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Heritage and Tucker Carlson · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 1: The popcorn moment, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: It's a story you need to hear to believe.
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  Speaker 2: Then grab your popcorn because there is more. I am
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  Speaker 2: not surprised that would come back to me, not surprise
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  Speaker 2: in the slightest. Let's see this one. I can't, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I can't share it yet. I can't share it yet.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see if I get any luck. There was a
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  Speaker 2: statement made. I want to break this down because you
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  Speaker 2: might argue this is happening in you know, social media,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't part of real life. But rather I would
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  Speaker 2: say to you that when the president of the Heritage Foundation,
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  Speaker 2: makes a statement about cancel culture and engages a full
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  Speaker 2: throat of defense of Tucker Carlson, who recently had on
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  Speaker 2: his show Nick Foyntes. Nick Foyntes is an anti semit,
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  Speaker 2: He's a white supremacist. However you want to call him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how he would decide himself. He's just
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  Speaker 2: an American. Maybe I think he's just a caricature at times.
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  Speaker 2: But why would you platform that guy? That was the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, then Tucker got into a conversation about Christian
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  Speaker 2: Zionists and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Always back to this.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny. And on social media every was like, oh, Tony,
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  Speaker 2: you're always so talking about Israel.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, Tucker is always talking about Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Yet I'm told to give it a rest, and he's like, woo.
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  Speaker 1: Cheer him on. It's very it's it's very strange.
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  Speaker 2: And when I say it's very strange, it's strange that
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  Speaker 2: somehow people are gonna think that it's not gonna get noticed.
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  Speaker 2: That guy gets cheered on and I get told no,
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  Speaker 2: it's odd. But having Nick Foant on your show is
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  Speaker 2: about platforming.
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  Speaker 1: A bigot like this. Is is nuts.
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  Speaker 2: Is surreal. Why in the world, Why in the world
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  Speaker 2: would you do it?
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  Speaker 1: That's the question I want to.
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  Speaker 2: Share with you what it is that Kevin Roberts, the
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  Speaker 2: leader there of the Heritage Foundation said, want you to
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  Speaker 2: hear it for yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to be able to make your own
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  Speaker 1: mind up about it.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason that it matters is because the divide
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  Speaker 2: it is creating seems to be one of this is
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  Speaker 2: vile versus one of this is Christian, and that I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a very odd and upsetting place to be.
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  Speaker 2: So let me start with this. Is Kevin Roberts, he
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  Speaker 2: heads up the Heritage Foundation. This is what it is
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  Speaker 2: that he had to say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I apologize right there.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have more to say on this in the coming days,
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  Speaker 3: but today I want to be clear about one thing.
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  Speaker 3: Christians can critique the state of Israel without being anti Semitic,
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  Speaker 3: and of course anti Semitism should be condemned. My loyalty
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  Speaker 3: as a Christian and as an American is to Christ
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  Speaker 3: first and to America always. When it serves the interests
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  Speaker 3: to the United States to cooperate with Israel and other allies,
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  Speaker 3: we should do so with partnerships on security, intelligence, and technology.
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  Speaker 3: But when it doesn't, Conservatives should feel no obligation to
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  Speaker 3: reflexively support any foreign government, no matter how loud the
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  Speaker 3: pressure becomes from the globalist class or from their mouthpieces
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  Speaker 3: in Washington.
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  Speaker 1: It's at that moment I stop. He hasn't gotten into
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  Speaker 1: Tucker yet. Support of Israel is proof of being a globalist.
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  Speaker 2: The argument of you can disagree, well, yeah, of course,
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  Speaker 2: go right ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Does it make you an anti Semite? I'm telling you
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't. That's insane, It's insane.
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  Speaker 2: But what if I disagree with you now, Kevin Roberts,
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  Speaker 2: Am I now part of the globalist class?
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  Speaker 1: Am I anti Christian?
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  Speaker 2: Well? It seems to be part of what you're purporting here?
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  Speaker 2: And I think is where a lot of this division
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  Speaker 2: is coming from. This What in the world are you
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  Speaker 2: putting out there? Versus good for you for standing up
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  Speaker 2: for Christian values. A divide, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: The Heritage Foundation didn't become the intellectual backbone of the
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  Speaker 3: conservative movement by canceling our own people or policing the
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  Speaker 3: consciences of Christians. And we won't start doing that now.
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  Speaker 3: We don't take direction from comments on X. Though we
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  Speaker 3: are grateful for the robust free speech debate, we also
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  Speaker 3: don't take direction from members or donors. Though we are
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  Speaker 3: inherently grateful for that support.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure how accurate that is
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  Speaker 2: in that donors don't have any level of sway. I
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  Speaker 2: would hope that donors understand this is the organization we have,
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  Speaker 2: and this is the message we put out there, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you might disagree with parts of it, but if
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  Speaker 2: you agree with the overarching.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we ask your support. Hun I would hope
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  Speaker 1: that that's the case, and.
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  Speaker 3: We're adding more every day. This is the robust debate
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  Speaker 3: we invite with our colleagues, our movement, friends, our members,
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  Speaker 3: and the American public. We will always defend truth, we
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  Speaker 3: will always defend America, and we will always defend our
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  Speaker 3: friends against the slander of bad actors who serve someone
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  Speaker 3: else's agenda. That includes Tucker Carlson, who remains and as
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  Speaker 3: I have said before, always will be a close friend
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  Speaker 3: of the Heritage Foundation. I'm as coalition attacking him or
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  Speaker 3: sewing division, their attempt to cancel him will fail. Most importantly,
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  Speaker 3: the American people expect us to be focusing on our
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  Speaker 3: political adversaries on the left, not attacking our friends on
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  Speaker 3: the right.
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  Speaker 2: If I disagree with Tucker Carlson, it's a slander. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a globalist and I'm not focused on the right things.
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  Speaker 2: I reject the premise Kevin Roberts with everything in me.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I want you to apply
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  Speaker 2: that in any other place. If I disagree with Heritage, well,
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  Speaker 2: what if I disagree with libertarians like Cato, or what
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  Speaker 2: if I disagree anywhere? If I disagree with Tucker, What
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  Speaker 2: if I disagree with Dana Perino, or what if I
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  Speaker 2: disagree with Rob Finnerty over there at Newsmax.
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  Speaker 1: It's proof I'm part of the globalists.
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  Speaker 2: I can't note something that Tucker Carlson says or does.
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  Speaker 2: I can't note that he said Russia has great supermarkets,
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  Speaker 2: we should be more like them, and how radically ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: that is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a ridiculous thought.
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  Speaker 2: I can't notice that he platforms Nick Quente's and say
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  Speaker 2: that's wrong. It doesn't sound like a conversation of robust
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  Speaker 2: free speech when you then declare that by doing so,
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  Speaker 2: you're giving ammunition and energy to the left, and you're
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  Speaker 2: a globalist.
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  Speaker 3: I disagree with and even at poor things that Nick
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  Speaker 3: Flint has says, but canceling him is not the answer either.
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  Speaker 3: When we disagree with the person's thoughts and opinions, we
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  Speaker 3: challenge those ideas and debate. And we have seen success
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  Speaker 3: in this approach as we continue to dismantle the vile
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  Speaker 3: ideas of the left. As my friend Vice President Vance
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  Speaker 3: said last night, what I am not okay with is
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  Speaker 3: any country coming before the interest of American citizens, and
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  Speaker 3: it is important for all of us, assuming we are
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  Speaker 3: American citizens, to put the interest of our own country first.
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  Speaker 2: I believe we should put America first, absolutely I do,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not in favor of canceling Tucker Carlson.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a silly idea.
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  Speaker 2: But I think I can note without being called a
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  Speaker 2: globalist and without engaging some threat to Christianity that platforming
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  Speaker 2: Nick Foyntees is ugly.
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  Speaker 1: Because it is.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't make me a globalist, doesn't make me anti Christian.
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  Speaker 2: The statement from the Heritage Foundation is something else, and
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  Speaker 2: people surprised at the response of what's wrong with you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised at them. We'll discuss it more on Tony
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  Speaker 1: Katz today right now,