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7-30: Mariners trade deadline, Ben Goessling and Seahawks training camp news · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports deat Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three JJRFM sports headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Happy Thursday from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks training camp headlines. I brought to you by Frost, Fruit,
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  Speaker 2: Course Light, cheos, chill Manors. Offense went back inert last night,
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  Speaker 2: back underground, one hit through seven innings, a night after
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  Speaker 2: the seven runs on five home runs, one hit through
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  Speaker 2: seven innings, how they fell behind four noth into The
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers lost four to two in Los Angeles. Emerson Hancock
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  Speaker 2: eight hits, three runs allowed in five innings. Was that
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  Speaker 2: his last start as a Mariner? We'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: West and Wilson struggled playing third base manners three games
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  Speaker 2: under five hundred two and a half back from Texas
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  Speaker 2: in the first place in the America League West. Tonight
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  Speaker 2: the series in road trip finale at Dodger Stadium. Brian
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  Speaker 2: Wu moved up a day. He's going to start against
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  Speaker 2: Rokie Sasaki for LA and then the Mariners come home
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  Speaker 2: and play the Twins over the weekend at the Yard
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  Speaker 2: and Soto. The Seahawks are on the field right now
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  Speaker 2: in front of me here at renting along Lake Washington,
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  Speaker 2: fifth practice.
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  Speaker 3: Jenia Mason Athletics Center. How fancy of you?
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's what they asked me to say, right. I
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  Speaker 2: guess Virginia Mason paid for it so well.
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  Speaker 3: I think that you're just fancy for being there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it is a beautiful day. I can't imagine
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  Speaker 2: an NFL training camp with a better setting, better temperature.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's why guys come here, to be honest,
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  Speaker 4: They're like, wait, hold on, I'm not in the heat
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  Speaker 4: of Texas right now.
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  Speaker 2: I used to cover one hundred and five degree practices
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  Speaker 2: at NAPA with the Raiders. This is not that full game,
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  Speaker 2: full pads, first time they've been in full pad, first
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  Speaker 2: morning practice. No fans today other than a few VIPs,
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  Speaker 2: but the hard knocks cameras are still here with the
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  Speaker 2: boom mics and everything else. NFL game officials are here
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  Speaker 2: for the first time. They make a tour of every
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  Speaker 2: one of the thirty two teams and explain the new rules,
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  Speaker 2: emphasis and changes for this year. Game officials will be
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  Speaker 2: officiating the practice today. NFL reporter Aaron Wilson is reporting
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks are checking out jdave On Clownty. Remember him.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, for a hot minute. You know what
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  Speaker 4: a funny story I got to cover. Well, I was
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  Speaker 4: producing the ESPN radio broadcast of that Bowl game when
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  Speaker 4: it was like the infamous he was facing up against Lawan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 4: It was the Outback Bowl and I was there, and yes,
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  Speaker 4: I saw him get hit and it was not in
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  Speaker 4: an area that was injured.
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  Speaker 2: He's thirty three years old now. Jadavian Clowney is played
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  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks, of course, in twenty nineteen. Had eight
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  Speaker 2: and a hacks half sacks last season in thirteen games
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  Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. The Seahawks yesterday signed undrafted rookie Kyrie Duplesses.
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  Speaker 2: He's from the University of Delaware. He spent a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of time with the Lions this offseason. He takes
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  Speaker 2: a roster spot vacated when the team waved Kenny McIntosh,
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  Speaker 2: the running back, after his knee surgery. The WNBA has
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  Speaker 2: fined the Seattle Storm and suspended ConL Celeste Keaton from
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  Speaker 2: attending them team's next five games. She had in exchange
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  Speaker 2: with two fans during Tuesday's game against the Indiana Fever
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  Speaker 2: Climate Pledge Arena WNBA confirmed this today that she suspended
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  Speaker 2: for not being able to attend her team's game for
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  Speaker 2: five games. According to multiple reports, Keaton admonished a pair
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  Speaker 2: of fans who brought signs in the Climate Pledgerina supporting
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  Speaker 2: Fever guard Sophie Cunningham following her recent comments about transgender athletes.
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  Speaker 2: The fans told undividedpod dot com that Keaton directed expletives
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  Speaker 2: at them for a sign to thank Cunningham for quotes
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  Speaker 2: speaking up for girls. The Storm apologized for the injury yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and the Vikings signed Jamal Adams this week. He's now
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  Speaker 2: on the field at Vikings training camp, which has begun
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  Speaker 2: one of the later ones to begin at ten twenty.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk in Minnesota with Ben Gosling, Viking Feet writer
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  Speaker 2: from the Minneapolis Star Tribune, about what the thirty year
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  Speaker 2: old Adams looks like as a Viking. Now onto the
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  Speaker 2: Thursday show. From the first practice of training camp today.
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  Speaker 2: What's Jake Bobo's status he misspracticed with an injury the
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  Speaker 2: other day. About julian Neal, the third round pick. I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you what I've seen so far from practice from them,
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  Speaker 2: It's not much. We'll go to Vikings training camp see
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  Speaker 2: what Jamal Adams is doing there right now, signed with Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to Ben Gosling and the minute of the
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  Speaker 2: Apples Start Tribune in about fifteen minutes ten forty five.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna hear from A. J. Barner, the tight end
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  Speaker 2: who had two surgeries after the Super Bowl won on
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  Speaker 2: his shoulder, went on his ankle to repair the two
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  Speaker 2: issues that he played through last year and played really
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  Speaker 2: well through last year. But now he's a lot healthier.
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  Speaker 2: He has a real chance, Jessman, to be a big
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  Speaker 2: factor in this offense because it is now run by
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator Brian Flurry, a tight ends coach for the
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  Speaker 2: last seven years of the forty.
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  Speaker 4: Nine ers, and we have yet to see what he
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  Speaker 4: has to offer in that position.
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  Speaker 3: So right, that's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that Barner has a chance for a Pro Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: borderline all Pro season.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he's doing it with his outfits already.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, he's the most Unaurora, Ohio guy I know
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  Speaker 2: who grew up an hour from where I grew up
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  Speaker 2: and did persona with the faux mint coats and the
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  Speaker 2: sunglasses in.
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  Speaker 3: The Yeah, but he thrifted it. That makes him cooler.
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  Speaker 4: No, I just I like him a lot because he
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  Speaker 4: was very understated throughout the season, and then he came
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  Speaker 4: out with the first touchdown of the Super Bowl and
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  Speaker 4: then parade. I'm sorry, everyone can do whatever they want
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  Speaker 4: in the parade, and he did him and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: that's him, okay, because you do you. I saw Abe
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  Speaker 4: Lucas and Koog's gear and I was like, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's a yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then I saw you J Barner and I'm like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 4: we're thrift shopping.
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  Speaker 3: This is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: We do have the largest good will store in the world.
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  Speaker 3: We do.
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  Speaker 4: I just actually had them on Seattle Voice to talk
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 3: With the World Cup coming in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cattle Voices, the weekend show that Jessman hosts as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's your community Voice.
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  Speaker 2: At eleven o'clock, you're gonna hear from Cooper Cup, Yakama native,
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  Speaker 2: two time Super Bowl champion wide receiver. He I did
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  Speaker 2: some interesting things to say about Brian Fleury, the new
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, and about winning grass fields in all NFL stadiums.
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  Speaker 2: He says he knows it can be done, but will it.
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  Speaker 2: That's a place I think the new owners, the Cause
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  Speaker 2: of Family, could score points with their new players we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. You hear from Cooper Cupp and his
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  Speaker 2: perspective about grass fields in the NFL at eleven o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: eleven thirty, your text and talkbacks and the Tacoma Dodds
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  Speaker 2: text one four nine, four to five one. The talkbacks
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  Speaker 2: are on nine three three KJR dot com with the
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  Speaker 2: red microphone button or the iHeartRadio app in nine three
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  Speaker 2: three KJR with the red microphone button. Jessman loves herself
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  Speaker 2: some of those talkbacks. Will play those at eleven thirty.
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  Speaker 2: First question I have is on the text line four
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  Speaker 2: nine four or five one or the talkback line, What
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  Speaker 2: if any concerns do you have about these champions Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: their defense of their title, what the NFC West is doing.
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  Speaker 2: What concerns, if any, do you have? Are you none?
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  Speaker 2: You're like, I'm good. We wanted Super Bowl as teams
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  Speaker 2: loaded and reloaded. We're good. I'll read back your text
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  Speaker 2: at eleven thirty.
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  Speaker 3: And please give me the talkbacks. I like your voices.
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  Speaker 3: I want to play them. I want to hear them.
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  Speaker 2: The Seahawks right in front of me have pulled out
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  Speaker 2: the high jump landing pit mats now that they're in
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  Speaker 2: full pads. They don't take guys to ground. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like they're in full pads and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: they're going to do handlet.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna ask, are they actually high jumping, because
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  Speaker 4: that's a skill.
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  Speaker 2: They just fall into the pads that keeps them from
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  Speaker 2: landing on the gap they have got. I mean that
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  Speaker 2: you hear, stay up, stay up, stay up all the time.
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  Speaker 2: They don't want guys falling down and tripping over themselves
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  Speaker 2: and getting some cheap, unnecessary injury. They just they contrast,
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  Speaker 2: are two are too expensive these days and the season
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  Speaker 2: too important, and these practices limited. They're limited by the
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  Speaker 2: Collective Bargaining Agreement on how many times they can be
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  Speaker 2: in full pads in training camp. They also buy CBA
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  Speaker 2: have to have days off every five or so days
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  Speaker 2: of camp. All of these within the last fifteen years
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  Speaker 2: or so of the CBA. I mean, when I first
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  Speaker 2: started covering the NFL two days and smashing mouth and
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  Speaker 2: tackling full goat scrimmaging. The only thing full go now
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  Speaker 2: that the pads are on is the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: The offensive and defensive lineman. They go one on one
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  Speaker 2: on pass rush drills. They're run blocking drills. That's real football,
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  Speaker 2: and they get after it. And that's when you've seen
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  Speaker 2: the fights. And then you're paid anfetti and frank.
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  Speaker 3: Kl like you call them. Yeah, well that's just camp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what starts today now that they're in pads,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll see what the full pads, what the offensive
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  Speaker 2: and defensive lines look like, much much better than we've
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  Speaker 2: seen so far. Also see what Jedarian Prices passbalking looks
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  Speaker 2: like now that they're in full pads. The Mariners. The
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  Speaker 2: offense last night for the Mariners back to what it's
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  Speaker 2: been most of the season, A night after the seven
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  Speaker 2: runs on a season high five home runs to beat
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, only one hit through seven innings, they're behind
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  Speaker 2: four nothing and then they lose. Emerson Hancock was that
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  Speaker 2: his last Mariners start last night. According to ESPN's Jeff Passing,
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners are looking to starting pitcher to land a
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  Speaker 2: right handed batter. We've talked about the right handed hitting.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's been mentioned quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, why because he still is under club control
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  Speaker 2: through the twenty thirty season and he doesn't cost twenty
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  Speaker 2: three million dollars like next year, like Luis Castillo does exact,
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  Speaker 2: so that would make him not only more tradable, but
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  Speaker 2: also would fetch you would think, bigger prizes for someone
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  Speaker 2: who would be under club control at relative low cost. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: Hancock was kind of the not kind of he was
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  Speaker 2: the extra starter here that had the plans where that
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  Speaker 2: he was going to start in Tacoma again, and then
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller was hurt for the and on the injury
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  Speaker 2: list for the first six weeks with that oblique and
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  Speaker 2: Hancock just shoved in those six weeks, and all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, Hancock's in the middle of their plans and
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  Speaker 2: you can't send him down the way He's pitched most
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  Speaker 2: of the season. He's tailed off recently, but even last night,
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  Speaker 2: three runs and he is pitch count cut up in
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  Speaker 2: ninety two pitches and five innings. But yeah, he was
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  Speaker 2: not in their plans. So his emergence when Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 2: was injured has created this six pitchers and the piggybacking
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  Speaker 2: and the six man rotation and all of that. They
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  Speaker 2: would love to trade Luis Castillo, It's just going to
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  Speaker 2: be difficult. At the twenty three million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: He's over right, how much are they willing to eat in.
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  Speaker 2: A team option, and that's right, we're talking about this, Jessman,
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  Speaker 2: You're right. How much is John Stanton The Mariners ownership
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  Speaker 2: willing to eat of contracts of guys and they're not
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  Speaker 2: going to play for him. Owners don't like to spend
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  Speaker 2: money on assets they don't get to use, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what you'd be doing with Castill. That's what a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams do to get rid of high priced veterans.
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  Speaker 2: They eat the money and pay part of the money
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  Speaker 2: or a lot of the money of the contract that
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  Speaker 2: they give away. The Mariners have not traditionally done that.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about them as a business enterprise. They keep
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  Speaker 2: their costs relatively low compared to the Dodgers, Yankees, Red
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  Speaker 2: Sox Cubs of the world. They're in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the pack in spending on team playroll, yet they are
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  Speaker 2: always well recently been in the top ten or so
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  Speaker 2: in revenues business holl is working. They get luxury tax
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  Speaker 2: revenues from the top spending teams, and they don't get
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  Speaker 2: into the luxury tax dresshold to have to spend that
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  Speaker 2: tax themselves. And then you come into situations like Luis
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  Speaker 2: Castile and that's why there's talk about Emerson Hancock getting
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  Speaker 2: traded or George Kirby getting traded, younger players, younger pitchers
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  Speaker 2: who are still under club control. We'll see. The trade
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  Speaker 2: deadline is three pm on Monday in Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 2: What are they gonna tell he always makes a move.
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  Speaker 2: We talked yesterday that some people in the text line
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  Speaker 2: said Stan pat don't do anything that would be very
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  Speaker 2: uncharacteristic of Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander here in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the season. I'm next, we're gonna go talk
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  Speaker 2: about Jamal Adams, jer Old Fred.
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  Speaker 3: Oh hey, now that's like two Jets trade zis.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of thing when it comes to Sam Darnold and
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  Speaker 4: Jamal Adams.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Jamal Adams in Minnesota. We're gonna talk to Ben Gosling,
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  Speaker 2: he's a Vikings beat writer for the Minneapolis Star Tribune
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  Speaker 2: from Minnesota's training camp. Next on ninety three point three
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  Speaker 2: kJ RFM, Welcome back to the show, Greg Bell, Jessin
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  Speaker 2: McIntyre with you having Seahawks training camp. For the fifth
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  Speaker 2: practice of training camp. Jake Bubbo is not out here
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  Speaker 2: that I can see. He had a leg injury that
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  Speaker 2: I was told might be a hamstring issue that he
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  Speaker 2: misspracticed the last practice they had on Tuesday. Rookie third
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  Speaker 2: round pick Julian Neil also not here. He has a
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  Speaker 2: leg injury. He's misspracticed the last two days as well.
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  Speaker 2: They're in full pads today for the first time. Interestingly,
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  Speaker 2: I just saw Robbie since an inline tight end blocking
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  Speaker 2: doing duo blocks with.
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  Speaker 3: That guy, I can do anything.
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  Speaker 2: He was a two hundred and seventy five pound tight
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  Speaker 2: end for the University of Alabama that the Seahawks converted
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  Speaker 2: to fullback last year. They still had Bratty Russell of
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  Speaker 2: Courses fullback. But Food's doing some tight end work right now.
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  Speaker 2: Doing some Minnesota Vikings work is Ben Gessling. He's the
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  Speaker 2: Minneapolis Star tributing, a longtime Vikings beat writer in the
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  Speaker 2: Twin Cities. He is in Minnesota at Vikings camp where
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  Speaker 2: Jamal Adams has landed. Remember him, What does Jamal Adams
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  Speaker 2: look like as a Minnesota Viking. We bring in Ben
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  Speaker 2: Gessling on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline from Minnesota. Good morning, Star,
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  Speaker 2: afternoon for you, sir.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, just barely afternoon for me. I suppose about almost
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  Speaker 5: ten thirty for you. Guys. But yeah, I hope the
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  Speaker 5: start of camp is going well. It sounds like you're
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  Speaker 5: a few days ahead of us. We are just gearing
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  Speaker 5: up for practice number two here a little later this afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, thanks there.
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  Speaker 6: Things are off to a good start here at Twin.
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  Speaker 2: Say, what does Jamal Adams look like? Does he look
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  Speaker 2: thirty does he look thirty five? We have a checkered
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  Speaker 2: history with him out here in Seattle, as you know.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I mean he looks in shape.
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  Speaker 5: He's excited. I mean we talked with him yesterday and
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  Speaker 5: he sounded pretty thrilled to beat back with Nolan Teasley
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  Speaker 5: to be playing for Brian Flores, and I think that's
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  Speaker 5: probably a lot of the appeal of this for him
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  Speaker 5: in terms of how they will use him. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he talked about if they need me be a kicker,
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  Speaker 5: if they need somebody to walk a dog, I'll do
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  Speaker 5: whatever it is that I need to do. So I
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  Speaker 5: would have meagined some of the time seeing.
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  Speaker 6: This versus what things are like with the Raiders may
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  Speaker 6: have him feeling pretty excited.
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  Speaker 5: About this as well. But yeah, I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 5: kind of see what the fit looks like. But they
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  Speaker 5: have a lot of players. They've used a lot of
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  Speaker 5: players that can do similar things to what Jamal Adams
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  Speaker 5: will be asked to do here. And I think a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the early phase of this is going to
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  Speaker 5: be seeing how he fits in that type of a scheme.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get to that in use of him
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  Speaker 2: in a second. But Ben out here in Seattle, he
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  Speaker 2: was not a guy that came out and said I'll
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  Speaker 2: walk the dog, I'll do whatever you want to do.
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  Speaker 2: He was. He was all that in the bag of chips.
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  Speaker 2: He came as two first round picks and a starter
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  Speaker 2: Bradley McDougal that Seahawks traded to get him from the
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  Speaker 2: Jets about six years ago. And then he comes out
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  Speaker 2: and then he has all kinds of success as a blitzer.
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  Speaker 2: In the very first year here nine and a half
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  Speaker 2: sacks to set a record for defensive backs as Pete
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  Speaker 2: Carroll just sent him blitzing. Then once team figured out
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  Speaker 2: how to block him and blitz him, he was done.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't do anything else in here in Seattle basically,
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  Speaker 2: and became a liability in past coverage. Does he sound
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  Speaker 2: humble to you, I mean, I only use that from
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  Speaker 2: the context that we know him in Seattle, but he's
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  Speaker 2: been around now a few teams in the last few years. Well,
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  Speaker 2: how does he sound humbled or how would you describe
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  Speaker 2: him that way?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the excitement for the opportunity,
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  Speaker 5: which you know, I can only assume is on a
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  Speaker 5: vetmentimum deal. I haven't seen the full details yet, but
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  Speaker 5: I think that's what he was last year with the Raiders.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't think that you're signing with a team on
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  Speaker 5: the EVA training camp for any more money than that.
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  Speaker 5: So I think some of the gratitude of being here
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  Speaker 5: probably can be tied into being humble a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: like you say, because whether it's injuries or moving around,
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  Speaker 5: being asked to switch positions, because the question of can
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  Speaker 5: you run enough to play in pass coverage downfield or
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  Speaker 5: playing beef coverage has changed the trajectory of his career,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: and I think has changed the trajectory of where he
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: can make money, how he feels about his ranking in
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: the league, all of those things. I mean, you cover
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: this as long or longer than I have, so you
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: know all these things very well. But it's yeah, I
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: think there's been a shift for him in terms of
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: just you're not the guy that's getting traded for two
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: first round picks anymore. You're the guy that is having
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: to fight your way onto a roster. And those things
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: and how quickly they change, I think inherently have to
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: humble people or add a dose of cold water probably
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: to the way a guys see things in the possibility
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: of his career. So yeah, it certainly seemed yesterday like
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: there's a different perspective than maybe it was at the
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: end of Seattle, and I have to take the last
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: The things he's gone through the last few years play
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: into that quite a bit.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Ben guessling with us from Minnesota Vikings training camp on
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: the Beacon plumbing high and those things that Jamal Adams
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: has gone through. He played just in five games in
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the first season after he left the Seahawks.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: He played three of them for the Tennessee Titans, who
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: released him in the middle of the year, played two
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: for the Detroit Lions. Then Pete Carroll got him off
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: to scrap people last year and brought him to Las
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Vegas and made him a linebacker. He played in all
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: seventeen games, but as a linebacker, not at all as
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: a safety. How does. I'm gonna ask you, what is
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith's mysterious situation with the Vikings, and is that
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: situation part of the reason that they signed Jamal Adams.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I don't think that is directly related, because I think
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: they've listed him as a linebacker, They've talked about using
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: him in that context, and I don't think they would
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: look at him as a Harrison Smith replacement somebody that's
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: kind of played outfield a lot. Now, Harrison Smith gets
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: asked to play in a lot of different places as well,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: and he gets used as a blitzer or a guy
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: that's showing those seven up eight up looks that Brian
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Floura has likes to use and then drops out of
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: those things at the last second. I mean, that's something
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: you see him do a lot. I don't know that
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: Jamal Adams will have the deep coverage responsibilities if he's
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: on the field on a regular basis, I don't know
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: that they'll use him that way. I think some of
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: this they worked out, like five linebackers in that tryout
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: session that they brought him in for, so I think
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: a little bit of this with Blake Cashman and dealt
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: with a finger injury during Oca's in mini camp. Ivan
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Paced has a lot to prove in the inside linebacker position.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: They need some depth there as well. I think that's
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: part of this, and then just type those types of
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: roles they like that Brian Flora has uses with Josh
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Mattelis where is he a slot guy? Is he kind
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: of a safety of three safety package? Is he a
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: linebacker that can drop into coverage a little bit?
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: And then blitz.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I mean they're going to use a lot of positionless
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: descriptions of players, and I think there's going to be
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: some of that, probably more so than saying, well we
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: don't have Harrison Smith here, we got to fill in
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: another stafy. I don't think it's quite that one. For one,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: they still are sending the overtures publicly privately to Harrison Smith,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: saying we'd love to see you back here. I think
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: the question there will be, I mean, towards the end
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: of the season, how is his body feeling? I think
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: that was certainly something he was thinking about. And then
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: you know, he's a guy.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: That has gotten married a couple of years ago, has
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: a couple of young.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Kids already, and it's that thing of do you want
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: to go back and do this again. So I wouldn't
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: expect to see him before late training camp, and then
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: you know, it could be even a little bit later
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: than that. If he were to decide to do it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: The door is opened for him. The Vikings will love
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: to see him, but it will be his decision. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: he's always been a guy that him his whole career,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: and he would like to say when I retire, I'm
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: not going to tell you guys. You're just going to
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: see that I'm gone and you'll figure it out from there.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: But I don't expect like a grand announcement from him
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: one way or the other that will lend any clarity
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: anytime too.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: And that's kind of how he rolls.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: And he likes to keep people guessing a little bit,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: which is part of what made him fun to cover.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Harris Smith is just turned thirty seven years old. He's
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: smart enough not to come back in the middle of
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: training camp. He's going to wait till he all does
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: come back. That's way. He's the All Pro, six time
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl safety. We're talking to Ben Gesling. He is
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings beat writer for the Minneapolis Star tribut
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: on the Beacon Plumbing hotline from Vikings camp. You mentioned
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Brian flore Is. We know how creative and attacking and
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: aggressive he is as a defensive coordinator. What did he
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: say about Jamal Adams and maybe what role he envisions
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: for him and what he thought of him.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he is somebody that he's watched his
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: whole career and certainly Scott into his whole career. A
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: lot of it is they will try him in different spots.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: You know, a lot of it will be linebacker at first.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: But yeah, a lot of this, I think is they
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: know what he can do as a pass rusher.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: They've seen some of the things, certainly in that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Year in Seattle and probably more so earlier in his career.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: I think he's only got one sack since he left
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks, if I'm not mistaken. But there is certainly
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: an interest in leveraging some of those pass rush skills
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: and seeing where he fits. A lot of this, I mean,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: back there at the first practice yesterday, they're still getting
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: to know him a little bit and seeing where he
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: kind of slopped into this defense. But I would expect
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: to see him move around. I would expect to see
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: them design some pass rush packages where he's involved. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: mean as we get going here, those things will become
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: a little more apparent. But yeah, this Brian Lawrence likes
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: nothing more than players who have experienced a multiple positions.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I mean when you see their draft picks, a lot
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: of times a guy like Jay Ward who will play
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: a bigger role for them this year with a corner
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: in a safety in college. I mean, they look for
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: a lot of those types of players that have worked
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: in two different spots because they like to have people
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: do things from unconventional positions because it makes them harder
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: to plan for, harder to figure out. And I think
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: him and the experience he has doing that will map
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: nicely onto what the Vikings want to do with their
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: defense as a whole.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Ben, We've talked for ten minutes, and this is probably
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: your first Vikings piece of work in a couple of years.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Nobody's asking you about a quarterback situation. Let me ask
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you what Kyler Murray in of course, after Arizona gave
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: up on him, and you've still got JJ McCarthy coming
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: off of his injury that he had as his rookie
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: year and trying to bounce back still from that to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: become the starter. What's going on? What do you sense
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: is going to happen at the start of the season
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and who the Vikings quarterback is going to be.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they had both of those guys taking
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: rest with the ones yesterday in the first practice. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: would expect we will see that for the first few
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: days here at least, where they're both getting a long
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: look with the ones. With the twos. I think there's
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: going to be times where they're lining up with the
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: twos and playing against the number one defense. You know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: those types of reps tell you a different story because
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: you're probably going to be overmatched a little bit. You
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: don't have Justin Jefferson lining up to help you look good.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, those things change quite a bit, but they
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: are at this point, I think, pretty committed to seeing
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: what both of these guys can do. You know, Kyler
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Murray probably comes in as the certainly the betting favorite
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: publicly to win the job, I think, and I think
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: there's good reason to expect that he'll have a chance
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: to do that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: J J.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: McCarthy will have to show some demonstrable improvement from what
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: he did last year. I think they want to see
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: a little more touch on the ball, a little more,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: the strange decision making, probably at times, figuring out where
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: he can take easy completions and not force the ball
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: down field as much, a lot of those things. If
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: he's going to win the job back, he will have
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: to show he's improved there. But they are, I think,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: at this point, going to take a pretty long, thorough
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: look at both of these guys. You know, I don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: think they want to drag this out until September thirteenth,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: but I think they're going to take the time that
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: they feel they need, especially early in camp, to look
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: pretty thoroughly at both of them and try to make
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: a decision from there.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: It's an easy narrative for us out here in Seattle
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to say, oh, the Vikings have buyer's remorse or seller's
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: remorse and letting letting Sam Darnald go, And you were
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: there when it happened. When was there any opportunity that
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: they even tried to bring him back? Did he just
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: get priced out where the Vikings weren't going to sign
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: him anyway because of his fourteen and three forty five
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: hundred yards season there, or they were already sold on
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: McCarthy so much that it didn't matter. Sam Darnald could
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: have been Joe Montana reincarnated. They weren't going to sign him.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the tricky part of that whole thing was,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, they certainly wanted to keep him, but they
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: knew that the price was going to be a factory wanted.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, they certainly liked the idea of the young
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: quarterback where he's on the rookie deal and you can
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: build the roster around him and make everything work with him. They,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: with McCarthy coming off the injury, I don't think, wanted
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: to be completely all in on him. The way that
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: they ended up being, I mean that the hope was
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: that they bring Daniel Jones back. They made a push
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: to get Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones of course said, I
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: think correctly, Judge it is I have a better chance
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: to win the job with the Colts than I do
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: with the Vikings because JJ McCartney's standing and what they're
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: excited about with him. But Donald, I think it was
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: they knew a market rate offer was going to probably
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: not be in their plan given what they wanted to
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: do defensively, what they're paying justin Jefferson, So was there
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: remorse to letting him go. Yeah, I mean you talk
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: to players in that locker room. I think they would
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: have loved to see Sam Donald back. I think Sam
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Donald had become I mean you saw it at the
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: end of that season where they're lifting them up on
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: their shoulders and in the locker room they're dousing with
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: the water bottles up to beat the packers and all
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: of those things. He had started to build a real
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: connection with that team, and I think if the money
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: was not an issue, they probably would have taken a
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: run of bringing it back. But it was the money
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: and the fact that if it worked with JJ McCarthy,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: they could have that young quarterback to build around for
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: a while. And we'll see if McCarthy can put that
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: back together. It certainly doesn't look at this point like
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: he's got a great chance to do that, But yeah,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: I think in the end, Sandarl's doing what he did,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: winning a Super Bowl in Seattle and looking like the
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Lynch pinned to that franchise for a long time. Yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: there are people in that building.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: In Minnesota that say, yeah, it would have been nice.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: If that happened here. But there's also an understanding of
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: knowing what they knew at the time it was going.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: To be difficult to do it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Is it too simple to say it cost the GM's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: job that decision alone.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's probably too simple.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: There were other factors that caused Coycy to implemented his job.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of it was just how he
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: was building connections and building the ability to work well
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: with the department. You know, with scouts, that's coaches, that's
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: calf people. The draft history was not very good, and
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: that's part of it as well. But yeah, I think
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: you know, nobody wanted to watch on Super Bowl Sunday
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: and see the quarterback the Vikings like, oh, hosting the
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Lombardi Trophy with a lot of former Vikings coaches like
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Clint Kubiak, Andrew Dunoko, et cetera. But I think that
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: the GM shift was probably a little more to it
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: than that. But yeah, now it's Nolan Teasley here who
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: came off with that Super Bowl with Seattle, and they're
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: going to try to hope they can bottle some of
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: that success and transport it East.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Say hi to Nolan Teasley for me, Ben, I appreciate it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I know you're busy, man. I'll let you get to
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: your day job. I appreciate you jumping on with us.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: We'll be watching Jamal Adams and everything else that goes
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: on in Minnesota from far. Thank you, sir, appreciate it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Thanks Greg, I enjoyed it. Thanks for having me. We'll
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: talk to you down the road.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you. Ben Gesling from the Minnesota Vikings
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: training camp in the Twin Cities area. On the emergence
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere, really, if Jamal Adams is a Minnesota Viking,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Nolan Teasley had a hand in that, of course, was
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the assistant general manager and in the front office of
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks under John Schneider when they traded for Jamal
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Adams but a half dozen years ago now, and also
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: talking about the quarterback situation where he says the favorite
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: is Kyler Murray coming from Arizona.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: It's quite interesting it is that JJ.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: They put all their stock in JJ McCarthy, and here
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: they are with Sam Darnold as a Super Bowl champion
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: in Seattle and McCarthy not even having the job in Minnesota.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I have a couple of Minnesota Vikings fans friends, and
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: they are not not.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Happy at all.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: But they also weren't happy with Sam there, so you know, oh,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: like pick your poison, dude.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, they were happy.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: For him now, they were happy to the very end.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Right, Yes, exactly came into we should have done that
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: for us is what their thing is. Well, you couldn't
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: do it, And I'm like, actually, he pretty honestly said,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: as we heard with Softy and Hugh, that it wasn't him,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: it was the team system and that he didn't do
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: for everything that he dreamt of in the Super Bowl.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying right in front of me here at
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the Virginia Mason Athletic practice site, Seahawks camp is already
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: underwegh in full pads. Robbie Oot's interesting to me that
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: he was an inline tight end and a walking drill
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: with the offensive tackles just a few minutes ago. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen that he's been at fullback since the Seahawks
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: drafted him out of Alabama, But he was a two
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy four pounds tight end at Alabama that
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: they converted to fullback last year. This is a fullback
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: centric offense that Brian Fleury's bringing in the Shanahan system
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: from San Francisco is just like Clint Kubiacs. But now
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I mean they still have Brady Russell and the team
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: who plays fullback as well and has played some tight end.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: It looks like a little multiplicity for mister Robbie Utz
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: in his second NFL training camp being an inline tight end.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier Jake Bobo not on the field for
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the second consecutive practice. He has a right leg injury
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: that I've been told maybe a hamstring issue, and hamstrings
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: sometimes take a while. And then Julian Neal the third
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: round picked the cornerback who's a versattle guy who can
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: also play inside and near the line of scrimmage. He
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: has missed the last two practices with the parent leg injury.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Mike McDonald after practice today
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and we'll be asking. I'll be asking about those issues
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: of the injury list issues in particular. So they got
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: full pads and the line of scrimmage play is on
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: their way between the offense and the defense right now,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and they're doing a run dro right in front of
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: me with Sam Donald and the starting offensive line against
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the first and second team defensive line. It's the second
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: team defense against the ones right now and Robbie uts
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: is still an inline tight end in that so.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be pretty interesting.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: But what is the one thing we talked about yesterday
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: so much?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: The biggest word we used. Versatility?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yep, more you can do. Yes, that's an adage in
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the NFL, and it's certainly true here. Jared Ivy, by
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the way, the linebacker last year, the undrafted rookie linebacker.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: They kept on the roster and active for every game
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and they didn't want to expose him to waivers, to
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: to practice squad for fear of someone picked him up
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: because he was that impressive. He's been playing defensive end
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: with his hand on the ground since the spring. He
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: just walked out of the training room late without a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: helmet or cleats on, so he has some kind of injury.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Apparently he's not practicing either. So that's the update of
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: health that I can see from my vantage point here
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: right on the edge of the field.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Only say what you see, Yes.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: That's true. Up next is aj Barner, the tight end.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: We taped an interview with him. Obviously he's not gonna
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: talk to me in the middle of practice right now,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: but he had a shoulder and also an ankle surgery
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl and is way healthier than he
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: was at the end of last season. You'll hear it
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: from aj Barnernecks. At eleven o'clock you're gonna hear from
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup. We had interesting things to say about his
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator and about his belief there should be
• 32:09
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome back, thanks for listening. AHI from the
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Mason Athletics Center in Serix. Training headlines brought to
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  Speaker 2: you by Frostbrew CORSEI Chews Chill Seahawks are right on
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  Speaker 2: the field in front of me right now. A first
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  Speaker 2: morning practice of training camp is also the first one
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  Speaker 2: in full pads. The first snap of the first full
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: pads practice a training camp. The lead running back was
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: hey Jenarian Price. Let's go rookie first round pick. Looks
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: like he is moving up to the role that we
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: all assume he will be in the opener on the
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: ninth of September against New England. Jake Bubbo not out here.
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  Speaker 2: He missed practiced the other day with what I've told
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: might be a hamstring issue. Rookie Julian Neale, the third
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: round pick cornerback, also not out here. He's missing his
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: second consecutive practice with an apparent leg injury. Jared Ivy,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Brandon Peeley, the nose tackle, Ivy the defensive endslash linebacker,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: both of whom just came out of the facility. Looks
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: like they're not practicing either for some kind of medical reasons.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to Mike McDonald after practice and Ian forness
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: during his show twelve to three. We'll also talk to
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks head coach one on one. Mike McDonald here
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: from training camp Barners tonight at the final of the
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  Speaker 2: three game series. In the final game of the road
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: trip in Los Angeles against the Dodgers, after they lost
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  Speaker 2: four to last night, it was four to nothing after
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: seven innings when the Mariners had just one hit. So
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: one night after all that offense, it's back to the
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: norm the Mariners. Last night. Emerson Hancock eight hits, three innings,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: or excuse me, eight hits, three runs allowed in five innings.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Could that be his last start for the Mariners? Rumors
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that he potentially could be the chip jaredy Potle uses
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: to get a right hand at bat before the trading deadline.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: In the Major League's Monday at three pm, the WNBA
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: has fined the Storm and suspended co owner Celeste Keaton
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: from attending the next five home games after exchange with
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: two fans during Tuesday's game against the Indiana Fever Climate Pledgerina.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: The league confirmed that today, according to multiple reports, Keaton
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: had admonished a pair of fans who brought signs in
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the Climate Pledgerina supporting Fever guard Sophie Cunningham following her
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: recent comments about transgender athletes. The fans told undividedpod dot
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Com that Keaton directed expletives at them for a sign
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: that thanked Sophie Cunningham for quote speaking up for girls.
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  Speaker 2: The Storm apologized for the incident yesterday. Yep, Coop, go ahead.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I I was just gonna say that was
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: an interesting thing to see how that all played out
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: and a co owner doing something like that.
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  Speaker 8: It was.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting to say the least.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Back out here at Seahawks training camp, it's one on
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: one passers drills right in front of me, which is
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the most football it gets out of full pads. Cooper
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: cups not taking part of that. He's over on the
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: other end of the field catching passes from Sam Darnold
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: like he always does. The two time Super Bowl MVP.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I asked him in the off season, were you thinking
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: about going out on the high, going out at on
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: top with winging a second Super Bowl, going to your family,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: go back to Yakamon with your kids. And he looked
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: at me like I had three heads, said, no way,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: still love it, Still do it.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I saw him crush us when I say us at
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: the Koog's when he was over at EWU, So yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Right, that's right. He was a Walter Payton Player of
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the Year in Division one Double AFCs at Eastern Washington.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: He wanted to be a Washington Husky like his grandfather,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and Husky didn't even recruit him.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: And he had a chance to leave before his final year.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: He had a chance to leave, he was getting recruited.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: He transfer portal and or whatever he had the ability to.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know if the portal was necessarily open at
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: that time, but he was like, now his quarterback left
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: and he goes, I don't do that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cups spoke at length and was interesting as always.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say at Seahawks training camp.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: All right, Coop, picture of this.
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  Speaker 9: You've got multiple billions of dollars you're gonna buy the Seahawks.
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: What is the first thing you do other than giving
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: yourself a raise?
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: Was the first thing I do?
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: I go and ask Mike what's the thing that he
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: needs for the team?
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: What do you think you?
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: I feel like you wanted it more dynamic answer than that.
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: What would you what would you want to see happen
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: for a football.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Team that you own? I don't know.
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, because I think the coach probably knows what
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: the team needs more than I do, So I'd go
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: talk to Mike and then I'd say, what do you
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: guys need? What what's what's gonna help move the needle,
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: and then I make sure that got done.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: That's fail early about what you can see people right now,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I think it's it's good.
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: There's like enough of a challenge of new things that
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: are added in the guys have to say on top
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: of stuff.
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: Right, Like, I think the the danger you fall into.
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: Is you you have guys come in that just feel
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: like you're running the same exact thing, and you.
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: Get complacent. You think you know the details, think you
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: know the stuff.
• 37:57
  Speaker 10: And so there's enough new things that keep people on
• 37:59
  Speaker 10: their toe and it's fortunately getting your book, it's fortunate
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: to ask questions and forcing you to understand and master
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: what we're doing.
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  Speaker 8: So I've enjoyed that.
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: I've enjoyed the the challenge of that, and you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: I think the coach are doing a great job of
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: getting you know, we're only a few a few days
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: in here, but we've got a lot of stuff in
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: but being willing to answer questions, you know, we we've
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: had to.
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: I think we've installed really quickly.
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: But now we've got the opportunity to you know, dive
• 38:27
  Speaker 10: into things the depth that we're that we want and
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: we need.
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: I know that's coming now.
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: During the scrimmage, I saw you talking to order and
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: when you're showing you some some moves that just can
• 38:39
  Speaker 11: we just talk about the enjoyment you have a dad
• 38:41
  Speaker 11: and him asking and you giving back.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 10: Well, just like I was saying before about you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 10: coaches being open to having you know, being asked questions
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: and having to explain things. I think the you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: one of the more missed things that people don't emphasize
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: is there another coach the player communication, but there's also
• 39:00
  Speaker 10: player to player communication.
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: And you know, I've.
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: You know, been blessed to play this game for quite
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: a while and be able to see quite a few
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: different things. And I love being able to talk to
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: you guys about ball and and guys that are interested
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: in it and are asking good questions and want to know.
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: I love being able to you know, step into that
• 39:20
  Speaker 10: that role and be able to help him out. And
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: and so we talked about all the time here. You know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: being twelve is one mob tize all the things that
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: we live about, live and breathe. You know, it's about
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: the collective being better. How does the collective get better?
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: And that's that becomes with, you know, rooting for the
• 39:37
  Speaker 10: guys next to you.
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: I've heard several guys talk about Brian Floyd that he
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: has really high expectations. I imagine every coach probably dies.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: But how does that show up with him?
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: I guess what kind of Yeah, Well, I think you'd
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: be surprised. I don't think. I don't.
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: I think it can be easy for coaches to kind
• 39:51
  Speaker 10: of get like I said, you know, complacency is a
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: dangerous word, but to get comfortable with, you know, things
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: being run a certain way, and you know, I think
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: that that is something that Brian's like, Brian knows he
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: has a great vision. He's seen a lot of really
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: good football, and so he has an expectation for us.
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: And we don't hit that expectation.
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: You just you're you're it's gonna be Hey, this isn't
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: this isn't how we're gonna do it. This is how
• 40:13
  Speaker 10: we're gonna do it though, And you know there's, uh,
• 40:15
  Speaker 10: there's coaching there involved with that, and.
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: And that's what we want.
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: Be Wan'll be always moving forward, Eagles always always moving forwards.
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: One percent better every day.
• 40:23
  Speaker 12: You said, there's enough differences to keep guys on there,
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: because what about this offense fields are most different?
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: Well, I can't tell you all that, right, it was
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: like the same thing last year. But yeah, I mean,
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: I guess we can go back to that. Like you know,
• 40:40
  Speaker 10: the the wing tea stuff that we've got in is fantastic, right,
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: Like I like the dynamic like you know, receivers and
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: three point stances. I guess gonna be good. So yeah, no,
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: there there's enough stuff. There's enough stuff that I think,
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: you know, he but we know where he came from.
• 40:56
  Speaker 10: But also there's like he's been there enough time to
• 40:58
  Speaker 10: be also grab some stuff like hey, here's some things that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: You know we're gonna do different.
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: There's some details that we want to do that we
• 41:04
  Speaker 10: want to add in, some wrinkles, mix of things that
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: we've done well before.
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: And so there's just, uh, you know, I think there's
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: a good mesh there.
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: And he's done a great job of just coming in
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: with with ideas, great foundation, but new ideas as well.
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: Are you staying from jail and Milroe in his second year.
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: Oh, he's done a great job.
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think, you know, there's uh, you know, I
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: think you with that first year, there's a lot happening,
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: the amount of thinking that's going on. I think he
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: settled into that a little bit, just letting it rip,
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: which is awesome, just letting uh some some some balls
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: go with anticipation that he wasn't last year and it's
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: been pretty prequel.
• 41:39
  Speaker 13: See a lot of these pits of systems have different
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: jumnol If you get a lot of the same play.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: How important do you think it is for like all
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: of it?
• 41:50
  Speaker 11: I think at this level to sellin half more so
• 41:54
  Speaker 11: thank than being just solely grossed on the steam stuff
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: everybody running a lot of missteps.
• 41:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean there's there's a balance to it, right,
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: I think, uh, you know, as a player you need
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: to be as adaptable as possible, and that's that's part
• 42:11
  Speaker 10: of our job. And as a play caller, you should
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: be as comfortable and as much in the flow state
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: of the you know, subconscious competence as you can be. Right, Like,
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: I think the best play callers aren't stuck here looking
• 42:24
  Speaker 10: but they're just calling things. They're just letting the plays
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: come to them and seeing the game, And so I
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: think it's important then that they are able to install
• 42:34
  Speaker 10: and get to us exactly what they see in their
• 42:36
  Speaker 10: head and how they see the game. Now, there's also
• 42:39
  Speaker 10: a level to that of like, you know, here, you like,
• 42:42
  Speaker 10: Sam needs to be able to.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: Communicate it to us.
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: It needs to be clear however that comes across, and
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: so there's a you know, there's layers of communication that
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: happened from Brian to Sam, and Sam to the players
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: and players at the line of scrimmage amongst each other.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: So there's always this level to it.
• 42:56
  Speaker 10: But but that's why I think, you know, Brian has
• 43:00
  Speaker 10: done a great job of owning all of that stuff
• 43:02
  Speaker 10: and then simplifying it down to the point like, hey,
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: this is where Brian's comfortable calling things. Is how he's
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: comfortable seeing the game and calling it, and this is
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: how it fits and makes.
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: Sense for us as players to be able to get
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: the job done.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: How do you feel.
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: You know, I don't know. Mike's kind of like a short,
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: stocky guy.
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: Brian's like tall and skinny, so they kind of have
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: like this nice little evening out to each other.
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 43:26
  Speaker 10: It's it's cool because they're both very like pretty calm,
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: cool collected guys, which makes it fun to you know,
• 43:33
  Speaker 10: work with You're like, yeah, you're there's there's a comfort
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: to bringing questions, bringing thoughts to them as well, like hey,
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: what do you think about this?
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: What?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: What?
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: What do you think this is something that can fit
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: into in terms of what we're doing. And you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: but they also which I think will be good when
• 43:50
  Speaker 10: there are moments where there's gonna be one guy gets
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: heated because they both do have high standards and there's
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: gonna be moments of emotion that come through, but both
• 43:58
  Speaker 10: being able to play off off of each other and
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: know like, hey, there's gonna be you get you get
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: too much emotion going out there can be kind of
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: just a roller coaster of love of emotion. But but
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: you know, you get good guys that can can play
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: in this place like you're playing in this place and
• 44:12
  Speaker 10: not in this one. It's fool to see and they've
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: got a great relationship just in the short time they've
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: been together.
• 44:17
  Speaker 12: So since this is like your tied through a love
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: with training camp whatever it is, do they all feel
• 44:22
  Speaker 12: the same or do you do something different in every
• 44:23
  Speaker 12: training camp or no.
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: They feel pretty similar. I mean the first one is
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: always super different.
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: Is the one that stands out like your a rookie
• 44:31
  Speaker 10: year and you're just not sure what's you know, you
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: have no idea, you have no idea what's gonna be like.
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: But after that first one, it's kind of like it's
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: the same kind of thing. You know, like training camp
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: is what six weeks long?
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Is that? Right?
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Six six seven weeks?
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: So I'm like a little over a year of training camp,
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: NFL training camp for my life, you know. So it's
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: it feels a little bit like Groundhog's Day, but you
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: know that I think the battle is not letting it
• 44:58
  Speaker 10: be too much.
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: Like you don't get too much into that.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Right, you know.
• 45:00
  Speaker 10: I show up a great challenge and Mike does a
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: great job of making sure you got to come to work
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: every day.
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: Uh, you know with your lunch pill and hard hat.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: At this point in your career, pop were how big
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: of pri wishness when it made a play with grass?
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: I mean, that would be sweet. What do you laugh at, guys?
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: I just I don't know.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: I I just.
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: It would be awesome. I've been vocal about it in
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: the past.
• 45:29
  Speaker 10: There's so many moving parts which I get. I I
• 45:35
  Speaker 10: just would love, like, really, what we need to do
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: there's a great crew that works out and that set
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: shut out there. It's a great crew that out there
• 45:43
  Speaker 10: keeps this grass really nice, and just go ask them like, hey,
• 45:45
  Speaker 10: what would it take like, what is it like? What
• 45:47
  Speaker 10: is it really like? What would it look like together?
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: I don't know the grassology of all that stuff, right, Like,
• 45:55
  Speaker 10: you got soccer teams playing on it, you got a
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: lot of stuff happening, You've got events being hosted. I
• 46:01
  Speaker 10: would like to think with all the resources of the
• 46:04
  Speaker 10: NFL that we can make that happen. But yeah, there's
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: there's there's people that can make that happen. We're just
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: gonna keep, you know, as players keep voicing what we
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: what we want and what we think is important. But
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: you know, eventually, I do think it will get done.
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: It makes a huge difference. And I know all the
• 46:26
  Speaker 10: metrics and all the data that says, you know, whatever
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: the injury rates of this, but like, I don't know.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: Know how I feel.
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: I think you asked a lot of players would say
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: the same thing, like whether whether the injury rates change
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: or not.
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: I know how my body feels. I have to play
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: on turf versus grass.
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: You can ask the coaches how their backs feel after
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: standing on turf versus grass. Right, it's like that's a
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: that's a Now they've got coaches have a lot of
• 46:54
  Speaker 10: other issues.
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: So but but they but it does make a.
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: Differences in terms of, well, the coliseum, the colisseum for
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: a few years there, and you know there there's college
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: I mean that's it's southern California, but you know there's colleges.
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: We're playing on that quite a bit. I'm sure they
• 47:15
  Speaker 10: had events and things like that. So it's possible. I
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: know it's possible. It's just uh, you know, it's a
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: conversation that needs to continue.
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: With all the movement towards multiple tight ends, multiple backs,
• 47:25
  Speaker 9: just have your personal fewer receivers on the field, how
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: do you keep from tipping what plays you're doing depending
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: on which receivers are out on the field.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think that's where you know, as receivers, we
• 47:36
  Speaker 10: need to do a good job of making sure we
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: can be you know, you know, multi faceted in terms
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: of what we're what we what we do. We can't
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: be we can't get stuck in this place where we
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: only do one thing. And it's also on the you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: our our play callers and our offensive coaches to make
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: sure that we're not you know, creating tendencies in that
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: way as well, because you know, defenses of coaches, there's
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: not the amount of time that's spent and looking for
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: tendencies and things like any edge. This game's too hard,
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: you know, fighting uphill and you can't be fighting uphill battles.
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: So you know, that's something that we need to be
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: aware of. We need to make sure that we're taking
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: into account and as receivers, we need to make sure
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: that we're doing everything we can when we asked the block,
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: we got blocked, and we rask.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Go down the field.
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  Speaker 10: We go down the field and we make effective plays
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: down there and you know, and all the things in
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: between with that. So that that's, uh, that goes hand
• 48:22
  Speaker 10: in hand with us doing our job and the coach
• 48:24
  Speaker 10: is doing a great job bring us in those positions.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: And there you go.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Cooper cup f from training camp man, he had a
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: lot to say. And Greg Bell is being enthralled right
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: now by I think the Blue Angels practice which is
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: happening right outside at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Uh,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: this is Jasaman McIntyre being rejoined by Greg Bell right now,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: and Greg, I thought that Cooper Cup had some pretty
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: interesting things to say about grass.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: First turf, he said, I know it can be done well.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: He even talked about coaches.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, he's talked about it before. And that's
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: kind of why I started the questioning the line of
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: questioning I did, so somebody on Twitter x that I
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: was goading him into those answers. I was not. I
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: knew that he had talked before and was spoke, had
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: spoken out against grass and or against turf. And he's
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: played his career except for when the Rams played at
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Colisseum. He's played on turf. It's so
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: far and now Seattle and Eastern Washington. But when the
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Rams are the Colisseum. You heard Cooper Cup mentioned they
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: still had all kinds of incidents. They had a NASCAR
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: race in the Los Angeles Coliseum when the Rams. Yeah,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: So his point is they could do it. They have
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: concerts and he even said, hey, look at the dudes
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: at the end of the field here that the guys
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: say they practice on grass, natural grass in January in
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the rain. Here. McDonald leading into the Super Bowl last year,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: had them outside the entire season, including in sideways, rain
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: and forty degrees. It's possible. It just takes money, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: that's why the owners haven't done it. That if no
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: one in the NFL makes the owners do it, they
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: won't do it. Fifteen of the thirty owners have grass fields.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: The other fifteen haven't been compelled to, so they're not
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: doing it because why would you cut into your own revenues.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: That's local revenue that you're taking away. You're spending money
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: on your own field. And if you're not forced by
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: the league or a collective barty agreement or anybody else,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: then why would you give up some of your billions
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: of dollars of revenue? The Green Bay Packers last week
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Jessman issued their annual report. It's the only NFL team
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: who opens its books to the public. Why do they
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: do that? Of course, because the Packers are the only
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: team publicly owned.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: I found my hometown on their wall.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, right, yeah, because everybody everywhere has shares of
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: the Packers. Yes, but because they are publicly owned, they
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: are required to file their financials.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Every year, which is awesome.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: They have a stockholder meeting and all the fans that
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: own stocks are shares, are invited to come to Green
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Bay and here from the president and the general manager.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: It's unlike any other place in the NFL for many reasons,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: including that one. But as such they have to open
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: their books. The books showed that the Packers last year
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: made four hundred and twenty three million dollars just in
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: national revenue and licensing media rights, the revenue that all
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: thirty two teams share. So what's that mean. The Seahawks
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: made four hundred and twenty three million dollars last year
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: in national revenue, licensing and media rights we talked before.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: It's the delta above those national rights. That's where teams
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: separate themselves. The local revenue in the stadium and signage
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: and in local advertising agreen that's where they make their money.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: So it would take out of those local revenues owners
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: putting in new grass that costs some money. It cost
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: some new money to redo the grass and to reinstall
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: grass fields like Pittsburgh does in the middle of the season.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: The point is it can be done. The question isn't
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: can it be done? It's in the Northwest and the
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: winner in the rain. The question is will it be done?
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: And the new owners, the Kosala family, have an opportunity here,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying it's going to be as soon
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: as they get here. They have a lease that's still
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: running through twenty thirty, and then there's three ten year
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: options on the lease from Lumenfield in ten year blocks
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: that the Seahawks and Lumenfield can exercise after twenty thirty.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying sometime eventually, if not before, in a
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: new CBA, the current CBA in the NFL NS in
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: twenty thirty. I think my opinion from covering this league
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: and talking to players who say their quality of life
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: is affected by turf games and that they feel so different.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Like Cooper Cup said, I think it should be a
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: elective bargain issue and players should say, hey, if you
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: want an eighteenth game, or you want all these other things, owners,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: put in grass, We'll start talking about an eighteenth game
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: or anything else if you put in grass on every field.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: And they've yet, they've been reluctant to do that so far.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: They just talk in this rhetoric and JT. Tretdor, the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: union president, talks about how the players don't want turf
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: and but they don't go to the mat on a
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: CBA negotiation over it, and I think that's what it's
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: going to take for somebody to mandate teams to put
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: in grat Do you.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Think that would rank in their prioritization.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. Yes, for veteran players, it's higher
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: than younger players, right.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: And they have the bigger say the veterans.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Well, they do in voice, but they don't in voting
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: because the younger players the rank and file minimum salary.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Young guys make up sixty plus percent of the union.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: That's why the last CBA got ratified because the owners
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: split the union. They raised the minimum salary from four
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: hundred eighty thousand to seven hundred and forty thousand, a
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: huge jump. So a twenty three, twenty four year old,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: undrafted rookie said, wait a minute, you want me to
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: vote for a deal that will increase me from four
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: to eighty to seven forty Sign me up for that.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: They didn't care about everything else. They didn't care about
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: the extra regular season game. They didn't care about the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: drug testing policies. They didn't care about Roger Goodell's wide
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: sweeping powers, the discipline like the veterans did, or the
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: pension plans or the quality life issues after playing. The
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: veterans did, and the veterans hated the old the CBA
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: that got signed into twenty twenty one. So it'll take
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: the younger players to get on board because they have
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: the voting block, they take the majority of the vote.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: It only takes a majority vote to ratify a CBA,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: and in fact it only ratified by a couple hundred vote.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: I save one hundred and ninety votes or something like
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: that over thousands of players. My point, long winded point
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: of all this is the Seahawks owners, the new owners
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: can affect this if they want to. Will they be
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: compelled to? Will they want to do it anyway without
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: being compelled to be friends with their players. This isn't
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: something that's going to happen this year. You're next year
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: when I have grass and luminfield next two years. I'm
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: not saying that down the road, yes, I'm talking long
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: term down the road. You heard with side Cooper cup
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  Speaker 4: and thank you. Also one more thing, just got this
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: from the sports pit. Mike McDonald will be joining Ian
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: for announced.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah I said that earlier. I didn't get a Ted Copple, right,
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  Speaker 2: lind Well.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: I just want everyone to know it'll be in the
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: New Hour and wanted to make it a headline because
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know if we have mentioned it too much,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: because you can never announce that too much. So anyway, yes,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Ted Copple, Wow, nice throwback, right.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: I used to watch Nightline. I watch I'll watch Alcam
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  Speaker 2: Pannis torpedo his career live on Nightline with Ted Coalk.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Oh man, that was like before social media, you actually
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: got to watch things happen in real time.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I just in the New Hour.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I heard practice supposed to end right around that time,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: so it'll be soon after he comes off the practice
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: film four nine four one is the commodage tex sne
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: or the talkbacks on the got some talkbacks kids out
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: dot com? What do you think about grass? Does it
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: matter to you as a fan? Not that grass?
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you really need to speak.
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  Speaker 2: I got it, I got it. Go in Washington, Ware,
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• 57:28
  Speaker 14: Hey guys, Jack Jamison here regarding Jamal Adams. What are
• 57:33
  Speaker 14: the memories that sticks with me? Is when the Seahawks
• 57:37
  Speaker 14: played a primetime game and they introduced the defense and
• 57:42
  Speaker 14: he said, I'm the best safety in the game. Cringeworthy,
• 57:47
  Speaker 14: just cringeworthy, just like softy.
• 57:49
  Speaker 15: My last travel with Jamal Adams was one word, and
• 57:52
  Speaker 15: it's the same word that can describe his whole career.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Yeesh, I knew that would get summary action if you
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: asked about Jamal Adams in Seattle. I mean, ycome back.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I'm at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center with Jessmon ncintyre,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell. Fifth practice of training camp, first one in
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: pads and the very first snap from the first eleven.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: On eleven of a padded training camp practice, jederary in
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Price was the lead running back. Devin Eastern, the rookie
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: nose tackle from Minnesota seventh round pick, had been on
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: the physically unable to perform list. He's now off of
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: that and he is practicing for the first time today,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: like the first day in pads. Mike McDonald, Remember he's
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: talking to Ian Ferness right after twelve. Your chance to
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• 58:46
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• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna tach cople you again just
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: for five. That was just fun for me.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: We did have another entry to our talkbacks, and some
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: of them are actually still coming in, so but I'm
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: going to play this one for you.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: It's another subject. It's also kind of fun.
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: Hey, Greg, this is Habu Kou Chief here, and I
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: think the Seattle Mariners should trade for Jimothy because Jimothy
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: he came and he gave with that take in and
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: we need him today.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, Jimothy, he.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: Came and we gave with that take.
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: And we need him today. Air Force rules, Army drools.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I know you would not like the end part, but
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: you must really love talkbacks if you play that.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's fun, that's creative and for people to
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: take time out of their day to contribute to our
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: show and be that funny and also a reference Jimothy,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: I mean it was trendy, it was on point, on
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: key too.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: I was with it anyway. That uh so far as
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: what has stood out to me.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: But we do have some people who are interested in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: the grass and we're talking about field turf people.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 15: Just so they made an indoor ski resort in the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 15: middle of the desert in Dubai. I think we can
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 15: make grasswork in Seattle.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Yep, Cooper Cup of Dreams with that. Yeah, it's not
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: a matter of can it be done, It absolutely can
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: be done. A matter will it be done? Yeah, I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: think that. I don't. That's seems to me be indisputable.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, go ahead, No, I was just gonna say one
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: can be done. I mean we if we know that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: you've said it a bunch of times how it can
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: be done, what it can be done, Like, we know
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: it's just money, we have new ownership, and also there's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of logistics that will have to go into it.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: From the Tex line four nine four five one at
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Takoma Doodge text line four two five says, no one
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: is forcing them to play football. They don't want to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: play on grass and don't play.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, oh that's not really feasible.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: So you're saying that you should just retire from football
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: if your team is artificial turk.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: Essentially, Yes, I do understand when these complaints come out,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: and I get it when people hear complaints from multimillionaires
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: complaining about things that don't affect people's regular lives. But
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: this is their life and that is their career, and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: they do have a say in it. And I know
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: it might seem just innocuous, but no, they should have
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: a say in it.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Two five three. I would wait trade George Kirby to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: the Cubs for Matt Shaw to play third base for
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: the next five years. I would trade Emerson Hancock to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: get a left fielder. I would trade Randy Away for
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: whatever prospects we can get and Lastly, i'd bring up
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Kate Anderson at the same time Hancock. Trade both of them,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: you'd be cutting two fifths, well two six I.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Guess rotation, and I know they're in full rotation now.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: That would be bold.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: The thing about the Cubs is they're trying to get
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Trek Scouble among the Dodgers and a bunch of other
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: people who would love to have them. But so I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: don't know if Matt Shaw would even be available to
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: the Mariners if they wanted to trade George Kirby to
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: the Cubs on the same vein two o six. I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: think George Kirby would be the best to trade. If
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: you can't move Castillo, Kirby, Gilbert Wu. Brian M. We'll
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: all have contracts come up in quick succession. Brian Wu.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I think he meant, yeah, moving Kirby and keeping Hancock
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: gives the m some breathing room between contacts contracts. Also,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: when Kirby first came up, I believe they said he
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: basically used two pitch a size things. He's destined for
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: the bullpen. Since I assume he's know Randy Johnson, well,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: he's evolved since he first came out. Also, he likes
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: to throw mostly in the strike zones, so when his
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: location goes wrong, he's prone to get rocked. Like his
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: last start two five to three. Jamal Adams set the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: sack record for defensive back because the Seahawks played him
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: as an edge rusher because he was so bad at
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: defending the passol If you look at his win weight
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: against offensive lineman during that season, it was one of
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: the worst in the league. Who got his money and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: all that was left was a big, talking, underperforming player.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, that is what they got.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: And it's unfortunate because one of my favorite plays that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: he ever made was tackling pat the Patriot, and I
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: know there was like a lawsuit and everything when he
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: did it at the Pro Bowl. I still loved it
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: because I hate the Patriots that much.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Spoken like a Jets fan.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: You know what a self inflicting wound.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: Right there, we had a late incoming talk pact. I'm
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: going to play for you.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: Random thought. Did they ever look across the street at
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: the Mariners. They have grass.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: Obviously it's not football, but they play eighty one games
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: a year there along with concerts and you name it,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: hockey games.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: You name it.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: Where's that been in this whole discussion about grass?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: Just curious.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: It's fair point.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: They do have contests or concerts, and they have other
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: events beside baseball.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like Taylor Swift here at.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: One point that was a women field.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my bad, my bad.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: The no concern four, no concerns on grass? Where did
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: that go? Coming grass in the practice facility is a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: first step. They don't control women field unless they want
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: to practice on the surface they will play on, which
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: makes sense. Maybe leave one field turf field at the vMac.
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  Speaker 2: They have a turf field here, it's inside. McDonald doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like to go inside because he likes his players to
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  Speaker 2: practice in the conditions they're gonna play in.
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  Speaker 3: I do like that.
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  Speaker 2: But the reason they don't practice on the artificial turf field,
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  Speaker 2: even though they're going to play a home game on it,
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  Speaker 2: is because the players don't like it. They don't want
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  Speaker 2: to go day day day, day day, and then game
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  Speaker 2: all on turf. It's hard on their legs, it is,
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  Speaker 2: And people can dispute that, and the NFL can put
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: up injury numbers that say there's no appreciable difference between
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: grass and turf. The fact is veteran players who've been
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: playing on turf for years, over years feel it. And
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: you heard Kup talk about it. He said there's a big,
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  Speaker 2: complete difference between how his body feels the day after,
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  Speaker 2: in the days in the week after a turf game
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  Speaker 2: versus a grass game. He says, I know how my
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: body feels. I don't need any studies to tell me that.
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  Speaker 2: The fact is that there is money to do this,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody's forcing the owners to do it. So they're
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: not doing it, period. That's the end of the discussion.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Until they're told to do it, They're not gonna be
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: forced to do it, and they're not gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: There's gonna be half, roughly half the league and including
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  Speaker 2: some climates like Pittsburgh and Cleveland and the frozen tunder
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  Speaker 2: at Green Bay, for heaven's sakes, is grass. It's a
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  Speaker 2: hybrid with turfs and instilled in it and has a
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: very elaborate heating system under lambeau Field. Yeah, Chicago has grass,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the whole It's rains here in the winter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So what it can be done. It's just you know,
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  Speaker 3: if and where's the payoff? Is it worth it?
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  Speaker 4: That's That's when it comes to investments, right, is is
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: it worth it?
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  Speaker 2: Forty five has an opinion on the Bryce Miller, who
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: was originally scheduled to start tonight in Dodger Stadium and
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: then Brian Wiu was moved up. Remember the six man
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: rotation gives them some flexibility because of that adequate rest
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: to do these kind of things. But now Bryce Miller
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: is starting Friday night against Tomorrow night against the Minnesota Twins.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Here at the Art and Soto Miller fortune vases. Miller
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: being pushed out a day makes no sense unless they
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: are working on a deal for him, especially with wo's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: home road split. That's a theory all that. Last night
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: after the game, all manager Dan Wilson said was Bryce
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Miller needed to be pushed back a day. That's it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: They didn't elaborate, that's it, and you didn't expect them
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: to four to five. Thanks for all the reporting you
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: do during the Hawks, especially with all the many things
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: you have going on. Can you update us on what
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: the feel is like having hard knocks around. For those
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: who didn't hear your interview with Softy and Dick yesterday,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: are you making a cameo? No? Laugh? Out loud. I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: have concern. I have a concern, and this is an
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: distraction for the team. The US Coast Guard listener semper paratus,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you US Coast Guard. There is some concern about
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: revealing too much because the cameras are in the meeting rooms,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: they're in the position rooms, they're in they they're going
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: to handheld cameras walking around the locker room, and the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: boom mics are everywhere, I mean every huddle, behind the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: play boom mics are everywhere. I mean they're just overhead
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: recording everything. So there is some concern that Mike McDonald
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: has this culture, in this brotherhood in the locker room.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want the rest of the leagu's seeing it.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: He thinks it's unique and the reason they won the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl last year. The players think that too, and
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: they just don't want to share that. There is that concern,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: but the Seahawks do have some editing capability. They get
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: to review the episode about a day and a half
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: thirty six hours or so before it airs. The first
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: one airs on Tuesday, August the fourth. The last one
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: airs on September the first in for NaNs, the Mayor
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: and Maple Valley is saying. Right next to me here
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: at the edge of the practice field, they're still practicing.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Ian will tell me what he has up next beside
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald. Just afternoon on ninety three point three, kJ
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: r up. Then he set up to welcome back Greg Bell,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: just to knock and tire. Now Ian Finess here at
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Seahawks training camp and renting right along.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: With my favorite people.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate that. Checks in the mail. Practice just
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: ended and now we were waiting Mike McDonald's arrival, Nick
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Bennett's arrival as well. We're gonna go talk to Nick
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Bennette the in our show. We'll play that interview tomorrow.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 13: Jealous, man, I'm jealous. Is that one of my favorite
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 13: guys he's back. I know, one of my favorite guys. So,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 13: you know, I was telling somebody when he came back,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 13: and so one of the PR guys, I said, it's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 13: probably nice to have Avnett back, right, and they're like, yeah,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 13: I said, the last year he was here was it
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 13: twenty nineteen?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Right, twenty nineteen before they traded into Pittsburgh.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 13: Vnette and kJ Wright for US TV nerds Gold go
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 13: to because anytime they lost I'd ask for those guys
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 13: and they'd always do it, and uh and kJ became
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 13: a running joke. He's like, you ever talked to me
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 13: when we went like, well, probably, but I appreciate you
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 13: doing this. And Benett was the same way, just a
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 13: first class guy.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Good dude.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 13: I'm curious as to why he's here. He's well traveled
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 13: since he left. I was going through it. He plays
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 13: eleven teams, right, I think so? And this is his
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 13: twelve stop. Yes, yeah, second time here. But I'm just like,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 13: why is he this? I don't want to sound that
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 13: way that tight end room is loaded?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Is he here because of the Rams? Download? He played
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: for the Rams the N West? I don't think teams
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: do that, do you? I mean not over?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 13: No, I I don't know. It's interesting now you've asked,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 13: you got you gotta know. See that's a tight ends coach,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 13: that's right. Seven years are the tight ends more involved? Yes,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 13: I've already seen it on the field, So there we go.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 13: I guess that answers it, right, But there's still roster spots.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 13: You are you going to de goot an extra roster
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 13: but to an extra tight end? Well, let's go. I
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: mean Salbert Arroyo Barnes on the team. Correct, there's three right,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 13: call up. He's been the practice squad guy who's been
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 13: on the fringe. Okay, today they had Robbie Oots in
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 13: line tight end in Yeah, positioned.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Well, then you got it.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 13: Then we're all into the definition. We're getting into the
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 13: hardcore football world of like who's who is? What's the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 13: tight end? Yeah, that's kind of like what's the defensive
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 13: end of in this defense? That's right, there's the defensive end?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 13: Is the rush linebackers?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: That's what? Right, So it's a whole different deal. But
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I told Mike McDonald. I asked Mike McDonald about switching
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Jared Ivy to a hand on the ground defensive end.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: He got very defensive McDonald did, And Okay, oh it's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: not it's talk about outside rushers and yeah, all of that. Yeah,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: what stuck out that You gotta look watch a little
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: bit practice than I did.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 13: Just seeing the running backs kind of gives you a
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 13: little bit better field. Jacrdi Wright had a couple nice
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 13: little runs. I saw he's moved up to get some
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 13: one reps less. Yeah, so that was good. Uh, you know,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 13: he had your obligatory scuffle. Yes, Christian Haynes. I'm not
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 13: sure who he's involved with, but he got it. But
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 13: it was very quick and short lifts, so it wasn't much.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 13: But yeah, here we go, man do today. I got
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 13: a guy named Mike McDonald coming on hur segment. Yeah,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 13: he's gonna go talk to you guys here in the podium.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 13: He's gonna make his way over here. So I'm looking
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 13: forward to doing that. I haven't talked to him one
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 13: on one since the day he was hired. Introduced here.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 13: We did a little side room over there. A lot
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 13: has changed since then, has Yeah, I get it. Had
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 13: a chance talk to the head coach. Pretty excited about that.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 13: You know, Sarah Stocking baseball on the one o'clock hour.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 13: But the main stay, the headliner, besides the Blue Angels
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 13: in the background, Greg, I know their navy is Mike
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 13: McDonald in the first segment today.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That's coming up next with Ian Vanessa Anderson Hurst, Greg Bell,
• 1:12:06
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