not a lot of speed,
- 29:35Speaker 1: not a lot of speed. Both are in the cardinal
- 29:39Speaker 1: organization at one boy, similarities are piling the practically twins? Yeah,
- 29:44Speaker 1: practically not.
- 29:45Speaker 4: But if I looked up his birthday and it was
- 29:47Speaker 4: the same day as yours, that'd be cool.
- 29:49Speaker 1: All right? Final one. With football season ending and baseball
- 29:52Speaker 1: season immediately beginning, it's going to be very difficult to
- 29:57Speaker 1: get into basketball season.
- 29:58Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's very difficult.
- 30:01Speaker 4: I'll be ready for a basketball season the first day
- 30:04Speaker 4: of March Madness.
- 30:06Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's about it.
- 30:07Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot more than we've talked about
- 30:10Speaker 1: on the air, and I think it is a really
- 30:12Speaker 1: exciting year. This is one of the great freshman classes
- 30:16Speaker 1: in the history of college basketball. I mean, they are sensational,
- 30:20Speaker 1: but you're right, it's hard with all this other stuff
- 30:22Speaker 1: going on. And now we're practically overlapping. If they ever
- 30:25Speaker 1: go to an eighteen game schedule, we're gonna be overlapping
- 30:28Speaker 1: Spring training and the Super Bowl for goodness sake, poor basketball.
- 30:31Speaker 1: So we need the Sonics back and and I need
- 30:35Speaker 1: a little extra time to get ready for March Madness
- 30:37Speaker 1: because I am right now iloquent.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Gavel, gavel gavel.
- 30:42Speaker 1: What is this?
- 30:43Speaker 2: Babsketball? Yous tako? What is it? Is it?
- 30:47Speaker 1: Basketball? Basketball? Round ball? Oh? Like the Sonics?
- 30:51Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I will care about it when the
- 30:55Speaker 2: Sonics are back and when March Madness comes around, because
- 30:58Speaker 2: you're right, super Bowl training, if you can make an
- 31:02Speaker 2: impression on me in the next three days, bat bamsketball,
- 31:05Speaker 2: go ahead.
- 31:06Speaker 1: They really do just have three days in our world.
- 31:09Speaker 2: So like, uh yeah, because I'll probably be watching the
- 31:13Speaker 2: Winter Olympics.
- 31:13Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch a lot of college basketball.
- 31:15Speaker 4: Oh, I will be watching more Olympics and college basketball.
- 31:18Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, I'll be watching some speed skating.
- 31:21Speaker 1: See, but they were never going to talk about that.
- 31:23Speaker 3: No, I don't better in a long form entertaining.
- 31:27Speaker 1: Yeah, actually there's some enjoyableketball. I don't care if swits
- 31:31Speaker 1: Switzerland's better than us at skiing.
- 31:33Speaker 4: I'm gonna be watching I'm definitely gonna be watching the
- 31:35Speaker 4: Olympic hockey.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'll watch the Olympic hockey all right.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Coming up next, we close out the show with the
- 31:41Speaker 1: one last thing on Sports Radio ninety three point three
- 31:44Speaker 1: kJ r f M pri Vital segment. Check them out
- 31:50Speaker 1: here on this Championship Week Tuesday. Of course, parade coming tomorrow,
- 31:57Speaker 1: and you know what, just go out celebrate the parent
- 32:00Speaker 1: did take those good vibes right on with you all
- 32:04Speaker 1: the way. That's to Lelap Resort Casino. Just turn it
- 32:07Speaker 1: into a whole day and night adventure main stay overnight
- 32:09Speaker 1: if you'd like, you know, rest up, You've earned it,
- 32:12Speaker 1: You're a champion.
- 32:13Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know if the championship
- 32:15Speaker 2: parade has to stop in the city, right right, They're
- 32:18Speaker 2: starting somewhere in Looming in the head and north. You
- 32:21Speaker 2: could just keep on trucking.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Sifty one time rode a bike all the way to Pullman. Yeah,
- 32:27Speaker 1: you can walk to la after the paradees over.
- 32:30Speaker 2: Well, and Pullman's not going to offer near as much
- 32:32Speaker 2: cool stuff as remotely.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Pretty fun over there. I had a lot of fun,
- 32:38Speaker 1: but it's not as much just as a leap. Yeah,
- 32:41Speaker 1: so t Lala Resort, Casino, quill see the Creek Casino,
- 32:44Speaker 1: Stop by the Draft Kings sports book. Take all those winnings,
- 32:48Speaker 1: because whoever bet on the Seahawks, and I would imagine
- 32:51Speaker 1: that's a lot of you cashed in, very clearly that
- 32:53Speaker 1: you cashed in. Don't pretend that you didn't know.
- 32:58Speaker 3: Don't lie about it.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Bucky, what's your one last thing? I
- 33:04Speaker 1: had a couple of different things.
- 33:05Speaker 2: I was, I guess I'm gonna just go with this, Ashley,
- 33:07Speaker 2: what do you think you're just gonna start jumping on
- 33:10Speaker 2: this AI bandwid.
- 33:12Speaker 4: Me, No, it wasn't me. I forgot to tag Nick
- 33:14Speaker 4: Nick Allen. Nick sent it to me last week and
- 33:17Speaker 4: I said I'd save it.
- 33:18Speaker 3: For this week.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Did you see the post season on Twitter post that
- 33:21Speaker 2: actually put out therble judge Cornelius buck Hole?
- 33:25Speaker 1: Uh, you know that was not me.
- 33:28Speaker 2: It's great, So you got it all you you're calling
- 33:31Speaker 2: me Cornelius buck hole the eighth.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got.
- 33:34Speaker 2: The AI buck Nelius corn hole.
- 33:36Speaker 3: The which one was that? I can't remember?
- 33:38Speaker 4: It's cornhole, that's right, I did it backwards.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I like AI or not. Actually,
- 33:46Speaker 1: I just I don't like it.
- 33:48Speaker 3: Nick creates of you.
- 33:49Speaker 2: It's funny. Yeah, anyway, so yep, I don't know for sure.
- 33:54Speaker 2: And it's the eighth. What I think you called me
- 33:56Speaker 2: the one hundred and eighth today? I was going to
- 33:58Speaker 2: put seventy generations growing. Nobody really knows, really, Yeah, it's
- 34:04Speaker 2: a mystery.
- 34:04Speaker 1: I just read what the court details give me, okay,
- 34:08Speaker 1: and so I just read it. But yeah, nobody really knows.
- 34:11Speaker 1: It's a mystery. Yeah, nobody knows how many generations of
- 34:15Speaker 1: corn holes there are.
- 34:16Speaker 2: How many buck Needius corn holes. There's been a lot
- 34:19Speaker 2: of them.
- 34:19Speaker 3: There's a lot of them.
- 34:20Speaker 1: Is the Really I don't think there has I don't
- 34:23Speaker 1: I think that's good.
- 34:25Speaker 2: I don't know if you need to pass that name
- 34:26Speaker 2: down Cornelius Buckhole yeah, or buck Nelius corn Hole, whatever
- 34:30Speaker 2: your name is.
- 34:31Speaker 1: Either one works. He's got the old judge has two
- 34:35Speaker 1: different driver's license. He's above the wall. That is a fact.
- 34:43Speaker 1: A nice work again, Nick, No, Nick, knock it off.
- 34:46Speaker 1: I like it. Back in your truck and get to work. Yeah.
- 34:49Speaker 1: He didn't do me any favors on my waistline when
- 34:52Speaker 1: he did the AI of me last week.
- 34:55Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I noticed that. I was like, wow, just
- 34:56Speaker 3: a lot thinner than that photo.
- 35:00Speaker 1: You know what, though it looked exactly like one of
- 35:02Speaker 1: my uncles. I'm like, you know what, now I can
- 35:05Speaker 1: see that I will look like my uncle if I
- 35:08Speaker 1: continue to grow up. Go yeah, yeah, all right, Ashley,
- 35:13Speaker 1: what do you got for one last thing?
- 35:14Speaker 4: Well, as we were talking about spring training briefly, the
- 35:18Speaker 4: Mariners have made put up some posts.
- 35:20Speaker 3: We were correct.
- 35:21Speaker 4: Lots of people all already there. We've got a nailor sighting.
- 35:25Speaker 4: Hel's there. They're all there.
- 35:27Speaker 3: They're in the batting cages.
- 35:29Speaker 1: And I do love that about them, and I think
- 35:32Speaker 1: most guys now do that in Major League Baseball.
- 35:35Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, kel would be there, but yeah, Ryan
- 35:38Speaker 3: Bliss is there.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I don't know, Bucky. I mean I think once upon
- 35:41Speaker 1: a time, yeah, players did take advantage. If I don't
- 35:44Speaker 1: have to be there until this time, then I will
- 35:45Speaker 1: be there.
- 35:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:47Speaker 1: I just think their lives are so cushy. Now, yeah,
- 35:50Speaker 1: in the off season, and their lifestyles are so cushy
- 35:55Speaker 1: that maybe I don't know why you would try to
- 35:59Speaker 1: save two three days. Get down there with your guys.
- 36:01Speaker 1: If you don't work out with them, who cares. But
- 36:04Speaker 1: get down there with your guys, spend some time with them,
- 36:07Speaker 1: get it started the right way together. I like to
- 36:10Speaker 1: see that. I don't know if every organization does this
- 36:12Speaker 1: in baseball, but it feels to me like the Mariners consistently,
- 36:17Speaker 1: certainly since Cal Rawley became more of a leader, he
- 36:19Speaker 1: and Julio both. Julio's there always too. I don't want
- 36:22Speaker 1: to just give the credit to Cal. Julio's an early arrivor.
- 36:25Speaker 1: I love that they all show up the first opportunity
- 36:28Speaker 1: they're given to be there. They're there, and Cal's actually
- 36:31Speaker 1: been there for like two weeks before then. Yeah.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Yeah, Well they all went straight from the super Bowl
- 36:35Speaker 2: back to spring training. I think Col's yeah is hanging
- 36:38Speaker 2: out down their majority of the offseason nowadays.
- 36:41Speaker 1: But I mean the idea.
- 36:43Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I was always chomping at the bid
- 36:46Speaker 2: at this time of the year. I couldn't wait to
- 36:47Speaker 2: get down there. Now, most of my career as a
- 36:49Speaker 2: minor leaguer, I didn't have money. I didn't have a house.
- 36:53Speaker 2: It was renting the house. I had to stay in
- 36:55Speaker 2: the hotel. Well, that started on a certain day, So
- 36:58Speaker 2: it was one of those you just had to wait
- 37:00Speaker 2: until the day they told you you could go, because
- 37:02Speaker 2: that's when they're gonna start paying for your place to stay.
- 37:05Speaker 2: For all these guys that are big league dudes and
- 37:07Speaker 2: they got the money, you know, they're renting houses. They're
- 37:09Speaker 2: not staying at the team hotel. Right there ren't no
- 37:12Speaker 2: houses and there. I'm sure most of them nowadays are
- 37:14Speaker 2: kind of like, well, we're just gonna report with everybody.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Like the idea of pitchers and catchers. Yeah, they show
- 37:20Speaker 2: up and they start doing their stuff like it's it's
- 37:23Speaker 2: ran by the team.
- 37:24Speaker 1: The position players.
- 37:25Speaker 2: They can show up whenever they want still get some
- 37:27Speaker 2: swings in because they would be doing that anyways, they
- 37:29Speaker 2: might as well do it with the training room right there,
- 37:32Speaker 2: and you know, get everything kind of settled in their
- 37:34Speaker 2: locker and all that kind of stuff. To me, I
- 37:36Speaker 2: understand why these guys are showing up early. It's just
- 37:39Speaker 2: as a minor league, you didn't really have that option.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know, I mean we had the
- 37:45Speaker 1: we don't. It's not football. I don't know if you
- 37:49Speaker 1: have holdouts. Yeah, in baseball, you know, like you're doing football.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Some years. We did have the Donovan Solano situation where
- 37:56Speaker 1: you had trouble with his passport apparently last year and
- 38:00Speaker 1: couldn't get there on time. And that happens on occasion.
- 38:04Speaker 1: But for the most part, if that does anything for
- 38:07Speaker 1: you as a Mariner fan, these guys really like hanging
- 38:10Speaker 1: out with one another. They like to be there and
- 38:12Speaker 1: they don't want to be the guy that comes in last.
- 38:14Speaker 1: They want to be there when everybody is there to
- 38:16Speaker 1: get it started.
- 38:17Speaker 4: And I like that sounds similar to the Seahawks. Really
- 38:20Speaker 4: does worked out well for the Seahawks.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Hell of a year, just saying it's gonna crack and
- 38:26Speaker 2: do it too in the middle of it. The Seahawks championship,
- 38:29Speaker 2: cracking championship.
- 38:30Speaker 1: This could be one hell of a year.
- 38:31Speaker 2: Mariners Championship Sonics come back.
- 38:33Speaker 4: I want to get carried away with convinced the world
- 38:36Speaker 4: was ending if all of those good things happened.
- 38:38Speaker 1: I don't want to get carried away with like Stanley
- 38:40Speaker 1: Cupp or anything like that. That seems silly to predict
- 38:42Speaker 1: anything like that. But a Super Bowl championship, a playoff
- 38:49Speaker 1: berth for the Cracking to get to prove that we're
- 38:51Speaker 1: back on the right track again. That's that's in play
- 38:55Speaker 1: right now. We're a playoff. Yeah, this season ended today,
- 38:57Speaker 1: the Cracking are in the playoffs at this point point,
- 39:02Speaker 1: favorites to win the American League. So World Cup coming
- 39:10Speaker 1: to Seattle this year, maybe the Sonics returning. I mean,
- 39:13Speaker 1: this could be the greatest year in the history of
- 39:17Speaker 1: Seattle sports. Twenty twenty six has the chance to be.
- 39:20Speaker 3: My head might explode.
- 39:22Speaker 1: I'm here for it, yeah, no doubt. All right, that'll
- 39:24Speaker 1: do it for us today. Thank you very much for
- 39:26Speaker 1: joining us. We appreciate it. We'll be back tomorrow at
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