Latest / Foul Territory / Royals sign Carlos Estevez, Active Reds, Pressly/Astros tension, Tigers adding
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wow, what an amazing stadium. Thank you, is Aaron Judges
- 0:04Speaker 1: ty here?
- 0:05Speaker 2: Yet markets are moving a little bit, markets are moving
- 0:13Speaker 2: people a little bit.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Thank you. I was wearing for crats, something.
- 0:20Speaker 2: For listening on audio crats like did the like the
- 0:23Speaker 2: tiny tiny gesture, tiny hand gesture. When you start to
- 0:27Speaker 2: see some relievers sign which we've actually seen quite a
- 0:30Speaker 2: few in the last seventy two hours, then what happens krats,
- 0:34Speaker 2: among other things, is teams say, okay, this is the price.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Let's all rush to the phones and offer the similar
- 0:43Speaker 2: price based on what the prior player got that set
- 0:47Speaker 2: the market.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to pay too much. I don't.
- 0:51Speaker 1: I don't think any of these pictures are important enough
- 0:54Speaker 1: to pay too much for. So what do I need?
- 0:58Speaker 1: What do I need a closer? What do I need
- 1:00Speaker 1: an eighth inning guy for? We'll just find somebody else.
- 1:05Speaker 2: All right, Well, one team likes to go against the grain,
- 1:08Speaker 2: actually multiple but let's cover the royals at the top here.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Let's charge them mound.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Charge.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Carlos Estevez was one of the better relievers available on
- 1:21Speaker 2: the market. Two years, twenty two point two million is guaranteed.
- 1:25Speaker 2: There's a club option for Kansas City to be able
- 1:28Speaker 2: to tack on for twenty twenty seven. That would make
- 1:31Speaker 2: it three years, thirty three million dollars. So it's either
- 1:34Speaker 2: two at twenty two ish or three at thirty three ish.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Carlos Stevez was damn good with the Angels. He was
- 1:42Speaker 2: pretty good with the Phillies. Had really good you know,
- 1:47Speaker 2: basic numbers, underlying numbers, pretty good, the walk rates really good.
- 1:52Speaker 2: A little different, like he might not have the best
- 1:54Speaker 2: stuff in the bullpen, but it's pretty high up there.
- 1:58Speaker 2: And the one difference for me, Todd father with someone
- 2:00Speaker 2: like him, and he actually knows where the baseball is going. Well, yeah,
- 2:04Speaker 2: maybe a little more consistency to that game.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Well that's the most important thing. I mean, you do
- 2:08Speaker 3: have some guys coming in here, you know, trying to
- 2:12Speaker 3: throw that pill as we call it, one hundred miles
- 2:14Speaker 3: an hour with no conviction and you know, no accuracy.
- 2:18Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a great pickup here. You know,
- 2:22Speaker 3: I'd like to ask Cratsy after this what he really
- 2:24Speaker 3: thought that what Carlos should have made you know, is
- 2:28Speaker 3: it a steal? Is it not? I mean, that's a
- 2:30Speaker 3: conversation we need to have. I think a guy of
- 2:32Speaker 3: this caliber is is a good Royal sign. I think
- 2:35Speaker 3: that from you know, last year to this year, they've
- 2:37Speaker 3: had some really good signings and I think this is
- 2:40Speaker 3: another one that you can put a check mark on
- 2:42Speaker 3: as a good one. I do think it's a steal
- 2:44Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna have a great year, and
- 2:45Speaker 3: I think with the Royals on the trajectory that they're going,
- 2:49Speaker 3: it's a great pickup, especially this late in spring training.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Price wise, I don't know. I mean to me, I
- 2:55Speaker 1: feel like, if you're getting somebody under thirteen thirteen million
- 3:00Speaker 1: a year with his track record, All Star Game, I
- 3:03Speaker 1: think in twenty three good year. Last year was in
- 3:07Speaker 1: the Pennant Race. You know, I guess I get it,
- 3:09Speaker 1: you get the Grand Slam to Lindor. But this is
- 3:12Speaker 1: a dude that if you're getting for under thirteen a year,
- 3:15Speaker 1: because kind of that's where we're at with relievers. You know,
- 3:19Speaker 1: Yates was in that range, Presley was more, but then
- 3:25Speaker 1: they paid off some of the money. The Astros paid
- 3:27Speaker 1: off some of the money. My thing is, this is
- 3:30Speaker 1: like talk about optimizing your value. Just like Scott said,
- 3:35Speaker 1: he's not just elite dominant stuff. He's just the elite dominant,
- 3:40Speaker 1: get the job done, and he's going to a huge ballpark.
- 3:43Speaker 1: So if there's a place where you're like, man, where
- 3:46Speaker 1: could Carlos Stems really shine? Where could he be a
- 3:49Speaker 1: guy that would really help a team? Oh wait, that
- 3:53Speaker 1: stadium really works for him because he doesn't put guys
- 3:56Speaker 1: on base. You have to manufacture runs against him, and
- 4:00Speaker 1: it's just really tough to do against. I just I
- 4:03Speaker 1: think it is a great pickup. I think he's okay
- 4:06Speaker 1: not being the closer because they have Ersig in the
- 4:09Speaker 1: pen in the closer role, and I think it's something
- 4:13Speaker 1: that this dude at this point in his career. I
- 4:15Speaker 1: think he just wants to win. So I think it's
- 4:17Speaker 1: an underpay great job and another great move by the Royals.
- 4:21Speaker 1: And back to back years.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Here, remember Kratz. Last year the Royals had a bullpen problem.
- 4:27Speaker 2: They were good, they were surprisingly good, and we were like,
- 4:30Speaker 2: they need a high leverage arm, and they did it.
- 4:33Speaker 2: They got Ersig from the A's and he's under team
- 4:37Speaker 2: control still for years, enough years that I don't even
- 4:39Speaker 2: need to check yet. So look what they've done just
- 4:42Speaker 2: in the past you know, eight months, they just fixed
- 4:46Speaker 2: the back end of the bullpen with these two moves,
- 4:48Speaker 2: with Ersig and with Carlos Stebez. There's some other notable names.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Hunter Harvey's got good stuff. Streiber I think was pretty
- 4:54Speaker 2: good for them last year. But this is as a
- 4:57Speaker 2: pretty big addition.
- 4:59Speaker 1: I think. I think it's more more than just like
- 5:01Speaker 1: you might, you glossed over it, but people weren't listening.
- 5:03Speaker 1: They had a bullpen issue. They had a bullpen issue
- 5:06Speaker 1: during the season. They addressed it at the at the
- 5:10Speaker 1: All Star break, at the trade deadline. Like teams that
- 5:13Speaker 1: fell short, teams that were kind of on the bubble
- 5:18Speaker 1: didn't make moves like these guys made, and they were
- 5:21Speaker 1: not afraid. They were not afraid to go make moves.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And now they added to it again, similar to the
- 5:27Speaker 1: Tigers adding to their strength in the bullpen, similar to
- 5:30Speaker 1: the Guardians adding Paul Seawall to their strength and their bullpen.
- 5:34Speaker 1: So this is again I just don't see. My My
- 5:39Speaker 1: quandary here is where were the Phillies with this Did
- 5:43Speaker 1: they really not like what they saw? Where were the
- 5:46Speaker 1: Where were the Yankees with this deal? Are they really
- 5:49Speaker 1: that far over the CBT that they don't want to
- 5:52Speaker 1: go over it?
- 5:53Speaker 4: Where were the Orioles Orioles Jimmy Christmas bro like. You
- 5:57Speaker 4: can always add to this team for a let a
- 6:00Speaker 4: million a year. Easy peasy, lemon squeeze.
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- 7:05Speaker 2: f T. Yeah, we saw the Padres do this, and
- 7:08Speaker 2: I think it actually hurt the reliever market ready for this,
- 7:13Speaker 2: So last year the Padres had a super bullpen. Then
- 7:16Speaker 2: they made it even more super by the trade deadline.
- 7:18Speaker 2: They got Jason Adam, they got help me Tanner Scott. Okay,
- 7:26Speaker 2: they were one win over the Dodgers from in my
- 7:30Speaker 2: mind winning a World Series, and we are in a
- 7:33Speaker 2: copycat league, Todd Father, you know what we would have
- 7:35Speaker 2: been doing all off season long. Look at the Padres.
- 7:38Speaker 2: They've got the perfect model. They've got a really good team,
- 7:41Speaker 2: but they have a super bullpen. It is the best
- 7:45Speaker 2: stuff bullpen in baseball. And that's why they won. And
- 7:48Speaker 2: we would think even more about Cleveland too, even though
- 7:51Speaker 2: they didn't end up winning, and that c yes, we'd
- 7:53Speaker 2: be like, look, Cleveland and San Diego had just ridiculous
- 7:56Speaker 2: bullpens and that's something that can carry you obviously during
- 7:59Speaker 2: a season, but also in October, and there's depth to it.
- 8:02Speaker 2: When you look at those two teams, you're like, there's
- 8:04Speaker 2: four or five guys that could be closers around most
- 8:07Speaker 2: of the league. So if the Padre has ended up
- 8:09Speaker 2: winning at all, I think we would have done that. Now.
- 8:12Speaker 2: The Dodgers bullpen was great too, and they actually were
- 8:15Speaker 2: dominant plenty of times. I think things got overshadowed at
- 8:20Speaker 2: times because they had to do bullpen games since they
- 8:23Speaker 2: didn't have a starter for every playoff game. But do
- 8:26Speaker 2: you buy into that theory at all Kratz that the
- 8:29Speaker 2: league would have looked around him and like, wait, instead
- 8:32Speaker 2: of spending this much on this guy, this much on
- 8:34Speaker 2: this guy, let's let's just pile together, you know, forty
- 8:37Speaker 2: million bucks on a season, right, and get ourselves four
- 8:41Speaker 2: high leverage relievers that cost us double digit millions.
- 8:46Speaker 1: So you're saying instead of getting the one big guy,
- 8:49Speaker 1: or you're saying, they just piled together as much as
- 8:51Speaker 1: they could.
- 8:54Speaker 2: I'm saying Tanner Scott, who might be in a little
- 8:57Speaker 2: bit of a different category, but as Stevens is in
- 8:59Speaker 2: this category, Yeats is in this category. These are guys
- 9:02Speaker 2: that are on short term deals that are in the
- 9:04Speaker 2: low double digit millions. Right, it's ten, twelve, thirteen in
- 9:08Speaker 2: that range, And I just wonder why a team wouldn't go,
- 9:12Speaker 2: let me get three, four, five of those, because also
- 9:15Speaker 2: I'm going to deal with that at the trade deadline.
- 9:17Speaker 2: The Braves have done a little bit of this in
- 9:19Speaker 2: the past, where they've loaded up their bullpen heading into
- 9:21Speaker 2: a year. They did that more so last year than
- 9:24Speaker 2: this coming season. And I know it can be expensive,
- 9:27Speaker 2: but I just think that the way bullpens are valued
- 9:30Speaker 2: and utilized down the stretch of a season, there should
- 9:34Speaker 2: be more value placed on these guys. Teams are worried
- 9:37Speaker 2: about the risk. Also, some teams Todd Father actually are
- 9:40Speaker 2: able to figure out bullpens without paying much. But that
- 9:43Speaker 2: doesn't mean you shouldn't take this route. And I love
- 9:45Speaker 2: Kratz's point about the Orioles. I'm like, what if the
- 9:48Speaker 2: Ools just had racked up three or four of these
- 9:50Speaker 2: guys and had a Super bowlpen like the Padres. That's
- 9:53Speaker 2: a much sexier team to meet what they actually put
- 9:55Speaker 2: together in the offseason.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Agreed, And I think I want to break down a
- 10:00Speaker 3: couple of things. If the Padres ended up win the
- 10:02Speaker 3: World Series, we'd be dominant in talking about them all day.
- 10:06Speaker 3: It would have been a whole different Padres team in
- 10:08Speaker 3: my opinion, But it didn't happen. As we all know.
- 10:11Speaker 3: You the point you bring about having finding three, four, five,
- 10:15Speaker 3: five through a couple of different relievers, I've been saying
- 10:18Speaker 3: that this whole time, Like, dude, this is the time
- 10:21Speaker 3: of year you can pick up a guy like a
- 10:22Speaker 3: Stevens for you know, cheaper money or whatever. It is,
- 10:26Speaker 3: low low teens. Uh. And there's some really good bullpen
- 10:30Speaker 3: usage of bullpen guys. So that's that's the thing. Are
- 10:33Speaker 3: they are there superior guys where it's like, oh, this
- 10:35Speaker 3: guy's been dominant, you know, for his whole career. Maybe not,
- 10:38Speaker 3: but there's guys right now that are up there all
- 10:41Speaker 3: of a sudden that are going to be a staple
- 10:43Speaker 3: for your team. And I think anything, if you're a
- 10:46Speaker 3: business guy, hey, listen, you know we really like this guy.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Tell me where we're at and find a way to
- 10:52Speaker 3: meet in the middle something and you can go from there.
- 10:54Speaker 3: I know it's harder, you know, saying it out loud
- 10:56Speaker 3: than trying to figure it out, But there's a couple
- 10:58Speaker 3: of steels. There's a couple of packages right now that
- 11:00Speaker 3: you can get for cheaper, which you know it sounds terrible,
- 11:04Speaker 3: but you know that's the way it is as you
- 11:06Speaker 3: get closer to spring training.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Yep, all right, so let's get to one more on
- 11:10Speaker 2: this front. Because the Red stay active. And if you
- 11:13Speaker 2: check out our Instagram story, Todd Father and I gave
- 11:16Speaker 2: them a little shout out. They've been doing things. They
- 11:20Speaker 2: pick up Taylor Rogers from the Giants, They get a
- 11:23Speaker 2: little money to cover the contract for this season Rogers
- 11:26Speaker 2: is to twelve million bucks. They give away a minor
- 11:29Speaker 2: league pitcher by the name of Braxton Roxby. And now
- 11:33Speaker 2: you start to look at all of the activity for
- 11:35Speaker 2: Cincinnati this offseason, and it's Nick Martinez returning on a
- 11:39Speaker 2: qualifying offer to add swing man depth. You acquire Gavin Lux,
- 11:45Speaker 2: You acquire Brady Singer to help with starting pitching depth
- 11:49Speaker 2: and innings issues. Suitor be Kratz's boy for a little
- 11:52Speaker 2: more in the bullpen. Austin Hayes instead of Luis Robert,
- 11:56Speaker 2: who they were trying to acquire, and Ken told us
- 11:58Speaker 2: about it and they finally gave up and Hayes instead.
- 12:01Speaker 2: This past weekend, who was a Travino for more catcher
- 12:04Speaker 2: depth with him and Tyler Stevenson, you look back Kratz
- 12:07Speaker 2: and on fair territory, Hanna Kaiser mentioned how they had
- 12:10Speaker 2: the worst one run record in baseball and if you're
- 12:13Speaker 2: talking about most losses or lost percentage, but whatever it is,
- 12:16Speaker 2: they were losing close games. They probably looked and said, Okay,
- 12:18Speaker 2: we were losing close games, we were missing a few
- 12:20Speaker 2: big boys, and we're gonna do a little bit of
- 12:23Speaker 2: a positive roster turnover, I would call it. And at depth,
- 12:27Speaker 2: I like their off season.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Great. I mean great off season. When you when you
- 12:32Speaker 1: put it all out there, I honestly forgot. I remembered
- 12:35Speaker 1: all the moves, but I forgot that they made all
- 12:38Speaker 1: of them. Like you sit there and you go, oh, yeah,
- 12:41Speaker 1: they got Travino. He's not going to be a starter,
- 12:43Speaker 1: he's not gonna be overexposed. I get it. He was
- 12:45Speaker 1: an all star platinum glove. But now all of a sudden,
- 12:48Speaker 1: you get Tyler Stevenson in there and you rest his legs.
- 12:51Speaker 1: That seems. That seems the way that all teams are going.
- 12:55Speaker 1: And this dude is, you know, the best glove you
- 12:59Speaker 1: can get behind dish that was available, and all these
- 13:01Speaker 1: moves were made out out of the necessity that they
- 13:07Speaker 1: have a really good core. They have Matt McLean, they
- 13:09Speaker 1: have Ellie, they have TJ. Friedel all dudes that are,
- 13:14Speaker 1: in my opinion, can take the next step. I mean,
- 13:17Speaker 1: Ellie taking the next step is ridiculous. You know, you
- 13:20Speaker 1: go from third and MVV to first. I guess that's
- 13:23Speaker 1: the only step you can really take. But you sit
- 13:27Speaker 1: there and you go, this team wants to win, and
- 13:30Speaker 1: how do I know that the moves they made, the
- 13:33Speaker 1: moves they made around their young core, which is exciting.
- 13:37Speaker 1: And really, if you had if you had me ask,
- 13:39Speaker 1: or if you had me, guess what team makes the
- 13:42Speaker 1: biggest jump from last year. It's been the Reds all
- 13:46Speaker 1: off season, just for the fact that they're getting guys
- 13:49Speaker 1: back on their roster that are huge, huge impacts.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Yeah, and I agree totally. I think thing about the
- 13:57Speaker 3: comparisons here, what the Royals did last year offseason, I
- 14:00Speaker 3: compare them to what the Reds are doing. You know,
- 14:02Speaker 3: it's totally different guys, but you know, superb players, guys
- 14:06Speaker 3: that you know have been there before that are looking
- 14:09Speaker 3: for a squad to you know, get after it. Do
- 14:11Speaker 3: the Reds have a chance to win the division now
- 14:14Speaker 3: this year? Uh oh, that's something to talk about. Really,
- 14:17Speaker 3: they have a great opportunity. They have really good ballplayers
- 14:20Speaker 3: and now there is a chance here that the Reds
- 14:23Speaker 3: do win this and NOL Central they do. They have
- 14:26Speaker 3: the chance of fresh and healthy Matty McLean, Hunter Green,
- 14:30Speaker 3: who was dominant, who was in talks of winning the
- 14:33Speaker 3: Sy Young Award. I mean they have, you know, just
- 14:35Speaker 3: to name a few. I mean, he keep going to
- 14:38Speaker 3: lle and in a NonStop elly. Of course that's Scotty's boy.
- 14:42Speaker 3: But Tito Francona, come on, guys, I mean pieces are
- 14:45Speaker 3: starting to fall into place.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I like when teams do things. I
- 14:49Speaker 2: know you're not trying to do things just to do things.
- 14:52Speaker 2: But when we talk so much about business and how
- 14:55Speaker 2: MLB teams and owners care about revenue over all else,
- 14:59Speaker 2: or at least some of them, do you know the
- 15:01Speaker 2: best way to help business and to help ticket sales
- 15:04Speaker 2: a little freshness shoes?
- 15:07Speaker 3: Right?
- 15:07Speaker 2: I know I've spoken to plenty of ticket sales guys,
- 15:10Speaker 2: the girls who will say, damn, our team hasn't done anything.
- 15:13Speaker 2: When I'm on these phone and tickets they're like, so,
- 15:15Speaker 2: what have you done this offseason? So with Cincinnati, did
- 15:18Speaker 2: they sign two hundred million dollars of players? No, but
- 15:21Speaker 2: they did things. They made a lot of moves, they
- 15:23Speaker 2: did positive roster turnover. All right, we'll swing back with
- 15:26Speaker 2: former REGs GM Jim Bowden on FT. But before that,
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- 15:50Speaker 1: Be right back, Yeah, that's what he said.
- 15:52Speaker 2: That's what he said.
- 15:54Speaker 1: That's what he said.
- 15:55Speaker 2: That's what we said. Let's get to a couple of
- 15:59Speaker 2: things here, Astros and Tigers. Let's start at the Astros.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Ryan Presley was traded the other day, the deal official,
- 16:05Speaker 2: And then you hear from people like Dana Brown, who
- 16:07Speaker 2: again actually is one of the better gms in baseball
- 16:11Speaker 2: for accessibility, always talking to the media and very often
- 16:14Speaker 2: giving you the less calculated answers. If you're a GM
- 16:19Speaker 2: and you listen to the show, or an assistant GM
- 16:21Speaker 2: and you know who you are and you're out there
- 16:23Speaker 2: and you give the most annoying, calculated office buzz terms,
- 16:28Speaker 2: it's gotta stop. It's a business, but it's fun anyway.
- 16:32Speaker 3: He said.
- 16:32Speaker 2: The relationship with Ryan Presley took a different turn after
- 16:36Speaker 2: the Astro signed Josh Hater last year. Brown used the
- 16:38Speaker 2: word fractured and said it wasn't the same as we
- 16:42Speaker 2: first met. This tweet coming from our guy Chandler Rome,
- 16:45Speaker 2: who writes for The Athletic and hosts Crush Sitter City Territory.
- 16:49Speaker 2: So I was listening to that podcast the other day
- 16:52Speaker 2: with Crush City and Northside Territory. They did a crossover episode.
- 16:57Speaker 2: And even though the Astros the fractured relationship with Presley,
- 17:02Speaker 2: it's not like he took it personal with Hater. Hater's
- 17:04Speaker 2: just a free agent signs. Apparently they have like kids,
- 17:07Speaker 2: similar agent. They were hanging out off the field, So
- 17:09Speaker 2: it wasn't that Presley was just like, Yo, look what
- 17:11Speaker 2: I've done in the playoffs for you. I just got
- 17:13Speaker 2: demoted for no reason. Even though I'm trying to look
- 17:16Speaker 2: at it from the front office view Todd father and
- 17:18Speaker 2: be like, yeah, but we want to be better and
- 17:20Speaker 2: he is the better reliever, So how are the astro
- 17:24Speaker 2: supposed to play that out without it getting fractured.
- 17:27Speaker 3: It's very hard. It's very hard that back and forth.
- 17:31Speaker 3: You know, why are they signing this top guy? I've
- 17:34Speaker 3: been doing it for years? Did I do something wrong?
- 17:38Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff that goes in your head.
- 17:40Speaker 3: And if I'm presley, you know, inside might not show it,
- 17:43Speaker 3: but I'm likell do I do wrong? You know, like
- 17:46Speaker 3: why is this going on? But on the outside it's like, oh,
- 17:49Speaker 3: this is gonna make this team better. And then ultimately
- 17:52Speaker 3: you lose in the first round against a Tiger team
- 17:54Speaker 3: that just got really hot and found a way to
- 17:55Speaker 3: win games. And then you're sitting back in the office
- 17:58Speaker 3: and told you so, you know in your mind like
- 18:00Speaker 3: you're talking about it like what is you know? What
- 18:02Speaker 3: did I do? And it's hard. You know, you want
- 18:05Speaker 3: to play that card all the time. I'll do anything
- 18:07Speaker 3: for the team as long as the team is doing well.
- 18:09Speaker 3: We win a championship, Well, you didn't win a championship,
- 18:11Speaker 3: so there was was there some dissension. I don't know,
- 18:14Speaker 3: I don't know the whole thing. I know, uh, they
- 18:17Speaker 3: did have a pretty good team. But at the end
- 18:18Speaker 3: of the day, I love this. I love to hear
- 18:21Speaker 3: exactly you know, what he thought and what really went on,
- 18:24Speaker 3: because guess what, that's human nature and that's life. People
- 18:28Speaker 3: have their own opinions and feelings about anything they do.
- 18:30Speaker 2: But for me Kratz, it's like if it was a
- 18:33Speaker 2: superstar catcher and then someone else gets signed and then
- 18:35Speaker 2: he gets bumped to the bench. Okay, I get it right, Like,
- 18:38Speaker 2: let's let's take a catcher that we like in the
- 18:41Speaker 2: big leagues who's really good but not the best, Like
- 18:43Speaker 2: who's the best catcher in baseball right now? Or one
- 18:45Speaker 2: of the best catchers in baseball. Let's just try to
- 18:47Speaker 2: use this success. Hey JT. Realmuto, but give me, give
- 18:52Speaker 2: me a name a little bit below him, But who's
- 18:55Speaker 2: a solid starting catcher.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Younger?
- 19:00Speaker 2: Okay, So if you're Tyler Stevenson and then the Reds
- 19:04Speaker 2: acquired JT. Real Muto, Tyler might be like, I don't
- 19:08Speaker 2: know if that was the best use of resources, And
- 19:10Speaker 2: now I'm getting bumped to the bench because I'm not
- 19:12Speaker 2: playing another position. Let's say he's not playing first for
- 19:14Speaker 2: them either. Okay, that's different to me than a bullpen
- 19:18Speaker 2: of seven plus guys and enough room for everyone. It's
- 19:22Speaker 2: just a change of roles within that bullpen. And if
- 19:24Speaker 2: you do want to win a World Series, you do
- 19:26Speaker 2: want to sack the hell of that bullpen. We just
- 19:28Speaker 2: talked about that at the top of the show.
- 19:31Speaker 1: That's why it's not That's why I don't think it
- 19:33Speaker 1: affected the team. I think it affected Dana Brown and
- 19:38Speaker 1: Alex Presley's relationship because when a guy like Josh Hayter
- 19:42Speaker 1: is on your radar to sign, you're not going to
- 19:46Speaker 1: You're not if you're an open dam which I feel
- 19:48Speaker 1: like Dana Brown really is, You're not going to Alex
- 19:51Speaker 1: Presley and being like, how do you feel about us
- 19:54Speaker 1: signing out Josh Hater?
- 19:56Speaker 3: Here?
- 19:57Speaker 1: Alex And they're like, I was, Alex, Ryan Presley, Sorry,
- 20:03Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? No, they're gonna tell him, Hey,
- 20:05Speaker 1: we're gonna go sign Josh Hater to make our bullpen better.
- 20:09Speaker 1: And then he gets to wonder, am I gonna lose
- 20:12Speaker 1: my Am I gonna lose my job? Am I gonna
- 20:14Speaker 1: lose my role? Well, he really cares about the team.
- 20:18Speaker 1: He said all the right things, so it's not gonna
- 20:19Speaker 1: affect on the field. But you know what, I feel
- 20:22Speaker 1: like Dana Brown owed me a little bit more. So
- 20:24Speaker 1: maybe that's where the relationship can get fractured. I don't
- 20:27Speaker 1: think I had anything to do with the fact that
- 20:29Speaker 1: they put the best team out there to win and
- 20:31Speaker 1: that's all players won.
- 20:35Speaker 2: So they talked about how Presley actually stepped it up
- 20:39Speaker 2: a ton last year as more of a veteran presence
- 20:41Speaker 2: because he's a pretty quiet, out of the limelight guy,
- 20:44Speaker 2: but when the team was struggling earlier than the season,
- 20:46Speaker 2: he would hold court with young pitchers. Apparently he was
- 20:49Speaker 2: a huge help for Hunter Brown's turn around to end success,
- 20:52Speaker 2: which was a big deal for the Astros. I get
- 20:55Speaker 2: everything that everyone's saying. The only part that I don't
- 20:57Speaker 2: understand is how the Astros are supposed to play this
- 21:00Speaker 2: part out, Like what would have been the.
- 21:02Speaker 3: Way to do it.
- 21:02Speaker 2: The only thing I could come up with is if
- 21:05Speaker 2: they said, okay, like we're bringing on hater, but we're
- 21:07Speaker 2: just gonna tell him like, you're going to pitch the
- 21:09Speaker 2: eighth and Presley's going to pitch the ninth and that
- 21:11Speaker 2: would have made him happy because then you get both arms,
- 21:15Speaker 2: but you're putting one in a spot either way that
- 21:18Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be in or that he's less
- 21:20Speaker 2: comfortable in.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Right.
- 21:21Speaker 2: Okay, So so just to clarify, the Astros did nothing wrong.
- 21:25Speaker 3: But can I just jump in here though Hater wanted
- 21:28Speaker 3: to be the closer and Presley wants to be the closer,
- 21:31Speaker 3: right or wrong, that's the problem. So when one person
- 21:34Speaker 3: becomes a closer, the other bun's going to be like,
- 21:37Speaker 3: especially after he did so well. So I see the
- 21:39Speaker 3: side of what Presley is talking about. Like, listen, I've
- 21:42Speaker 3: been I've been the top dog. I've been you know,
- 21:44Speaker 3: in World Series Championships, I've been getting last outs. You know,
- 21:48Speaker 3: why am I? Why am I? You know? It's him
- 21:50Speaker 3: or I kind of deal. But I know Presley, he's
- 21:52Speaker 3: a he's a veteran. He understands, he's not going to
- 21:54Speaker 3: say much. But in that situation, it's all you got
- 21:57Speaker 3: to pick one or the other. Yeah, that's and they
- 21:59Speaker 3: didn't pick me, meaning you know, so I'm not trying
- 22:01Speaker 3: to argue be that person. But he's got feelings, I guess.
- 22:05Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to understand it.
- 22:07Speaker 2: I get like the alpha dog mentality, but I'm saying,
- 22:10Speaker 2: what did the astros do? So if they pick up nothing,
- 22:13Speaker 2: they pick up pay her? Okay, And I'm on the
- 22:15Speaker 2: phone with you and you're pressing, I'm like, and they
- 22:17Speaker 2: did give him heads up, but they didn't say, like,
- 22:18Speaker 2: can we acquire him? They were like, we're going to
- 22:20Speaker 2: We're just letting you know that he's probably gonna be
- 22:22Speaker 2: our guy for the ninth next year.
- 22:24Speaker 3: Right.
- 22:24Speaker 2: So if I'm on the phone and I'm like, are
- 22:25Speaker 2: you cool with that? And you're like, man, I don't
- 22:27Speaker 2: really love that.
- 22:28Speaker 3: What do you want us to do?
- 22:29Speaker 2: If you want us to not sign the player and
- 22:31Speaker 2: put us in a worst position, we feel like there's
- 22:34Speaker 2: value here.
- 22:34Speaker 3: On the market.
- 22:35Speaker 2: You guys are just saying it is what it is.
- 22:37Speaker 2: This is just the nature of a competitive player who
- 22:40Speaker 2: had a position for a while within a team and
- 22:42Speaker 2: he had to change roles.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Everybody gets everybody gets replaced, everybody gets replaced, and when
- 22:48Speaker 1: that stuff happens, you got to look at it and
- 22:51Speaker 1: be like, well, I'm not spending another five years here.
- 22:54Speaker 1: So I get what the Orc's trying to do. And
- 22:56Speaker 1: you know what I get two years with this dude,
- 22:59Speaker 1: I get two years with the best reliever in baseball
- 23:03Speaker 1: added to our core. That's down there. I'm game with it.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Whether it was that fast, no, it probably took a
- 23:11Speaker 1: few days. But again, you don't have to build that relation.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Dana Brown and Ryan Presley do not have to be friends.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Like that's not a that's like, you don't have to
- 23:22Speaker 1: be friends with your GM. Now your manager and you
- 23:24Speaker 1: you got to talk it out. Joe Aspata did a
- 23:26Speaker 1: good job supposedly about sitting them down and talking them
- 23:29Speaker 1: through it. So that's a relationship. I think that needs
- 23:32Speaker 1: to be mended and talked through. But your GM, you
- 23:36Speaker 1: could never talk to your GM, and you guys win
- 23:38Speaker 1: a World Series easy pas yep.
- 23:41Speaker 2: Well, of course there's some gms that are around all
- 23:44Speaker 2: the time and some that barely talk to players. We
- 23:47Speaker 2: can do a whole segment on that. But in the meantime,
- 23:51Speaker 2: and by the way, what was I gonna say? Oh,
- 23:55Speaker 2: Joe Aspata did also mention how you know things got
- 23:59Speaker 2: fractured a little after that part too, just drawing that
- 24:01Speaker 2: out there. Yet, there was a lot to it, and
- 24:03Speaker 2: they had a super slow start, but obviously picked it
- 24:06Speaker 2: picked it up, didn't get the job done in the
- 24:08Speaker 2: playoffs because of the Tigers. So let's hit the Tigers
- 24:11Speaker 2: for a few minutes. Cody Stavenhagen, host oh Tiger Territory
- 24:15Speaker 2: and the Athletic Tigers beat writer said or posted at
- 24:19Speaker 2: Scott Haires quote said, I think the bullpen in our
- 24:21Speaker 2: lineup are two areas that we are going to look
- 24:23Speaker 2: to upgrade if we can. But we also loved our
- 24:24Speaker 2: depth on both sides of the ball. I love always
- 24:27Speaker 2: throwing that line after there, but just in case we
- 24:28Speaker 2: don't get anyone, please don't kill me. But I'm a
- 24:34Speaker 2: big fan of that move. I'm still a little bit
- 24:37Speaker 2: underwhelmed with their offseason, coming off such a successful year
- 24:40Speaker 2: and to me, a division that can be taken, and
- 24:44Speaker 2: the Tigers had like a little smoke and mirrors action. A. J.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Hinch even told us that this past weekend to how
- 24:51Speaker 2: they put everything together to say, season after season, you're
- 24:55Speaker 2: going to have schoobl and the rest. It's just tough.
- 24:59Speaker 2: So I like the Glave Torres edition. I think he
- 25:01Speaker 2: could have a nice replatform season for Detroit. Cainley cool
- 25:06Speaker 2: Alex Cobb for some veteran depth, so we're getting there.
- 25:10Speaker 2: But I thought that they were one of those locks
- 25:13Speaker 2: to get one of the big boys. And Bregman still
- 25:15Speaker 2: out there, so it still could happen. But I just
- 25:17Speaker 2: figured Detroit was going to go down that route and
- 25:19Speaker 2: didn't realize that they had so much PTSD about the
- 25:22Speaker 2: big money giving out to hobby bias.
- 25:27Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, listen from what I saw last year
- 25:30Speaker 3: with the Tigers and how they came through and took
- 25:32Speaker 3: care of Houston. I was a masterpiece of what they
- 25:37Speaker 3: did of putting guys in understand, Listen, no no eye
- 25:40Speaker 3: guys on this team. One guy would bat first, and
- 25:43Speaker 3: then the next time he'd bat seventh, he'd bat ninth.
- 25:45Speaker 3: One game, it just depended on who was pitching, and
- 25:47Speaker 3: then they figured out what pitchers need to throw in
- 25:50Speaker 3: what innings and it worked to perfection. And yeah, I
- 25:54Speaker 3: was thinking, like I, when are they gonna get this big?
- 25:57Speaker 3: This offseason gonna be great because they got the guys
- 25:59Speaker 3: in each position. Now you need a big dog to
- 26:01Speaker 3: come in as well and be a dominant pitcher, uh,
- 26:04Speaker 3: a reliever. They got Canley, of course, but that that
- 26:07Speaker 3: one guy that I just feel like they're missing, and
- 26:10Speaker 3: you know, we don't have much time off Scotty. We
- 26:12Speaker 3: talk about it all the time. There's still opportunities to
- 26:15Speaker 3: grab guys. It's still a destination right now where people
- 26:18Speaker 3: want to go. Yeah, is it cold. It's not fun
- 26:20Speaker 3: to play in that that that stadium when it's freezing,
- 26:22Speaker 3: But it's baseball at the end of the day. And
- 26:24Speaker 3: I think what they have going there is really really
- 26:26Speaker 3: fun and we're gonna see it fun for a lot
- 26:27Speaker 3: of years.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a good core. I just I want
- 26:30Speaker 2: flarity and I want pregnant, because that's what we do
- 26:32Speaker 2: on this show. We spend money of other ball clubs.
- 26:34Speaker 2: But if you look at their payroll compared to what
- 26:36Speaker 2: it used to be, you're like, yeah, they can definitely
- 26:38Speaker 2: add those two guys. Anyway, let's give you a little
- 26:40Speaker 2: bite from uh wait, was it Parker Meadows on It
- 26:45Speaker 2: was like about to say, Austin, I got my Austin
- 26:48Speaker 2: my park.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I'm calling it Ryan Presley, Alex Presley. They're
- 26:54Speaker 1: not even close to being brothers.
- 26:56Speaker 2: That's your former Pirates teammate probably. But anyway, let's get
- 26:59Speaker 2: Parker on Tiger Territory with a few words here.
- 27:03Speaker 5: I want to know what is that locker room? Like,
- 27:06Speaker 5: what type of dude is Parker Meadows in the locker room?
- 27:09Speaker 5: I was a straight clown, bro, so so what's park
- 27:12Speaker 5: of Meadows like in the in the clubhouse.
- 27:16Speaker 6: I'm a little bit of a clown too. I don't
- 27:19Speaker 6: like to take everything too serious, but I'm usually the
- 27:23Speaker 6: quiet guy that kind of observes the room and sees
- 27:26Speaker 6: what the vibes like, and once I recognize the vibes,
- 27:29Speaker 6: I'll kind of fall into place with that. I'm pretty
- 27:33Speaker 6: aware of what's going on. But I'm pretty good at
- 27:38Speaker 6: ping pong. We play ping pong a lot. I'm up
- 27:40Speaker 6: there on the leaderboard for ping pong. Others will probably disagree, but.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I don't know.
- 27:47Speaker 3: I like to have fun.
- 27:47Speaker 6: I like to try to keep everybody loose.
- 27:52Speaker 2: Nice Parker Meadows, who had, you know, a much better
- 27:55Speaker 2: second half. You know, he was struggling against the breaking balls,
- 27:58Speaker 2: which was the same problem the year before, also just
- 28:01Speaker 2: came back when I was a little more aggressive.
- 28:03Speaker 3: Who doesn't struggle against breaking ball? No, I know, I know.
- 28:06Speaker 3: I'm just say yeah, I never could.
- 28:08Speaker 2: I struggled with them in Little league, so that was
- 28:10Speaker 2: it for me.
- 28:11Speaker 3: You still struggle with breaking ball.
- 28:12Speaker 2: I still do.
- 28:13Speaker 3: We're gonna have a conversation. We're gonna go down here
- 28:15Speaker 3: in the lab. We're gonna work. But yeah, breaking balls
- 28:21Speaker 3: are hard to I think I was probably like a
- 28:22Speaker 3: one fifty average against all speed pitchers. But when they
- 28:25Speaker 3: threw me that fastball, like Cratzy thought he could sneak
- 28:27Speaker 3: the cheese by the rats. Sometimes all of a sudden
- 28:30Speaker 3: he goes, yeah, you know, the glove goes down. Damn.
- 28:34Speaker 3: I never I never took my off that fastball.
- 28:36Speaker 2: I like this Tiger's team more obviously on the Tigers
- 28:41Speaker 2: on Tiger Territory. So make sure you check out the show.
- 28:43Speaker 2: Look it up wherever you watch your team shows. We're
- 28:47Speaker 2: getting ready for Ti, Oscar Hernandez too. There's your Tiger
- 28:51Speaker 2: Territory part of the FT Network. And if you're look
- 28:53Speaker 2: into your right and you're like, hey Jackson, that's Austin Jackson,
- 28:57Speaker 2: mister nice man with the grizzly beard. Part of that
- 29:01Speaker 2: Kieren Steckley, Cody Stavenhagen crew, go give it a look
- 29:04Speaker 2: and listen. The ultimate teaser. I saw this the other
- 29:08Speaker 2: day from Ryan Divish. The Mariners signed Louis Castillo, and
- 29:12Speaker 2: then people were confused, but it's a different Louis Castillo.
- 29:16Speaker 2: And if anything, when I see Mariners and Louis Castillo,
- 29:19Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys are, but notifications in
- 29:22Speaker 2: the off season, I'm immediately going, where's he going? Because
- 29:24Speaker 2: he's been in trade rumors now comb and I was like, ah,
- 29:27Speaker 2: this is just one of those cute little baby signings
- 29:30Speaker 2: that are being put out there. There's Hayman signing Luis F. Castillo,
- 29:34Speaker 2: a right handed pitcher, not to be confused with Louis M. Castillo.
- 29:37Speaker 2: They're all star, righty, it's minor league contract, MLB camp invite.
- 29:40Speaker 2: He was with Chibilate and Orrix the last couple of
- 29:43Speaker 2: years over in Japan.
- 29:45Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see how this goes.
- 29:46Speaker 2: I mean it's not you know, you know what they
- 29:48Speaker 2: say when you enter that clubhouse. It's a clubhouse. I'm
- 29:51Speaker 2: big enough for to Louis Castillos.
- 29:54Speaker 3: I think of the combio is they're a good combio
- 29:56Speaker 3: in there, right? Can he be?
- 29:59Speaker 2: Castillo? Ste might not be on the opening day roster
- 30:03Speaker 2: film for the Mariners. A good one, Well, yeah, you
- 30:05Speaker 2: might get traded.
- 30:06Speaker 3: A good one. I like that there prove it more
- 30:09Speaker 3: proven one, Yeah, yeah, I want you to say that
- 30:12Speaker 3: the Louis which one.
- 30:15Speaker 2: Dude, you're amazing, you're a big league ballplayer, but you're
- 30:18Speaker 2: not Louise m.
- 30:20Speaker 3: I hope he is.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Do you think he gets traded Kratz we call.
- 30:26Speaker 3: Traded.
- 30:29Speaker 1: I don't. The only the only reason I don't is
- 30:32Speaker 1: because I don't think teams just watching the whole Stroman
- 30:37Speaker 1: Saga and even even to the Presley Saga team are
- 30:41Speaker 1: just in trades. They're looking for that contract to just
- 30:44Speaker 1: be sliced. They just want they don't want to pay it,
- 30:48Speaker 1: even though I think Luis castell is a twenty four
- 30:51Speaker 1: million dollars a year pitcher right now. Like to me,
- 30:54Speaker 1: there should be teams lined up, there should be the
- 30:57Speaker 1: Orioles lined up, But I just think they're they don't
- 31:00Speaker 1: want it. I don't think the match will happen. I
- 31:03Speaker 1: just think the teams aren't gonna line up because nobody's
- 31:06Speaker 1: gonna want to pay that much for some reason, and
- 31:08Speaker 1: the Mariners aren't gonna want to eat that much.
- 31:11Speaker 2: I'm going against you. I think he gets dealt in
- 31:14Speaker 2: spring training when either an arm goes down or a
- 31:16Speaker 2: team realizes their arms are not good enough. Oma and
- 31:20Speaker 2: the chat said teams are hungry for starters. Seattle needs
- 31:23Speaker 2: better bats house Seattle not trading. Yeah, I mean, this's
- 31:26Speaker 2: gotta be tough trader. Jerry has a nickname for a reason,
- 31:29Speaker 2: but he's pretty hamstrung. I do hope that they do something.
- 31:32Speaker 2: I just think they need to switch it up a
- 31:34Speaker 2: little bit. There's not been much activity in Seattle.
- 31:37Speaker 3: But when you got a good the pitching staff, for
- 31:39Speaker 3: people talking about how good they are, it's tough to
- 31:42Speaker 3: get rid of those good pitching. Beat's good hitting all day.
- 31:45Speaker 3: It's not working.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Oh wow, he's back.
- 31:55Speaker 3: Not let's hit the office. Let's hit the office.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Can I can I help to present the case here
- 32:00Speaker 2: because I'm going to you're in person, so let me
- 32:03Speaker 2: take a seat to father to father. All right. You know,
- 32:09Speaker 2: I got a little problem here. I'm an executive that's
- 32:13Speaker 2: part of the Tonto front office. I'm not going to
- 32:15Speaker 2: say who I am. I could be a GM, I
- 32:17Speaker 2: could be assistant GYM.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Don't show your name on here. I don't you.
- 32:20Speaker 2: I don't want to say anything. But you know we're
- 32:21Speaker 2: having trouble consistently recruiting players to sign with us.
- 32:26Speaker 3: Notebook place.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Yeah, this is something where you probably need to write
- 32:30Speaker 2: this down because there's a lot to it. And if
- 32:32Speaker 2: I start to tell you the intricacies of some of
- 32:33Speaker 2: the offers that we put together, you're going to need
- 32:36Speaker 2: to write a whole book just on that Anthony Santander
- 32:39Speaker 2: deferred contract. So the Jays keep going to the ten
- 32:43Speaker 2: yard line and then they miss so. Andy Martino, who
- 32:48Speaker 2: covers the Mets in depth, said that the Jays got
- 32:51Speaker 2: close last week with Alonzo, but it didn't get finalized,
- 32:55Speaker 2: hence the potential pivot back towards the Mets. It sounds
- 32:58Speaker 2: like there's a lot of deferral action going on. The
- 33:01Speaker 2: Blue Jays are trying to do their Dodger impressions. So
- 33:04Speaker 2: how do we get the deal done more consistently. We've
- 33:06Speaker 2: done a few things. We got ourselves, Jeff Hoffman, and
- 33:09Speaker 2: we got Anthony Santander. But of course that's not good
- 33:12Speaker 2: enough for a playoff team this year.
- 33:14Speaker 3: Here, here, here's the problem when teams are when agents
- 33:18Speaker 3: come to you, I know you don't want to give
- 33:20Speaker 3: them the best offer listen, or want to give them
- 33:24Speaker 3: the offer you really want to do. You want to
- 33:25Speaker 3: hear what they're doing, but sometimes you got to bite
- 33:28Speaker 3: the bullet. You got to get out of the way
- 33:30Speaker 3: and say, listen, we understand this is what you want.
- 33:32Speaker 3: We're going to go a little more, do you How
- 33:35Speaker 3: do you like that?
- 33:36Speaker 2: Pay more? Though, because it's it's just on our show.
- 33:39Speaker 2: It said that they offer market value just like everyone else.
- 33:42Speaker 3: They can't. You can't do that anymore. People don't want
- 33:45Speaker 3: to go up there. It's just the way it is.
- 33:47Speaker 3: People don't want to go up to Canada. Some guys
- 33:51Speaker 3: are afraid to. I don't get it. I like Canada.
- 33:54Speaker 2: I don't have like grizzly bears with no syrp, no ballpark.
- 33:58Speaker 2: They're in the woods.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Is it an advertising place to go to? I don't
- 34:01Speaker 3: think so. Not anymore. These guys, they for some reason,
- 34:04Speaker 3: they will think about it. Toronto will keep them in
- 34:07Speaker 3: the back of our minds in case this deal doesn't
- 34:09Speaker 3: go through. Well, why Toronto starts spending a little morning.
- 34:12Speaker 3: You know me, money's vital to me. I gotta make
- 34:15Speaker 3: sure I got minds and you got to make sure
- 34:17Speaker 3: you got yours. So so understand, make it a little
- 34:21Speaker 3: more appetizing, that's all so.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Because our taxes are higher up there, we need to
- 34:24Speaker 2: pay a player just a little bit more.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Of the listen, five years for one hundred million, five years,
- 34:30Speaker 3: one hundred and ten million. What's the big difference? Ten
- 34:32Speaker 3: million dollars? Is that a difference? It's a big It's a.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Difference, but not much, since you know, we're a massive telecommunication.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Anthony Santander, Jeff Hoffmin. They got the players, they need
- 34:42Speaker 3: one more. Peter Lonzo, You're still in the mix, but
- 34:45Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a few calls. Eric, don't tell anybody
- 34:49Speaker 3: about this. The problem will be fixed sooner than later.
- 34:57Speaker 1: I feel like Todd. I feel like Todd kind of
- 34:59Speaker 1: has some family that works with the Jays, the fact
- 35:01Speaker 1: that they like swindle swindle their money like around like, oh,
- 35:06Speaker 1: you know what, the loonies and tunis a Canadian dollars
- 35:10Speaker 1: strong this year, we're gonna get three percent of your
- 35:13Speaker 1: paycheck in loonies and tunies and forty percent and when
- 35:18Speaker 1: the dollar is strong, we're gonna give you sixty percent
- 35:21Speaker 1: of dollar. Like it's like it's right up, it's right
- 35:25Speaker 1: up your people's alley there, Todd, make sure make sure
- 35:28Speaker 1: I get Yeah, your people, you know what I'm talking about.
- 35:32Speaker 3: Listen, you're gonna get a call after the show. Hey,
- 35:36Speaker 3: you better be careful.
- 35:37Speaker 1: I'm driving out there tomorrow. If everybody wants to come
- 35:40Speaker 1: and see me, they can come and see you.
- 35:41Speaker 3: Don't say that. Don't you say that?
- 35:43Speaker 2: Well now we know now, lok.
- 35:46Speaker 3: You better digress.
- 35:48Speaker 1: I don't digress. I don't back down. I'm Amish.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't mess with the Amish. They're good people.
- 35:55Speaker 3: We like the Amish.
- 35:55Speaker 2: There's another good point here from the chat. The Blue
- 36:00Speaker 2: Jays need to win and use that as an appealing
- 36:02Speaker 2: pitch for free agency. So here's the other factor. Okay,
- 36:05Speaker 2: because I feel like sometimes this show gets a bad rep.
- 36:08Speaker 2: They it's a good rep with some teams, a bad
- 36:09Speaker 2: rep with others. Where really, I promise you we don't
- 36:12Speaker 2: give a flying bleep about which team is thriving or not.
- 36:16Speaker 2: We want in generally cool storylines. We actually want teams
- 36:19Speaker 2: that have been struggling for a minute to find success.
- 36:23Speaker 2: So with a club like Toronto, they need to show
- 36:25Speaker 2: that they're a good team. Good farm system helps. If
- 36:28Speaker 2: everything's the same and it's todd that's where players will
- 36:31Speaker 2: start to look at things. So I have to deal
- 36:32Speaker 2: with customs. It's just a fact of life, and it's.
- 36:35Speaker 3: About family too. Yeah, well, my wife, my kids, my
- 36:38Speaker 3: you know, some have to stay for school in the
- 36:41Speaker 3: United States. Some God, don't worry. We homeschool will be
- 36:44Speaker 3: all right. It's that mismatch. There's a whole lot of
- 36:47Speaker 3: stuff that goes on leaving the country for sure.
- 36:49Speaker 2: Ten million bucks more. That certainly helps to figure out
- 36:52Speaker 2: the school system.
- 36:53Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get a nanny, then you can bring somebody
- 36:54Speaker 3: with you.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Exactly, popcorner quickly here. First off, poll results, which of
- 37:02Speaker 2: these teams is best in the NL Central. You're only
- 37:04Speaker 2: allowed to put four options, so we went Brewers, Cubs, Reds, Pirates. Oh,
- 37:07Speaker 2: I guess we didn't include the Cardinals. I would have
- 37:10Speaker 2: not included the Pirates, but I don't want to think
- 37:13Speaker 2: with both of them.
- 37:14Speaker 1: No, Cardinals are worse.
- 37:16Speaker 2: Are I think the Cardinals are worse than the Pirates
- 37:19Speaker 2: this coming season?
- 37:21Speaker 1: No?
- 37:23Speaker 3: No, well that's gonna be a good one.
- 37:24Speaker 2: Cardinals over Pirates. You might have to place a friendly
- 37:26Speaker 2: wager on that one. But anyway, Reds Cubs, Brewers, Who
- 37:29Speaker 2: do you think is the best?
- 37:31Speaker 3: We talked about the Reds, but you haven't beat the
- 37:33Speaker 3: Brewers yet, so I'm gonna stick with the Brewers. Right
- 37:36Speaker 3: as of right now.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Okay, it's it's.
- 37:39Speaker 3: Red should win this, but I'm sticking with the Brewers
- 37:42Speaker 3: just on past events.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Crats you got you got to beat the Brewers, but
- 37:47Speaker 1: I think the Reds have the Brewers have done enough.
- 37:55Speaker 2: Okay, well, the Brewers won the poll and then the
- 37:56Speaker 2: Cobs got second, Red's got third. I voted for the Reds.
- 38:00Speaker 2: I haven't decided, but for now I'm going Reds next up.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Susan Sluster reported on Rob Manfred touring the a's new
- 38:07Speaker 2: home ballpark in Sacramento with John Fisher and Vivek. I
- 38:11Speaker 2: don't know how to say his last name, but the
- 38:13Speaker 2: dude who owns the Kings, who I'm sure got a
- 38:16Speaker 2: little FaceTime with the big boys with the league to
- 38:19Speaker 2: try and talk them into staying. But anyway, apparently there
- 38:21Speaker 2: have been some issues there. There's going to be a
- 38:23Speaker 2: three week road trip to resurface the field in June
- 38:27Speaker 2: for their minor league team so they can get it
- 38:29Speaker 2: together because that field's going to take a beating. It
- 38:31Speaker 2: was not made for that initially. Also apparently last yearne
- 38:33Speaker 2: construction workers mistakenly started drilling into a weight room with
- 38:37Speaker 2: a picture working out on the other side of it
- 38:39Speaker 2: from somebody who actually was involved in a little accident
- 38:42Speaker 2: once where they were doing construction a place they shouldn't
- 38:45Speaker 2: and a ceiling collapsed on my body. Yeah that's pretty scary. Yeah,
- 38:48Speaker 2: true story. Don't have time for it right now, but
- 38:50Speaker 2: another time. But anyway, hopefully they get their ish together.
- 38:55Speaker 1: This is how Rob toured Wow the stadium. Thank you?
- 39:02Speaker 1: Is Aaron Judge or Sho Tani here?
- 39:03Speaker 3: Yet?
- 39:06Speaker 2: I do think he goes because he has to be
- 39:09Speaker 2: able to tell players face to face. I went there
- 39:11Speaker 2: and it looks good enough, So deal with it, like
- 39:15Speaker 2: you got to go there one time and say that
- 39:17Speaker 2: you were there, and I know that. You know, the
- 39:19Speaker 2: players on the other side are gonna be like, yo,
- 39:21Speaker 2: we need conditions to be up to this standard. So
- 39:23Speaker 2: we'll see, well, we'll let it play out. We'll see
- 39:25Speaker 2: what it looks like, and then next up, let's just
- 39:28Speaker 2: get to let's pick one rumor from Kenny ballgame here.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Let's because we're gonna talk to Rosenthal tomorrow. But just
- 39:33Speaker 2: a quick thought on the Reds and White Sox talking
- 39:37Speaker 2: but not ending up at deal status. I know we
- 39:40Speaker 2: talked to Jim Bowden about it. How badly do you
- 39:42Speaker 2: think the Red should push or do you think they're
- 39:45Speaker 2: better off just waiting for that price to go down
- 39:47Speaker 2: to one high end prospect and not too.
- 39:52Speaker 3: Man.
- 39:52Speaker 1: I just think this is the time if they if
- 39:55Speaker 1: they feel like Louise Robert is the twenty twenty three
- 39:58Speaker 1: Luis Robert, and they can unlock that, this is the
- 40:01Speaker 1: time to make the move. If they don't. And the
- 40:04Speaker 1: concerns we brought up with Jim Bowden are legitimate. He's
- 40:08Speaker 1: seeing the exact same things I'm seeing, like, you need
- 40:11Speaker 1: this guy one under committed because he can play at
- 40:15Speaker 1: eighty percent health. Everybody talks about health. He's that talented
- 40:20Speaker 1: to me, you add that to that lineup with Ellie
- 40:25Speaker 1: whole Baby and I think I think you talk about
- 40:27Speaker 1: a team that could enjoy or that could really bring
- 40:31Speaker 1: him into the fold. Ellie is another Latin player. To me,
- 40:35Speaker 1: that's a thing. He's a superstar. So there's that connection
- 40:37Speaker 1: there that would help him improve.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Well said, Well said, I agreed, he would have a
- 40:44Speaker 3: lot of homers at this stadium, So UH put a
- 40:47Speaker 3: lot of lot of things in perspective. You know, is
- 40:50Speaker 3: he going to be that workhorse? That's that's my biggest issue.
- 40:54Speaker 3: Can't be any doubt in hustle and energy and emotion, enthusiasm,
- 40:58Speaker 3: all that stuff. But I don't know.
- 41:00Speaker 2: But if you're buying stock and you do believe in
- 41:03Speaker 2: the player, this is the time to try and do
- 41:04Speaker 2: it now. If the asking price is too high, it
- 41:07Speaker 2: is what it is, okay. But if he ends up
- 41:10Speaker 2: starring in the first half of the season, there are
- 41:12Speaker 2: going to be a lot of other teams involved. It
- 41:13Speaker 2: just makes them more difficult. It's both sides of the
- 41:15Speaker 2: coin here. I could also see a trade happening in
- 41:18Speaker 2: a few weeks where you kind of get pushed to shove,
- 41:22Speaker 2: don't want to risk it. They're like, let's do this,
- 41:23Speaker 2: because they did that last year with Dylan Cees. They
- 41:26Speaker 2: waited until March thirteenth and then they traded him to
- 41:29Speaker 2: the Padres. So we'll see at MGM futures. Let's hit
- 41:39Speaker 2: the Rays eighty point five on the win total for
- 41:43Speaker 2: Tampa Bay half and half, so it's a little under
- 41:46Speaker 2: the five hundred mark. They just signed Hasung Kim. You
- 41:49Speaker 2: weren't on with this yesterday, Todd follow I heard a
- 41:52Speaker 2: surprising little addition for the Rays and their highest paid
- 41:56Speaker 2: player of course, now and They're coming off in eighty
- 41:59Speaker 2: one in last year. So at MGM is like, I
- 42:02Speaker 2: challenge you do they go one up, one down? What
- 42:05Speaker 2: are we thinking?
- 42:06Speaker 3: They're playing at a new spot too?
- 42:08Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 42:08Speaker 2: More offense there, oh man.
- 42:11Speaker 3: I feel like you can never count those Rays out
- 42:15Speaker 3: for getting eighty eighty wins. Man.
- 42:17Speaker 1: But then I think, is you got to.
- 42:18Speaker 2: Pick at least one or two teams that are gonna
- 42:20Speaker 2: suck in the division because not every team's gonna win
- 42:22Speaker 2: eighty some odd games. So I'm okay with going over
- 42:25Speaker 2: on the Rays, and I feel like I might do that,
- 42:27Speaker 2: but I do have to be honest with myself and
- 42:29Speaker 2: be like, who's gonna suck in the division.
- 42:35Speaker 3: It's a tough one man.
- 42:36Speaker 2: Right now, For me, it's it's Toronto, it's any team, man.
- 42:41Speaker 3: And I know Kratzy probably would agree with that. He's
- 42:43Speaker 3: he's I don't know. I don't see I don't see
- 42:47Speaker 3: him getting over eighty. I don't see it. I see
- 42:51Speaker 3: under five hundred. I see him battling. But the division
- 42:55Speaker 3: is just too tough. It's just too tough. And I
- 42:57Speaker 3: would I would say in the mid seventy range.
- 42:59Speaker 2: Okay, Krats, I'm taking the under with Todd.
- 43:03Speaker 1: I think that's what Todd's answer was. But I'm taking
- 43:05Speaker 1: the under, but I also want to take eighty and
- 43:08Speaker 1: a half because they're playing in a minor league park.
- 43:10Speaker 1: There might be a game where you know what, guys,
- 43:13Speaker 1: like it's the end of the year, this is our
- 43:15Speaker 1: nineteenth rain out, like each of you gets a half,
- 43:18Speaker 1: So they might actually be the first team to win
- 43:20Speaker 1: eighty and a half. But I'm taking the.
- 43:23Speaker 2: I'll actually take the over. I think that the there
- 43:26Speaker 2: will be a home field advantage because it's gonna be
- 43:28Speaker 2: such a pain for others. Thought about the reschedule and
- 43:30Speaker 2: go through all the rain there and like, yeah, we
- 43:31Speaker 2: did this every day. So anyway, if you want to
- 43:34Speaker 2: play poker inside, aer Kratz is your guy. He is
- 43:38Speaker 2: digitally playing over the next few days in the Gridiron Classics,
- 43:42Speaker 2: So if you'd like to face him, you can win
- 43:43Speaker 2: a custom football jersey every night during this little run.
- 43:46Speaker 2: I entered one quick tournament last night Kratz while I
- 43:49Speaker 2: was in Jersey, and I was out very quickly, went
- 43:52Speaker 2: all in ace king against pocket aces. That is a
- 43:57Speaker 2: pretty trophy, and that is one that you won in
- 43:59Speaker 2: one of these online tournament. So good luck to you
- 44:01Speaker 2: coming up over the next few days. And I heard
- 44:03Speaker 2: Todd Father might be playing in a twenty or two
- 44:05Speaker 2: as well.
- 44:05Speaker 3: Yeah, tonight, right, Cratty, You and I it's a couple.
- 44:10Speaker 1: It's tonight. It's Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The Big Sunday
- 44:14Speaker 1: is the big one. Sunday's the only five hundred dollars
- 44:17Speaker 1: buy in twenty five thousand dollars pot. Let's get at onions.
- 44:41Speaker 2: Friday show will feature Ken Rosenthal, Jonathan Paplevan, and Victor
- 44:45Speaker 2: Scott the Second, the speedster for the Saint Louis Cardinals.
- 44:49Speaker 2: Young ball player with a lot of promise. Anyway, let's
- 44:51Speaker 2: slap so first off, let's get quick comments from everyone here.
- 44:56Speaker 2: We're going to run out of time, but let's do
- 44:57Speaker 2: this first. Adam Silver talking about how MLB is inspirational
- 45:02Speaker 2: for the NBA to make changes of their own.
- 45:05Speaker 7: I'm a fan of what baseball did. I'm a baseball fan,
- 45:08Speaker 7: and i think some of those changes have really increased
- 45:11Speaker 7: sort of the engagement, the entertainment value of the game,
- 45:14Speaker 7: and so I'm paying a lot of attention to that.
- 45:17Speaker 7: And in fact, I've used the pitch clock the sort
- 45:21Speaker 7: of the increasing the size of the base et cetera.
- 45:23Speaker 7: In meetings at the NBA to say, you know, if baseball,
- 45:26Speaker 7: which is more locked into tradition, and I don't mean
- 45:31Speaker 7: that negatively than any other sport, and part of what
- 45:33Speaker 7: baseball provides is the tradition, the legacy that if they're
- 45:36Speaker 7: able to make those changes, certainly we shouldn't be afraid
- 45:39Speaker 7: to look at changes as well.
- 45:42Speaker 2: And that was on the Dan Patrick Show. We like
- 45:44Speaker 2: to give credit to everyone for the hard work that
- 45:45Speaker 2: they do. Please credit your media outlets when they do
- 45:48Speaker 2: hard work and bring on great guests. Anyway, I like
- 45:51Speaker 2: the inspiration part. But for me personally Todd Father as
- 45:55Speaker 2: a long time NBA fan, I don't follow the game
- 45:57Speaker 2: that closely anymore, but I love going to games. I
- 46:00Speaker 2: don't want ten minutes.
- 46:00Speaker 3: That's too damn short.
- 46:01Speaker 2: I feel like twelve is quick. Especially by the time
- 46:04Speaker 2: you get all settled in, I'm like, damn, game's over
- 46:06Speaker 2: and they're in like a two hour fifteen ish. I
- 46:08Speaker 2: want to say a minute range. And MLB. It's the
- 46:10Speaker 2: same thing. With MLB. There was a point where they
- 46:12Speaker 2: were like, oh, we should go to seven innings because
- 46:14Speaker 2: these games are three hours forty minutes. Well, now we
- 46:16Speaker 2: got the time down because we got rid of the
- 46:17Speaker 2: dead time. No no, no, no, no, We're nine innings.
- 46:19Speaker 2: So I see what he's saying, But like, let's speed
- 46:22Speaker 2: up the free throws in the instant replays. I don't
- 46:24Speaker 2: want ten minute quarters.
- 46:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree. It's I love basket Why
- 46:30Speaker 3: I love watching it? I don't know. Maybe it's just
- 46:33Speaker 3: something they've been looking into their analytical department, something that
- 46:37Speaker 3: they have gone on of saying, Man, it's these extra
- 46:40Speaker 3: two minutes. What is that equal eight extra minutes a game?
- 46:45Speaker 3: You know, I feel like it's fast enough. But what
- 46:47Speaker 3: I'm not the expert in all this, so for them.
- 46:50Speaker 3: I like how he talks about baseball. It gives a
- 46:53Speaker 3: new outlook to baseball and how exciting and how some
- 46:55Speaker 3: people perceive baseball. And I think, as a commissioner, that's
- 46:59Speaker 3: really cool to.
- 46:59Speaker 2: Hear crats wigh in and you can do krats hats.
- 47:02Speaker 2: Maybe you can do both things at the same time.
- 47:04Speaker 2: You can show your hat and tats about NBA.
- 47:08Speaker 1: There's no teams in Scranton, but there was a thread
- 47:13Speaker 1: so scrant Wilson Burke and my thing with the NBA
- 47:19Speaker 1: you want to go to a quicker game, go to
- 47:22Speaker 1: a JV high school game. Man, the rest just put
- 47:25Speaker 1: the whistles away. Dude, just running up and down the court,
- 47:28Speaker 1: like you don't want to go. I'm I'm against I'm
- 47:33Speaker 1: against changing, changing clocks and changing times. I'm going to
- 47:37Speaker 1: a sporting event. I'm not trying to get out of there.
- 47:39Speaker 1: I want to watch it. I was kind of against
- 47:41Speaker 1: the pitch clock. I like it now, but I was
- 47:43Speaker 1: against it because I don't really care how long the
- 47:45Speaker 1: game is. I like the game that much.
- 47:48Speaker 2: You know what they call JV basketball football.
- 47:54Speaker 1: For real? It is unbelievable.
- 47:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it taught me a lot about life. I value
- 48:00Speaker 2: my my ear with JV when I was able to
- 48:03Speaker 2: commit fouls that then did not work. When you got
- 48:06Speaker 2: to varsity. They were like, sir, that's a foul. I'm like, well,
- 48:10Speaker 2: it wasn't about last year. They're like, welcome.
- 48:13Speaker 3: What I found.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Scott only only one year on JV. Some of some
- 48:18Speaker 1: of us had to play two years on JV. Todd didn't.
- 48:20Speaker 1: He scored a thousand points and that's all on varsity.
- 48:24Speaker 3: I played freshman, it was JV, and I probably had
- 48:28Speaker 3: like fifty points. In varsity that year. But ja, yeah,
- 48:30Speaker 3: I just read a little bit.
- 48:32Speaker 2: Just a little bit, no big deal. There's a letter
- 48:34Speaker 2: from Yukon recruiting him, telling them all the NBA players
- 48:37Speaker 2: that they recently had.
- 48:40Speaker 3: That was incredible.
- 48:42Speaker 2: Another that was freaking awesome. That's real too.
- 48:48Speaker 3: I coached my kids. I know what I'm I know
- 48:50Speaker 3: what I'm doing.
- 48:50Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hoop a little all right. Lastly on
- 48:52Speaker 2: that front, let's show todd Fathers Championship. Yes, belt Ish Championship.
- 48:59Speaker 3: Clack. I would score a plaque. It's a monster plaque.
- 49:02Speaker 3: It's really cool. Raised over forty eight thousand this year
- 49:05Speaker 3: for the Children's Specialized Hospital. It was a great showing.
- 49:08Speaker 3: We had sixty four teams. There was a buy back
- 49:11Speaker 3: tournament where our boys from foul Territory almost won it.
- 49:14Speaker 3: They made it to the semifinals, hoping for another good
- 49:18Speaker 3: one next year. It was a lot of fun. There's
- 49:20Speaker 3: too many thank you as I could do. But again,
- 49:22Speaker 3: raised over forty eight k for the children at the
- 49:25Speaker 3: Children's Specialized Hospital. So a lot of good money going
- 49:27Speaker 3: to a good going to good stuff.
- 49:29Speaker 2: Congrats. I know you put a ton of hustle into
- 49:31Speaker 2: all of that. No love it, and we left to
- 49:32Speaker 2: support it. And so make sure you keep an eye
- 49:34Speaker 2: on it for next year when Cratsey you're coming next year? Yeah, grats.
- 49:37Speaker 2: You gotta make a trip now my bed on bed.
- 49:42Speaker 1: Go make it BBW A and I'm there. Who was
- 49:44Speaker 1: your partner? Who? Who's that with you?
- 49:47Speaker 3: Oh? That was Mark Montenaro of Auto Land. He's he
- 49:50Speaker 3: paid for the biggest sponsor, So the biggest sponsor gets
- 49:52Speaker 3: to play with with me, so which is great. Mark
- 49:56Speaker 3: was on fuego bro, he was on fire.
- 50:00Speaker 2: Good for him, all right. Dodger's Territory coming up next
- 50:03Speaker 2: with Kyle Glazer and Clintesius Dodgers Padres talk