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Episode 6.25: Obliterated, Annihilated, Decimated, Humiliated · Return to Glory - Nebraska

• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Return to Glory podcast. Nebraska loses fifty six seven.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: To Indiana.
• 0:33
  Speaker 3: That's it, that's it.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, I'm done.
• 0:37
  Speaker 4: I was just saying before we hopped on, I knew
• 0:39
  Speaker 4: that I didn't get to watch the second half, and
• 0:41
  Speaker 4: I knew it went south. And I didn't receive a
• 0:43
  Speaker 4: single text message from Hunter. Thought he might have not
• 0:46
  Speaker 4: come home from that one.
• 0:48
  Speaker 5: Almost didn't. You had car troubles too, didn't you.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we're recording it ten fifteen on a
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: Monday night and I'm sitting outside in the rain.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Don't wake my roommate up.
• 1:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, hilarious.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: This is what I deserve.
• 1:07
  Speaker 5: No more games. That's no more away games.
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: What what point of the game did you end up
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: leaving on her?
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: How much time was left?
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: Third quarter?
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, I'm shocked. Really, I thought you were stuck
• 1:22
  Speaker 4: it out for four quarters.
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: I saw enough.
• 1:30
  Speaker 5: It was rough. Not a great game. Uh, not what
• 1:38
  Speaker 5: anyone expected.
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
• 1:46
  Speaker 6: Mean your offense wasn't. I mean, it's terrible. But the
• 1:49
  Speaker 6: most shocking barbers or defense, how bad they looked?
• 1:53
  Speaker 3: They couldn't. Indiana coad scored whatever they wanted.
• 1:56
  Speaker 4: I tried to send this text before the game got
• 1:59
  Speaker 4: like before the first snap, but my phone took forever
• 2:01
  Speaker 4: to send it.
• 2:02
  Speaker 5: But straight up when we took the fields, like, there
• 2:05
  Speaker 5: is no.
• 2:05
  Speaker 4: Energy out there. I was like, we're gonna get killed.
• 2:08
  Speaker 4: They do not look creaty to play this game. And
• 2:12
  Speaker 4: then it just went south from.
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: There, even gout.
• 2:16
  Speaker 6: Johnson lost the energy about oh, I'd say second quarter.
• 2:20
  Speaker 6: He had no energy either. He was like, oh, and
• 2:22
  Speaker 6: he has scored another touchdown. There's no energy f announcers
• 2:26
  Speaker 6: or anything.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Oh hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, they just
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: scored again.
• 2:36
  Speaker 5: Rumor has it they're still scoring.
• 2:39
  Speaker 4: And Hunter can be found at a gas station playing
• 2:42
  Speaker 4: slots somewhere between here in Indiana.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: Pretty much what happened seven am on Sunday. Yeah, game
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: gets over. We go straight back to the Airbnb, sulk
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: everything in. Sorry, game didn't get over. We left before
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: the game got over. Uh, get up to leave at
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: six am. We make it about thirty minutes down the road.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: Car breaks down. Guess what Sunday morning. There's no toe
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: company awake. They gotta toe our car. Then we got
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: to get an uber because the only place we can
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: find a replacement rental is a an hour back east
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. We backtrack an hour after we waited two
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: hours for the tow truck for an hour uber ride,
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: so our ten hour trip back home took about fifteen.
• 3:36
  Speaker 5: At that point almost considered just flying out Indianapolis.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: And ticket prices were way too expensive and there's nothing
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: that would have got us back much quicker.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: It was looked at. So yeah, that was how my
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: Sunday went.
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: Bundra Palm though, No, that was Bloomington.
• 3:56
  Speaker 5: What was the pregame like?
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, uh, Friday.
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: Was the best road game I've been on, and then
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: pregame Saturday morning one of the best Saturday morning road
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: games I've been on, and then at about eleven fifteen
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: had the worst next thirty six hours of my life.
• 4:30
  Speaker 4: Shucks, that is too good man, and I really want
• 4:34
  Speaker 4: us to beat Signetti.
• 4:36
  Speaker 5: I really did.
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: I just got a list of words I want to
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  Speaker 1: read off to you guys.
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  Speaker 5: This is a good.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is this is just this is all I
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  Speaker 1: got for the podcast today. Here's here's my words. Obliterated, embarrassed, eviscerated, dominated, annihilated, decimated, eradicated, disemboweled, dissipated, mortification.
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure why I thought of that one? Discomposed, humiliated, demolished, dismantled, squelched, devastated.
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  Speaker 2: Guy's got any other's dad?
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  Speaker 5: Repeatable?
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  Speaker 3: Not ready?
• 5:18
  Speaker 4: Saturday is coming soon, another big noon kickoff.
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  Speaker 6: There's one thing I read today that I'm like, what
• 5:29
  Speaker 6: the hell? Matt Rules was talking about how the guys
• 5:32
  Speaker 6: weren't ready to play. You're coming off of bye week,
• 5:35
  Speaker 6: how you're playing top fifteen team on the road.
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  Speaker 3: How are you not ready to play?
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  Speaker 2: He did say that we thought we'd play great.
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  Speaker 5: He thought we did stop fighting, so.
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  Speaker 2: Did Signetty One? Team played great?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'll give Deane. I think they are for real,
• 6:00
  Speaker 6: like really really good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh yeah, I mean you better hope you hope
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: they are is just that bad.
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  Speaker 6: But no, I think they're actually really really I mean
• 6:13
  Speaker 6: their quarterback guy taking out of the game, they didn't
• 6:15
  Speaker 6: miss a beat, that backup still towards it.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know their backup was in guys, I'll
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: be honest with you.
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: Oh he looked good too.
• 6:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he played a good chunk of the second half,
• 6:29
  Speaker 5: missed one pass.
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: Didn't know that. I literally literally got by. Oh here
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: comes the rain. That's just lovely.
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know their starter broke his thumb
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: or what he did.
• 6:39
  Speaker 5: But you like, uh, yeah, because Thom was bleeding on TV.
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah I thought you had to leave for that. I
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: guess not.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, they played about just as good as
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: Curse Rourke. And that's how I didn't even single digit number. Also,
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: I was just checked out.
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  Speaker 5: So that's rough.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah I can, I can. I can change my mood
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but not much.
• 7:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, you're literally sitting in the rain talking about
• 7:07
  Speaker 5: his game.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is exactly like sitting there watching the
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: game like I had no words. There's nothing good happening.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: We all just like we're watching and we're like, what's happening?
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: Like Indiana is out coaching and out playing every single
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: like basically every play in every spot of the play,
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: to be honest.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: Like what was the bright spot? Name the bright spot?
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: I do have one? I have one spot.
• 7:45
  Speaker 5: I honestly don't know that.
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 7:53
  Speaker 6: Nonny had a good game like that that was the
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  Speaker 6: one that had.
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: But that's it, Like that's it, that's that's everything.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: I was speechless.
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't even like to your point, Dak of talking
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: to me and I still don't. I'm sitting here like
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: two days later. I'm just like I don't have thoughts still.
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: I've been scrambling and listening to podcasts and like hearing
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: what other people are saying and like trying to come
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: up with my own opinions and thoughts like I did
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: to myself. We all did, like it's like it's something
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: that hasn't happened yet, especially under rule. But even since
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: we've started this podcast, all be honest.
• 8:38
  Speaker 4: With our second biggest loss in the big in our
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: era big ten era Z corrects, our first biggest loss
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: since two.
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  Speaker 3: Thousand, didn't know how to stay bet sixty three or
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: three or something like that.
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: Ye, second biggest loss since other ones Ohio State, but
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: even Michigan when we got blown out by them, like
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: that was a little bit maybe expected.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: This was.
• 9:03
  Speaker 5: Michigan was like a favorite to win the national championship.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still am. I'm just like still an utter shock.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: And I mean all those words, I guess whatever you
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: want to say. I mean, embarrassed was a big one
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: that just kept coming too my mind and over and
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: over world use that word embarrassed, not the players but himself,
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: and how that was and he apologized, which it is
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: what it is, Guys, I will say this, and I'm
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: not going to go into this deep, so I don't
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: want to spend the pod guys talking about it. This
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: was the first time, and I'm not going to be
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: the only one that says this that you just put
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: a little question mark after Matt Ruhle's name at Nebraska.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: So you don't. I'm not saying you should be fired.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: But I the first time I sat there in the
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: second half and I was like, I was, I was confused.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what you know? You want to believe in him?
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: And still can?
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: I still do, but I started to think, Okay, and
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: this is a big topic of conversation. Kurt Signetti comes
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: from James Madison brings a handful of guys with them,
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: not the whole roster, but a lot of them.
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: I think it was like thirteen players thirteen.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: Starters or having only eight starters.
• 10:20
  Speaker 5: Okay, only eight out of twenty.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Two, correct, But many of the more that play guys
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: that I guess know how to win, which I think
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: I got overlooked.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: It's his first year. Oh guess what.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: Indiana's just this tremendous glorious football school, right with a
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: lot of history and tradition resources, and you know nil
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: boosters have this crazy sellout streak.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: No, like they don't. And you sit there and you're like,
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: what the hell?
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: And then I had the kind of the same feeling
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: with Illinois when Brett Bielima went there and beat us
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: that opening game a few years ago. Was at that
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: game too. Uh, It's like, how does this keep? Like, yeah,
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: just just question it, I guess I I we always
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: say give it time, give it, trust the process, believe
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: you know, if you don't give him enough time, you
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: can't ever fix it. Maybe I don't know, Like I
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: just I'm kind of at a little bit of a
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: loss for words right now. Again I'm not saying fire rule,
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: but this is the first time that I just have
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: a question mark next to it of that was weird.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: So how strange I hear what.
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: You're saying I did before the game started. I think
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: this led to the There's two things that happened before
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: the game started where.
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh shit, this game is going to
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: go poorly.
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: It was one when I saw that guy's go out
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: on the field on defense and I was like, they
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: do not look ready.
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: For what's about to happen.
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  Speaker 4: And two, when when I was watching, they were talking
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: about the James Madison transfers that came over and the
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: record that he had at James Madison and that at
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: OC and DC were with them at James Madison. I
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: was thinking, you know, because you asked on Wednesday, why
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: is Indiana where they are when Matt Rules a year
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: two And I was like, well, Matt Rule wasn't in
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: college football for two and a half years, and so
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: he didn't bring any guys.
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: And I think that that's what's helped Indiana is that
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: Indiana like there is continuity there.
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: This isn't their first year. I mean it was their
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: first year Indiana in a Big ten. Like, I'm not
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: saying that we shouldn't be better than them, but you're right,
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: they won a shit ton of games of James Madison
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: with these guys, they know the system, they know the plays,
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: and then they were able just to plug in better
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: players and we absolutely got our shit kicked in. And
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: I think that's why they're where they are and where
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: we are where we are. I think that they just
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: had they have not a head start, but kind of.
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: One major thing came out of the game.
• 13:01
  Speaker 6: And and I've been saying this since he got hired,
• 13:04
  Speaker 6: Scott Saderfield lost his job.
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: That dude, huh.
• 13:08
  Speaker 6: What's his name, Marcus, Marcus Sadderfield lost his job. There
• 13:15
  Speaker 6: is Yeah, I think that Cincinnati's something, But Marcus, he
• 13:22
  Speaker 6: I've been saying that since he got hired. That dude sucks.
• 13:24
  Speaker 6: He has no no Creativity's played calls at all. And
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can't blame it all on the offense,
• 13:32
  Speaker 6: but you can do anything offensively and you have a
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: five star quarterback.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: How do you not look better offensively?
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: So okay, I well, first off, I don't think you're
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: going to see any immediate changes to the staff.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: But what the hell did we do for two weeks?
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: But it was it was just strange and it looked
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: like the exact same offense. Obviously, Indiana exploited us, and
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: I'll say it one time, can I'll p forget, but
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: they kicked her ass in every spot of the game,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: and especially out coaches. I do not think Indiana has
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: that much better of.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Players in Nebraska. I don't think that.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: I think they out coached and out schemed us to death.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: And Signetti said it before the game in its pregame
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: interview said, I think we have a good shot to
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: play well today. He saw something on film and said,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: if Nebraska's not gonna show us anything new, which we didn't,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: we're gonna win and we're gonna be fine. And that's
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: with more than what happened. Credit to Indiana. They did
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of good things. Now the flip side of
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: that back to what did we do for two weeks.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Our offense is the most predictable thing in this entire
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: in it and you sit there and you watch it,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: there's very little pre snap motion. That something I've heard
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: talked about a lot. And we sat there during the
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: game just watching Indiana versus Nebraska. Indiana's got guys running
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: all over pre snap confusing. We are very basic. It's
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: very predictable. When you bring in Alex Bullock on the
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: perimeter and you put Jacry Barney in the slot, guess
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: what we're running a jet SUITEP and it's not. Doesn't
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: It doesn't take a rocket science coach. You figure that out.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: It is so predictable on what we tried to do. Indiana,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: on the other hand, you never knew if they were
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: running or passing it and it kept us like it
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: almost was like we were trying to guess and we
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: just guessed wrong every time because if they ran it.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: There are a couple of times that yeah, maybe we
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: had we filled the hole and they stopped them for
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: three yards, but there was a big hole to run
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: through and sod early on, there are a couple of
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: opportunities to get off the field.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: The first couple of.
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  Speaker 1: Drives, we did the one drive, but once things started
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: going south, they just kept going south. And that seems
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: to when that happens with this team, like we're a
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: team like that wants to play from with the lead
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: because car Coffins is not great. So to deck your
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: point on our offense and changing and what we did
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: for two weeks, I don't know the answer to that,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: but something better change moving forward. And I don't want
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: to spend much of this podcast talking about what I
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: think for the rest of the year. I think that's
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: something for a later date and I think someone remember
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: which guys said it, because by the way, I on
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: that fifteen hour drive, I listened to every recap pod
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you can think of every game is how much do
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: you judge off of one game? I think every game
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. Do I think we went and
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: played Indian again tomorrow, would we get beat by forty nine? No?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Would they beat us nine times out of ten? I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: think so because I think that they just kicked their button.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I don't have any confidence that we can. But I
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: do think you cannot look at saying Okay, Iowa is
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: not very well.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I always looked really good some weeks, really bad Wisconsin.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Now they've looked really good, really bad. Things are going
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: to change by the time we play these other teams
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: later on. But I don't want to think about what
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: this means for the rest of the year yet. But
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: at the same time, judging off of this game, it's
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: not that hard to go. We might not make a
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Bowl game like it's very easy for your mind to
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: go there based off of that one game's performance. However,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I am not jumping off the idea that Indiana now
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: maybe Indiana, but that there's still ten teams in the
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Big Ten and we're still one of them that are
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: in that one big tier that anybody can beat in anybody,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you know, four times out of ten to six times
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: out of ten. I still think that's a true statement
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: with these teams that are left in our skins, so
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: not to overreact, but at the same time, I think
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: it's I think this game, it's just hard to not
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: think that way after how bad it got and it did.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: It looked like the guys gave up. World didn't think
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: they did. It just looked like, I couldn't say it. It
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: looked like kind of that tail end of the Frost
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: days where it just looked like we had no fighting
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to select in that game in the stands now, obviously
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: score was it was. I didn't stay to the end
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: of the game, but it just it was. It was
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: just horrible.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: It was a complete obliteration of Nebraska football.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm telling you it didn't look like we
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: were gonna have much fight from the beginning. It really didn't.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Now that, how do you like the all white uniforms?
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: Oh, I thought it looked really I liked them going
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: in the game. I was like, yeah, now I think
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: about Austin. There was like no energy coming out of
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: that game at all, like the beginning of it. Now,
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Indiana looked like they were fired up to be there.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: Nebraska even the first drive.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Because they got they got the ball first, right, Yeah, yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: just no energy on the defense at all.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: We differ, what we differ, We've always deferred. We thought
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: our defense was better than that.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well I don't. That's going to be a part
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: of your your mostest about your defense.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: So I agree, Because we just talked a lot about
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: our offense being very predictable. Yeah, would we have liked
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: to see some different things off the bye week. Absolutely,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: our offense has shown exactly what we did on Saturday
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: in the past four weeks. Like, so we've seen that
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: before that part and everybody's talking about the black Yeah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that's it's definitely a big problem, right it is concerning
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the part that just took a dagger and shoved it
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in my heart and twisted it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: That's pretty gruesome. But uh, it was our.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Defense, the thing, the thing, the thing that we had
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: our backbone of. And yeah, there were some telltale signs
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: maybe in a couple of games earlier that like that
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: was weird. But what in the world was that, like
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: mistackling our our defensive line, our strength that we I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: wanted to give the Platinum Award winner to the Mid
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Season Award Show. I saw it from the get go.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't pancakes, but they were just moving those
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: guys nash and tie and getting holes. And then guess
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: what our linebackers missed in the in the Hannah saw
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it all on film and they just exploited the crap
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: out of it. And our DB's got beat one on
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: one one. I think it was Nick, Bob and Bo
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Rude one of my favorite ones. They talked about football's
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: kind of breaks it down all it's a lot of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: one on one matchups. Right, there's a lot of scheming
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: in it when you look at it, besides maybe the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback play. When you're blocking somebody, it's a one on
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: one block. When you're tackling somebody, it's a tackle or mistackle.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: When you're defending a receiver, whether you're in zone or man,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: when the ball is thrown, it's kind of one on
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: one receiver.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: dB.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: We lost every one on one battle.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And again, I don't think that's because they have that
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: much better players in this I think they have winners
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and that's what they recruited and that's how their culture is.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I thought that maybe with where our culture was headed,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: but our defense, I'm like, I don't know, remember Tony
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: White was gonna be the number one commodity on the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: market for head coaches this year. And I think it
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: was Joel class that he's a top five de coordinator
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: in the country. So that's the part that I'm like,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: it really makes me speechless and have all these like
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: what just ha in the thoughts that right there the offense,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: he adds what we've seen that it's a problem, we
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: need to fix it. But the defense was like, oh god,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: that's just not good.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: It was rough.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: We didn't get any pressure, and I mean Indiana was
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: making some pretty good catches. Don't get me wrong, Like
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: we did have some times where the dvs were actually
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: in a really good position. They just their quarterback hit
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: an excellent throw, the receiver made an excellent catch. It
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: was oh man, it was bad. And we also got
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: benefit of doubt that one called definitely should have been
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: an interception or fumble recovered that we were able to
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: snap in that first quarter when we were down in
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: the red zone.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one, I don't know for sure.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah that's for sure a fumble. I don't know how
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: they didn't review that at all, but in the long run,
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: didn't matter. But yeah, I don't do you guys, it's
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: looking like you're it's there's either a game that's a
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: fluke here or okay, are you guys? You guys think
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: you guys are closer to the Illinois Indiana team or
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: the Colido teams. Cordor looks good now and that game
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: could be a fluke like he's playing ass that game.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Do you guys think you guys are closer to the
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: team he looked like against Indiana Illinois or the team
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: you look like when you played Colorado.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: It's tough enough to say Indiana because that's the game
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: we just watched.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I think all those teams are very including us. Well,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. I still think there a lot
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of us are in a tier.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: If we play Indiana again, I don't think we're gonna
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: like spread. I still don't even think the spread would
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: be twenty. No, maybe I don't know. I don't know.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: It's hard to say because Colorado again, Colorado is playing
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a lot better now. But that's why I'm saying, can
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you judge it? Can you judge a season? Can you
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: judge a program? I at what point is it fair
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to look at an entire season versus one game. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: don't know, because yeah, Colorado does have like a different
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: team than maybe when we played them. But it's hard
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to tell that Illinois has been pretty consistent all year
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and just be Michigan, but Michigan might be. It's just
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: so hard to tell. How much can you judge based
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: off of one game? And you know one one one
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: way of talking about this game is just to say
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about it and move on
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: right and scrap it and say that was that was
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a fluke?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Or is it? And this is where my approach what
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: this did in my mind? Oh god, I got rain
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: on my screen.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, I'm opening up like a thousand windows right now.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Oh but okay, does it? Does it open up like
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: a big old can of worms now? Because I think
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: that's what you think is that it's not like it
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: is one or two small things when you get beat
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: like this, it's it feels like there's so much more
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that just.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Got opened up by losing.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: This bad And it could be completely wrong with that,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but it's hard to tell. Because it losing game, you
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: play the if game and you say, if this happened,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: if this did we just got to fix this.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: There's not many If this happened in this game, it
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: was just the guy.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it really it'll be very telling
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: how we come out against Ohio State. I mean, I
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: think we all know we're gonna lose.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: But if we go out and we get blown out
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: again fifty something to seven or forty something to seven,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: someone's probably getting fired.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: I really do think.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know Rules says he doesn't want to
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: fire people because he's a coach.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: And he doesn't you know it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: He expects players to learn over time, have you know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: hold coaches the same standard. But he does have a
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: co offensive coordinators that it was an interesting hire. So
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I think'll it'll be very telling to see how we
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: come out against Ohio State. We come out, we do
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: the exact same thing. Good chance we.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Don't make a ball game. I think I think you
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: just for now.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, we'll see Adams's house State now,
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: you just scrap it up as a bad game. You
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: what's helping happens is you just were getting pounded in
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: the beginning of your team basically just packed it in
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: and that's kind of what you I is.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: That what you want though, that's what you hope, that's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: what you hope happened. You see, here's here's my problem.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I was hoping by Monday night at ten thirty eight,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I would be a little bit.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Over that, all of the.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Just the feelings and by this point and shocked feelings
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and and question questioning, I guess everything.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I thought it'd be over that, But I'm not.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, if there's fans out there, and there are,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a big time overreactions to a lot
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of things.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I might be overreacting. I probably am.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: There's TV, there's there's there's there's gonna be there's gonna
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: be a lot of that. The biggest thing is what's this?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Like you said for Ohio State game, like, what are
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the players thinking?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: What is what?
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: What?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: God? After that happens, how can your mind not just
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: start questioning? That's like, I'm just thinking that any player
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: on that team, how can you not start questioning everything
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you're doing as a program, that everything from stretches to
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the film, your your team for film pre you're just questioning, God,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: this guy they just got this guy six months ago
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: from James Madison, and no, they didn't just beat us,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they like demolished us.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: It's also funny because you listened to, like the interview
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: with Signetti before the game, and he's preaching the exact
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: same stuff rule as you know, execution winning play by
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: play down by down, like so that culture winning.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: The questioning then goes, Okay, we're saying all that and
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: we've always known Rule and as a really great communicator,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he's phenomenal at it. He's so good at it. The
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: first time again you start questioning it, is it a facade?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Like? Is it talk? What what are we doing in practice? Actually?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Like you want to believe him and think, Okay, this
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: is what a hard practice everybody's got in their mind.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: This is what a hard, physical, competitive play by play
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: game by game practice looks like.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: But what if that's like.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Not to what actually should be, Like there's a whole
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: other level that Rule's not there. You don't know that,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: no one's gonna know that. But you just have questions
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: now because you're right they kind of. Signetti says a
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: lot of really good things, like you said the same
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: stuff we have heard Rule talk about for a long time,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and you're like, God, this guy he gets it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: He knows what he's talking about. But then this happens
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: and you go.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: What's the difference?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Where is and it?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: You know, and then people start throwing around rules record
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: against top twenties five teams, and you're like, in the
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: past you're justifying it, but now you're looking at it
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: a little bit more.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: You're like, I, but I try to still not. I don't.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Again, I don't game by game, school by school. I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: think every situation is different. I think the question goes
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: from developing players and talent and again building a program.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You know, rules done it in two three years, so
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I mean we're kind of here, here we are, Where
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: are we moving? The problem is back now.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: It's also important to look just driving too, our two
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: losses their top fifteen teams, you know, like it's.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Not over.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Correct. So there's the overreaction part.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: There's where if you can if you can frame it
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that way, and you again, there's one way.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: One.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's one thing to frame it and hear that and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: think that, like I'm doing right now.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: That another thing to actually believe that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: That's where the players have to actually get to for
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: us to get to seven or eight wins, like our
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: players have to believe that that's true and not continue
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: to question things like a lot of fans rightfully, so
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: are going to be doing now and probably after Saturday,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: depending on how that game goes. So that's the big
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: question mark right now. How how are we going to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: respond to it?
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, Dak, you just got healthy. You see some
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: fight going in this Ohio State game. And then that
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: they just don't come out laying egg right away like.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be close for at least the chunk of
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like like different first quarter.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Then you're then, like I said, then the coaching staff,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I understand, Yeah, jes.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: So just big rain drops randomly just start falling.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It just it's yeah, okay, a couple of plays I
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: don't we won't not place to talk about. But it's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: like stuff at the beginning of the game that happens
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that you just go what like, are we really going
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: down this path again? And this is again going back
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: to the question, like you just question it. Obviously, they
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: go down and score their first drive. Everybody's like, whoa,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that was pretty impressive. All right, we get the ball
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: kick off, Oh my gosh, start with catching a ball
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: at the one yard line on the run and sprinting
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: out of downs the one yard because we can't stop.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: That would have gone out of bounds and probably been
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: a penalty.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Guys, here and here and this is here comes coach
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: out of me. If your job as a special teams coach,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and you've done it your whole life, how is there
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: not like how have you not seen that thought of
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that situation that hey, I have one returner back there
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the ball gets kicked to outside the numbers. Hey, guess
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: what returner? I don't care if the ball is where
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it's at. If it's outside the numbers, you don't touch it,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: like could one is either going to go out of
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: bounds or two it's going to go through the end zone.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So if there's a hard rule that you don't catch
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the ball outside the numbers, how how is that not
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a thing? If that's what your job that you get
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: paid hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions. I don't
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: know what ed Foley's getting paid too much? Like if
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: your job, like you're living, eating, breathing, sleeping, watching film
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: on it for your thirty years of your life, and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: how is that situation not come across? I find it
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: hard to believe that, like, how's that not coached? That great?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: That should be preventable. I just don't.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I don't urge you.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: He's a freshman.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: That's exactly why.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: That's exactly where there are coaches to coach the freshman
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: to nominate and don't put him in that position if
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: you don't think he can handle it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Why is I GC not back there?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I just I just was whatever that happens, we get
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a first down I think, or maybe two, I don't know.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: But what it turns into was they can now get
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: twenty five yards back after we punt, they get the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: ball midfield, short field, they go down score or no
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: that maybe that's when we stop them.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I can't Yeah, maybe that's when we stop them. I
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: don't remember.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Yes, I think they do score and then we score
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: and then we stop them.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: So then somewhere in there then too we have we
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: put a nice drive together. I think it was when
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it's fourteen seven. If we drive down, we're at the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: twelve fourth and one time out Nebraska, we get lineup
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: heavy set time out Nebraska. Okay, we come out, same play.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Everybody in the stadium knows where the ball's going. And
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I think this is the question that this coaching staff
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and this team, we need to figure this out. If
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: we think we are the physical, bully, run the ball team,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: If that's what we think and that's what our quote
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: unquote identity is, we.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Better be able to execute it. But we have it.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So I heard someone say this and I thought this
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: was I was like, oh my god, this is actually
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a really good quote. Not sure if they meant to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: say this. We want to run the football, but we
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: can't run the football, so then we don't commit to
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: running the football because we can't run the football. Like
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: so we're going back and forth on okay, like that
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: fourth and one rule. Just want to say, we're gonna
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: pound it down your throats. We're gonna do it. I
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: don't care if everybody knows. We have the we're the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: offensive line, we're more physical, we have the running back.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Bob blah blah blah blah blah. We get stopped and
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: it's again predictable. But if we can't do it, then
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: why do we keep doing it. We're like, we're just
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: bouncing back and forth on that running thing, and we've
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: seen it this whole time. So, like I've heard people
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: after the game, all of the stent of we have
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to fully commit to being able to run the football,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and let's go back to the quarterback run game.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Another topic to talk about. Let's go back to the
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: quarterback run game.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Get our run game going, don't even where about past
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And then I've heard the flip side of let's just
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: spread it out, go four or five wide, let's not
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: even try to run the ball because we can't, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: let's just let Riola throw for fifty five times a game.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the right answer is. Our offense
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: has been shitty no matter what. So I don't know
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: which way to go. And that's what that's what they
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: kind of figure out.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Again, we've talked about maybe we have better players. I
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: don't know that they're that. I think the running backs
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: are just still so average like that has not changed.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: The Indiana running backs I think are a little above average.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know where to go with the offense. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: have no idea.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm at a loss.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: On the offensive side, too, we can't we Okay, no,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: explosive plays right, no threats anywhere running a run explosive
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: play or a pass explosive play.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Which I felt like early in the year we had those.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: And maybe it was the opponent we were playing.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know the opponent, but it doesn't even look
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: like it doesn't feel like we're looking downfield that much.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: So here, let's play this card.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a second and we don't give me
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: a second and twos, but hell, let's go first and ten. Okay,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: one approach, let's send I wasn't eve gonna say it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Jalen Lloyd can maybe he's our best at it or
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: someone like that on a strict down the field, even
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: if it's an a complete pass. But let's show a
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: threat of a pass downfield. Okay, that's one way of saying,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: let's a threat. Now we have a threat. Maybe it
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't complete, but we're now at least showing us up
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: because we don't We don't try that with anybody, banksnay,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: or any of that. We don't try it. So if
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: not even a we're not even looking there. The flip
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: side of that, it becomes incomplete. You have the other
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: side of it, bitching and complaining that why the hell
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: aren't we running it on first down?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And it's second and ten and we're going second and long.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: It's just funny, like good offensive teams don't get in
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: that predicament because when it becomes second and ten, they
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: know how to get out of it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Well ill even do.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: There's another example in the game apples to apples comparison,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: first and twenty. We got pushed back on a holding.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: They did first. Sorry, they got pushed back first and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: twenty on a holding. What was their first play? They
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: ran a bunch of guys out and they got a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: guy wide open, ten yard kind of hookrout they got
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: in second and nine or ten.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: They end up converting it our first down.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: We got in the same situation first in twenty we
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: ran up the middle for a one yard gainer, a
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: one yard loss.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Now we're in second to nineteen.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: It's it's so different, and I guess it's a difference
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: between a good offense and a bad offense. But I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know the I don't know what
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I even would want. I don't even know what I wanted,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: what I would want to do as an offensive coordinator.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's sadder feel. I don't know. I'm
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: at a loss of.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: I'm also I'm also worried. Again.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not calling for anyone's head, but the fact that
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: coming into the year, Centerfield's like, we're not going to
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: hold back the playbook even though Rayola is a freshman,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: We're gonna let him learn the whole playbook as it is.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: It's like, this is it. I mean, they're not They're
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: not saying like, we're not making this.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Rookie you know point that's a great point.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: It's like they're saying like, yeah, this is our book.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: That's a great point.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Shit.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Uh oh and and.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Every not everybody. A lot of people questioned Marcus sadder
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Field for what he was. This might be what we're seeing.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I say last year we had questions with the passing game,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: and we were like, well there's a lot of injuries.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: No injuries. This year, better pass.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Protection, better receivers, apparently better quarterback, bad passing game.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Any guys, Yes, when I have to talk about your quarterback,
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: are you you get a little worried?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: H No, Dad, give us your thoughts on him.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Give me. I'm he's obviously true freshman.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: I I'm just saying, back to back games, he looks
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: absolutely awful. Like I don't Rutgers, I would say he
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: looks almost worse than this game.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: He's missing passes too.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be worried yet, but it definitely leads a
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: little doubt in your mind more than.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: It's I see what you're saying. But also, when you're
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: down twenty eight to seven in the second half, the
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: opposing defense is playing, They're like you, you're gonna be
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: passing the ball. We're not gonna let you pass the ball.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: And when you think he's banged up, I think he's.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: He did get he did get hurt in that first quarter.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: I mean he did limp off. But yeah, when.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: You're when you're down that much, the defense is knows
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: you're throwing the ball. And when you're already a true freshman,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: and the defense knows what you're gonna do. And we
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: have questions about our offensive play calling how it's simple
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: and easy for defenses to read man, that makes a
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: real tough situation.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you can't if you can't run the ball,
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: you're true freshman. I mean, defense knows what you're gonna do.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: It doesn't help. But all I'm saying is he's a
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: little a little bit of doubts gonna.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Be threeping in your mind. No, none, No, I don't know.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I just don't know. Uh, he can't run, he can't move.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Which which I think that could be. I think you.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Ran for a first down?
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, he here here's I don't know.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I don't with the offense that are running, I don't know.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Some people are saying, you know, do you give Heinrich
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: a shot?
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: No?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I still think.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I still think Dylan's our most talented player on the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. So the problem with that,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: and this is where I sorttle internally, is I my
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: preferred style of offense. The quarterback has running capabilities like
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Mahomes does not comparing Rail to Mahomes, but all of
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the all of these really good quarterbacks guys that they
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: can run some they have the ability to Curtis Rourke,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: he's not a runner, but he can elude people in
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the pocket. And Riola showed maybe some of that early on,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: but he had negative I don't even I think it's
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: like negative three hundred some rushing yards in high school
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: through his four years. So I think your quarterback, regardless
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: of what system you're running, has to be able to
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: elude people and take advantage of three yards when you
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: can get it, or not take a sack to throw
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: the ball away, or yeah, maybe even be able to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: run his own red and pull it and run.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: And get six yards.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, well, okay, I do know Riola can
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: do that. He's not a statue and then you might
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: think he is, but he can run. What I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: might have happened don't know this for sure, is that
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: we got soft. And guess what, maybe all the Roola's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: coaches got soft in high school because he was a
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: talented player and said, we don't want this guy to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: get hurt. So he's never getting tackled in practice. We're
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: never going to put him in a position to get tackled.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And guess what, that's a big time fat excuse for
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a program where we're at right now. That upsets me
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: more than anything. If we're like, we're just not going
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to run his own read and give him the option
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to pull because we don't want him to have contact
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: on him. It's like football game. So that's my biggest
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: issue with the Riola right now. He's a Yes, he's
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: still has some freshman things, but he's super super raw
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: talented with his arm.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I still think he has potential to.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Be a pro player in his career, high a top
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: notch prospect. But he's got to be able to learn
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: to run, and we have to allow him to do
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it somehow, some way. And I think I told you
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: guys this. I want to have this discussion three four
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: weeks ago at some point because I think it's a
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: problem if you're limiting that in your offense. It's not
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: even a threat that he's running the ball anytime ever
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: at all. So that's the part that scares me. I
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: don't think it's time to turn anything. I do think
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that we could talk transfer portal a little bit because
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I just have like a big, long term future prediction
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: with what might happen with him. I don't want to
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: go into it tonight, I don't think, but.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I still think he's still our guy, and you still
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: our most talented player. The ball's got to be in
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: his hands with what we have this year, not.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Worried about it, not necessarily the running. I agree that
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: would be a nice goal to add. But I'm not
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: thinking about mentioning for Heinrich now at the end of
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: that game, when we were down whatever forty two, seven
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: to forty two, and like like, all right, maybe he
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: got there and see if there's something here that can
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: spark the offense.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: But I think rule and he said it to want
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: to Riola to get some reps, and and and again,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: just just learn from a game like this, which I
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: think you will. You from what it sounds like, I
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know people are gonna blame there's not players
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: around him.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Well, don't say that because we said that we got
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: better players. Well, well, maybe our running backs aren't very good.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: We don't have a run.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a full circle of like after
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: this game, you just start questioning it, like maybe we
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: don't have players, maybe we don't have running backs. But
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: my mind goes back to this tier conversation of teams
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that we're playing. We're in that tier. We can't forget
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: that just because we just got obliterated by aviscerated, annihilated
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: all those damn words by Indiana.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna keep that in mind. After one game.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Now we might be having the same conversation here in
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: a week after Ohio State. I still don't know how
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: much you look into that. It's still a game by game.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: The big question is how are these players going to
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: react to all of this?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Is it's a lot. It's a lot to take in.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: It's not one or two things where you go, yeah, coach,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I agree, if we do this, I'm with you, We're
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be We're gonna be. Okay, you look at that game,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: you go, what in the world just tapped?
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no way if you even if you get
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: obliterated by how State, you won't feel like you did
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: after this game because that that one you've been expecting
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: all year, this one, this one going in the year.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: I think we all had his win. We all thought
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: Indiana was gonna be bottom tier team.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be a bottom tier team.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Craig to their coach, he rebuilt that program quickly.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if rebuilt the right word. I'm
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: sorry Indiana fans, but.
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess they didn't. They didn't he built the
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: program because he can't. He can't rebuild from nothing.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Well and and and yeah, they built whatever they have
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: this year. Again.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think Indiana is now
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: a top twenty five consistent team for the next ten years.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Like no, I think I think he came in and
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and had the right approach. He's a damn good coach
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and got a lot of winners on his roster and
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: has seen a lot of football and those of stuff
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: and dominated. It's not again Northwestern Maryland past two weeks,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: we're in the fourth quarter against Indiana. I think there
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: are also teams in this tier. So it's not like
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: we're that much worse than all these teams. I don't
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: think that. But they did a great job this one game,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: having two weeks to prepare for Nebraska, and it showed
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: in the outcome on what they did. And now they
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: get college game Day this week against Washington.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: On that what Indiana fans are nice? Right hu Her?
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So God's gonna add that at the end.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Here a couple of things just about Indiana, not that
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: this even matters. People probably don't even care Indiana fans. Okay,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Bloomington and the like the true college town and the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: fans and the kids there. You got to remember there
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: they're basketball is like our football and our basketball is
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: like their football. So this would be like Nebraska basketball
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: starting out the year like seventeen and one and being
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: ranked twelve.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: They did not know.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: How to handle like success, like how how to feel
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: about everything that's going on that stadium early on in
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the first second quarter when even they're kicking our butt,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: like it never got loud, Like their student section does
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: not know how to cheer at football games. It's funny,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: like they don't like when it was third down and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: eight and it was fourteen to seven, Like their fans
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: would barely even yell anything.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: They don't know how to chaper winning football. It was
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: like their first broadcast.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: I didn't know if that's just when TV broadcasts went,
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: but it didn't seem loud.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: It was fascinating to see, like coming out of the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: second half, you know, first drive, I'm like, they should
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: be fired up, like they're kicking our butt right and
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the state will be loud.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: And they stayed. I mean a lot of the fans
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: stayed the whole game.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Like its just it was like they didn't know how
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: to react to good football.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: You can it seemed quiet.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was just fascinating on that sense and
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: then yeah, the college kids are yeah they weren't. They
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: weren't very polite hub at all or classy, and it
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: made it for kind of I'm not gonna say it
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't fun, but like when I go to those games
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: that you like talking to those people and you just
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: like to get to know, like again, like what they think,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: like how they think the college football, their team. And
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: we met a couple of people that you could have
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: for the most part, they were like just get out
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: of here, leave you don't you're you know, to the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: point where it was like Colorado. It was like games
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: like that where they just were rude and it was fine.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: And I will say this too Nebraska fans, Well, I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, because we were all in red, it did
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: not feel like there were as many of them there
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: have some other away games. I don't know why that is.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: There probably were just as many, but we didn't cheer
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: for anything in the game. Therefore you could never hear us,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: so you never knew how many were in the stadium
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: because we were so quiet.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: It just it just it didn't feel like there were
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: as many.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: It was still right though, like Bloomington, the town itself
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: is pretty awesome. I also will say I don't need
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: to go back, uh either bring up bad memories of
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: this game, but here I am two and fifteen on
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the road.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: So bad. You should have known that you're gonna lose
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: when you were going. I just don't.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: We picked us, Like that's the funny part. Like we
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: picked us and we got beaten by forty nine. Yeah,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, that that is That is.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: What we all didn't think any and it was real.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: No, we did. That's yeah, that's why it's just like.
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: All right then probably Yeah, shout out the actress Ladio
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: softball team wearing that tonight because I couldn't found any
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: Husker stuff.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Great title, the night Beaten Hastings. Hi, there you go one,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: not the nextra Innings video anything else.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Uh Yeah, I want to lock in my Liberty pick
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: for my Survivor pool this week.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: It's on Wednesday night, Sylvie before pod.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: And one again.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: Still still lively.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Wow that how do you do?
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Four and six?
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Not not terriblem was really close to covering though.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: That was that was awesome.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey I do I do have a saved video.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Now that's saying you're a bigger Nebraska fan than Oklahoma fan.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I was joking.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: No, you were not. There was no joking.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I guess what's getting clipped at the end of this
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: podcast and putting in.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I was joking when I said it. Oh yeah, No
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I wasn't.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: You weren't joking. Not anybody laugh at your joke.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, you can clip it in whatever. But okay,
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: let's talk about Calahoma game real quick.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: I shut off after twenty one oh three straight defensive
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: touchdowns South Carolina.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I set it off.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say, three straight games
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: where you hadn't watched anything past the third quarter.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: That too, No, the Opera game and watched all one
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: but Texas South Carolina. I have not watched past third
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: quarter this one, not even past. I shut off nine
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: minus left first quarter. There's twenty one nothing. I shut
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: it off.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: Maybe Sad could be Oklahoma's OC next year.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're looking for one. That gotta help.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Not if we both don't make a bullgame, can we
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: just play each other in a fake ball game.
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: We might play in a ball game like there's a
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: very nice shot. Actually, I don't think Oklahoma's cann make one.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Their schedules held.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Why not who said, I guess the end say says
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: you can't play a game unless sanction.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: I'm sure.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Let's go play in like a high school football stadium.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: Don't run the SEC, I'll just say that. Don't spare morning,
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: don't drun the sec. Holy hell, I.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Have leaves falling all over me. Oh my gosh. All right,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: well hey, let's wash this one now. Now we got
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: all of our thoughts out. I still don't know how
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel in the morning, but let's wash it,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: clean it. Let's wake up, let's get ready for Ohio State. Right, fellas,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: let's go.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: Yep, all right, go Bigger Red g v R Go Celtics,
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: Ring Knight tomorrow night.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the
• 55:39
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