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A PI, a New Dad, and a Doctor Walk Into a Podcast · White Coat Black Sheep

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  Welcome to White Coat, Black Sheep where science gets curious and dogma gets
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  uncomfortable. I'm Dr. Savelli. Today we talk physiology, evidence,
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  and real-world medicine, plus the questions you're not supposed to ask but
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  probably should. If you care about health and think there's a better way,
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  welcome to our show.
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  Thank you so much for joining me today.
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  Tell us your name and what do you do?
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  Well, my name's Miguel, Miguel Morales.
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  Okay.
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  And then I'm kind of old. I was born in the
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  1900s. I'm 27 years old.
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  Okay.
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  So I made that cut right before 2000 started.
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  I'm a 1900er as well.
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  I don't know if
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  I heard you. I was watching one of your other podcasts, and I don't know if it's
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  true.
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  I don't know if I can say it. Are you 42?
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  Okay. I was like, which F word is about to happen right now?
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  I thought you were going to say Florida.
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  No.
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  Something else, bleep. And then...
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  So I am 42.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  1983. I'm a Sagittarius.
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  Jeez, Louise.
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  Yeah, not single, if you're wondering. I'm just kidding.
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  No, that's pretty crazy.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, for me, it always just seems to me to-- because I like to kind of look at it
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  longevity wise.
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  Yep.
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  And I'm 27 now, and my-- I wake up and my
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  knees sometimes are like, eh,
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  popping, popping and-
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  Man
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  ... I'll get up and I'm like, "Ugh." And I can definitely feel
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  just like the age. Like time, Father Time
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  is close to you.
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  Yeah.
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  So when I see someone that's a bit older, like late 30s, 40s, and
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  50s-
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  Uh-huh
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  ... and they're still active, they're still-
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  Yeah
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  ... putting in effort-
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  Oh, I'm just getting started
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  ... I'm like, "Man, that's definitely a good sign to see."
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  Yes. Yeah.
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  And as far as
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  what I do, though first and foremost, just last year,
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  I became a father.
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  Oh my gosh. Congratulations.
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  Yeah. For the first time.
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  He's one year and three months, so 15 months right
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  now.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  And-
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  Is he a mini you?
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  Yeah, he's crazy.
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  It's just a crazy switch because you go from all your life just worrying about you
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  maybe-
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  Adulthood
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  ... maybe your immediate family, but even immediate family's a bit different as
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  far as taking care.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And then all of a sudden, I'm a father.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  All of a sudden, there's
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  a real baby in front of me, and I'm like, "This is me.
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  This is literally half me."
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  And
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  it's been
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  definitely a crazy--
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  Well, it was a crazy 2025, and then it's been a crazy 2026 because every--
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  It's like different chapters. It's the same book, but it's different chapters.
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  There was him just not sleeping at night and-
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  Oh, yeah
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  ... crying throughout the morning.
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  Yeah.
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  There was him starting to bite, like his teeth were starting to come in.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  So he's starting to chew on literally everything.
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  And then now his
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  legs work.
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  Oh.
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  His legs were like, "Hey, we're activated." And now he
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  walks.
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  Wow.
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  And then even just yesterday, he almost started running as well.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  It's
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  a lot of adapting to it.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Do you have kids?
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  I don't.
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  Oh, wow.
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  But what you're describing is medical milestones, and so as a doctor, we're
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  always looking for those things. And so I
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  love to see the joy in your face as you're just describing-
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  Yeah
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  ... what it feels like to hit those milestones.
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  It's like a-
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  Not everybody gets that.
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  It's different milestones almost like daily in a weird way.
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  Yeah.
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  It's like new abilities, and then you have to adjust
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  because-
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  Yep
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  ... sometimes he just gets bored of the
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  show or bored of the food or bored of the-
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  Yep
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  ... he's like, "Nah, you guys got to make it fresh."
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  Yeah.
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  "Switch it up."
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  He's like, "This is the new me every day."
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  That's kind of how the market is, huh? You got to bring something new.
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  Bring something.
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  Yes.
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  I want a new podcast.
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  The people are bored.
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  The name's really interesting, Black Sheep, White Coat. Where did that come from?
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  Yes. So I just was laying up.
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  It was like 3:00 a.m.
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  I couldn't sleep, which is, I would say, relatively common from
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  time to time with the different ideas that come to my mind.
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  And I was just, okay, I knew I wanted to do a podcast.
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  I knew like, which one of these is not like the others? I feel like me.
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  This one's a little different. And in a good way, I think,
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  mostly good.
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  You're wired how you're wired.
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  So in medicine, we answer to the medical
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  board. We are supposed to answer
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  medical questions exactly the same, and there's
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  merit to that.
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  It's like cookie cutter a little?
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  Cookie cutter, right? But it's also protocols.
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  So if you see a surgeon, ideally if you see a bunch of surgeons,
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  they would say, "Yes, you are recommended for surgery." Now, is that how people
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  are really experiencing life, and is that how everything is actually landing?
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  No.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Because the reality is we're all different.
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  We all have different levels of expectation on us.
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  Like you're a dad, you have demands on you. You have to show up to your job.
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  You have to perform.
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  Yeah.
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  You have mental work. You have physical work.
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  You have a family to provide for. So there's a lot of
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  complexity outside of just somebody showing up, and I'm
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  supposed to run a basic protocol.
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  So yeah. That being said,
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  I wanted to just approach medicine differently, and I
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  wanted to really believe that I'm special-
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  Mm
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  ... that you're special, that each person that comes through is
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  special. And so I understand the protocols, but I also
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  know when we're going to deviate because I feel like that is
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  what you need right now, and then you're going to come back to me, and we'll check
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  in, and then we'll just address things as they come.
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  Mm.
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  So one size does not fit all.
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  With the medical-- This is just a curiosity question.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But
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  as far as in my work and then previous work,
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  like-Every day is kind of performance.
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  If you're not-
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  Yeah
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  ... up to par on a certain quota, or if you're not performing,
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  then you're cut off the team, and you have to perform-
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  Yes
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  ... every single day
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  Performance indicators.
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  And then like the best job security is a good performance.
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  Yeah.
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  And I'm curious with medicine, because you've been in it since
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  like two decades, right?
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  2015. Yeah, so I graduated in 2015, but
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  really, I started as an MRI tech, and I was 21 years old.
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  So-
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  So like two decades you've been in the-
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  You do the math. I don't want to count those numbers. I mean, it's fine.
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  And, but as far as-- because I know to become an official doctor,
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  you need extensive studies. Congratulations, by the
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  way. You-
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  Thank you
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  ... that's commitment.
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  Mm.
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  But once you get the paper, is it pretty much like you're set, you're pretty-
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  No
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  ... or do you also have to perform and,
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  or is that your performance test is just getting the degree and getting the-
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  Yeah
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  ... the white coat?
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  I love that question, and so I really do want to highlight you,
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  but I will answer this.
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  So being a doctor, you would think that you're like in charge of
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  things now, like you're running things, but there's always a boss, okay.
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  Ah.
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  Every single person always has somebody that they answer to, whether it's the
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  patients, the payers, if it's insurance-based or-
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  Mm
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  ... the boards who decide what is or isn't your
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  practice. And then each state has their
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  own board, and then there's the Fed, the DOJ, which you
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  answer to them as well, right?
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  Oh, man.
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  Yeah. So the-
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  Some serious people.
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  Yeah. And then if you leave the state-
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  And that's after you get your degree and all that?
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  That's after. So you have to know, "Okay, where am I standing right now,
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  and I'm seeing this person right now, and they're standing where?" Like
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  so the whereabouts, all of that stuff matters.
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  Oh, wow.
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  And that decides who you're answering to and what
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  your
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  bandwidth is to practice. Like some states
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  allow certain procedures to be done, some don't,
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  such as dry needling. Some states allow it, some don't.
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  So it
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  depends on your authorities that dictate that state.
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  Mm.
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  So,
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  yeah, I think hopefully that does answer the question.
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  There's always a boss that you're answering to.
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  Yeah, it definitely seems like once you're done with all the
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  tremendously hard work, it's more-
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  You're the worker still
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  ... tremendous hard work.
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  You just get stronger.
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  And now you just have more people to-
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  If it doesn't break you. Yeah. You have more people. No, that's exactly right.
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  There's more-
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  More responsibilities
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  ... freedom there. Yes.
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  More rules.
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  There's more rules. There's more people to please.
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  You just get better-
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  Oh, man
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  ... at, like, okay, that was-
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  It's like the bio for fatherhood, right?
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  Yeah. You're just getting stronger every day, and you don't realize that that's the
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  reality of your training.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, that's pretty cool that you have these side quests that you do, like this
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  podcast.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  I'm surprised you're not like-
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  This is my fun. This is like, okay, I'm decompressing.
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  I'm just hanging out with somebody cool that I don't know, that is in a world
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  outside of something that I would never get to look into or
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  know. And if you came to me as a client, then I would want
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  to know your daily-
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  Mm
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  ... because that makes me better at treating people of your industry.
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  Mm.
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  So the demand's on you.
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  Yeah, I agree. Definitely everyone's a bit different because-
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  Yeah
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  ... it's like
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  if 10 people have a headache or so,
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  those 10 people have 10 different stories.
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  And there's-
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  Totally
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  ... and there's probably cornerstones that are invisible that you don't see that
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  affects-
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  Yes
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  ... the entire thing or maybe they're...
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  Yeah, I could see a lot of moving parts where you work.
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  Yeah, right?
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  So are you actually-- is it just more so prescribing medicine, or do you
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  actually, are they on the table like- ... on a surgery table?
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  Are you like with anesthesia mask?
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  That is so funny. So, I-- okay, so in all fairness, I
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  am a hybrid doctor, meaning I do more than just a typical
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  outpatient doctor because-- so primary care
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  is what I started in, family medicine, so I can see babies, right?
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  I could do your general checks. I can see kids.
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  I can see elderly.
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  I chose to specialize into elderly care, and then that
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  led me to specialize into-- so I see elderly
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  at facilities, by the way. So these are people who they're discharged
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  from a hospital, and then they go to a place because they're not strong enough yet-
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  Mm
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  ... and they can't go home, so they have to do exercises, and they have
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  a whole algorithm that they have to go through just to get
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  stronger and be able to do their daily acts of living.
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  So-
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  Mm
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  ... like just getting up out of bed, you have to be able to push yourself up and
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  not fall. You know?
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  Yeah.
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  Like you can't break-
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  It's crazy how much we take for granted-
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  Yeah
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  ... like just waking up, taking a shower, getting ready-
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  Just sitting upright
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  ... driving
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  Like our core is strong, so we can hold our own body up.
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  Some people are like, "I can't do that."
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  They can't brush their teeth. A bath. What?
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  My baby.
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  Yeah.
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  Can't do that.
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  They can't take care of a child. Like they are now the one in need.
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  So if you're the one in need, man. It-
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  Yeah
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  ... so I see those people, and
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  some of them are short-term and long-term, so meaning short-term is actually
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  defined as less than six months. So-
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  So you're in the elderly homes like taking-
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  Mm-hmm
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  ... like in the mud, taking care of them?
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  Yep.
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  Oh, my God. Like even like restroom kind of stuff?
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  I try to be the good and the bad.
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  Ugh.
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  Yeah. It's rough.
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  I think one time I was
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  looking for a job. I was on Indeed, and then that was one of the
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  positions open.
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  Caretaker.
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  Was a caretaker for elderly.
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  Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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  And then I was reading the job descriptions, and it was like, "You have
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  to clean them if they use the restroom.
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  You have to take them, you have to give them a bath."
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  Yeah.
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  I was like, "Uh, let me skip over that one."
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  It's-- thank God for the people who are caregivers and-
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  Yeah. Shout out them.
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  Right?
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  But man, that is a-
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  It's a tough job because-
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  I would not want to wake up to that
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  ... we're nasty. Like humans are gross. We're gross.
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  Like the stink-
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  Only my baby's the only person I'm going to change.
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  Right? Yeah. So okay, that's one
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  categoryAnd then the other categories are, I
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  have directorship, so I sit on a lot of different committees and boards and
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  so-
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  Like the decision-makers?
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  Yes.
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  Oh, wow.
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  And so, yeah.
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  That's important.
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  I try to be involved.
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  But mostly I'm probably just disruptive and cracking jokes.
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  Because I want people to have fun a little bit, not be so serious.
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  Mm.
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  So that's another thing. So you don't have to just do patient care.
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  There's some, I would say politics or admin that you can do.
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  And then I have clinics, so I just
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  launched an outpatient place. It's a functional medicine practice.
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  I don't know if you know what that is.
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  The one in Florida?
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  Yes.
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  The one in J.
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  You saw. Okay. Yeah. So that's so fun.
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  Isn't that pretty so far away, too?
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  It's not too far.
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  Are you from there?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Florida? We're in California.
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  Yeah.
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  Florida's on the other side.
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  Okay, but if you catch a flight from here to Denver and then Denver there, it's so
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  easy.
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  Oh, okay. I didn't think of it like that. I'll just hop on the jet.
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  It's actually so pleasant. Yeah, right? You just hop on the jet.
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  You just work harder. You just literally work harder, and then you
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  can have whatever you want.
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  Oh. The words that are being spoken today.
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  I literally just work harder.
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  Did you
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  always want something way over there, or
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  were there not really any options-
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  No
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  ... over here in Bakersfield?
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  No.
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  Or more closer, I guess.
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  When I activated this whole process prior to
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  launching it,
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  Fitology, I thought it was in California.
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  Mm.
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  But it was already in motion. I already had spoken
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  to the owner, and I-
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  It's kind of a key detail not to-
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  I know
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  ... have it, right?
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  Yeah. So it's like-
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  The location being from California to Florida.
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  You know what? Sort of. It-
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  Just a small difference in the plans.
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  Yeah. No, that's hilarious.
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  Okay, so to highlight that is just very true to me.
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  I've never believed in a geographical boundary, ever.
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  Mm.
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  Ever. And-
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  That's good that people are-- You want to know Floridians?
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  Is
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  that what you call them?
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  Yeah. Floridian.
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  Floridian.
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  Floridanian.
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  And Californians, and Bakersfieldians all on your side.
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  Yeah.
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  So-
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  I feel they're so similar, though. The people are very similar.
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  They're-
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  Did you have any history in Florida, or was it just-
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  Me? Yeah, because I was born and raised there.
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  Oh.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, well, that makes a big difference.
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  Yeah, and I did my undergrad there.
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  I went to Orlando, Adventist University for radiology, and
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  then I did pre-med at UWF, University of West Florida.
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  So yeah. I have-
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  What did you do in Bakersfield?
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  I married some random guy from here.
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  And then I got my training here, my residency, and then I just
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  kind of loved it, so-
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  Oh
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  ... here we are.
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  Congratulations on the marriage.
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  Thank you.
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  Marriage?
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  No. Well, then we got divorced. So-
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  Oh. Oh
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  ... we can say congratulations on that, and then now I'm engaged.
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  Oh.
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  Well,
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  whatever.
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  You don't have to keep up with it. You know what?
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  Relationships are hard.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  What's your status?
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  I have a-
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  If you're on Facebook, how would you click?
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  Well, if you go on my profile, you'll see my girlfriend.
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  She's the mother of my baby.
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  Mm.
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  And then she's like,
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  "We should get married. I should have a ring on my finger."
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  And I think right now I definitely see it in the future, potentially.
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  I'm not going to because you never know.
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  I
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  never thought I'd be having a baby at 27, and-
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  Yeah
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  ... but really, I think there's really no perfect time to have a baby, and-
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  Yeah
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  ... in the long run, I don't think you're going to regret having a baby. You know?
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  Like literally-
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  No, look at how much you light up just talking about it.
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  Yeah. Well, I mean, I-
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  It's like a mini you
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  ... enjoy being a father because
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  even years before I had the baby-
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  Mm-hmm
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  ... I was like, "I know I'm going to be a father." So I think one thing that was
• 16:04
  always consistent-
• 16:04
  That's crazy
• 16:04
  ... in my lifetime was I was like, "I just know that there's going to be a mini
• 16:09
  Miguel."
• 16:09
  Yeah.
• 16:10
  And here he is now.
• 16:11
  Oh my gosh.
• 16:12
  But
• 16:14
  she's my girlfriend.
• 16:16
  I think-
• 16:16
  How long have you guys been dating?
• 16:18
  It's been-
• 16:19
  Sorry to pry- ... but you opened the door.
• 16:22
  Yeah. Well, we've known each other for, I want to say, I'm
• 16:26
  27. Whoo. Here we go.
• 16:28
  Is that old to you? Because to me, you're so young.
• 16:32
  I'm 29.
• 16:35
  At times it feels kind of old, especially when I'm around
• 16:38
  younger people, like 20.
• 16:41
  Because I sometimes drive down colleges and even down high schools.
• 16:45
  Yeah.
• 16:46
  And when I was in high school, the seniors there, even when I was a senior, I
• 16:49
  remember like, "Oh, they're like an adult.
• 16:50
  They have a mortgage." "These guys are..." Especially the football team.
• 16:54
  And now when I drive down high schools, I'll drive down
• 16:58
  just depending where I'm at, like around the Central Valley.
• 17:00
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:01
  But these kids look like kids. These kids look like-
• 17:04
  They look so young
• 17:05
  ... kids.
• 17:06
  Yes.
• 17:06
  They're like this tall.
• 17:07
  Yeah.
• 17:08
  And then I'll sometimes even drive down colleges like San Luis
• 17:12
  Obispo. Sometimes I go down there-
• 17:13
  Mm-hmm
• 17:14
  ... or down BC or CSUB.
• 17:16
  Yeah.
• 17:17
  They look a little older than kids.
• 17:20
  Yeah. So the older-
• 17:21
  And I'm like, "What the heck?"
• 17:21
  ... you get, the younger-
• 17:22
  Yeah, and now it's like-
• 17:22
  ... people look.
• 17:23
  Yeah, pretty much.
• 17:24
  Yeah.
• 17:24
  And even now my sister who,
• 17:27
  there's
• 17:28
  a 12... Is it 12?
• 17:31
  There's something like that age gap.
• 17:33
  Yeah.
• 17:33
  But she's graduating from BC this year.
• 17:36
  Oh my gosh.
• 17:37
  And this year is my 10-year reunion from high school.
• 17:39
  I love this for you.
• 17:40
  I don't know if anyone has Liberty information on the 10-year reunion,
• 17:44
  but I'd love to know.
• 17:45
  Oh, yeah. Please send it. Or you can just DM me, Dr. Celli, on my Instagram.
• 17:49
  Or what is your Instagram?
• 17:50
  Miguel. Miguel Angel Morales, my full government name.
• 17:54
  Perfect. He is looking to find Liberty of-
• 17:56
  If Liberty is having... Or maybe I have already started.
• 17:58
  Maybe I just might invite everybody.
• 17:59
  Maybe you're now the person in charge of scheduling this.
• 18:02
  Yeah, I just unofficially gave myself the job.
• 18:05
  Did you have a 10-year reunion?
• 18:07
  Oh, gosh. If I did, no one invited me.
• 18:11
  Oh, man.
• 18:12
  That's hilarious.
• 18:13
  Did you do sports in high school? Or were you kind of like-
• 18:15
  Yeah
• 18:15
  ... the cool kid?
• 18:16
  I don't want to self-proclaim cool kid, but like-
• 18:20
  Not cool, popular.
• 18:21
  I was homecoming queen and
• 18:25
  anything that you could be voted for- ... that was me.
• 18:28
  Not bragging, it's just reality. And then I played soccer, and I
• 18:32
  did cheerleading.
• 18:34
  Which one did you like more?
• 18:35
  Ah, soccer. It's more brutal.
• 18:38
  Yeah, you look pretty competitive.
• 18:40
  Thanks. Do I?
• 18:41
  Did you like more of the-
• 18:42
  I like that
• 18:43
  ... did you like more of the school events or the sports events?
• 18:45
  Sports.
• 18:46
  Yeah.
• 18:47
  Yeah.
• 18:48
  Throughout high school I did running.
• 18:51
  Okay.
• 18:52
  Cross-country and track.
• 18:53
  Okay.
• 18:54
  So,
• 18:55
  built for-
• 18:56
  Man
• 18:56
  ... going the extra mile.
• 18:57
  Yes. And look at these legs, okay.
• 19:01
  Meant for running, I see them.
• 19:02
  And
• 19:04
  yeah, and then that was my whole spiel
• 19:07
  throughout. I
• 19:09
  had maybe like
• 19:12
  four, five, six friends or so all of high school.
• 19:15
  But honestly, high school was a really, really good experience for me.
• 19:19
  It taught me just the value of teamwork, because I had my guys-
• 19:23
  Yeah
• 19:23
  ... my guys around me.
• 19:24
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:24
  And then we knew what the mission was. And there was...
• 19:27
  I mean, besides getting good grades and going to college.
• 19:29
  Yeah.
• 19:30
  But the mission was winning races.
• 19:32
  Yeah.
• 19:32
  And it's just like even though it's individual, it was definitely a team-
• 19:36
  Kept you out of trouble
• 19:37
  ... team. That too, yeah.
• 19:38
  Yeah.
• 19:38
  It definitely kept me out of trouble because I was
• 19:41
  bound to be a bad boy a little bit.
• 19:43
  You were like-
• 19:43
  I'll go 80 on the 70-mile freeway.
• 19:46
  Okay, sir. You need to-
• 19:48
  So I'm like, "I know"
• 19:48
  ... slow it down. Where's my shades?
• 19:50
  I'm going to-
• 19:51
  Okay.
• 19:54
  I'm not used to crying.
• 19:56
  All right, Miguel, I'm going to read your
• 19:59
  bio. It's super short.
• 20:00
  Sure.
• 20:00
  But,
• 20:02
  okay, just so people can know a little bit about you. All right.
• 20:05
  So Miguel Morales is a California private investigator,
• 20:09
  aspiring Norteno, did I say that right?
• 20:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:12
  Accordion performer and content creator documenting discipline,
• 20:16
  family life, fitness, and personal growth.
• 20:19
  His content centers around structure, work ethic, fatherhood, and
• 20:23
  building a long-term vision with balancing real-world responsibilities.
• 20:27
  Wow, what a bio you read.
• 20:29
  I love this.
• 20:32
  So do you still play the accordion?
• 20:36
  Yeah, that's definitely more just like an
• 20:39
  identity building
• 20:43
  after running, because running for so long, I ran for
• 20:47
  years, almost a decade. I guess that's not long
• 20:51
  compared to you.
• 20:51
  It's okay. I'm still running from my problems. You're fine.
• 20:54
  I'm still running.
• 20:56
  But when you definitely have, say you're a doctor, right?
• 20:59
  And let's just say the doctor got taken away, it's like, "Oh, man, I don't know.
• 21:02
  I need something to build."
• 21:04
  Oh my gosh.
• 21:04
  "I need something that is me."
• 21:07
  Yeah.
• 21:07
  And I had the baby and I became a father, which was awesome.
• 21:11
  But
• 21:13
  that's ever long. That's an ever-long-
• 21:15
  Yeah
• 21:15
  ... journey. And that's going to be something that is day by day,
• 21:19
  month by month, grows and grows. Because even just a year,
• 21:23
  my baby was like this, and now he's
• 21:26
  ready to apply for jobs and stuff. And that's how I see my
• 21:30
  accordion a little bit, too, because I got it in June of last year.
• 21:33
  That's my birth month. That was a-
• 21:35
  Wait, you just started playing this-
• 21:36
  Yeah
• 21:36
  ... in your adulthood?
• 21:38
  Yeah, I just started last year.
• 21:39
  Okay. That's rare and amazing.
• 21:41
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:41
  What inspired that?
• 21:42
  I
• 21:43
  just needed something to take my mind off, because I was working long hours,
• 21:47
  and on top of that, I'm trying to keep myself fit-
• 21:50
  Mm-hmm
• 21:50
  ... so I can protect my family if someone comes.
• 21:54
  Yeah. Totally.
• 21:55
  And trying to keep food in the fridge.
• 21:57
  I went to Walmart-
• 21:58
  Yeah
• 21:58
  ... the other day, and I bought just
• 22:02
  essentials for the bathroom, like soap and shampoo and tooth...
• 22:06
  You know those-
• 22:06
  Yeah
• 22:07
  ... essential stuffs.
• 22:08
  Essentials, yeah.
• 22:09
  That was like $120. I'm like, "Oh my God."
• 22:11
  Oh my gosh. You would expect better from Walmart.
• 22:14
  No, and it's just like as a adult and then father, and then people
• 22:18
  kind of relying on you, it's like, "Oh my God, do I got to start
• 22:20
  robbing banks?" I'm like ready to
• 22:24
  go to the underworld or something.
• 22:26
  Oh my gosh. Yeah.
• 22:27
  But it's definitely a bit... And with the
• 22:31
  accordion, I bought it as a self-present because it was my birthday.
• 22:35
  Okay.
• 22:35
  I had turned 26 and I was like, "Let me buy something for me."
• 22:39
  I love a self-present.
• 22:39
  And no joke, at the time, the accordion was
• 22:42
  $1,200. And at the time,
• 22:46
  that was like all the money in the world to me.
• 22:48
  Yeah.
• 22:49
  And I saved up for it, and I was like, "Let's do it." And I bought it.
• 22:52
  Why did you choose the accordion? Did you see something that inspired you, or was
• 22:55
  there a vacation that you're like, "That"?
• 22:58
  Have you heard an accordion in live?
• 23:00
  Yeah. And I'm sad that you didn't bring this.
• 23:02
  Oh, well, maybe next time I will.
• 23:04
  Please, yeah.
• 23:05
  We can do like a little... What are they called?
• 23:07
  Coffee tables or round tables, a live performance.
• 23:09
  Whatever you call it, I'm here for it. Let's do it.
• 23:11
  And-
• 23:12
  I'll bring my violin
• 23:12
  ... and the equipment here is all super cool too.
• 23:15
  Right?
• 23:15
  It'd probably make me sound a lot better than
• 23:18
  yeah. But it was just something, a self-project
• 23:23
  journey.
• 23:23
  Yeah.
• 23:23
  And it was cool too because I could see the progress
• 23:27
  with... I just started playing it, my baby's small, now my baby's
• 23:31
  big.
• 23:32
  Uh-huh.
• 23:32
  I recently performed at a quinceañera, which was-
• 23:34
  Oh, that's amazing
• 23:35
  ... super awesome.
• 23:37
  And they didn't invite me. They
• 23:39
  weren't like, "Miguel, we need your services to make this party lit." But-
• 23:43
  You just happened to arrive
• 23:43
  ... but I was there. Yeah, I was there.
• 23:45
  My accordion was in my car, and the
• 23:48
  vibes going. People are drinking a little bit.
• 23:51
  I just happened to have it.
• 23:52
  The DJ set is set up, and someone was like, "Do you have the accordion?" I'm like,
• 23:56
  "I sure do."
• 23:57
  Actually, it was even in the car. Stop.
• 24:00
  I was ready.
• 24:00
  It was like on you.
• 24:01
  It was right on the door, yeah. No, but I was ready for the moment.
• 24:05
  And then I just got up there, I played a few songs.
• 24:07
  That's how you do life.
• 24:08
  If you're not getting paid in cash, at least get paid in applause.
• 24:11
  And that was very well enough for me.
• 24:14
  Yeah. No, recognition and-
• 24:15
  Yeah
• 24:16
  ... visibility-
• 24:17
  And even-
• 24:17
  ... that is everything
• 24:19
  ... and it's pretty great because just like this, I was pretty nervous just to get
• 24:22
  on the mic.
• 24:23
  Why?
• 24:23
  Can you imagine there's a party of like, at least for
• 24:27
  me, 40 people or 30 people, which is a lot.
• 24:30
  Yeah.
• 24:30
  Can you imagine 40 people coming and trying to rob this place?
• 24:32
  That'd be a lot of people. I'm like, "Ah." You know?But there I am
• 24:36
  with my accordion, and I'm about to step on the mic and sing.
• 24:39
  I'm like, "What am I doing?"
• 24:40
  Wait, were you good yet? Or was it one of those starter intros where
• 24:44
  you're like-
• 24:44
  No
• 24:44
  ... I just have to rip the Band-Aid off, suck for a little bit, and
• 24:48
  then just... Was it bad?
• 24:50
  If they had tomatoes, I'm pretty sure they would've thrown tomatoes at me, and
• 24:54
  that's my family. That's family and friends.
• 24:56
  I'm pretty sure-
• 24:56
  Family's the worst
• 24:57
  ... I'm sure they would've.
• 24:58
  Oh, my God. Family's the worst. Is this recorded?
• 25:01
  I have some on my TikTok, but-
• 25:03
  You have to post and send.
• 25:05
  And then-
• 25:06
  Please.
• 25:06
  But yeah. I-
• 25:06
  I have to see this
• 25:07
  ... but it's definitely just
• 25:10
  give me time. That's all I ask for, just give me patience, give me some time.
• 25:14
  But I've always loved the... And then also, too, just the whole vibe of
• 25:18
  it. I
• 25:20
  haven't done it to the full extent yet.
• 25:22
  Pending.
• 25:23
  Oh.
• 25:23
  It will be done.
• 25:25
  Mm-hmm.
• 25:25
  But you get a full outfit, colorful colors.
• 25:28
  Yeah.
• 25:29
  Maybe a sombrero.
• 25:30
  Go all the way.
• 25:31
  And then-
• 25:31
  Why would you halfway do this?
• 25:32
  And then there's the party. There's the big party.
• 25:34
  Yeah.
• 25:35
  There's a section that just kind of sits and eats, they just talk mingo.
• 25:38
  Then there's the crowd that dances.
• 25:40
  Yeah.
• 25:40
  There's the crowd that's part of the
• 25:42
  fun.
• 25:43
  Yeah.
• 25:43
  And then there's this little group select of guys that are on the stage.
• 25:47
  And I used to be the one that just sat down.
• 25:49
  I would sit down, watch people dance-
• 25:51
  Oh my gosh
• 25:52
  ... and then I built up the courage to like, "Let me go ask someone to dance.
• 25:55
  Let me go dance."
• 25:57
  Good for you.
• 25:57
  And then I got pretty good. I think, not to toot my own horn, but I think
• 26:01
  I'm a pretty good dancer. And then when I was dancing-
• 26:04
  Like salsa?
• 26:07
  Like this.
• 26:08
  Okay. Is it a style of like-
• 26:11
  We dance
• 26:13
  norteño songs, which are kind of like fast songs-
• 26:15
  Okay
• 26:15
  ... in Spanish.
• 26:16
  Okay.
• 26:16
  There's corridos, which are a bit more like-
• 26:20
  ... a little more passionate songs.
• 26:22
  Okay. Like tango?
• 26:24
  You could definitely incorporate-
• 26:25
  Yeah
• 26:25
  ... tango. It's close sometimes.
• 26:27
  It's like a sexy dance.
• 26:29
  You could-
• 26:30
  Yeah
• 26:30
  ... you could make it. There's versions like that. There's editions like that.
• 26:33
  Okay.
• 26:33
  There's also just rhythm dances. You spin them around.
• 26:37
  It's a good time.
• 26:38
  Yeah.
• 26:38
  And then
• 26:40
  I saw the guys on stage, and I would see-
• 26:42
  Oh my gosh
• 26:42
  ... I would see how everyone reacted around them, and I was like, "Ah, let me start
• 26:46
  making the transition over there." And I'm definitely in the building phase when
• 26:50
  it comes to the accordion.
• 26:51
  Hey, that's brave.
• 26:52
  Thanks.
• 26:52
  You know what? You just saw your moment, and you're like, "This is what I want to
• 26:56
  do," and you just got up there.
• 26:58
  Sweating bullets-
• 26:58
  No, you-
• 26:59
  ... when I was up there
• 26:59
  Yeah.
• 27:00
  I was like, "Argh."
• 27:01
  That's everything.
• 27:03
  Yeah.
• 27:03
  To me, that's your yes. That's life saying check mark, yes.
• 27:07
  Yeah. And I remember-
• 27:08
  Because you cared.
• 27:09
  Yeah, I cared a lot.
• 27:10
  Yeah.
• 27:10
  And
• 27:12
  I think sometimes too, you just need to get up when you're not 100% ready.
• 27:16
  And I don't really think-
• 27:16
  You're never 100%
• 27:16
  ... anyone is ever really 100% ready
• 27:18
  ... ever.
• 27:19
  You know?
• 27:19
  I wasn't ready for this.
• 27:20
  Me neither.
• 27:21
  You want to play? Do you know how to play chess?
• 27:24
  Mm, I'm kind of a mess in chess, but if you want to pretend-
• 27:26
  Well
• 27:26
  ... if you want to play checkers, we could play checkers.
• 27:29
  Let's play chess.
• 27:33
  I just want to give you advice that I do not know how to play, so just-
• 27:36
  Perfect. I can murder you here.
• 27:39
  I'm curious-
• 27:40
  Just kidding. You guys, don't watch our game. Just look away.
• 27:43
  I'm curious
• 27:45
  to add, and I don't know if this is a personal question, but do you ever want
• 27:49
  kids in the future or potentially in your future?
• 27:51
  I do. Yeah, I do. So, I'm 42, and I am
• 27:55
  working on that.
• 27:57
  Ah. I definitely think-
• 27:58
  Yeah
• 27:58
  ...
• 28:00
  because if you don't take over the world, who's going to take over the world?
• 28:02
  Who's going to take over the world?
• 28:03
  And you and your little-
• 28:03
  So it has to be me
• 28:04
  ... baby Valerie.
• 28:05
  Yeah. It has to.
• 28:06
  Would you want a boy or a girl as your first one?
• 28:08
  I think a girl
• 28:10
  because I'm just super girly.
• 28:12
  Mm, I think that matches you a little bit more.
• 28:14
  Yeah. Right?
• 28:15
  Do you have any potential names?
• 28:18
  Oh my gosh. Good question. I don't know.
• 28:21
  That's such a fun question.
• 28:23
  I really like the name Kai. I don't know why.
• 28:26
  Oh, gee. You want to hear my son's name?
• 28:27
  Yeah.
• 28:28
  Makai.
• 28:30
  Stop.
• 28:30
  Yeah.
• 28:31
  That's so fun.
• 28:31
  Literally.
• 28:34
  Well, love that. It's okay. Justin
• 28:37
  upgraded us here.
• 28:39
  Oh my.
• 28:39
  But I run into it a lot.
• 28:42
  I'm not going to be invited back.
• 28:45
  Oh, okay. That's really fun. That's fun to know.
• 28:48
  How did you meet your current fiancé? That's pretty exciting.
• 28:51
  Yeah. It was St. Patrick's Day, and we were all wearing green.
• 28:54
  I had these cute little clover glasses.
• 28:56
  Of this year?
• 28:57
  No. This was 2022.
• 29:01
  Mm.
• 29:02
  I know.
• 29:02
  Shouldn't you be inside with a mask?
• 29:04
  What?
• 29:04
  In that time.
• 29:05
  No.
• 29:06
  No, COVID was just like, it was fleeting.
• 29:08
  We were like, "Eh."
• 29:10
  Crazy times back then, huh?
• 29:11
  Yeah. So I was actually a resident doctor, and so I was
• 29:15
  pretty much living at Kern Medical and just
• 29:19
  living the undream.
• 29:22
  You know, I heard-
• 29:22
  Working like a dog
• 29:23
  ... you know, I heard that during the whole
• 29:27
  COVID era-
• 29:28
  Mm-hmm
• 29:28
  ... a lot of the nurses, the ones that were helping the patients,
• 29:32
  now keep in mind, I forgot the source, and I don't know where the source is from-
• 29:35
  ... but I remember reading something like this, that it was because the doctors,
• 29:38
  they're not afraid of the sickness because they're just helping.
• 29:42
  They're not even thinking as compared to the-
• 29:44
  It's like you're impossible to avoid it, really.
• 29:46
  Yeah, and as compared to the patient-
• 29:47
  Mm-hmm
• 29:47
  ... they're in there with the mindset like, "Ah, I'm going to die."
• 29:51
  Yeah.
• 29:51
  And even the fact that you're saying all that is affecting how you're
• 29:54
  physically ill.
• 29:56
  Yeah.
• 29:57
  I thought that was pretty interesting.
• 29:58
  I'll tell you, there were several moments where
• 30:01
  even our attendings were called out sick
• 30:05
  because it did wipe out a lot of people from just either showing
• 30:09
  up or whatever.
• 30:12
  But there were a lot of moments where, "I'm sorry, I'm all that you have."
• 30:16
  The real doctors- ... I wasn't graduating yet.
• 30:19
  The real doctors are out sick.
• 30:20
  I'm doing my best.
• 30:21
  I'm
• 30:22
  all that you have. And so oxygen saturation, you
• 30:26
  really want it 89% or higher. So if you're on room air,
• 30:30
  awesome. If you're on a nasal cannula, great, 89% is
• 30:34
  the goal. Or if you have a face mask, great, 89% and
• 30:37
  higher. This lady was around 50%, and you start to lose
• 30:41
  brain cells the longer you keep somebodyBelow that
• 30:45
  89%. And so
• 30:48
  she was like, this one lady in particular,
• 30:52
  she couldn't really hear, and she's elderly.
• 30:55
  Mm.
• 30:56
  So screw all the PPE, what do you
• 31:00
  do? So I'm just yelling at her face- ...
• 31:03
  right here.
• 31:04
  She's like, "What?"
• 31:06
  Yeah. And I'm getting her consent for intubation, and so it's
• 31:09
  like, I don't know. What is the answer here?
• 31:12
  I'm like, "Your oxygen is really low."
• 31:16
  "You might die. I need you to focus."
• 31:19
  "Do you want me to intubate you?"
• 31:22
  It's like, I'm going to... I don't know.
• 31:25
  It's just like-
• 31:26
  I can't imagine the things you see in the hospital
• 31:29
  ... but like how could you not get it, right?
• 31:31
  If I'm going to get COVID, that was a great moment for it, because I'm right here,
• 31:35
  basically I'm in her face. She can barely hear me, and it's hitting
• 31:39
  my eyes, I'm sure. Because she's yelling back.
• 31:43
  So there's just moments like that where you're
• 31:47
  very exposed. So it's like, how much germ are we really
• 31:50
  preventing? I don't know.
• 31:52
  Mm. Where'd you, St. Patrick's Day?
• 31:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 31:54
  Was that at a bar, or?
• 31:56
  It was at a bar-
• 31:57
  Oh
• 31:57
  ... called a restaurant, if my parents are asking.
• 31:59
  In Florida or here in Bakersfield?
• 32:00
  It was here.
• 32:01
  Oh.
• 32:02
  Yeah, McGarry's.
• 32:03
  Bakersfield love. McGarry's. Oh-
• 32:05
  McGarry's
• 32:05
  ... what a great foundation for love.
• 32:07
  It's such a good foundation. It's the church of Bakersfield.
• 32:11
  My, and did you guys just hit it off from there and-
• 32:15
  Yeah, we did. We did. Yeah, and I think I was probably more the
• 32:19
  pursuer-
• 32:20
  Mm
• 32:20
  ... which is, I admit it.
• 32:23
  Was that different from your
• 32:25
  previous ones?
• 32:27
  Yes. It was.
• 32:29
  Mm.
• 32:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 32:31
  That's pretty great. You've been married...
• 32:32
  I don't know, you could cut this if you want.
• 32:36
  But you've been married-
• 32:37
  Well, like, mm-hmm
• 32:37
  ... you've been married, right? And divorced?
• 32:38
  Twice.
• 32:39
  Twice?
• 32:40
  Yes.
• 32:40
  My goodness.
• 32:40
  Yeah, but who's counting? It's just math.
• 32:43
  For someone,
• 32:44
  I guess like me, if someone who has a relationship, and we live
• 32:48
  together, we do a lot of things together, actually.
• 32:51
  The household has a pretty good rhythm.
• 32:53
  But with your experience, married twice, divorced.
• 32:58
  I can't even imagine the... That just sounds so stressful.
• 33:01
  It feels like-
• 33:01
  Like getting married, because you just get more people involved, and it's like, we
• 33:05
  can't come to an agreement.
• 33:06
  Oh, yeah.
• 33:06
  Why are we going to bring way more other people involved?
• 33:09
  Now we have laws that we have to introduce to all this. Now we want paperwork.
• 33:12
  It makes it very legal.
• 33:13
  And it's like, it just seems
• 33:16
  like not a relation. It just seems like-
• 33:19
  It kills romance
• 33:20
  ... yeah. It's like you're-
• 33:22
  Mm-hmm
• 33:22
  ... you're doing too much. But I understand from the girl's point of view-
• 33:25
  Yeah
• 33:25
  ... getting married and-
• 33:27
  Uh-huh
• 33:27
  ... the white dress and the ring, but I'm like, there's a day after that.
• 33:31
  You know?
• 33:31
  Mm-hmm.
• 33:31
  There's a daily life that happens.
• 33:33
  But would you-
• 33:34
  Are you asking why?
• 33:35
  Well, I was going to ask, would you recommend, on a scale of one to 10 now, with 10
• 33:38
  being like, "Yeah, get married."
• 33:40
  Yeah.
• 33:40
  And zero being like, "Eh."
• 33:42
  Where would you rank?
• 33:43
  My marriage scale is like,
• 33:47
  it's okay to wait until you know. And if that takes you
• 33:51
  years before you know, and you're at a six to
• 33:55
  10, if you're at a five, don't do it.
• 33:58
  Mm.
• 33:58
  If you're a five or less, don't do it.
• 34:00
  But if you're at a six to 10, I would say go for it.
• 34:03
  Dang.
• 34:03
  And-
• 34:04
  These, they could get degrees, huh?
• 34:06
  Yeah.
• 34:08
  Like a pain scale. Like I would give you your narcotic-
• 34:11
  Six, you're going to survive
• 34:14
  at a six
• 34:14
  ... out of six to 10. Certainty, but there's literally no guarantee.
• 34:18
  And I think my recent trip to Malta, which is
• 34:22
  where my family is from, really kind of put marriage into
• 34:25
  perspective for me.
• 34:27
  What happened?
• 34:27
  So, okay, marriage in America is really,
• 34:31
  it seems more about love
• 34:34
  and like-
• 34:35
  Marriage in America?
• 34:36
  Yeah.
• 34:37
  Okay.
• 34:37
  And more of like the Cinderella story, like, we're just
• 34:41
  going to live happily ever after.
• 34:42
  Oh, yeah.
• 34:43
  Right?
• 34:43
  There's no bills, there's no responsibilities.
• 34:45
  Yeah. We just love each other.
• 34:47
  There's no daily life.
• 34:47
  We love each other so much, and then we just get to have fun every day, and
• 34:51
  I just always love you and like you, which are two
• 34:55
  totally different things.
• 34:57
  Yeah.
• 34:57
  And so that's not
• 35:00
  real. That's not real. So anyway, my family in Malta-
• 35:03
  And the listeners, hear that?
• 35:06
  Yeah. Please hear that. So-
• 35:08
  It is not real
• 35:09
  ... it's not real.
• 35:09
  You is looking at some-
• 35:11
  No, you're really looking at like logistics-
• 35:13
  ... some artificial stuff.
• 35:15
  Yeah. So like it's really about your
• 35:19
  genes, your
• 35:22
  name, your family name. So do you want
• 35:26
  your... Who do you want to mate with?
• 35:29
  Which sounds so, in a weird way,
• 35:32
  not sexy, but I think it is so important, and that's the way the
• 35:36
  world seems to really view marriage and your
• 35:40
  offspring, and like what do you want for your children?
• 35:44
  How, like you're creating your heritage, your lineage, your
• 35:48
  legacy.
• 35:49
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:49
  So that is different. And so
• 35:54
  I just, yeah, it's not because of like a feeling of like love and fluffy and
• 35:58
  like... No, it is respectful, I think, in a sense
• 36:02
  to-
• 36:02
  Good job
• 36:03
  ... yeah.
• 36:04
  You're like honoring each other and you're acknowledging like, I respect your
• 36:08
  genetic pool.
• 36:11
  Genetically speaking-
• 36:12
  I will keep my mouth shut.
• 36:14
  I will not say what's in my mind.
• 36:15
  No, always say your mind, because the other person should be able to handle it.
• 36:20
  Mm. That's a good point.
• 36:22
  Yeah.
• 36:23
  Gosh. On a scale of one to 10, how spiritual are you?
• 36:28
  I'm, ooh, okay. This is a hard one
• 36:31
  because I do believe in God. I
• 36:35
  think spirituality is just proven to
• 36:39
  me on a personal level,
• 36:41
  and it exists within me, and it does
• 36:45
  move me and guide me in a lot of my decisions.
• 36:50
  And then there's some things where it's like, I don't know why I feel drawn to this
• 36:54
  person, but I have to just talk to them.
• 36:57
  And so, there-In a sense,
• 37:01
  I guess a six. I'm not like a 10 on a scale of a cult.
• 37:04
  Whoa. That makes the cut accordingly. Like a six or a 10, go ahead, get married.
• 37:08
  Yeah, it makes the cut.
• 37:10
  Yeah. You're just fair.
• 37:10
  Yeah, it means an action in a direction. If you're a five, figure it out.
• 37:15
  Stay over there.
• 37:15
  You're a gray boring zone. You're not my type.
• 37:20
  Well, do you
• 37:21
  go to church on Sundays?
• 37:23
  No, I feel allergic to church.
• 37:24
  Mm. It's okay.
• 37:26
  Yeah. Because I had excessive church growing up
• 37:30
  and-
• 37:31
  Like forced church on you?
• 37:33
  Yes.
• 37:33
  Ah.
• 37:34
  It was like, I'm not kidding, six days a week.
• 37:37
  Oh my God.
• 37:38
  Yeah, sometimes seven. And then my parents had a bed and breakfast.
• 37:41
  I'd be like, "I think he heard the prayers."
• 37:43
  I heard the prayer. I did extra for you-
• 37:45
  You done got-
• 37:46
  ... your family, your friends
• 37:47
  ... he has prayers on voicemail by me.
• 37:50
  And our church was five hours minimum. I'm not kidding.
• 37:53
  Oh my gosh.
• 37:53
  They would sing until they were done singing. When are they done singing?
• 37:56
  When they're done singing.
• 37:57
  No, when the sun went down.
• 37:59
  I was starving. I just remember I was a teenager and I'm like,
• 38:02
  "I'm so hungry. Can we go eat?"
• 38:06
  Make a mess.
• 38:06
  And then my family is like, "Well, church is not done." I'm like,
• 38:10
  "I can't."
• 38:11
  Is your family still like that? Like still churchy?
• 38:15
  Oh my gosh. I'm scared to even answer this.
• 38:19
  Mm.
• 38:20
  Okay. Yes,
• 38:22
  but my mom and dad go to different churches now, and so my
• 38:25
  dad, I don't know, I think he's Assembly of God, and then my
• 38:30
  mom, she goes to a Jewish church, and she's not Jewish.
• 38:34
  Are they in Florida or Bakersfield?
• 38:36
  Yeah.
• 38:36
  Oh.
• 38:37
  Yeah, they're in Florida.
• 38:38
  Okay.
• 38:39
  Yeah. What about you?
• 38:41
  I've been going to church for quite a
• 38:45
  bit. I want to say I started really
• 38:49
  on my own reading the Bible maybe a couple of years ago, even back
• 38:53
  when I was living with my parents and jobless
• 38:57
  and in their garage, I would still open up the Bible and
• 39:01
  I'm like, "What am I doing?"
• 39:03
  Yeah.
• 39:03
  And then I would go to church
• 39:07
  by myself, and I would just kind of sit in the corner and watch, and as soon as it
• 39:11
  ended, I'd leave. And
• 39:14
  then eventually
• 39:16
  I started taking my girlfriend after we got pregnant and the baby
• 39:20
  was born, and
• 39:23
  pretty much now, I think for the past since...
• 39:26
  My son's 15 months, and for the past since he's been born, I think since he
• 39:30
  was in the womb, he's been going to church every Sunday.
• 39:33
  Good.
• 39:33
  And as far as just like an invisible pillar,
• 39:37
  that's definitely part of my week is Sunday.
• 39:40
  Sunday's like no work at all.
• 39:43
  I love that.
• 39:43
  If you call me,
• 39:45
  don't expect a response unless we're doing-
• 39:49
  Hey
• 39:49
  ... "The Black Sheep White Coat" podcast.
• 39:54
  It's okay. We don't film on Sundays, so... Right, Justin?
• 39:57
  He's doing fun things and I'm doing non-work things, so we are
• 40:01
  so aligned.
• 40:02
  But going to church, I think it's definitely one of the key
• 40:06
  pillars as far as I think in any relationship or just something that kind of
• 40:10
  grounds you both-
• 40:11
  Yep
• 40:11
  ... and something that you can both say, like,
• 40:13
  "Can we both just
• 40:15
  agree that there's something bigger right now?"
• 40:17
  Yeah.
• 40:18
  And-
• 40:18
  Oh, I love that
• 40:19
  ... it definitely helps that we have a child involved because it's like...
• 40:24
  Can you just look at the child for one second and realize you can you just keep the
• 40:28
  boat afloat? Each other, god dang it.
• 40:31
  Don't look at me, look at him.
• 40:33
  Yeah.
• 40:33
  Don't look at me, look at him.
• 40:34
  But it's definitely really cool. I actually just got to meet the pastor-
• 40:37
  That's cool
• 40:38
  ... my last service this past Sunday.
• 40:40
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:41
  He was out in the lobby with us regular people.
• 40:45
  And then I was like, "Ah, I just want to say hi real quick.
• 40:47
  Good luck."
• 40:47
  Did you have the accordion?
• 40:49
  No, I didn't have the accordion in church.
• 40:50
  You need to have it on you. You need to play for the church.
• 40:53
  That's your next like step in life.
• 40:56
  That'd be pretty cool. "Hello, everyone.
• 40:58
  Let me bless you all real quick."
• 41:01
  Maybe a different word.
• 41:03
  I'm just kidding.
• 41:03
  But it's definitely kind of a cool...
• 41:06
  I was watching
• 41:08
  some other podcast,
• 41:10
  I don't know when but it was a couple of weeks ago.
• 41:14
  I don't know if your For You page is like mine or your algorithm is
• 41:18
  like mine, but
• 41:20
  you know, with the whole Epstein files and all of that being
• 41:25
  released-
• 41:25
  Mm-hmm
• 41:25
  ... and you're just seeing all these child
• 41:28
  trafficking
• 41:30
  operations go on.
• 41:32
  Yeah.
• 41:32
  And I was like, "Oh my God." And having a child now, too-
• 41:35
  Yeah
• 41:35
  ... just the thought of something like that being a
• 41:39
  possibility or real life is-
• 41:41
  Horrible
• 41:41
  ... gut-wrenching.
• 41:46
  Is your specialty in any of that as an investigator?
• 41:50
  No, I handle more regular cases.
• 41:53
  Okay.
• 41:54
  The most
• 41:56
  extent that I do as far as
• 42:00
  individuals is probably infidelity.
• 42:02
  Okay.
• 42:02
  And then but as far as like-
• 42:04
  Really?
• 42:04
  But as far as criminals, like hardcore criminals-
• 42:08
  Yeah
• 42:09
  ... let's build up to that a little bit.
• 42:11
  Yeah.
• 42:12
  But I was watching,
• 42:15
  it was like an agent, someone who actually went on a mission and they
• 42:18
  saved the kids.
• 42:21
  Wow.
• 42:21
  And the interview person asked them like, "Well, what do you think is the best
• 42:26
  advice you can do to prevent all this?" And
• 42:30
  he was like, "Well, it's going to happen.
• 42:31
  If a lot of people worked all day, it's still going to happen.
• 42:35
  The best thing you can do is really if you have a child or if there's a
• 42:39
  child near, the best thing you can do is just show them
• 42:43
  love and show them a warm
• 42:47
  chest-
• 42:48
  Yeah
• 42:48
  ... to grab onto. Show them a warm heart and show them what a-
• 42:52
  Safety.
• 42:52
  Yeah. Show them what a hug is. Because a lot of the people that were doing the
• 42:56
  crimes-
• 42:56
  Interesting
• 42:56
  ... as a child, they were in that situation.
• 43:00
  So now that they're adults, that's really all they've known their entire life.
• 43:04
  Just like teaching what a proper hug is and isn't.
• 43:08
  Well, it's mainly just the concept, not the specific
• 43:11
  instructions.
• 43:12
  Yeah.
• 43:12
  It's just more so showing a child love and safety-
• 43:15
  Yeah
• 43:15
  ... and like, "Hey, there's good people."
• 43:18
  Yeah.
• 43:18
  And the world's not crazy sick.
• 43:21
  Yeah.
• 43:21
  But it's definitely a scary thought to think that it happens.
• 43:25
  Like the victims of-
• 43:26
  Yeah.
• 43:26
  Yeah.
• 43:27
  Those are real stories.
• 43:29
  Horrible.
• 43:29
  But-
• 43:30
  Absolutely disgusting
• 43:30
  ... but the best thing you can do for your child is just to show them a happy
• 43:34
  home, show them-
• 43:35
  Mm
• 43:35
  ... a loving home. And
• 43:38
  that's definitely always on my mind as far as just, let me just be
• 43:42
  a safe space for my child.
• 43:44
  Yeah.
• 43:44
  Because eventually, he'll go out into the world and who knows.
• 43:48
  Which is, I'm sure, terrifying.
• 43:50
  Yeah, and even me, for my mother, I remember when I went off to college
• 43:54
  and went off and was like, "I'm flying off the nest.
• 43:58
  I got to go spread these wings."
• 44:00
  That's me. I was out. 17, see ya.
• 44:03
  But you definitely need that just, "Hey, this is
• 44:07
  home. I'm your father, and this is your mother."
• 44:10
  Yeah.
• 44:10
  "We love you, and we got your back," kind of deal.
• 44:14
  Aw, that's everything. Literally.
• 44:17
  But it's a scary world.
• 44:19
  Yeah.
• 44:21
  But I would not change it. I would have more kids if I could, if
• 44:25
  anything.
• 44:26
  Are you going to?
• 44:27
  I think so, yeah.
• 44:28
  Okay.
• 44:28
  I think
• 44:29
  when I'm on my deathbed, I think I'd probably have like-
• 44:33
  Why are you on your death... What happened before
• 44:36
  your deathbed?
• 44:36
  I transferred a couple of years. But I think in the future, I think I'd have a big
• 44:40
  family. I remember I visited Mex-
• 44:41
  What's a big family to you?
• 44:45
  I remember I went to Mexico a couple of years ago, and my grandma, I got my
• 44:48
  grandfather's sister. I got to meet her, and
• 44:53
  I was asking her, like, "How many kids you got?" She's like, "Well, I have 10." And
• 44:57
  I was like, "Oh, my God." And she's like 88 or something like that.
• 45:00
  Oh, my gosh.
• 45:01
  And I was like,
• 45:02
  "Hey, when you were having those kids, there's no hospital." It's a ranch.
• 45:06
  It's in Mexico.
• 45:07
  Oh my gosh.
• 45:08
  All you see is dirt and donkeys and chickens.
• 45:11
  And I was like, "Where's the hospital?
• 45:12
  You didn't go to the hospital?" She's like, "No, no, no, no.
• 45:15
  We just, in the backyard." I was like-
• 45:17
  ... "Why are you saying it like that?
• 45:18
  Why are you saying it so calm?"
• 45:20
  They made it tougher back then.
• 45:21
  And she's like, "Yeah, I just had my sister help me.
• 45:24
  She grabbed the baby. I just pushed, and there was the baby." And I was like,
• 45:28
  "I don't think that's how it's supposed to go."
• 45:30
  Oh, my gosh.
• 45:31
  Because my girlfriend, my mother, they're all in the hospital.
• 45:34
  They have doctors around them. They have tubes.
• 45:37
  Yeah.
• 45:37
  Professional.
• 45:38
  Yes.
• 45:38
  And then here we are in Mexico, just eh.
• 45:42
  Right?
• 45:42
  Like we're making chicken or something.
• 45:43
  Like it's nothing.
• 45:45
  But I would like to have a big family, hopefully.
• 45:48
  Yeah.
• 45:49
  I think it'd be awesome to-
• 45:50
  So 10?
• 45:52
  Yeah, why not?
• 45:54
  You're going to have to put a ring on it.
• 45:56
  How many kids would you want,
• 45:58
  potentially?
• 45:59
  One.
• 46:01
  Definitely one, I think.
• 46:02
  Yeah, I want one.
• 46:04
  If there were two, I can't even picture it.
• 46:07
  It looks like one going that way, it looks so hard. I don't know.
• 46:10
  I can't even fathom it.
• 46:12
  Did none of your previous husbands want kids? Or I'm surprised you don't have kids.
• 46:16
  They did. Yeah, they did. I didn't want
• 46:20
  their genes.
• 46:23
  Sorry, did it.
• 46:24
  They got you married then.
• 46:25
  Yeah, I know. But then I didn't think about it different.
• 46:28
  Then I was like, "Love." And I do love my partner
• 46:32
  now. It's just there's been a lot more thought that's gone
• 46:36
  into it than just what my thoughts
• 46:40
  were in my 20s and 30s.
• 46:42
  Mm.
• 46:43
  And yeah. Oh, I didn't finish. So when I went to Malta and I met a lot of
• 46:47
  my family, there's a ton of cousins and
• 46:51
  uncles and whatever. And so my-
• 46:53
  Malta, where's that at?
• 46:54
  It's right below Sicily in Italy.
• 46:56
  Whoa.
• 46:57
  It's a tiny little island. Yeah.
• 46:59
  Okay. That's pretty far away.
• 47:01
  It's really far. So it's in the Mediterranean, super
• 47:04
  random.
• 47:06
  But my cousin made this family tree, and if she watches this,
• 47:10
  I'm so sorry, but it did impact me. Everybody had like a...
• 47:14
  Okay, my mom's name is Valerie, so it's Valerie and Joe, and then there
• 47:18
  was three... It was like a tree. She did a family tree.
• 47:22
  And then my square, it was like everyone's square had their
• 47:26
  children of.
• 47:27
  Mm-hmm.
• 47:27
  And then it's like me, and then my square was dead, and it was empty.
• 47:31
  Add doctor in there.
• 47:32
  It was like-
• 47:32
  Add doctor in that square then.
• 47:35
  ... it was just like it stopped there.
• 47:37
  And I was like,
• 47:40
  it just was weird for me.
• 47:42
  Add "Black Sheep White Coat" podcast in the bottom.
• 47:45
  I cried. I was a blank square. I was just like, "Okay,
• 47:49
  so -"
• 47:50
  Yeah
• 47:51
  ... "I'm going to have a Yorkie, and he doesn't make the square?"
• 47:56
  Yeah, it's definitely different.
• 47:58
  I remember my uncle wanted to bring his dog for the family photo,
• 48:02
  and my grandma was like,
• 48:06
  "One photo. All right, take him out now."
• 48:10
  So crazy.
• 48:12
  Well, I'm definitely 100% I think you
• 48:16
  should get kids.
• 48:17
  Yeah.
• 48:18
  Like 10 out of 10.
• 48:19
  Yeah.
• 48:19
  I'm glad I got your advice, 06 out of 10 on the marriage.
• 48:22
  Okay, good. Yeah, and I think the logistics of it,
• 48:27
  you need contributors. I just am a believer in a
• 48:30
  contributor, so if you're showing up to a relationship, you need to
• 48:34
  show all the way up with like you're 100, they're 100.
• 48:38
  And if you have somebody who's trying to freeload or there's some other selfish
• 48:42
  agenda, it just doesn't work.
• 48:44
  Yeah. I think with anything, and even if it's agreed,
• 48:48
  if one person feels like, "I'm doing so much work,"
• 48:52
  and it's like-
• 48:53
  That's not a partnership
• 48:54
  ... it's a...
• 48:56
  But also, it's not very good, I think, to score keep,
• 49:00
  because the score-
• 49:01
  No, you can't
• 49:01
  ... is always just going to be never going to be even.
• 49:05
  Right.
• 49:05
  I think it's just having the bigger mission in mind.
• 49:09
  Yes.
• 49:09
  For example-
• 49:10
  Huge
• 49:10
  ... with my example, it's like whether it's with church or
• 49:14
  with the baby, let's just me and you take a step
• 49:18
  back-
• 49:18
  Mm-hmm
• 49:18
  ... and then seeLet's look at the main focus
• 49:22
  as a whole thing.
• 49:22
  Yeah.
• 49:23
  And I think as long as all parties have the same mission in
• 49:27
  mind-
• 49:28
  Yeah
• 49:29
  ... the
• 49:31
  exact strategy could be different, but as long as the mission is the same, I think-
• 49:35
  Yeah
• 49:36
  ... everything's going to be okay.
• 49:37
  I love that. And yeah, keeping focus on something bigger than
• 49:41
  you is, I think, the answer.
• 49:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:44
  So whether it's spiritual, whether it's the mission of the day,
• 49:48
  the mission of family, the mission of whatever, I think having that
• 49:52
  bigger vision and mission keeps things in
• 49:55
  perspective. And just thinking, like, "Am I ready to die on this
• 49:59
  hill?" "Is this the fight that I'm going to just cancel
• 50:03
  the family tree over?"
• 50:05
  Yeah. That definitely makes a lot of sense.
• 50:07
  Yeah.
• 50:08
  Do you
• 50:10
  have a big family, like your immediate family?
• 50:14
  So I have a brother and a sister,
• 50:16
  and my dad comes from a big family. So my
• 50:21
  grandmother on his side, she had, I think,
• 50:24
  15 or 16 siblings. It's insane.
• 50:28
  Oh my gosh.
• 50:29
  I know.
• 50:29
  From the same mom and dad?
• 50:31
  The same mom and dad. That's Malta.
• 50:33
  Is that possible? Is that legal?
• 50:34
  That's Malta. That's old world for you.
• 50:37
  Yeah. People back then were just popping them out like Pop-Tarts.
• 50:41
  It's crazy.
• 50:41
  Yeah. It's insane.
• 50:42
  And now it's just like one, two kids. Ugh, that sounds like a lot.
• 50:46
  It's like, we're not ready yet. Yeah.
• 50:48
  I think there's an actual decline in the population because many people don't have
• 50:51
  kids.
• 50:52
  Yeah.
• 50:53
  Do you have any nephews or nieces?
• 50:55
  Yes, I do. So my sister, who's younger, she has three,
• 50:59
  and I love her kids so much. I think they're awesome.
• 51:03
  Mm-hmm.
• 51:03
  So I'm the cool aunt.
• 51:06
  And then my little brother who's the youngest, he just had a son.
• 51:10
  So-
• 51:11
  Everyone's having kids.
• 51:12
  I know. So it's fun. It is
• 51:15
  cool.
• 51:16
  Aw.
• 51:17
  Yeah, but I think there's options out there.
• 51:19
  So I think science is... I's stepping into it at the right
• 51:23
  time, so I don't carry a stress about it.
• 51:26
  So I think if anybody listening to this does have a
• 51:29
  fertility stress and they're like, "Oh my God, I chose my career," it's like you
• 51:33
  didn't choose, life chose you. And so you're where you're meant
• 51:37
  to be, and so I know I'm where I'm meant to be.
• 51:40
  I'm not walking with the stress of fertility.
• 51:43
  Oh, my eggs, the time, blah, blah, blah. I think that's nonsense.
• 51:47
  I think the organic nature of it,
• 51:51
  the romantic part of it, maybe that part
• 51:55
  is less and it's more logistics, right?
• 51:58
  Like timing and all that stuff. But that's fine.
• 52:02
  I'm okay with it.
• 52:04
  Not everybody gets the Cinderella, perfect story,
• 52:08
  natural, whatever. And in your situation, I love how you described
• 52:12
  it, we didn't plan for it, but it happened.
• 52:15
  Yeah, and sometimes those are probably the best side main-
• 52:18
  Yeah
• 52:18
  ... quests ever, the ones you don't expect.
• 52:20
  And look at the joy. That is just really cool.
• 52:23
  So I think whatever the scenario is, it's like you're meant to
• 52:27
  be in it.
• 52:28
  Mm-hmm. And then you can also just give a good
• 52:35
  way to keep time because it's like he's a year now, and he's
• 52:39
  changed so much from day one to one year.
• 52:42
  Yeah.
• 52:42
  And that's very similar to how we are.
• 52:45
  Yeah.
• 52:45
  In one year, you could go from-
• 52:47
  Oh, I grow tremendously-
• 52:49
  To like-
• 52:49
  ... my milestones.
• 52:51
  Yeah. Do you have any
• 52:53
  2026 goals that you have left to accomplish-
• 52:57
  Hmm
• 52:57
  ... that I can know of, or are they private?
• 53:00
  Oh, definitely nothing's private. Not one thing. Literally not one thing.
• 53:05
  Yes. Okay.
• 53:09
  There's no end to me. I literally
• 53:13
  live for this. I live for goals. I love it so much that I
• 53:17
  need people that are more calm than me.
• 53:19
  Do you have a big vision board or something on the home?
• 53:21
  I don't make vision boards, but in my headspace, in my thinking-
• 53:26
  Vision brain.
• 53:27
  Vision brain. Yeah. Today I
• 53:29
  did a recovery cycle, which is infrared sauna, lymphatic
• 53:33
  drainage, and a cold plunge.
• 53:36
  And then, yeah, a sauna is like you're in this box, and it's
• 53:40
  190 degrees, and so I was in there-
• 53:43
  Just go outside in Vegas to experience that.
• 53:44
  I know. I know. I could. That'd be cheaper.
• 53:49
  But yeah, so I was sitting in there with my friend,
• 53:52
  Andrea, and so we were just like, "Okay, let's plan this wellness event.
• 53:55
  Let's book this date, and then let's go.
• 53:57
  We can have a local one, and then we can have..." We were just like, boom, boom,
• 54:01
  boom, hit, hit. So I live for that.
• 54:05
  It lights my brain up. It fills my soul.
• 54:08
  I just love it so much. So I don't
• 54:12
  feel like there's an end or there has to be
• 54:16
  any sort of... I don't know. I try to not live in a box
• 54:20
  of, okay, once I do this, then I'm done.
• 54:23
  Mm.
• 54:24
  Those words will never leave my mouth.
• 54:26
  So there's always something to tackle?
• 54:28
  Always. So, and really when it comes to my relationships,
• 54:32
  the people that know me and love me, they have to also just know that to be true
• 54:36
  for me. So either you love that or you hate it.
• 54:40
  Yeah, it's definitely... So your goals is just to be more,
• 54:44
  as far as the sauna, and more active with the cold plunge?
• 54:49
  No. So while I was in that space today, so
• 54:53
  while I was in there, I was just brainstorming because my friend was with me.
• 54:56
  So it's just one of those things where it doesn't matter where I'm at, even in
• 55:00
  the most relaxing spaces, I enjoy
• 55:04
  thinking about what are we building-
• 55:06
  Oh, your brain's just always-
• 55:07
  Yes
• 55:08
  ... like
• 55:08
  It's lit up. Yes. But that brings me so much
• 55:12
  life. That is me.
• 55:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 55:15
  And so that resonates with me and people who are also like
• 55:19
  that. SoAnd I've learned anybody who
• 55:23
  I've brought into my space that maybe is turned off by that or like, "Oh,
• 55:27
  you should really chill." It's like, "You should really leave."
• 55:33
  When you were in your 20s, was it always
• 55:37
  kind of like this?
• 55:38
  Always.
• 55:38
  Like just grrr.
• 55:40
  Yeah.
• 55:42
  Always, and I think it's good. It brings energy, but then also
• 55:46
  the people that can at least appreciate it, but then they're
• 55:50
  more laid back, I think they're good for me as well.
• 55:54
  Mm.
• 55:55
  So...
• 55:56
  Yeah, I think it's just a balance-
• 55:58
  Yes
• 55:58
  ... because you can't just be like that like all day.
• 56:00
  No. By myself, I'll drive myself to the ground, right?
• 56:03
  So having somebody who's like, "Hey, you should sit
• 56:07
  down."
• 56:08
  And I do. I'll sit down.
• 56:10
  Yeah.
• 56:11
  Or, "You should go on this vacation with me." "Okay, let's go."
• 56:15
  So that brings a really good balance for my
• 56:19
  personality
• 56:21
  because it's definitely, it's a lot.
• 56:24
  Yeah. Well, you could definitely tell. I love the studio, by the way.
• 56:28
  This is
• 56:29
  probably the most professional studio I've been-
• 56:32
  Oh, good
• 56:33
  ... been able to partake in.
• 56:35
  Good.
• 56:36
  When did you start the whole... Because I'm pretty early, right?
• 56:39
  I feel like I joined the wagon before it became the bandwagon.
• 56:43
  What is this? I'm in the first 10 episodes, right? Or something like that?
• 56:47
  Justin, do you know the answer to that?
• 56:49
  I think we're episode 13, so you're within the first half. Okay.
• 56:53
  Yeah, that's still like-
• 56:54
  Pretty darn close
• 56:55
  ... that's pretty, like okay, he was a real one back then-
• 56:56
  I love it
• 56:57
  ... before it turns into-
• 56:59
  Legit
• 56:59
  ... ah, you know the f**k, like I was there before it became hot.
• 57:03
  I love it.
• 57:03
  But I love it. I think the
• 57:06
  numbers are just
• 57:08
  bound to catch up compared to the quality.
• 57:10
  Yeah.
• 57:10
  Since the quality is up here and-
• 57:13
  Right
• 57:13
  ... eventually the numbers will just go like that too, and then-
• 57:15
  Yeah
• 57:16
  ... I'm glad I got to just be in the middle.
• 57:17
  Oh, I love it. Okay, so pick from our bowl of
• 57:21
  questions, and let's see what our final question is.
• 57:25
  Okay.
• 57:30
  Okay, this is pretty interesting.
• 57:31
  My question is cardio or weightlifting?
• 57:35
  Well, I came from a cardio, but I think both.
• 57:38
  If I could choose both, I think you should definitely incorporate,
• 57:42
  at least in the gym, because sometimes the gym's a little like, ugh,
• 57:46
  I just don't want to work out.
• 57:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:48
  Especially if you're working all day and you got
• 57:52
  kids, you got some outside activity you want to practice, like accordion.
• 57:56
  And then you still got to train, guys.
• 57:59
  Like accordion.
• 58:00
  You still got to lift, you still got to be strong.
• 58:03
  You got to protect your family.
• 58:05
  But I always start my... For the most part, if my legs aren't completely
• 58:09
  drained, I'll start with a 10, 15-minute run,
• 58:13
  because that definitely gets you sweaty.
• 58:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 58:15
  And once you see yourself in the mirror sweaty-
• 58:17
  Mm-hmm
• 58:17
  ... it's like, okay, let's work this thing.
• 58:19
  Yeah.
• 58:20
  And then
• 58:21
  30 minutes, 15 minutes-
• 58:24
  Of lifting?
• 58:24
  ... 45 minutes. Yeah, really it's just
• 58:28
  momentum.
• 58:29
  Mm-hmm.
• 58:29
  It's just consistency with the weight training and with cardio.
• 58:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 58:32
  Because you
• 58:33
  can't be like
• 58:36
  not train Monday through Friday and then let me run for an hour on Saturday.
• 58:40
  It's a-
• 58:40
  That's like an injury waiting to happen.
• 58:41
  Yeah. It'd be much better to run for 5, 10 minutes Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 58:45
  Thursday, and Friday than just one hour on Friday, and
• 58:50
  I definitely would incorporate cardio and weightlift.
• 58:53
  My answer is both. Both are important.
• 58:56
  Okay.
• 58:56
  And-
• 58:57
  It sounds like 60 minutes is your workout time.
• 59:00
  If it's a really, really good day, yeah, 60 minutes.
• 59:03
  Mm-hmm.
• 59:03
  But there's a lot of days too where it's like 15 minutes, and it's
• 59:06
  in the living room, just pushups.
• 59:08
  Okay, good.
• 59:10
  It was funny. Yesterday me and my girlfriend were having a little
• 59:17
  and I'd long day at work, like 12 hours, and I came
• 59:21
  back, and I was like, and it's like, ugh, my side, ugh, her
• 59:25
  side, ugh.
• 59:26
  And I was like, "Well, what could I do?" And I was planning on like, "I'm going to
• 59:29
  the gym because I need to decompress." And I was like-
• 59:32
  Yeah
• 59:32
  ... "Well, let me
• 59:35
  put on a workout video." And I don't know who this guy is. I forgot his name.
• 59:38
  But for 20 minutes, we were just doing air squats.
• 59:41
  We were working out, and I think that's a good couple-
• 59:43
  That's awesome
• 59:44
  ... quality too, just to do little activities like that and-
• 59:47
  Yep
• 59:47
  ... because you just need to stay active a little bit, especially with the little
• 59:50
  one.
• 59:51
  Yeah.
• 59:51
  And they're running around. They're growing. They're starting to get stronger.
• 59:54
  My son is pretty strong, especially when I try to brush his teeth.
• 59:58
  He's like-
• 59:58
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:00:01
  Pretty crazy.
• 1:00:01
  Did it change your attitudes?
• 1:00:04
  I think it just gave me more patience because-
• 1:00:07
  ... I'm telling you, my patience is, I have to pray like, "Please give
• 1:00:11
  me patience today."
• 1:00:13
  Yeah.
• 1:00:13
  And-
• 1:00:14
  Yeah
• 1:00:14
  ... because babies, and then even
• 1:00:18
  a grown female adult as well, you got to have patience for them as well too,
• 1:00:23
  and it's like-
• 1:00:23
  Absolutely
• 1:00:24
  ... it's just like this is my family. This is who I was given.
• 1:00:28
  Let me just take a deep breath and realize that
• 1:00:32
  there's a bigger mission.
• 1:00:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:33
  And like you said a lot earlier too, I think I gravitate more towards what you said
• 1:00:37
  on this side, with legacy.
• 1:00:40
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:41
  It's
• 1:00:43
  just having kind of what future and what environment you want to create for your
• 1:00:47
  child and-
• 1:00:47
  Yeah
• 1:00:48
  ...
• 1:00:49
  it was just yesterday, every day is kind of like a day by day battle, and every
• 1:00:53
  day is a little bit different, but yesterday I'm glad.
• 1:00:56
  Even during tense moments, my son got to see his mom and dad
• 1:01:00
  working out. He got to see-
• 1:01:01
  Love that
• 1:01:01
  ... his mom and dad having dinner together and-
• 1:01:04
  Yeah
• 1:01:04
  ...
• 1:01:05
  his mom and dad reading the Bible together.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  Mom and dad laying down and going to sleep with mom on my
• 1:01:11
  right, dad on my left.
• 1:01:13
  Yep.
• 1:01:14
  And here I am with my bottle, and then he cries, and I'm like, "Why you crying?
• 1:01:17
  You got a good life."
• 1:01:20
  You don't know struggle.
• 1:01:22
  But yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Well, keep in mind that the
• 1:01:27
  follicular phase and LH phase, the luteal phase is part
• 1:01:31
  of being a woman.
• 1:01:32
  Yeah.
• 1:01:32
  So if she is in her luteal phase, you might experience a little
• 1:01:36
  bit more irritability, more of a cat-like behavior.
• 1:01:39
  Oh, man.
• 1:01:39
  And then more like retriever and snuggly like around your
• 1:01:43
  follicular phase that is earlier in the cycle.
• 1:01:46
  So just keep that in mind as some fun, friendly
• 1:01:50
  relationship advice.
• 1:01:51
  Oh, man, those are like some Chinese words to me.
• 1:01:53
  Thank you so much, Miguel, for coming on. It was an absolute pleasure.
• 1:01:57
  Yeah, what a great time this was.
• 1:01:59
  And I think that's a wrap. Thank you guys for joining us