Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Hour 2: Future of robotaxis
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wow, did you see doctor Fouci flexing? She took his
- 0:06Speaker 1: Constitution around his home. Remember this is after his testimony
- 0:11Speaker 1: before the Three Hours before the United States Committee hosted
- 0:15Speaker 1: by Rand Paul. So most times experts will tell you,
- 0:21Speaker 1: Larry and Natalie and our audience that if you've been
- 0:24Speaker 1: in a difficult situation to put you in a bad light,
- 0:27Speaker 1: whether you're giving testimony in court or before congressional or
- 0:31Speaker 1: a Senate hearing, the best strategy is, if you're gonna
- 0:35Speaker 1: go home, just hunker down, and if you need any supplies,
- 0:38Speaker 1: just gub hubb it in. Don't go outside because the
- 0:41Speaker 1: paparazzi are gonna be everywhere. Or just pack your bags
- 0:45Speaker 1: and go to the shore Marylyn, Shore Virginia, Shore Florida.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Just take a powder puff for a few days. Oh no,
- 0:53Speaker 1: doctor Fauci wasn't having any of that. After taking the
- 0:56Speaker 1: Fifth Amendment to over one hundred times and having to
- 1:01Speaker 1: suck it up while he was being called a party
- 1:03Speaker 1: boy in DC, a super a list party attender, having
- 1:08Speaker 1: fun everything that he hate and despise, he decided he
- 1:12Speaker 1: was gonna come home and the first thing he was
- 1:14Speaker 1: gonna do is he was gonna take the Constitution, take
- 1:18Speaker 1: a nice stroll around the block with his wife.
- 1:21Speaker 2: And along the way he stops.
- 1:23Speaker 1: He knows the paparazzi all over him, and he takes
- 1:27Speaker 1: his cell phone and he's having a conversation we don't
- 1:30Speaker 1: know with who, and he's dropping the F bomb because
- 1:32Speaker 1: you know he's pissed, you know he's angry, but and
- 1:34Speaker 1: he wants them to be able to feel it, get
- 1:37Speaker 1: up close, touch it, without answering any questions.
- 1:40Speaker 2: And then he continues on his stroll, and.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Lo and behold he returns from his constitution and what
- 1:47Speaker 1: awaits him on his porch a bouquet of flowers from
- 1:53Speaker 1: some stranger in admros Oh, Doctor Fauchier, the best thing
- 1:58Speaker 1: that ever happened in the world, probably already preset and
- 2:01Speaker 1: pre arranged by one of the neighbors who's a friend
- 2:03Speaker 1: of his. So he decided, Okay, I did what my
- 2:09Speaker 1: lawyers told me to do, my six lawyers, and took
- 2:11Speaker 1: the fifth on everything, even ridiculous things like what Josh
- 2:15Speaker 1: Hawley asked from Missouri, what day is it?
- 2:17Speaker 2: The color of the tie, the color of the carpet.
- 2:20Speaker 2: I take the fifth. But now I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 2:23Speaker 2: show some anger, some indignation.
- 2:25Speaker 1: It also showed that there were people out there in
- 2:27Speaker 1: the world who loved me. Oh my god, it made me.
- 2:33Speaker 1: I felt stained after watching all that. I don't know
- 2:36Speaker 1: about you, Larry, but boy, this was like pre constructed
- 2:40Speaker 1: in terms of what he was gonna do.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you don't know about me.
- 2:44Speaker 3: I'd like to see him in jail, And I think
- 2:45Speaker 3: he should have been in jail for a long long time.
- 2:47Speaker 3: And the reason he should have been in jail was
- 2:49Speaker 3: for lying to the American public and lying to the world.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Seven You know, we get into.
- 2:55Speaker 3: The character of him, and we get into the back
- 3:00Speaker 3: and forth, and the personality is involved in this. I
- 3:03Speaker 3: think it's really important always to remember before we make
- 3:08Speaker 3: make this into a soap opera, that seven million people
- 3:11Speaker 3: died around the world. People couldn't see their loved ones
- 3:15Speaker 3: and nursing homes when they were dying. People had to
- 3:19Speaker 3: have their kids stay home for a couple of years
- 3:23Speaker 3: because they couldn't go to school, and it set back
- 3:25Speaker 3: their learning and it kept back set back their social skills.
- 3:29Speaker 2: He was a.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Plague on the world. The plague wasn't COVID. The plague
- 3:34Speaker 3: was Fauci, and so I think it's really important that
- 3:37Speaker 3: we constantly remember that. And I wanted to say all
- 3:40Speaker 3: that before I got into the diary and the self aggrandizing,
- 3:45Speaker 3: because while the world was suffering, he felt like a
- 3:50Speaker 3: movie star. He wrote that constantly, all the people that
- 3:55Speaker 3: met him and loved him, and all the accolades he's getting,
- 4:00Speaker 3: all the interviews he's doing, that's all he wrote about.
- 4:04Speaker 3: At a time when major decisions were being made, at
- 4:07Speaker 3: a time when people were dying, he wrote about himself,
- 4:12Speaker 3: and he spent much of his time accumulating wealth. So
- 4:18Speaker 3: not only was he self aggrandizing, not only was he
- 4:22Speaker 3: a narcissist, but he was getting rich while other people
- 4:26Speaker 3: were dying. This man should constantly be vilified, and I
- 4:31Speaker 3: think we need to remember how much. Not only the
- 4:34Speaker 3: Democratic Party still, by the way, and they should be
- 4:37Speaker 3: ashamed of themselves, still admire him, still have him up
- 4:44Speaker 3: on a pedestal, but all of Hollywood did as well.
- 4:48Speaker 3: You might have seen this by now, but it's worth
- 4:51Speaker 3: playing over and over and over again. Remember, nobody could
- 4:56Speaker 3: go out. Everything was shut down. So Julia Roberts over
- 4:59Speaker 3: Zoom gave him an award, and when she saw him
- 5:03Speaker 3: when he's he just appeared. She even said she was
- 5:07Speaker 3: setting it up, going there's the room, there's the room
- 5:09Speaker 3: he works out of at the at the NIH And
- 5:12Speaker 3: then when he sat down, she she couldn't, she had
- 5:15Speaker 3: to catch her breath.
- 5:16Speaker 2: She went vapors, vapors.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Oh my god, and it was it was disgusting, and
- 5:22Speaker 3: then you know, just was pouring it on.
- 5:27Speaker 4: This is a thrill for me because there are very
- 5:29Speaker 4: few experts of anything in the world, I think, and
- 5:33Speaker 4: you truly have emerged as a personal hero for me.
- 5:37Speaker 4: Just to have this little corner of your time for
- 5:40Speaker 4: us is such a joy.
- 5:42Speaker 1: So it's my pleasure to be with you, miss Robinson,
- 5:46Speaker 1: and thank you for doing this.
- 5:49Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, it was I shouldn't just point out Julia Roberts.
- 5:53Speaker 3: We just happened to have video of her. It was
- 5:55Speaker 3: everybody in Hollywood. It was Tom Hanks, it was George Cloney,
- 5:59Speaker 3: every but he was fawning over him. And so on
- 6:03Speaker 3: Saturday that Live you remember, they got back on the air.
- 6:05Speaker 3: They were doing everything remotely. A lot of them were
- 6:07Speaker 3: doing their skits from their apartments, but they had Brad
- 6:11Speaker 3: Pitt play Fauci and having one of his sit down,
- 6:17Speaker 3: talks to the world and this is how it ended.
- 6:21Speaker 3: He takes off I want to set this up because
- 6:24Speaker 3: this is the end of the bit. And then he
- 6:26Speaker 3: takes off his wig and he shows you that it's
- 6:29Speaker 3: Brad Pitt and this is what he says.
- 6:32Speaker 5: And when I hear things like the virus can be
- 6:34Speaker 5: cured if everyone takes the tight pod challenge, I'll be
- 6:37Speaker 5: there to say, please don't.
- 6:41Speaker 6: And to the real doctor Fauci, thank you for your
- 6:45Speaker 6: calm and your clarity in this unnerving time.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Oh, the idolatry, he was like the infallibility. You know,
- 6:53Speaker 1: my dad raised me as a young boy. He said, look,
- 6:57Speaker 1: don't get into idolatry. This was a clear case where
- 7:01Speaker 1: he was put up on a pedestal as the loan authority,
- 7:05Speaker 1: the lone voice. The world looked to him, not just
- 7:07Speaker 1: you know, they didn't look to the WHO World Health Organization.
- 7:11Speaker 1: They looked to doctor Fauci, and they basically said he
- 7:15Speaker 1: was infallible. But that's why it's so important to have
- 7:18Speaker 1: the emails as we now have, so important to have
- 7:21Speaker 1: his own writing, you know, his own type written entries
- 7:25Speaker 1: into his diaries in which he was saying while I
- 7:29Speaker 1: was out there saying that it was you know, it
- 7:32Speaker 1: was passed from the animal, the bat, you know, in
- 7:35Speaker 1: the wet market, to the human. And that's how it
- 7:38Speaker 1: got going. I'm having these conferences with experts all over
- 7:42Speaker 1: the world.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Who are my peers, and they split fifty to fifty
- 7:47Speaker 2: on the notion of animal to human.
- 7:49Speaker 1: And the laboratory Wuhan, the bio chemical laboratory which was
- 7:54Speaker 1: right next to that wet market they were talking about, right, it.
- 7:58Speaker 3: Was called the Wuhan covid. It was exactly whatever the
- 8:02Speaker 3: virus was at the time. We called covid after the coronavirus, right,
- 8:06Speaker 3: that's it. It was called the coronavirus lab. I mean,
- 8:09Speaker 3: you know, you have a maybe it came from there.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Look there's the coronavirus lab. Maybe it came from there.
- 8:15Speaker 3: John Stewart famously did this on Colbert said, it obviously
- 8:19Speaker 3: came from the lab. It had the exact same name,
- 8:22Speaker 3: So yes, it came from there. But I don't want
- 8:25Speaker 3: to even talk about that. What we have to realize
- 8:29Speaker 3: is that he is the reason that research was taking
- 8:32Speaker 3: place in the first place. That research never would have
- 8:36Speaker 3: taken place in that lab without the funding from the
- 8:39Speaker 3: NIH and without the approval of Anthony Fauci.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Now when he started it, when he started.
- 8:46Speaker 3: It, it was legal, but it became illegal, and he
- 8:50Speaker 3: kept funding it. He kept funding the gain of function
- 8:54Speaker 3: research when it was declared illegal in this country, and
- 8:58Speaker 3: he knew he couldn't do it here, so had to
- 9:00Speaker 3: do it over there. But he wasn't even supposed to
- 9:02Speaker 3: legally funded over there, and he kept doing it. And
- 9:05Speaker 3: that's why you should be in jail. The president at
- 9:07Speaker 3: that time was Barack Obama.
- 9:09Speaker 1: He was besieged from throughout the world by medical authorities.
- 9:13Speaker 1: You can't do that, he said, Well, as you pointed out,
- 9:16Speaker 1: it's illegal, can't be done. Didn't matter. Fauci remembers infallible. Yeah,
- 9:22Speaker 1: I know more than you, Barack Obama. I want to
- 9:25Speaker 1: continue to do it nefariously, And to this day he
- 9:29Speaker 1: will not acknowledge that we can't.
- 9:30Speaker 3: I mean, if he acknowledged that, he'd be the greatest
- 9:33Speaker 3: man he already is, but he'd be convicted and he'd
- 9:36Speaker 3: be exposed as the greatest mass murderer in history. Think
- 9:41Speaker 3: about it. Seven million people and the fact that he
- 9:46Speaker 3: didn't admit that right away meant that more people were
- 9:49Speaker 3: going to die. The longer it took for us to
- 9:52Speaker 3: realize what was happening, the more it was going to
- 9:54Speaker 3: spread and then become a pandemic. And he was afraid
- 9:58Speaker 3: he was covering for himself, and so he wouldn't admit
- 10:01Speaker 3: that to the world because he knew the repercussions of that. No,
- 10:05Speaker 3: he's an absolute villain. You know, if super villains they
- 10:09Speaker 3: have in Marvel comics, he's a greater supervillain than any
- 10:13Speaker 3: of them.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Doctor det And one real quick caveat, I have Swedish
- 10:17Speaker 1: Guardian angels and we would communicate, and you know, they
- 10:20Speaker 1: believe in herd immunity in Sweden, and they were having results,
- 10:24Speaker 1: and everyone else was pounding him. Do you know he
- 10:27Speaker 1: confessed in his diaries to pushing the herd immunity target
- 10:32Speaker 1: higher to what he thought Americans could bear because there
- 10:36Speaker 1: were some people like me and others were saying, hey,
- 10:38Speaker 1: why aren't we doing what the Swedes are doing.
- 10:40Speaker 2: They seemed to be having you know, good luck with
- 10:43Speaker 2: that one. No, absolutely kept pushing it higher. And what
- 10:47Speaker 2: a diabolical, evil human being.
- 10:49Speaker 3: I know. And the fact that people still look democrats
- 10:52Speaker 3: all were protecting him.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Shame on them. As well. That's why.
- 10:56Speaker 3: By the way, remember this when you vote in the midterms,
- 10:59Speaker 3: remember this when we come back. By the way, we'd
- 11:02Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Of course, leave us a talkback.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Go to seven to ten wor on the iHeartRadio app,
- 11:08Speaker 3: go to the talkback section, hit the microphone. Please would
- 11:11Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Also, robotaxis with no steering wheel,
- 11:17Speaker 3: with no brakes nothing. I mean they have brakes inside,
- 11:21Speaker 3: but you don't have the pedal brake nothing. You just
- 11:23Speaker 3: sit in a cabin. They're now a thing and they're
- 11:27Speaker 3: going to be spreading across the country. Plus a chance
- 11:31Speaker 3: to see deep purple in Kansas coming up at a
- 11:34Speaker 3: twenty five. All right, federal regulators, they're going full steam
- 11:39Speaker 3: ahead with a completely automized robotaxis. So you know the
- 11:45Speaker 3: way moos that you're used to, the ones that tested
- 11:48Speaker 3: in the city. Those they have a steering wheel. They
- 11:50Speaker 3: look like a regular car, you know, there's two front
- 11:53Speaker 3: seats that are basically empty, and you sit in the back,
- 11:55Speaker 3: so you feel like you're in a taxi. Not these
- 11:59Speaker 3: special Amazon fully automated. They're called Xenox, the Xenox vehicles.
- 12:06Speaker 3: That's a horrible name. It's a little scary of the
- 12:09Speaker 3: name to get into. But it has nothing in the front.
- 12:12Speaker 3: It has four seats facing each other, so you have
- 12:16Speaker 3: two seats facing the back, two seats facing the front,
- 12:19Speaker 3: so it has four people. And then everything is automated,
- 12:22Speaker 3: so you don't need the steering wheel, you don't need
- 12:24Speaker 3: the break.
- 12:25Speaker 1: It's like an old fashioned stage coach exactly, no horse
- 12:29Speaker 1: and no driver at the top because you know, in
- 12:31Speaker 1: the old stage coach face you're facing one another.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Uh, let me guess where they're doing this.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I'm Carnaca Magnificent, having just come back from Palo Alto
- 12:41Speaker 1: where I election in Stamford. They have weimold there everywhere.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Amazon is doing it there. Yep, that's where they're gonna start.
- 12:49Speaker 3: They've been testing it there actually there in Las Vegas
- 12:52Speaker 3: and now both states have cleared it. But it's going
- 12:54Speaker 3: to start in Palo Alto's so and they're gonna start
- 12:58Speaker 3: charging now and you just do it with your credit card.
- 13:00Speaker 3: Here's somebody that wrote in it.
- 13:04Speaker 5: It's kind of scary the first time of like when
- 13:07Speaker 5: I just got used to it, it's really cool and chilling,
- 13:10Speaker 5: like I really loved the music and how you kind
- 13:12Speaker 5: of like adjust.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Temperature place there you go. So it's scary when you
- 13:16Speaker 2: first get into it, you get used to it really quick. Yeah,
- 13:19Speaker 2: and what about all those jobs that get lost? What
- 13:22Speaker 2: are these guys and gals gonna do? I know, it's horrible.
- 13:25Speaker 1: I mean, Palo Alto, I walked two miles to the
- 13:27Speaker 1: campus from where I was saying, I refuse to take
- 13:30Speaker 1: the way. MO. If I'm invited back out there again,
- 13:33Speaker 1: you know, damn well, I ain't taken Jeff Bos's Amazon Beast.
- 13:38Speaker 2: I'm gonna call it. What the hell is going on
- 13:40Speaker 2: in our country? You know, there was a lot of people.
- 13:42Speaker 3: That said that they rushed this too fast, that there
- 13:45Speaker 3: wasn't enough There weren't enough reports given there's a lot
- 13:49Speaker 3: of people out there that complained that said, we're pushing
- 13:51Speaker 3: this a little bit too fast. We need some more
- 13:54Speaker 3: data on this. This is the Council for Amazon, so
- 13:57Speaker 3: we're requiring more robust reporting requirements from the entity.
- 14:01Speaker 7: We have the ability to pull the exemption if we
- 14:03Speaker 7: see and reasonably say risky behavior on the road. So
- 14:08Speaker 7: it gives us the ability to oversee and learn from
- 14:11Speaker 7: this technology as we look to modernize our system of regulation.
- 14:16Speaker 2: Itself.
- 14:17Speaker 3: That's pretty interesting that they're saying, look at look, you know,
- 14:20Speaker 3: we don't need to give you more paperwork. You know,
- 14:22Speaker 3: we're going to oversee this entire thing and we'll pull
- 14:24Speaker 3: the whole thing if there's any problems.
- 14:27Speaker 2: But so far there's been no problem.
- 14:28Speaker 1: It's all analytics, right, don't worry about it. When people
- 14:32Speaker 1: say to me, don't worry about it, that's when I
- 14:34Speaker 1: start worrying. I just want to know. All these men
- 14:37Speaker 1: and women who earn their livelihood as drivers. They'll call
- 14:41Speaker 1: them drivers for hire. That covers a wide range of driving.
- 14:45Speaker 1: What are they going to do instead? Oh, that's wipe
- 14:48Speaker 1: what Elon must said. In the future, everyone will have abundance.
- 14:53Speaker 2: You won't have to work.
- 14:56Speaker 1: They're all using drugs out there, you know, I'm Palo Alto.
- 14:59Speaker 1: They psychotropic jokes. It's been big articles written about that.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Do we really believe that crap?
- 15:05Speaker 2: No, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen all across the country.
- 15:08Speaker 3: But this is the whole threat about AI, which I
- 15:11Speaker 3: know we're gonna talk more about on Monday, But for
- 15:13Speaker 3: right now, let's get to some talkbacks.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Starting with the big movies. This weekend.
- 15:18Speaker 8: My take on the popularity of The Odyssey movies a
- 15:21Speaker 8: little bit different than yours. I think people need a
- 15:24Speaker 8: vehicle to unite on and they are sick and tired
- 15:29Speaker 8: of staying at home and hating each other, and this
- 15:33Speaker 8: three thousand year old story seems to provide that vehicle.
- 15:38Speaker 8: It's something that we all grew up with, and we
- 15:40Speaker 8: all knew when we can all enjoy the excitement together,
- 15:45Speaker 8: regardless of our differences.
- 15:48Speaker 2: It's really true. Movies do bring people together. Excuse me,
- 15:51Speaker 2: you never read the book. I didn't, so he said.
- 15:54Speaker 2: We all grew up with it. Natalie grew up with it.
- 15:56Speaker 2: I grew up with it, except I read Ulysses.
- 15:59Speaker 1: But you.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Close enough.
- 16:03Speaker 6: They told us that even if you had natural immunity,
- 16:06Speaker 6: you had to take the shot. Bit insane. He's losing patience.
- 16:10Speaker 6: Fauci is liable. Okay, somebody needs to go to prison.
- 16:14Speaker 6: People lost their jobs, their careers because they didn't take
- 16:17Speaker 6: the shot. Where's the accountability?
- 16:19Speaker 2: Where?
- 16:20Speaker 3: Oh it's a long long list. Thanks for saying that,
- 16:22Speaker 3: but it's a long list. People didn't go to see
- 16:25Speaker 3: their mothers and fathers and grandfathers because they died alone
- 16:29Speaker 3: in the nursing home. I mean, everything was awful.
- 16:33Speaker 6: I don't want to see that on a bumper sticker.
- 16:35Speaker 2: The plague wasn't COVID, the plague was foucy.
- 16:40Speaker 3: I'll print that up. You had the idea, go ahead
- 16:43Speaker 3: and start making that. You'll make some money. Now, let's
- 16:47Speaker 3: get to the news at seven point thirty. Let me
- 16:50Speaker 3: try and let's get this right. Dari Alberger got it.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Thank you. Larry.
- 16:56Speaker 9: Funeral will be held this morning in Queen's four Rangel Ramper,
- 17:00Speaker 9: said the Army staff sergeant who was killed during an
- 17:03Speaker 9: Iranian attack on US troops in Jordan. Governor Hockles ordered
- 17:06Speaker 9: all flags in New York lowered to half staff in
- 17:09Speaker 9: memory of the twenty eight year old. President Trump may
- 17:11Speaker 9: put Todd Blanche's nomination for Attorney General on hold until
- 17:15Speaker 9: two Republican hold out to leave office soon to be.
- 17:17Speaker 9: Former Senators John Cornyn and Tom Tilla say they will
- 17:20Speaker 9: not vote to confirm Blanche until the Justice Department puts
- 17:24Speaker 9: in writing that it scrapped the multi billion dollar Weaponization
- 17:28Speaker 9: Fund for good. The search resumes this morning for a
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- 17:33Speaker 9: in the Passaic River earlier this week, the body of
- 17:36Speaker 9: a ten year old boy was found Wednesday night as
- 17:37Speaker 9: eleven year old sister made it safely to shore, and
- 17:40Speaker 9: the FDA is recalling more than twelve million vials of
- 17:44Speaker 9: eye drops made by Rhoda because they may not be sterile.
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- 17:58Speaker 1: in on hardly Anyway explain remember Shatner Captain Kirk diagnosed
- 18:03Speaker 1: with stage four cancer while his wife also had a
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- 18:48Speaker 3: Thank you so much for agreeing to appear on the show,
- 18:52Speaker 3: because it's an important time.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Doctor.
- 18:54Speaker 3: We've seen celebrities like William Shatner, William Shatner's daughter Carly
- 18:59Speaker 3: sin Men in the last couple of weeks speak publicly
- 19:03Speaker 3: about their cancer journeys. So I guess the question is
- 19:06Speaker 3: when someone hears the word you have cancer, which everyone dreads,
- 19:11Speaker 3: what's the first thing they should do and what mistakes
- 19:16Speaker 3: should they avoid in those first few days.
- 19:21Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Larry, thanks for having me, and
- 19:23Speaker 5: I know we had dinner together recently, so I appreciate
- 19:26Speaker 5: that and your friendship and having me on the show,
- 19:29Speaker 5: so I want to thank you first of all. So
- 19:31Speaker 5: that's a big question, a very important question, and one
- 19:34Speaker 5: of the most important issues in my view is who
- 19:38Speaker 5: the patient sees first. So let's talk about Carly Simon,
- 19:42Speaker 5: who was an article about her and apparently she had
- 19:45Speaker 5: a skin cancer on her face and she had surgery
- 19:48Speaker 5: on her face and she's regretting apparently the surgery, not
- 19:53Speaker 5: even talking about the options. So the problem with a
- 19:56Speaker 5: lot of cancers are that the biopsy is often done
- 19:59Speaker 5: by a surgeon. So for example, well Shatner also had
- 20:04Speaker 5: a melanoma, which is a skin cancer, she had a
- 20:07Speaker 5: skin cancer, so usually the biopsy is done by a dermatologist.
- 20:11Speaker 5: A dermatologist is a surgeon who operates on the skin.
- 20:16Speaker 5: So for Carly, she's most likely. I don't know her
- 20:19Speaker 5: case other than what I read in the periodical that
- 20:24Speaker 5: she had a biopsy and she had surgery and now
- 20:27Speaker 5: she regrets the surgery because she's been deformed. I've treated
- 20:32Speaker 5: thousands of skin cancers over years, and I've seen so many,
- 20:36Speaker 5: and I have a family member who's a dermatologist. I
- 20:39Speaker 5: know the field pretty well. And the problem is that
- 20:42Speaker 5: when you go to a surgeon for your original biopsy,
- 20:46Speaker 5: the patient kind of bonds with the first doctor, and
- 20:49Speaker 5: the patient says, after the biopsy, oh my god, I
- 20:51Speaker 5: have cancer. What should I do? And the first voice
- 20:54Speaker 5: they often hear is the surgeon, and the surgeon sad
- 20:58Speaker 5: to say, in our system, in our medical system has
- 21:02Speaker 5: a predilection to recommend their own services, which means surgery.
- 21:06Speaker 5: So we see that all the time. In skin cancer.
- 21:09Speaker 5: There's two million skin three million skin cancers a year.
- 21:12Speaker 5: And the vast majority have a surgery called MOS, which
- 21:15Speaker 5: is like an excavation, and it's often very deforming because
- 21:20Speaker 5: skin cancers are often around the ears, the eyes, the nose,
- 21:23Speaker 5: the mouth. These are very visible places. And in my experience,
- 21:27Speaker 5: I've treated thousands, I've actually treated forty thousand patients. The
- 21:32Speaker 5: patient almost never is told about all the options, including
- 21:36Speaker 5: non invasive options. So there are non invasive options, and
- 21:40Speaker 5: we treat many patients here non invasively with no cutting
- 21:43Speaker 5: and no bleeding, whether it's pancreas cancers or prostate cancers
- 21:47Speaker 5: or skin cancers like she had. So when I grew up,
- 21:51Speaker 5: when I went to medical school, it was our education
- 21:55Speaker 5: that the doctor was obliged to tell people all the options.
- 21:58Speaker 5: And if a patient comes here to radios to New York,
- 22:00Speaker 5: you'll see signs on the wall about all the options
- 22:03Speaker 5: chemo and radiation and different forms of radiation and surgery,
- 22:07Speaker 5: even no treatment. Some people shouldn't have any treatment, especially
- 22:10Speaker 5: if they don't want it. So I would imagine she
- 22:14Speaker 5: was not listening to doctor Liederman's show on wr AND
- 22:18Speaker 5: all the time you mentioned, because if she was listening
- 22:20Speaker 5: to doctor Liederman, she would have heard almost every show,
- 22:24Speaker 5: we talk about skin cancer and other cancers where you
- 22:26Speaker 5: can have an alternative to invasive deforming surgery. So had
- 22:32Speaker 5: she been listening to wr and Plug for your Beautiful Station,
- 22:37Speaker 5: she would have known that there was an option, even
- 22:40Speaker 5: if her doctor didn't tell her. And I imagine her
- 22:42Speaker 5: doctor did not tell her because her doctor maybe wanted
- 22:46Speaker 5: a celebrity case whatever.
- 22:47Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 22:48Speaker 5: But we see so many skin cancers and almost all
- 22:52Speaker 5: of them are sent by themselves. Their doctors almost never
- 22:57Speaker 5: send the patient, and you usually believe it or not.
- 22:59Speaker 5: The doctor then calls back afterwards and they're so upset,
- 23:02Speaker 5: and they're upset for two reasons. One, it's most commonly
- 23:05Speaker 5: a beautiful result because our treatment is beautiful. We're beaming
- 23:09Speaker 5: in specifically with an area. It's the actually unique program
- 23:13Speaker 5: here that we've developed to treat the skin cancer wherever
- 23:16Speaker 5: it is. Most of by the ear, the eyes, and nose,
- 23:19Speaker 5: the throat, but some are on the hands and the
- 23:21Speaker 5: feet and the trunk, and the results are overwhelmingly successful,
- 23:26Speaker 5: more successful than most without the scarring deformity surgery and
- 23:30Speaker 5: anesthesia hours of surgery which most entails and often most
- 23:35Speaker 5: because they excavate a hole in the body. Then they
- 23:37Speaker 5: have to get a plug from somewhere else or try
- 23:39Speaker 5: to stretch the skin together, and it's very deforming. And
- 23:42Speaker 5: that's exactly what she's talking about, being deformed after skin cancer.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Now, doctor Gill lead him in the courtesy, and I've
- 23:49Speaker 1: been at your facility many many times, myself, my wife Nancy.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Previously you were giving advice and urging treatment for my
- 23:59Speaker 1: mother and father for many many years. He did an
- 24:02Speaker 1: outstanding job. But when I recommend that people go to you,
- 24:08Speaker 1: and I say, well, he's like a pioneer in radiosurgery.
- 24:13Speaker 2: This is primarily what he uses.
- 24:17Speaker 1: Can you'd be specific to our many listeners, How is
- 24:20Speaker 1: that different from everything else they getting bombarded with nowadays?
- 24:23Speaker 2: You know Lasier knife.
- 24:25Speaker 1: Surgery, this surgery, that surgery, some a holistic homeopathic. What
- 24:31Speaker 1: is the specificity of radio surgery?
- 24:34Speaker 5: Okay, So radiosurgery is revolutionary. Prior to my bringing radio
- 24:40Speaker 5: surgery to America, I'm the first doctor to do body
- 24:43Speaker 5: radio serger in America. Into the Western Hemisphere and of
- 24:45Speaker 5: course New York, large areas of the body would be radiated.
- 24:49Speaker 5: My boss at Harvard used to call it postage stamp radiation.
- 24:54Speaker 5: To radiate, let's say amassing the lung i, remember vividly
- 24:57Speaker 5: called postage stamporation, but the area the radiation was like
- 25:01Speaker 5: ten by ten by twenty centimeters, which is two thousand
- 25:05Speaker 5: cubic centimeters of one's body to treat a nodule, maybe
- 25:09Speaker 5: the size of a p and that's what they would
- 25:13Speaker 5: call postage stamp radiation or trying to minimize the field.
- 25:16Speaker 5: But in fact, if you think about it, if we
- 25:19Speaker 5: treat a tumor that's one or two or three or
- 25:22Speaker 5: five cubic centimeters, it's a very small area that's radiated.
- 25:26Speaker 5: And that's what's revolutionary about radiosurgery.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Number one.
- 25:29Speaker 5: Radio surgery also confuses people. The name. It's a misnomer.
- 25:33Speaker 5: It was named by a Swedish doctor in nineteen fifty
- 25:35Speaker 5: three and he wanted to say, hey, radiation could kill
- 25:39Speaker 5: tumors and kill structures like surgery. So he tried to
- 25:43Speaker 5: put the name together, radio radiation and surgery together to
- 25:48Speaker 5: make it sound like it was a powerful surgery. But
- 25:50Speaker 5: it's not, and so a lot of people are confused
- 25:53Speaker 5: by that. They're confused by the name radiosurgery is non
- 25:57Speaker 5: invasive treatment. And then the other point you're alluding to
- 26:01Speaker 5: is Hey, people hear about doctor Liederman talking about radio surgery.
- 26:04Speaker 5: So one of my friends developed a system that he
- 26:08Speaker 5: was so jealous of our work he wanted to have
- 26:10Speaker 5: another system. He tried to make it as good as ours,
- 26:13Speaker 5: but it couldn't be the same as ours because he
- 26:16Speaker 5: wanted to sell the system. He wanted to be a
- 26:19Speaker 5: producer and a salesman, not a doctor, and so he
- 26:23Speaker 5: created a system that tried to mimic ours. It could not,
- 26:27Speaker 5: but it has a name and a lot of in banks.
- 26:30Speaker 5: It actually went bankrupt twice and then banks bought it
- 26:32Speaker 5: and banks put a lot of money in and they
- 26:34Speaker 5: advertised it. So there's a name to it. But people
- 26:38Speaker 5: confused the name and the marketing with actual treatment, so
- 26:42Speaker 5: it is very confusing. You're right, and there's very similar
- 26:45Speaker 5: names that are not the same product.
- 26:49Speaker 3: Yeah, doctor Liederman, thank you so much. I think your
- 26:52Speaker 3: whole career you have given people a lot of hope
- 26:54Speaker 3: and that cancer is not necessarily a death sentence. And
- 26:58Speaker 3: we just talked about William Shatner at stage four and
- 27:00Speaker 3: it wasn't a death sentence for him. But you're absolutely right.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Going to the right doctor like you makes all the
- 27:07Speaker 3: difference in the world. Thank you, sir for joining us today.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Doctor Gil Liederman, host of a radio surgery New York
- 27:13Speaker 3: at midnight and on the weekends. Doctor Liederman, don't be
- 27:17Speaker 3: a stranger.
- 27:17Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, God bless you. Thanks, thank you, Larry,
- 27:21Speaker 5: thank you, Curtis.
- 27:23Speaker 3: When we come back. So, how is that free bus
- 27:27Speaker 3: idea going so far? We're going to talk about that after.
- 27:31Speaker 1: The break ahead of the MTA, which I refer to
- 27:35Speaker 1: the acronym Money Taking Agency had a press conference yesterday
- 27:40Speaker 1: in which he had to admit at fair evasion continues
- 27:44Speaker 1: on the buses. What had been fifty percent, which we
- 27:47Speaker 1: like half the people not paying, has actually increased in
- 27:51Speaker 1: June alone an additional seven percent. Pretty soon at this rate,
- 27:55Speaker 1: nobody's going to be paying. And so he was bemoaning
- 27:59Speaker 1: that fact and basically saying that people who can pay,
- 28:02Speaker 1: you should.
- 28:03Speaker 10: Pay without rancor and without blame. I do think that
- 28:09Speaker 10: we have we have to now turn as a you know,
- 28:14Speaker 10: as a city, to re establishing the principle that everybody
- 28:18Speaker 10: shares in the responsibility for me, for contributing to this system,
- 28:24Speaker 10: for all the people in the you know, uh people
- 28:28Speaker 10: are on their way to office jobs, who are making
- 28:30Speaker 10: a good income, who walk by the bus driver and
- 28:33Speaker 10: don't pay, or get on the back and don't pay.
- 28:36Speaker 10: I say, it's time to be New Yorkers. You know,
- 28:39Speaker 10: there's no you know, you're just passing along the cost
- 28:42Speaker 10: to another tax payer. Somebody's going to have to pay
- 28:45Speaker 10: for that ride.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Yeah, no enforcement, which has led to people just deciding, well,
- 28:50Speaker 1: if other people aren't paying, why should I pay. And
- 28:53Speaker 1: I see that every day people just get on to
- 28:55Speaker 1: the back of the bus. They have a way to
- 28:56Speaker 1: pay in the back of the bus. They ignorant, Well,
- 28:59Speaker 1: they walk right past the bus driver in the front,
- 29:01Speaker 1: and he, without saying his name, seemed to be implying
- 29:05Speaker 1: it was because of the mayor's or on Mandamie, as
- 29:07Speaker 1: you know, one of his main features with free busses,
- 29:10Speaker 1: free buses, free busses. And when I campaigned against him
- 29:13Speaker 1: and Cuomo, I said, what are you talking about. Half
- 29:15Speaker 1: the people don't pay their bus fare to begin with,
- 29:18Speaker 1: and so he's got a huge problem that predates Zorhan.
- 29:23Speaker 1: During the lockdown and pandemic, Cuomo, who was the head
- 29:26Speaker 1: of the MTAs governor, said okay, for a period of time,
- 29:30Speaker 1: nobody has to pay buses and subways. Now, how do
- 29:33Speaker 1: you get him to pay once you rescind that. Then
- 29:36Speaker 1: Brad Landa, the controller who's now the congressman, he was
- 29:40Speaker 1: able to convince the state, let's have a trial. You know,
- 29:43Speaker 1: Crosstown buses free, free, free, and they did it and
- 29:46Speaker 1: then they rescinded it.
- 29:47Speaker 2: And guess what, I take Crosstown buses all the time.
- 29:50Speaker 2: People don't pay the fare. So you can't all of.
- 29:53Speaker 1: A sudden give something away for free and then expect
- 29:57Speaker 1: once you rescind it, then now everybody's going to get
- 29:59Speaker 1: back contract and say unless there's enforcement, unless they are
- 30:02Speaker 1: arrest and the das are not prosecuting none of the
- 30:05Speaker 1: das at prosecuting this. So if it comes before an
- 30:08Speaker 1: assistant district attorney, this mess.
- 30:10Speaker 3: That's why I don't believe the mayor at all when
- 30:13Speaker 3: he says everybody should pay their fair share. He says
- 30:16Speaker 3: that constantly everybody should pay their fair share except the
- 30:19Speaker 3: people that ride the bus. Now they're very selective of
- 30:23Speaker 3: who has to pay their fair share. For instance, Natalie
- 30:26Speaker 3: and I have to play pay congestion pricing every time
- 30:29Speaker 3: we go in and at the time we had talkback
- 30:32Speaker 3: after talkback after talkback, saying, wait a second, why don't
- 30:36Speaker 3: they collect the fares on the buses. If the MTA
- 30:39Speaker 3: needs money that much, why don't they collect the fares
- 30:42Speaker 3: on the buses. There are selective people that are allowed
- 30:46Speaker 3: to have things for free, and the rest of us
- 30:49Speaker 3: have to pay for those people. And it is inherently unfair.
- 30:54Speaker 3: And if you keep begging for money, but you let
- 30:57Speaker 3: people ride on the MTA for free, that it's not
- 31:00Speaker 3: our problem, it's your problem. And remember he was just
- 31:04Speaker 3: referring to bushes. There one third of the people don't
- 31:07Speaker 3: pay their subway fare. There's like four million people on
- 31:10Speaker 3: the subways every day, about a million people on the bushes,
- 31:13Speaker 3: a lot of them taken multiple times during the day.
- 31:16Speaker 3: So you start adding that up.
- 31:18Speaker 2: Oh, no, it's a lot of money. Natalie and I
- 31:20Speaker 2: don't get that option. We don't get that option when
- 31:22Speaker 2: we come in of not paying. No, wouldn't that be wonderful?
- 31:25Speaker 2: And I'm not paying today. I wish, well, you could
- 31:28Speaker 2: walk over the George Washington.
- 31:29Speaker 3: Bridge, right, I could abandoned my car somewhere and then
- 31:32Speaker 3: just keep walking the place.
- 31:33Speaker 2: Six.
- 31:34Speaker 3: That's the point they get the service they still get
- 31:37Speaker 3: the same service, and then they don't have to pay
- 31:40Speaker 3: for it. For us to get over for free year,
- 31:42Speaker 3: right would have to walk. It's it is so unfair
- 31:47Speaker 3: to anybody that makes a living in this city, and
- 31:51Speaker 3: and it is directed at us.
- 31:53Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about the rich. It'd be if
- 31:55Speaker 2: he just went after the witch rich. Even the rich say,
- 31:58Speaker 2: you know what, we can have a conversation. That's abolutely
- 32:00Speaker 2: it's your case. It's not. It's the middle class now,
- 32:02Speaker 2: and the service sucks. Let's just pass.
- 32:05Speaker 1: On the weekends, you go into the subway, whatever line
- 32:09Speaker 1: you wanted to take, Larry and Natalie.
- 32:11Speaker 2: You can forget about that. It reroutes you.
- 32:13Speaker 1: To another line, and the delays. It is just a
- 32:18Speaker 1: miserable swamp of flotsam and jets and smells homeless, emotionally disturbed, and.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Now you got to pay three bucks. You know why
- 32:28Speaker 2: it's like that.
- 32:28Speaker 3: You know why it's it's that bad. You know why
- 32:31Speaker 3: it's slime and whatever you just called it a second ago.
- 32:34Speaker 3: It's because nobody's paying their fares. That's exactly the reason
- 32:37Speaker 3: it's all connected. God, all those people that called when
- 32:43Speaker 3: congestion pricing was starting, they were absolutely correct. We should
- 32:46Speaker 3: somehow boycott, although we'll end up in jail, won't we
- 32:49Speaker 3: those people that have in jail.
- 32:50Speaker 1: We come on, I've been arrested a two times. You
- 32:54Speaker 1: can't get arrested in once in an act of civil disobedience.
- 32:57Speaker 3: You're not somebody to follow. You're a cautionary tale when
- 33:02Speaker 3: we come back. We played the stars of the hearing yesterday.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Now we forgot Rick Scott. We're gonna make up for
- 33:08Speaker 3: that next that's after the eight o'clock news