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Halloween Week: The Haunting of Horicon: The Tallman House · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Ladies, gentlemen, Vesendem's welcome to the third annual Halloween Week
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  Speaker 1: with Wicked and Grim. My name is Jacko and it
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  Speaker 1: is my absolute pleasure to return as the master of
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  Speaker 1: Ceremonies for over the course of the next seven days,
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  Speaker 1: we shall facilitate some of the most terrifying stories from
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  Speaker 1: the world of true crime and beyond. So I do
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  Speaker 1: hope you are ready to put your will to the test,
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  Speaker 1: as this is of course not for the faint of heart.
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  Speaker 1: For example, into day's episode, we journey into the unsettling
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  Speaker 1: story of the Tallman family, whose peaceful life took a
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  Speaker 1: terrifying turn when they brought home a seemingly innocuous bunk bed.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, it was.
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  Speaker 1: Anything but, as it seemed to be instead playing host
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  Speaker 1: to some terrifying entities. But before I delve too deep
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  Speaker 1: into the tale, I should refrain from divulging too much information,
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  Speaker 1: as Nicole is graciously taking on the role of educating
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  Speaker 1: us in the matter. So without further Ado, let me
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  Speaker 1: introduce you to your hosts. Ladies, gentlemen, theyse and MS.
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  Speaker 1: I give you the hosts of Wicked and Grim, Ben
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  Speaker 1: and Nicole.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, It's Halloween week yackles. That was one.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like Jacko actually makes it just sound like
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  Speaker 3: we're better than we are pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: I almost feel like he's like the ringleader, just like
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  Speaker 2: amping us up.
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  Speaker 3: Man it did ATMP me up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pump same, I'm stoked. And you apparently have a
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  Speaker 2: dope ass story you're telling today that sounds a haunted
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  Speaker 2: bunk bed.
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  Speaker 3: I know, really, this is this is bizarre. I'm actually
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  Speaker 3: a little bit shocked myself that I chose this one.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds interesting. It's not the true crime genre we
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  Speaker 2: can normally go with, but I mean, it's Halloween week.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna do whatever is spooky and awesome. Yes, also
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  Speaker 2: true crime.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know what Halloween Week means. It means we
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  Speaker 3: have a whole freakin' week that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: That too, can my mind immediately.
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  Speaker 3: Ben's already been through like a box of Canathy and
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  Speaker 3: he's just opened the other ones.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm also drinking margarita right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, it's kind of unfair because we usually
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  Speaker 3: record in the evening, and I think a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people probably listen in the morning, so they might not
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  Speaker 3: be rocking a margarita. But you know what, that was
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  Speaker 3: your job for today to rock a margarita.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't at some point, at some point, margarita,
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  Speaker 2: a virgin one, a double, don't matter drinking margarita.
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  Speaker 3: And it could any time any day of Halloween week.
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  Speaker 3: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't want it, that's cool too.
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  Speaker 3: Drink water could also be a virgin margarita. You know,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have to be alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: I already said that, Oh did you Yeah? Great minds
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  Speaker 2: think alike.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So we also promised that we would kind
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  Speaker 3: of share what's up for this Halloween week a.
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  Speaker 2: Bit of a schedule drop.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, So, like I said, we are going to
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  Speaker 3: have episodes from today until Halloween.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: We also have Fearful. Yep, Fearful is dropping once again.
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  Speaker 2: Fearful is dropping new episodes today. You can expect it
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  Speaker 2: to drop at noon Pacific standard time to day, so
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  Speaker 2: if you're listening early in the morning, might not be
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  Speaker 2: out just yet. We're giving you a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: brief time so you can listen to this and then
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  Speaker 2: rock that. But Fearful is dropping noon right now today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so if you haven't already listened to Fearful,
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  Speaker 3: it already does have five episodes out, so if some
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  Speaker 3: more dropping, and it is Jacko's podcast, so it's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: It's definitely worth a listen.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, so give it a search. So go
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  Speaker 2: do it Spotify, Apple Podcasts wherever you are listening right now,
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  Speaker 2: it's on the same platform. Just look up Fearful you'll
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  Speaker 2: find me. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: We also are going to have a merch drop yep.
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  Speaker 3: So we have one new design that's going to be
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  Speaker 3: coming out as well. We also have a Patreon exclusive
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  Speaker 3: Jacko re release of a design.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so the very first week we ever had our
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  Speaker 2: Patreon running, there was one week only this design was available.
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  Speaker 2: It's never been available again and never will be available again. However,
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  Speaker 2: we are re releasing it with different colors, so it's
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  Speaker 2: an alternate version of the original and it will only
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  Speaker 2: be available again for one week and then again never
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  Speaker 2: to be released right, which is very cool.
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  Speaker 3: We're also going to be doing a T shirt giveaway
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  Speaker 3: one that's going to be on Patreon and our social
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  Speaker 3: media's and then we're doing a live stream on Halloween
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  Speaker 3: with You'll have to tune in to see some costumes
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  Speaker 3: we're dressing up.
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  Speaker 2: We got some costumes we're going to be rockets. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to rock it over on Instagram are live, and
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  Speaker 2: then from there after a little while, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: move the live stream over to our Patreon to continue
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  Speaker 2: doing a bit of a live stream. Then yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: is that it? I think that's it. Hey, well we're
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  Speaker 2: doing seven solid days. Well yeah, And there's also because
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  Speaker 2: the thirty first is the end of the month, the
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  Speaker 2: Patreon is getting an exclusive episode again.
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  Speaker 3: And a bonus exclusive.
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  Speaker 2: And a bonus exclusive where we're actually going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about Jacko's backstory.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness, gracious, this is a jam packed week.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be good, almost real good. Almost as good
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  Speaker 2: as this margarita mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Or the mac and cheese that I made yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that was really good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben was just obsessed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it had bacon. Okay, it had bacon.
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  Speaker 3: Bacon and mac and cheese is so freaking good.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it's like spaghetti and meatballs. Okay, it just
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  Speaker 2: goes together, it does.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So I think, without further ado, we're ready to roll.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like literally like shaking him.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I actually I'm not lying.
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  Speaker 3: Like, look at this shit, you are You're really we're
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  Speaker 3: both pretty hyped up. Actually it might.
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  Speaker 2: Just because I'm cold from the margarita, though I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we need to like calm our tits
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  Speaker 3: a little bit and you know, just chill. Okay, Halloween
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  Speaker 3: is about chilling.
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  Speaker 2: We're breathing. We got this going to be fun, I know.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm like feeling pretty hyped up too, and I
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  Speaker 3: think it's just exciting. It is so cool that we're
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  Speaker 3: actually already on our third out annual Halloween Week. Like
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  Speaker 3: I never envisioned this, so it's very proud and exciting
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  Speaker 3: for us.
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  Speaker 2: It is like, like, let's take a moment just reflect
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  Speaker 2: on that. Three years of Halloween Week, three years of
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  Speaker 2: Wicked and Grim.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's so awesome.
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  Speaker 3: It just blows my mind still and it just like
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  Speaker 3: makes my heart feel soul.
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  Speaker 2: Full our little little spooky hearts, yeah, our black heart. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right, We've I think covered everything we need to cover.
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  Speaker 2: Just so you guys know if you do sign up
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  Speaker 2: for Patreon when we are always thanking our patrons, We're
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  Speaker 2: not going to thank patrons throughout Halloween Week, but we
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  Speaker 2: will on the next Tuesday episode, which I believe is
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  Speaker 2: Halloween day itself, the thirty first. That's when we'll thank
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  Speaker 2: any patreons that do sign up during the week, just
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  Speaker 2: so you know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so there we go.
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  Speaker 2: Other than that, I'm ready to get into this.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, okay, shake it off here.
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  Speaker 2: And Nicole's doing this one.
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  Speaker 3: It's not yeah, I'm certain it's off. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So it all began in May nineteen eighty seven when
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  Speaker 3: Allan and Deborah Tallman purchased a second hand bunk bed
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  Speaker 3: for their children.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha, gotcha.
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  Speaker 3: Bunk bed seemingly innocent, but it was far from it.
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  Speaker 3: What followed would shock not only their quiet town of Horricin,
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  Speaker 3: but the world at large. The Tallmans, which was a
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  Speaker 3: church going Midwest family, quickly found their lives unraveling in
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  Speaker 3: the presence of the bunk beds, setting the stage for
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  Speaker 3: a series of inexplicable events.
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  Speaker 2: That's a very strange sentence to say, in the presence
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  Speaker 2: of the bunk.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I know, I actually didn't think I'd ever be
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  Speaker 3: saying that sentence.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like something straight out of a Monty Python movie.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm not, If I'm being honest.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, the bunk beds, like, well, here you you
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  Speaker 3: can at the end tell me what your real thoughts,
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  Speaker 3: you know. Fair enough, okay, But first, before we dive
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  Speaker 3: into the story, I wanted to share a bit about
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  Speaker 3: the Tomans themselves. So the family consisted of five individuals.
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  Speaker 3: There was Alan and Deborah, which were the parents, and
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  Speaker 3: they had three children. They had a son and two daughters,
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  Speaker 3: the son being the eldest. The family lived in a
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  Speaker 3: suburban home in Horrican, Wisconsin, which they purchased the previous
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  Speaker 3: year in nineteen eighty six. And this home was their
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  Speaker 3: dream home, the home that they kind of expected that
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  Speaker 3: they would be living in for many many years. You know.
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  Speaker 3: They saved their pennies or like this this was their home.
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  Speaker 2: Good on them forgetting.
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  Speaker 3: That goal exactly. So Horrikin was a small farming town.
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  Speaker 3: And when I say small, because I think a lot
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  Speaker 3: of times when we say small, we think like our
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  Speaker 3: size of town. But it was approximately only thirty five
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  Speaker 3: hundred people. So that's like pretty small, yeah, And it's
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  Speaker 3: about the same size still to this day. The four
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  Speaker 3: year old home at the time had an estimated market
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  Speaker 3: value of fifty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: It was only four years old, so it's a pretty
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  Speaker 2: new build.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, which honestly that price Eggs, doesn't that
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  Speaker 3: sound so nice?
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  Speaker 2: Matt? We pay that for a car nowadays, Brandon car
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  Speaker 2: even more.
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  Speaker 3: Actually yeah, and I wrote that down. I was just like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh. So early in February nineteen eighty seven,
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  Speaker 3: Alan and Deborah were in search of a bunk bed
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  Speaker 3: for their girls. They would eventually find one from a
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  Speaker 3: thrift store that they did purchase, and while it appeared ordinary,
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  Speaker 3: it carried with it a dark force.
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  Speaker 2: There was a darkness to this bunk dark force, gotcha.
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  Speaker 3: The tom and family's troubles began almost immediately after the
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  Speaker 3: bed was moved into their home, and escalated once the
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  Speaker 3: bed was moved upstairs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm terrible because immediately when you're like, the troubles started
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  Speaker 2: immediately right in my head, I was like, oh, the troubles, PVT.
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to get it through the hallway.
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  Speaker 3: Oh oh man, That's when I got ready.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's probably the initial trouble, though I know
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  Speaker 2: that's not even close to the troubles you're referring to.
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  Speaker 3: Well, as far as I could tell, this bed did
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  Speaker 3: require some assembling. So they assembled the bed, so it
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  Speaker 3: was probably easier to bring into the house. They did
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  Speaker 3: assemble it into the family like in the family's basement,
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  Speaker 3: and they left and shored it there until May, so
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  Speaker 3: it stayed downstairs for a couple months, when it was
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  Speaker 3: then moved upstairs to be used. So the first noticeable
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  Speaker 3: change once the bed was brought into the home was
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  Speaker 3: with the kids and how they suddenly became ill for
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  Speaker 3: no apparent reason, which really isn't super like out of
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  Speaker 3: the ordinary, because I feel like kids kind of share
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  Speaker 3: their germs a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Kids are always getting sick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so a sick kid, I mean, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: is super questionable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not exactly paranormal or super parent supernatural or anything.
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  Speaker 3: But it was noted that the kids rarely ever got
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  Speaker 3: sick previously, So okay, it was rare, because there was
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  Speaker 3: even in one of the documentaries that I watched, like
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  Speaker 3: the mom had said in a given week she could
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  Speaker 3: have each kid into the doctor's office. So it was
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  Speaker 3: a lot, right, Like that would be a lot for
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  Speaker 3: mom to deal with. Yeah, that was just the tip
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  Speaker 3: of the iceberg. Though mysterious occurrences became an everyday or
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  Speaker 3: deal along with the children mysteriously falling ill. Things escalated
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  Speaker 3: as soon as the bed was slept in a clock
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  Speaker 3: radio switched channels by itself. This occurred to the sun
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  Speaker 3: and it was the night that the bed was actually
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  Speaker 3: brought upstairs. After his parents said good night to him,
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  Speaker 3: the clock radio in his room took on a life
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  Speaker 3: of its own.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit.
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  Speaker 3: He rushed to tell his parents that he saw the
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  Speaker 3: radio's indicator like it was kind of one of those
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  Speaker 3: old ones where you're like switching channels and you kind
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  Speaker 3: of see the line like moving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you actually have to like physically turn the dial. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you got like scroll through.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, So this radio's indicator was moving on its own,
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  Speaker 3: like on its own, and so he rushed to go
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  Speaker 3: freakin tell his parents what the shit was happening. But
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  Speaker 3: being that this seemed quite far fetched really, the parents
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  Speaker 3: didn't believe him, and they just kind of chalked it
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  Speaker 3: up to his overactive imagination, which I don't blame them
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  Speaker 3: for because that would be pretty weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I was expecting you to say, like it
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  Speaker 2: switched from like AM to FM, which is like generally
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  Speaker 2: as easy as a switch or a button, right, but
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  Speaker 2: actually scrolling through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so they actually actually just took the the
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  Speaker 3: like the clock radio away from him, kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, you know, you can't be playing with this,
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  Speaker 3: like it's your bedtime kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So the peaceful nights that the Tallman family once had
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  Speaker 3: turned into nightmares, as the children describe seeing a terrifying
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  Speaker 3: old woman with fiery eyes and hair and disembold body
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  Speaker 3: voices echoed through their empty rooms.
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  Speaker 2: Well fuck, oh no, all right, okay.
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  Speaker 3: And when the youngest daughter was sleeping in the bunk bed,
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  Speaker 3: she claimed that she had seen a red eyed witch
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  Speaker 3: behind her door. She also claimed that she saw fire
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  Speaker 3: in her room, like it was like the room was
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  Speaker 3: set on fire.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking like someone burned at the steak sort of
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  Speaker 2: things going on here. Oh my gosh, But I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand how that ties into a bunk bed. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: curious and what you have, what information.
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  Speaker 3: You might have. So the Sun was also not aware
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  Speaker 3: of like what the the youngest daughter had been telling
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  Speaker 3: the parents.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I just thought of something. Sorry, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what if it was involved in like a house fire
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  Speaker 2: or something. Okay, okay, I think all right.
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  Speaker 3: So the Sun was unaware of what his sister had
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  Speaker 3: seen and what she was telling the parents, and then
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  Speaker 3: he stated that he saw the same thing about a
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  Speaker 3: month later.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, like only shit. So they're corroborating each other's
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  Speaker 2: story without even knowing it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeap, So Alan the dad. His first incidence of weirdness
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  Speaker 3: occurred when he was downstairs painting the basement. So he
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  Speaker 3: needed a break. He was painting, you know, he went
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  Speaker 3: upstairs and he was going to have some lunch. But
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  Speaker 3: when he returned, and he was having lunch with his
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  Speaker 3: whole family. So when he returned, the paintbrush that he
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  Speaker 3: had used he placed normally, but when he went back,
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  Speaker 3: it was sticking out of the bucket of paint with
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  Speaker 3: the bristles sticking up. So the handle of this paintbrush
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  Speaker 3: was stuck into the paint can. Yeah, which is not normal.
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  Speaker 3: He wouldn't have left it like.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 3: You were just like staring at it.
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  Speaker 2: Sounded like there was something else you were gonna say.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I was waiting. I was like okay.
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  Speaker 3: And then but honestly, like ghosts or not, that would
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  Speaker 3: hiss me on that is a freaking mess and a half. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it is like I would just throw that paintbrush away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's almost there's me that could be slightly
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  Speaker 3: explainable still because like say, he just rested it on
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  Speaker 3: the top of the can and then there was like
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  Speaker 3: a movement of sorts and it fell inwards. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: so far, I'm like, uh, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you said he was in the basement and
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  Speaker 2: he went upstairs with quick.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so even like going up the stairs, right
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  Speaker 3: or something.
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  Speaker 2: Could send like enough jolt through the floorboards or something
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  Speaker 2: like that, or yeah, house, just enough to vibrate that
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  Speaker 2: and fall in or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, along with all of his kids' stories
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  Speaker 3: and stuff, like maybe there's something in the back of
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  Speaker 3: his mind already, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So the family was driven to the brink of despair,
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  Speaker 3: decided that they needed to seek some sort of help,
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  Speaker 3: and they reached out to their pasture with growing concerns.
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  Speaker 3: The pastor performed a walk through of the house and
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  Speaker 3: he two sents the presence of evil within this suburban home.
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  Speaker 3: He believed that they were victims of the devil. He
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  Speaker 3: was certain that a demonic presence was in their home,
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  Speaker 3: but he found no evidence that they were found advocating
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  Speaker 3: in the incident, so he was like he was believing them.
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  Speaker 2: I will say this though, I am generally very skeptic
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  Speaker 2: of let me say, a paranormal investigator, a pastor, anyone
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  Speaker 2: of that sort of type of role who comes into
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  Speaker 2: a home specifically to deal with a potential entity, generally
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: because they're getting paid to come in, or maybe not
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: even getting paid, but the expectation is they're going to
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: take care of a certain situation. Yeah, so they already
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: know ahead of time what to expect. So when they
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: come in a lot of time there's like a placebo
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: effect going on. Yeah, there might be a draft in
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: a door or something. They're oh, cold spot demon, you
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like little things like that where
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: they're not even realizing it. Yeah, And these sort of
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: things can feed on just an imagination.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: It's like when you have a session with a psychic,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: you're not supposed to divulge any information high or to
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: or whatever.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Because then it can be fed off of and then
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: you can just to snowballs.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So he went about blessing their house's good. Yes,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: he did go about blessing it. So, however, even this
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: could not quell the relentless activity that had taken hold
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: of their lives. The hauntings they were experiencing did not subside.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Damn good writing that cannot quell it? Yeah, hell yeah
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: could shot on that. That was dope.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I know that's a cool word. Actually, I want to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: start using it on a daily basis. So a week
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: before Christmas, the Sun once again saw something horrifying and
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: told his mother that he wanted to leave. Like, imagine
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: just your kids saying like you don't want they don't
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: want to live in their home anymore. Like that's that's
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: got to be kind of a gut punch, in my opinion.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: The dream home that you've been saving up for.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Yeap. So frustrated, Alan lost his cool, like he was
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: just done. He started screaming at the top of his
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: lungs in the living room. He told the spirits to
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: leave his children alone and if they were looking for
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: a fight, that they needed to fight him.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Shit.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And when I was kind of reading that and
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: writing this, I was like, what a sight that would
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: be as a child to see your dad doing that. Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I mean like I just feel like that would just
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: be something that you would just never forget, Like your
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: dad just freaking out and like yelling at these evil
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: spirits in your house.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's like a superhero moment. Though generally speaking,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of kids look up to like a parental figure,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a guardian, or someone who's looking after him, like bigger
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: than them, like almost like they're invincible. Like, you know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I stub my toe where I fall and scrape many
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: in the playground. I cry my dad, you know he
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: falls or something. He doesn't cry. Yeah, And then it's
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: like I have this thing that I don't know what
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: it is, terrifying me.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: And he's not scared.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the monster under the bad sort of thing. Yeah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and he's sitting here, fuck off, leave my kid alone.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Want to fight fight me? Fight me? Yeah, Like holy shit.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I know, but I just I justn't thinking like this
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: small kid just staring watching their dad, like it's just
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: seeming alarming.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: It would be alarming, don't get me wrong. But I
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: also think it would kind of be a harrowing experience
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: at the same time, and I think it'd probably be confusing.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: They'm not too sure how to process it either.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's very odd. But yeah, so he wanted
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: them to fight him, and that's just what happened on
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: January nineteen eighty eight. Alan returned home from work. He
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: was working like a late shift, so he arrived home
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: at about two in the morning. Outside the grat the garage,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: he heard an eerie howling sound, so we went to investigate.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: The howling kind of just continued and it kind of
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: got louder, and then a voice came out of the
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: howling and said, come here. Oh shit, Like, there's no
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: fucking way that I would be going there. There's like
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I don't care. But he went around the house to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: see if anyone was there, but there was no one.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: When he went back to the front of the house,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: he saw that there was like a glow coming from
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: his garage and his garage was actually on fire. Fuck,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: so he rushed inside. He was like scared shitless, right,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: so rush inside and he locked the door behind him,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: And I don't think he was even comprehending what he
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: just saw or heard. But then after a moment he realized, like, shit,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: my garage is on fire. So he went back outside,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: only to find that the fire was out and there
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: actually hadn't been a fire at all. The garage door
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: was undamaged, like it never even happened.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: What the fuck? Yeah, yep, this is a fucked up
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: bunk bed.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: When he went back inside, he went to reach for
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: his lunch box that he had set down, but it
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: was viciously thrown out of it his hands and across
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: the room. Like I'm sorry, but at that point I
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: would be like fuck this shit, like I'm out of here.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no one fucks with my lunch right.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Like your lunch box just being like thrown and your
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: garage being on fire. But it actually wasn't. Like I
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think I would stay there.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine being in that position, really questioning his
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: own sanity totally, because like I just imagine this thing
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and then this other violent act happens. Well, what I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: must have thrown it, you know what I mean?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Because you would be making up things oh down in
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: your head for sure.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: And it's also way easier said to leave a house
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: like that has probably the majority of your equity, Like,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: it's easier said than done. You can't just like you
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: own this house, you can't just leave, yeah, because where's
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: what are you? You can't buy something else kind of
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: thing most likely, right m hm. So after the garage
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: on fire, incident the family. They did remain in the house,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: but Alan started sleeping and his daughter room to provide
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: protection and help them fall asleep, since at this point
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the whole family was kind of traumatized. One night, though,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: as Alan was laying in his daughter's room, he started
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: to notice a fog appearing on the floor and around him,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: kind of surrounding him. He then heard a voice out
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: of the fog that said, you're dead.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: What the fuck? Yeah?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So he kind of raced into the room. He
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: was just freaked right out. He wasn't explaining to Deborah
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: what the fuck had just happened, so she then called
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the pasture because of you know, he was like pretty
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: much like in tears and very shaken up. But that
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: was that they stayed there. A few days later, Alan
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: was working late and asked a relative to come to
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: the house and take his role of keeping the two
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: girls company as they fell asleep. This relative, I think
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: it might have been like his brother, but I'm not certain,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: but he was kind of going to sleep in the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: girl's bedroom and you know, make sure they fell asleep,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: And he was a skeptic, like he didn't he thought
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: all this was just like bogus. This wasn't happening, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: it would be very hard to believe. Like I feel
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: like if my like, I believe my sister and stuff
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: when she's speaking to me, but if she was telling
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: me this, I would have trouble taking it totally seriously, lay.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Off the wine, like come on, yeah, I totally gotcha. Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Well, that night he was no longer a skeptic because
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: the same horrible figure that was often seen by the
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: children appeared and he let out a loud scream. Deborah
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: then told the relative grabbed the girls were leaving this
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: house and we're never coming back. That yeah, because I
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: kind of think it was more Alan. I was like, no,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: like you, no, we got to stay like this is
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: our home kind of thing.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's kind of different like when you're in
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: your own little family, your own little tight knit community group, whatever,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you think someone in five six people in the same
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: office experiencing something, you think, well, we're just seeing something,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: we're just not seeing an outside perspective, and then when
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: someone else from that outside perspective sees it too, it
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: almost offers that token of reality that holy shit, this
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: isn't just us going nuts, it's actually happening.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Well, and then the father to Alan, he was probably
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure he was taking on like the
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: protector role, right, So it's like I can deal with this, like, well,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: we're going to make this work, Like we'll figure it out.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: So news of the bizarre happenings quickly spread through Horcon,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: turning their once quiet neighborhood into a chaotic hub of
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: curiosity and fear. The police and investigators search for any
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: signs of a hoax, hidden recorders or projectors, but their
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: efforts you to yielded no explanations. Despite being initially skeptical,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Horrorcon police chief became convinced that the Talmans had truly
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: experienced the terrifying phenomenon they described. The Talmans were beset
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: by unwanted attention as a result of earlier ghosts hysteria,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: which they did not seek. They had actually turned down
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: a lucrative tabloid offer about their experience, as they did
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: not think it was right to make any money of
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: their children's kind of misfortune. Exactly, so, the Talmans agreed
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: to share their story with Unsolved Mysteries under three conditions.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Their faces were censored during the interview. Their children's names
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: were to be predicted by alias, and that all re
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: enactments of their experience be done by actors playing the
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: family and not them themselves. So this episode it actually
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: aired on Unsolved Mysteries on October twenty six, nineteen eighty eight. Damn, yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: like so long ago. I actually watched it. I just
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: freaking love that show, to be honest.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm curious. How do they know it was connected
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: to the bunk beds specifically.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: We'll let me just kind of.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Coincides with the coming in. Oh, you've got yeah, there's.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: A little bit more here, and then we'll discuss everything.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: So the Talman family or deal continued for nine long
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: months before they finally fled their home during a bitterly
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: cold Wisconsin winter. Two weeks later, the Talmans had the
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: bunk beds destroyed, so they took it to this place
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: that got destroyed and it was buried. They've had no
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: further paranormal experiences, and a new family has actually now
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: moved into their old home and has also had no
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: haunting experiences, and prior to the bunk bed being brought
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: into the home, they had had no prior experience.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I see gotcha? Okay, okay.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: So, with the haunting chapter of their lives behind them,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: the Tallman family sought to move forward, leaving their haunted
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: past far behind. The mystery of the Taman House in Horgan,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Wisconsin remains unsolved. Despite various investigations and extensive media coverage.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: The exact nature of the force that tormented this family
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: remains a mystery. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: the story of the Tallman family serves as a chilling
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: reminder that the unknown can encroach upon the most ordinary lives,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: leaving a lasting mark on those who experience it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Damn. Yeah, I'm almost certain that there had to have
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: been a fire or something involved with this bunk bed previously.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I honestly do see I'm a little bit of
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: a skeptic, so I'm not gonna lie. And I do
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: find it very odd that like a piece of furniture
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: or can bring so much into your house.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: You know, Well, what makes a piece of furniture any
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: different than say a doll, Say Robert the doll. What's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the difference? Yeah, they're both inadamate objects. I guess one's
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: just built to look human in some sort of way
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: with a face and arms. Yeah, that's it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it could literally just be too that
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: it was like a coincidence, right, that this kind of
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: got brought into the house. There's actually something I need
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: to look up here that I forgot to mention, but
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: that this got brought into the house just at the
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: same time that a spirit or evil presence did.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: It's possible, but I mean that doesn't explain it leaving
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: at the same time too, especially with being so aggressive
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: like that. You know, Yeah, that doesn't make sense because
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: if it was that aggressive and just a random item
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: is brought left like there's no reason for it to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: leave too, you'd think it would continue with its aggression
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: and it would continue haunt to continue being like you're
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: fucking dead.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. And the fact that it just kind
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: of ended, okay, but there was Yeah, there's one line
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: here I actually forgot to put in. So the Tallment
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: House activity was described in greater extent in the book
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Haunted America by Michael Norman and Best Scott, but at
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: no time in their research they link the hauntings to
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: a bunk bed. The activity is instead linked to the
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: property as being located on or near a former Native
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: American burial grounds. That's a quote from this article.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, so they're that article is saying it's not the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: bunk bed.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but then for the family that moved in after
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: to have like no issues.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: So let's assume for a second that that our article
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: is true. Okay, that bunk bed served as some sort
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: of means, as maybe a portal or way of communication
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: to open up. So what is so special about that
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: bunk beet still, because while that bunk bed was there,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the hauntings occurred, and while it was gone it stopped.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: So sure might not be directly related to the bunk bed,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: but that bunk bed correlates and might be a piece
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: of the puzzle still.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: But it was also more because I don't necessarily know
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: what the illnesses like. I think that could just be like, oh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: there's a lot going on, and the kids kept spreading
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: it back and forth to each other. But it was
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: when the bunk bed was moved upstairs and when it
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: was had been slept in when it was being used.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not too convinced with something like you say,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: kids getting sick. However, when you see a mysterious fire
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: in a witch with fiery eyes and fog rolls in
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: saying I'm gonna kill you. Yeah, that sounds paranormal to me.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Kids getting sick just sounds like kids getting sick.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: But it's very odd that the bunk bed was downstairs
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: for months and there wasn't really any issues until it
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: was brought upstairs and slept in. Like, that's weird to me.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: That seems a bit weird.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Kind of going back on what I said, is like
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the bunk bed serving as almost like a means of
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: like a portal opening up. Think of it as I
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: don't know if anyone out there remembers, we might be
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: aging ourselves here. But rabbit ears and a television an
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: antenna right, that antenna is not in the right position.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Guess what, you don't get reception on your TV you
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: bend the antenna into the right spot. Oh shit, you
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: now get your TV show. Stuff can come through. Yeah,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: this specific bunk bed material history, who knows what in
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the right position may have caused the conditions for this
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: to come through.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just a bizarre story. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: so bizarre and honestly to imagine, like just how on
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: edge this family is going to be for basically the
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: rest of their lives.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Really, like, I don't know how you could just go
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could go on living a normal life totally,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: but in the back of your mind, you you'd kind
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: of be, oh, my gosh, because this evil spirit going
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: to find us again.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're certainly not going to go to any
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: airbnbs with bunk beds.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, you would never never, ever, ever buy another bunk
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: bed in your whole entire life.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: And that would probably just continue on down the line,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: like with your kids and then their kids. There were
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: just never any bunk beds purchased by that family.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Hundreds of years later, you just have this giant clan
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: of like half the world that's just like bunk beds
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: are evil.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Wow, good job. That was an interesting story. I've never
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: heard of a haunted bunk bed.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: No, No, it was bizarre.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah you can say that. Huh.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting research though.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Where did you find this case?
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I think I had just googled like kind of Halloween
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: spooky themed episodes. This one isn't I mean, it's spooky,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I guess, and then it are rare ones or something,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: and it came.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Up okay, huh so, yeah, yeah, well, good job. That
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: was definitely an episode to open up Halloween Week with,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: for sure, because what.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: You consider, what do you think twice now before you
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: ever had to buy a bunk bed.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I personally just don't like bunk beds to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: start with. But I don't think it would deter me
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form other than I've been
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: deterred already.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: When we were in Tafino in March. Yes, remember our
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: airbnb had a bunk bed and the dogs were obsessed.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: They slept on there.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: No, it didn't know that, No, the dogs didn't.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, never mind, no dogs on the bunk beds.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, the dogs they slept on the bottom
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: of the bunk bed. They curled up together and they
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: loved it. It was so cute. It was to be fair,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: we laid down towels and yeah, we brought.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Their blanket and laid it down there.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was all good. Wow. Halloween Week Episode
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: one is that the wraps? Yeah, good job, round of applause,
• 34:47
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• 34:50
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• 34:52
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  Speaker 2: get some of the other stuff that's coming out this
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: week for Halloween Week, like maybe the live stream on Instagram,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: maybe the extra episodes and stuff coming out, or the
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: exclusive one week only available Patreon merch with Jacko. Yeah yeah,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: all the links for that stuff are there. But if
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: you just want to stick around for Halloween Week, just
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: regular that is so.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Cool too, And remember to tag us or post a
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: story of you drinking a margarita this week.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Make sure we get those margarita pictures because we want
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: to see it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I want to see it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I want to save all the ones and see if
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: we can, like just put up a clause or something
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: like that. That'd be cool.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Oh that'd be so fun. Yeah yeah, Okay, Well, now
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I can relax a little bit. I don't know, I
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: put a lot of pressure on myself for the first episode.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: For day one.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Gosh, you did good. Next year, I'm not picking day one.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I was thinking.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: You did good, kid. You even use the word quell
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: in there and that was fantastic. I loved it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, we are expanding our vocabulary here, definitely.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I guess the pressure is on for me
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: now to follow that up with something awesome tomorrow. Yeah.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I can't freaking wait.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Me too, because I still got to finish off some
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: research for it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: So we'll get on it. Okay.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna fish my margarita and go go do that,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you tomorrow in day two of
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Halloween week. And until then, Oh, you're not saying it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be like, start picking your margarita. You're so odd.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I took a sip really quietly. I did good.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: You just sat there watching me wicked.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Well done,