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INTERVIEW: ZUN HUI (KOPIKIA) · 987 The Shock Circuit

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  Speaker 1: Alright, so our guests in the studio, as always, I
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  Speaker 1: love to glaze them up, right. Uh, she just shared,
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  Speaker 1: she's turning 25 this year. She turned 25, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: not wrong. Turning, turning, turning, sorry, no such thing as
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  Speaker 1: quarter life crisis for her. She seems to have gotten
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  Speaker 1: it all figured out already because she's an entrepreneur, still
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  Speaker 1: a student as well, but she's serving you very nice
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  Speaker 1: corn milk from the place we call KopiKia. Say hello
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: We're also live on TikTok, which you have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of friends on there supporting you right now. Someone even saying,
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  Speaker 1: I love Kopikia's house. Such a vibe. Some people said,
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  Speaker 1: I set an alarm to watch this live, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: OK, so before we actually get to Kopikia and all
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  Speaker 1: the home-based cafe and all that, tell us more about
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  Speaker 1: you and your life. Like, yeah, you,
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  Speaker 1: me,
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  Speaker 2: um, I think, uh, my character changed. I became from
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  Speaker 2: an extremely introvert extrovert. Yeah, so, uh, I think previously
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  Speaker 2: I'm very, um, dependent on people to the extent where
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't even know how to take, um,
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  Speaker 2: public transport myself or I have a.
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  Speaker 2: Fear of maybe talking to the waitress or waiter, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So after Kopiki I became um very extrovert, which like
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  Speaker 2: I can talk to any customer and all, yes, correct, hm,
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  Speaker 2: so I think like because um there's a big change
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  Speaker 2: in my life where some people, um, left my life
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  Speaker 2: and I think that um make me grow, forced me
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  Speaker 2: to grow out of my, of my comfort zone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, when you decided to start this business, right.
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  Speaker 1: It may not have occurred to you that like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: It's more than just a passion for making good items.
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  Speaker 1: It's also the interaction with people, right? So then how
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  Speaker 1: did you set yourself out again the mindset of like, OK,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I got to lock in because this
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  Speaker 1: is going to make or break my business.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, my, my initial thought was actually to treasure
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  Speaker 2: the customer interaction. So maybe to become more friends, then actually, um,
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  Speaker 2: then it came about corn milk because I
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  Speaker 2: I realized that matcha is the trend recently. Then I
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to serve matcha. I, I kind of don't
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  Speaker 2: want to.
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  Speaker 1: We don't matcha cafe here in Singapore and
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  Speaker 2: my location is pretty bad. I will admit that my
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  Speaker 2: location is pretty bad. It's quite far from the MRT
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  Speaker 2: or even bus stop. Then after that, the customer will
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  Speaker 2: tend to complain about my location being pretty bad. Then
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  Speaker 2: after that, I didn't want to serve matcha. So the
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  Speaker 2: next kind of vegetables, um, category would be corn because
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  Speaker 2: I love corn myself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm like I think I can eat
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  Speaker 2: like a few cups of corn from that.
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  Speaker 1: I also love corn soup. Like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: then I was like, why not try corn milk?
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  Speaker 1: Was it something that you tried before? No, you made
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  Speaker 1: it on your own. Like this is just something you
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  Speaker 1: came up with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like mix and match. I think it
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  Speaker 2: would be an unexpected, um, out of recipe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like an unexpected combination, I would say. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: someone here in the comment section saying her changes lives
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  Speaker 1: for the better.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: No, and I think, um, my coffee, I've been changing
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  Speaker 2: a lot of coffee beans and all. I think my
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  Speaker 2: first batch of coffee was undrinkable I would say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because it's, um, I, I would say that it's quite
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  Speaker 2: diluted because of the beans I use. So after I
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  Speaker 2: try to test and try out and then customer give
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  Speaker 2: me feedback, I'm, I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, just give me your honors. If it's not nice,
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  Speaker 2: just tell me it's not nice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to interrupt joking. Do you roast your
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  Speaker 1: own beans or how we mix it. OK, you mix it. OK.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to know. Just in case people
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  Speaker 1: aren't too familiar with Kopi, the style of coffee that
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  Speaker 1: you serve, is it like the hawker center Nanyang style
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  Speaker 1: or is it the Starbucks like fancy
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  Speaker 2: coffee hawker center.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, OK, go. I'm saying hi to Jet Barbecue, whom
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  Speaker 1: I order from quite a lot actually, commenting right now saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: proud of you. Hey, you're the best.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's my boss, is it? Yeah, previously I worked
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  Speaker 2: for him, yeah, on like Jack barbecue.
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  Speaker 1: So where
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  Speaker 1: did the entrepreneurial spirit and mindset come from to set
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  Speaker 1: up something like Kopi Kia once you know that you
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  Speaker 1: can make a good coffee and milk and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, ah, I never expect that it will, it will
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  Speaker 2: be like, um, such a supportive journey for everyone. So
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  Speaker 2: I just try to make up, like to do better,
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  Speaker 2: to serve better coffee and all. So I think naturally
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  Speaker 2: if you try to improve your product and then customers
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  Speaker 2: find it good, they will naturally recommend their friends
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  Speaker 1: and they
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  Speaker 1: come back, yes, their
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  Speaker 2: mouth.
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  Speaker 2: mouth. It's actually, yeah, it's actually mouth to mouth, and
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  Speaker 2: I would say content creating is quite important, I realized. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I try to do content myself. So previously all
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  Speaker 2: my contents are actually more of pictures because I told
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  Speaker 2: myself that I don't think I can do video content.
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  Speaker 2: Then I realized that, why not try.
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  Speaker 1: You're a Gen
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  Speaker 1: Z, you have to try. You should have been born
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  Speaker 1: with this talent.
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  Speaker 2: No, I hate being on camera. Yeah, OK. Then after,
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  Speaker 2: after this I realized that OK why not try
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  Speaker 2: something,
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  Speaker 1: OK.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break now. When we come back,
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  Speaker 1: I believe you brought some items with you. Can we
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  Speaker 1: open it up on air and talk about it? OK,
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  Speaker 1: I've never tried corn milk in my life. Me neither,
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  Speaker 1: because she made it from scratch. So we don't know how, how,
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  Speaker 1: how is it even made. Let's go. She may not
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  Speaker 1: tell us, but it's OK. And I think there's been
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  Speaker 1: such a boom of people starting off their own businesses
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  Speaker 1: at home. I heard that it's a vibe. We can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to go there and try, although West Side a
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  Speaker 1: bit far for us.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm East Coast. Yeah, but I, I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: say if I ever run the rail corridor, maybe you
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  Speaker 1: just stop by. I'll take a detour to Hillcrest and
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  Speaker 1: then go on to Kopi. Yeah, it's just that, OK, um, disclaimer,
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  Speaker 1: Joakim doesn't really drink coffee, but he can just try
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  Speaker 1: the corn milk on its own, right? Yes. OK, OK,
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  Speaker 1: so do we, do we try it now live on air.
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  Speaker 1: So while we try the corn milk, she's actually mixing
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  Speaker 1: a drink live on air right now. OK. So can
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  Speaker 1: you describe to us what you're about to make.
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  Speaker 2: So here is the
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  Speaker 2: Corn, corn milk, corn soy milk, and then inside here
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  Speaker 2: is the coffee. Yeah, then I'm gonna pour inside and
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  Speaker 2: just mix, but the ice melt in a bit. It's OK.
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  Speaker 2: You want to try
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  Speaker 1: first? Yeah, OK, I'm gonna try the corn milk. Shall
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  Speaker 1: we try the corn milk first? OK, OK, wait, we
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  Speaker 1: have to vigorously,
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  Speaker 1: vigorously,
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  Speaker 2: yes, correct.
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  Speaker 1: OK. OK. Can you hear it? A bit of ASMR
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  Speaker 1: this morning. I'm very scared spill on the pan. I know,
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  Speaker 1: please don't, please don't. OK, here we go. Opening it
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  Speaker 1: right now. OK, I'm gonna smell it first.
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  Speaker 1: I can smell the corn. Oh, just went in without
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  Speaker 1: sniffing it. OK, it smells a little bit like soybean,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a little bit savory.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it, but it's sweet at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: Like this is like a nice like wake me up
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  Speaker 1: kind of drink. Oh my gosh, guys, I get why
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  Speaker 1: you say just drink it on its own. I can
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  Speaker 1: drink it on its own.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because um.
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  Speaker 2: They request to just full corn soy milk, but I
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  Speaker 2: was worried that it might be a bit sweet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: OK, maybe like a, like a glass or a slightly
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  Speaker 1: like a teacup. This is so good. It's good, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's so good. I love it. I wonder how it's
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  Speaker 1: going to taste like when you mix it with coffee. Yeah, OK, OK, let's,
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  Speaker 1: let's see what happens. OK, if you want, you can
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  Speaker 1: try and pour it in front of the mic so
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  Speaker 1: we get a bit of the ASMR. OK, I'm gonna,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna record this now. OK.
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  Speaker 2: OK,
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  Speaker 1: and now she's pouring the corn milk into a cup
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  Speaker 1: of ice. She's making iced coffee here today. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: we are live on TikTok as well if you want
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  Speaker 1: to see all the action. Yes, some people say they're
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  Speaker 1: salivating watching this. OK, so she actually brought, um, her
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  Speaker 1: copy with her this morning. Thank you for making it
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  Speaker 1: so early, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: No worries.
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  Speaker 1: OK, is it or not, ah, the coffee?
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  Speaker 2: I think not that already. OK, she's
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  Speaker 1: pouring it into the, oh, I can actually hear it.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. This is right here, ASMR. I'm so
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  Speaker 1: excited to try. OK, So, this is yours. Go. OK,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much. Must you shake it or what? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can't shake it. Give it a stir.
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of do a little swirling the cup. OK,
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  Speaker 1: you can hear. So if you just joined us live
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  Speaker 1: on air, we're joined by Chunhui of Kopi Kia, and we,
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  Speaker 1: we chanced across her entire article. It's a home-based cafe,
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  Speaker 1: but people are raving about corn milk, the coffee, and
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  Speaker 1: the snacks that you sell as well, sons.
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  Speaker 1: So I officially stirred it up. I'm gonna try it.
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  Speaker 1: People on TikTok are saying, Oh, barista in action at
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  Speaker 1: the DJ station. So lucky. Guys, by the way, we
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  Speaker 1: don't have this every morning. And we didn't. She actually
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  Speaker 1: just brought it out of her own will. So thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much. OK, sip it, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, whoever said this is life-changing, it is,
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  Speaker 1: it's
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  Speaker 2: so good. OK, actually, me, myself haven't had a full
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  Speaker 2: cup of corn coffee.
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  Speaker 1: OK, hold on. The coffee itself is quite cow. I
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  Speaker 1: can taste it. Yeah, it's quite, it's
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  Speaker 1: quite thick.
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  Speaker 2: This is not enough.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, hang on. Do you just say you have not
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  Speaker 1: tried your own recipe?
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  Speaker 2: No, as in I tried, but like
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  Speaker 1: she's never committed to drinking a whole cup.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, OK,
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  Speaker 1: OK,
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  Speaker 2: maybe like a 1 to 2 mile. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: this is actually mind-blowingly good. It's mind blowingly good. Not,
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  Speaker 1: not that you can tell us how you make the
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  Speaker 1: corn milk and all that, but how long does it
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  Speaker 1: take to get corn milk.
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  Speaker 2: You mean the process, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: spilling secrets, of course,
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  Speaker 2: around
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  Speaker 2: 2 to 3 hours depending on the amount that I'm making.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, OK, and it usually goes, you, you finish everything
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  Speaker 1: in like a day.
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  Speaker 1: Like all the supply, OK, the way that I would
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  Speaker 1: describe this is that I would need a bigger cup. Like,
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  Speaker 1: do you have different sizes? No, only one size. Girl, I,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think you got to consider coming
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  Speaker 1: up with a larger cup because I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: could sit on this like all morning. It's so good
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  Speaker 2: because
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  Speaker 2: I actually I got, I saw on TikTok that it's
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  Speaker 2: like it's a Thailand, they make their coffee in
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  Speaker 1: like a cup, a giant cup.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, exactly. It's really good. But I would say
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  Speaker 1: because it already has a bit of natural sweetness in
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  Speaker 1: the corn milk, um, but it's not overwhelming, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a touch of like savory flavor in it also. It's
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  Speaker 1: such a balanced cup of coffee that has so much
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  Speaker 1: depth to it. I can chug it like all morning. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: love it. I've been so quiet here because I don't
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  Speaker 1: drink coffee. She doesn't drink coffee. I wanna, I wanna
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  Speaker 1: ask in terms of snacks, OK, aside from this lovely
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  Speaker 1: peanut butter which is served.
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  Speaker 1: Toast. What else should we try at Kopikia?
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  Speaker 2: Um, I would say my sardine. Actually, I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: bring the sardine here, but like I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I will make, make a mess here because it's like
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  Speaker 2: a French loaf with a sardine dip.
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  Speaker 1: Actually that's the
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  Speaker 1: specialty. I'll drop by and try it myself. You know what, girl,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for being so generous and bringing
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  Speaker 1: your signature items here to share with us. You've gained
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fans right now, people commenting on.
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  Speaker 1: TikTok Live saying I'm loving the hearty reactions. It's making
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  Speaker 1: me want to try it. What time do you open?
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  Speaker 1: I need that right now. So 46 Chu Road, give
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  Speaker 1: us the opening times and days.
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  Speaker 2: Um, 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. by ride. But if
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  Speaker 2: we are out of bread, then, then we're just closed
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  Speaker 2: for the day. OK,
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  Speaker 1: yeah, and you, you update on social media?
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  Speaker 2: Only weekends, on certain weekends only because I'm still teaching
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  Speaker 2: part-time tutor.
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  Speaker 2: So Sundays I'm down for tutoring. OK,
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  Speaker 1: girl, you're a hustler. I love that about you. Um,
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  Speaker 1: before we let you go, any maybe anything that you
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  Speaker 1: want to share about upcoming plans, launches, just encourage people
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  Speaker 1: to go visit you since you have national radio right now.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I think there's nothing. Um, I think currently what
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to focus on is my quality of drinks and,
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  Speaker 2: and toast because I know that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, quite a few of people is coming down, but
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  Speaker 2: I still hope like my quality will still maintained, yes, correct,
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  Speaker 2: but for pop-ups or what so.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's currently no plans for that.
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  Speaker 1: OK,
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  Speaker 1: maybe in the future when you expand, like if you
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  Speaker 1: expand or if you have plans to expand, wishing you
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  Speaker 1: all the best. We're always supporting you. If you ever
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  Speaker 1: want to shout out anything else, just hit us up, OK? OK. Alright.
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  Speaker 1: And if you are tuning in now here on the
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  Speaker 1: Shock circuit, Joakim and I love supporting young entrepreneurs, people
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  Speaker 1: who are starting their own businesses, and we would love
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  Speaker 1: to give you a shout out as well. We're still
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  Speaker 1: live on TikTok, and we'll catch you again very soon. So.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Corn milk is life-changing. I love it.