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Jags Drive Time: Monday, September 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you know Jack Jack Warris? Did you
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Speaker 1: know Jeck Warris? Drive Time? Ryan Sextextra John Oh, say
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Speaker 1: it actually Jeff Warris Drive Time starts right now. Don't
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Speaker 1: count this team out yet. And um, and I think
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Speaker 1: they'll tell you the same thing. We we can't afford
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Speaker 1: a rebuilding year and and that's not our mindset. Our
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Speaker 1: mindset is to put um the best team out there
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Speaker 1: to play, to compete in the win. And UM, we
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Speaker 1: feel like these guys, the guys in this locker room. Um,
0:35
Speaker 1: you know, nobody has seen him play together, nobody has
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Speaker 1: seen him play a game. So, like I said, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna know where we measure up. We played a very
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Speaker 1: talented uh Indianapolis Colts on Week one, and then we
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Speaker 1: follow up with a Final four team with the Tennessee Titans,
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Speaker 1: so we'll know pretty pretty quick where we measure up
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Speaker 1: with some of the top teams in the league. The
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Speaker 1: chance is coming for us and everyone to see what
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars team is actually going to look like. And
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Speaker 1: it is only six days away. Week one of the
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Speaker 1: regular season, starting off here on a Monday morning, Welcome
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Speaker 1: into Jaguars Drive Time. It is Dave one Dave Probable
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Speaker 1: spoke with us on Saturday and we learned all kinds
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Speaker 1: of news about the final roster. We're here to break
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Speaker 1: it down for you and John Osier prior to my calculations.
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Speaker 1: Today is day one of the regular season. We have
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Speaker 1: about sixty four more shows. Are you excited for day
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Speaker 1: one of our program? Jacks Driven? I couldn't be more excited, Slam.
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter if I'm excited or night. It's here,
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Speaker 1: the trains leaving. Are you ready? All right, let's go
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Speaker 1: ahead and get into big things. Big Thing one is
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Speaker 1: one and fifteen. Sports Illustrated came out with their regular
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Speaker 1: season predictions and the Jaguars were predicted to finish last
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And when on Game, Want Want Wall, however,
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Speaker 1: be what Dave Cobble to the top of the show.
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Speaker 1: We don't know what this team's gonna look like, and
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Speaker 1: really no one does because no one has seen a
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Speaker 1: preseason game for a many one in the NFL. So
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Speaker 1: about those polls will get much more into that Big
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Speaker 1: Thing too is my way. Dave Cobble and company cannot
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Speaker 1: afford another rebuilding here. You heard it here first. Sean
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Speaker 1: Kan has given Dave Cobwell and Doug Brown the keys
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Speaker 1: to build this team the way they want to build it.
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Speaker 1: No more Tom Coughlin here. It is just up to
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Speaker 1: Dave Cobble and Doug Brown, and the two of them
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Speaker 1: have made their expectations very clear. You know, our only
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Speaker 1: message was that let's keep the fifty three guys that
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Speaker 1: deserve to be on this team. And you know, uh
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Speaker 1: Shod gave us a directive to put the best team
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Speaker 1: out there. Um and we feel like we did that
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Speaker 1: with the players that we have. So um, we had
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Speaker 1: to do two things in this this season and put
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Speaker 1: the best team out there A and be get our
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Speaker 1: salary cap under control. And um, those are two tough
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Speaker 1: things to do initially at the same time. But we
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Speaker 1: feel like we did a pretty good job. And big
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Speaker 1: thing three is now or never. Here we go Day one.
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Speaker 1: Gardnerment Shoe quarterbacks steps up to the plate. Now or
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Speaker 1: never for Gardner Minsho hit a home run and forced
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar now not spend for their wealthy draft capital
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Speaker 1: and draft a quarterback next year. Now, this quarterback room
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Speaker 1: has only two guys and they both look very different.
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Speaker 1: Each guy's individually different um and and to be honest
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Speaker 1: with you, both their skill sets are a little bit different.
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Speaker 1: But he you know, and I know Coach Gruden's talked
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Speaker 1: about it, Coach McNew has talked about it. Jake has
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Speaker 1: been very impressive, um, and he's uh, you know, for
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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. And you guys have been all have been
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Speaker 1: out there and watching him throw and watching him practice
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Speaker 1: him and uh, he actually made the decision relatively easy
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Speaker 1: for us. That's Dave Coward guarding the Jaguars signing Jake
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Speaker 1: Luton to stay in that quarterback groom as the backup
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Speaker 1: quarterback to Gardner Minshew. Not a surprise any of us
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Speaker 1: that have been out on the field. Jake Lutlin definitely
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Speaker 1: looks like a very talented quarterback. Possibly a surprise to
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Speaker 1: people not paying attention to the team as closely. All right,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, let's go up to big thing one. You're
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Speaker 1: the one who told me about this sports illustrative pole
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Speaker 1: one in fifteen. Not much of a surprise, especially last
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Speaker 1: week with all of the news. What are we thinking
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Speaker 1: of this? Well, you're you're thinking that this is what
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Speaker 1: the rest of the league sees you as as a
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Speaker 1: complete rebuild, and so I went back and I looked
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Speaker 1: at the last two one and fifteen teams in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven Miami Dolphins, I looked at
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Speaker 1: the two thousand, eight oh and sixteen Detroit Lions, um
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Speaker 1: and then I looked at the the two and fourteen
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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers and the two and fourteen Jackson Bill Jaguars
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Speaker 1: in the two thousand and twelve But I think this
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Speaker 1: roster has better overall elements. And I mean that that
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Speaker 1: Detroit team that went I went sixteen at Calvin Johnson
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Speaker 1: for goodness, six you know, one of the best receivers
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Speaker 1: to ever play the game. So you know there was
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Speaker 1: some talent here and there and around the place, but
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Speaker 1: one in fifteen means nothing. It's just their words on
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Speaker 1: paper at this moment in time. But that's the perception
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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars franchise from the rest of the league.
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Speaker 1: And they're looking at they're looking at the division and
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Speaker 1: seeing three teams with quarterbacks and pass rushers and expectations
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Speaker 1: for the playoffs, and they're just they're saying, this is
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Speaker 1: the worst team in the league. And which is why
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Speaker 1: I think Dave came out so strongly and said we
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Speaker 1: haven't seen them together. We haven't played a game yet.
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Speaker 1: Don't give up on them. And I think there's some
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Speaker 1: things that some arrows pointing up for this franchise. The
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Speaker 1: draft capital that you mentioned, I mean they are in
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Speaker 1: great ship. The salary cap Dave mentioned he needed to
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Speaker 1: get fixed. It is fixed. They've got some dynamic young players,
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Speaker 1: some receivers, some path rushers. They have a young corner
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Speaker 1: they hope is everything you know that he is supposed
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Speaker 1: to be. They've got some nice young building blocks here.
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Speaker 1: One in fifteen is an indication of what they think
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Speaker 1: of you over all. Right, They're not looking They're just
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Speaker 1: looking at the roster. They're just looking at what they
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Speaker 1: think you can do this year. Um, the future is
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Speaker 1: very bright. The president maybe rocky, but you know, Dave
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Speaker 1: came out very strongly, and I think it was the
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Speaker 1: right thing to do and set the expectation for his team,
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Speaker 1: and that was, no matter what anyone else thinks of us,
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Speaker 1: We're not going to go into this season with the
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Speaker 1: mentality that we can't compete and we can't win. Yeah, John,
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Speaker 1: And it's it's pretty honest, especially since he mentioned, you know,
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Speaker 1: if this team is in a rebuilding year. I mean
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Speaker 1: Dave Colwell dug my own garnament to who else will
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Speaker 1: not be here? So I understand Jaguar stands with perception,
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Speaker 1: especially with Ronnie Harrison and the letter for net moves.
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Speaker 1: But John, what do you think of this poll and
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Speaker 1: do you agree that it was necessary for Dave Cobble
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Speaker 1: to come out and be passionate about that. Well, it's
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Speaker 1: the obvious choice, and it's the easy thing for National
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Speaker 1: people look at this and say, they lost Calais Campbell,
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Speaker 1: they lost Leonard Frenette, you know what, They lost all
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Speaker 1: the guys that a lot of National people who don't
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Speaker 1: really dig into the league have heard of. So they
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Speaker 1: don't realize that Klais Campbell had been dipping something. They
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Speaker 1: don't realize that Leonard Fournett was not in above the
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Speaker 1: x as and I was running back. They don't realize
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Speaker 1: that Ronnie Harrison was probably the third best players position
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Speaker 1: on the team. They just see names. It's an easy
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Speaker 1: thing to paint this team one in fifteen. I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's a playoff team, but I don't think it's
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Speaker 1: an obscene argument to look at and say they could
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Speaker 1: be better than they were last year. When they were
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Speaker 1: six and ten, mainly because of one of my hot
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Speaker 1: takes coming up. So I'm not gonna blow that, but
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Speaker 1: I get that it's such an easy choice because you
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Speaker 1: go off offseason gains or losses. Prognosticators don't assume that
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Speaker 1: anybody on a current team can get better Chart Tay
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Speaker 1: or Josh Allen, Miles Jack. There's a lot of guys
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Speaker 1: on this team who could have significantly better years and
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Speaker 1: help them get at least out of that one in
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Speaker 1: fifteen range to a you know, single digit loss, six
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Speaker 1: and ten, seven and nine type thing. That's my ceiling form.
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Speaker 1: One in fifteen is not my basement. And yes, for
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Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell, yeah, absolutely definitely passionate on Saturday addressing this roster,
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Speaker 1: let's go to a big thing. Three Brian now or
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Speaker 1: never day one Gardner min who was walking into this
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Speaker 1: building in the regular season, and I know we've all
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Speaker 1: been impressed by Jake Luton. They signed Mike Glennon to
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Speaker 1: the practice squads. You're keeping two quarterbacks on the active roster,
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Speaker 1: but what do you think of getting one, getting rid
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Speaker 1: of Josh Dobbs and now having those two in the
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Speaker 1: quarterback room. They're very different types of quarterbacks. Well, Dobbs
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Speaker 1: is just a guy, right. I mean they traded a
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Speaker 1: pick form last year because they needed a guy, but
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Speaker 1: he was either here nor there. He was never in
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Speaker 1: consideration for even the backup job as I saw it
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Speaker 1: this year. You know, my overall look at why people
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Speaker 1: think that this football team is the worst in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Just look at the quarterback room. You have last year's
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Speaker 1: sixth round pick and this year's sixth round pick. And
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Speaker 1: you're in a division where Philip Rivers is in Carola,
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Speaker 1: sorry in Indianapolis, and Deshaun Watson just got forty million
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Speaker 1: dollars a year and Ryan Tannehill got a big contract.
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Speaker 1: I mean, people are looking at your quarterback room and
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Speaker 1: they're saying, well, look, Josh Allen, d J Charts Chanal
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Speaker 1: to all these players, but what do you have at quarterback?
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Speaker 1: It brings us to the seminal question of this season.
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Speaker 1: Is Gardner Minshew capable of being the man? I don't
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Speaker 1: know now. My personal opinion is I don't think he is,
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Speaker 1: but he gets the chance to prove that this season.
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Speaker 1: So that's why one in fifteen doesn't matter. Because if
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Speaker 1: Minshoe is as good as he was last year. Well,
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Speaker 1: the the Jaguars aren't one in fifteen. If he's better,
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Speaker 1: then they can be better than that. If he's not well,
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Speaker 1: you know, then you're in a position where next year
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Speaker 1: you go and fix it. I think this is such
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Speaker 1: a massive story. And look at what he has to do.
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Speaker 1: The expectation right, the pressure with David Doug everyone assumes
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Speaker 1: that they are in the last year of their contract.
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Speaker 1: Here if they don't produce a winner on the field
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Speaker 1: this year, covid uh the Trevor Lawrence issue that will
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Speaker 1: now be hanging like a cloud all season long. He's
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Speaker 1: got a massive mountain to climb. But as I wrote
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Speaker 1: in Quick Thoughts last week, that's kind of the way
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Speaker 1: he likes it. So it will be a very interesting story.
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Speaker 1: But if you want to know why people have low
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Speaker 1: expectations for your team, look no further than the quarterback room. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: not to mention the bullet point of having to deal
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Speaker 1: with the coronavirus pandemic as the starting quarterback, but John,
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Speaker 1: we talk about it, and it's it's kind of funny
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Speaker 1: when you hear the perception of taking for Trevor. If
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minsho plays up to the level that we saw
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Speaker 1: him last season and does not improve it all. He's
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Speaker 1: probably gonna win three or four games and you're not
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Speaker 1: going to be the worst team in the NFL. So
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is good enough that you're not going to
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Speaker 1: be tanking for Trevor and we all expect him to
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Speaker 1: be better than he was last season. Yeah, I do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with Brian. I don't know if he's
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Speaker 1: a franchise guy. I don't know if he has the
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Speaker 1: arm strength. I don't know if he's tall enough to
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Speaker 1: see the field in that way which quarterbacks tell you matters. Um.
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Speaker 1: I get that he overcame some things last year, but
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Speaker 1: he also was very shaky at times last year. But
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Speaker 1: what he is, and we've all seen it, when the
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Speaker 1: chips are down, so to speak, when it's big playtime,
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Speaker 1: he has a tendency to make those so and he's
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Speaker 1: a leader. This team is not gonna quit on him,
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Speaker 1: and that helps late in games. You know they are
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Speaker 1: not gonna quit if things start bad, which could get
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Speaker 1: you out of that two and fourteen range. Um, that's
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Speaker 1: no man's land. That's where you don't want to be.
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Speaker 1: That's the danger of it. But I'm with Brian Gardner
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Speaker 1: Minshew has a chance here to do what he's been
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Speaker 1: doing for the last five years, prove everybody wrong, overcome
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Speaker 1: all the odds. He's climbed a lot of mountains. This
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Speaker 1: is everest. I think it's worth pointing out here. Also,
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Speaker 1: he Leonard Fournette has gone. That was a dependable running game,
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Speaker 1: no matter what you thought of Leonard's upside. Last year,
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Speaker 1: he produced almost eleven yards rushing um and he was
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Speaker 1: a reliable thread out of the backfield with seventy six
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Speaker 1: catches and nearly sevent yards. That's gone now, right, so
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Speaker 1: defenses could stack the line is scrimmaged in the past.
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Speaker 1: Now they don't have to. That's gonna make Gardner's job
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Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult. And the other side of
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Speaker 1: the coin is maybe Caleb and Chason comes on early
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Speaker 1: and is what we expect him to become. But you
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Speaker 1: don't have a Gonquay over there, so the past rush
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Speaker 1: isn't gonna be quite what we thought it might be.
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Speaker 1: And the coverage on the back end, there's a rookie
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Speaker 1: on one side, so you know that's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: little bit. I guess what I'm saying is Gardener is
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Speaker 1: really gonna have to pull this sled up the mountain. Now.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have to be their best player on offense
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Speaker 1: if they're going to go where he wants to go.
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Speaker 1: It's not He's not going to be able to rely
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Speaker 1: on a lot of things early on this season. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they evolve, you know, that's what Dave was talking about.
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Speaker 1: You hasn't seen these guys together. They think they've put
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Speaker 1: them to, you know, to a roster together that Jake
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Speaker 1: Gruden and Ben McAdoo and those guys on the offense
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Speaker 1: can work with. Um. I'm just anticipating it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: tough sledding early on because people are gonna make Gardner
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Speaker 1: Minshew beat them all. Kinds of questions, long, long list,
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Speaker 1: but hopefully we find out some answers to Week one
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Speaker 1: those two of the three, and I got a call
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Speaker 1: on Ronnie and I was able to get value for
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Speaker 1: the guy that may have been possibly to add band
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Speaker 1: out because of the other guys. Andrew Winger and Brandon
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Speaker 1: guys we have and getting value for Ronnie and um
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Speaker 1: Monday Morning, brought to you by Jet Holwans. That was
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Speaker 1: Dave Probable breaking down the Ronnie Harrison trade to the
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, bringing back Brian and John Oo's You're to
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Speaker 1: talk about this quickly. Johnny heard what Big Cobble just
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Speaker 1: sat right there. We saw what Ronnie Harrison was tweeting
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Speaker 1: out on social media yesterday. And it's crazy to think
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Speaker 1: from when they drafted Ryne to this position right now.
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Speaker 1: But they're very confident in the safeties they have right
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Speaker 1: now on this roster. This is this is a non
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Speaker 1: story to me. Whatever Ronnie Harrison says, it's they're better
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Speaker 1: without him. It's fine, you know, talk about Leonard for
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Speaker 1: Nett a little bit. They lost one guy last week
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Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt, and they lost in dock Way. Maybe
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Speaker 1: Leonard a little bit. They'll be fine without Ronnie Harrison.
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Speaker 1: I don't care what he tweets. Move on, you know, actually,
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Speaker 1: get off my lawn. There's there's a bit of us
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Speaker 1: against the world here, and Dave was playing that card
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Speaker 1: gently with the don't give up these guys, because it
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Speaker 1: wasn't like he said, well, no one believes in us
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Speaker 1: but us. You know, players will start talking about that
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Speaker 1: this week and they'll get asked about one in fifteen
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Speaker 1: and they'll circle the wagons. But when Ronnie Harrison goes
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Speaker 1: out and tweets like that, and and Leonard didn't write.
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Speaker 1: Leonard was gracious on that, and Gockway was gracious on that.
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Speaker 1: But again, you wonder why people think you're one in
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Speaker 1: fifteen material the quarterback room right, the fact that you
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Speaker 1: trade in Gockway, you release for Net and you trade Harrison,
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Speaker 1: and again perception of all of that, and then there's
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Speaker 1: a perception that no one wants to be in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, unique and gock Way, they go back to
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. There's all that stuff and none of it
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Speaker 1: matters right now. Absolutely none of it matters at this point.
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Speaker 1: It's about who's in the locker room. What's the game
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Speaker 1: plan that the coaches are able to put together week
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Speaker 1: to week to bring this young team that's never played
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Speaker 1: together together and to get it done. It is an
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Speaker 1: uphill battle. We talked about were Gardner Minshew, but also
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Speaker 1: for this roster because they are fighting a very negative
18:02
Speaker 1: perception of the Jacksonville Jaguars as we start the season.
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Speaker 1: That might be something that they put on their shoulder
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Speaker 1: and whereas a chip, it might help them as they
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Speaker 1: rally week to week. I couldn't agree more. Already have
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Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder and this most likely it
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Speaker 1: is just adding to it. As we get into some
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Speaker 1: Bernie Wood fired grill hot takes going into week one
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Speaker 1: of the regular season we have let's go, Branny Sexson.
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Speaker 1: We're going back to you. What is your hot taking? Well, look,
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Speaker 1: I think what you want about this roster. It isn't
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Speaker 1: very experienced and they don't have a lot of depth
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Speaker 1: with what sixteen rookies. Um, but this is not as
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Speaker 1: bad as that team in you had you had a
18:48
Speaker 1: very thin offensive line. I mean Brad Nest was a
18:52
Speaker 1: season veteran. He was your best player on the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: You know you had chatted Henny really is the guy
18:59
Speaker 1: that you could point to and move forward with, you know,
19:02
Speaker 1: as your quarterback. UM and Blank Gabbard and and Maurice Jones.
19:06
Speaker 1: Drew was here, but he wasn't you know, he was done.
19:09
Speaker 1: His knee had had blown up. They didn't have the
19:11
Speaker 1: pass rush they had Paul paz lesni uh. I mean
19:14
Speaker 1: they had something they could work with their um. But
19:18
Speaker 1: this roster has more exciting young talent. Not nearly enough.
19:22
Speaker 1: But if you just want to talk about young players
19:25
Speaker 1: like DJ Chark and Lavisca Chernault, Um, you want to
19:29
Speaker 1: talk about the two young tackles. Cam Robinson has an
19:33
Speaker 1: excellent camp um and Juwan Taylor. Uh. We we're not
19:36
Speaker 1: gonna get to see Josh Oliver, but you know what
19:39
Speaker 1: we did see of he was like, Wow, look at
19:40
Speaker 1: that guy. He really made strides. Josh Allen, Calebon, Chason,
19:44
Speaker 1: Miles Jack. Uh, you've got some exciting young players. They've
19:48
Speaker 1: got more to build on in now. That team won
19:52
Speaker 1: four of its final eight games after starting oh and eight.
19:54
Speaker 1: They finished four in twelve. Whether this team does that
19:58
Speaker 1: or not, better or worse, I'm just looking at the
20:01
Speaker 1: players and I think this roster has more exciting, young,
20:05
Speaker 1: promising talent. Again, some arrows up draft capital, salary cap
20:10
Speaker 1: opportunities in and some young talent to build around. You
20:15
Speaker 1: just need more. I couldn't agree more. You have some
20:18
Speaker 1: names that definitely stand out when you break it down
20:20
Speaker 1: like that, and John Osier, you and Ryan were on
20:23
Speaker 1: the same page. You wanted the same hot take. You're
20:25
Speaker 1: going a little more specific with this season. Yeah, I
20:29
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more with Brian. You also throw Miles Jack
20:32
Speaker 1: And there's so many impact players on this I shouldn't
20:35
Speaker 1: say so many, so many more than that team, but
20:38
Speaker 1: specifically to me, the offensive line this year, if this
20:43
Speaker 1: team is going to surprise people, if it's going to
20:46
Speaker 1: be better than the haters think it's going to be
20:50
Speaker 1: the offensive line and that and that's ironic because that
20:53
Speaker 1: was the most criticized area, but it is the most
20:55
Speaker 1: experienced area. It's an area where everybody is coming back
20:59
Speaker 1: from last year. If you look at it, Brandon Linder
21:02
Speaker 1: seventh year, Andrew Norwell, seventh year in the league, Camera
21:05
Speaker 1: Robinson fourth year in the league, a j Can six.
21:08
Speaker 1: That's a veteran bunch, and they brought it back for continuity.
21:11
Speaker 1: They brought it back because they believe it's a strength.
21:14
Speaker 1: Jaguars observers look at this unit and all they see
21:17
Speaker 1: is the criticism in the last few years. If it
21:20
Speaker 1: is a strength that they believe it is, well, that's
21:24
Speaker 1: a lot to build around, and then it helps all
21:26
Speaker 1: these other young offensive players. I don't know if it's
21:28
Speaker 1: a strength, but it has to be the way this
21:31
Speaker 1: team's built. Yeah, Johnny, you've gotta think the coaching staff
21:36
Speaker 1: and the locker room as a whole think it's a strength.
21:38
Speaker 1: Because that's what we've been hearing the entire offseason, starting
21:41
Speaker 1: with the common is that they really were going to
21:43
Speaker 1: address the offensive line much in the draft because they
21:45
Speaker 1: feel good about where it is right now, so we'll
21:47
Speaker 1: see when that goes to the test. Sunday, Mine Bernie
21:50
Speaker 1: Wood fire Grill hot take is all about defensive side
21:54
Speaker 1: in the ball and specifically middle linebacker Joe Schobert's. The
21:58
Speaker 1: potential success of the defense lies on his shoulders. And
22:02
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Of course, Lynn, it does
22:05
Speaker 1: because he's the middle linebacker, always does, but now more
22:08
Speaker 1: than ever, especially with this team, with all the shifting
22:11
Speaker 1: we saw in the defensive line during training camp, you
22:14
Speaker 1: know now have a young secondary, even more so than
22:17
Speaker 1: we thought a couple of weeks ago. You have Miles
22:19
Speaker 1: moving to the weak side. And there's no reason that
22:22
Speaker 1: Joe Schoberg can't get this done. He hasn't shown us
22:24
Speaker 1: anything but that during training camp. But you look at
22:27
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker what he normally has to do with
22:30
Speaker 1: the team. You look at this roster, in the rookies,
22:33
Speaker 1: in the age difference, the potential and the weight on
22:37
Speaker 1: Joe Schobert's shoulders. I think if he has a good year,
22:40
Speaker 1: this defense has a good year. Brian. I know we've
22:42
Speaker 1: seen a lot out of him, but it's a lot
22:44
Speaker 1: to ask out of a guy that just got here.
22:47
Speaker 1: Here's what you're asking him to do to be a
22:49
Speaker 1: great tackler. I don't care whether he has forced fumbles
22:53
Speaker 1: or interceptions or fumble recoveries. All I want for him
22:57
Speaker 1: is a hundred and twenty five tackles right. That means
23:00
Speaker 1: he will have been roaming near the line of scrimmage
23:03
Speaker 1: and making plays. The other guy, Miles Jack is going
23:06
Speaker 1: to be the guy with the tip ball interception returned
23:08
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, scoop and score kind of stuff. He's
23:11
Speaker 1: put into that position where he can really use his
23:14
Speaker 1: incredible athleticism. What I want from Scholberg five tackles. Everything
23:20
Speaker 1: else is a bonus. Just give me those. Yeah. More so,
23:27
Speaker 1: you just need a guy that you can rely on,
23:28
Speaker 1: a steady eddie, always know what's new, blinding guys up.
23:31
Speaker 1: That's definitely what Joe Schobert was brought him here to do.
23:37
Speaker 1: Oh go for I want to go back real quick
23:39
Speaker 1: to one thing on on John's and that is something
23:42
Speaker 1: that I said a couple of weeks ago. If Cam
23:44
Speaker 1: Robinson has a big season, this offensive line will have
23:49
Speaker 1: a big season. He looks primed for it based on
23:51
Speaker 1: what we saw John at training camp. If he comes
23:54
Speaker 1: out to play and they don't have to worry about
23:56
Speaker 1: left tackle. That makes the whole job a lot easier
23:59
Speaker 1: and sounds to me as if they believe that Cam
24:03
Speaker 1: Robinson is going to get that done this year. If
24:06
Speaker 1: he's good, the offensive line has a better chance to
24:08
Speaker 1: be good and this offense can function and that's what
24:12
Speaker 1: they hope. Clearly, the way they built this team, they
24:15
Speaker 1: think that's a strength and they think Cam Robinson gonna
24:17
Speaker 1: be healthy. He's the He's the key to it all,
24:20
Speaker 1: if you will. I don't think they take chances with
24:23
Speaker 1: the roster if they don't feel comfortable with him. I
24:27
Speaker 1: think they think they keep some guys and hold on
24:29
Speaker 1: to some different players here and there. I think Cam
24:32
Speaker 1: Robinson is going to be the key, just like you
24:35
Speaker 1: trying to agree more. Cam Robinson's chance to show he
24:38
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Speaker 1: season until we bench quarterback Gardner Minshew for struggles and
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Speaker 1: fully commit to tanking. My faith and management has finally
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Speaker 1: hit zero optimism for you Monday morning. Yeah, And I
27:32
Speaker 1: understand the tanking theory because everybody's talking about it. But
27:36
Speaker 1: I don't believe that this is going to be a
27:38
Speaker 1: case where Gardner Minshew gets an early hook, whatever that is.
27:43
Speaker 1: I think they'll go with him this year until they
27:47
Speaker 1: know definitively in their evaluation that he can't do it,
27:51
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27:54
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27:57
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28:02
Speaker 1: point of view. I would love to see Jake Lewton
28:07
Speaker 1: because I look at him and say, boy, there's a
28:09
Speaker 1: lot of talent there. But this has to be a year, Bryan,
28:13
Speaker 1: where they give Gardner Minshew every opportunity, and I think
28:17
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take a lot for him not
28:19
Speaker 1: to be playing this year if he's healthy. I would agree,
28:22
Speaker 1: you know. Doug said as much last week in his
28:25
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28:27
Speaker 1: I forget the tanking thing because if if they're in
28:30
Speaker 1: a position to draft number one overall, I won't be
28:32
Speaker 1: the coach. And then Dave said on Saturday when he
28:35
Speaker 1: was talking about the roster that they don't have time
28:37
Speaker 1: for rebuild, so they're at least spoken opinion is they
28:42
Speaker 1: gotta win this year, and that's what most people think. Look,
28:45
Speaker 1: they've gambled. They've gambled on Gardner Minshew. Whether that's a
28:49
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28:51
Speaker 1: sixteen rookies. Okay, they have rolled their dice, they have
28:56
Speaker 1: put their cards down on the table, whatever gambling analogy
29:00
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29:02
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, and they're not gonna pull It's not like
29:05
Speaker 1: you can say, hey, look last year, we got six
29:07
Speaker 1: wins out of a six round pick. Let's get six
29:09
Speaker 1: wins out of the six round pick this year. They
29:12
Speaker 1: are all in on Gardner Minshew. They're not pulling him
29:15
Speaker 1: because if you pull him, you're pulling in for a
29:17
Speaker 1: six round pick, or you're pulling him for Mike Glennan
29:19
Speaker 1: or a Josh Dobbs kind of player. He's your best opportunity.
29:24
Speaker 1: No matter what this year, they're gonna stay with him.
29:28
Speaker 1: They're also gambling on their guys. They're also gambling on
29:33
Speaker 1: their guys. They want their guys in the building. They
29:36
Speaker 1: don't want Twitter expert Ryan Harrison in the building. So
29:39
Speaker 1: that's what they want. Guys who are pulling in in
29:42
Speaker 1: the same direction and who aren't on Twitter. Yes, that's
29:48
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29:54
Speaker 1: How has tight and Tyler Eiffort looked in practice looking
29:57
Speaker 1: forward to seeing him on the field helping open up
30:00
Speaker 1: the passing game. Well, this is sort of Brian's guy,
30:04
Speaker 1: so I included it for him. He looked very good.
30:07
Speaker 1: You know the key with him can you stay healthy?
30:09
Speaker 1: It's it's almost Brian as if people assume following the Jaguars,
30:14
Speaker 1: you know, they don't want to believe it that he's good.
30:17
Speaker 1: It's almost too much to hope for because he's been
30:20
Speaker 1: hurt so much. The tight end position has been hurt
30:23
Speaker 1: so much. It's almost like you don't want to believe it.
30:25
Speaker 1: You see the shiny Christmas president under the tree, you
30:29
Speaker 1: know it's probably a bike, but you're scared to really
30:32
Speaker 1: believe it's a bike, and you hope you open up
30:35
Speaker 1: and you hope Tyler Eifford's their bike. Well, look, I've
30:39
Speaker 1: always been a fan of the tight end position. You know,
30:41
Speaker 1: those guys that have to do both right, who could
30:43
Speaker 1: put their hand in the ground and block for the
30:45
Speaker 1: running game and then get down the field and make plays.
30:48
Speaker 1: But you know, over the years the position has changed.
30:51
Speaker 1: I mean Kyle Brady was one of those last guys
30:54
Speaker 1: who could do that, and then Marcedes Lewis was a
30:57
Speaker 1: much better blocker than a lot of people thought. This
30:59
Speaker 1: guy could do it. He could put his hand in
31:01
Speaker 1: the ground and be impactful in the running game, and
31:04
Speaker 1: watching him, he's so. First of all, he's big. He's
31:07
Speaker 1: a six ft six, two hundred and sixty pound guy,
31:10
Speaker 1: long arms, big hands, prototypical tight end. He looks effortless running.
31:15
Speaker 1: I said it's a hot take last week. If they're
31:18
Speaker 1: in close games, Tyler Eiffort will be the difference. He's
31:21
Speaker 1: the guy who had thirteen touchdowns in his Pro Bowl season.
31:24
Speaker 1: He is a capable, smart, athletic, talented guy. And you
31:29
Speaker 1: saw James O'Shaughnessy, who's been a journeyman, start to make
31:32
Speaker 1: great strides last year before he got hurt with Gardner Minshew.
31:36
Speaker 1: I mean, I can only imagine what a Pro Bowl
31:38
Speaker 1: caliber talent like Eiffort will be able to do. He
31:40
Speaker 1: will be one of Minshew's favorite targets. I guarantee it,
31:43
Speaker 1: because Chart's gonna see a lot of attention down the field,
31:45
Speaker 1: and I think Ninsho's gonna I'm not minshewed Iffort's going
31:48
Speaker 1: to be able to get Minshew's eyes. If they get
31:52
Speaker 1: the same production out of James O'Shaughnessy that they got
31:54
Speaker 1: last year, that tight end room could definitely be successful
31:57
Speaker 1: this season. Let's go to Deed to wrap this up.
32:01
Speaker 1: Since we keep releasing non elite players, are there any
32:05
Speaker 1: current Jaguars players that you would call elite? Well, this
32:10
Speaker 1: question was in response to me basically saying they hadn't
32:14
Speaker 1: let anybody go who was elite yet, and he certainly
32:17
Speaker 1: didn't choose to let elite people go last week. Last
32:20
Speaker 1: week you made the argument that yawns very close to elite.
32:23
Speaker 1: They didn't let him go they couldn't work out a deal.
32:26
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think Josh Allen is a smidge away
32:30
Speaker 1: from being elite. He has a real chance to be
32:32
Speaker 1: elite by the end of this year, and I think
32:34
Speaker 1: DJ Chark and Joan Taylor on their way. Brian's point
32:38
Speaker 1: earlier is a really good one. There are so many
32:41
Speaker 1: more potential foundation pieces here then there are when most
32:45
Speaker 1: teams start a rebuild. There are there are pieces here.
32:50
Speaker 1: You just want Gardener to be closer to being elite.
32:54
Speaker 1: That's why everything looks so funny right now. You're not
32:56
Speaker 1: sure what the quarterback is, but there are pieces on
32:59
Speaker 1: this team that are getting close to being that sort
33:03
Speaker 1: of status where maybe multi year Pro bowlers. That's a
33:06
Speaker 1: good sign. So my philosophy us this, there are five
33:11
Speaker 1: premium positions where you need elite players to be an
33:14
Speaker 1: elite team. You need a quarterback and they don't have
33:17
Speaker 1: that right now. You need a left tackle. You might
33:20
Speaker 1: have one. I don't know if he's elite, elite elite,
33:23
Speaker 1: but he's got the potential to be really really good
33:25
Speaker 1: in Cam Robinson. You need a pass rusher, right they've
33:28
Speaker 1: got that in Josh Allen. You need a wide receiver,
33:32
Speaker 1: take your pick d J. H Art, maybe Leiviska chanlt Okay,
33:35
Speaker 1: and then a corner. I think most people expect C. J.
33:38
Speaker 1: Henderson has elite potential to be that upper echelon. That's
33:41
Speaker 1: why they chose him nine overall. So at four of
33:44
Speaker 1: the five premium positions, you either have an answer or
33:47
Speaker 1: you have a possibility of an answer. In the case
33:49
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33:53
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