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- 0:09Tom, you've been a player and a coach in both the minor and the major leagues.
- 0:13Now you're manager of the Dodgers. Just when did you first start playing baseball?
- 0:18As an amateur, I started playing when I was about seven years old.
- 0:21Playing on youth teams throughout our communities and then getting onto better ball clubs
- 0:29and finally into schools. Of course in those days we did not have little leagues or American legions
- 0:34so we had to play on neighborhood teams.
- 0:37Now you say you played on neighborhood teams. Did you have any games that you played maybe by yourself
- 0:41to work on your own baseball skills?
- 0:43Oh yes, I used to have a stick and I would throw the ball up in the air and I would hit the ball
- 0:48and I would throw the ball against the sidewalks or against the walls and practice my fielding.
- 0:54I did everything I could to practice without, you know, sometimes you're alone and you throw the ball up in the air
- 1:02and throw it up as high as you can practicing catching fly balls.
- 1:05You throw it against a wall or a building to catch ground balls and then you take a stick or a bat
- 1:10and you throw a ball up in the air and you hit it and you go chase it.
- 1:13So actually you were accomplishing something when you were alone.
- 1:17Tom, let's talk a little bit about the various positions on the field.
- 1:20Can you tell us a bit about what you have to do to play that position and what kind of skills are necessary?
- 1:26First of all, talk about the outfield, right field, center field, left field.
- 1:30Well, I think most important you have to be on the balls of your feet.
- 1:35You have to be in a position to where you can move quickly.
- 1:38You have to keep your eye on the barrel of the bat, which will allow you to pick up the ball coming off the bat sooner.
- 1:45And of course you have to be completely ready to move at all times,
- 1:51having your weight distributed on both feet equally and having your body in a position
- 1:57where you can go to your left by using the crossover step or to your right by using the crossover step.
- 2:03You also have to be able to charge ground balls.
- 2:06When you're an outfielder, you must feel and believe that you're an infielder playing deep.
- 2:12Tom, when you play the outfield, you have to have a pretty good arm.
- 2:15Now, is the long overhand throw an important skill for young outfielders to develop?
- 2:20There's no question about it. I think a lot of youngsters make the mistake when they start throwing,
- 2:24they throw the ball sidearm, which of course doesn't help them.
- 2:27When you're an outfielder and you're throwing the ball to a base, naturally you would want the ball to carry.
- 2:34So by throwing the ball overhand and across the seams,
- 2:38you would get more carry on the ball rather than throwing the ball sidearm.
- 2:42In other words, if you have a sidearm pitcher on the mound and he throws the ball from the side,
- 2:48the ball will have a tendency to sink.
- 2:50The three-quarter and overhand pitcher throwing the ball will have carry on the ball.
- 2:56So this is what all outfielders should practice.
- 2:59And another thing that I think that they should do is that when they are warming up,
- 3:04try to get as far away from each other as they possibly can.
- 3:08Because what happens when a youngster starts warming up, he warms up maybe about 30 or 40 feet away,
- 3:14then he has to go into the outfield and he has to make a long throw.
- 3:17His arm is not prepared, it's not strengthened enough to make that long throw.
- 3:22So practice throwing the ball as far away from the other guy as possible.
- 3:26Now when you do get in the outfield, your arm will be a lot stronger.
- 3:31Tom, let's move from the outfield to the infield positions and we'll go to third base first of all.
- 3:36What skills does it take to be a good third baseman?
- 3:39Third base, unlike shortstop or second base where you have to have a great deal of range to play that position,
- 3:44you have just a limited amount of ground that you have to cover.
- 3:47And the quicker you are, the better third baseman you're going to be.
- 3:51So it takes quickness from your upper part of your body up to be able to play third base.
- 3:57He has to look at a certain zone of the batter.
- 4:01In other words, if the ball is away from a right-hand hitter, there's no way he can hit it to third base.
- 4:06He would be hitting it to the opposite field.
- 4:08So he has to concentrate on just in the zone where that bat will come around and hit the ball to him.
- 4:14How about the shortstop?
- 4:16Well, shortstop naturally is the toughest position to play as far as I'm concerned on the infield.
- 4:21You have to have a great deal of range.
- 4:23You have to have the ability to throw the ball from all different positions.
- 4:28And you've got to be very, very quick.
- 4:30You've got to be very agile.
- 4:34And this is a position that requires a great deal of work.
- 4:39You have to have the weight evenly distributed on the balls of your feet.
- 4:43You have to have your body in a position where you can charge a ground ball at all times.
- 4:48You have to keep your eye on the ball coming off the bat.
- 4:51So what we try to teach our infielders and above all shortstop, as I said before with the outfielder,
- 4:56keep your eye on the barrel of the bat.
- 4:59Tom, let's talk about playing second base.
- 5:01Now, do you have to have a good throwing arm to play second?
- 5:04Well, it is important because of the fact that you're mostly on the other end of the double plays,
- 5:08the pivot man, we call him.
- 5:10He's going to be quick to get out of the way of the oncoming runner.
- 5:13If he concentrates on the sound of the footsteps coming towards him,
- 5:17many times he will throw the ball wild because of the fact that he's looking at the runner
- 5:21rather than looking at the base that he's throwing the ball to.
- 5:24He has to make that runner unaware of what direction he's going to go in when he throws the ball to first base.
- 5:31In other words, if he makes the double play one way all the time,
- 5:35then the runners will know what direction he's going in when he takes the ball from the shortstop or the third baseman.
- 5:41He has to have maneuverability, and he's got to be able to do it in different ways.
- 5:45Once he eliminates the fact that the runner knows where he's going to go,
- 5:49now his chances of getting hit are less.
- 5:52He has to be quick.
- 5:54He has to have an arm that what we think he has to have great forearm velocity.
- 5:59He cannot throw with the full extension of his arm.
- 6:02In most cases, he has to use a forearm flip.
- 6:06What about playing first base?
- 6:08First base is basically the same as third base,
- 6:11but the only exception is that he handles most of the throws.
- 6:15He has to be a guy that has to have good hands.
- 6:17He's got to work on catching balls out of the dirt.
- 6:21He's got to assume when he's on first base that every ball that is going to be thrown to him will be a bad throw.
- 6:27This way his body will be in position that he can move equally to his right as to his left.
- 6:33He also must practice getting to the base on a ground ball hit to the infielders
- 6:38in enough time to where he can position himself,
- 6:41straddle the bag to where he can take the throws from either side.
- 6:44Skipper, what do you look for in a good catcher?
- 6:47He's got to be able to throw runners out.
- 6:49He must know how to handle pitchers.
- 6:51He must know what pitches to call.
- 6:53He's the general on the field.
- 6:55So consequently, it's good hands, follow the ball all the way into your glove,
- 7:01and a lot of catchers make the mistake they blink
- 7:04only because they feel that the batter is going to hit the ball rather than miss it.
- 7:09So then when he does miss it, they blink because they think he's going to hit the ball when it should be reversed.
- 7:14He should feel that the batter is going to miss the ball.
- 7:17Then when he misses it, he's ready to catch it.
- 7:19If he hits it, he has nothing to do with it anyway.
- 7:22He has to learn how to throw the ball overhand, just as I mentioned before, about an outfielder.
- 7:27As soon as I'm throwing catcher, the ball will tail, sail, sink, and that's what you don't want the ball to do.
- 7:33So get yourself on the balls of your feet, position your body where you have control of it at all times.
- 7:40You're able to shift your weight quickly.
- 7:43You have to come up throwing.
- 7:45You have to step into the ball when you're receiving it and firing it.
- 7:48Throw the ball overhand, and above all, do a lot of throwing to strengthen your arm.
- 7:53Tom, let's talk about actually fielding the ball.
- 7:55Now everyone, even the pitcher, eventually has to go after a pop fly.
- 7:59What can help an infielder, or really for that matter an outfielder, catch a fly ball or a pop fly?
- 8:05If you can make it a practice, if youngsters can make it a practice, whether it's a catcher on pop flies or an infielder on outfielder,
- 8:11make the ball come down and hit you on the nose, so to speak.
- 8:14I mean, don't let it hit you, but pretend like it's going to come down and hit you right on the nose in the last minute you catch it,
- 8:20and that way you'll always have yourself in the right position to catch the fly ball.
- 8:24What should the players in the field be thinking about?
- 8:26Now, they've checked how many balls strikes, how many outs there are, but what else should be on their mind?
- 8:32Each player, while he is out in his position, he must assume that before the pitcher throws the ball,
- 8:42that the ball is going to be hit to him, and then he will know what he has to do with the ball.
- 8:49In other words, let me say, there's a runner on first base, the right fielder is saying to himself,
- 8:54if this ball is hit to me, it's a base hit, I'm going to come up and I'm going to try to throw that guy out of third base.
- 9:01I'm going to hit the cutoff man. I'm going to field the ball clean. I'm going to charge the ground ball.
- 9:07Now, if he assumes everything he has to do before the ball is hit to him, in other words,
- 9:14he has to anticipate that the ball is being hit to him, when he anticipates everything that he has to do,
- 9:22if the ball is hit to him, he will react. If the ball isn't hit to him, then he has nothing to do.
- 9:28Then he has to say, if that ball is hit to the center fielder, I must go back him up.
- 9:32If the ball is bunted, I must back up the first baseman.
- 9:35So every man on his position, defensively, has to anticipate the ball being hit to him
- 9:43and what his requirements are to do with that ball when it is hit to him.
- 9:48Tom, what advice would you give young athletes about deciding which position they should play?
- 9:53Play as many positions as you can. Learn as much about every position as you can.
- 9:59And then you will realize the position that is best suited for you.
- 10:03But batting isn't all that easy. Certainly in the major leagues, players often strike out.
- 10:08A team might even suffer a no-hit, no-run game. Nobody gets a hit all day or all night.
- 10:14But with three outs to a team every inning, it seems then that even batting and base running become team plays.
- 10:21Everyone on the team can help.
- 10:23I feel that baseball is a tremendous sport because it's a team sport.
- 10:27It's a type of sport that anybody can play. You don't have to be big and strong to play baseball.
- 10:32You don't have to be fast to play baseball. It's a game that everybody can participate in.
- 10:39It's a game that everybody depends upon each other. It's a tremendous team sport.
- 10:44And it's a game that requires a lot of skill.
- 10:49I think that hitting a baseball is the toughest thing in all of sports to do.
- 10:54Now let me give you an idea of what I'm talking about.
- 10:57You see, in baseball, if you fail seven out of ten times as a hitter, you are a success.
- 11:06In other words, if you get three base hits and you strike out seven times, you're a 300-hitter.
- 11:11And you are a success in baseball if you are a 300-hitter.
- 11:15Baseball is the only sport where if you fail seven out of ten times, you're a success.
- 11:21Now let me just point this out. If you're a doctor and you operate on ten people and seven of them die, you're not a good doctor.
- 11:28If you're an engineer and you build ten bridges and seven of them collapse, you're not a good engineer.
- 11:34If you're a pilot and you fly ten airplanes and seven of them crash, you're not a good pilot.
- 11:39If you're a taxi cab driver and you make ten trips and you get lost seven out of ten times, you're not a good taxi cab driver.
- 11:45But in baseball, if you fail seven out of ten times, you are a success.
- 11:51It's the toughest thing in all of the sports and all of the world to be able to do.
- 11:57Tom, when your team is at bat and you're going to be up to the plate next, you go to the on-deck circle.
- 12:02What's the reason for having an on-deck area and what should you be doing while you're there waiting to bat?
- 12:07Well, the reason they have that on-deck circle is for a very important reason.
- 12:11When there's a runner on second base and he's coming in to score, you have to get up there to pick up the bat to get it out of the way.
- 12:17So the oncoming runner will not step on it and possibly break a leg.
- 12:21He also should be on the on-deck circle loosening himself up, swinging the bat, and also watching the pitcher and the defensive players.
- 12:29Tom, if a young boy or girl is in the batter's circle waiting to go up to bat or maybe they're sitting on the bench watching the game, what should they be looking for?
- 12:37Well, they should be looking at the pitcher at all times because there might be something that the pitcher will indicate to them what they're throwing.
- 12:45They should watch everybody on the ball field because there's always something you're capable of learning.
- 12:50And if you've got your head and eyes in the ball game, it definitely has to improve.
- 12:54Okay, now you're up to the plate and you know that the pitcher can throw hard and you know that, well, you could even get hit with a ball.
- 13:01What should you do as a batter and what should you be thinking about up at the plate?
- 13:05Well, there should never be any fear in the mind of a hitter. If you have fear, then you will never hit.
- 13:11You have to understand that you have to have enough quickness and agility to get out of the way of the ball.
- 13:16You have a helmet on to protect your head, and that's the only vulnerable spot where you can get really seriously hurt.
- 13:22Walk up there and have tremendous courage. Do not even think negatively that the ball will hit you.
- 13:27Tom, how should you get set at the batting plate so that you have the best chance of hitting the ball?
- 13:32You must have a comfortable stance and you must be in position to where your body is going forward in the direction of where the pitcher is throwing the ball.
- 13:40Stance is very important. Do not get too wide of stance because then you're uncomfortable and you cannot move into the ball with the quickness that you do with a comfortable stance.
- 13:50Now, I've heard you say before, to be a good hitter, you have to have a good knowledge of the strike zone.
- 13:55Now, once you're ready, what part of the pitcher's action should you be watching?
- 14:00Should you watch his wind-up? Should you watch his head motions, maybe his throwing arm, his hand? What?
- 14:05There is no way that that baseball can come from any place but out of the pitcher's hand.
- 14:12So you have to, at all times, concentrate on the ball in the pitcher's hand.
- 14:17You follow the flight of his arm and when the ball is released, you will have complete concentration on that ball coming out of his hand.
- 14:26You also must look at the defense, where they are playing you, and this will indicate to you where you should try to hit the ball.
- 14:35You should also be aggressive at the plate. You should believe you can hit. That, I think, is very, very important.
- 14:43You must walk up to the plate believing that you can hit any pitcher alive.
- 14:49Once you have that feeling, you've got half the battle won because self-confidence is the secret to success.
- 14:57Tom, what do you do differently when you want to lay down a bunt?
- 15:00You have to hold the bat out in front of you. You have to hold it loose. You cannot let the bat be tight in your hands.
- 15:07You have to have your top hand behind the barrel of the bat so the ball coming will not hit your fingers.
- 15:14There's a lot of batters that hurt themselves because they've got their top hand wrapped around the bat.
- 15:20You must have it with thumb and forefinger behind the bat, able to control the bat.
- 15:27Now say you're on first base, Tom. How do you steal second base?
- 15:31You have to, first of all, believe that you can steal. You have to have, you have to take an aggressive lead.
- 15:36If you're taking a lead and the pitcher throws over there and you can get back very easily, then you do not have the proper lead.
- 15:43Aggressive lead where you have to dive back into the base and then you know you have a good lead.
- 15:48Secondly, you have to have the weight on the balls of your feet evenly distributed because you either got to go back to first base or by running you're going to have to go to second base.
- 15:57You must use the crossover step, both going back to first base or going to second base.
- 16:03You have to have your knees slightly bent. If you're standing straight up and then you try to run, the first thing you have to do is bend your knees in order for you to run.
- 16:11So you're eliminating that by having your knees slightly bent, body just slightly down, ready to use the crossover step and to be able to give a thrust with the upper part of your body as you're stealing.
- 16:23And that will give you the, the quickness to accelerate real quick.
- 16:28As the manager of the Dodgers, now you set the lineup for every game. As on every team, you have players that have different abilities. Some can hit well, some can run well.
- 16:38How do you set the lineup to take advantage of all of these abilities?
- 16:42I think the leadoff man should be a guy who can get on the base. He's got good idea of the strike zone. He's not a free swinger.
- 16:49He'll take a lot. He's a guy that should be able to get a lot of bases on balls. And he also should be a guy with tremendous speed because when he gets on the base, you're looking for him to steal, hit and run and so on.
- 17:00So it's a kind of the leadoff man should be a guy who is who is speed afoot. He's a guy who is a line drive type hitter and a guy who doesn't strike out too often.
- 17:12The number two hitter, I would like a second place hitter to be left handed because when that guy is running, it's tougher for a catcher to throw out a runner with a left handed batter rather than a right handed batter.
- 17:26He has to be an unselfish ball player because if you have a guy like Davy Lopes who steals a lot, the second hitter like Billy Russell has to take a lot of strikes.
- 17:36I think Bill Russell is the ideal second place hitter. He's an unselfish ball player. He has to take a lot of strikes when the guy is running.
- 17:44He's got to be able to hit and run. He's got to be able to hit the ball on the ground to stay out of the double place. He's an ideal second place hitter.
- 17:51The third place hitter is the kind of guy that I would like to see at all times. The one we have, Reggie Smith.
- 17:58He's a switch hitter with power from both sides and yet by the same token he gets a lot of base on ball. So his knowledge of the strike zone is good.
- 18:06The fourth hitter is the guy that you want with power. He's the guy that you're looking forward to hit the ball out of the ballpark with consistency.
- 18:13I thought that Ronnie Say is an ideal fourth place hitter because he does with a couple of men on generally go for the long ball. He knows the situation.
- 18:22The fifth place hitter is a guy that's got to be a real good hitter both average wise and power wise because if you don't have a good hitter following that fourth hitter, they'll pitch around him in most cases.
- 18:34We have the ideal man in Steve Garvey. This year he provided us more power than he ever has. So he would probably be a real good fourth place hitter on a lot of ball clubs.
- 18:44So you want that fifth hitter to be a good hitter batting average wise and power wise. That way they will not pitch around your fourth hitter.
- 18:52Batting practice is usually organized Tom before every game but what should you do when it's your turn to take batting practice?
- 19:00Batting practice is a very very important part of you learning to hit the baseball. Swing the bat as often as you can and as long as you can.
- 19:08The more batting practice you take, the stronger you get and the quicker your reflexes become. You should not try to hit the ball out of the ballpark.
- 19:16You should try to hit the ball where it's pitched in batting practice. It's a loosening up process.
- 19:21Hitting the ball to all fields will make you even better prepared when that pitcher starts for the ball game. Batting practice is very very important.
- 19:30It should be executed very well. You should walk in, loosen yourself up, take some practice swings and then try to hit the ball where it's pitched.
- 19:39Tom what does it take to make it as an all around major league baseball player?
- 19:44It takes a lot of practice. It takes work and work and work. You know I told all of our players when they played for me in the minor leagues
- 19:51this story about this fellow who had gone to New York to see the opera at Carnegie Hall and he got lost and he kept this big girly policeman on the shoulder
- 20:04and he said say officer how do you get to Carnegie Hall and he looked back and he said practice boy, practice.
- 20:10And that's the same way they're going to get to Dodger Stadium through endless hours of practice.
- 20:14Thank you Tom. Tom Losorda, the manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers.